Anti Cheat Update - Console 90 Day Playlist Ban - PC Ban Waves - 6News - Rainbow Six Siege

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[@Nerfyboy800]

Even if its not M&K it's a strike pack. The sheer amount of rapid-fire Blitz mains I've come across recently is ridiculous

[@0ompaLoompa]

Or no recoil on the F2

[@Samouraiii]

@@0ompaLoompathe no recoil part isnt that terrible i can control it but while moving and flicking its near impossible, and i swear 70% or above of the whole player base uses a zen cronus or a strike back, im a diamond player and its every lobby 7/10 people use that shit, 20 metres away no recoil with the f2 or jaegers 416 like literally their reticle doesnt move at all.

[@macarioramirez5672]

@@Samouraiiijaegers gun is easy to laser

[@danieldavis9972]

@@Samouraiiiexactly, same shit I been saying. But then everyone just says get good lol. I’m in the same rank and there’s just no way people are able to control the f2 without the reticle moving especially in long distance. Like you said also while moving and flicking. Also while going against good players. It’s so many of yall who use these workarounds to get some sort of advantage and it’s sad fr.

[@0ompaLoompa]

@@Samouraiii that's exactly what I mean. I see that stuff all the time. Imo, it's even more cheating than using m&k.

[@TheTEN24]

They’re so scared to ban cheaters on console it’s embarrassing and 0 mousetrap improvements

[@Samouraiii]

scared because more than 70% of people playing platinum and above are dossing target crashing people or using xim/zen cronus and thats a lot of people they dont get money from if they ban. thats why and its blatantly obvious. hell dude ive even seen silvers using mnk and zen cronus its embarrassing how much of a cheat magnet this game is on both pc and console

[@TheTEN24]

@@Samouraiii great lose the player base I really wouldn’t care if it went back to pre xim player counts. Guess what half of these losers would switch back to controller because they have nothing else to do with their life

[@Samouraiii]

@@TheTEN24 xim was apparent in diamond ranks even in year 1 not even close to as bad but i dont care either “veteran players” that have been using xim should not have had 9 whole goddamn years to cheat just to get slapped on the wrist and put into pc player lobbies. when they get detected. if those 70%+ players got banned the game would be in a much better state and set a precedent to not cheat in a video game. the ones whove been around that long cheating deserve to lose their 9 year old account

[@TheTEN24]

@@Samouraiii I was diamond in year 1 there was not a single xim player what are you smoking

[@Samouraiii]

@@TheTEN24 there definitely was bro xim and strike packs are not new to gaming that kind of cheating has been around since before even black ops 2, idk if youtube videos from that era of siege exist anymore but players did use xim back then but you should search for some

[@greekPharaoh666]

I feel like half the opponents i have play with mnk, and the fact that they don't get banned is really frustrating to me, because i feel like they don't get any actual sanctions for cheating. And the fact that this change is still like half a year away in this nine year old game is mind boggling to me.

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

Just get good. If simply going against M&K makes you lose, you are just bad at the game! It's that simple!

[@truss2005]

I’m just not playing the game till they actually do something. It’s pretty obvious they don’t do anything because how much of the player base they would lose and all the micro transactions they would lose.

[@truss2005]

@@twiztidsidfreak13same logic would apply to pc when going against cheaters. They just aren’t good. Just deal with it. Backwards thinking.

[@tmoney1487]

​@@twiztidsidfreak13🤡 -you dropped this king

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

@@truss2005 changing your controls isnt cheating. using software to alter the game is. That's my point. If you can't win against K&M you are just bad!

[@mreverything7056]

“Team Update: Our anti cheat team is evolving.” Me who’s been watching VG’s hacker replay for the past 3 years: THERE’S A TEAM FOR THAT?!

[@texasaim776]

I love hacker replay!

[@roke7652]

Players that use alternate devices to manipulate, the system should be banned permanently, but I also like the idea of Ximmers placed in a PCMNK lobby for 90 days. Hopefully they won’t know they have been pushed into a PC lobby. Lol.

