Another thing the Pioneer DJ XDJ-XZ can't do that the Denon DJ PRIME 4 can

In this video I will show you another thing the Pioneer XDJ-XZ can't do that the denon DJ prime 4 can.

[@TheodorRauta]

As a club dj with 12 years experience I can say that I tried a lot of gear and software. I went from Traktor to Rekordbox (controller and Pioneer players, even the 3000s) and recently started playing on Denon players. The options for manipulating my music are incredible on Denon, from beat jumps, cue points, loops and even editing the grid, everything is fast and precise. Also, when I don't have the time to download and sort music, I just make a quick Tidal playlist on my phone and I have it available on the players as soon as I turn them on. This is really some nest level stuff for me. One more thing to end this comment: Crates > Playlists. For people who don't know how crates differ from playlists, I really recommend looking into this.

[@SUNDREEN]

How it the sound quality on denon vs pioneer ?

[@SkeleMusic]

@@SUNDREEN same same

[@hyperfocus4866]

@@SUNDREEN Iv'e been told by a sound engineer that Denon is far superior.

[@lilmancrazy1]

​@hyperfocus4866 is far superior? No chance. High, quality audio components aren't cheap. That's why high end headphones are expensive. There is a zero % chance denon is far superior. As ma matter fact I doubt it's any better as far as audio goes. It doesn't make logical sense for something cheaper to be higher quality in audio

[@toadscrote123321]

Switched to Denon a couple years ago and have never looked back. Had a Prime 4 and now moved on to a pair of SC6000. Absolutely love them

[@kwangungucarreira3116]

I've just recently switched to Denon, and I like it way more than Pioneer. I hope clubs start putting Denon in their setups. Thanks for the vid.

[@MrThomAce]

This is soooo cool. And the similar situation by the way applied to Prime 2. And some people asked me why I'm chosen P2 instead or RX2 or RR...) Very nice video. I love it. Keep up the good work! I'm going to add your ch to my recommendations on my ch if you don't mind.

[@brandonsealey4511]

Denon needs to work on the jog wheels, mixer sections and FX. I say this as a Prime 4 owner for about a year.

[@arthureschner9319]

Agreed, the jog wheels on the P4 aren't the best, but they do the job. The effects aren't too bad, just needs more beat options (imo) - ie: 16, 24, 32 etc...

[@louminati4318]

@@arthureschner9319 Agree. Denon prime 4 was great apart from the jog wheels. I've gone back to the Pioneer RX2.

[@souljah45]

Denon Prime series are amazing. I own the Prime Go & the prime 4. I will always be a Denon fanboy 🙌

[@djdale.5806]

I use a Prime 4 in a club and love it! All I want now is motorised platters then it’s perfection.

[@FWBeck]

Without analysis upon load the Prime 4 wouldn't be able to provide the Music Streaming services. Makes sense that it would analyze any music from any source. But disappointing that the Rekordbox embedded can't do that though; i haven't used any Pioneer software but Serato, DJAY, VDJ all analyze music upon load, and not having it on my Standalone would be a deal breaker as this makes it perfect for open format.

[@taneltolsting2900]

And that was a recordbox music file inside engine, not even engine's file. Great!

[@prodj.mixapeofficial6431]

Definition of all in one

[@djvoid1]

Don't forget being able to beat jump more than 8 bars at a time... y'know like Traktor has been able to do for about 15 years

[@jplatt83]

Or just tap the touch screen or fast forward button?

[@ntonioproductions1591]

That's such a minor detail and quite useless if you have your cues set up

[@djvoid1]

@@ntonioproductions1591 It's annoying AF if you rely on extending and shortening sections on the fly when mixing. Yeah, I could totally set up cues ahead of time... or I could improvise which is more fun IMO

[@djvoid1]

@@jplatt83 The point of beat jump is you can keep the tracks in sync while moving around in the track. Fast forward or needle jump doesn't do that

[@jplatt83]

@@djvoid1 good point I did not know that

[@jemmanuellrt]

Wow! Denon is impressive!

[@EricBishard]

I don't play anything that has not been exported from recordbox, say what you like about that, but I do see the benefit of this and it's unfortunate that XDJ-XZ does not do this with its built in software. But again just not something that is going to bother me, but I get it.

[@giantfightingrobotsounds]

And yet again, Denon absolutely SLAYS Pioneer

[@Karmapowermusic]

Thanks !! I was planing to buy a Pioneer CD players with a Xone 96 mixer but every single of your videos confirms to me that I should go with Denon Equipment !! I might be getting the SC6000 instead of the CDJ 2000NXS What are your thoughts ?

[@TheDJLab]

Honestly depends what the goal is. Cdj for clubs..or you djing at home and taking your gear out.

[@dagee4772]

Stick to Pioneer if you want to dj anywhere outside. Denon can try and tackle the market but its losing....

