Anthony Aguirre - Did the Universe Begin?

[@UriyahRecords]

4:16 the zoom in on Robert looking at Anthony like "wtf is he talking about" is priceless 😂

[@Jinxed007]

😂😂

[@WayneLynch69]

Everyone loves Robert...BUT! WTF not answer the question so pregnant that no one will ask it ("hey...we've got mortgages"). Thermodynamics was said by Einstein "to be the ONE theory of universal content which will never be overthrown". 1st Law disallows heat from cold. 2nd Law demands heat distribute to cold. THIS UNIVERSE OF HEAT cannot have begun or be eternal (it would have distributed exclusively to wave...it hasn't). AND NO ONE HAS EVER CHALLENGED, MUCH LESS SUCCEEDED, IN INFLECTING THERMODYNAMICS

[@alexbourdeau4438]

Nice! I started exploring astronomy as a preteen. At that time, the Steady State was head to head with the Big Bang. Steady State was more intellectual satisfying for me. Then we discovered the CMBR and the Steady State faded away. Now, decades later, it makes a comeback. I am intellectually satisfied.

[@surendrakverma555]

Thanks 🙏

[@ronaldohlund1985]

Thanks Robert! Anthony is so nice to listen to.

[@ravingcyclist624]

I checked my calendar and the universe is scheduled to begin thursday after next. 🙂

[@sylvestermumba981]

Some things cannot be explained with reason

[@tybeedave]

only in personal or emotional realities, true. In Nature's Reality, all things can be explained with reason.

[@sirgerbilmacintosh9101]

I'm a gerbil.

[@jelleludolf]

Alright let's see how far we can get with reason anyway.

[@jeremymanson1781]

Marmite

[@tomjackson7755]

@@jelleludolf You can make up nearly anything you want with reason. Look at what all the different forms of theists have been doing for millennia.

[@Joshua-by4qv]

Robert should have background music of I still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For.

[@carlcat]

In the 20th century Issac Asimov said "The Universe always was and always will be". Dude was ahead of his time.

[@chaunceygardner2342]

I knew it in my youth when I probed infinity

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

can learn about big bang start of local region from CMB, and the inflation that that led to it

[@FCBertrandJr]

Only after understanding the IKEA directions.

[@Sanchy72]

Inflation is so cool

[@keith.anthony.infinity.h]

Well if you think about it we are asking questions about the universe when we have access only to the observable universe as light takes huge amounts of time to reach us over grand distances. So how can we ask about the universe when we only observe a finite part of it? Not only that but the word beginning evokes an idea of a point in time but how can we ask if the universe has a beginning at some point in time when we have not even questioned our understanding of time as a dimension itself. What if time as a dimension beyond that scale of reality behaves completely different from how we expect or what if time as a dimension is irrelevant at that scale? So we could be asking these questions from a place of ignorance. It is kind of like having your hands tied in a dark room while being dragged down with chains locked to the floor and you continually attempt to race to the door of the room to leave without realizing you have to get untied and find the key to unlock the locks of the chains first in order to make your way out of the door. As scientists not only must we be careful about the answers we give but also about the questions we ask in terms of our ignorance.

[@blusheep2]

You can ask about a point in time in the universe's finite past because the referent point is the time that exists as a part of the universe. So at one point in the "universe's" finite past, it did not exist.

[@keith.anthony.infinity.h]

@@blusheep2 But you are assuming that you understand how time works at that scale. How do you know time itself works as you think it does? How do you know time even exists as a part of the universe at that point? How can you make such bold claims about the universe when you are limited in your observation of the universe as a whole? What if your observed part of the universe has a finite past but the universe as a whole does not?

