Another Crazy General Motors (GM) Idea: The "Cheap" Cadillac / Cadillac Calais for 1975

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@errorsofmodernism7331
@errorsofmodernism7331 10 ай бұрын
I like the absence of a cheesy vinyl top. I wish they brought back fabric interiors like this.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 10 ай бұрын
One nice thing the Calais had was there was no rocker panel trim, so no holes drilled to mount it and one less rust trap.
@dave1956
@dave1956 10 ай бұрын
The only problem was, when there was no lower body trim the paint would get sandblasted by the front tires. I had a coworker who owned a ‘73 Calais coupe and it ended up a total rust bucket by the time it was 5 years old. Wisconsin is not kind to steel!
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 ай бұрын
Southern states are much easier for those cars.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 10 ай бұрын
The worst thing about those rocker moldings was that the plastic clips that held them were key-holed on rivets, and it was only a matter of time before the temperature cycles cracked the paint seal around the rivets. Modern clips, with the plastic pegs that snap into holes seem to avoid that problem.
@AK-lw2jw
@AK-lw2jw 10 ай бұрын
A lack of a standard vinyl top was also a blessing in disguise. All the 71-76 caddies start weeping rust along the beltline trim that lines the bottom of the vinyl. Even my 76 coupe; which was fully repainted and given a new top by the previous owner eight years ago now also has two little bubbles beginning to form. I plan to have a friend weld up the trim holes and convert it to a slick top.
@fleetwin1
@fleetwin1 10 ай бұрын
No vinyl roof as well, big ol rust trap!
@michaelpennington7800
@michaelpennington7800 10 ай бұрын
My 1965 Calais Coupe has Power steering, brakes, windows, antenna, front seat, Twilight Sentinel, Cruise Control, Climate Control, Tilt and Telescopic Steering Wheel, Tinted Windows, Radio Station Seeking, Auto Dimmer Switch, Auto Trunk Release and Closing mechanism. It had all options except power vent Windows, door locks and FM Radio. Buyers could order any option available on the Coupe deVille.
@davidwatt7663
@davidwatt7663 10 ай бұрын
The Seat fabric would match the owner’s LOUD Golf Trousers 😂😂
@tholmes2169
@tholmes2169 10 ай бұрын
I can envision a less rich Rodney Dangerfield exiting the car in Caddyshack.
@ScottHughes-n4u
@ScottHughes-n4u 5 ай бұрын
Polyester golf pants. It was the '70s. What were they thinking!
@92nbush
@92nbush 10 ай бұрын
My grandpa worked for fisher body in the late 60s and early 70s he loved working on cadillacs. He went through the differences in models and trim levels to me as a young teen and told me a story about when calais came out they were meant for a niche market, mainly hot climates that didn't want leather wrapped everything because of hot summers and bare roofs because the sun would dry out and destroy vinyl tops in a few years. Since gm didn't want to downgrade the base of the Deville series they came up with a new model and priced it lower because the money they saved. But unfortunately the rest of the country saw it as a cheapened or low class cadillac or a cadillac for someone that didn't really have cadillac money. As time went on they started to really cheapen them because the other higher models playing with using cloth inserts and eventually more expensive cloth fabrics so it became the cheap cadillac and that destroyed its reputation in the publics eyes.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
The airport livery cab service I worked for in Denver used a number of Calais. They were a certainly an upgrade from a Checker taxicab that business customers appreciated. I agree, the cars looked much better without vinyl tops.
@glen7201
@glen7201 10 ай бұрын
I grew up with many Caddilacs in the driveway, the first being a 66 that my brother bought used. Then my mother started driving them starting in 1981, she bought her first new Sedan Deville . I remember it was delivered to our store at the time,she was not there so I received it,so of course 17 year old me had to road test it and make sure it was okay before she got it. I still remember the discust of my father when he saw the "tar" all over the right rear 1/4 panel,little did he know it was rubber,(brake torque, hey I was 17) But that car had numerous issues and I remember someone from the dealer came and picked it up one time for warranty work,he left a new Cimarron as a loaner,my mother wouldn't even get in that car,she loved her land yachts as she always had either Chrysler, Cadillac, or Lincoln products. And all her cars had the vinyl tops and chrome stuck to every possible part of the car. The last new one my dad bought was an 02 and he immediately sent it out for the padded top and wide chrome wheel arch moldings,it also had the wide chrome stick on lower door trim,and let's not forget the tacky gold emblems on every panel. On a sunny day, that thing was a hazard to all other drivers,I believe it could have been seen from outer space.
@CH67guy1
@CH67guy1 10 ай бұрын
Sorry, but to me the bright wheel arch trim and stick on bright lower door trim absolutely ruined these cars in my eyes. As did the dealer installed fake convertible tops on cars that were not designed for anything other than a painted steel roof. And my biggest pet peeve with the fake convertible tops was that little strip of cloth and the 5” long bright trim on the FUEL DOOR. Did some of them even have snaps, as if the simulated convertible top might also have an imaginary convertible top boot in the trunk?
@glen7201
@glen7201 10 ай бұрын
@CH67guy1 Yes I agree,and my dad's 02 had the fake snaps on it as well.
@CH67guy1
@CH67guy1 10 ай бұрын
@@glen7201 Some people like the added bling, and that’s fine. The dealer makes a huge profit on these dealer installed accessories. To me, I just can’t fathom drilling a new Cadillac full of holes to attach the chrome trim for that fake convertible top.
@emmexfyv
@emmexfyv 2 ай бұрын
LOL to this day I have a 96 Acura RL (the big one) that has gold emblems 'complimenting' the dark green metallic paint. I recall back then 75% of the green Camrys had gold trim. I hear my mother in law had one with it but they only drive Outbacks since I've known them.
@JCWiley2300
@JCWiley2300 10 ай бұрын
Pleased to see that Volvo is introducing some luxury wool felt textiles in its new vehicle interiors. High-end fabric upholstery is LONG overdue for a comeback.
