ANOTHER 70% OF PLAYER Cheated / Illegally OTKED by this Multi-Attack Ruling

[@TheoJay615]

The Draconids example was very good. > The condition to multi attack is to attack special summoned monsters only. > That means you can either use your one attack to hit over a normal summoned monster OR stay in the bounds of the effect and multi-attack all special summoned monsters. Gosh, we really need Master Duels to resolve all these goofy ruling lol. Then we can finally say: "It works like this in Master Duels"

[@Andy4995]

You're saying that like Master Duel will resolve all ruling problems once it's out lol

[@AntCommando]

@@Andy4995 it may not solve every problem, but can be properly programmed to eliminate some of these issues like with UCT attacking 4 scapegoat tokens for 4k dmg instead of a direct for 3500. As in the example the Scapegoat would properly block UCT and the attacking player only be able to destroy 1 of them. Not to mention since it will be a sim, certain PE infractions won't even be possible like link summoning a card without the proper monsters needed or activating traps that don't meet there trigger conditions or can't be used due to CL order.

[@Andy4995]

@@AntCommando Yes, I will give you that, but I heard it a lot lately that people think master duel will solve all our ruling problems or people expect it to do so, and that's just not true. There are times were even Konami fucks up the rulings, doesn't know how it should be ruled or rules it straight up wrong. Then there are TCG/OCG differences or even Regional differences that apply on a event by event case and I'm sorry, but I will believe Konami fixing all of this with that sim when I see it and not a second before that. PE Infractions are the most trivial ones here.

[@AntCommando]

@@Andy4995 trust me I don't expect it to be 100% perfect and the end all be all, they themselves will have to implement ruling changes and other things that work 1 way today and differently tomorrow, but, having an official digital simulator will stop certain interactions that otherwise shouldn't happen, like when tombox even says people say "this works like that on edopro" those levels of PE could be avoided IF Konami handles them properly in Master Duel. Was watching Revz from scratch series and he missed out on day 2 of EU YCS because of a bad judge ruling that he appealed after the round and even the head judge said, he was correct but, the damage had already been done.

[@darklaw7635]

@@Andy4995 yes it will.

[@potat8089]

The fact that the four sheep tokens are four copies of the blue one makes my blood boil like only Mystic Mine can

[@VinceOfAllTrades]

The UCT ruling is arbitrary and unintuitive and I don't necessarily think edopro is incorrect for doing it differently given that there is no official TCG ruling database. The best explanation I've seen in the comments is that UCT has an effect which attacks all monsters; by attacking directly, you're choosing not to use that effect. I think the difficulty here comes from many players (self-included) considering this effect to be a property of the attack recipient (monster) and not the intended target (player).

[@larronoeurn9973]

If the utc player choose to normal attack on its very 1st attack and it goes though, can he use effect to attack everything else ?

[@gpmradirgy8953]

The multi-attack ruling would probably have to come down to the judge call more than anything. The example with ceal is very specific to that situation whereas generally the Asura Priest Goat ruling is something Konami themselves has historically always allowed players to do in their own video games such as the world championship series of games. I don’t know how that interaction is ruled in legacy of the duelist but I know for a fact the world championship GBA games let Asura Priest attack all tokens. I’d class the ruling as “needs more info”, master duel will put it to bed but it really needs a clear ruling call before we can say for sure that cards like Asura Priest or UCT would not be able to attack more than once.

[@almisami]

I concur. Konami's own games have been allowing this since forever.

[@chrisgkini3180]

random tip u can pause the video while he is counting for more time u welcome

[@DirtCheapFU]

Had someone try that Amazement trap card 'thing'. "Did you just chain link a normal trap off of itself?".

[@MSTTV]

People have tried and argued.

[@february7438]

Ok but then on the card it should say "You can DECLARE attacks with this monster on all special summoned monsters your opponent controls" or something like that

[@almisami]

I agree. The wording on the cards doesn't match what it means in the OCG.

[@wolfman_3955]

Hey tombox I have a question relating to this, If player 1 has destiny hero plasma and masked hero dark law on field and the opponent has ultimate conductor tyranno, the UCT declares an attack on plasma destroying it by battle, since the effects of UCT were negated while plasma was on the field, would it be allowed to attack the dark law even though it used an attack outside it’s effect parameters (as they were negated by plasma) Just having discussing with friends about this

[@darkglass3011]

Huh. You learn something new everyday. Neat.