[@blusheep2]

@@keith.anthony.infinity.h Give me a reason to believe that time stops working at those scales and I will consider it. As far as I can tell there is not reason to believe time stops working. One form of an argument from ignorance is "it could possibly be.....x" without any justification for x. Right now our current science suggests that time and space are intricately dependent on one another and that at some point in the finite past all space was curved to the infinite. That is the current science and that is all I have to work with. I must follow the evidence. So maybe you have been confused by talks of a "singularity" that exists at the point of the Big Bang. The problem is that a "singularity" isn't a thing even though people talk about it as if it is. "Singularity" is just word we use to represent a mathematical trend to the infinite with regards to space/time. "Infinity" is another interesting word because it also doesn't exist. It is just a word that represents an immeasurable series. So when scientists calculate the universe into the past, what is their Zero point. Think about it. You have the number 0. If you calculate forward, you have positive numbers and if you calculate backwards you have negative numbers. If you keep subtracting 1, over an over, you will eventually reach infinity. You won't reach 0 because 0 is where you started from and there isn't more then one 0. So when physicists calculate the universe backwards, where is their 0 point? If the universe had a beginning you would expect the zero point to be at the beginning, right? The problem is, that the beginning is what they are trying to find. We don't know when it began initially. So the Zero point becomes the present. The future is calculated with positive numbers and the past with negative. Since, the present or Now becomes our zero point then what would a beginning of the universe look like mathematically? Answer: The math will trend towards the infinite. That is, it will become immeasurably small. When the Zero Point is Now, there is no better definition for the universe not existing(or beginning) then when the math trends to the infinite. Its the best definition under these circumstance for "nothing." Think about it this way. The universe is a composite object. It is contingent because the parts that make up the universe are all contingent and contingent objects don't create necessary objects that MUST exist. In the universe we have space, time and matter, but in an infinitely/immeasurably small universe where does the matter fit? All matter is made up of "parts" that have dimension, but if the universe of the past is immeasurably small... that is, it has no measurement then how is it possible for something with dimension to exist as a part. We can speculate all day long about "what ifs" (Of course God must be a part of that "what if" speculation as well, if your going to be consistent), but that is just unfounded conjecture. Show the evidence instead of placing imagination into a perceived gap.

[@5thEncounter]

Before time began... that alone is a strange concept if the Universe has yet to begin... what is the Universe waiting for to begin?

[@anteodedi8937]

Before time began, someone must be talking about a causal beginning, not a temporal beginning. Temporality doesn't apply anymore. Though you may try to shut down such a thing by arguing that causality is a temporal relation, or it is related to temporality.

[@5thEncounter]

@@anteodedi8937 I'm stuck on the statement if there is no time, there is no reason to start something, such as a Big Bang, every other theory applies equally to this one

[@tybeedave]

@@5thEncounter get by that mud by realizing that time existed before our universe.

[@abelincoln.2064]

Time, space(3d), Laws of Nature, matter & energy ... are natural Functions ... with clear purpose, rules & design (information) which is the "rational & logical" reason Mankind's belief in "the gods" for thousands of years. Atheism began in Europe during the French Revolution ... where the "frogs" rejected God, Bible, Church and embraced Humanism & Naturalism. Again. We have religions because everything including Man's body has clear purpose, rules & design. And a Religion, politics, Arts, Science, Commerce, Culture ... are Functions ... with clear purpose, rules, design ... made by an intelligence for a reason. Time ... is part of a Natural Function called the Universe ... made by a timeless, infinite, eternal Unnatural Intelligence ( ie God). So before Time, space, Matter, energy, & Laws of Nature that is our Universe ... there was only the Unnatural Intelligence called God of the Bible. This is why Christianity is now the world's largest religion, with Christians developing the Sciences we have today and Christians developiong the free civilized world of, by & for the People created equal with inalienable rights. But Man has freewill & selfish nature ... to follow & obey God (Bible) or Man (Ways, nature, will, ideologies, religions, politics). Timelessness, infinity, & eternal are properties of the Unnatural which the Universe is not. It is impossible for the Universe to be "infinite" and this was confirmed with the Laws of Thermodynamic where the Universe is the only known Isolated Thermodynamic System (Function) with finite matter & energy and increasing entropy. It is impossible for an Isolated Thermodynamic System to be infinite ... as this would produce impossible reversible thermodynamic processes producing ... constant entropy ( no decay). Everything in the Universe decays

[@whitejohhnmjerkins]

Right, there is no reference frame for the universe if there is no time. 1 second is the same as 1 year is the same as the age of the universe now is the same as not existing at all. Like, what? Time MUST have existed before or it would have not existed at all.

