Anthony Sutera on low power wireless everywhere

We like to imagine the creators of the future as geniuses who build their world changing products out of first principles. They know what it is and why it works before they begin building. But sometimes it doesn't happen that way. Sometimes great ideas are the product of discovery and tinkering. Anthony tells us about an accidental discovery that may change the world of wireless communications.
Anthony Sutera is an entrepreneur in communications, specializing in radio, satellite and wireless communications systems. He is currently the CEO of Chamtech Enterprises, a company holding several patents on its nano, spray-on antenna technology.

[@desenxuxator]

It's like to make a mirror to reflect the rf signals.

[@JohnRutherford205]

I'd like to know A) the environmental effects, B) if this will be available to the public and C) what does the paint do to humans? I think it could do a bit of good especially where low-income schools/areas are concerned. There are miles of copper wire where my mother works, just so they can have internet in every classroom. Imagine if all they did was paint a strip on the wall? It could also be done in areas where there is no internet access like out in the country. Think of the possibilities!

[@777arcdddd]

To those who assume this is just a marketing guy I'm pretty sure Chamtech is a tiny company comprising of a few people at most. I say this because 18 months ago Chamtech was a company run out of Sutera's house, offering combat training lessons "to train soldiers and law enforcement personnel in ATV use, electronic surveillance and hand-to-hand combat". Except two different counties rejected the permit request for training grounds so it dident happen. Just google "chamtech military training".

[@BillyHayes548]

we used similar technologies in Operation Igloo White in Vietnam and Laos but on VHF frequencies and trimming long leaf plants and tree leaves back for low SWR, then adding sensors and transmitters to same plants

[@vMufasa]

@spsheridan you have to have antennas in between as well... i think he meant that as a possibility in the future

[@permaveg]

I'm with you there on all you say. But i do think its a deliberate effort to de link us.

[@mrdotbryce]

the spray can is a bad idea because we know close to nothing about toxicity of nanoparticles. also made me think about the sealife somehow i am pessimistic about this technology reducing the noise pollution. other than that i guess it is revolutionary thinking :) how did it escape strict military use ?

[@akauppi2]

@kz1o Glad to see your comment. I started looking up stuff myself, and the "20dBm better" is simply wrong (it's an absolute measure, not relative, one cannot state like he does). Makes me think the whole video is a bogus thingy - is it?

[@spsheridan]

@vMufasa As an electrical engineer with antenna design experience, I can attest that the possibility of successfully transmitting from the depths of the ocean to outer space at 50 MHz using any antenna design is nearly zero. Due to very high attenuation, you would have to space the antennas just a few meters apart from the ocean floor up to the surface to get any signal through, a prohibitively expensive and completely impractical endeavor. Better to have have a wire to the surface.

[@techstate2863]

imagine a world with no shams!

[@AtuOma]

is it real? o.O wonder how it works. that's just magical!

[@peteramon33]

No recovery process of this nanocapacitor material once released. One person spraying engineered metallic nanoparticles into the environment might be negligible, but when hundreds to potentially thousands or millions of people spraying nanomaterials onto trees and outdoor structures, then leaving it there....environmental nanotoxicity from this material, respectively, is only a matter of time.

[@Ayrshore]

@WISKEYSIERRA4ECHO You're being very, very kind to him there. And I'm understating the point!

[@brunoqmelo]

thats hugee

[@1BustedMyth]

@ivkos, yes but you will not like the taste of the shake!

[@permaveg]

I get the distinct impression if it disconnects us from nature and the natural earth energies then it's encouraged by big companies and goverments.

[@consciouscitizen6211]

Is there NO END to this technocratic madness and greed and wish to destroy ALL that is natural, pure, healthy and whole? In addition to concerns around tree and wildlife health, WHAT will become of our health and that of our children if we BREATHE in these nanoparticulates?

[@lonecrow66]

This is just simply "passive gain" and there are strict regulations in how much you can broadcast on certain frequencies. So it may be nice you can spray things but if the gain makes the device go over the EIRP then they are illegal. There are also health concerns for increasing the radiation of a wireless device beyond the EIRP.

[@spsheridan]

@Obja That is not correct. Visible light interacts much differently with water than RF. Light passes through clear salt water (by definition) fairly well but RF at 50 MHz is highly attenuated at a rate of ~80 dB per meter. So for each meter of travel, the signal is reduced by a factor of 100,000,000 independent of the antenna design. This is because at 50 MHz, salt water acts as a conductor and absorbs most of the RF energy.

[@richo61]

@omatu1 Good "rule of thumb". If it sounds too good to be true - it probably is.

[@Youtuber-ly6tx]

Do you think if you applied a vibration at a certain frequency the capacitors would arrange themselves in a more efficient order and increase the overall output?