[@josephreis2915]

Question about the shurag ruling? Let’s say I have butler out already, and they summon shurag and go cl1 shurag cl2 butler, butler pops. Does shurag still get to banish? This ruling comes up literacy all the time so I’m really curious what the ruling is

[@Ian-nn7vg]

Only reason shuraig wouldn't be able to activate is if it's cl1 butler, cl2 revolt, revolt would resolve,then butler would pop shuraig preventing shuraig from activating. If shuraig is already activating and you chain butler to pop, shuraig has already activated and the effect will resolve accordingly as long as there is something to banish.

[@JABRIEL251]

Seriously, I have had so many people fight me on that Amaze Attraction ruling.

[@Killingmachine6]

I had the amazement trap thing come up where my op was trying to play too fast and was trying to bounce my zeus even though i chained zeus to the activation of the plunder attraction

[@TheNoseball87]

Ok but the ruling on the official database makes no sense. It literally says on the card that it can attack all monsters once each and the official RULEBOOK says nothing about not being allowed to consecutive attack after a redeclare. It doesn't make sense. It's just a "because we said so"

[@cephalosjr.1835]

It’s because it’s an OCG ruling, as evidenced by the Japanese.

[@TheNoseball87]

@@cephalosjr.1835 A "because we said so" yes.

[@penitentone6998]

@@TheNoseball87 and if they say so it goes

[@Jason-dh3el]

Found out about the amazement thing the hardway. Yeah the first part where you need to equip needs to resolve first. Then the second effect can be activated/resolved in a second chain. Thinking about unloading my amazement cards now after that lmao its too slow.

[@goobiehome3235]

Lolll I literally did the shuraig/Levianeer interaction with Tombox judging my table at the extravaganza. Literally took so long because I didn’t know how the interaction worked.

[@peoplesreed7042]

So can I special summon 2 iris off one monster on the field being negated? And if so if I can only use 1 effect can I use a different effect once while I control two different iris?

[@grant-leealie4981]

@Mst.tv Question regarding Swordsoul I understand it can only trigger once but what if two conditions are met at once, example my opponent pendulum summons one from hand and one from the extra deck can I trigger my swordsoul and use the and an extra deck affects?

[@treble0110]

you can only use 1 of the effects based on the summon, the card states "activate only 1 of these effects", so in the situation they pendulum from extra deck and hand, you have to choose which effect you want to apply based on the summons.

[@mysticmichaelgt7]

If my opponent has a Tri Brigade Shiraig on the field, he activate revolt to summon out to tribrigade monsters the link into Barren Blossom, can I activate Torrential Tribute before my opponent activates his Shuriag effect to banish one card when Blossom is summoned to the field?

[@PixelAero]

If TCG cards were worded like OCG cards then there wouldn't be any confusion regarding Swordsoul Iris, and probably many others.

[@AngelofDeath333]

Love it how some people can’t read simple card text

[@anthonynguyen133]

I remember asking the exact same question about Swordsoul Iris in Adjustification about a month ago and Jeff Jones answer my question.

[@TCGArsenal]

are the rulings above TCG or OCG rulings? because I know they can be quite different

[@Ian-nn7vg]

If there is no official TCG ruling handed down by Konami, we generally go with OCG rulings as long as it does not violate the general TCG mechanics that we know of - and those change depending on region lol

[@MUHZOMBEHS]

Does the 2020 revision apply to mandatory effects as well? Say, goblin zombie and gozuki are used for a link summon.. goblin chain link 1, gozuki chain link 2 banishes goblin as cost. Gozuki resolves to summon a zombie from hand.. then what? Does goblin zombie fizzle or still activate? Again, goblin zombie is mandatory.. if that even matters in this case. Been out of the game for like 7 years and just got back into it a few months ago lol.

[@MSTTV]

EDIT after reading this. Your monsters in this example would still activate.. coz they are activated already... You have already built the chainlinks. Goblin Zombie has to be chainlink 1 due to mandatory. In an example where say it is tributed for cost like mystic wok, and then it gets D.D. Crowed. in the case that they get removed in the previous chain before activation they will not activate.

[@chris9874]

In this case, Goblin and Gozuki have already successfully activated, so they will both resolve.

[@cephalosjr.1835]

Resolves in TCG, maybe not in OCG.

[@isaactuttle1529]

Hey tombox if I link summon masterking archfiend can I apply his effect to roll dice on any of the monsters used to link summon him?

[@Jhammer129]

Hey Tombox, With Swordsoul, if I successfully special summon her off of her first effect and I am then wanting to use her second effect. Is that second effect triggered on the next monster summoned by my opponent or can I wait for a summon form a specific place to activate it. For example: I summon Swordsoul and my opponent then links off, if I want to draw two can I wait until they summon from the deck or does her effect automatically activate once that link monster is summoned.

[@generalnoob30]

Swordsoul's second effect is optional, so you may choose when to activate her effect.

