Answering Fundamentalist Attacks on the Eucharist

In this presentation, Trent explains the wild yet surprisingly common objections fundamentalists make against the Eucharist and gives you some practical tips for answering them.
Trent Horn combats attacks on the Eucharist in his talk given at the 2022 Catholic Answers Conference, "The Eucharist - I Am with You Always." To attend this year's conference in person and meet your favorite apologists, visit: catholicanswersconference.com

[@aaronfon18]

I am a former atheist, returned to Jesus over 6 months ago, I am right now in a crisis of determining whether to move to the protestant tradition or revert to catholicism. As an atheist I bought into the whole catholic pagan conspiracy theories and only just learning how many of them are just baseless. Your videos really help. I will pray to God that may his holy spirit guide me to the right path.

[@Jojo-nc6ok]

Hey how are you

[@awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960]

At first sight the protestants seem to have good points but if you give it time, you will see all of them deconstructed. It is to be expected that 2000 years of tradition and scholarship have superior but less comprehensive (to the less educated) explanations and interpretations

[@UrMomsFavSnack]

What convinced you to become a theist?

[@juans6639]

I as a Catholic will humbly remind you that, practicing Catholics; BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST! Sadly, Protestants CLAIM to believe in Jesus Christ but; DON'T BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST and Mt.16:18 clearly reads that Jesus Christ and the Apostles founded One and ONLY Catholic Church in 33A.D. All others are False, Man made Protestant, Reformed, Religions and Churches, over 70,000 of them who use the same Bible and disagree with each other. God bless you.

[@joycegreer9391]

Pagan is not a conspiracy theory. Constantine incorporated the paganism of the Roman Empire into the Christian church. You would need to research for origins of all the beliefs and practices. It also does appear to have been the policy, in converting natives of various countries, to adapt the native beliefs/practices into Catholicism with a belief it could be "Christianized".

[@amalp9784]

29:00 🔥🔥🔥 I'm a Syro-Malabar Catholic(follows East Syriac traditions) from south India our ancestors use the Peshitha Bible. Never expected Trent will mention it.

[@cdeep4548]

Yeee

[@freedomfields5569]

I'm glad you did this. I'm in the south and battling fundamentalists and hebrew israelites.

[@most_rustic_patrick]

🙏

[@faithofourfathers]

I’m in the south too. South Carolina. 😀

[@cdeep4548]

@@Call_Upon_YAH First off we do NOT worship Mary. Second Catholic teachings are not blasphemous to the word of God, the Bible is a Catholic book. Thirdly we follow the teachings of the apostles, who’s authority was passed on to there disciples; called apostolic succession. Fourthly Peter was the first Pope whom was given the keys to the kingdom by Jesus Christ himself to be his shepherd on Earth. I don’t think you are aware that the misconceptions you have about the Catholic Church are completely untrue.

[@spyroninja]

@@Call_Upon_YAH Lol

[@sigmacronos9382]

Just a gentle reminder: you are not battling them, they are battling you. You stand on the solid foundation that was laid by Jesus and Peter and his successors over the centuries. Remain in the truth of the gospels and they will not drag you down from that foundation.

[@LMHook-os9tk]

This is Trent at his best. Bravo!

[@johnpro2847]

repeating ancient folklore..yes I agree..amen

[@doramanchon7406]

How does Jimmy do it all? I had no idea he was capable of this level of art. Wow!

[@NachoManBoy4]

You mean Trent? LOL

[@NachoManBoy4]

Nvmd. Maybe I should watch the video first before reading comments :p

[@doramanchon7406]

@@NachoManBoy4 No. I mean Jimmy Akin. He drew that awesome comic. If you don't know who Jimmy Akin is, find out. He's a favorite of mine.

[@doramanchon7406]

@Jesus Saves! All Protestant Churches come from one place: the church set up by Jesus Christ himself, The Catholic Church. I'm actually converting from Protestantism to Catholocism this Easter, along with my husband. I've done the research. The Protestant churches are heretical in nature and lack the sacrifice portion required to worship God through the real presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the consecrated Eucharist. The Protestant churches lack the fullness of the truth contained within the Catholic Church. I pray daily for the conversion of all sinners to the one true church and I will especially pray for you. May God bless you and may the Holy Spirit convict your heart of these fallacies you have been indoctrinated with.

[@ironymatt]

I recall Jimmy once mentioned that he at one time was a police officer - a detective I think. If so, he would've been trained in how to make facial sketches for witnesses. That drawing looks an awful lot like just such a sketch.

[@doramanchon7406]

There was a guy who called Catholic Answers Live the other day when Joe Heschmeyer was on, who believed Catholocism was based on sun worship. I had never heard anything like that before that call.

[@peterzinya1]

Look at your monsterance. Its a sun symbol with sun rays and your god is put in it and you worship it as god. Its your sun god. Enjoy your religion.

[@roddycavin4600]

We do. We worship the Son of God 😁

[@ChrisEAdlay]

Watch that stupid "documentary" zeitgeist. If comes from there but originally came from some dude in the 1800s. Bunch of crap

[@ddmdUp1]

If you really want to go down that rabbit hole, look up Jack Chick.

[@hectorguerrero3374]

Love love love 💗. Thank you , this was a wonderful talk .

[@doramanchon7406]

Trent, I'm enjoying this immensely.

[@aureumursa1833]

This is definitely my new favorite Trent speech. Great job.

[@tompo8776]

Trent Horn is totally an amazing 🙂I'm learning a lot from his podcast 🙂

[@ddmdUp1]

glad for this video - it's exactly what I wanted - am reading Catholicism and Fundamentalism

[@ddmdUp1]

@@Call_Upon_YAH you're text seems to miss that Catholics would agree with much of what you posted. Have you looked at what Catholics would teach on these verses? For instance keeping the word. Jesus said whoever's sins you forgive they are forgiven, whoever's sins you retain they are retained. Which is why Catholics have confession. Catholic teaching also says that to worship anything or anyone as God is a sin. Is the KJV the true Holy Bible?

[@ddmdUp1]

@weaponofchoice-tc7qs yeah, the original comment I was replying to was deleted. I'm grateful for Catholic Answers, I'm not sold on the externals of catholicism (miraculous medals, statues and such), but the catechism and it's teachings seem solid.

[@twoody9760]

@@ddmdUp1 All Bibles are a translation. There is no perfect Bible. The KJV is a rather literal translation. If you are comfortable with the KJV that is fine. Newer translations are easier to understand. I would recommend a Catholic Bible because the footnotes are consistent with Catholic beliefs.

[@MUSIC-MARY]

God Bless you Trent! Live TRUTH, Live CATHOLIC!!!

[@moonytheloony6516]

Does "Live Catholic" include transferring known pedophile priests from one parish to another?

[@MUSIC-MARY]

@@moonytheloony6516 We all sin, Jimmy Swaggart is Protestant, he is sexually immoral.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

That is vile

[@earlwhite3760]

​@@universalflamethrower6342except it's truth which y'all prefer to forget & kept swept under the carpet. Ya ought to dig into some of your mighty men of God pope's that were into vile sexual immorality. The Vatican & Jesuits did not help enough to squash that or change yer history enough

[@TrixRN]

I read Keating’s book on Catholicism & Fundamentalism when I was discerning the Church, excellent resource.❤

[@ddmdUp1]

I'm reading that now. :-). How have you found your journey? Where did you come from?

[@TrixRN]

@@ddmdUp1 Hi Daniel. I entered the Church in 2014❤️I read the Catechism in 2010 & fell in love with the Church but still had to work out assenting to all of the uniquely Catholic doctrines, Marian, papal, etc. I read a whole lot, Scott Hahn, Carl Keating, Jimmy Akin… I also read the Apostolic Fathers & everything prior to the Nicene Counsel I could find, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Clement of Rome, Didache, to establish the existence of the Church & her practices before Constantine. It still took 2 times through RCIA before I finally assented to everything.😂I was a staunch Southern Baptist before I started the journey & had no intentions of converting at the age of 57. 😂I tell people God dragged me kicking & screaming into the Catholic Church because He knew I belonged here😂🤣😂

[@ddmdUp1]

@@TrixRN ❤️ I'm on my second round of RCIA now. My prayer was something like "Lord if you promise to see me through to the other side, I'll go." Meaning the transition from all my friends and relationships into the church. It's been a very difficult journey.

[@TrixRN]

@@ddmdUp1 I’ll be praying for you🙏❤️Which doctrines are you having problems with, if I may ask?

