Another Intermediate Black Hole Found Right In the Center of Milky Way

[@alasdair1571]

I remember you saying a few years back that no Intermediate sized black holes had been discovered, and now they have...wow to progress in science!

[@billiondollardan]

It's crazy to think 32,000 solar masses is only an intermediate black hole. They just get so terribly massive it boggles the mind

[@Deletirium]

Just like your mom. 🥰

[@ngcastronerd4791]

Well here is the thing. We dont know whats at the center. Could be some quantum gravitational effects. All this to say mass and energy are interchangeable. So it could be said there is a lot of energy there. Food for thought.

[@custossecretus5737]

It is counter intuitive to think that black holes can be of varying sizes, yet all have the same singularity in the centre.

[@ngcastronerd4791]

@@custossecretus5737 The singularity represents more of a breakdown in GR. We dont know what is at the center.

[@Psillytripper]

alien life forms

[@ronen44444447]

My favorite 2 AM program, can't fall asleep without it. Thank you Anton!

[@chrisphinney8475]

Where the fuck you live? Its 7 PM in the USA

[@alexander_d1277]

@@chrisphinney8475 I bet, they even use kilometers there. and what the fuck is kilometer, am I right?

[@ronen44444447]

@@chrisphinney8475 lmao, *not* in the USA

[@xrafter]

​@chrisphinney8475 Science

[@karlberg-music]

American discovers that other countries exist and the earth rotates ​@@chrisphinney8475

[@Nineveh29]

Anton thank you for communicating science to us so well! I remember when they didn't know what was at the center of galaxies.

[@George-rk7ts]

It's especially cool when things are found relatively nearby. Thank you, wonderful sir.

[@Chris-wz5yd]

@@George-rk7ts I just found a peanut, it was incredibly close.

[@George-rk7ts]

@@Chris-wz5yd And it's way better than if it was on Mars, right,?

[@Chris-wz5yd]

@@George-rk7ts It was cool, you were right.

[@NightBazaar]

@@Chris-wz5yd Was it an intermediate peanut? Or supermassive peanut? Did you eat it?

[@Chris-wz5yd]

@@NightBazaar It had very little atmosphere and a thin brown powdery dust on it's surface. That's all I can tell you really.

[@geoffstrickler]

At 0.1-1LY, that’s well inside the “final parsec” which itself is useful info.

[@n3v3r1s4]

After googling this, apparently mergers can in fact happen in more complex systems (3 or more), and according to this video the intermediates are practicaly swarming Sag A*, so I guess we've just been theorizing... too theoreticaly (1 hole vs 1 hole without particular influence from other bodies). So mergers would happen (which is what circumstantial evidence has been implying anyway practicaly speaking, not to mention the gravitational waves discoveries) - the interesting bit is that in such systems, fly-away black holes would presumably be quite common? Imagine a little 100k stellar mass BH hurtling through the galaxy at break-neck speeds.. perhaps the intergalactic space is relatively full of such phenomena, even.

[@Time-Shepherd.]

Thanks, Anton 🙏🤠👋

[@jeremy1350]

Hi Anton. I hear Dorothy saying "I didn't need to go somewhere else to find what I was looking for, but stay in my own back yard !!!" And now we have an IMBH garden circling Sag A*. Whoda thunkit !!! How did all those black holes get there, and when did they get there ? Were they the "Seeds" that created the Milky Way?? My head hurts now !! Thank you Anton for another great presentation.

[@NightBazaar]

I'll get you my pretty. And your little dog too!

[@IAmWithinEverything]

Thank you for all your hard work ❤

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙂

[@MyraSeavy]

I just love this stuff! I'm learning so much! Thanks Anton! Love that smile too!! 😊

[@TheSprinkler]

pull up anton

[@thomasherndon-io2gl]

Compliments and applause again and again wonderful Anton. Please accept some of the admiration and respect I declare you deserve. Allergies are punishment, my very best wishes to you and may moments of profound joy come upon you unexpectedly.

