How much it costs me to run my SaaS's in 2024

[@Benjamin-Chavez]

Love the content homie. Good blend of tech and business, which isn’t something you find a lot of. Keep em coming man!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Thank you bro!! Anything in particular you'd like me to talk about? :)

[@rembautimes8808]

Thanks it’s really insightful. Vercel lost a potential customer today - will steer clear of them unless they change their ways

[@allanmachado2011]

I watched the material UI playlist way back when. It's great to see someone who isn't optimizing for being a youtube tutorial guru. Nothing better than learning from someone who is actually applying it to solve real world issues. Very cool!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Wow throwback haha - really appreciate the kind words man. Yeah I kinda got burnt out making tutorials, and it didn't fit in with what I was doing on a daily basis anyways... so I figured I'd try this instead hahaha.

[@Redlabel0]

User paying a SaaS paying a PaaS

[@AnthonySistilli]

lool

[@rajshah2130]

thats how it works lol and PaaS will pay a IaaS if its platform is remote

[@fanaccount6600]

And the laas is paying the tax​@@rajshah2130

[@concaption]

Paying AWS.

[@raviss98]

Positive guy in tech & biz. Relevant content too. Keep such videos coming 😀

[@AnthonySistilli]

Appreciate you man!

[@martinomg]

I run a 160k daily visitors LMS (it has a lot of free stuff), about 5k registered users for just 46 bucks with a vultr vps + 10 ddos protection. I only need to worry with bandwidth usage, because I have a 5tb cap and after that I have to pay 0.01 per GB, which I've only been close to the limit once (97% at it's peak). Developer cost and producing content are by far the most expensive costs.

[@mrpetervideo]

agree

[@moamenhu]

Which privider you pau 0.01 per GB?

[@martinomg]

Vultr vps

[@ReflectingEnergy]

Stay away from AWS. …we’re using Vercel, an AWS wrapper. 😄

[@AnthonySistilli]

hahaha wrappers are useful for a reason

[@Vorenus875]

Heroku is an AWS wrapper too 😂 This video quickly became “the cost of not knowing AWS”

[@raunaquepatra3966]

​@@Vorenus875but the wrappers are cheaper when the site is not that big

[@dischannel888]

🤣

[@lnx648]

I'd like to know why staying away from AWS... Sure there are cheaper solutions than AWS, but I don't think it's horrible or that confusing/complicated.

[@SonAyoD]

You’re content is so valuable!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad it helps!!

[@Fatih4811]

Thank you for your transparency. Even though it's my first time seeing your channel and website, I've learnt a lot from this video =)

[@market-mastery-pro]

nice video man, enjoying this content

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad it's useful!

[@brandonmansfield6570]

That's a lot of vendors to depend on. I run 3 sites and my total is less than $30. Can be really rough to depend on metered services. Billing spikes are rough, especially when you are pre-revenue. Thanks for sharing the Vercel experience.

[@AnthonySistilli]

Great insights man thank you!! 3 sites for $30 is really awesome

[@dyrone7071]

what's your monthly income

[@lebronjaimeslannister]

that part on vercel hits hard damn

[@AnthonySistilli]

Haha, Vercel is great until it isn't

[@rickr937]

how are you scraping instagram tho? can you make an in depth video on how you run continuous scraping and how you host it?

[@CodingPhase]

Great content ❤ new subscriber

[@AnthonySistilli]

Welcome!!

[@spookimiiki5891]

i've been thinking about starting a startup, this was really eyeopening both in terms of expected cost but also what it takes (or what is good to have) stack wise! liked and subbed!!

[@mario_luis_dev]

this content is pure gold. Great work Anthony 👏

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad it's valuable to you man!! I'll keep it up :)

[@joshthe10xengineer]

Hey man! I love your startup content. Thanks!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Thank you!!

[@we-shall]

so, to run a SAAS we need loads of SAASs.

