Quiet Down your AIR COMPRESSOR with air silencers and a Magnaflow Muffler

Quiet Down your AIR COMPRESSOR with air silencers and a Magnaflow Muffler | AnthonyJ350

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@AerialLensVideo 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for this helpful video! Regardless of a batch of negative/unproductive comments "offered" below, you nailed this very well. The dB reduction from the first-step part is sufficient for my needs, all by itself (as YOU apparently know, dB's are logarithmic, so your noise reduction is a LOT). I just stopped with the first part filter (actually sold online for air compressors) and added a 8in open ended rubber hose to that little pipe (no clue why, but that helps too). Bottom line: GREAT SOLUTION! Appreciate it.

@AnthonyJ350 4 ай бұрын

Glad the video helped you! Maybe the rubber hose provides more noise cancellation as sound waves travel inside of it.

@agentx250 Жыл бұрын

The most cost effective way to kill the sound without worrying about thermals is to move the drive motor-head assembly off the tank. I did this by welding up a cradle for the assembly and a wall hanger, hung the cradle with isolation hangers and routed the output through a 3/4 copper condenser then down to the tank. All the high end noise is gone, there's no notable vibrations, and I don't have to worry about heat buildup because it's open air. This is with a Campbell Hausfeld TQ3010. I've been very pleased with the results and it looks amazing to boot if you like that old industrial aesthetic. I haven't touched the intake side yet but the idea is to change the two small canister style housings for a washable K&N car type. I'm just not sure if I want to fab something myself or by a molded plastic housing and tie in. Though, that's more for easy maintenance than anything else at this point.

@AnthonyJ350 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@agentx250 Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 My pleasure.

@jovanjubert4046 Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 can you send me a picture?

@AnthonyJ350 Жыл бұрын

@@jovanjubert4046 Of?

@Dr_Xyzt 2 жыл бұрын

Some compressors just make a ton of noise. I got a tour of a diesel body shop and they had a cool compressor setup. Their compressor was an old Ingersoll unit with a big piston. It made a steady thump-thump-thump-thump sound that was a lot like a 4-stroke dirt bike but slower. The 200 gallon tank was wrapped with tires and ratchet straps. Naturally, it being a diesel shop, they had a big chrome stack welded to it and a fan from a semi for cooling. That was quite possibly the coolest shop I've ever been to. It had this derelict look to it. Galvanized steel buildings. One had a really high ceiling with a bunch of engines and 55 gallon drums. The other side was the workshop. 4 bays. Disassembly, cleaning, fabrication, sandblast/paint booth.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the story!

@srussert28 Жыл бұрын

I am coming in way late but A natural loop of the rubber tubing will get rid of a lot of the high freq noise. Also at the bottom of the muffler you can add a common 4cyl airbox with flat filter. Pretty much any airbox from any car will do but the 90's Toyota, Prius are super common and they have a clip style box that you can change without tools. The filters are the flat rectangle style and they are cheap, (Probably way cheaper than the K&N and have way more airflow) I know Toyota mount to a flat surface so an easy wall mount can be done. You can do this backwards and find out what is a common car cheap K&N filter and find out what car it goes to. My Uncle had one of those huge Tornado dual snorkel 455 air filters for his Compressor. He would just unscrew the wingnut and blow the filter out every so often. The Air box style does have internal dampers to help with noise.

@AnthonyJ350 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@mannys9130 2 жыл бұрын

Build a small cabinet or enclosure that's very simple. Just 2x4s, MDF on the inside, 1/2" plywood on the outside, and use rubber washers to standoff the MDF boards from the 2x4s and the screws attaching them. When you fit it all together, caulk the seams with something like Big Stretch caulking. If you want to go a step further, fill the dead space with batting. Further? Put anechoic foam wedge tiles on the MDF facing inward. Even FURTHER? Put a sheet of mass loaded vinyl over the MDF on the inside and put the foam tiles on top of that. For cooling and air intake, build a port on the side facing away from the shop and make it a baffle stack which forces the sound to hit several 90° turns. Put a fan in one of those baffle ports at the bottom and put another port on the top. Hot air will rise up and out. Line the walls of the baffle ports with anechoic wedge foam tiles too, but you can just make them out of the plywood. If you go all the way to the mass loaded vinyl and tiles level of design, that thing should not be any louder externally than a quiet conversation from a few feet away.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

But I would lose space on my mezzanine.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Just curious, how much do you think that solution costs?

