Anti-Tank Chats #2 | Panzerbüchse 39 | The Tank Museum

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2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Anti-Tank Chats, a brand-new series on the history of infantry weapons used in Anti-Tank warfare. In the second episode, Archive and Supporting Collections Manager, Stuart Wheeler explores the Panzerbüchse 39 Anti-Tank Rifle.
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@oilers_fan_77
@oilers_fan_77 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more anti-tank chats
@harryballsacky
@harryballsacky 2 жыл бұрын
WHY ARE YOU SO ANTI TANK....? IF YOU DON'T LIKE TANKS, THEN TANK OFF....LOL
@tjthompson3270
@tjthompson3270 2 жыл бұрын
​ @Harry Ballsacky Well actually, I have to FULLY agree with oilers_fan_77, these terrible machines have caused so much destruction and death across whole of history that it is time to go completely anti-tank from now on! Huge amounts of rapid anti-tank chats will teach them a lesson lol.
@zulubeatz1
@zulubeatz1 2 жыл бұрын
2nd that
@spot1401
@spot1401 2 жыл бұрын
with more complex weapon systems of measures and counter-measures this might actually escalate quickly. "welcome to the anti-anti-anti-anti-air-to-ground missile chat"
@Lykyk
@Lykyk 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he pronounces Büchse as busher, it's completely wrong but funny.
@mcsmash4905
@mcsmash4905 2 жыл бұрын
most people dont know how to pronounce that part properly so i just call it the anti tank rifle
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 2 жыл бұрын
Anti-tank bushes are really an interesting topic.
@thrawnbayern5249
@thrawnbayern5249 2 жыл бұрын
At first i thought this was some kind of nickname bc i understood: Panzerbutcher. Then i realizied he just pronounced it funny. But Panzerpbutcher would be a cool name either xd
@pzwackelmann7681
@pzwackelmann7681 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcsmash4905 "Büchse" is pronounced "Büxe"
@freibier
@freibier 2 жыл бұрын
An approximation (to avoid the "ü" sound) would be "book-se"
@Pocahonkers
@Pocahonkers 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, SmK(H)-Rs-L'spur: a very neat, short, Hansy format for "Spitzgeschoss mit Kern (Hartmetall) Reizstoff Leuchtspur". I actually didn't know that they put tear gas into these rounds until just now, very nifty.
@xxxm981
@xxxm981 2 жыл бұрын
THe Israelis made some in .308 apparently, saw it on one of the GUntubers. Those worked pretty well tho, even after being in storage for 30 years
@johnlovett8341
@johnlovett8341 Жыл бұрын
The muzzle velocity on that thing is amazing.
@MagiciansApprentice1
@MagiciansApprentice1 2 жыл бұрын
I like the concept of the weapon being shown against a vehicle it would have fired upon; then devoting a video that type of weapon for one nation. Looking forward to the next episodes.
@RADIOACTIVEMASCULINITY
@RADIOACTIVEMASCULINITY 2 жыл бұрын
The tear gas round was a clever idea. I’d love to know more about the testing and effect of those rounds. I wonder how many still exist
@Meczyk
@Meczyk 2 жыл бұрын
It was a nice idea - on paper. In real life those capsules in many instances did not enter the vehicle, creating a little problem for soldiers trying to attack the tank with mines, grenades etc., because they were walking into a little cloud of tear gas. And if some capsule did enter the vehicle, the amount of gas in a single round was too small to cause any prolonged problems to the crew. If the shooter would penetrate the same tank with those rounds one after another and another, and every capsule would go inside, than maybe...but as we know, that didn't happened in real life.
@abaialsa712
@abaialsa712 2 жыл бұрын
@@Meczyk Germany should have won.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
Until the enemy answers in fullest with same solution. Except this time with bombs and shells. It was a bad idea because 1)it was useless; 2)it was a potential excuse to escalation of the conflict. Why useless? Ask any tank crew that was already used to suffering from gun exhaust. Bore evacuators were invented only at the end of the war after all. In fact in extreme cases like Hetzer or T-34-76/1940 tear gas would improve air quality inside;)
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 2 жыл бұрын
@@abaialsa712 If Germany wanted to win, they shouldn't have declared war on the entire planet.
