What Is Not Typically Talked About in Physical Therapy? Documentation, Writing Notes, Paperwork

What is not typically talked about in physical therapy? Documentation, Writing Notes, and Paperwork is not a common topic when it comes to PT. In this video I hope to break down the process of writing notes and how to document in physical therapy to help out PTAs and PTs in this career.
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[@graced2777]

I am really glad I found your channel. Building my passion.

[@lisapotter418]

Excellent video....great reminders of seriousness and importance of proper documentation !

[@trevorross8204]

Thank you made it so simple

[@SquatsAndThoughts]

Great info. Thinking about audience was a great tip!

[@AntonioSanson]

jerrodmel awesome! Glad we could shed some light in the topic

[@shelbyeckhoff3633]

Hey thank you for all of your videos I have recently decided that I want to be a physical therapist assistant (I am a sophomore in high school) and your videos are really encouraging.

[@AntonioSanson]

Shelby Eckhoff that’s great! That is cool that you are interested in this field!

[@brianalenae8403]

Hi Shelby! I recently graduated high school and started my PTA program a week ago. If you are able to seriously look into doing your pre requisites for dual credit. It has made my life much easier! I will be the youngest to ever graduate from my program now. Best of luck!

[@yanaSolomon]

so glad I found your channel!

[@AntonioSanson]

Iyana Solomon that’s great! Are you planning to become a pta?

[@yanaSolomon]

Antonio Sanson yes I am I just started looking into it. I'm currently a CNA so I'm familiar with patient care but I'm looking forward to something more challenging and satisfying. hopefully this is it 😊

[@kaitlin3102]

I definitely want to be a physical therapist when I’m older, so I love learning about this kind of stuff! I had no idea how much paperwork was involved. I hope it’s not too boring haha. Btw I just subscribed. Thanks for making these videos ^_^

[@AntonioSanson]

Ali May that’s awesome! Sometimes the paperwork can be a drag but it’s part of the job lol. Thanks for subscribing and I’m glad you are liking the channel!

[@dianadiaz4489]

Hi Antonio I recently found your channel. I'm starting my fist semester on PTA in January 2020. I'm glad that I found your channel. Do you have any videos about the actual classes while in PTA? What are harder? How to study for success?

[@chewie1355]

I spent my Saturday night catching up on my documentation. The worst part for me

[@allisontipton9934]

I’m in PTA school now and I know this video is so old, but we are learning about documentation now and I was having trouble understanding the SOAP notes the way my professors taught us, so this video was so helpful!!

[@AntonioSanson]

Way cool! lol Is the program like you thought it would be?

[@allisontipton9934]

Antonio Sanson For the most part, yes! i’m only in my first semester so I know it’ll only get harder from here. I just take things one day at a time! But overall I love it, and I am always excited to learn!

[@CodyVella]

@@allisontipton9934 How difficult do you find it? I m so passionate about this but so afraid of how hard it will be for me!

[@asherlevtan9798]

I remember when I was a student, there is no day that We did not do SOAP notes every day for the 2years, Monday - Friday.

[@zanegraham5946]

Good info. Can the two of you do a video on the pta to dpt bridge programs?I think that is something not talked about often and would be helpful. Thanks

[@AntonioSanson]

Zane Graham absolutely! Hopefully I can have it posted in 2 weeks

[@hisayoshi]

Thanks for the videos. I wanted your thoughts on insurance companies and their reimbursement rates for small private clinics. I'm finding that the reimbursement rates are not substantial enough to warrant establishing contracts with the insurance companies and are not open to negotiate the rates due to being a small business entity as opposed to larger Healthcare providers.

[@congyiq5918]

I like you said considering subscribing. Most KZbinr will said please subscribe and some will even pause a bit for you to actually do it.

[@carlosvillanueva8538]

Hey Antonio loving the channel! Any advise on how to take better SOAP notes. I want to keep a good level of engagement (eye contact & active listening ) with a case study while documenting everything accurately. I have a hard time doing both at the same time.

[@AntonioSanson]

Carlos Villanueva right I know what you mean, I feel like with practice you will get better at obtaining pertinent information to write in your notes, and you will get better at knowing what to ask the patient to meet what insurances want to see and things like that. We can try to put together a more in depth video in the future.

[@Slickenzi]

Yea a lot of notes and documentation

[@ShadraqsVids16]

Awesome info. I always thought of specific notes as being most beneficial for the patient but I never thought about saving your own ass as well.

[@elbowtko]

Just to let others out there know. If 60% is treating patients and 40% is documentation. That means 8 hours of patient work and 3.2 hours of paperwork spread throughout the day with most people skipping their lunch in addition to spending an hour after work to finish it, unpaid.

[@JacobMireles]

Seems like a common issue across the industry that needs innovation.

[@mimiwashere93]

Awesome!!! A lot of jobs require note taking. I don't know if you mentioned it but, how do you keep track of what happened while treating the patient? Do you record the session and then take notes after? Because I know I'll tend to forget if I'm not writing as I go. But I assume you can't write as you go with physical therapy.