@mannys9130 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 You would lose space, yeah. :( It's a compromise space, or noise. You could put the intake and exhaust baffle ports on top instead, having them be skinny with the exhaust a bit taller than the intake with fan. I personally would just do the MDF inside, any kind of stud in the middle, with 1/2" plywood or OSB outside. Alternatively, you could do 5/8" drywall on the inside and 1/2" plywood or OSB on the outside. The inner board/sheet needs to be dense, and something different than the outer board. The rubber insulating standoffs that are for the inner board could also be put on the outer boards to give more attenuation or you could just skip that and just attach the inner and outer boards to the studs in the center with a flexible adhesive that's like a Shore 20 or Shore 30 squishy. The air gap can be modest, like an inch or 2. Doesn't have to be huge. The point is to make the sound trans several media with vastly different densities. It doesn't like that. So super dense inner board, changing to an air gap, changing to lower density outer plywood is good. If you wrap the tank with dense sound deadening like Dynamat or that cheaper knockoff (I'd use that since it's indoors) then you'd have dense to air to dense to air to medium density and then out into the shop. I'd do this... Knockoff dynamat on the tank, drywall boards on the inside, either soft adhesive or cheap rubber washers and drywall screws attaching it, scrap salvaged pallets for free to make the middle studs, 1/2" plywood or OSB whatever is cheaper on the outside, holding the sides all together with metal plumbers strap, caulking the joints with whatever cheap squishy adhesive I used for the boards or some cheap stretchy silicone, and then I'd make the baffle stacks out of the pallets too and I'd put them both on top making 2 baffles in each and I'd line it with cheap egg crate foam off Amazon. I'd use a fan from Goodwill that fit and I'd wire it in parallel with the compressor power so whenever you're in the shop with the compressor switched on the fan is running and when you leave at night with it turned off the fan is off too. Easy. I'd make the gap 1 inch thick between boards. Shouldn't lose too much space that way. You could laminate 2 pallet slats together back to back with adhesive and use those for studs. Altogether, maybe $200 using drywall and OSB? 🤔 Maybe $300? It would be extremely quiet. This general concept is mostly used in "generator noise boxes" but many people use it for shop compressors too. Doing this with a scroll compressor, you won't even hear it. I think the compressor there is isolated off the floor with thick rubber feet, right? It looks like it. If not, do that for sure or the floor will transmit the sound a lot.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

@@mannys9130 That's impressive using all that material and only spending $300.

@stealthg35infiniti94 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 That's my idea also. Real estate lost up there is minimal. I do like all the sound meter testing. It comes the same volume over the phone video. The Hush Cabinet idea will be the most effective.

@theautodidacticman_ 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had that same compressor and motor for about 6 years now and it runs like a champ. It’s the only air compressor that’s never needed draining either. I check the drain valve once a year and there’s never any water inside but she’s noisy haha the reason I’m here. It’s probably the loudest compressor I’ve ever owned too.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely a super loud compressor. That's why I had to add the air silencers. I do have to empty mine once a month though. More moisture in the atmosphere in my area?

@dawavehawaii Жыл бұрын

Nice setup. I did something similar with a moped boxed plastic intake and routed it through wall so intake was outside

@AnthonyJ350 Жыл бұрын

Nice! Thank you for sharing.

@jjsteen99 2 жыл бұрын

You're on the right track! Next step would be an enclosure. Castair has an option if your interested try them out.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I plan to expand our mezzanine. I'll have an e closure made to house the compressor and heating system. Will add vents to allow air flow.

@JuhoJohansson-bz3jb 2 ай бұрын

Very cool looking setup... Must Admit that I would have never guessed that silencing the intake could have that much of an effect. I have much smaller compressor myself, and so far I have made an anti-vibration tray for it, under my boiler room sink. I am considering making an enclosure for it. After seeing this, I might add intake silencer to the list. All in all. I am very impressed.

@AnthonyJ350 2 ай бұрын

An enclosure with insulation is best. But doing everything adds up. Also factor air flow. Last shop I worked at enclosed the compressor under the staircase. Worked for most situations. But when we used DA sanders it would overheat and we would ope n the door and have to run a fan on it to keep it cool. I also run Royal Purple air compressor oil, that made it a bit more quiet.

@JuhoJohansson-bz3jb 2 ай бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 Sure, unless if really just using for short bursts, you do need ventilation for the enclosure... Wich does easily add quite a bit of complexity and cost, as a rather tiny hole can nearly defeat the whole purpose of an enclosure... I mean not entirely but compared to fully enclosed and vented without any silencers or baffles. I actually happen to have a technical manual from the 70's that has a section about sound insulation for electrical machines. I think it had some formula one can use to calculate naturally vented ducts for such enclosures.

@jakeboness8754 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and answered my question on how to quite mine down. After listening to mine today cycle on and off I said there’s got to be something. Nice build

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Glad the video helped!

@jakeboness8754 2 жыл бұрын

I just installed the first step of this, the aftermarket filter and my god it made a world of difference already!

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

@@jakeboness8754 Glad to hear the air silencer helped :)

@donegone6314 4 ай бұрын

With the intake being cut from 2"x6" down to such a tiny hole I wonder what the fill or top off times are stretched out to..... I would test that cause if your choking it down (and I think with this set up you are) you making the pump and motor work harder and that will shorten the life of all of it.

@AnthonyJ350 4 ай бұрын

Message me in 10 years and see how the setup is.

@GIZZMOTORSPORTS 2 жыл бұрын

I have the same compressor. I messed with a muffling it when I got it because it's so damn loud. I have it in a compressor room, that helps the most.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

I was so surprised how loud it was lol. It's much better now. I have to swap the oil to synthetic from KMS. Came shipped with break in. How do you like this compressor?