@Einwetok
@Einwetok 2 жыл бұрын
As Lukasz says, it was a useless amount. No matter how many you shot into a tank, the crew wouldn't leave their tank because of tear gas. Be glad they didn't get clever and use something potent like Zyklon or white phosphorus.
@stevesullivan9752
@stevesullivan9752 2 жыл бұрын
I've always been fascinated by anti-armour weapons. Something an infantryman can carry to give him a fair shot at taking down a tank, eh? Keep these coming fellas. Cheers from Ireland all.
@TheyCalledMeT
@TheyCalledMeT 2 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't say fair shot, tanks today have all kind's of camera in several light spectra (infra red[~thermal], uv, regular) to find a hidden enemy. i'm sure people are able to shoot at the tanke but wether or not it will cause actual damage and not only do some mean scratches or slight dmg on the outer hull is the question. tbh .. war nowadays is so high tech and partialy automated .. it is just a massacre to send actual people without serious technical equip.
@jmc7034
@jmc7034 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the elements of the museum that’s not normally out on display
@jeffreyjefferson536
@jeffreyjefferson536 2 жыл бұрын
I just re-watched the first episode this week and I was wondering if the series would ever be continued. Yay! I like Mr. Wheeler's presentation and I'm looking forward to episode 3 already. Great video, as always!
@LopekPower
@LopekPower 2 жыл бұрын
This is turning out to be one of your most interesting series. Keep on keeping on 👍
@66kbm
@66kbm 2 жыл бұрын
Its been a long time since Anti Tank was on this channel. Thank you, lets get some more.
@Skorpychan
@Skorpychan 2 жыл бұрын
The anti-materiel rifle never really died as a concept, amusingly. They're still making .50BMG rifles, and people keep trying to sell 20mm and upwards.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
Simply a descendant of wallguns.
@AshleyBlackwater
@AshleyBlackwater 2 жыл бұрын
Whos saying anti-materiel rifles are dead? They still issue them sure, but they ARE dead as anti-TANK rifles. Replaced by recoilless rifles and rocket launchers.
@Skorpychan
@Skorpychan 2 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyBlackwater I just like that the 'big rifle for killing vehicles' is still around, because you can do a surprising amount of damage to things, even an MBT, with a big bullet in the right place. You may not be able to destroy an MBT with one, but you can take out track pins, or knock holes in the engine if you're at the right angle. Or punch clean through the engine block of something unarmoured.
@AshleyBlackwater
@AshleyBlackwater 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skorpychan That's a fun thought for a movie or a game or something, but irl nah. Iirc it's only really EOD units that regularly get issued them. Infantry get recoilless rifles/rocket launchers to deal with armour.
@Skorpychan
@Skorpychan 2 жыл бұрын
@@AshleyBlackwater They're meant to be a special forces thing, or are at least marketed as that. Sneak someone in, disable a bunch of stuff from a mile away, and be gone before the sound reaches the people being shot at.
@jingojango9220
@jingojango9220 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for ep.2 for a while now, and it did not disappoint!
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent once more. Thank you!
@andrewsteele7663
@andrewsteele7663 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent topic, delivered brilliantly, cheers
@davidgorny4766
@davidgorny4766 2 жыл бұрын
Good on ya for fixing the typo so fast! Thank you!
@aferguson850
@aferguson850 2 жыл бұрын
Super excited for this series
@BlueBaron3339
@BlueBaron3339 2 жыл бұрын
I found myself oddly fascinated by that bizarre and ancient-looking weapon. The fact that it looks like something someone picked up off the battlefield moments before this video was made only served to enhance the effect of suddenly stepping through a time portal.
@jakedee4117
@jakedee4117 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, did you notice the battle damage on the Tankgerwehr ? Very clear at 0:40
@chestercallahan8856
@chestercallahan8856 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this series!!
@madmusial
@madmusial 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome glad to see more of this.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video. Thanks to Stuart Wheeler and the team.
@lmyrski8385
@lmyrski8385 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative. A lot I was unaware of!
@nickestes1839
@nickestes1839 2 жыл бұрын
WE NEED MORE OF THESE!!!
@anttimaki8188
@anttimaki8188 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, makes sense that a ammo box bolted into the actual gun would be thrown over in actual use. no one would want that extra weight in actual fight, therefore, rip it off, and carry the ammo elsewhere.