[@amprinzrak6912]

I have a question about Replay ruling. Yesterday I played YGO with my friend. He had on his side of the field "Chimeratech Overdragon" (summoned with six monsters) and "Chimeratech Rampage Dragon" with his multi-attack effect activated. On my side, I had only a "Metal Reflect Slime" set on the field. He attack with Rampage, I activated the Trap card MRS, then Replay goes on. Since his "C. Rampage Dragon" has 2100 ATK, he decided to attack my MRS with Overdragon. After Overdragon destroys my MRS, he attacked again with Rampage directly. Now, once you decided to change the monster for the attack you shouldn't be able to attack with the first one after even if it has generic multi-attack effect, am I right?

[@MSTTV]

Chimeratech Rampage dragon unlike the other multi attack monster, this one can attack directly multiple times and doesn't specify within it's effect that it can only hit monsters. It gains additional attacks per monster sent. So, even if it pulled back on the replay, it will still considered that it used one of its 3 attacks. Now it can still attack twice.

[@amprinzrak6912]

@@MSTTV thanks for the explanation, my friend too told the same. I was convinced that monsters which can attack multiple times had to do it in a row. That's why I was confused about that move

[@MVVibes-tr7hd]

very much appreciate a judge yugituber Thank you!!

[@power3160]

Something is wrong about that uct one .. I don't know what it is, but something is bugging me. The explanation makes sense, but I think there's more to it. How should one know that a direct attack = giving up on the multi-attack effect? finding out about that ruling, i now have millions of questions about that kind of interactions .. For example, what happens if the enemy does not destroy Ceal and the attack goes through, wouldn't it be the same situation? the mst is completely irrelevant for this interaction. Or what happens if you attacked all monsters with uct and then attack with another mon directly, opponent uses goats and you skip the direct attack. could the uct now attack normaly or not? he was not the one attacking directly, but has attacked multiple monsters before it. I think he can attack, but why? does only a direct attack deactivate such effects completely? Weird .. I mean, it makes sense but it should be much clearer why. You could presume that this ruling is also true for uct. But for me, this ruling is not really thought through. They should say it clear on the card that it matters what you attack first / last. On bls for example, they make clear what you have to do. If the ruling is this complex, that kind of writing should be standard for multi-attacks. Sorry for my english, i'm german ..

[@jadegrace1312]

Yeah I agree. There's really no reason to think that UCT can't attack monsters after attacking directly tbh, I mean the card literally says you can. I definitely get why you couldn't attack directly with UCT after attacking monsters, but the fact that you get to redeclare when they resolve scapegoat really makes me think that ruling wasn't well though out.

[@Andy4995]

For your questions: If the attack with Ceal goes through that's it, you attacked and you wouldn't be able to attack the monsters. Regarding the other one: No, UTC wouldn't be able to attack, because you already attacked with it and another monster too, more monsters appearing on the field doesn't change the outcome for it. If instead, your opponent would activate a scapegoat after you cleared his board with UCT and you didn't attack with anything else yet, then you would be able to continue, because your attack with that effect of UCT is technically not finished yet and you didn't interrupt it either, but as soon as you attack with something else first, that's it, UCT can't attack anymore. Also ask yourself this: If you would switch the situation, and there were 4 scapegoats on board from the beginning you would be able to attack everyone with UCT, so far so good. Are you then able to attack directly too after you cleared the board? No, you can't. I hope we agree on that so far. So why would you be able to do it differently, if the situation is switched like in the video (first directly, then all of the monsters)? You are just choosing your new attack target after already declaring an attack, you aren't redeclaring. So it makes perfect sense, that if you wanted to attack directly first and suddenly your opponent has some monsters, that the direct attack moves to one of those monsters and that's it. It might not be well thought through, but that's always like that with Yugioh. Rulings aren't consistent and/or clear. We don't have a Database, like the OCG does and every new set of cards with something unique is a new ruling nightmare, especially when we get one of those "because Konami said so" situations. That's Yugioh for you.

[@power3160]

@@Andy4995 Thank you for the reply. Yeah, the thing with the direct attack is understandable and also confusing, okay. But thats not what i can't understand. In my scenario, i'm not convinced that he could not attack the new tokens if he is not the one attacking directly, even if he attacked before. If uct destroys a giant rat by battle, the rat specials a new monster. with your logic, he should not be able to attack the new summoned monster, because it was not on the field when he first attacked. I don't think this is how it works. I think he can attack the new summoned monster. Even if another Monster attacks next, and he after that the new summoned monster. I hope you understand now what my problem is. When does he lose his ability to attack, if he doesn't attack direcly.. If you attack with another monster? If the enemy randomly activates scapegoat? Or just when Konami says no.. If you have 3 monsters, all can atack only one time, easy. One after another attacks, all regular rules apply. But now the first Monster has the effect to attack multiple times and you attack just once, then attack with the rest. After that, the first monster still had only attacked once, but because you attacked with another monster it will lose it's timing to attack? I never heard of a Rule like that, and that is weird. There are so many monsters that can attack multiple times. Are the rules different for cards like cyber twin dragon? I remember to always using it's first attack to destroy the strongest monster first and later after the attacks of my others, i attacked for game.. Am I wrong for 15 years? This one Ruling fries my brain..

