António Félix da Costa Disqualification Explained | Misano E-Prix

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Formula E

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Ай бұрын

Following the disqualification of António Félix da Costa in the Round 6 Misano E-Prix due to a breach in the technical regulations, Karun Chandhok and Nicki Shields explain the difference in the legal and illegal springs.
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@Definitiv33
@Definitiv33 Ай бұрын
This disqualification is complete BS. No specification change should be done without communication. A Disqualification may be Part of the official rules, but in my opinion FIA should have investigated on that and give a way milder penalty to Porsche..
@AadidevSooknananNXS
@AadidevSooknananNXS Ай бұрын
THIS
@123priyesh
@123priyesh Ай бұрын
What an absolute joke
@Einveldi
@Einveldi Ай бұрын
Seemingly random disqualifications have been a massive problem for Formula E. Remember the ridiculous race in Puebla where Wehrlein drove faultlessly lights-to-flag and was disqualified on the line for a technical infringement that happened before the start? It's just another example. Yes, rules are rules. But the rules clearly need to be improved because we're watching whole races where the winner just gets thrown out afterwards, seemingly at random. It's been a factor in denting my interest in the series.
@mildonado
@mildonado Ай бұрын
they bend the rules as they seem fit
@shock7496
@shock7496 Ай бұрын
This incident clearly highlights how the FIA treats this series as a joke, if they were serious and strict about their rules they'd have way better comunication with the teams and way better inspections and procedures Or things like overspending like in Tokio Factors that can be ourside teams control and lack of adaptability from the rule makers to evolve alongside this sport
@vl3005
@vl3005 Ай бұрын
At what point does FE say "You know what FIA? You're ruining our product - FUCK OFF!" I know the FIA is also a main sponsor, but judging by your comment alone - this type of rule enforcing DETERS viewers from the sport potentially losing revenue in the long term. Surely, they need to review these things.
@garysanderson5774
@garysanderson5774 Ай бұрын
@@vl3005 the FIA is not the main sponsor, they are the govermental body/series owner Good luck racing without them
@nonamebrand1633
@nonamebrand1633 Ай бұрын
@@vl3005 Unfortunately FE doesn't have that luxury. The championship is run and sanctioned by the FIA, unlike F1 where it's only sanctioned by the FIA. If F1 truly ever gets fed up, they could in theory tell the FIA to fck off and govern themselves. The FIA needs F1, not the other way around. FE on the other hand, truly needs the FIA. Without it a lot of ppl would see this series as illegitimate
@ninthundertow
@ninthundertow Ай бұрын
That's insane. Hope the appeal goes well...
@livef1fan473
@livef1fan473 Ай бұрын
Context: António Félix da Costa was denied entry into F1 because of Russian money given to Red Bull. António Félix da Costa is a Formula E world champion who was denied entry into this years WEC season because of Porsche want to focus on muh Formula E. António Félix da Costa is disqualified for a rule that would've got the entire grid disqualified...
@AnarRamazanov-po5le
@AnarRamazanov-po5le Ай бұрын
Really unlucky for a driver of his caliber
@jeffmotsinger8203
@jeffmotsinger8203 Ай бұрын
A small fine would have sufficed. Complete disqualification is too much.
@vwtroll
@vwtroll Ай бұрын
Absolutely mental that it is notified to the teams when something is added, but not when something is removed. Shame on the FIA.
@shmet
@shmet Ай бұрын
The question is: was he the only car with the "illegal" spring?
@livef1fan473
@livef1fan473 Ай бұрын
We all know that answer...
@AnimilesYT
@AnimilesYT Ай бұрын
​@@livef1fan473 So I don't exist? I don't know the answer.
@luvilela1278
@luvilela1278 Ай бұрын
​@@AnimilesYT The awnser is we never know, because one was taken, but since the focus is now in one car the rest is safe and already knows that that piece is illegal and the line in whatever page it was said of that Spring Throttle on the parts catalog was removed, the teams dodged a bullet because Porsche got it all. So they're in some way shielded. Correct me if I'm wrong, because that's my perspective.
@jaedencadogan4775
@jaedencadogan4775 Ай бұрын
I bet there were so many cars that had the old spring
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki Ай бұрын
There were more, but you need to be in the podium to get punished.
@F1Guy-Guy
@F1Guy-Guy Ай бұрын
It meant if the championship leader Pascal won the 1st race he would of been DSQ yet again like every year
@heartofdawn2341
@heartofdawn2341 Ай бұрын
The FIA definitely has a habit of playing favorites. See "Ferrari International Assistance" in F1
@samturpie1756
@samturpie1756 Ай бұрын
Wehrlein lost a win in 2021 because Porsche didn’t tell the FIA which tyres they were using, He was DSQ’d right after he crossed the line. Formula E really needs to get a grip and sort out these ridiculous penalties and disqualifications
@UberManlyPirate
@UberManlyPirate Ай бұрын
"Sport is Sport and Rules are Rules" This is bs. How does this help the sport? A freaking spring. clown sport
@samturpie1756
@samturpie1756 Ай бұрын
Exactly 💯 if anything this just sacrifices the integrity and sporting aspect of FE. If you can have a superb win taken away from something so minor then what’s the point in even racing 🤷‍♂️
@mildonado
@mildonado Ай бұрын
rules are rules but FIA is not consistent
@F1Guy-Guy
@F1Guy-Guy Ай бұрын
Rules like SC laps were not given when it would have suited the Porsches teams calculations of management.
