Any melody can be awesome with the right chords and rhythm... as far as I can tell. It's a theory I'll always be testing, and I hope you test it too! My Patreon - / benlevin My Music - www.BenLevinGro... www.BentKneeMus...
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@michaeloliverio70196 жыл бұрын
I love how this method takes the pressure off the composer to create a new melody. The music already exists, it just needs to be understood and contextualised.
@punksterbass6 жыл бұрын
"I'm just not that happy" #relatable
@fleshman4joe6 жыл бұрын
same hahahaha *sobs*
@arthurmee5 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@PaulDavids6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@BenLevin6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, I really like your song in pi!
@isheetfromaswhole36576 жыл бұрын
Paul Davids Mundane, Moonlight sonata, and a begining idea. Aka...boring. Moonlight sonata is not boring but this aping is because it represents a starting point. Why did he not finish the piece? I will assume the reason. BORING!!!!!!
@isheetfromaswhole36576 жыл бұрын
gooby pls you think these two individuals are geniuses? Hahahaha!!!!! Thankyou for the laugh!!!! You do not listen to classical or you are very, very casual with using genius as a compliment!!!!!
@ShortMan_123 Жыл бұрын
@@isheetfromaswhole3657excuse me?..
@GuyNamedSean6 жыл бұрын
The end result to me feels like I’m finding my way out of a dense storm on the seas. I’m not safe yet, but I can see the sunlight beginning to peak out.
@ajadrew6 жыл бұрын
You've explained it so effectively with your end result sounding gorgeous...
@epiczeven63786 жыл бұрын
Wow... That was amazing. Inspiring video, you turned a weird ass melody to a beautiful piece.
@Oweng400006 жыл бұрын
You’re like music bob Ross
@marhobane30404 жыл бұрын
In the body of a very tired Frank Zappa.
@savourymilkman81472 жыл бұрын
A Jewish frank zappa
@JimDooley6 жыл бұрын
Damnit. I'm trying to get some work done, but I can't pass this video up. Any melody? really? I have to watch.
@cameodamaneo5 жыл бұрын
What was your conclusion from this video?
@jasonsteves7345 жыл бұрын
+1
@fryingwiththeantidote24865 жыл бұрын
you weak fuck, you would’ve known this already if u payed attention while u were in shoenberg class at primary school. dickweed.
@fryingwiththeantidote24865 жыл бұрын
I didnt watch this video btw, cus i took notes in shoenberg class, i just sensed some dumb shit from this corner of the internet.
@thecactus79505 жыл бұрын
@@fryingwiththeantidote2486 Schoenberg class in primary school?
@Nyuu36 жыл бұрын
Whoa. I wasn't even that sceptical in the first place, but the finished product was still FAR above my expectations.
@EclecticSceptic4 жыл бұрын
Yeah same, turned out really well. Could be a song in its own right.
@FernieCanto6 жыл бұрын
You can take a 12 tone row and make it "beautiful" through tonality. Or you can see the 12 tone row as beautiful for what it is.
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
wolzly1 Can you justify your statement?
@wolzly16 жыл бұрын
Can you discredit it?
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
wolzly1 Sort of. I think a 12-tone-row can indeed be a beauty of its own, since even a sequence of notes or some intervals can create emotion. And if something is emotional, it can be considered beautiful, scary, sad - you name it. Beauty has nothing to do with the complexity and/or origin of a piece. Sure, a c#-minor impromptú can be beautiful, just as beautiful as Ligeti's Lux Aeterna - or Arvo Pärt's Credo? The point I am trying to make here is that judging modern compositional techniques to be "hipster bullshit" is just as stupid as calling classical pieces outdated and old-fashioned. A proper musician should altercate each and every style and genre of music and - even if he dislikes it - at the very least appreciate the effort and the intention of the composer. My opinion.
@wolzly16 жыл бұрын
I said post-modernist for a reason, not hipster. And I didn't say bullshit though you can stretch my use of language into more inflammatory regions if that helps you make your argument (I don't think it does). You are making my argument while you try to oppose it: "at the very least appreciate the effort and the intention of the composer". I do. 12 randomly chosen (or nature-inspired, or whatever) tones does not constitute intent.