[@ddmdUp1]

@@TrixRN thank you. Mostly I struggle with does God hate me, tolerate me, or maybe love me. I'm coming from a strict Anabaptist setting where if you sin you're out mindset. I get these glimpses of God loving me in Catholic teaching that gives me hope from time to time. Marian beliefs seem unnecessary to require adherence past the gospel record, like assumption. Miraculous medals and superstitious beliefs are an annoyance. The catechism says anyone that believes the power is of the thing itself is superstitious, it seems like making merchandise of people to sell all the medals, statues and images. Medals are also recent like last 150 years. The church's lack of discipline seems too lenient, like if people openly sin and don't believe the eucharist, seems like it shouldn't be ignored? That might just be misperception on my part. I struggle with myself, but the idea of real healing and help in the church is encouraging. Like maybe I can grow in virtue, even at this older age. So I'm somewhat confused, mixed with hopefulness, mixed with fear 😨

[@clivejames5058]

As a Brit, Trent's comment about 'utter rubbish' made me laugh (I say it all the time!)

[@2008HRC]

Great video! Very helpful when dealing with those who have these types of objections

[@reginatabraham6239]

Amen Bro! 😊

[@elizabethsackey4852]

Thanks so much and God bless you

[@v1czero]

Hi CA, please turn on the caption featured on your channel, so we in indonesia can understand this speech in our own language. Thanks before

[@row1landr]

Glad you made this video!!!! Thank you!!!! It's not the scholars that attack us....our children at high school ball games, the park, walking in the shopping mall, at college, etc. It's not the scholars who attack us in the work place, the bank, the dry cleaners, the supermarket, etc. There was a little old man that attacked me with all his hatred in the grocery parking lot after I refused his jack chick flyer. He began to scream out, especially when I said I was a Catholic Christian, about Purgatory not being in the Bible, etc. I put on my Steve Ray/Trent Horne/Jimmy Akin/Patrick Madrid hat........ And I asked him. "Where does it say, in the whole Bible, that everything you believe has to be found in the Bible?" And, "Where is Trinity in the Bible?" And, I showed him where the Bible says that baptism now saves us, and John says Jesus taught them so much that there aren't enough books in the world to contain it all. He simply couldn't win this battle. He was spitting and he got all red in the face and I told him that he needed to settle down. I was worried he would have a heart attack. It is so sad how brainwashed these people are. They would drink the kool-aid. We need a Catholic apologist to make a book just for us little people to defend the faith and for our teen agers too. This book should have Bible verses and simple explanations of all those protestant questions. We need to be armed with the correct answers in our everyday life.

[@terrymunoztrujillo483]

to be honest, all religions are pretty crazy

[@luisaymerich9675]

Unless I am going to argue theology I would take the tract just so I could throw it away later and keep it from falling in the hands of someone weak in the faith.

[@markv1974]

Unfortunately not many of them are out for the truth. Theyre just out to get us. I have seen many in the comments where people take the time to explain and even wuote bible verses but then these protestants resort to ad hominen attacks- calling us whores of babylon and stuff. Sometimes im tempted to hit them with a thick bible (hard bound)

[@terrymunoztrujillo483]

@WeaponOfChoice that's what every religion things that only theres is right and all others wrong LOL. irony.

[@joycegreer9391]

I doubt he was screaming or had any hate. You had the hate attacking that poor old man who was only trying to witness to the lost. Everything theological you believe needs to be in scripture. If it is not in scripture, then it is word of man and not Word of God. The teaching of the Trinity is in scripture. Many concepts are taught, but not given the name we give them. The name doesn't change anything; it's just a convenient label. No, baptism does not save us, and scripture does not say it does. John said the things Jesus did could fill more books than the world could hold. Tell me, how would we know what those things were?? It sure is so sad how brainwashed you are. You obviously only drink the kool-aid of your RCC indoctrination and don't think, research, reason for yourself. NO critical thinking allowed in Catholicism. You might be burned at the stake, right? You don't have correct answers, only false propaganda.

[@jambangoni]

As a Protestant discerning catholic faith, I don’t think Trent needs to justify addressing these “low hanging fruits.” I have a lot of friends in tennessee and Louisiana who are amazing Christian’s and very anti-catholic but have never been exposed to a reasonable catholic defense.

[@awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960]

Most of the anticatholic objections are very hostile and uneducated. There is surely valid criticism, but most of their talkingpoints are things that not even the reformers wanted. They are parroting 16th century political propaganda

[@earlwhite3760]

Hmmmmmmm I'm from Tennessee & we are quite aware of Catholic cultism,, their manipulation of history in order to support their institution. It's probably because we have a habit of exposing liberalism. Where should we start? Their true establishment point, the centuries of the Pope's armies massacred murdering the true believers that existed thru out the world before the RCC of which labeled them Heritics? There is such glowing history that likes to be ignored otherwise people would doubt this is Christ's church. Wait! I know! Let's call people who understand that history as Fundamentalists that way they will lose credibility. Yeah yeah, just like that rotten Maxine Waters that termed those who disagree with democrats & liberals as Racists!

[@keedee3104]

Trent!! I’m such a huge fan. I just recently bought your book The Case for Catholicism and I can’t put it down! I’ve taken a deep dive into learning about our faith and how to defend it. I am so appreciative for your hard work that goes into books and speeches like this.

[@johnpro2847]

after 2000 years, the practicing faithful would be about 5% of the world's population,,,not exactly a success storey..amen

[@PleaseViewMyChannel]

Amen!

[@mikeparker840]

Trent Horn, I love you brother! I’m traditional high church Anglican. We believe in a lot of Catholic beliefs from early on with all due respect excluding the doctrine of the Papacy. We hold to the 7 sacraments and kneel at the altar to receive the body and blood of Christ. I just want a more deep belief in the real presence coming from a Baptist James White background.

[@c.Ichthys]

Yes, very close but lacking the essential Real Presence of Christ in the consecrated Eucharist, which is the true Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus. Transubstantiation. Your denomination does not believe in the Eucharist, and does not have this holy Sacrament nor any consecrated Bishops and Priests. Only in the Catholic Church. (And those certain Orthodox churches in union).

[@lynngraham5841]

Trent’s Gargamel voice is on point! 🤣👏🏻

[@JayRedding12_12]

Cool. I didn't know Jimmy was an artist.

[@Truthmustbtold]

I encourage all to read Ephesians 2;8-9 and 1John 5:13 in the kjv.

[@PInk77W1]

Where does the Bible say to read the KJV ?

[@universalflamethrower6342]

The KJV is just bad ass

[@earlwhite3760]

​@@PInk77W1exactly, it's better just being a RCC drone, don't have to think, believe or move just drink the Vatican Kool aid. Kinda like feeding off CNN then go out & attend anti anything riots & protests

[@reginatabraham6239]

I have also heard in the past, “In the Holy Spirit” for IHS.

[@GranMaese]

The stuff some people can imagine! I sometimes wonder if such people has ever, even remotely considered the idea... the possibility, that English is not the only language in the world? And if they can also realize it is a relatively new language by that matter.

[@michaelhaywood8262]

I have also heard that it is Iesu Homidor Salvador or something similar, the Latin for Jesus Mankind's Saviour. Another is In Hoc Signo - in this sign.

[@adenmelton8264]

Can you please respond to Peter Dimond soon. It’s been troubling me for a while and I have a very hard time figuring out how to rebut his teachings. Love and thanks Trent

[@iq5402]

I think he might’ve done a video on it a little while back, if it wasn’t him it’s on Pints with Aquinas.

[@adenmelton8264]

@@iq5402 he did a rebuttal but Dimond came out with 3 videos analyzing and rebutting his claims. Thing is I don’t like Dimond or his teachings but at the same time they seem hard to argue against, and it’s left me very worried about my own belief in the Catholic Church

[@bman5257]

@@adenmelton8264 He did a response to Dimond a while back. Basically Dimond loves to snag a quote out of context from 800 years ago and smash it into something a pope said after Vatican II and then conclude that this must be heresy and therefore they’re not the pope. But his feeneyite views were condemned before Vatican II, so he will do mental gymnastics and apply one standard to say that Pius IX and XII and the Council of Trent aren’t heretics when they say one thing but that Francis and other popes are heretics when they say the same thing. For a pope to be a heretic, he has to obstinately deny a dogma of the faith. If you can’t prove he’s obstinately denying a dogma and not just making an error, or that it isn’t a case of development of doctrine (such as with baptism by implicit desire) then he does not have a serious argument. This is not how the Church works, you don’t break into schism the moment you in your garage hear one thing from the pope you think is wrong. How would it have survived 2000 years if this was how things operated.

[@adenmelton8264]

@@bman5257 thank you so much. I was never too convinced of Dimond considering some of his more messed up views (unbaptized babies go to limbo and even those who never heard the gospel go to hell.) I just had a hard time refuting his claims especially after he released a series of videos “debunking” Trent’s replies

[@ironymatt]

​@@adenmelton8264it's a good rule of thumb not to pay much heed to those who spend their lives bashing our faith. It would be like accepting legal advice from convicted criminals. There's an unlimited number of ways someone can be wrong, and you only have so many hours in a day. The enemies of God would love to have you stuck playing whack-a-mole all the time, instead of experiencing all the joys in life God desires for us.

[@CathAqualic]

Trent def on some “Red Bull” before this speech lol

[@danieltemelkovski9828]

I had had heard of awry but I thought it was a different word to "or-ee" too, until I finally heard speaker reading from a powerpoint pronounce awry as a-rye.