[@MikaelMurstam]

Doesn't matter. It works.

[@icyhammer42]

Can anyone explain physics step by step behind that new invention?

[@supremedemency]

@RedRum425 Except his test results go against the basic laws of electromagnetics.

[@ivkos]

But will it blend?

[@PicaDelphon]

I know you HAM People / Furry / Pro's will love this New Stuff,, Paint on Antennas Yea got to love this..

[@777arcdddd]

I love how this "new technology" is getting posted on tons of major news sites; all of them saying how it's a major breakthrough that will change the world. Meanwhile the ham radio and antenna-related forums are laughing about how it's the biggest load of BS, and that the claims made in the video go against the most basic electromagnetics laws.

[@L1ke20N1njas]

@richman0829 I think he is just nervous with public speaking. It's still an amazing invention.

[@WISKEYSIERRA4ECHO]

As a experienced ham radio operator I have to say this has many many exaggerations in it.

[@knuth42]

Nice to see metamaterials starting to push out into practical applications. It would certainly be nice to see backing documentation for his claims.

[@fausto412]

that is very very interesting....does it work for wi-fi? send me a small sample please!

[@JoshuaFricke]

Don’t forget, “military”. The shear fact that it extends wireless connectivity to such a degree may make it hard for us consumers to get ahold of. Why? The military does not let civilians to have better any thing then they do. If a submarine vessel (russian) equip itself with consumer wireless tech, they would be able to detect our subs 20x further with our currently equipped extremely low frequency communication which where designed to be undetectable at range, especially underwater. All our wireless communications security is equipped to to protect itself against the old design. We (consumers) won’t have access until the military is beyond yesterday’s par.

[@spsheridan]

"... being able to transmit from the depths of the ocean to outer space, effortlessly transmitting between themselves" needs to be proved. With the antennas only being 20 ft deep, how do you know there are no surface effects that augment underwater transmission between the two antennas? 50 MHz is very highly attenuated by salt water regardless of the antenna you use. I'd like to see a demo with one antenna 1 nmi under the surface and the other in outer space to back up that claim.

[@blitzcraig7]

Awesome technology.

[@brink668]

This is excellent!

[@crazysamz]

This is simply amazing. Antennas, electric cars, jeez this product can make a lot of things way better! I hope it's successful!

[@msheart2]

Idiot you are inhaling these things, this is a crime!

[@Dicertification]

Wow.... amazing.... completely amazing. Can't wait to see a can of this on the shelf in the hardware store :)

[@spsheridan]

@wealthychef ... and your point?

[@m1bxf]

I remember trying to sell SWR spray on the CB years ago, is this the stuff of legends? I'm a ham and I know all about antennas, efficiency, matching and how different materials work as antennas at different frequencies, but come on, the iPhone example where they claim 20dBm increase over the standard antenna! dBm is actually a measurement of power rather than gain/loss so maybe he means 20dB better, but if so that requires more than 64 of the same antennas in an array! And paint can do this?!?!

[@NickRoman]

Yeah Steve, I think this is the newest generation encabulator.

[@VK3IK]

If you spray an antenna onto a tree or wall how do you know when it is resonant?

[@Kasmirian]

Nothing is impossible? - true. "Try jumping to the moon" also possible. It is in the realm of physics. Remember physics "laws" are only theories that generally well accepted as the pattern to predict results. These laws are only our perceptions of the universe that up for review, change, and to be disproved at any time. Keep that in mind when you scoff at "Nothing is impossible".

[@bsccollins]

The problem is that antennas are poorly understood by so many people, and the subject is regarded as a black art. This lets people get away with claiming almost anything.

[@olternaut]

@clearnshaw Probably not a good guess. The world's history is filled with great inventors and inventions not seeing the light of day.

[@Ayrshore]

Does it come with Swar grease?

[@k9wwt]

Where can I buy it? I will test it on my G5RV and 160 Meter inverted vee and see if it works. Just might be able to get that DXCC on 160 after-all. Heck - I will even spray it on my Eagle One in the summer for portable operations. I have had some experience with spray on copper for RF shielding at my work location and that worked great so this is not hard to imagine. As for the presentation - so what if he is not a George Cloney, he is probably smarter and making more cash than all of us!

[@olternaut]

@kinglauda If not Tesla, it will be a company like Tesla who gets it right.

[@777arcdddd]

@wealthychef It would not let me post the link. Just google "chamtech military training" and it should be the first link

[@permaveg]

Couldn't have put it better, when will they stop?

[@dalekify]

This is old tech! Left handed screwdrivers have been around for years. But you try and buy one. Have a little faith! And pass me a giggling pin for my buff buff:-)

[@richman0829]

I find it hard to understand that someone interested in new technology would be so put off by an inept presentation that they could not see the value in what was being presented.