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
wolzly1 I did not quote you, but bring up a general opinion that seems to refuse anything post-classical or consider it unintentional and what not. And according to your comment you also represent that opinion - correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know though why a twelve tone row should be unintentional. For one, the notes are arranged according to strict rules. And other than that, there are certainly reasons why composers pick certain notes over others. Sure, some chose to pick them randomly, but try to get a twelve tone row to actually sound melodic and *beautiful*! It actually takes a lot of effort, understanding and intention. So there's that...
@zachgalsky6 жыл бұрын
Imagine going in for a colonoscopy only to have the honor of Dr. Ben Levin showing up
@jackpepperpwb6 жыл бұрын
Wha- er... no, no thank you.
@yonisemel69336 жыл бұрын
#relatablw
@MawcDrums6 жыл бұрын
And he introduces himself as "Fake Dr. Levin" and lets you know that it's Wanky Wednesday.
@BenLevin6 жыл бұрын
We can make that happen!
@tjprosper77043 жыл бұрын
@@BenLevin Legend
@AimeeNolte6 жыл бұрын
What a great idea and so well-executed! Maybe someday we can take your crusty music ears and pair them with my ginormous ones and make a 24 tone row with microtones. 🤔😝
@BenLevin6 жыл бұрын
I'd be down to work with you anytime, Aimee!
@juanchis.investigadorsonoro5 жыл бұрын
@@BenLevin Aimee is everywhere. I'd love to mix whatever you work on. Since I have no music skill I sit on the other side of the desk. :)
@ThatViolaKid5 жыл бұрын
That would be so funnnnn
@jonathantruesdale17074 жыл бұрын
How many micro tones are there in a whole step?
@johnhetherton90054 жыл бұрын
@@jonathantruesdale1707 four, if you mean quartertones. like, there are two per semitone
@boarderking1336 жыл бұрын
That better be on the the next bent knee record. That was beautiful.
@gejugfeguug56236 жыл бұрын
For someone like me who was really against using atonal concepts such as 12 tone rows in music, this really opened my mind to the possibilities. I always thought 12 tone rows sounded bad because all of the atonal music i have checked out so far have been jarringly dissonant and basically unlistenable for me. This actually sounds tonal in the context of the chords that you chose, but more importantly it sounds really beautiful. I was skeptical that this would turn out good but im glad that you proved me wrong. Keep up the great work ben.
@ggauche34656 жыл бұрын
A listen to some late Stravinsky will cure that. e.g. Variations for Orchestra or Movements for Piano and Orchestra
@gejugfeguug56236 жыл бұрын
Graeme Gerrard thanks for the recommendations. Stravinsky is amazing.
@ggauche34656 жыл бұрын
Neo-classicism or serialism, he is an amazing composer and orchestrator.
@gejugfeguug56236 жыл бұрын
Graeme Gerrard i checked out those 2 pieces u recommended just now and yeah its not for me. Just sounded like insolent noise. I do love stravinsky though. The firebird is one of my favorite songs ever.
@ggauche34656 жыл бұрын
I would have described Mozart's 40th in the same way when I first heard it! I have listened to these and other late Stravinsky pieces a lot over the past 50 years. To me they are breathtaking. We're all different.
@Anatolat6 жыл бұрын
I used to use exactly these techniques in my compositions. Some weird things to try in addition: -use functional harmony for your chord progression. The contrast between atonal melody and tonal harmony can be so unexpected -use the 12-tone row as a bass line, and explore different chord qualities. The odd root motion can have surprising effects - for added limitation, take two 12-tone rows (maybe one is a retrograde, inversion, or retrograde inversion of the other - avoid strict transposition, though). Put one as melody, and the other as root motion. Try to find some chord qualities that work
@matcoddy60975 жыл бұрын
also Imitation, etc.,
@jobiy19996 жыл бұрын
I watched a video interview of Jacob Collier recently. In it he theorizes that the harmony of chords can be anything as long as each note has good motion. This video reminded me of that video :)
@arceom076 жыл бұрын
this thing sounds like my homeboy Debussy
@creatief_met_kaas6 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing :O
@MisterDoctorBaconman6 жыл бұрын
The techniques and methods he played with were in a similar vein, just not quite as abrasive as a 12tr (for the most part)
@matcoddy60975 жыл бұрын
I've always found Debussy's music hard to follow when analyzing it, etc., but pleasant to listen to.