[@Andy4995]

@@power3160 I understand where your confusion lies, I have to admit, I'm not a ruling guru and sometimes can't defend the logic behind some of them so I don't want to seem as It would all be so logical and easy to understand because it's not. But, in that case UCT really can't attack after you attacked with something else, even though new monsters appear, you already had your turn with UCT and new monsters appearing doesn't change that fact. The Giant Rat example works, because, how I already stated, as long you don't interrupt your attack with UCT, you still can go on. With "interrupting" I mean stuff like, attacking with another monster, after already attacking with UCT or attacking directly and then having to rechoose (important: choosing, not declaring) your attack target, stuff like that explained in the video. Like I said it's not flawless by any means, but that's how it's ruled and how it works in this game.

[@chowda3775]

@@power3160 it's because a replay isn't considered attack declaration. You chose to declare a direct attack which means you can't then declare an attack on monsters. "Can attack all monsters your opponent controls" implies you can't declare a direct attack if you do this, since it still uses your regular attack declaration with UCT

[@wowzer7727]

Question what about crusadia revival with equimax? It’s a lingering effect that you activate in the main phase

[@elijahtorres9699]

I'd assume you'd be able to punch over all of them since it's not an effect that happens during the battle phase

[@elijahtorres9699]

Though if it's a direct attack, the answer would be no, it can only able attack once I believe

[@Redstribbyboi]

The ruling about things staying whete they are in order to activate (Shuraig vs Levianeer), isnt that only a US ruling or do we, in the EU, follow that as well?

[@FromTheSky0]

Probably a nooby question but I don't know lol - about the amazement trap (since I may soon build the deck). With the second effect of flipping opponent's monster face down, can I only use it on my turn since I have to activate it after resolution? Or can it still be activated on my opponent's turn in a separate chain link?

[@power3160]

You can use it in your opponent's turn, because it is a Trap. Just do it after the resolution^^

[@FromTheSky0]

@@power3160 Thanks!

[@lorenzobarbano]

Wait a minute...I activated the effect of Crusadia revival on Crusadia Equimax (so that it can attack every monster once each). Opponent has only shizuku. Equimax kills shizuku, raye is summoned from the GY, can Equimax attack it?

[@MSTTV]

U are still attacking monsters so yes., But if u declared a direct attack, then no.

[@tylerfortenberry2349]

How does Boarbow work? If you declare an attack on a monster, but a redeclare happens, can you attack directly?

[@MSTTV]

U can reselect a direct target if needed. It just says u can attack directly.

[@wraith327]

So I'm guessing (invoked purgatrio/ Cameratech) would fall under the rules as uct.

[@ketsura3618]

So the correct about the Amazement traps is activate the book effect for example at resolution?

[@christophertomes6777]

I have a follow up on conductor ruling. If my opponent controls uct. And I have no monsters on field. Uct declares a direct attack, and I chain dark spirit of malice targeting unchained soul of disaster to redirect the attack. Will the conductor be permitted to declare an additional attack that battle phase if I trigger disasters ef?

[@redx4361]

Pretty sure you cannot due to his explanation. When Tyranno attacks the first time, that’s the range of the effect parameter.

[@jadegrace1312]

@@redx4361 The explanation really doesn't make sense for UCT to be honest.

[@driptcg]

Question related to second ruling: i fusion summon shaddoll construct using EVA as material. In a new chain i have two triggers, eva and construct. If i make eva CL1 banishinh construct as cost, could construct be CL2?

[@MSTTV]

To stay consistent where activation must occur in the location it triggered, No, construct was removed before the activation, I am willing to be challenged on this one.

[@driptcg]

@@MSTTV i see, thanks!

[@guitaralex0515]

So let's say with sword soul you opponent specials from extra deck you trigger the effect. It resolves. Then you opponent specials from Hand can you trigger her effect again in a new chain but using the hand effect since it says you can use its each effect once per turn? Or is the entirety of the effect only once per turn then?