[@AndersonStuartCarredias]

Wonderfully put..Amazing job..

[@5urg3x]

Next slide please...rofl.

[@777arcdddd]

Any RF engineer will tell you that this is completely false, for many reasons. I'm just confused as to how Google let it through...

[@olternaut]

@richman0829 I didn't find the presentation inept at all. Not everyone can present like Steve Jobs for goodness sake.

[@Lazerscythe]

Why not Zoidberg?

[@aerinzero]

they have to hand make each nano capacitor. by hand. each. with tiny, tiny hands.

[@90mdv]

care to share links?

[@RhinoSea]

@TheWizarck wat

[@d3adp001]

so if you can paint on rf transmission, when will you transmit visable light. Thats next...

[@Nujabez]

@PIXscotland What fools these mortals be

[@MauriatOttolink]

Having been an active ham since 1958 and a commercial 2 way radio technician, I have yet to experience ANY mobile antenna getting hot. I've used power levels well beyond those used by police or taxi mobiles, not Kw but certainly 250 watts SSB. During damp days, high Q LF antennas will ionise at the the tip and handling it while on air could produce nasty RF burns but no noticeable raise in temperature capable of being felt by touch let alone burns. Where does he get that idea? Suspicions were further aroused by his use of the word "computated" (eh?) and the fact that there was not a single spray can on display... Pretty dodgy?

[@walterbunn280]

There were several bits that raised eyebrows. If he's working for the military, he's probably not allowed to give exact information about how his painted antenna works, and may be required to include some amount of disinformation about it. With regards to the capacitor's being more efficient... that's clearly bullshit since capacitors act as a resistor to AC power, and small values give higher resistance. If we take that to be true, what he's talking about are high impedance antennas. The rest is just flourish for the camera.

[@davenn52]

The mind boggles with his claims ... heck the guy cant even look you in the eye as he talks !!

[@Lexdude0]

You do realise light is electromagnetic, right? If you're not bothered by staring at the LCD screen you're typing from, you can live with a few antennas here and there.

[@Fourbrick]

So he transmitted to a plane flying at over 73,000 feet? Really?

[@ArturoRamirez6]

the world needs more Steve Jobs...

[@yaca2512]

The day i own a phone that supplies electricity to itself via wireless! is the day i eat my shoe! i guess its just around the corner.. plenty of time break one in than..

[@akauppi2]

@realmsofinquiry There's no free lunch. Even if the thing was real - which I doubt - "harvesting" radio energy would mean eating up from the transmitter's energy budget. This is one more case that makes me really not have faith in the presentation. He states that cell powers could power themselves (from the signals they are supposed to be transmitting). Or maybe they'll power from the competitor's bandwidth, thus making double duty? :P

[@Lexdude0]

Unless you're talking about the "Rebecca Black"s of pop songs, I don't get you.

[@jaysedai]

Amazing tech! Actually it's world changing tech. Who cares how slick the presentation is or isn't it's the content that matters.

[@jsgoller1]

3:13 They "computated" the results? dafuq.jpg

[@xymaryai8283]

lmao, i thought the *.jpg was a 2018 meme, seems i was wrong, and seems this video was completely wack, or the guy was disappeared and the formula hasn't been replicated. or maybe it was an out of season April fools joke, i mean I know some RF devices can operate passively, but those energy generation claims seem like immense bullshit.

[@mrdotbryce]

@forozco123 well, he s a genius for coming up with this technology so wether its stress or autism i still think he has his priorities straight

[@JoeVSvolcano]

This tech would turn Homes into antennas. Every Ham operator would LOVE to get there hands on a can of spray on antenna, Ill tell you that. Probably a hoax though, there website has no products for sale, + you would think that a demonstrator would bring a can for demonstration. So I call Bull SH17

[@year2044]

NOT bull, its real. This 'nano spray communication' was used in the DESERT WARS (Iraqi/other)---this could, I emphasis 'could/might' be linked to 'Earth Dimming' and 'ChemTrails'-with all the spying revelation its not hard to believe that this tech is already being used. Tell you a weird kinda story-ATT phone guy came to my home, my ATT home internet wasn't working & living in the middle of 'no where' my cellphone couldn't get a connection-the ATT guy showed me with his devices that he was getting 4g but could only get that with his 'special device' couldnt get anything with my new ATT cellphone though..???

[@felixthefoxMEXICO]

***** CHEMTRAILS!

[@MrRobtwothirds]

It used to be a "good idea" to put radium in toothpaste. It's a revolting short sighted idea.