[@keithwalmsley1830]

How could there be inflation before the Big Bang? I was always under the impression that all time and space was created at the Big Bang, where exactly did this inflation take place?

[@Mus4shi15]

How could you ever think this is an easy question? OK cool, big bang. But what about before??????

[@tybeedave]

the motherverse

[@shannon7002]

In beginning “TIME” God created the “HEAVEN” and the “EARTH”

[@stephenzhao5809]

2:46 ... so if this inflation process is going on these singularity theorems are out the window so then you have to ask okay what are the possibilities for how long inflation went on before inflation ended and regular big bang that we all know and love began and the answer is between you know some tiny fraction of a second and infinite amount of time so so we're back to the beginning (yeah I don't know how do you get the infinite possibly an infinite amount of time) the reason is that inflation once it gets started can essentially become like a steady state model 3:23 so inflation is something where the universe in a given amount of time double its size and then it doules again and doubles again (in a very very small of a second) in a very tiny fraction of a second (so in one second how many times would it double I mean) in one second it might be 10 to the 20 times (right right right) 3:41 that sort of behavior that so-called exponential growth has the property that it sort of always looks the same just like the steady state model if you say how long did it take the universe to double in size that's something you can observe that's a number you can associate with the universe at any given time that number is always the same during inflation so in that sense the universe just keeps doing the same thing it's getting bigger it's expanding but it's properties that you can observe locally always look kind of the same so in that sense it's just like the steady state then 4:16 the question is how do you get out of that and into you know the universe that we see so you have to understand whatever is making inflation happen the physics behind inflation how does that also alow inflation to end in some time and in some place 4:29 and create what we might call the big bang a bunch of hot radiation and matter and so on 4:38 so how do you get an infinite amount of time prior to the start of inflation (right) so which makes it mimic a steady state universe and blurs a beginning right AA: right suppose you take some region of the universe and say okay I'm going to set it up so that it's going to do this inflation process what you can show is that that inflation process in many versions you know many ways you can set up the conditions for it will go on forever it'll just keep going and going and going now it may here and there stop inflation (right) and create some little pocket or something (and that universe will have its own little big bang) exactly (whereas other places it would be it would continue to inflate) exactly 5:25 (so point is we don't know which were we are among that group so we might be in later in inflating universe so the beginning of our big bang which is the end of our local inflation is not the same thing as all these other inflations going on all over the place) precisely (is that is that why we don't know how we havea where where the beginning is if there is one) so we we know where the beginning of our local region is where it got hot and then it turned into inflation backgroud so that happened 13.7 billion years ago we got a good handle on that what we don't know is what's happening elsewhere and what happened before that and so if we if this inflation goes on forever in the future then you can reasonably ask why did it have to start at all right if it sort of becomes a steady state why not just say it was a steady state it's always been happening and it always will be happening.

[@AJ-ku7nm]

Last time I was this early the universe began. Or did it?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

might help to call start of this big bang, inflation and other events different names

[@tybeedave]

Aye Aye! imo, Our Universe began within the MotherVerse in the realm of Lord Good, the Great.

[@anthonyclegg1511]

Run that past me again with some crayons and a colouring. book.

[@kylebushnell2601]

Hehehe

[@tybeedave]

scribble scribble

[@adama8570]

In order to have a beginning there must be something before in order to define a beginning as such so the question is semantically meaningless!

[@dontveter3372]

The universe is a block universe. From the book, Time and Space Second Edition by Barry Dainton, McGill-Queen's University Press, Montreal & Kingston, Ithaca, 2010, page 129, he talks about the creation of a block universe: Imagine that I am a God-like being who has decided to design and then create a logically consistent universe with laws of nature similar to those that obtain in our universe...Since the universe will be of the block-variety I will have to create it as a whole: the beginning, middle and end will come into being together ... Now, since we are in a block universe, the Big Bang and what is present now, and what is already in the future, all appeared at once. The idea that our universe came from a Big Bang is out. But nobody wants to face reality. The Big Bang creation story is much more comforting.