@GIZZMOTORSPORTS 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 it's loud but good, for sure the best value. Most of these brands are identical with different paint jobs. I have a couple water traps on it, I had a dedicated split out to my sandblast cabinet but I need to run another water trap to it. I drain it regularly, I wish there was a safe way to paint or coat the interior to try to get the most life out of it. That's the reason I bought this, I had a look inside my old swann and it's so rusty. Running shop lines along the wall was the next big shop air improvement, they often go on sale at Princess Auto.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

@@GIZZMOTORSPORTS I sprayed Fluid Film as much as I could in the tank to try to keep corrosion at pay. Drained the tank a couple times a week later to let it spit out all the excess residue. Better than nothing.

@GIZZMOTORSPORTS 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 i know you love the fluid film ;). it's either that or por or rustbullet. I'm sure there is already surface rust in there, maybe blow in some rust converter and call it a day. I wonder if anything will end up getting into the air supply, although my old compressor that was so rusty inside never had anything bad in the lines.

@kreynolds1123 Ай бұрын

I wonder, if you wrap insulation around the tank, will it dampen vibrations in the tank walls and will it absorb some of the sounds into the insulation fibers. Same with the muffler so that the outside isn't a smooth surface that can radiate sound. Large metal surfaces can often emit loud sounds when they are allowed to resonate. Maybe dampening can do much to reduce resonating. I wonder if cheap cardboard and two or three bungy cords would make a significant impact.

@AnthonyJ350 Ай бұрын

Might, but the tank might get super hot as well.

@ldnwholesale8552 2 жыл бұрын

Use rubber mounts for the pump and maybe the motor onto the bracket. Mine [tank on its side] has large rubber feet. Which deadens the sound a lot. And yes that is the way it was made!! That big upright tank loved in America drums big time. That hose restricts the air intake big time.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@stevebrown6175 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder what dynamat on the tank would do?

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

I did it in another video. I put squares on the back of this tank to reduce resonance. If you cover the hole thing I think it will retain heat instead of disapate it.

@ronyerke9250 2 ай бұрын

I've seen people use bicycle innertubes (valve cut off) tied around their compressor ranks to reduce/eliminate the ringing that often happens with big tanks.

@AnthonyJ350 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@mattfgln Жыл бұрын

Nice Rinnai unit you have there 🎉

@AnthonyJ350 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's for the radiant floor heating in the shop and helps supplement hot water in the house.

@JSLEnterprises 2 жыл бұрын

instead of a muffler, get a $30 "muffler" for a central vac system. works much better and much less restrictive than what you've done.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Do you really think the compressor flows that much CFM it can't pass through 2 of those silencers in series? I tried running with no filters, then I tried blocking the muffler and you don't hear any straining. It's a piston so isn't the airflow a pulse vs a stream?

@ldnwholesale8552 2 жыл бұрын

Muffler and effective air filter that does not severely restict the intakes

@basinaudiology1 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the part used to attach the silencer to the compressor?

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

I made it out of spare flat aluminum stock

@Justus_Patrick 2 жыл бұрын

What was the app that let you see the sound frequencies?

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Audio Control RTA

@Justus_Patrick 2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350 Dope tyty

@robertomartin8731 2 жыл бұрын

Medical compressors are worth the investment, they are powerful enough for simple DIY stuff.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

How much CFM can they push?

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Also how big are the tanks. And how much are they?

@MarkK01 2 жыл бұрын

Either way you do it a compressor noise is still annoying as hell.

@AnthonyJ350 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't really bother me. Been working in shops for 15 years. You get used to it.

@nharp83 6 ай бұрын

Sell that loud big box store turd and get something from the Quincy QR-25 lineup. Buy once, cry once.

@AnthonyJ350 6 ай бұрын

I'm ok thanks.

@Rob-z4t 3 ай бұрын

For a start your sound measurement is flawed. You should have a fixed point at 45 degrees from the flat plane of the sound approximately 1 metre away. (3.3 feet). That will give you a constant reading. Being so close gives an exaggerated level.

@AnthonyJ350 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. What if I told you it's a lot more tolerable in the shop?

@deanaf 4 ай бұрын

I put mine in the shed.

@AnthonyJ350 4 ай бұрын

Does it experience more condensation in the tank?

@deanaf 4 ай бұрын

@AnthonyJ350 Not that I have noticed. I have good air circulation, and I always drained my tank daily. I thought it was a thing? I was wrong but kept doing it. I'm going to use this idea and mount the muffler outside. I have an idea for cooling the air. I want to put an intercooler on it. Between the cooler and tank, I want to add 50 or more feet of the blue line before it enters the tank. My idea is to drop the line down my well. It's really cold, even in the summer. I have no clue if it's a bad or good idea.

@AnthonyJ350 4 ай бұрын

@@deanaf I agree, I want to put a cooler on mine as well in front of the pulley fan to reduce the temperature of all the hot air. Just no down time I can afford with jobs and videos going through lol.

@deanaf 4 ай бұрын

@@AnthonyJ350Time is always an issue.