@tonyjedioftheforest1364
@tonyjedioftheforest1364 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I have learned something new, thank you for sharing.
@Subcomandante73
@Subcomandante73 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. This should be a great series. Looking forward to move anti-tank chats.
@kleinerprinz99
@kleinerprinz99 2 жыл бұрын
Like those chat series. Very informative! :)
@jon1801
@jon1801 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and interesting, thank you.
@daguard411
@daguard411 2 жыл бұрын
As most do, you have overlooked the 11mm Mauser. During WW1 it could penetrate virtually all of the available shielding used during that war, and during WW2 it was able to do so against medium and light armor. What I have always found amazing about the rifle and the cartridge is that from it's development in 1871 until it finished production in 1945, it used black powder.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt . 11,15x60 had lead bullet without jacket. In wwl this cartridge and rifle was used by navy, Landsturm, native colonial troops and police. In wwll only by Volkssturm.
@daguard411
@daguard411 2 жыл бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 I never wrote that it was a lead projectile with no jacket. If I may add that your writing has the Mauser 11mm being used in a very limited fashion. That was not so.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 2 жыл бұрын
@@daguard411 : I am not the Pope, so it is possible, that i made a mistake. But i have never heared, that there had been other balls than lead and a ,Wachpatrone' with two real balls for riot use. It is possible, that there had been bullets with jacket or steel tip ( in limited numbers such bullets had been produced for french Chassepot), but i don' t know. As far as i know, production of 11,15x 60 ended in 1920s. So the M71 and M71/84 used in wwll by Volkssturm had been somehow remaining weapons and ammunition/ Restbestände , they had been used, because there was a total lack of firearms for this militia, some members used their private hunting/ target rifles. ( In France german troops captured french 1874 Gras rifles convertet to 8 mm Lebel, or in wwl new produced Remington Rolling Block rifles also in 8mm Lebel, but i don' t know if Wehrmacht used this outdated weapons.) In wwl the 11,15x60 was used by mostly coloured native soldiers in german colonies Togo, Kamerun, Deutsch Ostafrika and South Sea. In Tsingtao/China only a small policeforce of chinese existed, and for a riot in 1900s in Deutsch Südwestafrika no black soldiers had been there. Also in colonies of other countries, colonial native troops had often older weaponry. As far as i know, in Europe only rearline troops of Landsturm ( don' t confuse it with Volkssturm) and Navy used the old rifles, so i don't think , this troops had much need for much or specialized ammunition.
@nelsonglover3963
@nelsonglover3963 Жыл бұрын
@@daguard411 but it was a lead projectile with no jacket. It was also blunt nosed, with a muzzle velocity of ~1500fps. Not remotely suited for anti armour use.
@daguard411
@daguard411 Жыл бұрын
@@nelsonglover3963 If you would provide me with evidence that Mauser, and Germany, were in violation of the 1899 Hague Declaration prior to 1945? I've never heard or read of any such events.
@Xiao_PP
@Xiao_PP 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@russeljohn3471
@russeljohn3471 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting presentation. More please. 😊👍
@ww2.militaria
@ww2.militaria 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, really interesting!
@Ereptor96
@Ereptor96 2 жыл бұрын
You have an error in your thumbnail. It should be Panzerbüchse and not Panzerbüsche. It would mean something like tank bushes in German.
@christianvitroler5289
@christianvitroler5289 2 жыл бұрын
But that is how it was pronounced :-)
@u.s.1974
@u.s.1974 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianvitroler5289 I seriously doubt that. I wonder why they never ever check how to correctly pronounce German words. Either google it, as there is always a transcription in the International Phonetic Alphabet or ask a German native speaker.
@Ereptor96
@Ereptor96 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianvitroler5289 I meant the thumbnail. But they already corrected it.
@christianvitroler5289
@christianvitroler5289 2 жыл бұрын
@@u.s.1974 I meant to say, he actually pronounced it as BÜSCHE (bushes) :-)
@floriangeyer3454
@floriangeyer3454 2 жыл бұрын
@@u.s.1974 German "translations" of US and UK documentations are even more abominable. Believeme, I am German, we do not have a sense of humor we're aware of
@johnthomson6507
@johnthomson6507 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance you could cover the ptrs and ptrd? Anti tank rifles by simonov and degtarev?