[@Ghest735]

can you put the possibility to translate the video into french please?

[@bradleytarr2482]

Eastern Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, the Assyrian Church of the East, Roman Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans, and even Calvinists who take John Calvin's Treatises seriously, all believe in some sort of Real Presence doctrine. Fundamentalists are in a tiny, tiny minority of Christians. But that just makes them be convinced that they're "The faithful remnant of the Lord."

[@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039]

They are in the minority? I know here in Texas (where Trent is too) every town has at least 4 churches, which are usually not any of the ones you mentioned. That's probably where Trent's coming from.

[@bradleytarr2482]

@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 In the USA, yes, it is true, there are 67 Evangelical Fundamentalists for every one Catholic, and there are 150 Fundamentalists for every one Orthodox. But America is not the world. Globally, it is 1.6 Billion Catholics/Orthodox, compared to around 200 Million Fundamentalists.

[@misterkittyandfriends1441]

​@bradley tarr That can't really be true since the US is > 20% Catholic. The fundamentalists are largely regional, too, being a higher % in the South. Outside of the south they are a minority.

[@jacobrobinson5606]

can we have a story time with the trents?

[@soteriology400]

The Lords Supper was actually fulfilled in the first century by the house of Israel.

[@partydean17]

Trent. Give me your public speaking powers

[@bradleytarr2482]

People who have a 4th Grade Education on Egypt and the Egyptian Pantheon, know that the Egyptian Sun-god was Ra...

[@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039]

Yeah, cuz he had like the coolest name! (and easiest to remember)

[@johnmontoya4047]

Trent is Bad Ass!!! Jack t chick tracts made me dig more into my faith...the death cookie made me more alive when i looked in to the real Eucharist....

[@user-of1hd2dy1t]

Newsflash: The Catholic Eucharist is NOT "Holy" at all.. especially since it's given out by a Church that's "Accursed", "Anathematized" and "Eternally Condemned" by it's preaching of "Another Gospel"..as well as..4,000 (and counting) Priests..who became Defiled..when they had their hands down the pants of 330,000 Children (and counting) that they RAPED and SEXUALLY ASSAULTED them possibly weeks, days or even hours..before handing out the Eucharist..which made the Eucharist Desecrated..and UNHOLY!

[@gandolfthorstefn1780]

If you want hear about the Eucharist miracle in Poland go to KZbin and watch the video on The Saint Thomas Eucharist miracle that happened this week.Its about 2:35 long. Either watch all of it or go to the 2:00 minute mark and he'll start talking about the Poland Eucharist miracle and the heart tissue 🙏♾️

[@hglundahl]

38:16 Is that Vener. Fulton Sheen, holding up a host?

[@hglundahl]

Either way, the laws about what to do to heretics and the laws about what is heresy are absolutely distinct, and with no large swathes of population Catholic and isolated from non-Catholics, there is not much to protect by executing heretics. The Inquisition has had its run, but it's not a viable option for today.

[@PInk77W1]

Yes Fulton Sheen

[@hglundahl]

@@PInk77W1 Thank you!

[@PInk77W1]

I was debating a Protestant online I brought up Jn 6. Where Jesus said “My flesh is real food.” The guy answered me by saying “Obviously he didn’t mean it”

[@universalflamethrower6342]

Protestants are like Abdools, they will twist scripture any way possible to do Sola Scripture, that is because they don't know the Grace of tradition

[@c.Ichthys]

And how did you reply? This is what I say: Jesus taught that _unless you _*_eat His flesh_*_ and _*_drink His blood,_*_ you will: _*_have no life in you; no eternal salvation; and Jesus will not reside in you nor will you reside in Jesus._* John 6:53-56. Those who do not believe take the mark of 666, as in John 6:66: no coincidence that number. Furthermore, St. Paul also warned those whom didn't discern this truth (of the true Body and Blood of Christ) became ill and some even died. (1 Corinthians 11:29-30).

[@PInk77W1]

@@c.Ichthys I don’t remember how I replied. I was pretty shocked

[@earlwhite3760]

​@@PInk77W1somehow you need to pray for wisdom & try to understand. V47 I say unto you He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. So what did he say? V51 if any man eat of this bread he shall live forever. Oooops, contradiction??!! What? Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man & drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Hmmmmmmmm Let's see here: v47 believe is the rule as is so much scripture. V51, 53: eat of this bread, eat of this flesh, drink of his blood. Did it kick in yet? V47 believe for eternal life. V51, 53 is an edition to that? If I believe it ain't good enough? Howbout I just eat & drink, that'll do it? Nope it don't say that. Why did Jesus one day change to speaking in parables?? Now how did Jesus talk when he wanted us to think? Could Jesus Christ be ourb"only" nourishment for life? Of course. Could feasting on the flesh & blood of Jesus be belief & faith? Is it better to have a priest order down Christ from his position in heaven daily to be sacraficed again? He was a once & for all perfect sacrafice for me from GOD, why, how could I let a man, an institution claim it's ok, it's needed, it's bloodless? Only, only Satan would cause question or try to distort what Christ did once for all. I know y'all have been conditioned & re-educated by & on Vatican orders but GOD gave you HIS WORD & HIS Spirit for a reason, now use it!!!!

[@thementalist1213]

I was in a pilgrimage in 2023 and was on a 2 by 2 mission knocking on doors as catholics. A group of protestants motioned us over and gave us these comics. Hahaha. Proceeded to barage us with how we were wrong that we believe we still have to do abything to be saved

[@gregorylaw5290]

In the passage about eating with unwashed hands, Jesus says that whatever goes in the mouth is eliminated so that has nothing to do with righteousness. Does that relate at all to the Eucharist being the actual body and blood of Christ and grace being conferred through the Eucharist? I can see the argument of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist conferring grace, but not the physical presence in the sense of flesh and blood.

[@hglundahl]

32:01 Noting, anamnesis in the LXX translates lə·’az·kā·rāh in Lev 24:7 and lə·zik·kā·rō·wn in Numb 10:10 ... in each case a sacrifice is involved, so we have a very good case for Mass being a sacrifice.

[@hglundahl]

@WeaponOfChoice I'm not sure what "accuser" is supposed to mean in a case like this ...

[@hglundahl]

@WeaponOfChoice I know it is a legal expression - what I don't know is which side is supposed to be cast for the role of "accuser" in a case like this.

[@hglundahl]

@WeaponOfChoice No offense caused.

[@hglundahl]

@WeaponOfChoice Indeed, I was only puzzled by a choice of word. In the situation of the 16th C. your proposition would have been clearer, since the Reformers were accusing what was hitherto the main position.

[@hglundahl]

@WeaponOfChoice meaning, the "reform" ditched Jesus as the way and the life ...

[@hglundahl]

27:59 I don't think this view of the "Forbidden Book" is exclusive property of Fundamentalists. I am not sure whether Craig Lampe is Fundamentalist or not, he's just radically Protestant. I did write a response to a video giving his book as a "dcoumentary" and it would seem the guys involved were very far from exclusively Fundamentalists.

[@pdxnikki1]

Thanks, Trent. Someone needs to defend the actual body of Christ! And His soul & divinity. God bless you, sir. May His peace always be with you. 🙏 PS I have Chick's entire The Crusaders comic book series, all 22 volumes. Why I have them is a quandary; my poor Protestant PTSD ex-Ranger ex gave them to me one day while telling me that the earth was flat & the moon landing was faked. And this poor soul had multiple PhD's and truly believed that Jesus is who He claims. He believed THAT, not believed IN Jesus. And so, in remembrance for this poor soul, I've kept the comic book series. After all, they ARE highly entertaining & a joke. Should be in a museum to mental instability somewhere, don't ya think?

[@peterzinya1]

Jesus is a big boy. He can defend himself.

[@peterzinya1]

@weaponofchoice-tc7qs Your god is weak and needs humans to defend him. Mine is strong and needs no help.

[@larrybedouin2921]

When you forgive your child, do you then afterwards beat them after forgiveness? Is that how you teac children to forgive others? "Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.”

[@joethebro3965]

No, but if my child breaks a window of the house, while I forgive them, they still have to pay for the repair of the window

[@larrybedouin2921]

@@joethebro3965 Jesus has paid it for us, for He is our passover sacrificed (once) for us. That's Grace.

[@hglundahl]

8:22 _"They did it in Ancient Egypt"_ Is Jack Chick (in the person of the devil) leaning on Hislop?

[@hglundahl]

Oh, hadn't heard of Massey, sorry ....

[@hglundahl]

Either way, leaning on either Hislop or Massey is not Fundamentalist exesis ...

[@user-uc1yb7hy2n]

Ambrose of Milan, On the Mysteries Chapter 9. Ο Θεός να ευλογεί.

