Another Week... Another Multi-Billion Dollar Fraud (Allegedly)

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2022 was the worst year for financial fraud ever, we are now three months into 2023 and it’s shaping up to be another record breaker.
Jack Dorsey is best known as the founder of Twitter, a company that only made a profit in two years after he had already sold most of his shares but it still made him over a three billion dollars after including the money he made from his remaining shares that got sold to Musk.
Dorsey also made two point nine million dollars by selling an NFT of his first ever tweet to some idiot on the internet that thought it was a good investment, the same NFT was put up for auction early last year hoping to fetch forty-eight million dollars under the hammer… The auction ended with a top bid of just two hundred and eighty dollars a loss of 99.9903%
Other investors in Dorsey’s world changing technologies might not be so lucky. Last week Hindenburg research a firm that makes money by shorting companies that are operating fraudulently and then releasing reports outlining their fraud took aim at Dorsey and his latest businesses.
Fresh of the back of their scathing Adani report that led to the companies of Asia’s richest man losing over a hundred billion dollars in market cap, Hindenburg released a similar report about Dorsey’s new company Block.
Block Inc. formerly Square is a financial technology conglomerate that owns companies you will all be familiar with.
Square, is an easy to use payment processing and banking software for small businesses, Tidal is a music streaming service founded by rapper Jay-Z which was acquired by Block in 2021 for three hundred million dollars and Cash App, a mobile payment service that lets users send and receive money, trade stocks, and invest into crypto without actually being part of the banking system at all.
Block Inc. had a market cap of over one hundred billion dollars in 2021 so it was actually worth significantly more than twitter even at the inflated price that Musk paid for it. Today it is worth 60% less than it’s all time peak and Hindenburg is arguing that it will fall by a further 65% to 100% because of the flaws in the business.
The Hindenburg report is seventeen thousand words long, I have gone ahead and read so you don’t have to, but it outlines how Block has been systematically defrauding their customers, investors and authorities.
Investors love user growth because having more people using a networked platform exponentially makes that platform more valuable. Since Cash Apps main feature is being able to send money directly to other cash app users it’s value as a service increases with every new user it has.
Other network companies like Facebook, Uber and Twitter spend a lot of resources acquiring new users because Uber is only valuable as a rider if you can find a driver and visa versa, Facebook is only valuable if people can connect with their friends on it, and twitter is only valuable because some billionaire edge lord got forced to buy it by the SEC.
Ok that last one is a little bit different, but investors in companies building a network are willing to pay a lot of money for user growth even if it means the business is not profitable while they are doing it.
Cash App claimed to it’s investors that it had eighty million active users that had made at least one transaction in the last year, that would be roughly 25% of all people in the markets they operated in.
Fintech companies make much more money from each individual user than a social media sites so eighty million users and growing is a very impressive result for a service that has been around for less than ten years.
Hindenburg’s however had heard rumours from company employees that people were making duplicate accounts for themselves with some individuals having hundreds of cash app accounts.
Former employees estimated that 40%-75% of accounts were fake, involved in fraud, or were additional accounts tied to a single actual individual.
Security and verification is often one of the first casualties when building an app around ease of use but this becomes a real problem for Cash App, it’s investors and the authorities when Hindenburg revealed WHY people were making so many accounts, and here’s a hint, it wasn’t to inflate user metrics for investors.
So it’s time to learn How Money Works

[@alecbarrett3963]

Whenever a company is described as “not technically a bank,” you should run

[@nasis18]

Regular banks are bad enough.

[@davidjma7226]

Yes, it means it is not regulated and your deposits are at risk - as per FTX - despite what they promise you!

[@Wyrdn3ss]

@keithsze001 Guess how well that's going for banks now, SVB, Credit Suisse, DB etc... The whole of finance is the problem.

[@Xrl8r]

All problems lie in unregulated capitalism.

[@willdehne1]

I was dealing with Merrill Lynch prior to 2007. Their Financial advisers presented ML as a bank. I tried to have my German Social Security transferred to the Money Fund of ML. The German financial people refused saying ML was no bank. I had no idea what that meant. After 2008 I found out. ML was an Investment Bank with little or no oversight by regulators. ML was forced to sell themselves to Bank of America to stay in business. I got lucky that I did not lose all my investments. Cancel Reply

[@brainerjames]

This leads to the question...how does Hindenburg benefit from this researches coz I really doubt it's out of good will

[@Marqan]

This bank* sounds perfectly legal* to me.