[@macroscopics]

Effects, generally speaking, have 1 unique condition-cost-effect combination. Iris Swordsoul's second effect has a unique effect, but has a common activation condition and cost. Since the condition is shared, you can only use that effect of Swordsoul 1 time per turn, regardless of if it would trigger multiple times that turn for different scenarios, such as your example where it would trigger in both scenarios (if it were not a Hard Once Per Turn effect). To put it a bit more simply, Hard Once Per Turn clauses mainly apply to the condition. If you activate an effect because the condition was met, you will not be able to activate that effect again based on that condition being triggered for the rest of the turn. For Iris Swordsoul, if you activate its effect because a monster was Special Summoned from the ED, then that's its only application for that turn, because regardless of where the next monster is Special Summoned from, a monster was still Special Summoned and that's all Iris's condition cares about. If anything here is confusing, don't hesitate to say so, I'm doing my best in explaining it.

[@Ian-nn7vg]

@@macroscopics I'm not 100% sure that's correct - because specifically, Iris Swordsoul "You can activate one of these EFFECTS". You could argue that because it says effects, that each effect is considered a separate effect based upon where it was summoned. I'm not 100% sure of that, but the wording is not very clear either.

[@macroscopics]

@@Ian-nn7vg Okay, here's a better example. Pot of the Forbidden has a similar structure, where the condition is the same but has multiple effects, yet it says "You can only use THIS effect of "Pot of the Forbidden" once per turn.". Here it treats the whole effect as 1effect, even though there are multiple effects. That'd the best example that's closest to Iris that I can think of off the top of my head.

[@theblite32]

The April 2020 revision was for TCG also? I thought it was ocg only as of now.

[@MSTTV]

TCG NA was always like this since Duelist alliance..

[@jadegrace1312]

@@MSTTV But wasn't the ruling taken from an OCG rulings database?

[@federicodc]

After what happened at the eu ycs we can assume that the April 2020 ruling changes will apply to the TCG as well.

[@o_anthropos]

I have a question guys, let's say i have abc Buster as my only monster on the field. My opponent attacks with uct and i activate my Buster dragon's effect to bring back my a, b and c. Is my opponent then allowed to attack all my monsters or just one of them?

[@neozagga]

It can attack all the lv4 unions. Because UCT declared attack on ABC first, a monster, not direct attack, which is the key point on its ruling vs scapegoat

[@o_anthropos]

@@neozagga thanks i have another question though. Let's say i have union hanger on the field and i summon one of the abc monsters. Then i can activate my unions hanger effect to equip it with another union monster from the deck. If my opponent ghost ogres my hanger does the effect still go through or not? Also ghost ogre on ygo pro can negate/ basically destroy my union driver special summon from the spell and trap zone but can't stop my banish effect. Is this also correct or not?

[@alphaspursncowboys]

I don’t like the UCT scape goat ruling because the only reason the effect is negated is because there weren’t any valid targets till after the effect would’ve been activated.

[@dragonmasterlance4010]

So on the Levianeer Vs. Revolt Ruling, does Shuraig miss timing even though its an "IF" effect?

[@sonnyjins8621]

yes, omen must be on the field at the time when you could activate its effect

[@darklaw7635]

What UCT destroys a monster by battle that floats?? It can only attack once ?

[@MSTTV]

If UCT declares an attacked directly (it is considered to have attempted to attack outside of it's effect therefore cannot use the effect to swing at every monster.) If construction signal red was activated to redirect it's attack towards itself from another monster. neither monster can be attacked again since both were considered to be attacked already.

[@dreamybull1509]

Horror house losses to ghost ogre GHOST OGRE META LETSSSS GOOOOOO

[@goobiehome3235]

Gamma plus ghost ogre is pretty solid against tribrigade and drytron. Removing bodies so they can’t link/ritual hurts a lot

[@aaronburroughs1442]

Seems like a terrible ruling............ its a continuous effect, and nothing but this specific ruling is stopping it. I get if there was a battle phase step issue.... but this doesn't even reach the damage step, and shuts off the continuous effect. Weird.

[@jonbozaDa-real]

I honestly believe he is wrong, with uct

[@Big1nz]

I honestly don't understand why anyone would rule this card this way. Also if this is an ocg ruling does it even matter?

[@MSTTV]

@@Big1nz According to replay rules: When you declared a direct attack, and you get a replay you are not redeclaring an attack (IE When Linkuriboh is chained to an attack declaration, Linkuriboh is NOT allowed to activate upon being reselected as an attack target) You are reselecting the attack target. Since a direct attack was declared and direct attacks are NOT within the effect of the attack based effect, you are no longer use the effect, because if you did i would mean u got a 2nd attack declaration. You can declare an attack attack within the atk effect or use your regular attack. This ruling technically isn't even OCG only. Its how battle phase replays work. POST 2006: (aka doesn't apply to goats) "Prior to May 2006 in the TCG, if a replay occurred and a new attack target was not selected immediately, the monster that attacked could still declare an attack at another point during that Battle Phase. This is no longer the case, so if a new attack target is not selected during a replay, the monster that attacked cannot attack for the rest of that Battle Phase."