[@tmoney1487]

They will know undoubtedly. Its already being said it'll happen after 3 detections and the system informs you when you've been mousetrapped. So when the notification goes off the 3rd time you'll know, wether it directly tells you or not

[@thatoneantoid51]

They should do the GTA thing where cheaters play with cheaters

[@SettyB95]

If they're unbelievably dense, maybe. A lot of MnK players have no chill on PC, even in QM.

[@bac0n_b1tz]

Elo glitch/crash glitch in ranked on console SUCKS.

[@MapleApache]

The things people will do just for a charm is crazy

[@CurryMuncher007]

​@@MapleApache All to get trashtalked in a season or two 'how are you champion if you're so ass?'

[@rominnoodles]

@@MapleApacheit’s always been like that in siege people will use hardware devices, commit crimes like ddosing, and abuse exploits just to get a charm without giving a fuck about kd im happy I got a high rank in 1.0 while going against these sick mfs

[@astolfo4346]

i will never get this shit. why spend a bunch of money on a game, your not even gonna try and play???????? whats the point? you didnt earn nothing so you have nothing to prove your worth. all you did is waist your's and other ppl's time.

[@juusto3_352]

Is this new? Have not seen this glitch.

[@astolfo4346]

i really cant tell the difference with the update to mouse trap on console. pretty much every other game im in has an mnk kid on the enemy team.

[@OhhhPez]

My question is if Ximmers are gonna be put into PC Lobbies, do they also get PC recoil?

[@TMWT]

The system will probably adjust recoil values automatically

[@Midz350i]

They should be perma banned. They are cheaters and should be treated like PC cheaters.

[@abluewhale95]

I agree. But what about false positives that the game think some controller players are using spoofer devices? ​@@Midz350i

[@tmoney1487]

​@@Midz350iPerma bans are unnacceptable as long as false positives are a thing. Its like banning a PC player for wall hacks when they just got a luck collat off a wallbang. They should perfect the system as much as possible before they implement bans. 90 day suspension to PC lobbies is an excellent start in my opinion.

[@Samouraiii]

ximmers use xim apex which has anti recoil properties built into the software. just watcha youtube video. its embarrassing that people use that stuff, so they’ll have no recoil regardless what lobbies theyre in

[@pokemastercube]

i still have seen thought the season many players in jsut quick play with super reactive aming movements (near pin-point aiming jumps to people) and 0 recoil running around.

[@rocketime555]

With ranked 2.0 if you win more than 4 games in a row your reward for your win streak and high MMR is to get nothing but xim kids for the next 6 games. High elo is just them. Nothing else. The start of this season it felt like I was running into less cheaters. Still there but not as bad as deep freeze. Then the ban wave before mid season showed up and the day after every game was infested with cheaters. It was very weird. Now 90% of games have a xim kid in them and it’s worse than ever.

[@Sidewinder1996]

100% this! And all the while for every 4-5 losses of wrecked rp loss there's at least one pity win that gives you that false sense that the losing streak is over and you can fight to your next rank. It's not a damn skill issue, it's a bad matchmaking issue. There should be a chance for either side to fight a proper match every time but the added losses wreck any shred of enjoyment or motivation.

[@rocketime555]

@@Sidewinder1996 exactly. It’s so funny to me that when I go up against the people who aren’t cheating, but are at my ranked level, it’s a blowout for my team. When these kids aren’t cheating they’re terrible. I was hoping the lack of cheaters at season start was because Ubi was doing something with mousetrap or banning in the background but then the ban wave before mid season feels like it brought in more cheaters somehow. So now I have no clue what is going on. P

[@Sidewinder1996]

@rocketime555 I noticed this at some point last season. Around mid-season it screws you over and it's not till the tail end that they fix something and suddenly you can struggle/fight back to the rank you're supposed to be at.

[@rocketime555]

@@Sidewinder1996 it was like last season the cheaters were all right there at the beginning. I remember because it was without exaggeration the worst I had ever seen so I stopped playing. Then this season all the cheaters have shown up at the end.