[@yehtan]

When Hindenburg is ready to cash out, it will do a story on itself.

[@GiangNguyen-xf6bx]

lol

[@Mankorra_Gomorrah]

“We’ve been making shit up those whole time and you all believed us because you’re too lazy to do your own research.”

[@adissentingopinion848]

They're gonna short themselves and somehow cash in on a algorithmic kneejerk reaction to their own hitpiece on themselves. It's how I would go down if I could.

[@dukequack6209]

They usually have good reports. But this one on Block was lame af. Legit "there might be some fraud on the amount of vendors" & young people are able to make whatever username they want to trick people to send them money. LOL

[@brandonburns5365]

​@@dukequack6209 it's obvious you don't own a business. The scam honestly isn't with cash app and with the block payment system

[@stevel.3903]

Hindenburg research is building up trust fast. I wonder how long it will take until they fall flat with a release.

[@jakeroper1096]

Honestly out of all their reports this one makes me want to buy SQ. Soo you’re saying they are already so popular in pop culture and the underground they get rapped about? .. sounds like a real marketing nightmare

[@mattyfatstaxs]

Hahaha

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq67]

​@@jakeroper1096 if they are so popular why do they fake their user numbers?

[@exeggcutertimur6091]

Hindenburg has a great track record of reporting on companies that go up in a huge ball of flames as soon as their report hits the ground. Oh, the humanity.

[@jakeroper1096]

@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq67 As long as they disclose how they count their users and are consistent then I don’t really see a problem. If they broke some KYC laws then they should be reprimanded, but as long as the avg $ per user is calculated with the same consistent “fake” number then mathematically the books are balanced.

[@_TeaMaster]

2022 was the worst year for financial fraud YET.

[@TrollOfReason]

Oh, I bet. There's still hundreds of billions USD still sloshing around in the crypto financial sphere. That much money doing absolutely nothing of true value surrounded by desperate illiteracy is going to go *somewhere, somehow.*

[@radkovicbe]

Eh, arguably in the USA and India. But there’s 192 (give or take) other countries, and the same thing has happened before many, many times. And will definitely happen again. 2022 is definitely the year with the loudest

[@MaulikParmar210]

Just another 3 decade of transition of power, money, and social bias - look at the history. these periods are usually the worst and set pre cursor for the next cycle.

[@BusinessWolf1]

No. But no one remembers what happened when stocks were a new, unregulated thing.

[@TheVirtualObserver]

🤔😅

[@lukemorgan6166]

With enough lawyers, anything is legal All businesses are out to screw you out of your money

[@oceanbytez847]

not all of them. Just super big corpos. Local businesses are sane, but rare as fuck because people do not support them anymore.

[@ahumandoing6813]

@@oceanbytez847 small business owners can be just as greedy. You just don't hear about them often because they're small fish.

[@jaiveersingh4981]

Correction: Square/Block doesn't own Stripe, they are entirely separate companies 10:37

[@HowMoneyWorks]

You are 100% correct, Stripe is a competitor of Blocks payment processor Square. Thanks for noticing that error.

[@ampragea-lister6209]

@@jahjoeka shut

[@raxia]

@@jahjoeka shut

[@krasinmarinov]

​@@jahjoeka shut

[@Twangaming]

@@jahjoekashut

[@Someb0dy1Day]

Too many smoothbrains in the comment section, the fact that this company makes billions alone through Square justifies the share price, short-term noise and hindenberg trying to make a quick buck. Next.

[@ChristopherBroomeBalt]

Suddenly, the stabbing death of Cash App founder Rob Lee this week is looking a lot more suspicious....

[@alexandervowles3518]

Fr

[@serenasmith2859]

My portfolio has good companies, however it has been stalling this year. I’ve approximately $700k stagnant in my reserve that needs growth, any suggestions to grow my portfolio will be highly appreciated.

[@jamesharrison6569]

The market is volatile at this time, hence i will suggest you get yourself a financial-advisor that can provide you with entry and exit points on the shares/ETF you focus on.

[@crantorbuttons4378]

@Jane Viella wow ,that’s stirring! Do you mind connecting me to your advisor please. I desperately need one to diversified my portfolio.

[@crantorbuttons4378]

Thanks, I merely looked her up on Google and was highly impressed by her credentials; I got in touch with her because I need all the help I can get. I just set up a phone call.