@beng26175 жыл бұрын
uhh not really?
@seanmolloy92973 жыл бұрын
A Debussy fern, sitting beside a dark Satie.
@normantepeltu6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best composition tools I've ever had explained. Can't wait to try it out!
@noveltyaccount114 жыл бұрын
whenever i am working with a melody that frustrates me, i revisit this video. cannot express how much this has helped me.
@armadaparade25036 жыл бұрын
This is the best education on harmony I think I've ever received. Thank you Ben.
@BenLevin6 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
@quizbrennan19396 жыл бұрын
Dude people like you are what brings music alive.
@attuneu15 күн бұрын
My current favourite video on music ever. Thankyou
@instrumentenfreak6 жыл бұрын
I just love lydian chords
@zachgalsky6 жыл бұрын
Very true
@cstubbssubs77466 жыл бұрын
how do ya play that
@bigPianist996 жыл бұрын
The most modern sounding voicing in my opinion. Beautiful!
@vmdp87905 жыл бұрын
instrumentenfreak Thelonius monk
@AlanNess6 жыл бұрын
This is inspiring for a music noob like me to hopefully create some magic in music in the future
@ABCD278146 жыл бұрын
Possibly one of the most beautiful things I have ever heard in my life. Genius. Ben you are incredible. Thank you.
@TheJimmyp4276 жыл бұрын
That last chord hits so hard
@paullim18434 жыл бұрын
Wow that constellation was truely a thing of beauty
@jonathanbain27222 жыл бұрын
Why ya gotta be so brilliant my guy? Thanks for sharing the good stuff doc
@daisyrushton15746 жыл бұрын
bloody hell that sounds incredible!
@ASclassical Жыл бұрын
This is the beauty of music, you went from having nothing to something unique and wonderful. And a very good practice to gain confidence and ability composing! Thanks
@notyetskeletal48096 жыл бұрын
I wrote the notes on paper, pu them in a ball, shook the ball, picked them out of a ball at random, stuck them to a page and made it work. It was a fun create your own jig saw puzzle. You decide what the picture looks like. I felt like once it was done I needed to turn it into a sprawling epic song so I wrote the chords down and spent my Sunday doing other things instead.
@ideitbawxproductions18802 жыл бұрын
I could never figure out how to get a 12-tone row to sound like anything other than chaos... this has definitely opened my eyes to the possibilities
@freudsbreakfast40603 жыл бұрын
This is phenomenally creative. Very satisfying and obscurely enlightening
@bundr5 жыл бұрын
The title didn't lie!! That was AWESOME!! Subscribed!!
@japas6 жыл бұрын
Your logic (as well as with the rhytmic indian singing thingy) has really expanded the way I compose. Thank you thank you thank you!!
@JamesJones-zt2yx6 жыл бұрын
How neat. It's a tone row, but not the sound I'd always associated with them. The way you used what in math they'd call a locally tonal neighborhood in the tone row is seriously cool!
@nuxapower4 жыл бұрын
I know this video is old but suddenly i wanted to harmonize a twelve tone row and this helped me out a lot! Thank you ben
@brandonmains89585 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so sick! Love the clash of art with music you do.
@exeromusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this epic demonstration
@cshirle36 жыл бұрын
1) Adam Neely sent me. 2) I love your Nickelodeon-style graphics. 3) Thanks for the beautiful music.
@ericgill50694 жыл бұрын
Ben, having recently discovered you via Samurai, I have been obsessively watching your videos and I just want to tell you that your ideas for practicing and writting music are the most intresting, useful, creative and inspiring thar I have ever seen/heard. I am a trained musician, and studied at Berklee, and in my opinion, your exercises aren't simply out of the box, they kick the box across the room and then smash it to oblivion. I want to thank you for sharing your incredle outlook and methods with the world.