[@AnthonySistilli]

the self fulfilling prophecy

[@aurelianspodarec2629]

You don't. Back in the days you would do these things on your own. A SaaS is there to make your life faster, easier etc... would you rather pay 50$ a month or spend $10k doing it yourslef with medicore solutions?

[@oyeaurashu]

Yeah that's the point, if you know how to make these saas software as per your requirement it's can get even cheaper and more reliable, scalable.@@aurelianspodarec2629

[@hectorharris4051]

Great vids, and the insta reels are top tier

[@jumpmanjxhnsxn7608]

dude you're so fucking brilliant, you saas ideas are VERY good! I just got so many ideas from this!

[@AceCPAsBookkeeping]

How much it costs me to run my SaaS's in 2024 TLDR: Running a tech startup can be costly, but there are alternative, more cost-effective solutions to popular services like AWS, and it's important to carefully consider and budget for expenses such as DDoS attacks and database growth. 00:00 📊 Running a tech startup can be costly, and the speaker breaks down the expenses for two startups, including an Esports startup. 00:37 💰 Running a SaaS in 2024 costs $250 a month for a Valerant database on AWS, but it's recommended to use individual solutions like Heroku for better, cheaper, and easier options. 02:47 💰 Heroku costs $82/month, Versal Pro Plan is $20/person + $10 for analytics, but billing issues and unresponsiveness caused frustration for the SaaS. 05:34 📊 Using Better Stack for logging and Cloudflare has been beneficial for the speaker's SaaS, despite the costs. 07:28 📈 Use Cloudflare's Pro Plan for domain hosting at $20/month, and expect a monthly cost of $600 for running a SaaS startup with various features and cost-saving measures. 09:01 📊 The speaker discusses the low cost of running their SaaS in 2024, using Heroku for backend, Verso for payments, and Figma for UX design without additional expenses. 11:11 💰 Using cost-effective options like PostHog and Cloudflare is recommended for SaaS startups in 2024, with a higher tier database needed for large amounts of records and media objects. 12:54 📊 Consider using free UI frameworks and templates, invest in AI training, and use Stripe for payment collection to keep SaaS costs low, but be prepared for potential cost increases as your business grows.

[@Slada1]

At this scale, you could just buy a dedicated server in a datacenter

[@codecruz]

Been using DNSimple for years. $6/mo personal plan with free DDoS protection out of the box. No additional setting changes required.

[@sergiob3698]

Super interesting thank you

[@AnthonySistilli]

Appreciate you!!

[@raideez]

Thank you for this one, been thinking about these exactly same questions what you presented in video. Espectially cloudflare + vercel anti ddos etc.

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad it was helpful!

[@davidmenache]

An enlightening and fresh perspective. Thanks!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad it was helpful!

[@HHJoshHH]

Do you still feel the same about Cloud Flare in light of new events?

[@dermuschelschluerfer]

Hmmm idk about the general "Stay clear of AWS". Yes it is very quick and easy to accidentally spend tons of money, but with the right things you can manage to not spend much. Vercel is also just reselling AWS stuff so thats where you pay a bunch of premium too. Serverless scaling is a pain once you reach the point where instances of containers would be cheaper than serverless calls. I wouldnt recommend any completely new engineer to do anything on AWS. I remember the first times i had to do stuff and i was close to causing problems every time. Now after 3-4 years im pretty comfortable with using aws. It requires training and attention when you do stuff and plan architectures.

[@yellowboat8773]

Nice to see someone who actually does this for real

[@learner8084]

Great video. Thanks very much.

[@shamoilkhan888]

Vercel and Cloudflare not looking good today.

[@Me29446]

Thanks for sharing your startups' finances like this! I noticed there are only tech stack costs on here; I find that a lot of my costs end up going towards marketing (although maybe that is just a signal that I am doing something wrong). Would you consider making a video on this subject?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Ah personally we had a $0 marketing policy! If the product was good it would spread through word of mouth usually

[@Randominsaan-n4s]

could you also please share the employee cost with a breakdown for the number of employees you have working for each startup, like x engineers, y designers and z growth marketers, etc

[@AnthonySistilli]

Great question!! I will cover this for sure!