[@WolfOneTwo3]

HOW TO COUNTER CRASH EXPLOITERS - idk if anyone found this out yet but I found this out purely just on accident, moment u see other team disconnect and you havent crashed yet leave game and reconnect as fast as possible. You’ll be able to cancel out the enemy teams bs attempt to end game and end up getting a round win for free. I tried this on 4 games and it worked each time I encounted this bs (ps4)

[@invasivepenguin8560]

Or ban clash and monty

[@Thysll]

Or don't play this game and save yourself the headache because it's finished.

[@vantattv]

I feel like this is bullshit just yesterday I played back to back against a 5 stack of the same cheaters on pc

[@Tiag0_Richards0n]

Honestly we just need a full season dedicated to fixing cheating. A operation health 2 for cheating alone

[@thatitalianguy6694]

I play on PS5 and have a mouse and keyboard player in nearly every lobby and of course they carry their whole team.

[@Xx0bamaGamingxX]

Welp, I think we can all agree that mousetrap ain't doing sh't, ranked is still full of MnK, and if it's not that it's a cronus or some other stuff. So here we are again, ubi please fix your game, again for the 7th time this year. Thank you.

[@jamesjackson7324]

Stfu. They are working on it. You are not a game dev and have absolutely no idea how bad cheating is in general right now. Grow the f up pay attention. Don't be a moron

[@kenny8378]

I’m in Emerald on console, and from copper to platinum I felt like you could say that every 1/5 games the other team had someone using MnK. In Emerald (Diamond and Champ) lobbies it’s every game and at least 3-4 players. It’s a very noticeable difference when I play Standard vs Ranked, I averaged 13 kills and 3 deaths in standard vs 8K & 6D In ranked. Only had one match in standard where the other team were using MnK

[@afamishedtrout1781]

My whole thoughts for the season were, It was perfect the first week no mnk on console at all, then by the 10th day there was probably an m&k user every four matches then by the second week It completely returned to how it once was..... My thoughts with this game are pretty low because of this maybe hopefully I'll actually enjoy the game again once we're in year 9 season 4 happens; but let's be honest here knowing Ubisoft will probably be pushed back to year 10.

[@WeGambleOnSunday]

Funny thing is, we're getting notifications about bans cross matches. I'm playing and like 2-4 times a match I get a noti that shows 10 players from a different match get banned for a "TOS Breach" lol

[@BG-fv2ql]

Dog, I just played 3 group post this morning on Xbox and each had at least 1 kid on Zim IN MY PARTY. They didn’t update anything 😭😂

[@DIXONSUPERBOY707]

I never noticed M&K players on console until season 1. Now, every match i play has them.

[@Krioly2K]

So if a player on console with mnk, gets paired into PC lobbies. Will they be able to use their mnk without Trap delay?

[@RevolutionDrummer47]

Fix packs!! Every time I open any type of pack, the game freezes. Very annoying.

[@StonexRanger]

mouse trap has been useless since the first month after it came out. this is just ubisoft tryna save face

[@elijahfriesen8111]

An issue with mousetrap for siege is i play on console and i moved across Canada but still play with the homies from where I used to live and playing from the east coast in west coast servers give me mousetrap input delay even though I use the standard xbox controller, doesnt help that my one homies invites his one friend who thinks they're capable of using mnk, they said there gonna get a chronos or xim 💀💀😂

[@billyblood1129]

To counter server glitch on console: when their players all leave the game, have a few people on your team also leave and then reconnect. The game won’t be canceled and you will get a free round win

[@carterpritchard5063]

As a console player I’ve seen way more ban waves this year and I’ve played since year 3, Although a large number of these has been for botting

[@shakeybonessrh]

Haven’t played in a month. I’m happy.

[@johnsnow2144]

This would be a good patch but they haven't addressed the fact that the current mnk bypass does not require any tweaking of the xim apex/matrix. It involves users playing casual on their pc siege account, while playing ranked on their console account which completely bypasses the detection system in place to detect mouse inputs. If they do not fix this, the patches are useless.