[@realomegamodern]

Scam

[@spam1111111]

My condolences to the person who got scammed out of $280

[@ArgumentumAdHominem]

Might actually be worth it. What is somebody is collecting the most epic nft fails

[@frederickhargro5153]

All NFT are a scam. You can’t actually own the original digital art work unless you get the C drive or server it was designed own. Would never invest in one.

[@bigcockedman714]

hey a nigerian scammed me for that exactly amount of btc 3 years ago lol. it was around 0.02 btc smh..

[@jesscorbin5981]

My dad just got scammed with $10k worth of BTC

[@junyaiwase]

i dont think he sold it to them, lol just the highest bid

[@matthewhungerford1861]

as a Canadian I find it crazy you need to use a company to transfer money between banks and friends instead of just sending more from bank to friend or other bank on their app.

[@Zarrx]

Interac is a company though

[@wojtek4p4]

To be fair, you also need to use a company if you want to pay in a store using a credit/debit card, or if you wanna use an ATM - they are managed by separate companies. And (as an European) I imagine you can transfer money to your friends' account by a traditional bank transfer, but from my (Polish) experience they can take a while and require you to use an unwieldy, 24-digit account number.

[@lizardonyoutube]

@@Zarrx interac isn’t just a company, nor a 3rd party per say… they’re literally our debit system lol. All of our ATM’s are interac, and the ease comes from one master company backing everything and being behind it all. Though it does make it difficult when you go to the states with a Canadian debit card

[@lizardonyoutube]

@@wojtek4p4 no, same company lol. Canada has it much easier than most countries for financial ease of use

[@lizardonyoutube]

@@wojtek4p4 traditional bank transfers here are instant and require nothing from the person receiving money lol. You literally open your bank app, hit e-transfer, enter the amount of money you want to send to the email or phone number associated to the bank account, and hit send lol. Voila. Takes under 1 minute and is accepted instantaneously. If the person is old they may have to hit “accept” prior through email/SMS. Very very easy process :)

[@The_Chubb75]

Do you accept cash app for your merch? 😜

[@_abracadabra]

Things just got weirder, given what just happened with the Cash App founder. 🤔

[@Dre2Dee2]

He fucked over the wrong person so they got their payment back in blood 🤫🤫

[@KosmikGawdess]

​@Dre Ruiz no. Has to do with a take over. Do your research

[@texascountry7663]

He is "repordedly" dead. Prison or fake death? Take a brillant dude and make him a informant or slave to the corrupt.

[@CatIsMad]

​@texascountry7663 I mean to be fair you see him die on video and his body goes room temperature before the cops get there.

[@texascountry7663]

@@CatIsMad just sayin, we see him stumble out of view twice.

[@TheDrbono101]

And almost a year later, Hindenburg was wrong. Loaded up on shares between $38-50; a lot of people don’t understand that short reports are often opinion-based, do your own research!

[@Christianmingle420]

The guy who founded Cashapp was stabbed to death in San Francisco yesterday

[@Dre2Dee2]

I prefer "assassinated" but ok, well pretend it was an accident cause its less scary to think about 😂

[@EJD339]

@@Dre2Dee2 Apparently a city fire commissioner was stabbed as well.

[@turtleanton6539]

Hmm

[@bayaholic]

Cash App founder was just stabbed and killed in San Francisco. I think it happened on 4/5/23, a couple of weeks after this video. Looks a bit suspicious after watching this video. Edit: Founders name is Bob Lee. SF Chronicle had a story on the stabbing/murder.

[@ivansolares2448]

*Murdered not killed.

[@drmurrayhillmd]

This video came out on a Friday (3/31) and then he was out late Monday night into Tuesday and was killed around 2-3am Tuesday (4/4). Weird coincidence, huh?

[@ivansolares2448]

*Assassinated, yes very peculiar

[@Bronte6497]

Nope. I work at cash app. He left the company years ago.

[@bernhardlangers778]

2 branches I will never invest in: 1. Banks 2. Insurances 3. Anything pretending to be related to the former.

[@johngaltline9933]

Both of those generally do the best they can within the government regulations that make it a nightmare for them to do business. As in al things, there are bad actors, but the excessive regulation these days makes it so that banks can't loan money to people that can pay it back and have collateral to put up, because it is "predatory lending". and Insurance companies are legally barred from charging rates that reflect the risks involved, encouraging people to build homes in high risk areas with artificially low rates, for example.