@gusty9053
@gusty9053 2 жыл бұрын
Look up Forgotten Weapons. I think he covered all of the AT rifles of WW2 and some of the post war ones.
@brunor.1127
@brunor.1127 2 жыл бұрын
They Probaly will eventually, they're very famous
@paulhills1967
@paulhills1967 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you
@north61
@north61 2 жыл бұрын
Love it... now don't make us wait so long for #3!!!!!
@StrangelyBrownNo1
@StrangelyBrownNo1 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why but I feel this host is not someone to mess with.
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education.
@vanvan-oc4nj
@vanvan-oc4nj 2 жыл бұрын
Thx, very interesting !!!
@epicjojobro
@epicjojobro 2 жыл бұрын
These are great!
@happyisthealero
@happyisthealero 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful gun!
@file4130
@file4130 2 жыл бұрын
At long last My favorite anti tank weapon ever
@jamesd3472
@jamesd3472 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Can I ask how often this series will be updated?
@MrPh30
@MrPh30 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see it was a fallblock action they developed, one can reload quite quick with them and they are very strong compact and versatile actions.
@jakobsavsek7351
@jakobsavsek7351 2 жыл бұрын
I am hyped about this series becouse i really like at rifles
@HellskyMr
@HellskyMr 2 жыл бұрын
Nice !
@burntbybrighteyes
@burntbybrighteyes 2 жыл бұрын
The english: Germans can’t pronounce anything Also the english: Panserbusha
@burntbybrighteyes
@burntbybrighteyes 2 жыл бұрын
Just joking no bully plz
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 2 жыл бұрын
I'm English and I agree with you. Even I know how to properly pronounce it and German wasn't among the languages I studied in school. Hearing a so-called expert mangling the pronunciation is rather embarrassing.
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard or seen any English speaker say that Germans can't pronounce things. In fact they tend to have much better command of languages than English speakers.
@Darilon12
@Darilon12 2 жыл бұрын
It's our own mistakes we hate seeing the most even if they're performed by somebody else.
@burntbybrighteyes
@burntbybrighteyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalbadger Don't take it too seriously it was only meant as a friendly little jab and nothing more.
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 2 жыл бұрын
Panzerbusher ( lol) is a rare variant of the Panzerbüchse.
@samuelvimes5770
@samuelvimes5770 2 жыл бұрын
or it´s the title of one of his favorite 70s porn movies
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelvimes5770 lol
@philipryan25
@philipryan25 2 жыл бұрын
The Tank Museum 👏👏👍
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 2 жыл бұрын
Great subject for a series... in fact, what took you so long? :-)
@charleslatora5750
@charleslatora5750 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool👍👍
@tekis0
@tekis0 2 жыл бұрын
"Anti-Tank Chats"? What a great idea!
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 2 жыл бұрын
It was coined by one of the commenters for what is effectively episode zero, which is still named as being a Tank Chat.
@isaiahcampbell488
@isaiahcampbell488 2 жыл бұрын
These would have made panzer 1 turrets a little more useful in Poland. Maybe have one in four outfitted. But that would have mostly only been useful against tanketts in the the opening months of the war in Europe (which went well enough for the Germans). The Polish had a few of their TKSs mounted with 20mm semiautomatic anti tank rifles and they wrecked havoc on the light German vehicles (until they were abandoned by crews of destroyed).
@Ghostmaxi1337
@Ghostmaxi1337 2 жыл бұрын
Is the typo in the thumb nail intended?
@06colkurtz
@06colkurtz 2 жыл бұрын
Like the intro
@kippamip
@kippamip 2 жыл бұрын
I feel a collaboration with Ian (aka gun jesus) over at forgotten weapons would do this little series a world of good 👍🏼😁.
@foxtrotromeo25
@foxtrotromeo25 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Forgotten Weapons channel also has videos on German antitank rifles for further reference.
@noahwail2444
@noahwail2444 2 жыл бұрын
And C&Arsenal..
@n.a.4292
@n.a.4292 2 жыл бұрын
"Panzer Busher 39", the greatest lawnmower ever designed
@uIfsark
@uIfsark 2 жыл бұрын
The pronunciation is a bit off, it should be "Bükse" not "Büchse" but great video still.