[@MichaelWallace-g9r]

And on the third day he arose and if he sees his shadow there will be six more weeks of bad weather

[@aBeatleFan4ever]

Since I was 15 years old... I have believed that time and space are infinite (no beginning and no end). Always were... always will be... I think people who feel otherwise... are simply seeing just a small part of the picture.

[@brothermine2292]

Hasn't it occurred to you that your own belief may be due to seeing "just part of the picture?" In other words, you don't seem to be aware of reasons to doubt your belief.

[@aBeatleFan4ever]

@@brothermine2292 - Give me a reason. I've heard many... but the "experts" in 1900 had their version of what the universe is... which was vastly different to what the "experts" thought in 1940... or 1980... or 2024. Seems it is always based on their limited view of what they happened to be able to "see and understand" at a particular time.

[@brothermine2292]

>aBeatleFan4ever : Why should I give you a reason? You didn't identify a reason to believe the past is infinite. What's the "bigger picture" that you alluded to?

[@aBeatleFan4ever]

@@brothermine2292 - You wrote this: "you don't seem to be aware of reasons to doubt your belief." You mentioned "reasons" in your response. So I asked for those "reasons"... but you then say why should I. Seems you have nothing to say... or add - to the discussion.

[@aBeatleFan4ever]

And if you think that the past is not infinite... why don't you tell us why you know that to be true. Please enlighten us all.

[@sticks2478]

We have Einstein's theory of relativity and we have quantum mechanics..one discribes the large, one describes the small. Both exist at the same time in this universe yet we can't marry the two together. I don't think we are close at all to solving this.

[@kingklank6732]

Some reasoning is very hard to explain .

[@chaunceygardner2342]

It’s expanding but only locally after a birth

[@Chris-te3ce]

I think there always was something maybe a cycle it ends and then begins again I cannot imagine that there was nothing really nothing and then the universe came thats why I think there was always something what I dont understand is that this channel doesnt have millions of views

[@XYisnotXX]

How did we get to today then? I'm confused 😂

[@hobarttobor686]

How many angels can stand on the point of a pin?

[@brothermine2292]

This was a good interview, except for Aguirre trying to establish an equivalence between "eternal inflation" and the steady state model. The steady state universe had no beginning and always existed, but the eternal inflation multiverse may have had a beginning. Aguirre explicitly acknowledged this when he said an unknown number between 0 and infinity should be added to the 14 billion years age of our universe to get the age of the multiverse.

[@simonhibbs887]

Alexander Vilenkin has offered a proof that inflation can only be eternal into the future, but must converge on a finitely remote origin in the past.

[@tybeedave]

"between nothing and everything is everything", except for when there isn't room for everything. too many particle-creation events brought so many particles onto being that the boundary of our universe expanded exponentially at a velocity in excess of c. that took time. the span of a few planck periods of time seems likely.

[@brothermine2292]

>simonhibbs887 : If you mean the Borde-Guth-Vilenkin theorem, its degree of generality is controversial. Guth, for instance, thinks the past is infinite.

[@simonhibbs887]

@@brothermine2292 True, but not necessarily inflation. It’s a complex picture, lots to still work out.

[@abelincoln.2064]

It's all the same Atheist bs as even with the Big Bang they keep making up fairy tales for a natural origin not "intelligent design" making the Universe still infinite going through endless cycles. Atheism began in Europe during the French Revolution. Prior to the 1800's ... most People around the world believe only in "the gods" because everything including Man's body has clear purpose, rules & design (information). Universal Functions is the hypothesis for all Machine Analogies and it proves the origin of the Universe & Life ... is Unnatural ... and by a very powerful intelligence. Space, time, laws of nature, matter & energy ... are natural Functions ... with clear purpose, rules & design (information). Timelessness, infinity, & eternity are properties of the Unnatural. Universal Functions defines the properties of the Natural & Unnatural existence. Saying the Universe is infinite and always existed is simply fantasy & fairy tales. And from Atheism were got Socialism, Humanism, Naturalism, Communism, Fascism and today progressive Liberals running every nation of the free "christian based" world. All of the world works, and the rise of Communist Regimes with nukes threatening the free world ... is due entirely to Liberals from France, Britain & US in the late 1700's. It was during the 1800's ... the Atheism & Humanism ... arose from Europe replacing God, Bible, Church and Traditional Family values.

