Choosing Your 1st Warhammer Age of Sigmar Army

[@AoSCoach]

Let me know what advice you give new Age of Sigmar players on choosing their first army. Comment below 👇

[@herpadurpification]

Excuse my ignorance in case this video exists, but maybe a more tactical comparison? Such as what armies are more mele v range, lower points for larger quantity armies VS higher points for smaller quantity and their power comparison, movement speeds, abilities or advantages to each army, stuff like that?

[@davidbrayne8278]

Definitely just go with what calls to you, painting is so much easier when you actually want to paint the models not because you think you should.

[@AoSCoach]

Absolutely agree with that. It's tough work painting an army you're just not enjoying

[@Ortoreus]

First :), gonna hella share this with my peeps. Your content has helped me get 5 different people into AOS

[@AoSCoach]

I need an affiliate link 🤣. Glad the videos have been helpful mate and thanks for your ongoing support

[@ericanders520]

Best ‘how to pick a starter army’ I’ve seen, thanks for all the detail and for splitting it into different categories

[@AoSCoach]

That's very kind of you to say Eric. I've got some plans to do more videos like this soon

[@winterh46334]

Number one advice is: Choose what you think looks and feels best. Number two: Look at some tier list and maybe dont choose a tier 5 army, unless they are up for a rework/update. Its just not that fun to get stomped so often. But Aos balance is decent so with most armies you will be fine.

[@AoSCoach]

I agree with your points. If someone picks an army not doing well, on one hand I don’t want to talk them out of it but on the other hand i want them to enjoy the game and losing a lot without knowing why sucks

[@ninjasqurl4383]

Definitely go with what you love the look of. When starting into this hobby, I was talked out of Fyreslayers. I LOVE dwarves, their lore, their look. But I let some people at the store influence my purchases. I ended up with Stormcast (who I’ve grown to really like), but at the time playing a few games with unpainted plastic, I was discouraged. So they sat for almost two years before covid got me back into the hobby. I enjoy the SCE I have now. But looking back I wish I would’ve stuck with my “heart” and gotten what I originally gravitated towards.

[@AoSCoach]

I’m sure the Stormcast recommendations were with the best intentions but you’re right, sometimes we just have to say stuff it and go with what you love. I hope you’ve started your Fyreslayers

[@ninjasqurl4383]

@@AoSCoach after I finish the 2k of SCE you bet I am!

[@AoSCoach]

@@ninjasqurl4383 awesome... hopefully that happens soon.

[@probsthinkingaboutfood2982]

“Choose what your heart is telling you to choose” this is exactly why I have 2 half completed armies of flesh eaters and daughters of Khaine 😂

[@AoSCoach]

Sounds like you're half way there for 2 armies... not long and you'll have 2 complete ones

[@probsthinkingaboutfood2982]

@@AoSCoach true! I guess that is a good thing to come from my indecisiveness

[@jbriggsiv]

Great video. I always suggest a beginner's full game box. It has the rules laid out and simplified, has a couple of factions to demonstrate different skills, and gives you an idea of what you like before spending too much. I have one for AoS and for 40k as well. I don't play 3/4 of the factions I got, but used them as teaching tools. My kids learned AoS this way and decided to go KO and Seraphon. I prefer Chaos. But, since we have the Nighthaunt and SE models, we can still use them. The SE bolster their armies (especially magic for my son's KO army) and the Nighthaunt made their way into our Halloween decoration displays. They also make fun models for use with D&D and Pathfinder.

[@AoSCoach]

You've nailed it on the head Lone Bunny. They might not feature your favourite army but they are great tools for learning the game

[@bibob45]

Maggotkin of Nurgle, with a focus on daemons, is a great way to start playing both AoS and 40k at the same time

[@AoSCoach]

Really good point for anyone who wants to cross between systems

[@sitheclimber]

Would imagine Be'lakor would fit this bill too. Is he as totally insane (if he charges your unit/model pick it up) as in 40k?

[@eisberg5249]

I think Seraphon is a good army to start. They have two Start Collecting boxes and one Broken Realm box. They are easy to paint with Contrast paints. And at the moment they are pretty strong.

[@AoSCoach]

Seraphon are a GREAT painting army. Probably a little complicated to start with... but that’s easy to overcome because they are doing well in the meta. It does put unwanted pressure on someone getting started though

[@fumarc4501]

I started with Underworlds by getting Thundrik’s Profiteers and Zarbag’s Gitz. So far I like painting the Gitz a lot, but I live the Kharadron aesthetics. Now I’m eying those recently announced Aether-Runners box set.