@chrisinsd4590
@chrisinsd4590 10 ай бұрын
Yep…I just ordered Room and Board sofa with what looks to be Morgan Plaid resurrected…
@douglasrizzo9210
@douglasrizzo9210 10 ай бұрын
Calais are prized among collectors for the clean design. Rarest of the rare, is a fully optioned Calais. Morgan plaid was in 75 AND 76.
@ethelryan257
@ethelryan257 10 ай бұрын
This was interesting. I always had the feeling that Cadillac was whistling past the graveyard in the 1970's with all their 'young at heart' advertising. My parents drove Cadillacs, yes, but my dad was frequently complain that his Buicks - the work car - had much better trim and fit and just felt like they were put together by someone who cared about their work. It didn't help that they actually did find a chewing tobacco can in one of the rear doors of the '74 Sedan deVille my mom bought brand new..... The Calais never came into question for my parents. They paid cash, they bought the Cadillac which told them they had earned it. The Calais would have been like having a backyard swimming pool but not heating the water to save money.
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 10 ай бұрын
The 71 and 72 Cads, and all the GM cars for that matter, were a serious let-down. They leaked, the Cad had poor fit and finish, the Pontiac had a plain interior that looked like something an elderly unmarried librarian would like, there were recalls galore. The 73s seemed to be an improvement, if somewhat like the little girl with the curl - either very very good, or horrid.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Ай бұрын
In the 70s, there were still some senior citizens who didn't trust power windows, power seats, and power door locks, some didn't even want AC. It wasn't so much a question of money, it was because they wanted total reliability, and wouldn't have put up with troubles when their old 1940 Chevy, which was their second car, was still totally reliable.
@jw77019
@jw77019 10 ай бұрын
We had a 1965 Calais. It had 2 front seat belts with a retractor, no seat belts in the back and no cigarette lighters in the back. The pedals had no chrome. Other than that it was very much like a de Ville. I took it up to 115 mph once. The interior was at least as nice as a Buick.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
Our livery cab service had several Calais and we employees always joked that there was "no cigarette lighter in the back seat for the kiddies."
@marko7843
@marko7843 10 ай бұрын
Me too, guys... The two things I remember from the '67 brochure was manual wing windows and only ONE cigar lighter !?! 😆
@carsyoungtimerfreak1149
@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 10 ай бұрын
Awesome interiors! So much more likeable than the 50 shades of grey (I include black as a very, very dark grey 🙂) that is the norm these days! Thank you.
@MG-sj1em
@MG-sj1em 10 ай бұрын
My 2nd Cadillac was a 1967 4 door silver Calais. The seats were cloth, the wing windows were manual the hubcaps were plan. It had some other low priced things. I really loved it.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
The 1967 Cadillac line was really beautiful that model year. Always looked like they were in motion.
@jaydlytning
@jaydlytning 10 ай бұрын
​@@billolsen4360I was spoiled by having a 67 Coupe DeVille as my first car. That flying wedge front looked like it was going 90 all the time! What a bold design.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
@@jaydlytning Indeed! I can still remember Nixon visiting Buckingham palace, rolling in there in a black 67 or 68 Series 75 limo...it looked like a spaceship next to all the palace employees' Austin & Sunbeam sedans.
@CH67guy1
@CH67guy1 10 ай бұрын
My 1970 VW Bug had manual wing windows and plain hubcaps too!
@hynestimothy411
@hynestimothy411 10 ай бұрын
My Dad had a 1966 Calais It was quite opulant, had every power option, the only giveaway was the clothe seats and no vinyl top It was a great car
@smartysmarty1714
@smartysmarty1714 10 ай бұрын
When I was 11 years old, my dad bought a '74 Coupe De Ville, new. It was on the showroom floor. I clearly remember the consensus of the conversation he had with the salesman. It went something like this, from the salesman's perspective: "Well, if you buy the Calais, you're still a Cadillac owner, but you're more of the loser type Cadillac owner than if you buy an upgrade and everyone will always consider you to be nothing more than a loser Cadillac owner", LOL. Those of course are my words, but that was the message he was trying to convey so well that even my 11 year old self understood what he meant.
@nycstarport8542
@nycstarport8542 10 ай бұрын
Yes, l can see a '70s car salesman saying that. 🤣🤣🤣
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 10 ай бұрын
Wow. It’s lucky the salesmen did not drown when he walked outside in the rain! So much like a domestic Turkey.
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 10 ай бұрын
If I were your dad, I would have gotten up, walked out the door and went to another dealership to buy the new Cadillac. I would have them driven back to the original salesman and shown him in front of the General Manager and said something like; After the way in which you talked down to me and tried to belittle me, I chose to buy my Cadillac from a salesman who listened to me and heard what I was saying, so I bought my Cadillac from him. Therefore you lost the commission and this dealership lost the sale. Furthermore when I choose to buy my next Cadillac, I’ll make sure that I buy from your competitor. Enjoy your day ! You better believe that that salesman would have found himself unemployed.
@hq21
@hq21 10 ай бұрын
Congrats on making the most Boomer post of the day! BTW: The salesman was being quite honest with him.@@Doc1855
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
@@nycstarport8542 The type with the reallllly shiny loafers?
@DSP1968
@DSP1968 10 ай бұрын
A great overview, Adam. I always thought of the Calais as a continuation of the '64 and earlier Series 62. It was part of that Sears "good, better, best" idea that permeated a lot of marketing decisions in the era. Also, certain very popular options were simply not available on the Calais at all, or not for a long time. Case in point: a vinyl top, one of the "must have" accessories of the era, was not available on the Calais until 1975. Some of the other minor equipment deletions/deviations were probably simply to provide differentiation. I think the Merlin plaid interiors were pretty jazzy for the day, though.