[@AllanKoayTC]

Trent Horn = CA apologist + Star Wars nerd

[@mdwms6152]

About 30 yrs or so ago I found a Chick Tract in the pages of a library book. It was in the Catholic section where I was browsing. I could see immediately how egregiously incorrect it was. The art was crude and the message so ill informed. They could be used to instruct ppl in apologetics as Horn is doing here, like for teens who might be swayed and don't know what to say when confronted. There is too much "sheep stealing" going on by some evangelicals, many who were raised Catholic themselves.

[@apubakeralpuffdaddy392]

Yet, Evangelicals who are sincere, who study their Bibles, who heed the Words of Jesus, who read the Early Church Fathers, & who are open to the Holy Spirit, end up becoming Catholic. Scott Hahn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, Steve Ray, David Anders, John Bergsma, Marcus Grodi, and so many more.

[@therese6447]

The Chick comic books look like propaganda psyop against the Catholic Church...look at the devices he uses to influence the ill infomed...no facts...completely false stuff he promoted.

[@PuzzlesC4M]

Holy avocado toast! I’ve heard of Chick Tracts, but didn’t know they were this bad. This is so embarrassing.

[@lingsuyen9509]

They're not bad, they're VICIOUS

[@hglundahl]

0:08 That Protestants attack the Eucharist is one thing, but what's Fundamentalist about it?

[@ValsVersion]

How about answering schismatic attacks on our Pope.

[@hglundahl]

29:36 Actually, "private interpretation" as you attribute to Protestantism is a fairly late comer in Protestantism. The Lutheran view is more that the Church _has_ a magisterium, which is always fallible even if authentic, to put it in terms that a Catholic can relate to. This obviously means, the Lutheran could claim that while Lateran IV was authentic magisterium, it was still fallible, and actually failed. So, a new authentic magisterium is set up by Luther and his disciples to correct that. And the Lutheran idea of who decides over the magisterium is simply Caesareopapism.

[@hglundahl]

@WeaponOfChoice It's even what he wanted and promoted. It's what Lutheran countries had.

[@PInk77W1]

I thought Luther was complaining about too many people doing what he did almost immediately.

[@hglundahl]

@@PInk77W1 Good analysis of a psychological type, but not good assessment of what he thought.

[@PInk77W1]

@@hglundahl He wrote it down

[@peterzinya1]

Its really brave of you to show the Chick Track because it really exposes the CC. And bravo for trying to explain it away. I have a new respect for you.

[@misterkittyandfriends1441]

I don't think it shows what you think it shows, or exposes who you think it exposes.

[@peterzinya1]

@@misterkittyandfriends1441 You false religion catholics are funny.

[@PInk77W1]

@@peterzinya1 A cartoon tract vs Hundreds of giant Cathedrals and universities and hospitals

[@thomasfolio7931]

Chick seems to have once again only read part of the prohibition against Idolatry as it is not just an image of God that is forbidden but anything in heaven and on earth, so the depiction of an angel and human (souls) around 5:20 would make Chick a (now diseased) Idolater.

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

The DaVinci Code is a dramatic NOVEL, loosely based on various historical & religious views. It is not an addition to the Canon. Dan Brown is a talented author; I very much enjoy the “Ancient Artifact Treasure Hunt Action Adventure” genre. Indiana Jones; The Librarian Trilogy; National Treasure Duo; Romancing the Stone / Jewel of the Nile; etc. All Fiction. I truly do not understand why so many bloomers are so bunched up over The DaVinci Code…. Seriously, folks…

[@johnpro2847]

3:00 I have a scholarly criticism. so you will love it.The garden of Eden is folklore from antiquity. We evolved as human beings and were not created. Try to answer that in a scholarly way..amen

[@c.Ichthys]

You're not credible. Tell me, how did we evolve? You would say from a one-celled brainless amoeba. Where did that amoeba come from? Where and when did the universe come into existence? Whom created the amazing complex DNA? How did a brainless amoeba know to become eyes, brains, organs, bones etc? Not only that, male and female at the same time with reproductive organs. And to create plant life, insects and all animals, birds and sealife? At the same time since all life on earth is co-dependant and exists synergistically. See, in order for there to be created things, there first must be a Creator. And that Creator is God as He revealed to us and came to us in the Person of Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh.

[@user-uc1yb7hy2n]

It’s the low hanging fruit that gets the big views…ok, you just got there. Never mind. God bless

[@haydongonzalez-dyer2727]

First to comment!

[@SAGKavin]

I am the 666th like!😂😂😂 For a second i thought, weather to give like or not.

[@johnpro2847]

7:25 St Paul should be in Rikers for crimes against humanity..amen

[@c.Ichthys]

Well, as you judge so shall you be judged. Thankfully St. Paul is eternally in heaven with God.

[@johnpro2847]

15:00 Nowhere in my high school chemistry book could i see how Jesus can be transported from heaven and chemically become a piece of naan bread..amen

[@user-ki2vh1uc5k]

You won't find answers about the Eucharist in your chemistry book. Try reading the book, Rome Sweet Home, by Professor Scott Hahn. That should help you understand the Eucharist.

[@c.Ichthys]

Oh so you place limitations on God's miracles! Pitiful.

[@anthonyfowler2623]

When Peter was confirmed as the first pope….upon this rock I shall build my church not upon my bible….both are equally important it just shows that sola scriptura is nonsense

[@richardbenitez1282]

I’m tired of hearing all this stuff over and over. I don’t need to be convinced . I accepted all this in 2 nd grade. Gee!

[@larrypicard8802]

It’s not a parallel it’s a precursor and it’s correct. The Eucharist wasn’t anything new but derived from the ancient mystery cults. It’s history like it or not. You can’t debunk it.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

Nope

[@row1landr]

Statues and idol worship is one of my favorite things to discuss with protestants. Do they worship their terracotta garden bunny or bird? Do they worship the stuffed panda bear their child has? Do they let their daughter play with a baby doll?....oh, then they must worship infant humans. They refuse to see the ridiculousness of all this.

[@terrymunoztrujillo483]

sadly we ALL worship our cell phones, literally never turning them off or leaving them alone.

[@row1landr]

@@terrymunoztrujillo483 I agree with that statement in general. But not "ALL"

[@terrymunoztrujillo483]

@@row1landr 94% ;)

[@apubakeralpuffdaddy392]

To be fair, Protestants do not kneel before gnomes, bunnies, pink flamingoes, and say prayers. A much better argument is to quote the Bible in which God orders the Israelites to make statues, even after apparently forbidding 'graven images'. Exodus 25 10 “Have them make an ark[b] of acacia wood-two and a half cubits long, a cubit and a half wide, and a cubit and a half high.[c] 11 Overlay it with pure gold, both inside and out, and make a gold molding around it. 12 Cast four gold rings for it and fasten them to its four feet, with two rings on one side and two rings on the other. 13 Then make poles of acacia wood and overlay them with gold. 14 Insert the poles into the rings on the sides of the ark to carry it. 15 The poles are to remain in the rings of this ark; they are not to be removed. 16 Then put in the ark the tablets of the covenant law, which I will give you. 17 “Make an atonement cover of pure gold-two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide. 18 And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 19 Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends. 20 The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face each other, looking toward the cover. 21 Place the cover on top of the ark and put in the ark the tablets of the covenant law that I will give you. 22 There, above the cover between the two cherubim that are over the ark of the covenant law, I will meet with you and give you all my commands for the Israelites.

[@apubakeralpuffdaddy392]

@WeaponOfChoice AWESOME example! Numbers 21 4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[c] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!” 6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people. 8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

[@hglundahl]

7:53 You have hopes of Jack Chick getting to heaven? Just before he died, he was blaspheming the visions of St. Ignatius of Loyola ....

[@hglundahl]

23:23 Your points are very good. Except you single out Fundamentalism for the opponent. Protestantism of a certain sort is, and if what you cite comes more from Fundamentalists, it's not that other Protestants don't agree, it's that they are less flustered about Catholics potentially going to Hell over this. I have never seen Eric of Testify state his views, and if I'm correct he's Anglican, he might not be concerned, but take some other Protestant Apologist, he might well agree, but see less point in saying it.

[@hglundahl]

I meant William Lane Craig. Unlike Jack Chick, he would not state you damn yourself by believing the Eucharist, but like Bart Brewer, he would consider transsubstantiation an accretion, basically an invention of Radbertus Paschasius.

[@hglundahl]

And it's no way you could squeeze William Lane Craig into the Fundamentalist box. He explicitly doesn't believe in Young Earth Creationism.

[@johnpro2847]

15:00 A long history of folklore belief does not make it any more real. Transubstantiation is a religious belief, not a scientific fact ..amen

[@edel5780]

If transubstantiation is only a religious belief then how do you explain the scientific evidence from the Eucharistic miracles?

[@c.Ichthys]

Oh ye of little faith. Since you brought up science in your previous comments, take a look at scientists discoveries about the miracles of the Eucharist which are actual health tissue.

[@hglundahl]

4:15 _"is there anything this man can't do?"_ Distinguish Fundamentalism from Anticatholicism, perhaps?