[@AoSCoach]

The new Broken Realms boxes are incredible value. I picked up two of the Seraphon dinosaur boxes.... jump on before they sell out.

[@fumarc4501]

@@AoSCoach Celestial Stampede is temporarily unavailable. Still have time to snag some Asther-Runners! Thx for the tip

[@TheToxicP]

I'd consider flexibility in play style. The vast majority of the Age of Sigmar armies only offers a 1-dimensional play style because the range is pathetic. This forces you to head into starting a second army from scratch (upfront expense and all). I would consider Stormcast, Seraphon, Free Cities and a couple of others armies as having a deep enough pool of units that you can change your play style and you can do so by slowly adding additional units (instead of purchasing an entire new 2,000 pt. army). Not saying you'll have multiple super competitive options, but just having the option will alleviate the boredom that sometimes happens with 1-dimensional armies. You can do the same by playing a 2nd or 3rd army, and this is something I also do (and I'm sure many people run multiple armies) but as a 1st army - having the ability to expand slowly is a nice option.

[@AoSCoach]

Really good call out. The armies you mentioned with a deep roster means you can change your army often.

[@minkikato]

Your delivery and tone oozes passion, great content! 👍🏻

[@AoSCoach]

That's very kind of you to say. Thanks Miniki

[@DW-to9il]

Rule of cool 100% I love my daughters of khaine which is typically described as expensive and difficult. I love the shrines and morathi so I dove in to find the water is great (and very bloody)! I have also started cities because I like the dragon, hydras, and arcanum wagons. Any army can win in this game as well because the battle plan and dice decide a lot of how the game will play. I love seeing how excited new players get over their armies as well. Don't worry about playing the same army as someone else either because your own unique paint style, lists, and play style will still make your army unique. These are all great suggestions regarding paint and price, but passion is so important. Hope you have fun with whatever you choose!

[@AoSCoach]

Couldn't agree more DW. I think the "don't worry about playing an army that someone else is playing" I missed... and after I published it I knew it. It's a good piece of advice

[@Rock-dp4to]

Great advice - Just starting and have decided to go with the rule of cool. Gonna give Lumineth Realm Lords a go. Love their look, although they may be more complicated to play due to all their magic. Just got my first box of Vanari Auralan Wardens. Can’t wait to start building and painting.

[@AoSCoach]

I'll admit that Lumineth are a little more complicated because of the amount of rules. Use AoS Reminders to get you up to speed and you'll have a ball

[@VerbenaComfrey]

Brand new to Wargaming as a whole, and super exicted for AoS.

[@UrbanBeatz9]

Excellent video, I'm sold. I was on the fence of getting into 40K or AoS. I'm definitely heading to my local store tomorrow and picking up a couple books tomorrow

[@AoSCoach]

Excited to have you in AoS mate. We're on the horizon for a new edition so hold off buying any battletomes or books, focus on models.

[@samwiseweezy7250]

Hears: Start Collecting Boxes have a collection of units that usually work well together quite well. Glares in Gloomspite Gitz JK, great vid and I am glad to have discovered this channel

[@AoSCoach]

There is a couple of Start Collecting boxes I don't rate like Gloomspite Gitz and Malignants... I even called it out in my Start Collecting Box video. Glad you found us mate

[@jamesmitchell2704]

Beast of Chaos should be everyone's first army. 1) Because if you can win with BoC you can win with anyone. 2) If you're already talking first army then your planning on a second which no matter what will feel like an upgrade! ;)

[@AoSCoach]

You make good points, however; if someone starting out doesn’t pick up a few wins you might seem then quit. Maybe save the awesomeness of BoC for army 2

[@jamesmitchell2704]

@@AoSCoach Ah, but to be forged in the fire of such awesomeness!

[@AoSCoach]

@@jamesmitchell2704 i can't disagree there.... I hope the Beasts rise again

[@jamesmitchell2704]

@@AoSCoach MBGFT! (Make Bullgors Great for the First Time)

[@AoSCoach]

@@jamesmitchell2704 make Cygors great

[@sq5833]

Awesome video! Thank you so much! I have recently decided to play cities of sigmar for completely subjective reasons and I couldn’t be more sure decided. If you are one of those rpg players (like me)that never decides on how to specialize your character (because mage, warrior or thief are all cool choices), I think cities of sigmar is THE army. Also my brother played imperials many years ago and I though that was supercool, so the nostalgia power hit me hard.