@loveisall5520
@loveisall5520 10 ай бұрын
Exactly--the Calais for '65 was simply a re-badged Series 62, which was of course responsible for the deVille upgrade in the fifties, and the 62 was the most popular. Changing consumer demographics with increasing prosperity hurt the 62; remember, when the TurboHydraMatic was first introduced to Cadillac, the 62 had to go with the old HydraMatic for a year before receiving it. I had a friend whose parents had a '66 Calais 4-door hardtop with the optional power windows, seat, and certainly it seemed more luxurious than my parents' '66 Bonneville 4-door.
@stanmarcusgtv
@stanmarcusgtv 10 ай бұрын
you are correct - the 62 was replaced by the Calais which was for decades the entry level model and the Coupe and Sedan DeVilles were higher priced options for the 62 series
@tholmes2169
@tholmes2169 10 ай бұрын
Interesting, you cleared up a question I had about a car I almost bought over 20 years ago. It was a 64 Cadillac, white with a blue interior 2 door hardtop. It had no name like DeVille, etc. So I assume based on this thread it was more than likely a Series 62. It just said Cadillac on it. A very nice car and the 429 purred but the seller and I made a deal but then she sold it out from under me to someone else before I had a chance to come back with the money a day later.
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 10 ай бұрын
@@tholmes2169 Too bad, that 4 speed Hydramatic was no slouch.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 3 ай бұрын
And some people did not want power windows and power seat because they thought they might be unreliable or might leak hydraulic fluid, (the early power windows were hydraulic), and ditto for the new trans. What if it proved to be a bad unit? Then people with older models might laugh at you.
@MostlyBuicks
@MostlyBuicks 10 ай бұрын
The Electra Park Ave or 225 Limited would be a MUCH better buy back then. You typically got more for your money buying a top of the line Buick over many Cadillac models.
@lincoslam
@lincoslam 9 ай бұрын
But it wasn't a Cadillac....and that meant something 50 years ago.
@RENRAW111
@RENRAW111 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you so much for all your hard work. And please make more.
@americarsqueensland1667
@americarsqueensland1667 10 ай бұрын
I'm usually not a fan of base models but I do like the 75 & 76 Calais especially the seating materials and some were quite well optioned.
@randolfo1265
@randolfo1265 10 ай бұрын
It's like buying the cheapest house in the nicest neighbourhood that you can afford. Best decision down the road.
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 10 ай бұрын
The Calais wasn't a new model, just a new nameplate. The entry-level Cadillac had been called Series Sixty-Two (usually written out like that) for years up through 1964.
@OnkelPHMagee
@OnkelPHMagee 10 ай бұрын
That was the first thing that I thought, too.
@gregt8638
@gregt8638 10 ай бұрын
Me too!
@cadillacguy1890
@cadillacguy1890 10 ай бұрын
You are correct, the series Sixty Two was the “entry” level Cadillac. You’d add the “DeVille” trim to your series sixty two coupe or sedan to take it upmarket. Before all of that, up through the early 1950’s there was a Sixty One series model. It rode on a shorter wheelbase than the sixty two, although it had the same styling and drivetrain. The sixty one series was launched in 1939, probably to sway buyers to Cadillac with the pending demise of LaSalle.
@markchandler1130
@markchandler1130 10 ай бұрын
I agree. I think the Series 62 became somewhat confusing in the 1960s.
@UberLummox
@UberLummox 10 ай бұрын
Exactly !!! And all the cnvts except the Eldo were 62 Series only.
@davidkastin4240
@davidkastin4240 10 ай бұрын
Those 1 yr only interiors were awesome. Love Cadillacs.
@Pisti846
@Pisti846 10 ай бұрын
The blue plaid interior is beautiful. Beats the heck out of the silver/beige/black interiors of today.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Ай бұрын
I would be tempted to get a Calais just for that sharp interior. In the 70s, though, I was a young man and couldn't afford a Cad, new or used.
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 10 ай бұрын
My dad bought my mom a 1974 Cadillac Sedan De’ Ville (Fleetwood). It had a 472 big block V8. Then in 78 he bought her a new Sedan De’ Ville D’ Elegance Brougham. It had a 425 V8. She kept the 74 as her 2nd car after their divorce. My mom didn’t know that my sister and I had an extra set of keys made, so after mom would go to work, then I’d drive it to school. I was 15 at the time and didn’t even have a learner’s permit. That Caddy would peel rubber across the state. Six months before she sold it she put new tires on it and when she sold it, the rear tires were bald, while the front were still new. She had bought a new 280ZX but kept the 78 , so once again we had an extra set of keys made. By then I was 16 and had a drivers license. My sister had a 68 Ford Galaxy 500 with a 390 V8. Whenever my sister or I wanted to go to a party, we’d load up the 78 with a bunch of kids, (each one would pitch in a buck for gas, (back then gasoline was 89 cents per gallon), so $10 of gas was more than enough to get us to and from the party and gave me enough gas for the week. I waited until I was in my 30s before I told her about what my sister and I had done.
@markt4605
@markt4605 10 ай бұрын
Ahh, the good ‘ole days! You’re bringing me back..
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 10 ай бұрын
@@markt4605 Oh, you were a wild child too? Cheers !
@steelman86
@steelman86 10 ай бұрын
Are you mixing model names together by chance!!
@markt4605
@markt4605 10 ай бұрын
@@Doc1855 I called it revelry within reason. It was the 70’s. We were smarter.
@HighSierra1500
@HighSierra1500 10 ай бұрын
Kind of like when my friends and I would hot box my dad's 1984 GMC Suburban. I was 18 then. I'm 39 now and I still haven't told my dad!
@snorkjones
@snorkjones 10 ай бұрын
Your channel is quickly becoming one of my all-time favorites. I love your take on the classics ...maybe it's because I'm technically a 'classic' myself. It's very easy to romanticize my past when it's juxtaposed against what passes as 'desirable' today. Thank you for your interesting commentary. I suspect you may be one of only a handful of people capable of communicating such detailed information with regard to the cars of my youth.