@stephank9172
@stephank9172 2 жыл бұрын
obligatory ;D its sounds alot like "panzerbusche"
@Blastoice
@Blastoice 2 жыл бұрын
Whys it taken you like 9 months to make the 2nd episode of anti tank chats? 😁 They are really good!
@MultiZirkon
@MultiZirkon 2 жыл бұрын
03:37 Facinating to see that that the Norwegian late cold war infantery company was much heavier with regards to anti-tank weapons. Not with three anti-tank weapons per company, but three anti-tank rifles (84 mm) per platoon... So we had a punch after all 👍
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 2 жыл бұрын
Panzerbuchse 38/39/40 (Super powered, low velocity Tungsten-tipped 7.92mm rounds)
@quantumplastic
@quantumplastic 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍👍👍😷
@tanfosbery1153
@tanfosbery1153 2 жыл бұрын
Informative video, can't believe the number of comments on the correct pronunciation, rather than the quality of the information
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is, that he does not only misspronounce but butcher the words, leaving vocals and consonants out and adding new ones in, forming completely new, often non existand words. also the information content is a bit shaky, as he starts to use the "Name" "Spur" (even tho he pronounces it as Schper) for the ammunition. but the Ammunition is called Patrone 318 and the "Spur" comes only at the end of the ammunition component description: SmK-R-L´spur (Spitzkopfgeschoss mit Kern, Reizstoff und Leuchtspur -> pointed FMJ with AP Core / APCR with CS Gas insert and Tracer). The L´spur is an abreviation of Leuchtspur, wich would translate to Tracer. also his pronounciation is extremly off, turning Leuchtspur into Lutschschper (schper is not a word in german and Lutsch means licking) etc. his pronounciation is comparable to turning Lee Enfield into Gee Brenfiel or something like that. not just misspronounced but totally failed. and thats the main point of grief. if you are a professional talking infront of a camera about a topic you should know about, you should be able to properly pronounce the words you are going to use, not make up something from your mind, wich is extremly unprofessional.
@centurionmk5236
@centurionmk5236 2 жыл бұрын
do you guys have the polish anti tank pistol, the ViS wz.35?
@dylanmilne6683
@dylanmilne6683 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see things in chronology but at the same time I think it would be better to see a wider variety of weaponry.
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 2 жыл бұрын
WOnder if you've got PTRS/PTRD in the Museum's collection?
@NomadShadow1
@NomadShadow1 2 жыл бұрын
cool
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
There were two ways to proceed with such rifles later in the war since the existing round was less effective soviet 14.5x114 specifically designed for the purpose: 1)German solution - convert AT rifle into grenade projector. Best suited for lighter AT rifles; 2)Finnish/japanese solution - convert AT rifle into AA autocannon(it's still better then 7.62 medium mg for that). Best suited for those heavy 20mm semiauto AT rifles.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
*less effective THEN soviet I'm getting tired of phone eating/adjusting my comment while I'm typing it:(
@Nuinwing
@Nuinwing 2 жыл бұрын
As a Finn I'm just waiting for them to get to the Lahti L-39.
@mattbite
@mattbite Жыл бұрын
Very similar was the Polish wz. 35 Ur - also coming from the 7,92mm Mauser. Penetration figures were similar to German counterpart, the difference was the damage it made. Since the ammunition used lead, which upon impact deformed like in the later Panzerfaust (shaped charge), despite little in terms of caliber, the hole it made in the armor was almost triple it's size. It could penetrate all German or captured Czechoslovak tanks used in September 1939, including early versions of Panzer IV. Few thousands were made, some captured by Germans found use in Afrika Korps, some in Finland, some were sold to Italy. In Polish resistance's hands it was used in limited numbers to knock out vehicles of German occupying forces but also as highly effective sniper rifle.
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 6 ай бұрын
Actually that rifle could not penetrate armor. Soft lead bullet struck armor so hard that it caused spalling at other side and that caused damage inside.
@JasonSkye
@JasonSkye 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know who wrote the music in this video?
@tim1polman
@tim1polman 2 жыл бұрын
Büchse is pronounced Buckse. :) Very interesting nevertheless
@megatwingo
@megatwingo 2 жыл бұрын
To be more exactly: Bueckse. This is one of the few times, where the "ch" is really pronunced the way the English speakers normally mispronounce the "ch" in German words.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
I'm somewhat thankful that nobody in Germany had looked at ammo used by MG-151/15 when thinking about future AT rifle.