[@Randominsaan-n4s]

@@AnthonySistilli awesome, looking forward to it

[@deejaydev]

Very helpful video bro, thanks so much

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad it helped man!

[@ifindev]

Great video and transparancy! Thanks for sharing this!!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Appreciate you!

[@elisimic4371]

Great video man! Btw how are you getting your Instagram data via API or scraping?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Fully API!

[@elisimic4371]

@@AnthonySistilli Thanks a lot for the response! I am working with the Basic Display API although it is quite restrictive, I'm assuming you are using the Graph API?

[@andriypashynnyk4278]

very informative video, thanks!

[@AnthonySistilli]

glad it helped!!

[@jitxhere]

Awesome video man.

[@AnthonySistilli]

Thank you!

[@olivierginiaux7466]

I know there is some complexity behind your SAAS but a single server (eg 48 CPU cores) can easily handle 100x times your monthly traffic (you said 500k page views). With the remaining computing power you could probably handle the background computations as well and get it all running for much cheaper overall. I understand the convenience of using all these services and abstractions but beware it easily backfires as you spend time configuring and troubleshooting these instead

[@sheepgaming595]

wait is that the backend for vlr? I had no idea you made that

[@stanleyjekwu6810]

Great video❤

[@Mashwishi]

ha, i remember lots of billing issues with vercel

[@ptlogger]

I assume you initial app was working like AWS based using it's features, but did you try to compare those costs with other cloud hosting, like GCP, Azure (for example)? I know you say, when the AWS costs were getting high, you moved to parts of this features to separate services (heroku, betterstack,...) but did you evaluate the possibility to move to a different hosting as a bundle?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Nope! I think the silod applications like heroku, render, supabase, etc actually add so much QoL that I'd never move back to a full AWS setting.

[@dischannel888]

"Don't use AWS use Vercel" "Vercel screwed us over but AWS hasn't" The hell did I just watch

[@dragbrid2357]

Vercel is just reselling aws anyway

[@mrpetervideo]

vercel is using aws?

[@dragbrid2357]

@@mrpetervideo yeah vercel just resells aws but makes them easier to use that's it

[@MetalPotionEhUmCu]

What happened to that Magik influencer startup? I tried to go on the website and it's just an error. Why did you give up on it?

[@azadali7114]

You mentioned you have about 4 year's worth of data on all matches on your first SaaS, can you disclose how much TB that is approximately in your AWS db? I'm currently on AWS S3 for the storage of sound recordings, im curious how that would scale approximately

[@st.toussaint4632]

Great videos!!!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Glad you like them!

[@kobibr9362]

Yeah I am not touching vercel. I am scared of it. What is going on with aws? Have you tried SST to deploy on AWS? My next stack will be pretty simple NextJS, payload CMS, serverless functions for cron jobs and event bus all the way( they run for almost free) and SST will hold all of that together.

[@stickyblicky11]

AWS problems sounded like skill issues

[@KuroUsagi1010]

Where is Jared?

[@gambomaster]

What would you recommend for a SAAS developed in a Django framework? AWS or Heroku? Have heard from others also regarding AWS's hidden costs. 😷

[@AnthonySistilli]

heroku usually is fine, easy to get started, low cost - I think with SaaS's speed is key, and AWS has a large learning curve

[@shakapaker]

Betterstack also has uptime monitoring, or does Uptime Bot have more features?

[@chmiiller]

"DEPLOYMENT_NOT_FOUND" looks like Vercel is playing you again

[@jameswainwright5217]

Vercel should add alerts and implement protections around there limits. It seems unfair that you can get stinged so easily

[@AnthonySistilli]

100%

[@asfandyarkhan2787]

Liked becuase of Jared. Subscribed becuase of such great advice.

[@polyander]

Vercel discourages using Cloudflare while also hosting on Vercel - what's your opinion on that?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Personally as long as it all works fine, I'd take Cloudflare over vercel any day - as long as you disable proxying and let vercel do things like Image caching it should be okay!