@RareClassicCars
@RareClassicCars 10 ай бұрын
Cool! Thx!
@NYWF
@NYWF 10 ай бұрын
I too, am fast approaching that "Classic" status. Your comment was very nicely put! 👍
@drno-xc1yt
@drno-xc1yt 10 ай бұрын
That blue plaid interior is awesome. If you were going to buy one of these malaise era 1970's land yachts today, why not get the maximum 70's experience and get one with that interior?
@ostrich67
@ostrich67 10 ай бұрын
It looked interesting but it didn’t feel good.
@paulpage5034
@paulpage5034 10 ай бұрын
Great comments as always Adam! I recall also as Cadillac emerged from the Depression the viability of La Salle became questionable. When La Salle was finally drooped in 1940 a lower price Cadillac Series 61 was added. This retained La Salle customers while generating more profits and less costs for the division. This helped Cadillac compete more successfully with the Packard 120 and Lincoln Zephyr. It also outflanked Buick, briefly pushing it’s Series 90 Limited models even further into Cadillac’s niche, a battle not won by Harlow Curtice. May we have commentary on a 1964-66 Imperial sometime?
@andrewinaustintx
@andrewinaustintx 10 ай бұрын
My favorite years of the Series 61 are the 49 to 53 two door sedans that road on a shorter wheel base. The big edge over its competitors was the 331 cubic inch push rod V8, which was great engine for its time.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 10 ай бұрын
The "small Cadillac" that my father and other working people aspired to but only a few actually got around to buying one @@andrewinaustintx
@OLDS98
@OLDS98 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Adam. I knew about the Cadillac Calais, but I liked this discussion in detail. It is interesting two things: The Calais nameplate went on to be used at Oldsmobile on several models and at Holden at GM in Australia. I was told the Calais was intended to go after Oldsmobile 98 buyers at the price point. I heard that the Cadillac wanted the 1972 Oldsmobile 98 Regency seats to but in the Cadillac Calais and GM said no. The Calais name may have died at Cadillac, but lived on at Oldsmobile and Holden. They stripped this Cadillac model. Thank you Adam.
@michaelwhite2823
@michaelwhite2823 10 ай бұрын
No mystery. The Calais was the Series 62. The 74 to 76 had the wild plaid upholstery. This is about mid 70s interiors which you already covered. Why bash the Calais which was nothing new, a replacement for Series 62
@cscms28
@cscms28 10 ай бұрын
This was when suddenly it wasn't just the country club members driving a Caddy, it became the tennis pro too. Hence the shift to Mercedes.
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt 10 ай бұрын
My Dad bought a Series 72 ‘59 new. He was a welder. $4500.
@yossarian6799
@yossarian6799 10 ай бұрын
Ironic that in its final year, the Calais only sold about "6200" units....
@dennisduran8500
@dennisduran8500 10 ай бұрын
My parents first Cadillac was a 1965 Calais Coupe. My dad told me he really wanted the Buick Riviera but they were starting a family and the Riviera had bucket seats front and back. Our Calais didn't have AC and no power windows.
@67marlins
@67marlins 10 ай бұрын
A 1965 Cadillac ANYTHING without power windows......(?!?) Honestly I'm shocked......and can understand WHY you'd remember that omission!
@nycstarport8542
@nycstarport8542 10 ай бұрын
Wow, a Cadillac Without power windows; l didn't think that existed!!
@JamesVaughan
@JamesVaughan 10 ай бұрын
Power windows and seat were optional on the Cadillac Calais until the 1970s when they finally became standard as they had been on all other Cadillac models since the mid-1950s, but at the factory power windows were nevertheless installed on virtually every Cadillac Calais model, and I have only seen one 1965 Cadillac with crank windows, a Calais 4-door hardtop. Cadillac, along with Lincoln, was one of the first makes to have power windows when they were introduced in the early 1940s. They were hydraulic back then but became electric in 1954.
@jamesrecknor6752
@jamesrecknor6752 10 ай бұрын
I have seen a 75 Calais coupe, no air conditioning equipment.
@jaydlytning
@jaydlytning 10 ай бұрын
​@@nycstarport8542I saw one a long time ago and didn't know what it was. Now I know I was looking at a Calais!
@user-nm5yv6ij8w
@user-nm5yv6ij8w 10 ай бұрын
You failed to mention that the door pulls that were used on the 1975 Calais seem to be a carry-over from ALL 1974 Cadillac models. All of the 1975 upscale models had the new type spring-loaded metal door pulls (wrapped in faux wood) shown in some of your photos. I'm really surprised you missed pointing that out.
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 10 ай бұрын
With only 8% to save I wonder if buyers at the time were looking at big Buick and Oldsmobiles as well. They were as flashy and even more beautiful to me.
@tombrown1898
@tombrown1898 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't the Calais simply a renamed Series 62? The DeVille was originally a dress-up package for the 62. The 62 standard trim was vinyl and cloth, whereas the DeVille gave leather trim. Very comparable to the Calais.
@georgewilson1184
@georgewilson1184 10 ай бұрын
Yes I found it to be Provocative Cadillac needs something along these lines for a entry level Cadillac CAR !! Yes I said CAR and stop rebadging Chevy SUVs us traditionalists would like to see a full-size Coupe & 4 door Sedan models to choose from with Cadillac (built ) V 8 Engines
@douglasthrelfall5318
@douglasthrelfall5318 10 ай бұрын
When was a kid, I saw the “Calais” nameplate on the quarter panel of an early 70’s 2-door and asked my dad why that wasn’t a Coupe DeVille? He then told me it was a cheap Cadillac, kind of an automotive oxymoron. Then I learned what an oxymoron was.