@brandobin5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say you are hands down the best music educator I've found on the entirety of the internet. Every video knocks up my muse with new ideas thanks Ben!
@jungxophr90146 жыл бұрын
EVERY video I watch from you gets me to write a new song with an inspiring new perspective. You're a true muse, thank you. This piece is absolutely beautiful!
@yamashitacoversbyjulianroel Жыл бұрын
I wrote a song using this technique and it sounds completely different to all the other stuff I ever wrote. Thanks, Ben!
@nschul46 ай бұрын
Beautiful results at the end
@olic94614 жыл бұрын
Ben's crusty music ears are my hopes and aspirations
@rzk_audio5 жыл бұрын
God damn. You made strides in rpoving your thepry here. I didn't care for the original row on its own - but with the chords, it's absolutely beautiful
@adrian5b5 жыл бұрын
The result was mesmerizing… I love you, Ben.
@TheNormalUniverse Жыл бұрын
I loved the constellation metaphor
@neveratrivers6 жыл бұрын
Very good!! Simple and beautiful.
@fudgesauce6 жыл бұрын
Doh! A missed opportunity. Ben, I was hoping you were going to invite your musically talented subscribers to take the same tone row you selected and have them submit their own treatments of it.
@jarodnewman55356 жыл бұрын
Just do it anyway!
@threenplustwo91056 жыл бұрын
Do it with a different row
@threenplustwo91056 жыл бұрын
Just clarifying, I meant that Ben Levin should challenge his subscribers (or anyone that stumbles on the video, for that matter) to harmonise a 12-tone row.
@Misa_Susaki6 жыл бұрын
I mean, he did. At the end. No submissions or prize, just go out there and experiment for yourself!
@camerontetz20116 жыл бұрын
Would have been better with a game attached to it. People like games.
@ajibanezharvey3 жыл бұрын
I love this video and I use the same technique in some compositions of my own, I was really excited to see you do it this way as well. I also like the Ron jarzombec 3, 4 note diminished chords idea too, he has a great video on this well. It sounds awesome in Blotted Science!!
@elistewart86654 жыл бұрын
wow this is just beautiful
@frooshante6 жыл бұрын
wonderfully done, Mr. Levin. i think i speak for a great lot of us when i say we'd enjoy a piece that develops this melody even further! with real strings!
@lordapophis935 жыл бұрын
Ben, I love your videos because I feel like I relate to your personality and I love it that. Makes it easier for me to put myself out there too.
@matthewlind31025 жыл бұрын
It's like engineering a song. This makes sense to my brain
@RohannvanRensburg6 жыл бұрын
I've seen like two of your videos and I auto-hit like on this one as soon as I opened it. You've provided me with more creative inspiration in ~15 mins than many channels have in months.
@christopherspoelstra10966 жыл бұрын
The way you create music is absolutely inspiring!
@Joshua-sp1kd3 жыл бұрын
I just had this realization yesterday :’)
@mikeleffler6051 Жыл бұрын
Super inspiring! I bet one could determine "a key" that this piece is in. Probably could be interpreted to be in various keys. Part of me likes the freedom of not needing to define it to a key. Another part of me thinks it could be useful for certain purposes, like for remembering the piece and playing it again. Maybe also for connecting with each chord in the key which could support general musicality.
@pattocetamol6 жыл бұрын
Great video dude. Really inspired me to try this out. Great choice of chords
@scottkunghadrengsen26043 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. For years I have been looking for a harmonic practice similar to my melodic one(Raga de Jour)where I make up a scale based on the intervals that feel best to me that day. I love how the melody here is a given and the harmony is given the weight of expressing the spontaneous inner landscape, thanks..
@danielrc146 жыл бұрын
The result was actually fucking beautiful.
@dclarkmusic6 жыл бұрын
You ought to make this a full track! Gorgeous.
@jacktraveller82906 жыл бұрын
this is perfect for something I'm writing that's a bit atonal that I've been stuck with the harmony for. Thanks Ben!
@martinjstephens6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! As you point out at the start, the rhythm is also super helpful as it adds a tonne of expression.