[@tomlxyz]

​​@@johngaltline9933 that's bs. The regulations are necessary, some loans shouldn't happen (see 2008) and insurance companies wouldn't blindly provide insurance at too low prices, it's the government bailing out whenever these disasters happen. And with the regulations having loopholes there will be companies exploiting them like cash app

[@spiritakarabbit369]

Wise

[@dracorosso7129]

The FBI should buy CashApp, just to kept tabs on criminals.

[@TippyHippy]

l put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture.

[@Hoonter101]

@@TippyHippy lol

[@twerkingfish4029]

Yeah but the FBI is prolly in on it. I guess that would just make them want it more lol.

[@leonardonetagamer]

No they should not! The FBI needs to keep its massive fucking nose out of peoples business

[@ridhosamudro2199]

​@@TippyHippy just microwave it like a normal person, please

[@_CoachW]

Makes me think of the people behind Square. You start something that helps small business owners and then you get partnered with another business that essentially takes advantage of them.

[@pbaby6813]

The ceo just got stabbed at 3am in downtown SF

[@sheykenasababy]

​@@pbaby6813wow. That actually happened.

[@MelloDeeBeats]

The Cash App founder was just found stabbed to death & this video pops up on my homepage.

[@Nit3Guy]

They deleted that cash app founder Bob Lee and then I see this? Idk if things are connected but man am i exhausted by all this wild news. Y’all be safe now.

[@Dre2Dee2]

You can run, but ya cant hide

[@heyyeshyou]

Fed now is a cash app that will be released soon by the federal reserve right on the heels of this news

[@AwokenEntertainment]

condolences to anybody in the way..

[@raycolmenares6820]

The founder for cash app just got stabbed to death and I watched this video 4 days ago

[@jimmyjamessac7171]

What's going on

[@maxpayne69.]

Same , 2 days for me though

[@MrLogan2600]

Honestly, I’ve followed Hindenburg for a while and they are a very scummy company

[@evansnyamesah1755]

Scam or be scammed 😂😂😂 What a world we live in

[@samsonsoturian6013]

Does this look like India to you?

[@triksters24]

​@@samsonsoturian6013 well, indians are like 3/10 population, soooo

[@1n2333]

@@samsonsoturian6013 Worse than India. You can find fraud almost everywhere in America in every job position available.

[@1n2333]

@@samsonsoturian6013 We're just a little smarter than them

[@mikestaihr5183]

When the words "innovation" , "finance" or "financial" are found in the same sentence, paragraph or even something as long as a James Michener novel you are guaranteed that whatever it is touting is an elite level of criminality........

[@BusinessWolf1]

every scam has already been invented, now they just get new names

[@vanhuvanhuvese2738]

@@BusinessWolf1 very true

[@mikestaihr5183]

@@bill_the_butcher I've actually read most of his long-form novels over the years. It's not a slog if the subject matter interests you and you have a loooonnng attention span. lol

[@robertwilber1909]

nicely said....

[@newchaoz]

Financial + innovation = scam

[@dopamine261]

This video made me realize why a lot of drug dealers accept cash app.

[@leoperez6737]

Why do you know a lot of drug dealers?

[@iamyourpc]

@@leoperez6737 Where else would I get my drugs?

[@daxasd3270]

sus

[@shinjilamperouge6141]

AKA cops

[@boardgameguyboardgameguy9194]

Like the CIA for example?

[@ChocolateMilkCultLeader]

Dorsey is a sketch individual. Sad so many peopl worship him

[@jahjoeka]

Also musk

[@Xi-phar]

Is this why the CEO got stabbed to death?

[@purelyprimecrime]

Can’t tell if this aged well or not?

[@BOBMAN1980]

Bob Lee from Square/Cash App is dead. Stabbed in SF.

[@justinrodriguez3751]

This aged poorly quickly

[@funfungerman8401]

Why what happened?

[@bneskylights1152]

I get your argument about bad people doing bad things, this regulation stops a big chunk of bad thing. But the government and banks should not have as much control over your resources and life as they do.

[@BusinessWolf1]

You can NOT have it both ways. Either you have more safety and less control or more control and less safety. These two are in a direct inverse ratio.

[@bneskylights1152]

@@BusinessWolf1 yes, that is why I said "I get your argument". I understand it, I just disagree.

[@tkraid2575]

True. The government (especially the ones in charge of taxes, ugh) and banks are the lesser evil in this scenario.