@letoubib21
@letoubib21 2 жыл бұрын
How about 20 mm? *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solothurn_S-18/100*
@comradecosmonaut7746
@comradecosmonaut7746 2 жыл бұрын
The Wehrmacht fielded solothurn 20mm instead not that much different . Anti tank rifles became useless in general a bigger caliber would've just made them realise it later so if at all you propably should be sad that they didn't start with bigger calibers.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
@@letoubib21 20mm was proprietary round taken from other firearms. It was designed for different purpose in mind and was giving up too much velocity for bigger caliber. 14,5mm AT rifles>20mm AT rifles. You need to find balance between bullet weight, caliber and velocity. 12,7mm was too small(and usually simply using existing .50 cases which meant low velocity), 20mm too big. Around 15mm was ideal for a rifle that was meant to be carried and shot by a human being. And even then it already require muzzle brake and some sort of quarter/semi/full auto system to eat up some recoil. Both germans and british had 15mm rounds that would have worked great, but only soviets adopted 14,7x114 AT rifle with purpose designed ammo. Why? Because english wikipedia article keeps quite about a dozens of soviet AT rifles created in 1930's ranging from 7,62x114 to 12,7mm to 20mm ones, all tested and documented. Result was creation of 14,5x114 round specifically designed for AT rifles.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын
@@comradecosmonaut7746 same response as to guy above. Stop assuming people you meet on such channels are less informed then you, please, it's annoying.
@agskytter8977
@agskytter8977 2 жыл бұрын
The PZB39 is perfect for rebarreling to 50BMG, and fitted with a match quality barrel, more accurate than the Barrett semi auto.
@derferdi2979
@derferdi2979 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next Video on the Boys AT-rifle! Hopefully there will be no mispronouncing of the english names...
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 2 жыл бұрын
they should at least take an foreigner to make that video and butcher the pronounciation of everything too^^
@jimswan3203
@jimswan3203 2 жыл бұрын
More Anti chats !!!
@guypierson5754
@guypierson5754 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I am so looking forward to the advancement of this series. Can't wait 'till we compare how the US made bazooka then super bazooka, Germany developed panzerfasut and panzerschrecks, and the British put down their pint and said "You know what Dave? I bet you could launch a shaped charge with a bloody big spring, wanna have a go?"
@MagiciansApprentice1
@MagiciansApprentice1 2 жыл бұрын
The PIAT came first and did the job of replacing the Boyes. Germans development? They looted some bazookas in North Africa from the US who didn't have anyone trained to use them.
@guypierson5754
@guypierson5754 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagiciansApprentice1 Just jokes mate :D
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Forgotten Weapons for technical details of a lot of these models.
@FriedrichHecker1848
@FriedrichHecker1848 2 жыл бұрын
This gun is from my hometown.
@sebastianrenners5741
@sebastianrenners5741 Жыл бұрын
How great is the penetration in 90° vs steel?
@frederickvondinkerberg7721
@frederickvondinkerberg7721 2 жыл бұрын
it's David Baddiel again !!
@radosaworman7628
@radosaworman7628 2 жыл бұрын
i hope that one day you will be able to investigate wz.35 ur
@comradecosmonaut7746
@comradecosmonaut7746 2 жыл бұрын
Same although it wouldn't be interesting it's just a tank Gewehr but in an 8mm round much like the one in the panzer Buchse 39 so they would've covered those concepts already.
@radosaworman7628
@radosaworman7628 2 жыл бұрын
@@comradecosmonaut7746 Not exactly. Pzb 39 relied on hard steel and tungsten while Ur used soft steel coated in brass with lead core creating heavier bullet. Combaining this with higher velocity it relied on creating as many shrapnell out of armored plate as possible, killing the crew- just like hesh rounds. Combine it with 4-round internal magazine you have way diffrent animal using very similar ammo.
@comradecosmonaut7746
@comradecosmonaut7746 2 жыл бұрын
@@radosaworman7628 so what it comes down to is its a tank Gewehr with a magazine. Like I said I'd like to see it but I don't think it brings anything new to the table it's just a multishot tank Gewehr with the same idea of slamming a small projectile into something at high speed (even if the round itself was made of different material). It's still a very cool and interesting weapon I just don't think it brings any thing new to the table in terms of discussing anti tank weapons that it's worth making an episode for.l that's all.