@jeremyy226 жыл бұрын
I love your lessons, and have been watching them for years now. I like this approach, but I would like to see how you would approach the same tone row, but with the strict rules of serialism being used for the harmonies too. Amazing lesson as always! Great inspiration!
@sunloveone4 жыл бұрын
Amazing... the end result was unexpectedly beautiful sounding!
@meatymatmart6 жыл бұрын
The exact type of inspiration I needed today. This channel has helped me for so long, thanks!
@Thomzbeta5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@crumb57566 жыл бұрын
I need to get onto this level of music theory. Wow, absolutely beautiful. I think Ben must have some good taste to boot
@opuitska5 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, mind blowing
@namanh85476 жыл бұрын
It sounds so beautiful .
@Setri1236 жыл бұрын
this is plain beauty
@WizardOfArc6 жыл бұрын
I've tried using rhythm as a way of making tone rows sound tonal... longer on chord/key tones and shorter on ones that didn't fit. Looks and sounds like your approach is much better.
@matcoddy60975 жыл бұрын
+Azi Crawford Schoenberg would do the opposite of you, trying to make it sound less tonal, by using SHORTER tones on notes that seemed to imply key/chords, etc.,
@nookers6 жыл бұрын
You make me happy, Ben. Just the words you use.
@raydolfmitler70495 жыл бұрын
Very, very cool lesson
@brunocatapluft4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the metaphor of the constellation!!!
@dorianclini5 жыл бұрын
The cat with the sideburns at 1:57 just killed me
@Batvolt6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! This was one of the most interesting videos I 've ever seen. You explained it easy to understand and I want to write a tone row boat that will chug down some paddle wheel world I've never heard before.
@thecosmicartist30604 жыл бұрын
this is a really cool video. very insightful to music theory
@themuffinman7516 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was awesome. Great stuff!
@IsothermeMusic5 жыл бұрын
Ben, that B #11 chord is gorgeous. Nice movement.
@sammiller98556 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, bro! I love it when chromatic melodies sound as beautiful as diatonic ones, which is what you have done.
@adamboof67696 жыл бұрын
You are such a genius dude!
@paulski73076 жыл бұрын
"Soul crushing beauty" 😂😂 You're amazing and I love what you made of that row. Like a more mature version of something off an early muse album. Keep it up man, great work!
@liquidamusica6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. That was really clarifying, I really needed to learn that specific kind of work process. Thanks a lot Ben! You're the man!
@henriquecastilho99416 жыл бұрын
you are awesome, Ben
@davidsimpson25606 жыл бұрын
That was hauntingly beautiful.
@calebneff57776 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that was one of the most moving pieces of music I’ve ever heard.
@AnujPoudel0176 жыл бұрын
Damn. Is it just my ear?? It gave me intense musical tensions. Well the tension thing had to happen, but it was just more than I expected. Nice one. Will try getting one piece done.
@Philrc6 жыл бұрын
I might have a go. You make all this stuff look easy...
@SamChaneyProductions6 жыл бұрын
I've been really digging into non-functional and pseudo-functional harmony recently and trying to figure out how to force myself to create a composition that employed it, and lo! This is the perfect exercise to release me from my functional harmony cage!
@BryanDenham6 жыл бұрын
I just have to tell you , i so much enjoy your videos. you inspire me to want to learn , its exciting when i make the smallest of progress , and your videos are a refreshing look at music theory, id love to have a one on one lesson with you.
@mezzafinook6 жыл бұрын
ben! thank you for all the wonderful lessons and your humilty for sharing all of your knowledge with us :)
@blackgemstone8016 жыл бұрын
Dude, you care! I haven't seen such passion in a while, great vid
@diegoherrera21392 жыл бұрын
this is fantastic, you´re fantastic
@vidsantoro6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you gave this away for free. Salute
@Bills_Place6 жыл бұрын
Stop reading my mind, Ben. A singer I work with recently gave me a vocal melody and asked me to come up with the chords to fit. I sent him a mostly major version, a dark minor one, and a jazz one that got way out there for the third option. Of course, we went with #4 which is totally different at a faster tempo, because there is no "wrong" when it's your own music. Great vid, and a stellar example that shows even the weirdest melody can find a home.