@Lync512
@Lync512 Ай бұрын
FIA doing FIA things as usual
@dagerg_8
@dagerg_8 Ай бұрын
It's a joke. A joke!!!!!
@MSiAventador
@MSiAventador Ай бұрын
The circus of FIA inspectors has left, April 1 remains.
@AnimilesYT
@AnimilesYT Ай бұрын
Even a 5 second time penalty would've been harsh. Disqualification for something so negligible is simply outrageous
@pavelskrylnikov9658
@pavelskrylnikov9658 Ай бұрын
That was a complete and utter joke, a disaster for the series. And Fe... Why wasn't Wehrlein DSQd then?
@a7G-82r
@a7G-82r Ай бұрын
Because he wasnt top 3 and therefore couldnt get an official punishable offense
@bananaking4955
@bananaking4955 Ай бұрын
When Wehrlein was disqualified because of the wrong set of tires declared, even though they were the exact same tires as everyone else, fair enough it was a dumb mistake fully on Porsche. But in this particular instance the supplier is just as much as fault as the team. Like Karun said, a warning to all the teams that had been supplied older springs at the beginning of the season would have been the sensible thing to do. I hope that Porsche does appeal and win the case.
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki Ай бұрын
Sim racing pedals are more advanced? :-D
@nmfl100
@nmfl100 Ай бұрын
What a joke.
@AlexNH56
@AlexNH56 Ай бұрын
Man that’s messed up!!
@TiagoAndreF
@TiagoAndreF Ай бұрын
António Félix da Costa was the winner! 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹
@nmfl100
@nmfl100 Ай бұрын
Yes.
@ChrisBigBad
@ChrisBigBad Ай бұрын
This sounds like a document handling error. Changes must be high-lighted - especially in a document this complex. Don't punish DAC for FIA managing their rule-book badly :(
@vexaurora
@vexaurora Ай бұрын
Sportsmanship does not emerge from a bureaucrat's pencil, shameful
@gonsalox_pt6503
@gonsalox_pt6503 Ай бұрын
Why provide something that won't be allowed? Not very eco-friendly.
@MaxiF.
@MaxiF. Ай бұрын
Really crazy what an underneath body or an suspension spring can make impact the race results
@wandererslegion
@wandererslegion Ай бұрын
Imagine if Antonio was from a big country. Let that sink in
@kevinbernardo1197
@kevinbernardo1197 Ай бұрын
This is why this sport won't evolve. These random BS DQ's for a reason that, if tested, would get every car. But for some reason, it always happens to the same guys... Probably just lost him the drive for next year. It was 25 lost points that were very important to him and for his future at Porsche
@brunopaiva9203
@brunopaiva9203 Ай бұрын
That's complete BS. I hope for the sake of the Formula E this will be reversed!
@ajthevillageidiot
@ajthevillageidiot Ай бұрын
TIL FIA are reddit moderators
@nonamebrand1633
@nonamebrand1633 Ай бұрын
Lmfao what else is new
@RaSeti
@RaSeti Ай бұрын
António Félix da Costa Disqualification Explained (short version): António Félix da Costa comes from a small country and never had the influence or money that other drivers have, so, they can punish him all they want without retaliation. (He also missed out on F1 for the same reasons)
@rcorreia80
@rcorreia80 Ай бұрын
True Story...
@diogosanto6614
@diogosanto6614 Ай бұрын
Please stop with this small country stuff. Makes us look pathetic. It's unfortunate, and I hope that the appeal works, but they broke the rules. Are you saying that Germany is also a small country, when Pascal was disqualified in Mexico 2021?
@analogikkortex
@analogikkortex Ай бұрын
*PORTUGAL CARALHO!* Portugal yeah
@garysanderson5774
@garysanderson5774 Ай бұрын
he missed on F1 cause Sainz and Verstappen cleared his ass in the academy lol
@The_Curious_Cat
@The_Curious_Cat Ай бұрын
@@garysanderson5774 You clearly don't know much about F1 history. Da Costa didn't race with Sainz or Max. He was ahead of them in the overall RB driver roster by a few years. He's contemporary with Vergne, Kvyat and Ricciardo. He was going to F1 in 2014, but RB chose Kvyat that didn't have half his success in the lower formulas. After that they didn't even gave him a chance to show his potential, they sent him to drive heavy cars in DTM. Pretty much just a big middle finger to him. Meanwhile Kvyat was just another footnote on F1, only being known for warming the RB seat for Max.