[@Big1nz]

@@MSTTV your a God Tom thank you! I'm indeed a dumb dumb at this kind of stuff.

[@angeles0542]

Thank you for this video.

[@SSJFutureGohan62093]

Hi Tombox, is there anyway besides social media that I could get in touch with you? I am interested in selling my Yu-Gi-Oh! collection off, and wanted to see if you’d be interested in buying it.

[@PokemonMasterJayson]

I believe you are incorrect about the ultimate conductor tyrrano, if that were the case, you wouldn't be able to re-declare an attack at all. What are your sources?

[@MSTTV]

its in the description

[@MSTTV]

TRANSLATED: db.ygorganization.com/qa#16016:en THE ORIGINAL: www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/card_search.action?ope=2&cid=11883&request_locale=ja (click the QandA)

[@PokemonMasterJayson]

@@MSTTV second link just takes me to the tcg database.

[@MSTTV]

You are technically not redeclaring attack when you are doing a replay: According to replay rules: When you declared a direct attack, and you get a replay you are not redeclaring an attack (IE When Linkuriboh to summon itself out from the GY is in response to an attack declaration, Linkuriboh is NOT allowed to activate upon being reselected as an attack target) You are reselecting the attack target not redeclaring. You can reselect the attack target u are NOT re-declaring the attack.

[@MSTTV]

@@PokemonMasterJayson www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/card_search.action?ope=2&cid=11883&request_locale=ja Try this one

[@kakash1767]

How does it work with uct? Because uct says it can attack all monster doesn't specify special or not.

[@chowda3775]

But it can't direct attack if it attacked monsters, so if it declared a direct attack , even if it got blocked, it gave up it's multi attack.

[@kakash1767]

@@chowda3775 so it wouldn't be able to attack cause it attempted to attack?

[@chowda3775]

@@kakash1767 basically when it attacked directly it chose to use its regular attack instead of its special kill everything attack. Just because it got blocked doesn't change that choice

[@kakash1767]

@@chowda3775 ok that makes sense thanks for clearing that up.

[@chowda3775]

@@kakash1767 glad I could help

[@cheaterxl243]

I find it bad if people resort to simulators to explain rulings. Thanks for giving us info on these rulings.

[@alicepbg2042]

I don't see how using a simulator would be bad. The only issue is when the simulator is wrong

[@ferelpuma]

Is Iris Swordsoul's second effect able to be activated on my opponents turn. I know it doesn't say "Quick Effect", but the wording suggests that it can be triggered any time you meet the condition.

[@MSTTV]

Its a trigger effect. so yes.

[@ferelpuma]

@@MSTTV Thanks, 👑

[@chuggajr]

I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision. I’ve elected to ignore it.

[@Koaki913]

Almost all of the ruling would he ruled wrong at my regionals by every single judge

[@markfields5988]

Do u do custom deck boxes?

[@MSTTV]

Not yet ;)

[@EdgarRodriguez-nu6ui]

So if the horror house resolved then i can used the eff of the horror house to book opp monster?

[@EdgarRodriguez-nu6ui]

Or i have to wait for the opp to take an action in order to use the horror house again?

[@sirernest546]

@@EdgarRodriguez-nu6ui after the equip effect has resolved, you can activate the second effect. You don't have to wait for your opponent.

[@MSTTV]

You will need to activate it again.

[@MSTTV]

you can activate it again on RESOLution

[@KuisineMS]

EdoPro is law, Konami rulings secondary 🤷

[@wisdom3416]

So can Amazement Comica equip Horror House to dragoon? It doesn’t target

[@juvenileygo]

I think you can, it's worded that way to bypass targeting (both comica and the trap book of moon effect)

[@abyssyahoo151]

@@juvenileygo no because equip has been implied to be the same thing as targeting apparently so no you cannot equip horror house to Dragoon

[@ketsura3618]

@@abyssyahoo151 thats when u activating the card, after the card resolved, u can change to her.

[@theancestor9345]

Does this Multi-Attack Ruling applies to Invoked Purgatrio, too?

[@BlueEyesLX]

Sure.

[@MSTTV]

Yes

[@saiyan_evox6442]

Can Vanity’s Ruler stop Drytron summoning?

[@dragonmasterlance4010]

Okay Im gonna assume you mean summoning, and are you serious?