[@marknovak6498]

So intermediate black holes are grist for supermassive black holes. Glad it seems to be the case we can confirm that.

[@danielle78730]

you're friggin' AMAZING!!! have noticed your congestion in the recent vids and hope you get to feeling better soon. PS - i honestly don't know where i'd learn this sorta science if it weren't for you…so, please take good care of yourself!

[@joecausey8508]

I noticed he sounded rather nasal.

[@TheRadischen]

Nice video Anton

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Time lapse shots of radio telescopes is always like, “Look over there! What? Never mind, you missed it.”

[@jeffbenton6183]

I'm probably going to be reminded of this everything I see one of those time-lapses from now on.

[@stuartl7761]

Going in I was thinking 'confirmed is a strong word', but hot damn, that's really close to proper confirmation!

[@hydropotamis]

You're wonderful Anton!

[@michaelccopelandsr7120]

Thank you, Anton

[@jasonlow6943]

Thanks Anton for another informative video😊

[@stevenkarnisky411]

Outstanding! In the brief decades humans have been able to measure the orbits of our central galactic stars, we have gotten good enough to discover black holes, if only indirectly. Thank you for featuring this study, Anton!

[@ro4eva]

They creep me out. They also fascinate me.

[@arctic_haze]

We are definitely moving towards understanding the origins or galaxies, massive black holes and globular nebulae. I think we already have some crucial data,the "corner pieces"of the puzzle.

[@Tintintanabulation]

Every new bit of information makes modern cosmological experts say "We didn't expect THAT!" So, no, they haven't learned anything new because they refuse to even consider that THEIR theories are lacking.

[@RisetoStrength]

​@@Tintintanabulation Anyone that says this doesn't understand science.

[@Tintintanabulation]

@@RisetoStrength What?

[@arctic_haze]

@@Tintintanabulation I would advice not to believe in all the media titles "Scientists stunned by...". This is only clickbait. Real scientists always try to find new hypotheses. No one makes career by confirming old ones.

[@Tintintanabulation]

@@arctic_haze Um, their own titles use those terms. Lots of scientific research papers ADMIT that the new information does NOT reflect what their theories would predict. Do you not read any new studies?

[@ps4shotsgaming528]

Hello wonderful Anton , Legend mate.

[@SamtheIrishexan]

Black holes merging of a certain size must have a spectacular effect we dont know about yet when they collide.

[@ro4eva]

Yeah I pray we're never near any when they collide.

[@ReinReads]

We are just in the infancy of gravitational wave detection. As new observatories come online over the next few decades we will expand our detection range.

[@Duendito]

It takes a long time for them to finally merge.

[@robjohns5806]

Theory on Anti-Neutron Stars and High-Energy Quasars- I propose that some quasars exhibiting unusually high levels of gamma radiation could be explained by the presence of anti-neutron stars rather than traditional supermassive black holes. In this model, the high-energy gamma rays observed are due to matter falling onto an anti-neutron star, where it interacts with antimatter. This interaction would lead to matter-antimatter annihilation, producing intense gamma radiation.The accretion disk around such an anti-neutron star would produce thermal radiation similar to that observed in typical quasars. However, the unique high-energy gamma emissions could be a result of annihilation processes. This hypothesis aims to address cases where traditional black hole models fall short in explaining the extreme gamma-ray outputs. Further observational and theoretical investigation could determine if this model provides a viable explanation for these high-energy phenomena.

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

"This interaction would lead to matter-antimatter annihilation, producing intense gamma radiation." That should produce gamma radiation only of a _very_ specific frequency, i. e. a rather narrow spectral line. That is _not_ what is actually observed.

[@yvonnemiezis5199]

Very interesting information, nice presentation, thanks 👍😊

[@jim.franklin]

Thanks Anton, another brilliantly informative video. Thats my morning done now finding and reading the discovery papers. It would be great to work out the orbital decay of these FCCs as this would provide a clue as to the speed at which Sag A* absorbs these smaller objects. It would also be good to find out how often the FCCs collide and grow as this could also explain why some galaxies show multiple supermassive BHs in their central regions.