[@JoSigs11]

I joined an LFG on Xbox and I shit you not it was 4 little kids all using Cronus. When I joined the party they were talking about what scripts to use and what not. I literally wanted to throw up, it’s so sad how bad gaming is rn. Then they ran riot shields with full auto pistols hip firing. They were so awful at the game too that’s what’s frustrating. All these kids have such big egos for people who cheat

[@monkeyking1265]

Can I say that to fix the crash exploit is to leave as everyone returns and reconnect

[@dezdified6155]

I literally have a extended storage plugged into my ps4 ive had it for months at this point and now r6 is reading it as mnk im hoping i dont get hit with the mousetrap

[@Freakolicious]

It gets better for like 3 days and then they find a work around and it back to xim every game especially in champ lobbies

[@kristianpanting2293]

Unfortunately there's a brand new deducing method on console and it happened to me I'm frustrated about it

[@0ompaLoompa]

Deducing? Do you mean DDOS?

[@Justdream67]

Xim in every game on xbox still

[@Diix_10]

Tell them to Fix the Elo/Crash glitche on consoles !!

[@aquaspark5246]

I like what they are doing with mouse trap. Mnk killed the game for me on console. Now im just playing on pc and i can actually win now. Other then all the cheating of course

[@shooterxc373]

I've got a new record. On 7 matches play I've got 4 games against cheaters and a total cheater count of 12. Like what.

[@glkaden72]

I know 2 Mnk players that I have on my friends list neither are banned or getting any kind of penalty.

[@TestTest-co5iw]

I cant wait to train my custom CNN model to get a onscreen wallhack for r6. Its gonna be fun and will give the option to start to develope a aimbot on console thanks to programming magic and then releasing it publicly for free :)

[@FN_PUT1N]

They need to make mouse and keyboard native

[@terrybart4081]

Ive seen a massive improvement with MnK players on console. However most players dont understand what cheating is and just see something different and presume xim. This doesnt help ubisoft target cheaters on console because someone will be using a device with a macro( strikepack curonus elite controller ect) and will say MnK/ Xim. So ubisoft focuses on mousetrap. I play in champ lobbies EU west and MnK users are not as common now. Xbox seems to cheat way more than playstation. Just wondering if other players have had the same experience or if its the complete opposite for them?

[@DollyBroccoli]

as soon as they posted the note i met a cheater right away 🤦‍♀️

[@jgd5ygdyhcr6]

I hope they fix mousetrap. The amlunt of people i see either ximming or using strike packs on console is crazy. Seeing far more than i used to. Then when u call them out they claim that sgile packs arent cheats and it makes me want to throw a brick at them

[@Mkh-1442]

What if the MnK player plays with his controller friends? Which servers would he join?

[@agent-he5vr]

pc probably

[@Mkh-1442]

@@agent-he5vr yeah I hope so

[@NavaOC]

Just hit champ on pc. If I were to guess 70 percent of my games had someone using some type of cheat whether its recoil scrips walls or blatant aimbot.

[@mattvickers5504]

Mousetrap doesn't work, crazy that they won't ban for people to explicitly cheating the idea of the game on console. They're actually more likely make more people buy one as they're sick of being the underdog

[@samwisegamgee233]

Most players that cheat for a charm most likely spend money on cosmetics. Why else would they not ban them ?

[@decaying_ziggy4527]

Im concerned with rollback for pc this season. I havent lost or gained any and i know it shouldve happened. Had a cheater on my team who got banned in a banwave early on in the season but i never did get the rp reduction for it. Much less any back after dealing with full blatant cheaters on the opposite team.

[@R3TR0XDUDE]

MnK has gotta outta hand already. The fact I’m running into them one game after another’s down right unplayable. Especially being the at I’m a gold player so it’s not even that serious to be cheating.

[@Wake.Up.]

Trust me no you aren't. And I'm a legit controller champ telling you this.

[@shrgien8602]

You are not running into xim in gold

[@denjibun]

Mousetrap literally does not work. I still face xim players almost every other ranked match and it’s ridiculous that it’s still so frequent.