@Dan-tf1zq
@Dan-tf1zq 9 ай бұрын
Calais was a continuation of the series 62 model. Cadillac just decided to give this series a name. I am a 40 year member of the Cadillac-LaSalle club.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 10 ай бұрын
The idea of a "bargain" Cadillac was not new for 1965; the 61 and then the 62 were the entry level cars when the 62 and then the Deville were the "deluxe" versions (not to mention the LaSalle). Shockingly, for 1950 and 1951, the 61 was sold with a 122" wheelbase, right in the middle of Pontiac-Buick-Oldsmobile territory, perhaps due to interest during those years from racers attracted to Cadillac's new OHV V8. For 1952, the base 62 took over as the "bargain" model with the "Deville" versions of the 62 as the upgrade. Interestingly, the 62 was officially renamed the "6200" for 1959, but people still often called it the 62, which must have been particularly awkward for the 1962 model year. Maybe that was part of the reason the "6200" designation was replaced with the "Calais", apparently named after a city in France now known for violent refugee camps and riots. I can see the argument for selling a stripped down version of the C body, GM's roomiest sedan during many model years, for fleet owners, but selling it as a Cadillac seemed a bit odd. Ford had a better idea with its stretched LTD and Crown Victoria models, often built on the wheelbase of a Lincoln Town Car.
@Romiman1
@Romiman1 10 ай бұрын
Love it, when even entry-models are shiny boats like this Calais. And I like 76's Calais' Coupe's full padded roof better then this half padded one on the Coupe de Ville. Back then, when Cadillacs looked like Cadillacs (not like Honda Civics or Chevy trucks)...
@thebestisyettocome4114
@thebestisyettocome4114 10 ай бұрын
You speak with such articulate words. Your grammar is superb. Kudos. 👍
@HowardLewis2
@HowardLewis2 10 ай бұрын
While I agree there were by modern standards some over the top cloth seats and trim in the 1970s, I sure wish there was more interesting cloth trim in vehicles today.
@onkelmicke9670
@onkelmicke9670 10 ай бұрын
That green Maharaja interior was awesome.
@danielulz1640
@danielulz1640 10 ай бұрын
I like it too.
@hynestimothy411
@hynestimothy411 10 ай бұрын
You have to understand the era that they were produced in, people actually wore clothes made in that kind of design of fabric, you just weren't born yet to understand 😂
@desertmodern7638
@desertmodern7638 10 ай бұрын
Four hundred years ago in high school a kid had a hand-me-down 1969 Calais pillared hardtop with manual windows, the only time I've seen a Cadillac so equipped. At about the same time we knew an elegant woman of considerable means (and discipline) who bought a new white Calais coupe every year, always devoid of vinyl roof and spotlessly kept. Such a lovely arrival she would make.
@joemorsman6531
@joemorsman6531 10 ай бұрын
Not to pick nits here, but I believe that Cadillac made power windows standard on the Calais for the 1968 model year. It always seemed odd the items that were deleted from the deVille series for the 62s and Calais models - no cigarette lighters in the back, no leather interior option, no center armrest in the hardtop models. You could get all those things in a 1967 Plymouth VIP, for crying out loud! Lol
@emmexfyv
@emmexfyv 2 ай бұрын
Hey she was always under warranty!
@emmexfyv
@emmexfyv 2 ай бұрын
@@joemorsman6531 What slays me is every once in awhile I see an Olds 98 with no cruise! The absolute epitome of a Highway Car and always top of the line yet there were people who just had to save 150 bucks. Yet they lost more than that in resale no doubt.
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 Ай бұрын
@@emmexfyv It wasn't always to save money, some people, myself included, just don't trust Cruise. I have tried in the past to get used to it, but it just seems scary. Besides, nowadays in my neck of the woods, the traffic is so horrible that it is impossible to maintain a steady speed, no matter what lane you use.
@emmexfyv
@emmexfyv Ай бұрын
@@jamesbosworth4191 --Scary? I've been using cruise in maybe 250 vehicles over 40 years of driving, and never been scared LOL......are you aware a tap of the brakes cancels it? There's also the option to just never activate it. I maintain it should be present on this type of car if only for resale. I would not buy a car without it.
@damianbowyer2018
@damianbowyer2018 10 ай бұрын
Terrific-Looking '75 Cadillac Calais Land Yachts, with unbelievably Gr8 Interiors, Adam😊🙌
@P.Galore
@P.Galore 10 ай бұрын
Consider the opposite strategy. The Mustang starts under $30k. You can also spend $70k+ for a GT spec. The general public would be hard pressed to tell the difference as you passed by. I would venture that the driver of Calais felt better about his purchase..
@darrenp1549
@darrenp1549 10 ай бұрын
If I remember, Most of the early Calais had manual windows standard, Power was an option. And also, Most Calais were converted to Hearses, Ambulances and executive sedans.
@MSX98FMDnB
@MSX98FMDnB 10 ай бұрын
manual windows on a cadillac, that sounds so strange haha
@davidpar2
@davidpar2 10 ай бұрын
At least the Calais, like the Series Sixty One, was still a real Cadillac, unlike the Cimarron and Catera
@jamesbosworth4191
@jamesbosworth4191 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@alanatkielski2572
@alanatkielski2572 10 ай бұрын
A Slightly Discontented De Ville- No Wreaths surrounding the crests anywhere on the car. Manual vs Automatic climate control. Vinyl vs Leather interior trim. No bright trim on Pedals. A simplified Wood INT trim. No rear seat center armrest. Chrome vs Chrome and Gold inlay INT knobs. Actually better looking than most DeVilles ! And no Trim packages!
@jag5316
@jag5316 10 ай бұрын
Hey, in 1975 you could buy a Cadillac with an interior that matches your loud sports jacket and golf pants.
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
Bell-bottoms with huge cuffs!
@jag5316
@jag5316 10 ай бұрын
@@billolsen4360 I believe those were called elephant bells
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
@@jag5316 Hey, that's right! Forgot that.
@GrotrianSeiler
@GrotrianSeiler 10 ай бұрын
There’s no question, Adam is a great writer.