[@hglundahl]

39:55 You have done yourself and your intended audience a disservice by equating this type of Anti-Catholicism with Fundamentalism. Meanwhile, one piece of refutation, whether to the "Death Cookie" or to "Forbidden Book" that I missed is, asking such people the question "where did the real Church go in the meantime?"

[@billmeehan7443]

At the last supper Jesus said this is my body and again taking a cup said this is my blood but it is still bread and wine but look it is spirtual body and blood it is still his body and blood because he said so and

[@c.Ichthys]

Jesus said it is His true Flesh and true Blood. Not a symbol. Real.

[@sulongenjop7436]

Those people do not respect the Last Supper that Jesus and his apostles had ever taken...do in remembrance of Jesus.

[@bandie9101]

first

[@paulcapaccio9905]

We Catholics are on the high ground. We don’t need to prove anything to Protestants. They must be willing to listen

[@joycegreer9391]

Hahahaha. You have that backwards. The Church that tortured and killed millions in the most diabolical ways has no high ground.

[@user-zi7gd9pn3l]

@@joycegreer9391 Did you even watch around 35:00 and on? Without lies, Protestantism dies. - ex Prot

[@joycegreer9391]

@@user-zi7gd9pn3l You mean without lies Catholicism dies, heretic. You need to research all the tortures and killing of the RCC. I've never heard/read the atrocities as being supposed witches burned at the stake...smh. That was not the focus of the Inquisitions. Stating RCC and secular as different is very disingenuous. The RCC controlled all of Europe. Religious and secular were not separate. The person on this video is dishonest.

[@user-zi7gd9pn3l]

​@@joycegreer9391 Actually religion and government were separate. The church didn't control the government, it influenced it, but ultimately the government got the final say. Also most criminals during the times of the inquisition hoped to get tried for heresy because the church courts were way more forgiving than the government courts. Most heretics would of been let off easy by just promising to do Penance for their crime.

[@joycegreer9391]

@@user-zi7gd9pn3l You have that wrong. RCC controlled Europe. The secular carried out executions by the orders of the Vatican. Kings were ruled by the RCC. Otherwise, Henry VIII would not have had a problem. Penance was not the issue. These were people tortured into recanting or being killed in horrible ways. These were not secular crimes. You need to seriously research.

[@larrybedouin2921]

But he answered and said unto them, "Why do you also transgress *the commandment of God* by your TRADITION?” Sun-day {Matthew 15:3}

[@c.Ichthys]

Oh here you are taking a verse out of context! Read Matt 15:3 in context. Now tell me, what tradition, were they doing that Jesus condemned? They were not taking care or their parent(s)!!! Not honoring mother and father! Giving "gifts" to the Pharisees that would profit these Pharisees, while neglecting the care of parents.

[@larrybedouin2921]

@@c.Ichthys What difference does it make? They did the same with their traditions added to God's holy sabbath day.

[@larrybedouin2921]

@@c.Ichthys This was not meant for them, but for you who are wondering after the mark of the beast and worshipping on Sunday a common (spurious) day that God has never made holy.

[@larrybedouin2921]

@@c.Ichthys It was Peters confession of faith that Jesus would build his church on. Not on Peter himself. When Jesus came into the coasts of *Caesarea Philippi* he asked his disciples, saying, "Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?" And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, "But whom say ye that I am?" And Simon Peter answered and said, *Thou art the Christ the Son of the living God* And Jesus answered and said unto him, "Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and *upon this rock I will build my church* and *the gates of hell* shall not prevail against it.” {Matthew 16:13-18} "upon *this rock* I will build my church" is a demonstrated pronoun. No different than, Jesus answered and said unto them, "Destroy *this temple* and in three days I will raise it up.” {John 2:19} "the gates of hell" Here Jesus was using satire, for the pagans believed that the gates of hades was at a cave in Caesarea Philippi. “And I will give unto thee *the keys of the kingdom of heaven* and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” {Matthew 16:19} The keys to the kingdom is not exclusive to Peter, for anyone can open the kingdom of heaven by their witness of the gospel to unbelievers. “Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.” {Matthew 10:32} That *if thou shalt confess with thy mouth* the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and *with the mouth confession is made unto salvation* {Romans 10:9-10} And that *every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord* to the glory of God the Father. {Philippians 2:11} Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. {1 John 4:15} And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, *If thou believest with all thine heart thou mayest* And he answered and said, *I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God* {Acts 8:35-36}

[@c.Ichthys]

@@larrybedouin2921 You make false statements. Jesus said He is the Lord of the Sabbath. Sabbath does not mean "Saturday". It actually means "seven", and God commanded man to work 6 days and rest on the 7th (Sabbath) keeping the 7th day holy. There was no Saturday. Know when the Apostles observed the Breaking of the Bread (Eucharist) and which day? As Scripture declares: on the first day of the week, the Lord's Day (which is known as Sunday).

[@lupelo8819]

JESUS SAID "IF ANYONE SAYS, HERE IS THE CHRIST (THE UNBIBLICAL EUCHARIST).., DO NOT BELIEVE IT".(MATTHEW 24:23).

[@biblealone9201]

well then your Calling Christ un biblical In Matthew 26, Mark 14, and Luke 22, Jesus says of the bread, “This is my body.” He says of the wine, “This is my blood.” Not “this is symbolic of,” or “this represents,” He says “this IS.” In John 6, He repeats Himself, like He does nowhere else in Scripture, to emphasize the fact that He expects us to eat His flesh and drink His blood and that His flesh is real food and that His blood is real drink. Anyone who says He is speaking symbolically, and not literally, simply is refusing to look at all of the facts. Fact #1: The Jews took him literally, verse 52. Fact #2: His disciples took him literally, verse 60. Fact #3, the Apostles took him literally, verses 67-69. If everyone who heard him speak at the time took Him literally, then my question is: Why does anyone today, 2000 years after the fact, take him symbolically? Also, in verse 51, Jesus says that the bread which He will give for the life of the world is His flesh. When did He give His flesh for the life of the world? On the cross. Was that symbolic? If you think Jesus is speaking symbolically here when He says that we must eat His flesh and drink His blood, then you must also conclude that Jesus’ death on the cross was symbolic…it wasn’t really Jesus hanging up there…it was symbolic flesh and symbolic blood. Jesus is clearly talking about the flesh that He gave for the life of the world…He did that on the cross. Those who believe He is talking symbolically here in John 6, have a real problem when it comes to John 6:51. Did Jesus give His real flesh and blood for the life of the world, or was it only His symbolic flesh and blood? First, any divine command that comes later modifies divine commands that came earlier. When Jesus declared all foods clean (Mk 7:19), his command superseded the earlier command that certain foods be regarded as unclean (Lv 11:1-8). If Jesus today commands us to drink his blood, his command supersedes any prior command concerning drinking blood. Second, the command against drinking blood, like all of the Old Testament dietary regulations, has passed away, for “These are only a shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink” (Col 2:17, 16). The mention of not eating blood in Acts 15:20, 29 was a pastoral provision suggested by James to keep Jews from being scandalized by the conduct of Gentile Christians. We know that these pastoral provisions were only temporary. One concerned abstaining from idol meat, yet later Paul says eating idol meat is okay so long as it doesn’t scandalize others (Rom 14:1-14, 1 Cor 8:1-13). If it is objected that blood is not a food (though it is in some cultures), note that Jesus was asked (Mk 7:5) why his disciples ate with unwashed hands. He replied, “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn’t go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body” (7:18-19). In context this refers to a non-food substance (the dirt on one’s unwashed hands). Third, the Old Testament is very specific about why one was not to eat blood: “The life of every creature is the blood of it; therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood” (Lv 17:14, cf. Dt 12:23). The Israelites could not eat animal blood because it contained the animal’s life, but there is one Person whose life you must have in you, “Christ who is your life” (Col 3:4). Finally, even if the Jehovah’s Witnesses were right that drinking blood were intrinsically evil instead of the subject of a temporary prohibition, they would still have problems with John 6 because, in their interpretation, Jesus would be commanding us to eat his flesh symbolically and to drink his blood symbolically. He would be commanding us to act out symbolically an intrinsically evil deed as part of a sacred worship service. But this leads us to a ludicrous conclusion, so it must be that drinking Christ’s blood is permissible (not to say desirable).

[@lingsuyen9509]

@@biblealone9201 you are wasting your time on lupe lo .... He is here AGAIN as a troll and not here to listen to reason.

[@PInk77W1]

Jesus said As often as YOU do this

[@johnpro2847]

If Jesus came back today he would scratch his head and say I don't recognise any of this..I am Jewish..which way to the synagogue..amen

[@c.Ichthys]

Lol. No Jesus would not say that. Jesus is the Word made flesh, Son of God, the I AM. He was born into the lineage of King David as well as the Levitical Priesthood of Aaron. Jesus is the New Covenant, and the baptized are called Christians. Amen

[@stevendavis8636]

When you are ignorant about history you can make your own up. Go Woke

[@herbertwraczlavski896]

So you say it's highgly unlikely to burn 5 million women at a stake, yet I presume you wouldn't dare to voice the same doubt about holocaust.