[@alexandervowles3518]

Yeah I would prefer this to 100% govt control

[@bneskylights1152]

@@alexandervowles3518 that sounds remarkably like starving to death in your pod because the government forgot you exist

[@tucoramirez9557]

Shallow video. Square have already released 2 documents, to answer most of the points. Their answers make sense, actually. But it's not addressed here at all.

[@Someb0dy1Day]

The lack of evidence in this video is just laughable, let's make some baseless claims with movie clips to really get the audience on our side.

[@Kankooro]

Who's willing to bet that Bob Lee's death has anything to do with this?

[@Dre2Dee2]

"I want my money back OR ELSE" 🤫🤫🤫

[@ritchiedee6210]

weird how the dude who made this app was knifed to death 5 days after you released this video tho.

[@turtleanton6539]

Not a popular guy

[@TheMightyKawama]

I'm starting to wonder if it's a good choice to just open shorts on any software based business at this point, if it isn't a failure its a fraud

[@twlight9000]

The risk is just how long it’ll take for the house of cards to crash

[@billy818]

It's also an industry rampant with morons tbh First job out of uni I took as a software engineer was for a start up with a ceo that legit had no idea what he was talking about. led to some very akward calls where he would butt in with "input" and all the technical staff would just go quiet.

[@joseph_manero]

and now the cashapp founder has been found dead in SF...

[@myloscarbrough9149]

It’d be interesting to see how legitimate online banking apps compare to classic branches, I’m from the uk and have a traditional bank as well as solely digital, a break down of the business models would be interesting to me. Worth noting the online banks I’ve used require photo I’d identification, so hopefully not as sus as cash app

[@avarmauk]

Cash app CEO just got murdered

[@Xerathiel]

Hindenburg Research makes me love shorters. After GME people were really hating shorters not to mention those people that make money by destroying companies...

[@biguattipoptropica]

All the hyper capitalist people badmouthing short sellers are hilarious to me because they’re angry someone is doing capitalism better than them. Hypocrisy and karma.

[@Confucius_Says...]

Shorters.... Keeping the bastards, honest ‼️😂

[@drshlotzkin]

​@Pop Circus How is "shorting" a real thing? Can I sell your home to artificial create more supply than demand to only lower the value.... then just give your home back but I keep the differences. Totally capitalism.

[@brokenphysics6146]

@@drshlotzkin no, because your home is non-fungible. Shorting isn't the problem. Naked shorting is.

[@drshlotzkin]

@@brokenphysics6146 But my physical ownership via stock doesnt represent anything physical or "non-fungible"? If you want to use that word. I could liquidate property pretty quickly or use it as collateral... but that's besides the point. But creating words to mask what youre really doing doesn't change the underlying facts. Then use this to create "legalities" is immoral and a crime against humanity. You sound like SBF Yellen.

[@lachlans1114]

“If it does go under, it would make a great addition to my new store.” Anybody else notice who provides the payment portals on said store? 13:57

[@bibarz2377]

This didn't age very well....

[@kaidusplatinum987]

Why has this happened to every single company Jack Dorsey has ever worked at? Seriously he needs to be in jail for life, how many 12 figure frauds can he blatantly conduct and face no consequences

[@BrianJosephViolin]

Hello to all the people coming here from the news about creator of cash app being stabbed

[@CaspianReportDE]

Nice video! Props to you for growing the channel!

[@HowMoneyWorks]

Thanks! Big fan of your channel too.

[@oliverhopkins8074]

Cash App founder stabbed to death in San F a few days ago.

[@supernenechi]

Unrelated, but I wonder. As a non-American, where I live I can just send a normal bank transaction to someone or send them a payment request through my bank. Basically every bank in my country is supported through requests and if not, transfer through IBAN is always possible and has never taken longer than an instant for me. Does the US not have that? Can't you just send money to eachother without having to go through some sort of money grubbing intermediate?

[@jeremiahblake3949]

We absolutely can send money directly between banks for free in the US, however due to banking regulations here it normally takes a day or two to process. The apps do it instantly, but with a small fee.

[@xman7695]

​@@jeremiahblake3949 and there isn't an option to send it instantly? We have the normal bank transaction and instant payment (for a small fee in some cases but not all). It also depends on if it's the same bank or another bank.