[@arnavahuja310]

what are good alternatives for aws? you mentioned to stay away from it... so what should we use instead? also, any examples why specifically it was hard to work with? just asking because i'm trying to start something of my own :)

[@AnthonySistilli]

I have a video of my newest tech stack on my channel!

[@NetoPilsen]

hey! what do you recommend to replace AWS?

[@shantanuojha3578]

how are you managing latency between all these servers?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Hasn't been much of an issue! They only connect to eachother via our DB so it's the latency that you'd naturally have from frontend/backend supabase, which is quite low.

[@Dmytro-fr9nd]

I was never able to understand what kind of SaaS can one make that people would actually pay to use.

[@fritzfahrmann4730]

I'm here from tiktok waiting for jared

[@finn_the_dog]

This is a great video. I just found your channel, but this gold. I don't know if I missed it, but would you tell how many customers you serve with that costs or how many visits your apps get a month, mostly to estimate the cost per user (paid or not) or cost per number of hits a month?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Yeah! For the old one we get 500k+ pageviews/month and but our rev comes from our actual SaaS subs which takes up almost no usage tech wise

[@renato30]

what do you use with upstash that you managed to replace?

[@cirtey29]

Chad devs use VPS, mega chads have their own physical servers

[@ComfyCosi]

why not consolidate the uptime robot with the betterstack's uptime checker?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Yeah! Actually didn't know betterstack had uptime stuff until recently, just swapped onto them for logs at first

[@shakapaker]

Why not hosting redis and db on heroku itself?

[@chiqui1234ok]

Hi! Why not a dedicated server with CD/CI + Cloudflare? It's not better and cheaper? (When you already configure it)

[@danielmarco7863]

Nice video!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Thanks for the visit!

[@inferious777]

Vercel is great if youre publishing projects with virtually no users but once you get over even like 100 concurrent active users its very easy to ecceed their limits. AWS imo just targets growing companies with tons of capital. I'd recommend just renting vps/vdses, they have their own risks of course like reliability, etc. but the prices are way more affordable. Plus learning devops to me is fun + a free skill for your resume.

[@MikeNugget]

But why Heroku? It's 1GB RAM instance for $50 is insane.

[@repotranstech]

Pythonanywhere 3gb ram for 5$.

[@petergiurgiubeta]

Subscribed!

[@andreapanzeri5252]

have you ever tried railway? I think it can be pretty useful

[@AnthonySistilli]

I actually have not! What;s it about?

[@DerekDoes...]

Why move away from betterstack if you're so happy with them?

[@SimonF-o7m]

Supabase is based on AWS :)

[@w3mw]

Great video, thanks for answering my question in previous video about making this kind of topic! Do you have a video about cloudflare? How to install it correctly, what is does and so on? I have heard a lot about cloudflare, but never understood it correctly. Thanks!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Not yet! Might make something on it in the future though, great idea!

[@pengurrito7136]

Why do you not use betterstack for uptime monitoring?

[@AnthonySistilli]

i didn’t know they offered it!

[@wassimregaieg5814]

can you develop on why you avoid using aws ?

[@AnthonySistilli]

AWS has hidden costs everywhere, and was a nightmare to maintain and debug. Our pipelines on AWS were 20mins + to deploy, when I moved to vercel, they were 1 minute or less. AWS has more customization but overall is suuuuper bulky and ridden with hidden costs.

[@francisnjugunaldc]

I was just about to use AWS :)

[@aurelianspodarec2629]

And why are you not?

[@francisnjugunaldc]

@@aurelianspodarec2629 He said we shouldnt use it if we can :)

[@AnthonySistilli]

Haha still a decent option for more complex stuff, but yeah, I'd def steer away if there's better alternatives for your use cases

[@aurelianspodarec2629]

@@francisnjugunaldc Isn't that with every single thing in our life? :) It all depends, doens't it. Its subjective based on what you need.