[@davidmccarroll8274]

As a Bible believing Christian I am saved by grace through faith ( for good works ) and the good works are a necessary sign that my heart has changed and I love god but I am not trying to earn what Christ has given as a free gift.If we have to earn ongoing salvation then the cross is nullified and Christ died for nothing .All he had to do was to encourage the Jews to spread their faith to the rest of the world and we would all have a faith based on good works under the law of Moses .But Jesus died for my sins and rose again to give me eternal life as a free gift of grace through faith .The consequence is that as a saved person you want to please god and so do good works out of love for god.I am incapable of earning salvation myself Why ? I cannot be perfect every second of every hour of every day.god bless

[@c.Ichthys]

You confuse Redemption with Salvation. Everyone, (past, present and future) was *_redeemed_* by Jesus's death upon the cross. That is not automatic salvation. Salvation is a gift we either accept or reject, and salvation once accepted can be lost. Jesus placed conditions (requirements) on salvation with His commands/teachings: Baptism, Confession, Holy Communion (aka Eucharist), obedience. Jesus said if you love Him you will obey his commandments. He told us to obey our Bishops that He gave us and to listen to his Church (which is Catholic). Jesus warned that not all believers will get eternal salvation, only those who do the will of His Father. Oh and to be clear, no one can merit their own way into heaven.

[@davidmccarroll8274]

@@c.Ichthys your comment is totally contradictory and you are contradicting yourself .First you make a distinction between redemption and salvation so that you can give Christ the partial credit and has to be then continued with the following of rules .Having told me what I need to do to earn salvation you conclude by telling me I can do nothing to merit salvation .you cannot have it both ways .When you can work out which it is you may be able to to have faith .At the moment you appear confused about what you do believe.I hope and pray that you can find clarity without contradiction

[@c.Ichthys]

@@davidmccarroll8274 nope. No where have I contradicted myself. You just are misunderstanding about redemption and salvation and exactly what the scriptures mean about "works". Tell me what you think redemption was. Tell me why Paul says work out your *_own salvation_* with fear and trembling. Tell me why James says faith without works is dead, it is no faith at all. Tell me why we're told that believing is not enough (demons believe yet they shudder) and that many who say "Lord, Lord" will not get eternal salvation. They were redeemed btw. The *_works of the OT Mosaic Laws_* cannot merit our eternal salvation. Read properly. Amen

[@davidmccarroll8274]

@@c.Ichthys The easiest way I can explain what I believe is simple .We are saved by grace through faith in what Jesus did on the cross .End of done deal .We have to receive the grace through faith .After that we are filled with the holy spirit The holy spirit renews our mind so that we have a heart that wants to please god .I do my good works out of love for god ( my motivation ) in response to his love and grace on the cross . I do not do anything out of a sense of need to earn or a sense of duty .My life is about love for god and following his holy spirit in what to think and do and say and when to keep quiet.I live with the peace that surpasses understanding of which I have had for the past 20 years after living without god before .If and when I make a mistake I begin to loose my peace .I hate loosing my peace .As soon as I repent and apologize to God direct I get my peace back .True Christianity is a direct relationship with god through the holy spirit following his lead A loving relationship between god and those who choose him .all the best god bless !!!

[@c.Ichthys]

@@davidmccarroll8274 (1) thank you for your reply. I see that you are mistaken about Jesus's death upon the cross. The "done deal" to use your words, was when Jesus took upon His sinless body and soul ALL the sins of the world in order to redeem ALL humans: past, present and future. That is not salvation. Redeem means to buy back; purchase another's debt (they pay the price) and free the person from prison/slavery. As scripture declares, the wage/price for sin is death (eternal separation from God, in hell). This debt was so great, an eternal sin, that no human could ever earn or purchase their freedom from “prison”; being slaves to sin and cut off from God. So by His blood and death, everyone is redeemed, unconditionally. Now, not everyone is saved. Salvation is conditional: It is freely offered, a gift, that *must be accepted and requires obedience to Jesus's teachings/commandments.* His words as recorded in the bible.

[@johnpro2847]

29:00 You said the church that christ established. No he did not establish a church..he was a Jewish preacher and remained so all his life...he wanted to reform some aspects of his Jewish faith. Sr Paul who came on the seen afterwards was the main driver to start a new religion by letting in non Jews..amen

[@geoffjs]

Jesus founded the ONE true Catholic Church Matt 16:18

[@c.Ichthys]

Nope, you're wrong. Jesus said "I will build my Church upon Cephas (Aramaic means Rock and translated into English is Peter). Jesus is the builder and the first essential cornerstone laid upon the foundation of the Apostles and prophets, with Simon bar Jonah as the Rock upon which Jesus built His Church. Jesus also delegated upon Peter the office of the shepherd over Jesus's flock of believers (sheep and lambs) to feed and tend in the visible Sheepfold of Jesus which is The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

[@thockpehar]

Church history is zero authority. Even in the first days of the church there was iniquity. Most of pauls writings address these issues. I put my trust in Jesus the spiritual bread of life.

[@c.Ichthys]

The One, Holy,Catholic and Apostolic Church does have authority as established by Jesus the King, and Shepherd. Jesus gave to Cephas (Rock/Peter) the keys to the kingdom of heaven, (the Royal Steward now) which symbolizes complete authority to rule, govern and make decisions in place of the king. It is a lifetime office which is then passed on to the next successor when the Royal Steward dies (or becomes incapacitated). Not only that, in John 21:15-17 Jesus our Shepherd of shepherds delegated to Peter (and his successors) the role of Shepherd on earth over Jesus's flock of believers (baptized sheep and lambs).

[@tradcath2976]

Your time would be much better spent answering modernist attacks on the liturgy.

[@frederickanderson1860]

Hiw did Peter and paul and others believe in the ministry of Christ. Not By historical church narratives, Peter received it not by any theological knowledge of the Torah. Or Paul who was a Pharisee of the Pharisees,he received it by the revelation of jesus christ. Consider john the Baptist he declared what Peter denied that jesus was the lamb of God ( the sacrifice) passover. Peter denied same jesus rebuked him harshly.

[@biblealone9201]

So much for Peter denying the sacrifice .” Jesus turns to the 12 and asks, “Will ye also go away? Simon Peter gives the same answer that I find myself saying to those who tell me I should leave the Catholic Church for this reason or that one, “Lord, to whom shall we go?” And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock🤔🤔 I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Matthew 16:18 Notice that Jesus said 'church' (singular), and not 'churches' (multiple) in that verse. Do you believe that Jesus Christ founded only one Church and promised that the gates of hell will not prevail against it, meaning that it will last forever? If you answered 'no' then you are firmly entrenched in John 6:66 simply because you do not believe He who said it. "Amen, amen, I say to you, he who enters not by the door to the sheepfold, but climbs up another way, is a thief and a robber. But he who enters by the door is shepherd of the sheep." John 10:1-2 The sheepfold represents His Church. Are you in the sheepfold, the one Church that He founded? Or did you 'climb up another way' by entering a church founded by a mere human person? Do you believe what Jesus said in those two verses? "I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me." John 17:20-23 What part of the word 'one' is simply not understood by so many? Do you agree that there is only ONE true Church that Jesus Christ founded? "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters." Luke 11:23 Are you 'gathered' into the one Church that Jesus founded? Or are you scattered among the other 40,000+ sects not founded by God that call themselves Christian? Those who do not follow His words, 'that they may be one' are those that scatter. Aren't those who left Him in John 6:66, scatterers? "Jesus said to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father, but by me." John 14:6 Do you believe Him when He said, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life'? Do you believe that He is the truth? If so, why are you not in His Church? "You search the Scriptures, because in them you think that you have life everlasting. And it is they that bear witness to Me, yet you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life." John 5:39-40 You come to Him by entering His one Church, the only Church with God given authority to speak in the behalf of God Himself. . "So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever." John 6:53-58 Those within His Church know Him because He is really present in the Holy Eucharist which is not a symbol by any means. Anywhere in the above text, is there even a hint of a symbolic gesture? Aren't those who eat what they are taught is merely a symbol of the real Body of Christ akin to those fathers who ate of the symbol and died? Aren't they subject to become a member of Club666? "And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Advocate to dwell with you forever, the Spirit of Truth WHOM THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT NEITHER SEES HIM NOR KNOWS HIM." John 14:16-17 Who are those who are called 'the World'? They are those who refuse to believe what He said and are therefore members of Club666. "He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." John 14:24-26 The first part of the first sentence sounds remarkably like John 6:66 where some of His disciples would not keep His words either and ended up walking away from Him. Would not you agree? I would say that these verses reinforce John 6:66 by adding the words 'He who does not love me'. "But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me; and you also are witnesses, because you have been with me from the beginning." John 15:26 Are you truly witnesses to ALL of what Jesus had to say to us or do you reject some of it? If you reject 'some of it' then you are truly entrenched in Club666. "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you." John 16:12-15 Does the 'Spirit of Truth' really dwell in your sect? If you believe He does, then how can you explain the differences in supposed truths in over 40,000 different sects? "But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican." Matthew 18:15-17 Which Church, His Church which has all truth or those human person founded sects which only have some of it? "And other sheep I have that are not of this fold. Them also I must bring, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd." John 10:16 That one verse expresses the theme of this entire page. Are you one of the sheep who are not of His fold? Jesus is pleading to us by saying I MUST BRING His 'other sheep' to His ONE FOLD and ONE SHEPHERD. Those who are not in His ONE FOLD are not listening to Him and so are firmly entrenched in the 666 Club. "Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also wish to go away?" Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life;" John 6:67-68 Do those verses say it all to you??? If so then we all must belong to the ONE FOLD with one Shepherd and have eternal life, or be forever a member of Club 666. The choice is yours!