[@dionjones6300]

​@@xman7695 time varies. Say if sent through Zelle (partners with different banks) it can be instantenous. We can also send money through Facebook which is free and often instant but also varies in send time

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@jeremiahblake3949 business days it is often instant unless a large transaction or a lot of transactions that would require someone to look at to see if there was anything strange

[@aznanimegob]

We have Zelle

[@solofluye]

This is well fake? A SSN IS required I just opened one account and had to input one to receive any money lol

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

If you're product is widely mentioned in rap then it's either an expensive thing rappers want, a status symbol or involved in something illegal

[@LarsOfMars.]

The "worst year for financial fraud, ever" or rather "the best year for prosecuting large scale financial fraud so far"?

[@Mr.McDoubleStacksx]

Damn cash app ceo died five days after this video

[@nasirjones-bey6565]

👁️ 🤔🤔 👀👀

[@joezimmaro3630]

It’s crazy cash app founder was murdered how many days after this video?

[@talios6824]

I actually like Cash App's looser standards because as power and control consolidates, it's nice to some anonymity and privacy. Honestly, every argument in this video could be used against any crypto coin.

[@leonardooriano5794]

Ya, cause crypto is hot garbage

[@NateB]

This is How Money Works, not How Freedom Works. The viewers of this channel probably don't see the bank bailouts or Fiat currency as serious problems representing fundamental issues with the current financial system.

[@BestSomebodyNA]

Looks like Binging with Babish will need a new sponsor...

[@GusTheWolfgang]

That $17 mug did cost me my financial future

[@HowMoneyWorks]

Great mug idea

[@GusTheWolfgang]

@@HowMoneyWorks could I least get a mug for the idea?

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

@@GusTheWolfgang This seems fair.

[@ghostoflazlo]

"It's important you make your own research" "I read this so you don't have too" Pick one

[@NightRogue77]

I really wish people would pay closer attention to this lol… Take note of the fact that literally every single one of us has known this shit for ages now. These geniuses that invested hundreds of millions of dollars, I have never even signed up to use the damn thing and therefore have no idea how simplistic it is. What a diseased world we live in

[@A1stardan]

Most of the cash app users I met, turned out to be scammers

[@saltmerchant749]

Scammers scamming scammers scaming scamers.

[@firasali3334]

Regardless of what people think of the app. RIP Bob Lee 🕊️🙏

[@TheDoomer666]

yep it was such an odd timing for uploading this video

[@karunk7050]

@@TheDoomer666it was uploaded before the murder how would HMW have known

[@CatIsMad]

​@@karunk7050HMW did it confirmed

[@joydivine4587]

Any relation between this and the death of the CASH APP founder and Block exec?

[@jackgray1402]

I can feel a Coffeezilla video coming from all this information.

[@elitegamersx3509]

Do you realize the Bob Lee situation happened just 4 days after this video?

[@ryeinc]

TFW you’re watching this and hear the Bob Lee story at the same time 😳

[@ahmadnidalali9575]

This didn’t age well

[@BlitzGaming654]

What?

[@pdr.]

KYC was not originally about AML. It was originally designed to prevent financial institutions selling sophisticated financial products to customers who didn't understand them, which was a reaction to the GFC of 2007/2008, where complex credit instruments were bundled and sold to regular people with no background in finance. Since then, the banks have cleverly managed to turn KYC around by always mentioning it as a legal obligation together with AML and it's now used as another way for them to collect information on customers rather than something that serves to protect customers.

[@devilex121]

It is a legal obligtion though.... what on earth are you talking about??? There are literally auditors and regulators coming in to check if certain docs (including non-AML stuff) have been collected or not. If you have an issue with banks "collecting information", then go complain about your govt not the banks cos trust me almost all banks would avoid collecting extra info (and therefore doing extra work) if they actually could.

[@pdr.]

@@devilex121 I 100% agree this is a regulation problem, because the regulators are indeed the ones ultimately responsible for changing the meaning of KYC. My point was that KYC specifically was designed to protect customers but now it's conflated with AML which protects the banks themselves. In any case, KYC has definitely failed in it's goal of preventing financial institutions selling complex products to unsophisticated customers.

[@NateB]

None of it is about money laundering. It's about centralizing control of your behavior into fewer and fewer hands.

[@sephondranzer]

This is a wholesale lie, and I have no idea where the misunderstanding comes from. What any facet of KYC laws seems suited to this? Seriously banks can’t gather your IQ and don’t keep your education info on file - what the actual fuck are you talking about?? KYC has absolutely been about AML from the start - that’s why we gather financial info like where your money comes from since the inception of KYC. Wtf dude??