[@OBGynKenobi]

The universe has always been, were just an offshoot arm of it which started with the big bang. Possibly the other side of a black hole in the main core of the universe.

[@guitarpick335]

Time was created so that there could be an ever changing universe for all things possible to occur. It’s creation was required prior to the changeable universe coming into being. Or everything would have been frozen like in a photograph. What was harder to create… Time or the physical universe. I would say time. After all, time is the most important “function” in the entire universe.

[@cultist100]

Time exists so things can happen

[@maxpower252]

Not yet. Be patient.

[@infinitygame18]

Everything you know is right but there are many other dimensions of perception, where all tour pgysics and knowing are opposite or changed their laws, unless you explore with a broader spectrum of understanding, you cant reach the trueness of reality, start respecting every bit of different understanding to grow humanity, killing, hiding, fearing or ignoring is the shortest distance to live in ignorance forever, Dear intelectual of this beautiful time and space of Planet Earth 🙏ALL FULL🌓 YOU HALF 🌗 GOLDY

[@Nekoyarou7766]

This is good question, but don't ask it to mere human

[@samuelarthur887]

This was a non answer as far as recent knowledge of cosmogony is concerned; sounds also like the old ‘multiverse’ non explanation. The real questions are why inflation and “what breathes fire into the equations?” to quote Hawking.

[@jackneidinger9544]

I'm dissapointed in the universe. It's not as good as everybody said.

[@jlarsson1978]

You need to check out another universe.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

(3:16) *RLK: **_"How do you get the infinite possibly, an infinite amount of time?"_* ... Excellent question! And after a two-minute-long explanation from Aguirre, Kuhn is forced to ask the same question again. Even so, he _still_ doesn't get a satisfactory answer. This is because the mathematicians / physicists simply accept what's "written on paper" as opposed to considering the *logical ramifications* of what they are reading. *RULES:* Finite Origin + Finite Existence = Logical Finite Origin + Infinite Existence = Logical Infinite Origin + Finite Existence = Illogical Infinite Origin + Infinite Existence = Illogical If your theory posits any type of a "no-beginning scenario," then scrap it because you won't be able to answer any critical questions about how that would play out in real life (just like what happened in this video). Human consciousness cannot logically process a no-beginning scenario.

[@chachichochacorta8577]

Very good point. I've always asked, "if the universe is infinite and has always existed, then how did you get to Tuesday?" To answer that question, you need some mathematician/astrophysicist to confirm that we picked a point in history and just said "let's start here."

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

You are absolutely right. This "no beginning theory " is pure bonkers...

[@brothermine2292]

Theories that include an origin time have "logical" issues too.

[@simonhibbs887]

Again, you're just using logic to mean your own intuition. Ever since Aristotle logic has had a specific meaning, that being a formal system of axioms and rules of inference. In order to disprove an infinite sequence you need to postulate a terminating condition that is logically consistent. It has been shown that for many infinite series such as numbers it can be shown that terminating conditions lead to logical contradictions.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