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 10 ай бұрын
The "cheap" Cadillac came out in 1936, the Series 60. (Not the Fleetwood Series 60 Special, the "plain" Series 60). It became the Series 61 for 39, disappeared for 1940, but came back for 41. It lasted through 1951, but starting in 52, there was a "plain" Series 62 Hardtop in addition to the Coupe De Ville. Starting 1964 or 65, the new Calais was sort of a return of the Series 61, not something new.
@charlescarter1529
@charlescarter1529 9 ай бұрын
Yes, more or less, the series 62 became the bargain Cadillac. They just gave it a name in '65.
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 10 ай бұрын
I saw in the brochure that they showed a Cadillac Calais in "Commodore" Blue. GM Holden called their top spec Commodore the "Calais". Amazing how GM reused model names around the world.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 10 ай бұрын
They re-used the name once more on a 1980s Oldsmobile coup.
@ostrich67
@ostrich67 10 ай бұрын
All the good names are trademarked ™
@408SPLKINGS
@408SPLKINGS 10 ай бұрын
Allante Cadillac's premium convertible with Northstar should of never been discontinued 😢 Great looks, comfort, luxury, smooth & powerful 😍
@freddyhollingsworth5945
@freddyhollingsworth5945 10 ай бұрын
Some would have simply bought into the whole "Calais" drama to get the superior treatment of the Cadillac dealerships vs Buick, Olds, or say the Mercury treatment when they came in for service and or warranty work.. Loaded or not, it was still a Cadillac!!!
@drakewauters2109
@drakewauters2109 10 ай бұрын
I loved the less flashy style of the Calais.
@wildcaughtfirewood1511
@wildcaughtfirewood1511 10 ай бұрын
My first car was a ‘75 Coupe DeVille. Great beast of a car
@willjay916
@willjay916 10 ай бұрын
Is it just me, or does the Merlin cloth plaid upholstery just scream Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare?
@tholmes2169
@tholmes2169 10 ай бұрын
Definitely has a mid 70s Mopar feel to it.
@steves9905
@steves9905 10 ай бұрын
Huh. I knew a guy with a '72 Calais coupe, black over black, without a vinyl roof...it was sold a few years ago...wonder if it was the same one? Anyway, we're in sync on the plaid interiors of the Calais...i sometime go out and search for one as they are just, so so much. Love them. Although I have never seen this one 5:55 before and it might 'out-plaid' the plaid
@kevinjokipii4260
@kevinjokipii4260 10 ай бұрын
It's the Herbert R. Tarlek edition interior, before WKRP even went on the air! And I say that as a man who once owned a Cordoba with houndstooth cloth seats.
@andoletube
@andoletube 10 ай бұрын
yeah, you can't win them all, but you've won plenty, Adam. You have one of the finest fleets of cars I've ever seen. You could start a museum with the history you've got in your garage!
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt 10 ай бұрын
We had the 59 base model 2 door. $4500. Never really missed not having power windows, locks and seats. AC was rare in those days. About 10% of the cost of the vehicle. I recall when Calais was introduced in 65. Marketing lit made it to be a sporty car.
@bc5441
@bc5441 10 ай бұрын
Years later when General Motors repurposed and downgraded the Calais name as an Oldsmobile, I knew someone who bought a Calais and was confused by it. A new car! How exciting! “What did you get?” I asked my friend. A wrinkled brow and a curious tone of voice accompanied the answer: “a callous?”
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 10 ай бұрын
Olds did some strange things with car names back in the day. Chevrolet had Sierra Trucks and Olds had Ciera sedans. They'd be long forgotten today if the movie Fargo hadn't been so popular.
@knowbodiesfull5768
@knowbodiesfull5768 10 ай бұрын
In the 1980s, there was another Sierra : an overseas Ford car. The United States eventually received a high-performance version of that model. It became known to us as the Merkur XR4Ti. (Yeah, I know, another story for another time.)
@jayweiss4378
@jayweiss4378 10 ай бұрын
I like how they used French names …just sounds cooler 👍🏻
@bzb6059
@bzb6059 10 ай бұрын
Have a 66 Calais, the only only classic I can’t let go of. I just love the car.
@Jeo-fq1zw
@Jeo-fq1zw 10 ай бұрын
My favorite Cadillac is a 1968 60 special....Black on black.
@cardo1111
@cardo1111 10 ай бұрын
That plaid interior was much more fitting in a Volkswagen than a Cadillac.
@ostrich67
@ostrich67 10 ай бұрын
The "Herb Tarlek" seats.
@chrisinsd4590
@chrisinsd4590 10 ай бұрын
I just ordered a sofa from Room and Board for my cabin in the mountains in “Kivvett” that looks eerily like “Morgan Plaid” resurrected. I would love to find a matching Calais😅
@davidmwood560
@davidmwood560 10 ай бұрын
I was told, (by Cadillac) that the "Calais" was introduced as a result of a huge 'lower spec' order from the Mary Kaye organisation. All their reps had pink Cadillac Calais company cars. Given that I was told this by Cadillac, it's probably close to being accurate.
@clydemorgan1439
@clydemorgan1439 10 ай бұрын
He forgot to mention gas prices were fluctuating between from 1974 to 1979 and people were moving toward more economical cars, this was a factor in lower production numbers as these. the last of the big land yachts and only got 10 miles to the gallon.
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 10 ай бұрын
Another interesting and thoroughly enjoyable video. Well done.
@TheBrooklynfoo
@TheBrooklynfoo 10 ай бұрын
My grandparents had a 76 Sedan Deville when i was growing up, and that thing was the biggest pile of crap of all cars we've had before or since. Anything that could go wrong with it did, and It sorta shifted the rest of us over to Japanese cars.
