Anvil Paladin "Aegis is truly death and done with"

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

The Paladin will be great, until CIG needs a new hotness.

[@zantrag]

All of the undefined, unused space seems wasteful, but we really don't know until the ship is finished. At which point, it's too late. ;)

[@Lintary]

Yeah, though these days concepts are a lot closer aligned with actual designs, they might very well already have a white or greybox of the ship.

[@Bladescorpion83]

That’s because they have artists making ships and not engineers or architects. Engineers and archives make good use of space.

[@ExtraWeirdable]

Actually, the ship being able to land with the turret on the bottom would help servicing the size 5 guns as the person swapping them out could reach them easier

[@Lintary]

Fair point indeed, or perhaps they can include a maintenance position where it stays on the aft part of the rail.

[@efritz7]

We vote with our wallets. If you want it- Melt for it. No new money if you're upset with the nerfing. I think folks would be crazy not to expect more capital ships from other brands especially Anvil, Crusader or RSI.. But we'll see.

[@Lintary]

RSI is the defacto capital building already as for Anvil I am sure they would like to, but capitals take a lot of game development resources to make so I think that if there will be any, it will be into the more distant future.

[@JonBergacs]

Anvil capital ship would be an instant buy for me

[@gorganhorn6872]

Lets call this ship what it really is. An Ultra Super Heavy Fighter.

[@predafrbdo5205]

It will be nerfed the f down when they'll want to sell another ship. That turret will be 4xsize 4, trust me it's just a matter of time

[@Bland-79]

CIG lost all their good people. The problem before was bad management of time and money. Now we can add quality also which is going down hill on everything. I'm thinking CIG lost a lot of senior developers when they made it a requirement to move to Britain. That seems to be when the quality started going down hill.

[@Lintary]

They lost some staff as not everyone wants to move, but others come in. Game design sees a lot of people movement period so nothing to worry about and from recent evidence I would say quality is going up and not down.

[@zantrag]

@@Lintary Well, look at the Polaris. Compare the colors, textures and quality to... say, the Zeus or Starlancer Max which look great.

[@Lintary]

@@zantrag To me the main thing the Polaris suffers from is business, to much going on. In general you want things smooth and simple, large sections you can drop in and weld, look at modern day naval ships.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Golgot did a video covering this issue. CIG has not only lost people, they have lost experienced people.

[@breezie336]

They said the degraded the redeemer because it killed to many ships... That is because there are 3 crew on it and they compared that to single player. That is not a fear comparison!!

[@COMMANDERHAWK22]

they said that about the corsair not the redeemer. the redeemer was opposed to be a "heavy gunship/heavy fighter hybrid" and it was acting outside its role.

[@platiuscyndar9017]

@@COMMANDERHAWK22 It was not acting outside it's role as a heavy gunship, which it indeed held. Not as a result of it's guns at least, that much is certain.

[@akastrak2235]

i join you on the paints, actually the stock one makes this ship nicer, matter of taste. I'm not a fighter but i'm in love with this ship !

[@breezie336]

Couldn't agree more about the layout of the cockpit. Landing will be so much easier!!! That why I bought the upgrade from my Hurricane!

[@Mace1000S]

The Paladin would be nice if it could hold 2 to 8 SCU of cargo and or put a couple of Pulses in it.

[@Lintary]

I am sure people will put bikes into it if they fit, planned to or not.

[@mathistemple7478]

I’m surprised it doesn’t have a drone room.

[@k0mm4nd3r_k3n]

As a refueler I'm going to get much more repeat business from Paladins than from Redeemers. They are different, and that's a good thing.

[@Lintary]

I do hope refueling becomes something actually of frequent use for ships for which it makes sense like smaller fighters and the likes. I think they need to reconsider how we can currently refuel at any pad, but why would a mining outpost go through the expense of providing fuel services? Does not make a lot of logical sense.

[@mikebarron8702]

I'm done buying ships after all these years. Like a lot of Citizens I have more ships then I know what to do with now. I will buy in game. I do love this design but will be nurfed like every sale ever. The ship will come out as overkill then be nurfed into oblivion, rinse repeat to over 754 million. Love the concept Love the game, but enough money spent on ships. Sometimes they don't even come out as pitched eg BMM looks totally different then original concept. Just my 2 cents.

[@Lintary]

I know a lot of people are keeping their wallets sealed at this point and I do not blame anyone for doing so. Reballancing of ships will always continue and is something to keep in mind for sure, as for concepts and matching what comes out this is a well known issue with old concepts, the new ones are build with proper design specs and limitations from day 1 so they match a lot better.

[@RainOfFodderco]

I'm not buying this ship cause I don't want to reinforce Redeemer nerfing behavior. Also it looks silly. The internals seem a lot more thought out than the redeemer putting 10 people (dropseats} up a ladder, but that's more something that needs to be solved about how moronic the layout of the redeemer internals are than any good thing about this ship. Also, 1 turret that's silly more powerful than the rest is bad game design. What a half thought about ship design.