[@francisnjugunaldc]

@@aurelianspodarec2629 I still used AWS that what's am more proficient at☺️🙏

[@RogerMadeThis]

So these costs are with how many monthly users using your platform? 🤔

[@AnthonySistilli]

500k monthly pageviews

[@jonathanrodriguez1233]

Hey, how much does this startup make per year?

[@egretfx]

when you say AWS isnt cheap and others are better? which others could you at leaast mention a few? thanks

[@AnthonySistilli]

Yeah! You can check out my tech stack video on what I currently use - but for domain buying you can use CF, hosting node applications you can use heroku, hosting React / nextjs you can use vercel, CICD you can use Gitlab

[@SulsaCikkectuve]

Is it me or did you miss the big one Firebase

[@AnthonySistilli]

I personally stopped using firebase in 2019, but I'm sure they're still really good!

[@oscarrdy-old]

Is heroku really cheaper than AWS?

[@ButtonWalls]

WHY DO YOU PRONOUNCE VERCEL LIKE THAT

[@neociber24]

Do it makes any sense for you to run any of those services on a 25$ dollars or cheaper VPS?

[@AnthonySistilli]

hmm there might be great alternatives! This the stack I think is the most popular then

[@thedanyl]

usefull one man

[@TheDarkruler575]

250 dollar on aws is crazy.

[@cotyhamilton]

“Who doesn’t like next js other than a lot of people” 😂

[@NicholasLeong-g6z]

Can I ask a question? Do you code the webapp all by yourself or use a no-code platform like webflow?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Yup! Self coded - i have a video on my channel about the tech stack I used!

[@spicer41282]

Best Info I've Run Into So Far! I've been mulling over 2 startup concepts and been brickWalled with all the puzzle pieces and cost$! Sub'd & 👍Liked! Can you do a vid on OpenSaaS? Love your Content! Keep it Going!

[@AnthonySistilli]

Great to hear! Haven't looked into OpenSaas but I'll take a look :)

[@ingloriouspancake7529]

How much money do you make from it?

[@marvinlewis4113]

Hey, I have a question about login and sign-up. I’m planning to use AWS Cognito since I’m not very experienced in that area. Is it possible to use both AWS Cognito and another solution together?

[@karajkot6735]

Hi, what do you think Azure to host app and and databases so that the database connection isn't exposed to public internet?

[@parkerwarner8688]

Do you use an identity provider?

[@AnthonySistilli]

Just basic Auth!

[@bryanzawlocki]

Just ran into the billing issues with vercel, $700 bill, never been more than $100. Took them 2 weeks to respond

[@JasonJCWright]

How about domestic and international digital tax compliance costs? This is totally critical and a total nightmare if not setup correctly 🤯

[@sunscrave]

So no cost related to branding, registering as and LLC or Corp or any of the long list of little things you need for your business to be registered and legitimate? Just $100/month? I'm sorry I'm pretty shocked here. I'm all ears if someone wants to explain but this just sounds way too good to be true.

[@amerrashed6287]

What about if i deploy saas product on my vps?! Database on neon, u will save a lot of costs?!

[@chrodin]

So you went from 6-700 usd/m on aws to 600 usd/m spread over 7 services whereof at least a few will massively overcharge regularly... sounds... not like a win?

[@AnthonySistilli]

After switching off AWS last year we added a ton of stuff on - with AWS this probably would have been closer to 1k a month

[@ognjenilic4022]

How many users do u have right now that pays u monthly

[@AnthonySistilli]

For the esports business over a few hundred

[@exhaleheart]

Why is cpanel not a good option ?? .. pay for cpanel and point a domain on it

[@AnthonySistilli]

CPanel is a bit outdated ... i'm sure it still works if you're familiar with it!

[@Kelz_codes]

You can tell someone is a junior developer just by listening to them

[@AnthonySistilli]

Hmmm lool

[@psychic8872]

You can always judge people and assign labels to them after listening to what they say

[@mussimbigrace3469]

What have you built beside your lil demos ? Humble yourself