[@0penyafaceup]

from season 1 to current season i have to say the cheating has come to a all time low but being x ESL i must say there are so many closet cheaters , i feel like the reports have an effect on cheaters more so now then before

[@Deadline24Hours]

Played a few games lately, did very very well, even managed to do some silly stuff. Console controller player, get them spoofers out of the game 🔥

[@byrdreciever]

Played back to back blatant cheaters yesterday, and I know they aren't getting banned

[@vexuc607]

I hope after they fix this crash exploit I get atleast 300rp back, because I would’ve been diamond if it didn’t happen so much, it literally happened to me 4 times in a row yesterday, game is actually unplayable on console, embarrassing

[@MrAnthonypaz18]

M&K is horrible on console still feels it got a lot worse

[@humantwist-offcap9514]

The 90 Day PC queue is hilarious. “You wanna act like a big man? Let’s see how you like it.”

[@infernorain469]

So you mean to tell me that everyone who is using the teamkill and leave exploit is getting a slap on the wrist, if anything? We're losing ranked matches because of these exploiters and are even being sanctioned!

[@tmac8623]

Imagine installing a security system to deter thieves and instead it just attracts more with even more break-ins 😂 this will definitely be my last yr. 10 yrs of BS is good enough for me. Great btw

[@undercoverxyz7]

Ubisoft showed again they don't care about the players. Instead of banning them they just put them in the PC section. This is mad! Might move to Black Ops which is coming this year.

[@Uzumakibarage]

Xim matrix has S.A.B. simulate analog behavior. I can promise you mousetrap is not detecting it whatsoever. Not a single game in multiple seasons. So lets assume you get detected once, you increase your S.A.B value to mimic analog movement more and boom your no longer being detected. The new update Xim matrix dropped even made it faster and more accurate/less jitter, smother and more natural to aim without being detected. Most people have multiple accounts on console so you can make a smurf and test out your SAB to make sure you arent detected before you play on your main. Mousetrap sucks and its far to slow to update

[@danielwest8442]

they may as well allow people to run mnk on console at this point😭

[@MattBrunson]

They cant mousetrap actual mnk players but they can mousetrap me on controller 5 times in one day after i get 4-0’d with a 0.25 kd makes sense makes sense

[@jackiechan5263]

They should ban the crash exploiters. These are the type of guys that will just do it again as soon as a new one comes out just get them out of the siege community.

[@TreckStrend]

Got friends using walls everyday for almost 2 months and no ban. They act legit and they do look legit

[@AngerSalt]

So they're going to push all of the XIM/Chronus players without recoil to PC lobbies so we have to deal with them instead of just banning. What an excellent fix... --_--

[@jakekinsella082]

They treat xim users as if they are just doing a silly exploit as it they aren’t blatantly cheating.

[@Razzbow]

Just license vacnet from valve. That stuff is way more effective and isn't even a rootkit

[@shrgien8602]

Lol, vac? Come on man 😂

[@Sidewinder1996]

Throw the book at them. Permanent ip and console ban.

[@zvolchen117]

What's stopping people on Xbox from just turning off crossplay in the system settings?

[@shrgien8602]

What's that going to solve?

[@zvolchen117]

@@shrgien8602 idk. Maybe it'll bug out and force them back into console pools

[@socky85]

I’m so close to quitting siege, Ubisoft is so bad at banning cheaters

[@everythingforyou8188]

Just add an option for mnk or players to play in pc servers

[@Aym4n-]

That’s not gonna fix the issue

[@javierj9345]

Mousetrap is trash. Banned me twice when using literally the controller I got w the system

[@dwr1976]

Would be great if MnK cheaters on console were put in PC queues without any warnings, otherwise they would just switch accounts imho

[@StealthySpace7]

I'd be ok if they charged every player who plays ranked $0.99 a month to play the game in order to hire an extra 50-100 employees to sit there and watch games or watch replays Siege averages about 60k per day in players. That's potentially $120,000 per month. Hire a bunch of people to watch every single match with reported players