@radosaworman7628
@radosaworman7628 2 жыл бұрын
@@comradecosmonaut7746 one have to penetrate armor while the other doesn't. I think it's quite significant change when it comes to efectivness of the weapon.
@patrickcloutier6801
@patrickcloutier6801 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of a life the weapon would have had, had the 13mm round been retained. The Soviets got a lot of life and value for their 14.5mm anti-tank rifles...
@martkbanjoboy8853
@martkbanjoboy8853 2 жыл бұрын
During these early campaigns I wonder how much these were used as a platoon dmr rather than a strict anti tank only weapon?
@Temp0raryName
@Temp0raryName 2 жыл бұрын
Anti Material rifles tend to not be accurate enough to be effective against people, at the kinds of ranges that marksmen would be needed. The trade-offs in weapon design for them typically requires emphasising penetration and damage potential. Whereas these weapons only needed to be accurate enough to hit tanks. And at relatively short ranges to maximise their effect. Plus Germany had a severe problem with enemy tanks, so I very much doubt that they would have diverted vital anti-tank weapons, for anything other than improvised use (say against tactically problematic soldiers protected by light cover).
@jaykingsun7093
@jaykingsun7093 2 жыл бұрын
What's that tank you're standing in front of with the Panserbuche on?
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 2 жыл бұрын
vickers mkv/vi light tank
@hanfpeter2822
@hanfpeter2822 2 жыл бұрын
The tankbeech.
@OldCrowle
@OldCrowle 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the pronunciation of Panzerbüchse is tough for non-Krauts. It sounds not so much like „Panzer-bush-uh“, more like „Panzer-big-suh“.
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 2 жыл бұрын
Forvo...
@Neeverseen
@Neeverseen 2 жыл бұрын
The "chs" in "Panzerbüchse" is pronounced like "kks" so "Panzerbükkse" :) Kind regards from Germany, love your vids.
@JohnyG29
@JohnyG29 2 жыл бұрын
Well I'm sure you lot don't pronounce every English word 100% correctly, so I wouldn't worry about it.
@Warpwaffel
@Warpwaffel 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 Well it is pretty annoying when your anti-tank rifle gets turned into tank bushes. It's not just slightly off, it completely changes the meaning to nonsense.
@Neeverseen
@Neeverseen 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 I'd welcome if a foreigner told me how to pronounce words in his native language correctly, especially if I worked in a museum. It's not like my comment was worded in an arrogant or offensive way.
@comradecosmonaut7746
@comradecosmonaut7746 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnyG29 it's not about being slightly of such as the lack of an umlaut or the inevitable pronunciation with accent, but about using a completely wrong word. He's literally calling it a tank Bush. That's like if we called tea coffee. Also you'd think a museum a place of education should try to atleast get close to how it's supposed to be said even if due to language barrier you can never reach the 100% correct pronunciation wich is fine. But hey great way of acting like an arrogant prick. Guess that comes with the benefit of (like some in this comment section have worded it) having "won the war" and not needing to give a damn about accurate presentation of information if it's about the enemy.
@asator0505
@asator0505 2 жыл бұрын
@@comradecosmonaut7746 if only there were some sort of place you could visit where you can check stuff like pronunciation. something, you know. where you dont even have to leave your house and can connect with billions of people almost instantly and access an incredibly great collection of information and human knowledge. i dont know, i am probably just dreaming stuff up. would be cool, though :/
@daveybernard1056
@daveybernard1056 2 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to link to some period, first hand accounts of people using ATR's. In any war.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
Folks may find this interesting, but many of those German First World War anti-tank rifles that found their way here to the US were converted by some firearms enthusiasts to the .50 cal Browning machine gun round, an easy conversion and lot easier to find ammunition. However, it was NO more pleasant to shoot than the original 13mm round! After a lot of "OW! OW!" most found a home as wall-hangers and curiosities.
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great series, happy to see the second episode! Although it always pains me to know that all of the small arms in the Tank Museums collection are destroyed pieces of history (i.e. deactivated), which I'd rather have been preserved intact.