[@okage_]

aged like milk

[@cbrown7281]

This explains part of the reason the I-R-S is beefing up their workforce. Interesting

[@FirstTimer23]

Sounds like a hit piece to force the market for a short

[@GeronimoTech]

Didn’t someone stabbed cash’s app ceo to death?? Was that a setup?

[@whenemowascool]

Yes

[@Sonny_McMacsson]

Providing illicit substances is a valuable and highly in-demand service to society though. Edit: I'm sure politicians never use it, never.

[@worldpopgremlintgcidh105]

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[@MK-we9sw]

Funny. I had my cashapp locked. I was asked to provide two forms of American ID. I only had my passport. I had 100 dollars in there 😂

[@jennaywilliams1024]

Ok!? I forgot my password, had 150 in there, Lost my ID, I tried to send a picture of it and they said it wasn't good enough even getting the person who sent the money to vouch for me. Fucc all of them

[@LakeofCrystalclan]

@Damon Wright How so? Where’s your evidence?

[@MK-we9sw]

@Damon Wright okay 😂

[@Thor-Orion]

Cashapp is trash.

[@MK-we9sw]

@@Thor-Orion I preferred venmo but most of my friends used it so I had to get it too.

[@axs94]

Cash App founder was stabbed and died in San Francisco 😳

[@UCXEO5L8xnaMJhtUsuNXhlmQ]

The creator of cash app was fatally stabbed in San Francisco Tuesday morning.

[@thefocuschic3234]

Haha now I want one of those mugs!

[@ride1123]

Now that the cashapp guy is stabbed to death... now what.

[@vojtechstrnad1]

Would love to hear a mention on how AML/KYC objectively spectaculary fails at stopping criminals, and if anything it helps them because it makes user data leaks leading to identity theft more common. Great video otherwise, I'm sure it's now also priced in.

[@evannibbe9375]

The point of those laws isn’t the security of users in general (otherwise the U.S. would pass a law for protecting user privacy and creating minimum standards of computer security, which Congress has not done); the point of those laws is to force illegal transactions to use cash directly (which allows for police on the ground a higher probability of finding evidence), and those laws have been very successful in doing that.

[@sticklebacketienne]

Survivorship bias. KYC laws were originally designed to protect unsophisticated clients from being sold highly complex financial products that they didn’t fully understand. This doesn’t happen by and large in the western world now by large institutions who are regulated by KYC laws, so I’d argue they work very well at minimising criminality

[@sephondranzer]

@@sticklebacketienne That’s not true, I saw the same comment you did, but that’s definitely not true. Crazy notion

[@perryodom2859]

I really feel left aside hearing and seeing several testimonies from people on profits they make from Bitcoin/Forex Investment.. Can someone recommend a good expert that trade on my behalf and generate profit for me..

[@iancordell4718]

I think I'm blessed because if not I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as expert like Mrs Letton Deb. She helped me recover what i lost trying to trade for myself

[@perryodom2859]

Who is this Mrs Letton Deb everyone is talking about and how do i contact her directly?

[@JeremySMayer]

investment is the tiny line that keeps deferentiating the poor from the rich. Mrs Letton Deb has brought these to our door steps i guesst

[@luciler.anderson2531]

Wow can't believe you guys also know expert Mrs Letton Deb.

[@luciler.anderson2531]

Trading with her has been the best decision i and my husband has made this year.

[@GusTheWolfgang]

I think you're the first KZbinr to whom I'd buy merch, but I'm from the third world man, I can't spend $17 on a mug!

[@xman7695]

And even if one can 17$ for a mug is still way more than one should pay for it😅

[@rubidiumstrontium6427]

Where are you from, if I'm allowed to ask?

[@mamotalemankoe3775]

Same, I very much want the Madoff hood but $41 is grocery money for a month where I am.