[@artsolano6762]

I am happy to see Aegis going down . I’ve been backing this game for 10 years and for many years the forums were full of Aegis fanboys. Aegis used to have all the best ships. The best fighter for a long time was the Sabre, then it went to the Gladius. Vanguard has been the best heavy long range fighter. The Avenger remains the best starter.

[@BritishEcho]

It will happen to Anvil now. They have way too many good ships that will get nerfed to hell to fall in line with the other manufacturers. Drake will then probably be next.

[@artsolano6762]

@ Drake has never dominated like Aegis has. The Cutlass after a horrible beginning became consistently good. The buccaneer has been horrible for most of its existence. The Corsair just got a nerf. Right now the hotness seems to be RSI and Anvil. Unlike Aegis, Anvil is still with out a cap ship. RSI still doesn’t have a fighter to go up against the gladius or Hornet. Looks like RSI now can compete against the Idris with the Polaris

[@luistigerfox]

@@artsolano6762 I'd love to see what an Anvil light or heavy frigate would look like. In between the Polaris and Idris size wise maybe. I rather like the design language of anvil ships overall, and would like to see.

[@AutumnCorvidae]

Still no interceptor tuned Anvil fighters.

[@luistigerfox]

Gimmie interceptor and scouting variant Arrows, plz.

[@xm153088]

I'm betting the Redeemer will revert back to most of it's former self after the Paladin hype dulls.

[@Lintary]

I expect those size 5s to return, the only issue it had was that its shields where just stupidly overtuned and that needed adjusting.

[@alwayssearching4760]

Whew people are pissed. Redeemer and Corsair nerf then this shows up. Making alot of people wake up

[@Lintary]

Always happens, this move is about as old as micro transactions are in games now, or even expansions they will make sure the new stuff is better so people will buy. Sure sucks and one has every right to pass on these ships because of that. In the end though that is why I like to look at the design of a ship to, beside the components.

[@ozramblue117]

So, when will RSI sue Anvil over theft of its proprietary turret design? That there’s an oversized refit of the scorpius’ turret. 😅. Does look good but frankly should have been an rsi ship.

[@CMDR_Hat_TV]

Deemer bad, Paladin good

[@CMDR_Hat_TV]

watching deemer fans whine about this is wildly funny to me, the deemer should have never been added

[@platiuscyndar9017]

@@CMDR_Hat_TV lmfao, actually worst take on the issue Literally any complaint you could possibly have about the Redeemer the Paladin does it worse.

[@WildAce001]

Redeemer wasn't nerfed it was just rebalanced to fit it's role of a fast and agile troop deployment gunship. It fits it's role better now. So the paladin and redeemer fill different gunship roles, Paladin is more of a brute and better at being an anti gunship/large, gunship. And the redeeme is a better anti fighter fast attack gunship.

[@Lintary]

Not sure I agree there, but could also be true. I think time will tell once they give the redeemer another workover in the future as it does need some.

[@Bland-79]

Still no black paint for the Carrack.

[@Lintary]

Will come when they need some extra cash ;)

[@CatalystDestiny]

The redeemer desperately needs buffs now with this. They need to up the pilot S3 to S4, the top turret back up to S5, and replace the rear remote turret with a PDC. Alongside this it needs much more hull HP than it has now. This would at least make it less garbage now than it has been nerfed too and certainly the second the paladin goes flyable.

[@Mace1000S]

The Redeemer…. Take the rear gun size 3s and the two size 3s for the pilot and make them all size 4s, the Redeemer would then have 5 sets yup 10 size 4s. The pilot would control 4 size 4s, and 3 gunners would run the other 6 size 4s. With its handling being more nimble I bet it would be a lot of fun.

[@drunit8122]

Hurricanes big brother hooked on roids

[@ArtemisTGM]

Your right about the Jumpseats 5-6 would make sense and if there no cargo then why not throw in seats 💺

[@anubitus]

I respectfully disagree with the title of the video... As long as none of the other manufacturers have any respectable (capital) ships to replace the Hammerhead, Idris or Javelin, Aegis will be king. Perhaps the Paladin will be a small threat to the position of the Hammerhead but i dont realy think so, it does not have enough weapons. The only ship it might actually replace is the Redeemer, but only because CIG had to force it by nerfing the crap out of the Redeemer. Knowing that they will nerf the Paladin in the future, by either turning the 4 S5's into S4's or removing 2 of the 4 S5's, to force room for another next shiny ship, even this will only be temperary.

[@Lintary]

The redeemer was overturned shield wise alone, but the devs didn't really understand this and went to hard on the nerf bat. I would not be surprised to see the size 5s returned on the redeemer. As for the capitals this is pretty much Aegis and RSI indeed and likely will remain so purely as they take a ton of resources to design and build (as in real world game development resources).

[@joshm3484]

Even fully crewed I'm confident I could take it in either my Titan or Vanguard, but how often is a ship fully crewed? We all want to fly after all.

[@thatravendude]

You are joking with the Titan right? It's an OK ship but not exactly a great fighter...

[@joshm3484]

@@thatravendude I'd give it a shot. Mostly because those are the only Aegis ships I own.