@NYWF
@NYWF 10 ай бұрын
I always felt that with GM's pricing hierarchy, buying either a base Series 62 up to 1964, and the Calais from 1965 on, just didn't make a lot of sense. Each division's top-of-the-line fully optioned model always had to fall below the lowest priced base model of the next hire up division. A fully optioned Buick Electra made a much nicer buy than a cheapened base Cadillac. Having a base Cadillac just to have a Cadillac really doesn't make sense. Just like the much maligned Cimmaron, less is often times just that- less!! Nowadays, GM doesn't adhere to those pricing structures, so it is very easy to but a Chevrolet that costs much more than a Cadillac model!! Pricing structures are so blurred anymore with all car companies, it really takes away from the feel of exclusivity with any brand.
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy 10 ай бұрын
I really like the Calais, especially from a modern ownership perspective- you get the Cadillac looks and motor without as many power accessories. Some of the cloth seating surfaces were actually pretty nice. By 71, I'd argue the devilles had lower quality than any of the 60s Calais.
@jaydlytning
@jaydlytning 10 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with wanting a Cadillac with crank windows! Maybe you liked the style and the engine, but didn't feel the need to be as fancy. There was a market for the Calais. I get that you just said the same thing, ha ha. Oh well.
@dmer-zy3rb
@dmer-zy3rb 10 ай бұрын
but wasnt the calais kind of overpriced compared to the 98 and electra? but yeah nothing wrong with a strong, comfortable cruiser without much power options. and cloth is better than leather anyway.
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy 10 ай бұрын
Another side note is that Cadillacs generally held their value better than any comparable Buick or Olds. Using a NADA used car price guide from October 1968 (New England region), I compared the difference between retail value and factory ADP. I used model years 1967 and 1965 for this test (all in 4-door hardtop bodystyle). For the the 1967 Cadillac Calais, it retained about 82% of it's value. By comparison, the Electra 225 Custom retained 74% and the Olds 98 retained 70%. For model year 1965, the Calais retained 46% of its value, the Buick Electra Custom retained 45%, and the Oldsmobile retained only 42% of its value. Sure, it might've been more expensive than any other comprable non-Cadillac from GM, the Calais still retained value like a Cadillac. By comparison, I checked the numbers for both the '67 and '65 Deville as well, retaining 80% and 48% respectively.
@mikenonya6382
@mikenonya6382 10 ай бұрын
I was a 19yo kid when I bought a used 66 blue Calais for $500.00. It had 89k miles and was the best car I ever owned. I gave it to my Father In Law 2 years later and bought a 74 Dodge Charger. Hated it after the Caddy. 14 months later I traded it in for a used 71 Coupe de Ville.
@joeseeking3572
@joeseeking3572 10 ай бұрын
Cadillac really didn't create the Calais for 1965 so much as it replaced the Series 62 which had a similar price differential. One coud argue that it actually was an effort to give the base model its own identity, though of course in sales that didn't work. I remember as a kid searching out the Calais while car spotting - I didn't know then that it was a detrimmed deVille, to me it seemed 'special'. Almost bought a 66 sedan (not a hardtop) once in white, but the original owner took the brief too seriously and it had crank windows, which was a dealbreaker. In 68 Cadillac relented and made them standard for all series. I particularly appreciate the years where you could NOT get the vinyl roof on the Calais because most of the deVille's had that option and the car (especially the coupes) looked better without. They opened up the option in 74. As for the interior shown, I suspect the 75-76 plaid was someone's idea of sport/casual - "look honey, we're with it, just like those disco kids" That, or 'we have a sailboat'.
@LerockJohn
@LerockJohn 10 ай бұрын
6:00 The "WKRP Herb Tarlek Edition". 1974 salesman of the year. And of course he went for the 400$ cheaper model.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd 10 ай бұрын
I think the '71-'73 Coupe Devilles and Calais are my favorite, along with the '67 models.
@richardmorris6365
@richardmorris6365 10 ай бұрын
It was the Biscayne of the lineup. A good baseline Caddy,didnt have all the options but at the heart a full sized Caddy. In retrospec you could get a loaded Caprice or a stripped Cadillac for about the same $$.
@krs965
@krs965 10 ай бұрын
Cadillac saw a chance to sell the Calais to Buick Electra & Olds 98 customers. One GM division vs another. I came to the Cadillac dealer to buy a Calais coupe, but got a De Ville instead. Interior color was limited on the Calais. I did order a new Coupe De Ville without a vinyl roof. That was in 1974, year of 472's & round headlights.
@jnucci1
@jnucci1 10 ай бұрын
When I was a kid in the early 70s there was a 65 Calais that was always parked on my street. I remember the first time I looked in the windows and was shocked that it had crank windows all around. Why certainly, I thought, ALL Caddilacs had electric windows! It was years later when I realized not all Cadillacs with the appearance were deVilles.
@raywilson9450
@raywilson9450 10 ай бұрын
In '78 I bought a cherry '69 Calais off a Cadillac dealer lot in Virginia Beach. It was like showroom new. No vinyl top. Silver. Acres of silver. 472. I wish I kept that car. Boy do I wish I kept that car.
@thomasdearment3214
@thomasdearment3214 10 ай бұрын
whenever I bought a luxury vehicle it better have leather interior, I know they put leather in everything now. But that was the sign of luxury when I was young and full of hp.
@Romiman1
@Romiman1 10 ай бұрын
But this is declining currently, because of that "vegan" hype. So "vegan leather" like Alcantara will be the next luxury standard.
@thomasdearment3214
@thomasdearment3214 10 ай бұрын
@@Romiman1I see more car with leather interiors now than when i was young all my cars have leather period
@Romiman1
@Romiman1 10 ай бұрын
@@thomasdearment3214 Yes. My last 4 cars too. But 10 -15 years ago, there was no "vegan leather"...
@jeffsmith846
@jeffsmith846 10 ай бұрын
I'm the oddball that would buy a 65 or 66 Calais without power windows or seat. I'd still get the great Cadillac drivetrain and the best auto temp control at the time. Also the grill would still be fabulous as well as the dash panel. Sorta like the Lincoln Continental of the same era. Quality without being ostentatious.