[@frederickanderson1860]

@@biblealone9201 its all scripture only not by revelation by the holy Spirit, Peter was rebuked by jesus because he did not have the full revelation of his sacrifice, john the Baptist had that in a vision on the river Jordan , the dove symbol and the voice of this is my beloved hear ye him. Again you have not answered logically to my comparison. Satan done same by mis quoting scripture , Paul had same vision or revelation of jesus . Paul said same in Galatians he did not receive it from anyone but by revelation of jesus Christ the risen Christ. The rock is the revelation of jesus as the word made flesh, the antichrist Spirit denies both the Father and son. Jesus said upon this Rock l build MY church, not OUR church in the Roman Catholic interpretation. The city of the great king is Jerusalem not Rome . The Jerusalem from above is our true mother not Rome , epistle of Galatians chapter 4 v 26. Revelation chapter 12 v1 is that Jerusalem of above not mother Mary.

[@frederickanderson1860]

@@biblealone9201 again jesus came for those whom his heavenly Father had given him. Nothing to do with what denomination you belong, he came to set the captives free. Consider the Samaritan woman and his most famous parable of the good Samaritan, they were hated more than the Romans , same with the Roman centurion, jesus marvelled at his faith, that 2 examples of showing you don't have to belong to your Roman church, God is no respector of persons. If he did not spare the natural branches, dont boast against it, epistle of Romans chapter 11: 21-22. Your church boasted you the true church and Israel are forever cursed. Check out your church past history regarding the Jews the natural branches.

[@biblealone9201]

@@frederickanderson1860 Peter received a Three fold Blessing as well So much for Peter denying the sacrifice .” Jesus turns to the 12 and asks, “Will ye also go away? Simon Peter gives the same answer that I find myself saying to those who tell me I should leave the Catholic Church for this reason or that one, “Lord, to whom shall we go?” As Greek scholars-even non-Catholic ones-admit, the words petros and petra were synonyms in first century Greek. They meant "small stone" and "large rock" in some ancient Greek poetry, centuries before the time of Christ, but that distinction had disappeared from the language by the time Matthew’s Gospel was rendered in Greek. The difference in meaning can only be found in Attic Greek, but the New Testament was written in Koine Greek-an entirely different dialect. In Koine Greek, both petrosandpetrasimply meant "rock."If Jesus had wanted to call Simon a small stone, the Greek lithoswould have been used. The missionary’s argument didn’t work and showed a faulty knowledge of Greek. (For an Evangelical Protestant Greek scholar’s admission of this, see D. A. Carson, The Expositor’s Bible Commentary [Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1984], Frank E. Gaebelein, ed., 8:368). Beyond the grammatical evidence, the structure of the narrative does not allow for a downplaying of Peter’s role in the Church. Look at the way Matthew 16:15-19 is structured. After Peter gives a confession about the identity of Jesus, the Lord does the same in return for Peter. Jesus does not say, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are an insignificant pebble and on this rock I will build my Church. . . . I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven." Jesus is giving Peter a three-fold blessing, including the gift of the keys to the kingdom, not undermining his authority. To say that Jesus is downplaying Peter flies in the face of the context. Jesus is installing Peter as a form of chief steward or prime minister under the King of Kings by giving him the keys to the kingdom. As can be seen in Isaiah 22:22, kings in the Old Testament appointed a chief steward to serve under them in a position of great authority to rule over the inhabitants of the kingdom. Jesus quotes almost verbatum from this passage in Isaiah, and so it is clear what he has in mind. He is raising Peter up as a father figure to the household of faith (Is. 22:21), to lead them and guide the flock (John 21:15-17). This authority of the prime minister under the king was passed on from one man to another down through the ages by the giving of the keys, which were worn on the shoulder as a sign of authority. Likewise, the authority of Peter has been passed down for 2000 years by means of the papacy. Petros vs Petra Jesus spoke aramaic not Greek. The Aramaic leaves no room for the Petros/Petra distinction. In Aramaic the work for rock is Kepha(rock) and upon this Kepha(rock) I will build my church. Why does the Greek use two different words? because the Greek word for rock is feminine. The translator gave petra a masculine ending and rendered it petros. Petros was the preexisting word meaning "small stone". The Greek text is a translation of Jesus' words, which were actually spoken in Aramaic. Aramaic only had one word for rock, kephas (which is why Peter is often called Cephas in the Bible). The word Kephas in Aramaic means "huge rock." The Aramaic word for "little stone" is "evna," and Peter was not called "Evna" or "Envas" or anything like that. In Aramaic, Jesus said "You are Peter (Kephas) and upon this rock (kephas) I will build my Church." The metaphor worked well in Aramaic where nouns are neither feminine or masculine, but in Greek, the noun "rock" was feminine, and therefore unsuitable as a name for Peter. So the Aramaic wordKephas was translated to the masculine name Petros when it referred to Peter, and to the feminine noun petra when it referred to the rock. In ancient Koine Greek, petra and petros were total synonyms, unlike modern Attic Greek and unlike Ionic Greek which was about 400 year before Christ.😍😍

[@frederickanderson1860]

@@biblealone9201 again nothing to do with the Greek Aramaic or latin whatever language you use. The declaration is what John the Baptist received long before Peter jesus gave him the highest compliment " no man born of a woman was greater than he" yet John said about jesus was just as humble, am not t worthy to tie his sandals. Also john was the angel or messenger of Malachi' chapter 3. He was more than a prophet. Jesus said he that is least in the kingdom,is greater than john gospel of Matthew chapter 11v11. So in conclusion the stones are one of many in the building of the church, Christ is the corner stone.the precious stone. 1 Peter chapter 2: 4-7.

[@joecannes2421]

Not Scriptural whatsoever.its tradition plan and simple

[@lupelo8819]

THE CHICK TRACTS ARE SO TRUE AND TO THE POINT. I LOVE THEM. CATHOLICS SHOULD LEARN FROM THEM..!!

[@fantasia55]

too funny!

[@frederickanderson1860]

TheRembrence of The old covenent was the passover of isreal deliverence fRom egypt. They dont do it to react the same event. Jesus sacrifice is also not renacted also. The holy Spirit was promised after his sacrifice.

[@larrybedouin2921]

Jesus said "It is finished!" Not It is consummated. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: *Nor yet that he should offer himself often* as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; *For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world* but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So *Christ was ONCE OFFERED to bear the sins of many* and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. {Hebrews 9:24-28} Your unholy mass is an abomination unto God, for it denies the sufficiency of Christ one perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.

[@johnpro2847]

18:30 Was Jesus a god.?.almost certainly not..however his followers turned him into a god after his death by the Roman authorities...amen

[@c.Ichthys]

JESUS not "a god": He is God, the Word made flesh through which all creation was made. The Alpha and Omega, the I AM (YHWH).

[@juans6639]

As I've stated before; Protestants CLAIM to believe in Jesus Christ, BUT DON'T BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST. Mt.16:18, Jesus Christ and the Apostles founded HIS One and ONLY Catholic Church in 33A.D...Protestants DON'T BELIEVE THAT! They would rather believe in the over 70,000 False, Man Made, Reformed, Protestant, Religions and Churches. 1Cor.10:16; Is not the cup of blessing we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread we break a sharing in the body of Christ? 11:23-29; On the night he was betrayed, took bread, gave thanks broke it and said, This is my body which will be given up for you. In the same way after supper, he took the cup saying; This is the cup of the new covenant in MY BLOOD.....Jn.6:30-69, Our Lord Jesus Christ tells his disciples SEVEN TIMES that, that is his body, unless you eat his flesh, He is the bread come down from Heaven, His body is REAL FOOD and his BLOOD IS REAL DRINK......I REITERATE, PROTESTANTS DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST....BUT, THEY BELIEVE THEIR FALSE PASTORS!

[@universalflamethrower6342]

Think of Protestants as abdools

[@user-zi7gd9pn3l]

@@universalflamethrower6342 "Without lies, Islam dies." "Without lies, Protestantism dies."

[@universalflamethrower6342]

@@user-zi7gd9pn3l although in all honesty one day I prayed the Evangelical Shahada with some Evangelical street preachers on the street. It was something like Jesus is the way, the truth and life itself. And that lead me back to Church. First a Protestant Church with rock music, than Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox and eventually the Catholic Cathedral 10 min walking from my house.