[@AntonioSanson]

Miriam I. It depends on what works best for you. I typically will write my subjective at the start of treatment and then finish the other sections after the treatment session. But sometimes it’s helpful to write a few bullet points of important information in the middle of your treatment session while the patient is taking a small break and then go back later and finish your note.

[@rohansharma3941]

Very informative. Just quick question, what sort of patient record keep software you use or recommend. And do you have all scanned for soft copies or you keep hard copies of patient records.

[@AntonioSanson]

We use webpt and do everything online

[@ambikaaravindan3952]

Hi Excellent video. I am a physical therapist with 9 yrs experience from India. Do you help with licensing exams to practise Texas?

[@Artdigitalmarketingcity]

Great video! Does the notes have to be long? Do you normally have to put a lot of medical terminology, or can you use abbreviations in the notes? As a PTA can you give me an example on what you would put in the plan section :) You the BEST!

[@AntonioSanson]

Anatomy depends on how much you do in the treatment section and then just capture the pertinent information in the note. I use medical terminology just to make my notes clear and simple never to add them just for the sake of having them. I put what I plan to do for future sessions. So if I plan to work on gait training and improving knee extension with stretching or something like that, then that is what I would put.

[@Artdigitalmarketingcity]

Thank you for the response! You better remember my name Anatomy when you get big

[@erinfreeman6661]

I have a question. I am currently taking prerequisites for a PTA program and it requires 2 math classes. How does math mix into physical therapy? I need to take elementary statistics so would I need to do some statistics while working or taking notes on the patients?

[@AntonioSanson]

Erin Freeman honestly I don’t use math too often in physical therapy. The only times I can think of would be for counting your units you will bill out. But nothing too extensive.

[@alvernalveigr4449]

Nice video. Great content. Thank you. I feel the same way, I hate writing notes. If I can only designate it to someone else, I would, lol ☺

[@AntonioSanson]

Alvern Alveigr hahaha I can totally relate! Do you work in this field?

[@alvernalveigr4449]

@@AntonioSanson yes, I'm a Physical Therapist ☺

[@AntonioSanson]

Thats awesome! What are some video topics you would be interested in learning more about since you already are a PT?

[@alvernalveigr4449]

@@AntonioSanson as of now, nothing in particular. I'm just enjoying your videos. When I'm done watching them all, then I can suggest something ☺

[@AntonioSanson]

Alvern Alveigr thanks for the support!

[@Healthiswealthto]

Nice vedio

[@nickminor831]

How many hours/week do you think you put into schooling? I currently balance a 50 (sometimes more) hour work week, exercise at least 15 hours a week, and spend time with the wife a kid. I'm only asking because I am hearing from a lot of your videos that its time consuming although your version of time consuming may be different than mine. I want to be able to balance school , exercise, and time with my family. Obviously I can't work 50+ hours anymore. Thanks for all the information!

[@AntonioSanson]

Nick Minor I’m actually gonna post a video next week on how to manage school and work! I don’t remember specifically but you do spend quite a bit of time dedicated towards school. As long as you can set up a schedule to designate specific time for school and to study then you can still manage to get some family time and exercise in as well. I believe in living a balanced life so taking time for each area in your life is important. But also remember that school is an important priority to finish because once you are done then you can have a more relaxed schedule!

[@maricarmenf1546]

Do you have any extra tips on documenting the A portion?

[@AntonioSanson]

Maricarmen F that is the section where you want to document how the patient is responding to the treatment. So you could document things that are important to how they do with the exercises, like things such as: if they are progressing, what are they struggling with, are they reaching goals, Things that would be important for how they are responding to the interventions and where they are still lacking. Does that help some?

[@terryharris9265]

Unless I missed it why did you choose not to introduce the woman in the video with you and whether she is a PT or PTA?

[@AntonioSanson]

No reason really, I have a lot of other videos that introduce us and this one we just didn't do an intro like that. Her name is Mehgan Krick PT, DPT, OCS if you were curious.

[@rahulchaudhari7164]

Physical therapist are Doctors in U.S.A?

[@AntonioSanson]

Rahul chaudhari yes they have their doctorates degree.

[@rahulchaudhari7164]

DPT degree holder are also called Dr.?

[@AntonioSanson]

Rahul chaudhari depends, Some people like to call themselves doctors or will introduce themselves as Dr. ______ . And they do technically have their doctorates degree but I usually just call them Physical Therapists not doctors. It depends who you talk to.

[@shannonbrown6582]

Sounds like personal training, somewhat.

[@AntonioSanson]

You have to document in personal training? I don't know much about that.

[@user-hn9qg5qm3o]

I think you’re sending out a mixed story here regarding time. So if you spend 60% of your day treating patients and 40% documenting, yet most rehab companies want at least 85-90% productivity….well, I think you see where I’m going with this…somewhere in that math you’re technically committing a no-no too because we can’t have you on the clock and documenting for 40% of the time. That would only make you 60% productive and that’s not good.

[@johnlongdong2231]

A noble profession, and much needed. But seems boring as hell! Spending 45 minutes trying to get grandma to raise her arm or lift her leg, and then writing pages of notes about it!...No thanks, but glad there are those who do this.