[@GusTheWolfgang]

@@rubidiumstrontium6427 venezuela 🤝where dreams leave true

[@isaacl6402]

This may or may not be true but the last time I used cash app was years ago when I paid a guy for a cheaper UPS shipping label (probably obtained through mail fraud) 👍🏼

[@JGL98]

Bro a label is like $10 😂 were u down that bad

[@leoespino6032]

Every “ Label plug” back then used stolen credit cards to buy labels then resale it for their services. Sucks you got involved. It’s very risky because your items in the mail may get seized due to fraud

[@isaacl6402]

@@JGL98 broke college student man. It was a heavy item and I shipped a lot. Adds up

[@Plancksized]

The madoff hoodie is so cool! I had to buy one. I really wish the Lehman Bros mug was available in hoodie form though 😢

[@numberoneappgames]

The middle half of the century will definitely be seeing a lot of companies have to be checked for inflated user counts as more investors learn that user bases can be inflated. :D

[@kivaunreads4091]

The gall you have to have to commit fraud against an app (and, presumably, simultaneously against other businesses) is mind-boggling.

[@hugh_jasso]

Better than fraud against people.. most apps and businesses are going to be insured against fraud. Most people are not.

[@tumbox9204]

Do you still think Bob Lee's death was a random act of violence?

[@partysmoke]

CEO of cashapp was just stabbed earlier today. Crazy.

[@PromptGod]

Now the CEO got stabbed in the middle of the night on the street. Hmmmm

[@alexselness8309]

I guarantee you if we were to actually look at a lot of billionaires that we would have no billionaires left as they never get to the top without some soft of criminal activity

[@NightmaresForRobots]

Cash App founder and CTO Bob Lee was murdered in SF this week. I doubt there’s nothing shady going on with that. RIP Bob Lee.

[@legendsflashback]

Cash app founder died, or did he.

[@sovrappensiero1]

Watching this channel makes me feel like the future is truly doomed.

[@jasonbfhfj8132]

That’s the point. Dude almost never talks about positives. He acts like everywhere in the US is so inflated that life sucks. It isn’t true. He does this because fear attracts attention. I live in the midwest and life isn’t a struggle. Stop living in San Francisco or New York if you want a decent life

[@sovrappensiero1]

@@jasonbfhfj8132 yeah I know. I live outside a HCOL city so it’s not as easy out here as in the Midwest but it’s not terrible (yet - but it’s changing fast with domestic immigration patterns). And I used to say what you said. But I’ve been on the job market for over 3 months (in biotech) and 95% of the jobs are on-site or hybrid, in the HCOL or VHCOL cities. I don’t know what to do. I resent being forced to move to a place that will make most aspects of my life and future demonstrably worse than they are, but at the same time I like my field and don’t want to have to leave it just because these companies want to justify their leased office space and my city doesn’t want to expand its biotech strength.

[@agravery223]

​@@sovrappensiero1 exactly. I feel like people saying the midwest or down south have it 'great' are not taking into account that to make a high salary sometimes you have to be HCOL adjacent if not living in the damn HCOL. I read that wealthy companies were trying to downgrade your salary if you chose not to stay in a HCOL during/post? the pandemic. Either way, I doubt certain fields can have a 'nice' midwestern lifestyle if they can't get paid well.

[@TSerumula]

Woah. 😮 Super suss

[@sixbronze3726]

Love the videos keep up the good work!

[@NateB]

Most of this just makes me want to buy them more. To get to this point with that much cruft they'd have to have a damn good product. And they do. Money laundering my ass. These "laws", or rather, imperious decrees, are about centralizing control of our behavior into fewer and fewer hands, not about protecting us. The criticism at 13:00 is legitimate, though. These companies are getting huge valuations because of all of the cheap credit pumped into the financial system getting squeezed into equities.

[@Christopher-zr1ib]

I would love to buy your Theranos hoodie, but I would like it in the color Blue. Once that's available, you'll have a new customer

[@HowMoneyWorks]

Done! Blue is now an option just for you 😉

[@Christopher-zr1ib]

@@HowMoneyWorks 😅 that was quick. just placed my order🤝

[@renownedfear187]

the same fbi that made bs charges against the president... yeah...

[@hibudy]

​@@HowMoneyWorksbusiness 🤑

[@jordankendall86]

All services online should require you to have an active unique cell phone number associated with each account. This means you would only be allowed one account per cell phone number. That way you can't create an account without an active cell phone number. This also means scammers would have to pay for another cell phone to open another account. It would reduce most of the fake accounts out there and an added bonus is that law enforcement would know the owner of every account. Scams online would drop significantly.

[@XAIRSIGIL]

Wait a sec calling Cash App corrupt but NOT calling regular banks corrupt is a bit hypocritical. Cash App didn’t burst the housing bubble, or create CDO’s or synthetic CDO’s. Don’t call out cash app for “criminal” activity unless you are going to call out ALL criminal activity…