​@@simonhibbs887 *"Again, you're just using logic to mean your own intuition."* ... Logic and Intuition are fundamentally the same except that the former is based on all information being available and the latter is based on a lack of information. The former yields a 100% conclusion whereas the latter can only offer a conclusion that's less than 100%. Examples: *(1)* 1 + 1 = 2 is based on logic, and all information is available to reach a 100% conclusion. *(2)* I will probably die within the next 50 years is "intuition" based on how long everyone else has lived. However, this is not a 100% accurate conclusion because we might develop something that extends a human lifetime well beyond its historical limits. My argument against the "infinite origin" claim is NOT based on intuition because mathematics clearly shows us otherwise. Mathematics shows us that positive and negative numbers both require a starting point (0) and this starting point divides the two spectrums of numbers. *"In order to disprove an infinite sequence you need to postulate a terminating condition that is logically consistent."* ... Zero (0) is the terminating condition. It terminates both positive and negative sequences (or "spectrums") of numbers. Both spectrums are free to "evolve" into greater or lesser numbers, but both are also required to start at zero. *"It has been shown that for many infinite series such as numbers it can be shown that terminating conditions lead to logical contradictions."* ... Moving backward by 1 through an infinite sequence of positive numbers will eventually lead you to what number? Spoiler: it's that renegade number that is neither positive nor negative. *Question for you* (please don't dodge!): Let's say there is an element called "Fauxium" (Fx) that has always existed (infinite origin). A characteristic of Fx is that it doubles in size every *billion* years. Starting at the point where this Fx element was 1" in diameter .... _what is its diameter today?_

[@F1ct10n17]

All i can see is the power of the bomb, it was invented to make a huge different on the battlefield. I don't even understand life at all. Live,die,live,die and live again. Birth,death,birth, death and another life again. Why not another path? Eternal life, removing all sins and guilt? Why do we fallow the mindless nature if there were so many path much better? Why do we need to lie? Why do we need to reasons if there's no other path? Why everything and everyone is different? Seeing all the angles to make BigBang right is sure it did happened to satisfied your mind.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

full extent of universe not grasped by human beings, use science to investigate physical reality from locality beyond further and further?

[@ronaldogilley4274]

I don’t think it began…I’ve yet to hear a compelling theory otherwise, just a bunch of verbal cardio

[@blusheep2]

Verbal cardio? What does that mean... words you don't understand? I'd suggest that if you can't understand the discussion you should study it more deeply rather then saying its uncompelling but that is just my opinion. The simple answer is that all our studies point to time in the finite past in which all of space, time, and matter is curved to the infinite. Which in simpler terms, means it didn't exist.

[@ronaldogilley4274]

@@blusheep2 thank you for your feedback

[@angel4everable]

"Asking what happened before the Big Bang is like asking how tall a year is". Stephen Hawking. "Beginning", "Time", and "Before" are all human constructs, of finite creatures trying to understand an infinite universe. Kant, whom Anthony Aguirre snidely dismisses, tackled this paradox in CRITIQUE OF PURE REASON. The universe is an antinomy, both finite and infinite in time and space. Look for a beginning and you will find one, but that says more about you the observer than what you are observing. Einstein came to the same conclusion 150 years later with the Theory of Relativity.

[@tybeedave]

forgive me, but can u imagine an entity of the greater cosmos from which our universe was spawned? i can if u need help :)

[@angel4everable]

@@tybeedave This universe might have sprung from another universe ad finitum, but I prefer to think, as Bertrand Russell once said, "The universe is all there is".

[@chaunceygardner2342]

No always was and always will be

[@kylebushnell2601]

Existence is a paradox, the greatest of all paradoxes. Anyone who says that they have an answer for the beginning of it all is not being genuine and honest.

[@kylebushnell2601]

Also inflation is not honest or genuine. Guth and others are jokers to act like inflation has genuine scientific validity let alone any evidence. That’s why we have spent Billions of dollars trying to prove inflation and a group of scientists literally faked finding evidence for it. Go figure we’re still wasting billions of dollars looking for “inflation”. I wish Einstein were around to back me up on that one ;)

[@cliffordwebb137]

The concept that this makes sense is being inflated.

[@dennisbailey6067]

I give up,did it?

[@evaadam3635]

In the beginning is the "WORD" which does not mean man's vocal chords but means the vibration of spirits from a tiny portion of God's Spiritual World that had FUSED to form this Physical World... .. In other words, it is NOT explosion, infation, nor bigbang that formed the Universe but FUSION of spirits unreachable by human's limited physical senses..

[@onlyonetoserve9586]

Befour big bangers cam creater planit erth desine

[@Bassotronics]

I would like to believe that there are multi-universes because this planet is so messed up that I wish and hope that there are other planet “Earths” that are much better. Who knows, probably there are Earths that are worse.