[@aspiealex9710]

funny enough that may deter the cheaters, having to make new accounts will add up

[@Pradatoru]

They claimed to have banned 52,5k cheatersin 6months and i still get cheaters every other game ? 😒

[@archeryattacknewcastle3714]

no there hasnt been any improvements. Mouse trap FAILED they need to just give up on it and all the youtubers need to stop lying about how good it is because plain and simple it NEVER worked it was patched within 24 hours

[@aladdinsalih7617]

MnK players are having fun on the other side I got banned just because the servers went down and I couldn't get back to the game. It's Ubishit for you 🤬

[@Fujihanaa]

Mnk killed this game, imagine making a game revolved around 1 shot headshots and we have mnk and cheaters who make the game skill less

[@brentosburn3422]

That's not a ban...

[@chev2500hd1]

no choice. they wanna use 3rd party peripherals than they get 90 day PC lobbies. leave it black and white.....no grey area. these gamers have ruined not just siege, but the entire competitive scene of gaming

[@guru_cj]

No improvement, every game i see xim or strike pack. People don't even hide it.

[@bigeddymachete]

Gonna be insanely easy for pc players to get into console lobbies again 😂

[@pro_154]

Just add native m and k at this point and stop perblocking players that want to aim efficiently

[@mikeyplayz8438]

pc edgelord spotted.

[@MurderNovaz_]

Just ban them who cares if u lose money

[@ellanut8]

ive been mousetrapped probably 15-20 times not even joking i get mousetrapped like 2-3 times every time i play and i use controller

[@thedarkmatthewkabuto]

Same here and it really sucks I started playing the game recently and i got mousetrappped by using my ps5 controller and my wireless headphones that uses a dongle

[@juggernautwzrd]

comment of all "TIME" 5/11 33575

[@Efnol]

if someone cheats, their hardware should get bricked.

[@fataldreams2]

Game is trash anymore glad I stopped playing 2 years ago

[@0ompaLoompa]

Why is everyone in here acting like he isn't a cheater?? According to numbers, 40% of you are cheaters

[@joeyelefteriadis2241]

People who cheat ain’t gonna be watching this

[@0ompaLoompa]

@@joeyelefteriadis2241 suuure. Cheaters ain't watching a video about "anti cheat update". Makes sense

[@joeyelefteriadis2241]

@@0ompaLoompa eh you probably right.

[@JamesBrown-kg7ez]

My friend got mousetrap on PS5 and he doesn't cheat Ubisoft is a joke

[@bugsha2105]

They should make it an IP system so you can’t just hop on a Smurf account to get back into console lobbies

[@aray493]

They need to just allow mnk on console. Can't cheat when everyone is mnk. You can get a usb keyboard and mouse for like $20 at walmart idk why they won't allow it. Cod has had it for years

[@sethriley7672]

Horrible take

[@victors-9711]

Before even watching this. Cheating should’ve been dealt with since day 1. Mnk on console? Ban. Auto ban. Why did it take them so long.

[@StonexRanger]

ubisoft makes more money than ever but adds less content and just delays everything. good company

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

I do not agree with the Mouse and Keyboard crap on console! It's very anti-gamer and anti-consumer! It basically admits that controller is 100% WORSE than K&M and that consoles are LESSER than PC and any PC type hardware gives you an advantage! I shouldn't be forced to a dogshit controller just because keyboard & mouse is BETTER! This is why I play on PC and will NEVER touch a console! If you are mad at K&M on console just give up you are bad! Why would they have crossplay with PC and console when they openly admit PC is better and console is worse in every way?! This is why matches have got so shit, all the console peasants holding back your team!

[@pieck5460]

You probably moan while you wipe

[@bogatir8594]

Stop it. Get some help

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

@@pieck5460 so, no counter argument? just salt?

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

@@bogatir8594 so, no counter argument? just salt?

[@twiztidsidfreak13]

Stay mad console peasants, pc is better and mouse-trap just proves it!