[@paradoxical5]

I give this one a like without watching just for the thumbnail. Finally Anton looks kinda happy. 🙂

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

I was looking at one with a telescope one day and could swear it was trying to suck my eyeball out of it's socket!!!😅

[@VicEvoX]

Wonder how research like this will be affected by the loss of the current x-ray telescope. Seeing how there are no current plans to send a replacement out there...😕

[@brycefelperin]

It's going to suck finding black holes when they close down the Chandra observatory.

[@ThermalSpace]

I love this channel

[@blobrana8515]

Incredible indeed

[@stewartmartin7376]

this could have implications on the earlier universe in the physics of the density of the gas in the early remark and how that created black holes and created stars so on and so forth. Cool.

[@andrewepp6763]

How long does it take the stars closest to the black hole to orbit around it? In the time lapses they look like they are just flying around

[@sleepermanmaximus]

Thankyou!

[@MCsCreations]

Fascinating!

[@ro4eva]

Exactly!

[@philochristos]

That's wonderful! We can't have too many black holes!

[@Reallycoolguy1369]

It was just a couple of years ago that we were wondering if there were even any intermediate mass black holes at all

[@Daniel-yj3ju]

Nice work, the seyfert hypothesis sounds plausible

[@rogerdudra178]

Greetings from the BIG SKY of Montana. It's hot here today.

[@douglaswilkinson5700]

It's 67° on the SoCal coast.

[@rogerdudra178]

@@douglaswilkinson5700 Greetings from the Big Sky of Montana.! Now us when that cool sea breeze is great.

[@Azaleus19]

And my sense of existential terror intensifies! 😭

[@brianmcguinness9642]

This is a really cool discovery.

[@williamwilkins8037]

Forget the 3 body problem 🤯 how does all those stars pretty much randomly orbiting this intermediate mass black hole work, just trying to imagine it 😵‍💫

[@MrBigdaddy2ya]

Wonder if black holes can work in tandem to attract more material from certain regions. If a intermediate black hole is near a super massive bh perhaps the gravitational pull is amplified in the direction the black holes are alligned similar to the lensing affect. So if this is so and black holes can act instinctual, knowing what step is needed next to complete a process, then perhaps these tandem black holes wre not accidental but a formation needed to make a black hole feed more efficiently and in a order of material that is needed to produce a particular process.

[@kristjiannne]

It’s a very interesting subject, and I like your hairstyle.

[@joe2mercs]

The more data we uncover the more it appears that there is a predominance of dark matter and black holes with the visible universe, in contrast, being the minor fraction.

[@tinytimbaland4338]

So some property of the supermassive accretion disk creates over densities that collapse into intermediate mass or something about the interaction between the disks of them both

[@Gavin-hg2kk]

I am so so sorry for your loss , i am a father Anton of 4 kiddos , i can't imagine. You have a good heart,

[@lensymonds1327]

Anton, you sound as if you have a cold or the dreaded COVID. Hopefully it’s just a weak virus. Thank you for keeping us entertained with all the interesting information you give us.

[@arnokosterman231]

Good morning 😍🥰😍 no mistery🥰🌹 🐒🌀

[@arnokosterman231]

Without graventational countering and the diamagneticle inclosmends of the meta behavieures as the black holes there would not be a behavieure that we recordnice as blackhole behavieures in existance 🥰🐜

[@arnokosterman231]

Helio is olso black hole behavieures If the infiormental behavieures of the memory's and the interaction ophone external demand was not there for the jws our other opservertorys to interact with for its behavioral chainces for us to reseave diverentionals in to mashermends it would not be able to records and translate wat we sees as.......... than it would be blinded and expected every where onley gray😅♟️🐜

[@arnokosterman231]

Parenting Conditions towart poseble graventational countering and diamagneticle containment is the creatie of the posebiletys for that dimension to behave as a black hole

[@AlexKnauth]

What's going on with the Final Parsec Problem with mechanisms for actually getting them to merge at the center?