[@irishpaddy555]

I have this setup… its ace…. 👌

[@mortovivo1534]

I started with a PX5 for my SC5000 and just switched to a x1850 and it’s way better. Thought I needed analog but I actually had to keep an Analog Heat on my fx return to boost the digital tracks from sounding flat. With the Denon mixer it sounds great without. Anyone want to buy a PX5? 😂

[@tyasspage]

I'm actually gonna convert to denon

[@wheelmanvicful]

How you change waves on the screen?on the denon prime 4..I just got mines and I'm learning alot from it

[@TheDJLab]

Shift and view button

[@DJLyncho]

My mixstream pro can do it too. 😁☺️

[@bogdanalexandru4463]

Your Mixstream and Denon are part of the same company.

[@DJLyncho]

@@bogdanalexandru4463 yep I love mine ☺️

[@Cyl3d-Official]

Ive had the prime 4+ 2 month at 4 gigs and at 2 of them, the software just crashed or my Library jumped back and forth..... Gave it back and got an A&H xone 96 + 2 sc600 Prime - fk this standalone shit.

[@razyel93]

That is a great idea, some of the guys that I play with don't always analyze the tracks in rekordbox and the CDJ 3000 takes ages to show the track. I hope this works with 3000.

[@JessieSpinRamos]

bcoz of onboard analysis that deon has

[@marlenastar3109]

Pitolisz to samo do analizy potrzebuje P4 :)

[@djkram1966]

That is cool what you showed all of us! I have a few 4 and 5 Terabytes drives , if only I could find the correct way to add my entire library to a 5 TB drive. Can you share a link with how you partition your drive, and how you format it to FAT32?

[@itsXZY]

Any youtube tutorial for format fat32 would do.

[@djstretchtone9851]

@@itsXZY Thanks for replying. I've tried some online articles and KZbin videos. What I'm also trying to do is figure out a way to partition a 8 Terabyte drive into 2 Terabyte partitions. One of my 8 Terabyte drives is now stuck with the FAT32 format. I'm trying to find a good link to unformat then create partitions and reformat and so forth. I've read that the largest I can format for FAT32 is 2 TB. My luck with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stuff has not been the most solid connection. I like to have at least one portable backup of my music library - in addition to two other forms of backup.

[@arthureschner9319]

And... just wait. Coming very soon.... you're gonna be able to adjust the beat grid on the unit itself!! No computer needed at all!

[@irishpaddy555]

You can do this already on the sc6000.

[@arthureschner9319]

@@irishpaddy555 Currently all you can do is shift the grid left / right. But what's on it's way is the ability to completely adjust / change the grid / bpm of the track. If you think it's good now, you gonna be blown away once the update is released.

[@carlosjoe5154]

@@arthureschner9319 woah wait, ist this going to ne implemented? :O Pls send the Forum link

[@arthureschner9319]

@@carlosjoe5154 I can't send you a forum link. You're gonna have to take my word for it. I was told by a very reliable source, that this is definitely on its way very soon. Just hang in there for the next official update. It's coming!!

[@hardkore360]

the track analyzing on board on the Denon is matched by none other, i.e. IT IS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD! 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@glenbutler1375]

Only it's not. I have never been in any club with denon gear in it.

[@hardkore360]

@@glenbutler1375 and how does that in any conceivable way help track analyzing? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@glenbutler1375]

@@hardkore360 because barely any professionals use denon. There fore it can’t be classified as industry standard if not used by the industry. It has a glut of features. Mainly that appeal to non professional djs.

[@bogdanalexandru4463]

@@glenbutler1375 Denon costs moneys and its not handed over for free to club owners like the standard.

[@glenbutler1375]

@@bogdanalexandru4463 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kennethmalafy8012]

The Prime Four is better than the Pioneer stand alones (all of them) and even the CDJ 3000s. Its faster and more accurate. I have seen them lined up next to each other at a demo, live. The Prime 4 is noticeably faster. That being said, I have the Prime Four and a CDJ set up but I prefer the CDJs- it feels more like two turntables and a mixer to me and that is where I started.

[@ntonioproductions1591]

Faster on what? More accurate on what?

[@kennethmalafy8012]

@@ntonioproductions1591 The load up from the drive until the song was ready in the player, faster on getting a song from a streaming site to be loaded up and gridded and the grid was more accurate on the Prime 4. They were side by side, live. I also think the pitch stretch is better. I never notice the stretch on the Prime 4, I hear it sometimes on my CDJ.

[@TheWesselboy1]

Denon doesnt have live upscaling right? (Upscale bit rate) 3000's does

[@hyperfocus4866]

I reccommend the SC6000s and a x1850. I had the SC5000ms and an X1800 AMAZING pieces of kit, actually made mixing fun again.

[@kevmekti]

Prime go do that too, it’s the engine

[@marlenastar3109]

Pokazuje przeanalizowane na lptopie pod engine utwory ........:)

[@carlosjoe5154]

Denon crippled those fanboys arguments right away, there is No reason to Go Back to Pioneer ever again. When i once turned the Jogwheels of the *legendary* Nexus 3000, i felt emberassed. All Plastic feel without weight to it. The Sc5000 from Denon are Not perfect either, but a Lot better from my perspective, and that for half the price

[@hyperfocus4866]

I had the 5000m, man those motorized platters were something else... You'd never go back to dead jog wheels again.

