AOE 4 l Who Wins? l 100 Royal Knights vs 86 Imperial Guards

[@typingcat9196]

Seems like Juicy Chinese shares the same problem of being that kid in the playground. They just want to have everything in the game. Strongest gunpowder unit, check. Strongest archer variant, check. Strongest Knight variant, check. Strongest Crossbowman, check. Toughest siege, check. Ayubid has age up discounts? I need that too, but for every landmarks. England has farm discounts? I need that too, but for every non-military building. French has unit discounts? I need that too, but I don't need keep but only another landmark. HRE has improved Relic income? I need that too, just put it on the pagoda. I think it's harder to find any aspects of the game that Zhu Xi doesn't have any bonuses on.

[@spitezor]

AOE4 seems like it's tailored to sell to the chonky chonk market.

[@EdoardoPadovani]

Not to mention the dumb monks who somehow beat two horsemen despite costing 40 res less - and heal up after the fight.

[@tjember_ren1729]

@@EdoardoPadovani that self healing is the most infuriating shit ever. Like the monk beats the crap out of your horsemen and then just walks out of the fight healing all the way back up to full health!

[@johanlassen6448]

Correct. They need mega nerfs in the late game.

[@t0m0-09zxz]

No Handcannoner

[@Chevvyization]

Is it with Ming dynasty and toggle 20 % bonus from imperial landmark ?

[@Dryfter21]

Good testing brother, keep it up. Can you do Cataphracts vs Knights and Catas vs Imp guards?

[@johanlassen6448]

Catas win on population vs Knights, but lose if we factor cost. Imp Guards win both on pop and cost. No need to test.

[@GrabbaBeer]

@@johanlassen6448 no, nothing counters or beats cataphract

[@styless8666]

My knights disappointed me :(

[@Schnitzel2368]

With Mikro they would perform better.

[@johanlassen6448]

Yeah, because Zhu Xis legacy is OP bro.

[@WillieFungo]

Devs overload East Asian factions with too many units.

[@johnspartan8312]

100 knights vs 50 Imperial Guards would be fair cause Imp Guards are the stongest units in game.

[@ryderrr08]

100 vs 55 if you count the French discount from castle, or jeanne reduction

[@johanlassen6448]

Which is ridiculous. Zhu Xis legacy is not even supposed to be a cavalry faction and already get ridiculous bonuses like extra bolt on crossbows, aoe on bombards, aoe on spearmen, early palace guard, passive resources and shaolin monks.

[@johnspartan8312]

@@johanlassen6448 ikr everyone should spam this civ ez pz

[@davidt02]

Those French knights would have harassed the Zhuxi player all game and preventing him from getting to Imp Guard. A lot has to go wrong for you to allow the opponent get to 55 Imp Guards in the Imperial Age.

[@johanlassen6448]

@@davidt02 If your idea of balance is "win within the first 20 mins or lose the game" then you don't understand balance. All civs should be viable at all stages. Period.