[@saiyan_evox6442]

@@dragonmasterlance4010 Thanks, just fixed the spelling.

[@DisciplesOfEmpen]

This is great.

[@kevinbrightmon9918]

Goat

[@joeflores4841]

Hey Tombox, I wanted to learn the rulings and how chain links work so I could eventually be a judge but I'm not sure where to start or where I can learn in depth. Any tips?

[@MSTTV]

Learn fast effect timing and. PSCT, read those articles u can Google it.

[@february7438]

That last ruling is very non-intuitive even Tombox called them "multiple effects" while explaining. It should say " ... : You can activate this effect; effect1 OR effect2 OR effect3." to make it clear that it is just one effect. The way it is right now the card very clearly states something that is not the ruling.

[@rez3r092]

Nah. People just fail to comprehend the text. We have other cards with bullet points. You do not see people special summoning magicians' souls and special summoning dark magician in the same turn, for example.

[@Simon_Rutten]

Does the tri brigade get to resolve in the EU since the ruling here is different?

[@Andy4995]

No, EU has no different rulings. People should stop thinking that. EU does apply the April 2020 revisions and even the Remote YCS a while back used those revisions, so the tri-brigade ruling behaves exactly the same as stated in the video.

[@Simon_Rutten]

@@Andy4995 so in EU using d.d crow on benten would make it so benten cannot resolve?

[@ALatinoMeatball]

@@Simon_Rutten if benten activate in graveyard and you chain d.d.crow: benten resolve If benten got tribute for a cost and you activate d.d.crow: benten negated

[@Simon_Rutten]

@@ALatinoMeatball ok thank you ^^

[@ALatinoMeatball]

@@Simon_Rutten so example, if your opponent activate a ritual spell card to tribute benten to ritual summon a ritual monster. On the summon of the ritual monster you can activate d.d. crow. You can banish benten before it activates. In the scenario where the ritual monster has a trigger effect on summon, then your opponent can chain block by : CL1 benten CL2 ritual monster D.d.crow would be useless, benten already activated as CL1

[@PiantaBroker]

Master duel cannot come any faster to resolve these rulings

[@ryuhayabusa6651]

The iris part kinda doesnt make sense. I mean tombox's explanation makes sense, but i doesnt make any sense why that sentence would be written in the text then.

[@TSPiano]

Its written there since the first effect and second effect is a hard once per turn. If it wasn't there, you can SS out as many copies of Iris and activate its effect every time.

[@ryuhayabusa6651]

@@TSPiano aah yes now it makes sense ! Ty

[@darrenbarlow2354]

All the tokens

[@dariomontali8822]

That tiranno thing 😍

[@braydenmason7455]

a comparison that people use for this tbe true Draco traps but the true Draco traps are continuous

[@epiilogue2055]

Thought Swordsoul was straight up. If it was the other way would make it extremely broken and much higher in price then $25. LOL. Also who ever played Revolt before Chaos Dragon started picking cards needs to think about that. LOL Also I have lost many times to the Ulti Tranno cheat. Thought something was wrong with that.

[@MSTTV]

It's just some people live in the past and no one bothered to correct them. It took 2 or 3 appeals before I learned this.

[@Redstribbyboi]

"... Started picking cards" ? Could you elaborate?

[@DinoSimp95]

Have you read uct?

[@MSTTV]

I've read UCT, Tyrant Burst Dragon, Utopia Equipped with Asura Strike vs Construction Signal Red + Another Monster. db.ygorganization.com/qa#16016 and db.ygorganization.com/qa#10214 are adjacent.

[@almisami]

The thing is that the ruling *is stupid*. I understand why the ruling exists, but it's a stupid ruling based on how ''replays'' work.

[@gooseneckgaming]

UCT ruling still makes no sense

[@Emporkommling]

Like a lot of rulings, the reasoning behind it is “because Konami says so.”

[@danielcarcamo6336]

I knew the answer was 1. This happen 2 me a couple days go same exact scenario but my opponent went on to reddit to call upon a live line support and every one on there said that UCT can attack all of them. I'm like how I'm chaining during the battle scapegoat. You can only attack 1 this shit was common sence to me. But seen all the responses he got quickly in about 5m was to me mind-blowing ultimately I lost. But I'm glad to know information. Thank you.

[@danielrogers7098]

In Lithium's cross ban list, there was an incorrect ruling related to cyber jar and thunder king rai-oh since the most recent text of cyber jar states that the add and summoning occur at the same time as shown by the word and

[@roarbahamut9866]

That first ruling is so weird tho. Cauz you have to redeclare and can choose to actually not attack at all. This just shows one of the biggest mistakes of ygo. VERY minute rulings in very specific scenarios xD

[@power3160]

Mhm, i wonder what's happening if you choose not to attack again? If this ruling is right, could'nt you attack the new summoned monsters normaly? Or does the "declaration of the direkt attack" status linger for the rest of the battlephase? Wow, and i thought "missing the timing" is confusing..