[@joycegreer9391]

You have that backwards. R Cath pretend to believe in Jesus, but don't really. They don't believe the Gospel. They believe in the manmade doctrines of Catholicism instead of the Word of God. Protestants have the true faith. 70,000 is an extreme exaggeration. You have the manmade religion and false "pastors" with your popes and magisterium.

[@joycegreer9391]

@@universalflamethrower6342 Think of R Cath as gullible deceived idiots.

[@lupelo8819]

EVERYTHING CHICK TRACTS SAYS IS SO TRUE..!!

[@PInk77W1]

That’s why it’s a cartoon ? LoL

[@MikeyTrn-nv2xm]

Christian mean to be like Jesus not catholic christian

[@PInk77W1]

Jesus started one church The Roman Catholic Church

[@francissweeney7318]

The original texts of the bible refute the claims of catholic doctrine. Catholicism from the onset moved away from Jesus teachings. Read chapter 17 in the Book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ. It is the prophesy of God against the catholic church. Graven images are condemed in the Torsh presented by God to Moses. Making fun of God's work is anti christ.

[@Skibidivm_Latrinae]

temple of solomon:

[@PInk77W1]

The Roman Catholic Church is 100% against • gay marriage • trans • abortion • divorce • pre marital sex • women pastors • condoms

[@larrybedouin2921]

The Roman Catholic Eucharistic sacrament is like Moses striking the rock more than once. ...as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith God, that thou make all things according to *the pattern* shewed to thee in the mount. {Hebrews 8:5} The *sanctuary* [tabernacle] was a pattern of types and shadows of the heavenly temple, and Jesus Christ is the substance of those types and shadows. He is the door to the sanctuary; Jesus is the door to the Kingdom of heaven. He is the inner court surrounded by white linen; which is symbolic of being covered Christ prefect righteousness. He is our passover sacrificed for us on burnt alter for sacrifice. He is the laver for washing; symbolic of the rebirth, being born again of the Spirit. He is the table of Showbread; the two stacks of loves of bread are symbolic of the word of God (the bread of life) in two testaments / witnesses, also the twelve tribes of Israel and the twelve Apostles. He is the Lampstand; the oil being symbolic of his Spirit; the Lampstand symbolic of his light unto the world. He is our Altar of incense; making intercession for his saints. He is our Mercy seat covering the Ark of the covenant; Jesus is both our advocate standing for his saints with the Father and He is our judge in judment. Jesus Christ caused the sacrifices and their oblations to cease, (Dan 9:27) by his one perfect sacrifice. In contrast to the time of the Gentiles, wherefore the sanctuary of God is trodden under foot for forty and two months. How so? This church who calls herself the mother church, claims to be *the door* to salvation. And the white linen surrounding the inner court is the righteousness of Mary and the saints of the Roman church. She claims that Christ sacrifice and Atonement for sin was not sufficient, for she instituted seven (works) sacraments. She through infant baptism makes a mockery of the rebirth of the new man. Her Catechism thinks to replace the inspired word of God. Her prayers to dead saints and to Mary, thinks to replace Christ work of intercession at the altar of incense. Hers is a false spirit which thinks to cover the light of truth. This beast and her king think to change times and laws of God. And goeth into perdition.

[@PInk77W1]

Jesus said “as often as YOU do this.” My guess is u refuse to do it often

[@nathanegbert977]

I'm just gonna say, nobody knows this much about Scripture without being a Seventh-day Adventist.

[@larrybedouin2921]

@@nathanegbert977 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. {Revelation 12:17} ... worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

[@PInk77W1]

@@larrybedouin2921 The Queen stands at your right hand Arrayed in GOLD. Psalm 45. “A woman clothed with the Sun” Rev. 12 “Every generation SHALL call me blessed.” Lk 1

[@nathanegbert977]

@@larrybedouin2921 I was thinking about that this morning actually, and realized that despite the Pontiff claiming to be the living revelation of God on Earth, and despite the system referring to itself as the Holy See, you will never hear him say "I saw" or "I was shown". He never claims to be the recipient of light... which implies he IS the light. Catholicism believes Christ gave us a church by which He dispenses His word. Whereas we understand that Christ gave us His word by which He dispenses His church.

[@MikeyTrn-nv2xm]

Jesus the mam is not christian he was just a Jew and no religions of the world associated with him and or God himself

[@c.Ichthys]

The definition of "Christian" is a disciple (follower) of Christ. In Acts we the word Christian first used. Before that followers of Jesus Christ were called "followers of the Way". So naturally Jesus Christ was not a Christian because He is the Way the Truth and the Life, our God Incarnate, our Lord and Saviour.

[@MikeyTrn-nv2xm]

@@c.Ichthys Jesus is God manifested in the flesh

[@c.Ichthys]

@@MikeyTrn-nv2xm Jesus is God Incarnate, the Word made flesh as the Gospel of John records.

[@MikeyTrn-nv2xm]

@@c.Ichthys Jesus Christ is God before he was manifested in the flesh God is a Spirit he is not a man that is human for no man can be God for the nature of spirit is not the nature of a flesh and the nature of flesh is not the nature of Spirit

[@MikeyTrn-nv2xm]

@@c.Ichthys Jesus is not God the Son for the Bible say neither is he God the Son of man the he should repent

[@lupelo8819]

ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DIDN'T EXIST DURING THE APOSTLES LIVES.THERE WAS NO ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH,THERE WAS NO POPE,NO STATUE OF MARY,NO ROSARY,NO SUCCESSORS OF PETER,NO EUCHARIST..,ETC;..ETC;..!! ACTS 2:47 PRAISING GOD,AND HAVING FAVOUR WITH ALL THE PEOPLE .AND THE LORD ADDED TO THE "CHURCH" DAILY SUCH AS SHOUD BE SAVED.CHRIST' CHURCH WAS ALREADY IN THE MAKING.ACTS 9:31..THEN HAD THE "CHURCHES" REST THROUGHOUT ALL JUDEA AND GALILEE AND SAMARIA,AND.WERE EDIFIED;AND WALKING IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD,AND IN THE COMFORT OF THE HOLY GHOST, WERE MULTIPLIED. CHRIST CHURCH WAS MULTIPLYING AT THE APOSTLES PREACHING.ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DIDN'T EXIST DURING THE APOSTLES LIVES..!! CHRIST' CHURCH IS THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH BUILD ON THE ROCK.

[@biblealone9201]

Saint Ignatius (35-107), the second Bishop of Antioch wrote a letter to the Smyrneans in 107 A.D.. In this letter is recorded the first known use of the words "Catholic Church"... St Ignatius is a holy and blessed martyr for the gospel. St Peter himself appointed Ignatius as bishop of Antioch. The Church of Antioch was a well-established stronghold of the gospel and firmly ground in apostolic teaching. So was St Ignatius a member of your true church? No, he was a DECLARED CATHOLIC who stood up for the Divinity of Christ and for the Real Presence of the Body & Blood of Christ in the Eucharist. I'll stick with the authority of the successors of the apostles.❤❤

[@lingsuyen9509]

@@biblealone9201 Lupe Lo is incapable of reasoning. He is here as a troll. And If you don't mind your nickname Bible Alone makes me think you are a Protestant.

[@therese6447]

Kepha...rock...it was Peter....and the keys to the kingdom to bind and loose were bestowed upon Peter and the Catholic Church by Christ hismelf. This mirrors the office and authority of the Davidic Kingdom..King David had a prime minister...Jesus prime minister was Peter..Pope Peter...Pope means Pappa father.

[@andreeattieh2963]

I'm Catholic period

[@JesusfoundedCatholicChurch]

Acts 9:31 Original Greek ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ καθʼ ὅλης These Greek words formed the English words "Catholic Church" You're welcome

[@johnrowland9570]

Trent this was a very poor presentation. You deal with hardly any passages of scripture. I agree with you that Chick's tracts , no matter how sincere, are pathetic.

[@mitromney]

Ah, classic Trent. Pope Francis can plead, cry and beg as much as he wants for us to stop fighting with our seperated Bretheren, but instead to show eachother love, to build bridges and spread ecumenism. After all we share one Spirit, pray to the same trinitarian God, and are baptised into the same body of Christ with One Baptism. But of course, Trent and the rest of the Catholic Answers crew could not care less. It's their core job to ridicule, mock, laugh at and belittle them, that's what is popular after all and it makes money.

[@461weavile]

It's called tough love. You don't love somebody by watching him slam his nose on a glass door. You shout or you physically block him.

[@ironymatt]

You are misrepresenting Trent, and Catholic answers.

[@joeoleary9010]

@@461weavile But your analogy doesn't fit; according to CA, the Catholic church is being "attacked" by fundamentalists. Poor church that is forever being "attacked" by Christians who have the temerity to think for themselves.

[@ChrisEAdlay]

So we'll just let everyone attack us and never defend our doctrines? Makes a lot of sense