@tanfosbery1153
@tanfosbery1153 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, museums should get a special license. They could always remove essential components and store them separately so that the weapon could not fire
@skepticalbadger
@skepticalbadger 2 жыл бұрын
@@tanfosbery1153 Museums do. It's literally called a Museum Firearms Licence.
@Ethnarches
@Ethnarches 2 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalbadger The Tank Museum doesn't have that license, if there is such a license in the UK or they have chosen to deactivate the guns as they mentioned in their small arms videos that all of them are deactivated.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 2 жыл бұрын
The joys of governments not trusting their people and the People letting their governments control them unchallenged. It is not illegal, nor even particularly hard for a museum to get licenses to own firearms, but of course, the government doesn't like "dangerous weapons," so the government requires a mountain of expensive legal obligations on the museum to discourage them actually applying for the license. Simply cheaper to break your guns than to pay the fees and people you have to pay to keep the guns intact. Even if you can afford it, all it takes is one government official declaring you are in violation of the rules and all your guns become illegal weapons to be destroyed for the public's safety. At least, deactivated, the guns are here, have provenance, and can be restored when the laws change, as opposed to being scrapped or dumped in the middle of the ocean like so many other firearms have been been by Her Majesty's Government.
@Kyle-gw6qp
@Kyle-gw6qp 2 жыл бұрын
@@genericpersonx333 The UK is pretty safe, thanks to it's strict firearm laws. Did you know the UK's murder rate is far lower than US's?
@25xxfrostxx
@25xxfrostxx 2 жыл бұрын
I'd bet the tear gas round was a proof of concept that would have led to something far more nasty being loaded into it if it had worked.
@comradecosmonaut7746
@comradecosmonaut7746 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt it. putting something else in it such as poison gas in the bullet would've counteracted the Germans effort to keep such weapons out of the war.
@irisheyes9634
@irisheyes9634 2 жыл бұрын
The music wasn't loud enough, we could still hear you.
@derekmcmanus8615
@derekmcmanus8615 2 жыл бұрын
I see a Tank museum video and I click like
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to see someone Ackley Improve that cartridge. Get rid of those sloping shoulders, and straighten out those case walls.
@danielc.7295
@danielc.7295 2 жыл бұрын
Paantserbookse is the best transliteration that I can come up with. Yes, I am German and know how to pronounce it.
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you use the symbols of the International Phonetic Alphabet, your description means absolutely nothing.
@adamtennant4936
@adamtennant4936 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video. It's pronounced parntserberkzeh though.
@santossteven97
@santossteven97 2 жыл бұрын
Die Englischen Militärmuseen machen die meisten Klicks mit Deutschen Militärwaffen und Geräten aus dem 2. Weltkrieg 😄
@Musketeer009
@Musketeer009 2 жыл бұрын
Ja. Wir sind gud.
@goodsous
@goodsous 2 жыл бұрын
They are clearly better at marketing than the Germans. 😄
@Lykyk
@Lykyk 2 жыл бұрын
Sieger der Herzen nannte Stefan Raab das mal glaube ich.
@spot1401
@spot1401 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lykyk Der Tod ist ein Meister (der Herzen) aus Deutschland Lol
@ashhillmodels3801
@ashhillmodels3801 2 жыл бұрын
Die müssen sich ja auch nicht schämen.
@Beppo_Hetzer
@Beppo_Hetzer 2 жыл бұрын
Leuchtspur, the eu is like oi and the u is like a ou, loichtspour, there you go. And Buechse is Bewxe.
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, there is no "ew" in German. It's something between "beexe" and "booxe".
@Beppo_Hetzer
@Beppo_Hetzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaclav_fejt well, i checked it on first text to speech i could find online, most of the time they say it letter by letter, but "alice" says it proper and it sounds more like the original then your 2 suggestions. And "something between" doesnt really help, does it. Now i have to tell Ewald that there is no ew in german, jk i know what you mean.
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beppo_Hetzer I meant "ew" as "yoo". If you want "yoo", you just write "ju".
@kiereluurs1243
@kiereluurs1243 2 жыл бұрын
Better listen on Forvo.
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 2 жыл бұрын
Really picking some choice bangers there mate =8-D 3:24 Leuchtspur is pronounced "Loihtspoor". (More or less; the ch is not really a part of English either.) (There's two ways to pronounce it in German; none of them is "k".)
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