[@immanuelesimonelli]

Yea it’s for who plays with analyzed tracks. Best way to play is without analyzing. Feel the music

[@eugeniopenoni9969]

E grazie al c...... usi le cartelle e non le playlist in XDJ-XZ, poi è un HDD. And thanks to the c ...... you use folders and not playlists in XDJ-XZ, then it's a HDD.

[@mortovivo1534]

Snoreoneer

[@irishpaddy555]

Even the flagship 3000 cant do that…💩

[@pirvirts]

пионер говно )) у меня первый эрго зависал, рб зависал, 1000 завис прям на выступлении, нумарк не разу не завис( хотя последняя модель у некоторых людей видел проблемы) вестакс и денон тоже...

[@TheDJLab]

English

[@pirvirts]

@@TheDJLaball the pioneer controllers that I had hung up, ergo v, rb, ssb, 1000, veego, the same vestax vci 100 did not freeze more than once, like numark and denon too ... pioneer shit, trash

[@OBDPVCR]

Can't think of a more annoying way to DJ.

[@dannybrown9588]

thing with denon the build quality is crap, i know a few people that have add denon stuff and send it back

[@alanaban3519]

Not the best but good enough / the overall winner is still the Prime 4

[@junyah1976]

all good until denon goes denon

[@sagig860]

I don't think that the pioneer cannot analyze very well I think you have a problem in your pioneer dj controller , don't say that the "pioneer dj controller can't analyzing very well than Denon Prime 4 😊"

[@sagig860]

this is only a problem in your dj controller 😅 , you need to go to a person who is fixing dj equipment or the store you bought this from and i sure that you bought this from store and of course they will to fixing this for you and for sure you got a possibility from the store for 3-4 years fixing possibility

[@sagig860]

when you bought this controller

[@antonjamesmix2440]

I would still buy Pioneer because it will still be working long after denon has fell apart

[@Ipeeinpools-hb9vz]

You're are correct Pioneers are built like a tank! But that's not much coming from something with a display that narrowly edges out an ATM machine and has the computing power of a flip phone.

[@ColeCrush]

I'm still using my Denon DNS 3700's from 2007 never a problem and my numark v7's Soo their is that

[@antonjamesmix2440]

@@ColeCrush I had mcx 8000 never worked Properly from the day I got it then fell apart after a year denon Is a pile of dog shit

[@antonjamesmix2440]

@@Ipeeinpools-hb9vz I had the mcx 8000 The technology was shit the bill quality was shit

[@arthureschner9319]

@@antonjamesmix2440 MCX8000 was a piece of crap! It had ram ic issues (screen freeze), that Denon couldn't publicly acknowledge. Denon lost a lot of support because of that. The Prime series is completely different though. Rock solid!!

[@fabguyver9979]

Pioneer is OVERRATED CRAP

[@jeral10]

denon is to slow because have more details!!!

[@tomjamesynwa]

Anyone that does things properly always analyses their files in software before loading them into any player. More times than I care to remember beat grids are wrong. The fact a player can "analyse" songs to me is irrelevant if you are doing a properly job with your music first. Same with streaming services, if you are doing the job properly you want to down the file and properly analyse it. So again streaming services are a gimmick.

[@Ipeeinpools-hb9vz]

I wholeheartedly disagree, I can stream entire pre-made sets on my Prime 4 comprised of tracks I do not own. I can play requests, search and find off the wall re-mixes as I play (as long as there's WIFI) as well as any DJ can walk up drop their USB in and play on a prime without worrying about what software you're analyzed to. And if the beat grid is off you can adjust it as the track is playing regardless if its streaming or analyzed though Engine.

[@tomjamesynwa]

@@Ipeeinpools-hb9vz great argument well put. I see the point as a mobile DJ with a massive astrix ***as long as there's WIFI!

[@DaDudeClub]

Agree that normally you should prepare your sets anyway. However, in terms of functionality for a working DJ, Pio is like two decades behind. Not only that I can stream pretty much any request, if any other DJ (or not) comes w an unprepared USb stick, with pretty much any music file format, Denon will read it, play it even before is fully loaded and fully analyse it in a matter of seconds. Beatgrid edit on the fly if needed, 8 cue points + 8 loops on the pads, beatjump and, yeah, add DMX lights control on the fly as well and you get the picture. And I didn't even touch on the subject of price. But yeah, if you prepare your sets well, you can be amazing on a 80s turntable.

[@arthureschner9319]

@Tom James On device beat grid editing is on the way. If it analyses it wrong, you simply correct it. It will have a tap bpm, expand / contract grid & direct bpm input options directly on all the Prime devices. Game changer of note!!

[@irishpaddy555]

Nonsense…. Pioneer users have just got into this habbit as the players cant do sh1te other than play music… if this feature was available years ago there would be no need for programs like recordbox.

[@thecodcommunityisruined8128]

Doesn't make up for the build quality, denon is still dogwater sorry bois keep huffing that copium