[@olliverklozov2789]

that's a 2 body math problem, with 3 or more objects all hell breaks loose as a nudge is all they need

[@anaryl]

Giga-spacewurms!

[@lauravillanueva2175]

Well explained Video. You continue to raise the interest of your audience members and for that.. Absolute Gratitude. Be Well.” : LEv

[@NanoMayTry]

Hard to imagine there is more than one black hole in the center of the Milky Way. The immensity of space is always overwhelming.

[@errorerror8700]

Relativly small black holes swirling around tge galaxy and interacting...thats my mind-boggler of the day. Thx for that Information.

[@herpederpe4320]

It seems all our dwarf galaxies contain them

[@trebell885]

Region's of space. Like ocean currents

[@jims6450]

+These Black Holes are the most fascinating things. One thing I always wonder about them is if they are perfectly spherical or more likely something weirder than I can imagine. I can't imagine them being perfect, but that's the way they're always portrayed in CGI.

[@Deletirium]

My understanding is they're perfectly spherical and smooth, for all practical purposes. Hawking radiation is sometimes talked about as "hair" for the black holes, but the actual event horizon is perfectly uniform. If we think about how gravity works, it would have to be. Assuming they really do have point singularities, and not say, ring singularities, gravity would be uniform and spherical radiating out from the center, ensuring a perfect sphere.

[@jims6450]

@@DeletiriumFair enough. What happens when two black holes collide? Is the lesser one just sucked up like a ping pong ball by a shop vac??

[@dennisestenson7820]

Real black holes spin. The spin flattens the event horizon along the poles. So, no it's not perfectly spherical.

[@kylelochlann5053]

A dead black hole is a perfect sphere, a rotating black hole has an event horizon that's a topological sphere. The geometry of the horizon will depend on your choice of coordinates.

[@kylelochlann5053]

@@dennisestenson7820 The horizon is a perfect sphere in Boyer-Lindquist coordinates, r_H=m+(m^2-a^2)^{1/2}, which is the equation of a sphere, though the horizon is not spherical in other coordinates, e.g. Kerr-Schild.

[@yomogami4561]

boy when it rains it pours thanks anton for the update i wonder if the event horizon telescope or jwst could pick up hints or an image

[@oneeyejack2]

Let's suppose galaxies are the result of a long history of multiple merging of smaller galaxies.. we can suppose than all of them had one or more black holes in their center... maybe the merging of two galaxies wouldn't result systematically in the merging of the black holes.. It seems difficult for black holes to just happen to go into each other when two galaxies with various movements merge.. they need some interactions with somethings (the gas and stars in the center region) to slow down relatively to each other and align into a collision trajectory. if the black holes don't merge, they would accumulate in a sort of dynamic group of black holes of various sizes in the middle of each galaxies (and they would occasionally merge but much slower than their host galaxies)... so maybe galaxies all have a sort of "nucleus" of gas and black holes

[@captain-k4dd]

By the time that light reached us, these two probably have collided. You could say we're screwed but we don't know it yet.

[@ledurgenburn703]

You sound a bit stuffy, if your getting sick take some time off, as always man you are a wonderful person and your videos are great

[@danncorbit3623]

I wonder if a huge black hole can form straight from hydrogen. For instance, a large collection of hydrogen can form a small star that lasts a very long time. A titanic cloud of gas can form a huge blue giant star that burns super bright and does not last as long. But suppose that there was a super-huge cloud of relatively dense hydrogen, a thousand times bigger than the cloud that makes a blue supergiant. Could it go straight to a black hole? Or alternatively, what about a giant cloud of hydrogen that has a small black hole in the middle. Could that form an intermediate black hole? Maybe they are made by a process we never imagined.

[@hemaccabe4292]

In galactic centers, star density is a lot higher. All sorts of funny things can happen.

[@Mrcake0103]

For so long we struggled to find _any_ And already we now have more than one.