[@OutHereOnTheFlats]

The planet really isnt that messed up. That is cynical human thought. The planet has been inhospitable before. It has experienced mass extinction events. It has been much hotter and much cooler. If anything the earth is almost perfect at the moment. So no its not "messed up". ( yet to your point it will be messed up again at some point but not today. )

[@tybeedave]

sorry, we exist in a multiverse called the motherverse where everything is unique. there is neither best or worst

[@Bassotronics]

@@OutHereOnTheFlats I mean “messed up” in terms of humanity and how much hatred and violence there is.

[@Srsbzns_5150]

We are in a black hole. Prove me wrong 🥸

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

We have observed many black holes.... There cannot be black inside a black hole. And hence we are not in a black hole.....

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

@@sujok-acupuncture9246 *"There cannot be black inside a black hole. And hence we are not in a black hole"* ... Well played!

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

​@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC oh ... I meant black hole...lol.. thanks

[@africandawahrevival]

Nah bro, we are black holes

[@simonhibbs887]

@@sujok-acupuncture9246 Nice. There's also the fact that in a black hole all spacelike dimensions become timelike, meaning that all motion can only be in one direction in each dimension, towards the centre of the black hole. Since we observe that our environment has spacelike dimensionality, we can't be in a black hole.

[@trull122]

are you in a blimp?

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

Yes and no. 😉

[@holgerjrgensen2166]

NO, the Universe didn 'begin', it was born from natural parents, our local universe is a Life-Unit, all Living Beings, is Life-Unit's.

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

Forget the scientist , even god cannot answer this question...

[@africandawahrevival]

Yeah, god might not answer, but God answers it simply, He created it all. 😎

[@Bassotronics]

@@africandawahrevival But who created God?

[@africandawahrevival]

@@Bassotronics God is the Creator, He is not created. God is necessary and creatures are contingent.

[@Bassotronics]

@@africandawahrevival But if God is the creator then who created the creator to create things?

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

​@africandawahreviva if God created such a big universe then why is he not showing up last 13 billon years.

[@halwarner3326]

One way or the other, You need a miracle. No one knows. Just studying how atoms came to be is past my understanding.

[@EdwardHinton-qs4ry]

No answers as usual

[@DouglasVoigt-tu3xb]

Blurry… no help for me. No closer to truth.

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Whatever we are, even the universe, and all that subsists and is constituent of within is consubstantial, ultimately. Our essence, mind, state, nature, spirit, awareness, realization... we didn't come into the universe, we come out of it. They do say even Brahma has a duration - very long however. Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva - birth, life, death, different modes of the one Brahman. You'd have to study some hardcore metaphysics if such questions have one yearning. It's pretty incredible. Difficult to really grasp it. Is antithesis to the mind and the dual structure of. Something has always been, unbegotten, and by juxtaposition like in small to vast we try to penetrate but even such distinctions are not, in principle, even applicable to the ONE because it is transcendent - the one does not participate of phenomena i.e, temporal and spatial i.e, mass and magnitude. How could something have just always been. It's not, I believe, about getting ones mind to grasp it, but letting the mind go and it's limited condition and merging with it. You can't make this logical.

[@jago76]

It's ther First Cause issue in philosophy. The answer: We do not know.

[@ventusfenneca1424]

its what Plato would recognize as the first mover / the unmoved mover, which is what classical theists recognize as God

[@Micheal-Knight-]

Sounds like Bidens inflation.....

[@Richest_Person_in_the_World]

You Russians will lose the election again.

[@guidance_seeker_55]

This is all conjucture. The truth is that Allah created the universe from nothing and since then Allah expands it as he said in the Quran "With power did We construct the heaven. Verily, We are Able to extend the vastness of space thereof". And in another place Allah said: " And (remember) the Day when We shall roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books, as We began the first creation, We shall repeat it, (it is) a promise binding upon Us. Truly, We shall do it".

[@tututoo6973]

Good for you mate

[@kos-mos1127]

Why bring in Allah when it adds nothing?