[@Ian-nn7vg]

personally, I don't think that's a mistake of yugioh, i think it's one if its charms. you need to be very knowledgeable to play optimally

[@lortsilk6416]

Another ruling that doesnt really make sense to me xD

[@RondoceanMan]

Question on iris soulsword. Wouldnt all 3 effects be separate effects since the text states you can "activate" one of these effects and not "apply" or "use" one of these effects. There also colon symbols after each special summon location as well which makes look like they activate separately. It looks like from the text that if your "opponent special summons a monster" is the trigger requirement for all 3 effects which if spelled out, wouldnt fit on the card. Just my thoughts and was hoping you'd clarify. Thanks and great vid as always!

[@DJKisikil]

The second effect lets you activate one of 3 effects when an opponent's monster is Special Summoned, based on where it was Summoned from. Because the 3 effects are written after "You can activate ONE of these effects", it means you can only activate 1 based on how many times you can use that "You can activate one of these effects" per turn, which, in the case of The Iris Swordsoul, is a hard once per turn.

[@RondoceanMan]

@@DJKisikil Iris soul sword doesnt have an "only activate 1 per turn" restriction. It's "use each effect one per turn". So my question is what is causing the effects to be lumped as one effect. I understand the card text. What I am saying is going off the card text it suggests that each effect is separate. If you "use" the effect to destroy a special summoned monster, you havent "used" the effect to draw 2 cards if that makes sense. Thank you for replying and trying to clarify by the way!

[@DJKisikil]

@@RondoceanMan What is lumping the effects together is "You can activate ONE of these effects based on where the monster was Summoned from;", which implies a list of possible effects for you to activate with the same effect.

[@Andy4995]

@@RondoceanMan Those are 2 effects in total, like shown in the video. Just because you have some bullet points on 1 effect which gives you different options based on different conditions, doesn't mean the "You can use each effect of insert name here once per turn" at the end applies to ALL bullet points. That card has 2 effects, not 4, that's where the confusion comes from I guess. Take for example Pot of the Forbidden one (yes, I don't have a more well known option for now) It triggers on Flip and that's it's condition (here Iris would have the condition as the opponent specialed a monster and the exact location from where it came from) you can choose then which one to activate (on Iris you don't have that option, because it automatically activates the one that corresponds with the special summon location) and at the end it has the same text that it can only use that effect opt (like Iris). So question: would you be allowed to activate Pot again, if you had the possibilty to reset it and flip it again? Ofc not, the hopt clause at the end prevents you from doing so, and in the case of Iris it's no different.

[@RondoceanMan]

@@Andy4995 thank you, your pot of the forbidden example was perfect as I was looking for a card with similar wording and text style. Thank you!

[@darklaw7635]

UCT ruling doesn't make sense and the logic is completely wrong

[@MSTTV]

It just requires a deeper understanding of attack Attack declaration and replays. Considering when a replay occurs you are not declaring an attack. (That is established aka Linkuriboh summoning from Gy in response to an attack declaration) In parallel Construction signal red chained to a multi attacking monster declaring an attack on a monster causing an attack to redirect onto it. You can neither attack the previously targeted monster AND NOT hit the signal red. BOTH were considered to have been attacked in that case. There is also a database entry for this too. If you declared an attack outside of your effects, then it turns off the ability to even use it at all.

[@DinoSimp95]

What tf are you talking about 🤣🤣🤣

[@DivinePower626]

All of them

[@DivinePower626]

Further answered I was wrong

[@jonbozaDa-real]

Try it out in link evolution.

[@UnHoLyHooLiGaN]

comment

[@zephenred]

notification SQUADDD XDDDD

[@EMPCraft]

I don't get how people can be so stpd. I mean just read the amazement cards. I played them like this since the first day they were out and don't get how people can play so simple stuff wrong.

[@MSTTV]

some think their cards are better than they are.

[@gerardhill6163]

These ruling videos are really informative, of course. However, I would appreciate it if you could stop using equivocating terms such as "kind of" when speaking about something that should be stated as an absolute, especially from a judge like yourself.

[@totalpartykill999]

alot of Yugioh players still somehow think that the chain works like the MTG stack. the Yugioh chain is completely different from that.

[@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt]

But the UTC thing and the ceal aren't exactly the same though. It isn't an innate effect so it shouldn't be the same should it?