[@Abyss-Will]

The tear behind Anton is getting bigger every episode lol It's driving me insane, I keep thinking my monitor is dirty.

[@axle.student]

Need a bit of green patch over it lol

[@vamps1385]

that makes alot of sence

[@mittkandyroer]

hello anton, this is person.

[@daleb5967]

If we are a barred spiral, there should be some multiple huge barycenter masses to create the mass of the bars

[@firoshsaris1251]

Hi mate, can you cover dark oxygen please?!

[@martinmartinii9097]

I'm waiting for the day to see the title "We found out that actually we have been in the super duper massive black hole all along"

[@ronnyseres7600]

Could the existence of intermediate mass black holes in these areas lend to a potential solution for the final parsec problem?

[@mdarian]

Quick question, probably not simple answer: The clouds themselves, how many solar masses are they? Not the black holes that seem to be binding them together, but the clouds themselves. Is there an estimate of this? If , for example, an intermediate black hole has a mass of 10,000 stars. How much additional mass is the cloud around it? This is important as it shows the potential growth of the intermediate black hole when it has absorbed the rest of the cloud, which would then also add to our central black hole eventually. It would make a big difference if the cloud was heavier than the IBH, as opposed to only (guessing here) 10% of the mass of the black hole it is around. With enough data, the mechanics of the spin itself could tell us that. Or, by measuring the increasing opacity of the cloud, and its diameter, with a few estimates of the thickness vs opacity ration of a cloud, this should allow us to make a reasonable estimate. Hope that makes sense. It would be an indicator of how big Sag A* could get in the distant future. Also applicable elsewhere to refine the mass estimates of distant galaxies.

[@elinope4745]

In the distant future Sagittarius A will merge with the super massive black hole central to Andromeda, which is likely of greater mass than Sagittarius A is.

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

@@elinope4745 The supermassive black hole in Andromeda has a mass of about 140 million solar masses, so yes, it is indedd _much_ greater than Sagittarius A*.

[@Baughbe]

Probably nothing to worry about for some tens to hundreds of thousands of year at least.... but exactly how close was that intermediate black hole to Sag A*, and is it heading in for a splashdown in so many orbits?

[@daleb5967]

I can't wait till they find a few more and map this out....

[@douginorlando6260]

32000 solar mass black hole orbiting 0.1 light years away from the mother of all black holes. When will it get absorbed?

[@mk1st]

THAT will be a show!

[@BrenandiBal]

That’s terrifying that the Sag A star is practically Touching an intermediate bh that could make it AGN (go supersayain) AGaiN.

[@SynthwaveDuck]

Anton there is something behind you that looks like a tear in your bluescreen. It looks like bad pixels on our end. Please correct. Thank you

[@SynthwaveDuck]

Several inches to the left of your left ear

[@johnrickard8512]

And they say magic doesnt exist in this universe. Frankly, just because we know how it works does not mean it isnt magic. I mean a giant black hole with balls of plasma many AU across being flung around like boomerangs, many with black holes of thir own is an object whose scale and power are simply off the charts compared to anything in our fiction!

[@Hatin.ontonio]

I was here 🙏🏾

[@selectthedead]

Quick question as Anton mention X-ray emission, could NASA reactivate Chandra teleskope, or is it lost out there?

[@mollymorrison4094]

what does the model of a head-on collision of a smaller black hole into a much more massive one show? does it cause “damage” outside the horizon? how does the expansion of the horizon associated with mass interact with the fallout thereof?

[@herpederpe4320]

Check out these wikipedia articles: *_"Rotating black hole"_* and *_"Spin-flip"._* Also see *_gravitational waves_*

[@williamshoff8289]

Got a question for you Anton. Have you heard of a star passing through The Oort cloud in about a hundred years. I saw something about this a few months ago. If so let me know please.

[@NancyRode-u9i]

🙋‍♀️anton

[@Steve-Richter]

Why has it taken the life of our galaxy for all of this activity to take place?

[@JoeH-f1e]

Can our gravitational wave detectors detect mergers of super and intermediate black holes?