[@edwardpowellmusic]

turning trees into antennas....? poor trees! :-(

[@msheart2]

We're inhale these nano particles, they're in some foods, sprayed into our atmosphere under the guise of geoengineering, they're on the fruits and veggies, they are turning everything into antennas, this is a crime against nature and humanity.

[@DarcyWhyte]

I doubt there is a product that works as claimed. There is no convincing evidence in the presentation. Nothing at their Web site either.

[@kz1o]

He made several mistakes in his presentation which tell me he is not the technical guy, but probably the marketing guy. For example, you cannot have a "gain of 20 dBm". He also implied that when you double the power, you double the range. This tells me he has not done a path loss calculation, which every RF engineer I know, has. And radio signals do not have a "happy spot" on an antenna. It looks like they may have invented spray-on copper tape, which is better than a rubber duck.

[@777arcdddd]

Also, they DON'T have patents for nano spray-on antenna technology. They have five antenna design patterns, all filed on the same day, and none include any radiation patterns. This thing is a con imo.

[@msheart2]

"We like to imagine the creators of the future as geniuses" As opposed to the psychopathic controlling criminals they really are.

[@SkyCharter]

When asked, repeatedly, for copies of their test results, the answer is always something like "Our engineers will be happy to help you with your problems." They want cash first before they will talk. After hearing this fellow's obvious misuse of radio jargon, disbelief of everything said sets in and radio industry folks just move on and leave Chemtech to their entranced followers.

[@ilusjon]

This would revolutionize wireless devices. GUYS GUYS! Try to transmit electricity... With this! Like having a hub on the ground in your house and all the other devices that enter the field to charge their batteries...

[@chatch15117]

lol this is ridiculous. this is not how antennas work. the reason cell towers are up tall is so they have a good line of sight to all the devices. i bet standard dipole antennas with their nulls facing eachother perform better

[@jazzpecq]

Why give this charlatan such a dose of Solve-for-X publicity?

[@andreas1132]

this aprils fool joke is waaaay to early

[@playaspec]

@benjaminandfriends Hate to say it, but quite often the truth is *negative*. Being both an electronics engineer and an FCC licensed radio operator, this smells like a bunch of buzzwords bandied about in order to BS the ignorant into 'investing' into pure vapor.

[@olternaut]

Seriously though, why isn't this stuff page 1 news?? Why isn't this guy a trillionaire by now?

[@Boodieman72]

Is it real or is it BS, only time will tell

[@utoober33]

This is complete bunk. I don't want to even get into explaining why. You should listen to their CTO's presentation (at ARRL I believe) which is comical.

[@ramalama246]

This guy is shifty!

[@smartaleckIO]

So basically this will decrease the power consumption and increase the range of EVERYTHING with an antenna. Looks like this guy is the next gazillionaire.

[@Ayrshore]

@lukayoutub No. Because it's 100% pure BS.

[@playaspec]

Nobody loves Raymond when he's trying to SCAM you!

[@e100project]

I was grabbed by the headline with a giant WTF, until I saw the video...I expected to see a demonstration with source/detection equipment with third party calibration stickers to add credibility, followed by some kind of explanation and a peek at the patent award (or application). Instead I wasted my time watching the dullest and most unconvincing presentation I've ever seen. The only comforting take-away is that by the time I wrote this there were 65,000 others that wasted their time too.

[@GuyClark-KS]

Maybe it's fractal? Naw, just BS, BIG BS ! I would LOVE to buy a can of this just to show how BAD an idea it is. Of course it's like vaporware. The developers will stir up the hipe then sell off for a tidy sum. I think they should sell now and leave the country. ABØDP

[@SeraiNephthys]

Yes sounds like a horrible idea, more pollution both emf and nano particulate, that's never going to be a 'good' thing. I do wish these people would stop for a minute and consider the impact these things will have on the environment before they start promoting them.

[@SkyCharter]

Good grief... when did this become NoobTube?

[@supremedemency]

I'm starting to think this guy is actually a con artist. A little over a year ago this same company (which was run out of Sutera's house) tried to offer combat training lessons "to train soldiers and law enforcement personnel in ATV use, electronic surveillance and hand-to-hand combat" but two different counties rejected the permit request. And as far as their "several patents on nano antenna technology", all the USPTO has listed are some design patents for antenna shapes (nothing special).

[@msakclioworld]

I don't know why but he reminds me of Nicolas Cage ! But I think this is the future of antennas :)

[@msheart2]

In fact thinking is the last thing any one of you who thinks this is just great, are doing.

[@riderxriderx4499]

great stuff, it just he is too boring. get a person that can talk n act fast like steve jobs and u will booming

[@sodequis]

My bet.. Total hoax... was anything in that video an example of something actually working?