@5610winston
@5610winston 10 ай бұрын
2:10 It reminds me of the 1930s Packard One-Twenty and the 1950s Packard 200/Clipper and 300/Cavalier models, probably most closely parallel to the Cavalier which was basically a lower trim level Patrician-size car. In Packard's case, their 1920s and '30s product mix of eight- and twelve-cylinder models left them with nothing in their line that the average new-car buyer could afford and no high-volume low- to mid-price line to keep the company solvent until better times could prevail. The One-Twenty was priced in Buick and Oldsmobile territory' and there was a lower still priced Six/One-Ten. The lower-priced Packards of the 1930s into the '50s were advertised as having the prestige of the "Ask the Man Who Owns One" Packard name, but undermined the senior models to the degree that Packard never recovered. You may recall that the last Packards in 1957-'58 were little more than Packard taillights slapped onto Studebaker Presidents and priced against the lower-mid-price DeSoto Firesweep and entry-level Edsel Ranger.
@loumontcalm3500
@loumontcalm3500 10 ай бұрын
And the latter day Packard clubs snubbed the 110's as they still do the Packardbakers.
@brerrabbit9585
@brerrabbit9585 10 ай бұрын
'You could buy a Cadillac cheaply, but you couldn`t buy a cheap Cadillac'. Today this would be called an 'entry level model'. I`ll take it.
@HAL-dm1eh
@HAL-dm1eh 10 ай бұрын
Part of me just finds it silly to save a few bucks like this, but I suppose it meant a lot to quite a few people who couldn't quite get into the coveted Cadillac otherwise. It was also apparently good marketing, luring that many more people onto dealerships whether they could afford them or not.
@michaelbenardo5695
@michaelbenardo5695 10 ай бұрын
Some people don't like rocker trim, as they feel that they breed rust. Ditto for vinyl tops.
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this one, Adam.. I never really understood the Calais at the time those were new, Adam.. They went cheap in ways that seemed stupid to me, cutting corners as you pointed out on things like door lights and pedal trim. Few had tilt/telescopic steering or cruise control. Thankfully, PS, PB and Climate Control were standard on ALL Cadillacs.. I agree with you that now these look better sans vinyl roof, but at the time they were new, the ones without a vinyl roof simply looked unfinished.
@pcno2832
@pcno2832 10 ай бұрын
The '71-'73 coupes had an indentation in the roof to hide the padding and without the vinyl roof, the indentation was a prominent feature of the metal roof. I'm sure it struck some people as a bit odd.
@ralphl7643
@ralphl7643 10 ай бұрын
Climate control wasn't standard on non-Fleetwood 75 Cadillacs until '75, five years after Lincoln.
@Marklin15
@Marklin15 10 ай бұрын
Coming from the Mercedes world of this era a lot of these features seem gimmicky.
@ralphl7643
@ralphl7643 10 ай бұрын
@@Marklin15 They are partly one-upmanship and bragging rights. OTOH, MB didn't have tilt wheel or A/C adequate for half the US.
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 10 ай бұрын
@@ralphl7643 Cadillac was the first to make AC standard on the 1957 Fleetwood Eldorado Brougham. In 1964 Cadillac became the first to offer CLIMATE CONTROL, where interior temperature was regulated by thermostats, and ALL AC systems on ALL Cadillacs were the Climate Control variety. The fact it wasn't technically "standard" equipment on all cars produced is mostly meaningless since nearly all were so equipped. I can't think of any Cadillac I've seen without AC since the 1950s.
@petehunter2988
@petehunter2988 10 ай бұрын
That first Calias plaid interior would camouflage the owner, who probably was wearing a matching sport coat!
@mickeydogtubemickeydogtube6856
@mickeydogtubemickeydogtube6856 10 ай бұрын
I remember the early model Calais (Series Sixty Two) often had manual side windows. I always thought why get a Cadillac and not have atleast power windows?
@michaeltutty1540
@michaeltutty1540 10 ай бұрын
Before the Calais, the base Cadillac was the Series 62, and the upgrade was the deVille series. Dont forget the short deck Park Avenue in the late 50s and early 60s. On Series 62 and later Calais options were limited. The name Calais was discintinued, but the concept lived on. DeVille moved down in trim, and the d'Elegance package replaced the former deVille as the luxury model.
@garygerbino3171
@garygerbino3171 10 ай бұрын
Adam, Seems like you are posting more frequently. Do you still work full-time?
@ericbitzer5247
@ericbitzer5247 10 ай бұрын
There was a red one for sale with the plaid cloth not too long ago. I thought it looked really cool. I agree with the 71-73 exteriors. I think I like the 72 the most.
@ms7168
@ms7168 9 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a "cheap Cadillac". A Buick or an Oldsmobile :)
@up0820
@up0820 10 ай бұрын
The Cimarron was junk in 82 and still junk in 88, it was just a fancy cavalier.
@michaelc9287
@michaelc9287 10 ай бұрын
Those seat fabrics help explain why pimps liked to drive Cadillacs.
@MNBluestater
@MNBluestater 10 ай бұрын
It’s so shocking to see these behemoths and then note how much they all shrunk in 1977.
@CH67guy1
@CH67guy1 10 ай бұрын
They might have shrunk for 1977, but I thought my aunt’s brand new 1977 triple yellow Sedan DeVille was absolutely the sharpest new car on the road at the time. And its new car smell was positively intoxicating to me as a 10 year old. I was essentially huffing a new Cadillac.
@alexanderspenser4960
@alexanderspenser4960 10 ай бұрын
Never have been a 'chrome guy', probably why I was attracted to the Calais, and the later to come Concourse. With all the detail found in your videos, only hope someone at GM is watching.👍🏾🏁🇺🇸
@AaronSmith-kr5yf
@AaronSmith-kr5yf 10 ай бұрын
Dude I just bought a button up shirt from Dillards last week that has almost that same "blue" pattern at 5:03.
@kirbywaite1586
@kirbywaite1586 10 ай бұрын
Not crazy at all. After all, that's what the Cadillac LaSalle was .
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