[@commerce-usa]

We've crashed through a number of other galaxies over time, could it have come from one of the smaller ones we passed through and it hitched a ride?

[@ShootingStarfromTheMoreYouKnow]

I wonder how much bigger Sag. A* would have to be for us to start falling into it?

[@Yutani_Crayven]

Why did it take so long to find it? The center of star clusters seem like such an obvious place to look, and we've observed those with decent telescopes for almost 100 years. The same goes for the center of galaxies -- it's well known that heavier stars tend to fall toward the center due to tidal interactions, because larger masses tend to shed momentum onto lighter passersby, flinging them out and thus themselves sinking toward the center. I get that the galactic center is heavily obscured. But why did it take so long for people to take a good look at clusters???

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

Simple answer: Our telescopes were _not_ decent enough for examining the _centers_ of dense star clusters. And the _galactic_ center only could be observed with the advent of _infrared_ telescopes.

[@DelfinoGarza77]

Wow !!! I didnt think there were anymore unbroken doritos in this bag.

[@peterlaurie1247]

Can't help thinking that some of these companion black holes might get sling-shotted out of the galactic centre and if so they should leave a visible trail of destruction. Also, is Anton an avatar or just a real person with encyclopedic knowledge?

[@michaeljames5936]

Is it possible for a black hole to rotate so its poles were aimed through the disc of its galaxy. You'd have, like really huge space signs, 'Do Not Feed The Black Hole'.

[@jacque1331]

I'm feeling a bit depressed knowing that we might just find a black hole anywhere.

[@philiphumphrey1548]

So when one of these intermediates black holes drops into the central hole right on our doorstep, how badly do we get shaken by the gravity waves? Would we notice anything?

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

No. Gravitational waves at that distance are much too weak to be noticeable without _very_ sensitive instruments.

[@keeganimhoff]

I am a creation guy, and I love how unbiased Anton is. I watch almost every night.

[@aac74]

Is there a mark on your lens or green screen?

[@MrVontar]

If you think of spacetime, by definition, all of space is constantly combining. This is because all mass will eventually distort around an object that will eventually combine with another object. Now luckily if space is big enough and diffuse just perfectly, you will just end up going in circles lol.

[@MrVontar]

On the downside, if it isn't just diffuse enough, eventually, you will end up going inside a black hole. However, if all of space has been designed perfectly then that may never happen because the orbits will always stay constant which seems to be the case. So that's good, right

[@MrVontar]

As an aside, I thought I heard of black holes there were billions of solar masses. So how is an imbh only like 25k solar masses? Idk if I have been reading garbage or people have decided to change how reality was defined. In either case, I never know what is going on anymore

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

"by definition, all of space is constantly combining." ??? What is that supposed to mean? And what is it supposed to mean that space "diffuses"?

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

@@MrVontar Supermassive black holes range from some millions to some billions solar masses. Anything below that, but above about 100 solar masses, is called "intermediate".

[@MrVontar]

@bjornfeuerbacher5514 combining as in gravity is drawing them together, as they combine then they actually spread space apart. It is like if you have a whole bunch of galaxies that orbit each other, there is likely one that is bigger than the others that they are mainly orbiting. In the same way, space is orbiting around SMBH, it is just the curvature of space has reached a density level where it appears like it is expanding infinitely. This is why outer rings have relatively constant velocities and defy the expected curvature, they are actually receiving a speed boost from the curvature of spacetime itself which does not technically have a mass. This is why they cannot find dark matter lol

[@taraswertelecki3786]

Is this intermediate mass black hole close to the supermassive black hole in the center of the Milky Way? Over time, could gravitational "kicks" between this intermediate mass black hole and everything else nearby eventually send it on a collision course with the supermassive back hole?

[@bjornfeuerbacher5514]

"Is this intermediate mass black hole close to the supermassive black hole in the center of the Milky Way?" Err, yes, that's what Anton said in the video...?

[@timbrown9305]

Does this change the percentage of matter vs dark matter?