@The_Curious_Cat
@The_Curious_Cat Ай бұрын
Now that they explained it it's even more of a BS decision by the FIA. They remove a part, don't say it and the teams just need to re-read everything to not be caught off-guard? What hell is this? Plus it's a part that has zero performance advantage. And they still give a penalty as harsh as that, when they are also at fault for the lack of communication about a part being removed? What a load of BS.
@dylanzwering2255
@dylanzwering2255 Ай бұрын
That pole beam in the background to me is a design flaw
@drivingduck2234
@drivingduck2234 Ай бұрын
Formula e has an avereage of 4 DSQ per season, the higher of any fia saccion category, This tell me that more than a fia problem there are some mjaor issues in the way the rule book is written
@drivingduck2234
@drivingduck2234 Ай бұрын
What pisses me of is the amaut of drivers passing the track limits on this weekend and the fia saind, no everything is fine
@Nick18Racing
@Nick18Racing Ай бұрын
This entire comment section is justice. Wish upon the appeal. Can’t change rules without telling people.
@irawanwijaya7951
@irawanwijaya7951 Ай бұрын
Wtf!
@nonamebrand1633
@nonamebrand1633 Ай бұрын
People defending this decision and chanting "rules are rules" have clearly never stopped to ponder the difference between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law i.e. the rules are there to prevent anyone from gaining an advantage. Porsche broke the rules, but didn't gain any advantage. If fairness is what these ppl truly want, then just hand DAC a pitlane start for the next event. That punishes him but lets him keep the win
@piotrkobielus6156
@piotrkobielus6156 Ай бұрын
@jesperhammarlund300
@jesperhammarlund300 Ай бұрын
I mean why don't the tems literally hire someone who is basically a regulations watcher. looking at the rules pressing F5 on the keyboard constantly. to see if FIA has done any changes.. so yeah it is a team sport and rules are rules it's up to the teams to follow them. so im 100% with FIA/stewards on this one. this is the same with vettel in F1 when he lost 2nd place in a race where his fuel level was not enough to have a sample. well the team should not have overlooked that. people always think F1/FE is easy. just drive the car from A to B. well its a bit more than that.
@garysanderson5774
@garysanderson5774 Ай бұрын
They do, it's called the sporting department
@livef1fan473
@livef1fan473 Ай бұрын
Formula E deserves to be irrelevant. They did it to themselves. They had every opportunity to compete with F1 right when everyone got fed up the DTS Liberty Media BS.
@nonamebrand1633
@nonamebrand1633 Ай бұрын
This is less on FE and more on the FIA. FE is a great sport mired by poor operations
@JorgeLourenco000
@JorgeLourenco000 Ай бұрын
FIA being the usual joke.
@MSiAventador
@MSiAventador Ай бұрын
All simracers sympathize with Felix. (The rite of initiation into real simracers involves personal adjustment of the pedals.)
@pedromrocha
@pedromrocha Ай бұрын
Everyone apart from FIA agrees that this disqualification is BS.
@rcorreia80
@rcorreia80 Ай бұрын
a JOKE!!!!
@F1Guy-Guy
@F1Guy-Guy Ай бұрын
That is so unfair race 1 Porsche DSQ after winning and then race 2 where no additional laps were given after Pascal Wehrlein managed to harvest the most amount of energy to get himself to the end unlike Oliver Rowland who had rules bent to help him after the SC
@gabrielrodolfobruno5875
@gabrielrodolfobruno5875 Ай бұрын
VAMOS NISSAN Y SACHA FENESTRAZ TODAVIA
@DavidSmith-gx5mu
@DavidSmith-gx5mu Ай бұрын
Bodied DAC
@mirk042
@mirk042 Ай бұрын
Typical FIA BS.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 Ай бұрын
I don't feel sorry for Porsche (a company with a history of skirting the rules in motorsport for over 55 years, dating back to the old WSC/WCfM days) here, people need to learn how to READ once more. If you miss a written, edited or amended line in the regulations that risks the penalty of disqualification if you fail to heed it, that's on YOU and YOUR TEAM being idiots. Oh and for the crybabies in the comments, life's not fair and "I didn't know" is not a credible legal defence in any environment.
@AlfieSimracing
@AlfieSimracing Ай бұрын
As Karun clearly stated in it though, it's just using common sense and realising that it's a non issue... It was a part supplied to them at the start of the season which had no bearing on performance and shouldn't be treated as that. Just because it was Porsche has no impact on anything, these decisions shouldn't carry bias.
@nunoggp2011
@nunoggp2011 Ай бұрын
People like you are responsible for making all of us afraid of AI. Not a human brain. You ned urgently to find health assistence
@SpaceManta_
@SpaceManta_ Ай бұрын
@@AlfieSimracing yea, its not like they chose that specific spring, they couldn't get the other one because not enough were made as Karun says in the video
@damag3plan
@damag3plan Ай бұрын
FIA at its finest🙄
@fungipolo
@fungipolo Ай бұрын
Get some new annoucers...these two are a joke😢
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