[@AoSCoach]

I absolutely love Cities so you’ve got a friend in me

[@sq5833]

@@AoSCoach 🤗

[@pnob69]

Great stuff and advice Coach! As someone that has only been in the hobby for a year and a half I would say plastic crack is real. It is a very addicting hobby, even just painting and listing to AoS Coach, other channels, or lore is great fun! My pile of shame has grown to more than I could paint in a couple of years time. My advice would be to try and control your gamer ADHD. There is so much cool stuff out there but finish one thing before you move onto the next. Do as I say not as I do :) PS I was proud of myself for not buying Cursed City when I had the chance 😂 Cheers!

[@dmeep]

Its not a pile of shame, its a tower of ambition and if i stop buying right now i might be able to scale it all before i expire from old age 60 years down the line.

[@pnob69]

@@dmeep hahaha true. I was using the pandemic as an excuse. Wasn’t sure if and when I’d be able to get the models!

[@AoSCoach]

Dmeep is 100% right, there is no shame, it’s a Pile of Potential. Great advice on starting slow... I want everything and it’s hard to contain

[@sodaaddict2225]

Over here with Cities of Sigmar as my first army. No regrets, but do not do as I have done!

[@Flirri]

But why not?

[@sodaaddict2225]

@@Flirri The model range and choices are absolutely massive and overwhelming for a new player. I'll walk it back a little bit and say "If you start with Cities, start with a plan," but that's difficult for newer players.

[@AoSCoach]

That’s why I had to make the 45 minute Cities of Sigmar synergy guide. It’s just a deep rabbit hole which can be overwhelming

[@sodaaddict2225]

@@AoSCoach and I appreciate the heck out of that guide! And all the city-specific guides. And after all that it's still such a deep rabbit hole that keeps getting deeper!

[@nightkids29]

Bret is my first

[@Delveintohobby]

Looking at all the great art in AoS is the way I arrived at my first army. I saw a depiction of the realm of shadow and immediately wanted to have an undead army from Ulgu. Bought a box of skeletons and later the Legions of Nagash tome. Now that's become Soulblight Gravelords and I think I now have my "main" army in AoS. A court of vampires and their necromancer lackeys leading a horde of skeletons, 100% my aesthetic

[@AoSCoach]

That sounds like an awesome army concept. I get the feeling we will start to hear more about Ulgu in the next 12-24 months through Malerion

[@Worldcat-hj1jo]

I just split the dominion box with my friend, it arrives in the mail today and i cant wait to start playing! I definitely love the orc dudes

[@AoSCoach]

Welcome to the hobby and I hope you both enjoy your new toys

[@josephskiles]

I knew since the 90's I would always some day make a night goblin army, I finally pulled the trigger last year having finally given up on WOTC permanently and spent all last year building my goblin hoard ( along with a respectable Night lords army, Sisters of battle, and small death army), I'm hoping I can start playing soon but even if not I've had nothing but an awesome time finally getting into the hobby and leaving D&D for the scavengers to pick over it's desecrated corpse

[@AoSCoach]

I do love my Grots so you're an ally of mine 🤣. I hope Da Bad Moon shines bright for you Joseph

[@josephskiles]

@@AoSCoach may Gork n Mork bless you with victory in your battles as well my friend! Hopefully we will see a new handbook soon!

[@banditdeluxe1310]

My issue is my heart tells me “get them ALL”

[@AoSCoach]

You're telling me. Like a kid in a candy store... just pick your favourite and go from there... then you're like me and eventually have 10 armies you rotate.

[@X.davidWilliams]

Huzzah,, i went with Gloomspite Gitz. 🎯 A diverse faction and great amount of variety of models. 🕷 I especially LOVE the Spiderfang range,, Creepy Crawlies that move swiftly over all terrain and have access to poison. What's not to LOVE. 🕸 Oh and on another note thank you for being you and making these videos, i doubt I'd be into this game without you or them. So I'll say "Huzzah!" once more. May you and yours have a great future.

[@AoSCoach]

Thanks David, this means a lot... and a Gitz player, someone near and dear to my heart. I'm taking my Gitz out for a spin this weekend actually

[@TheGCRust]

This video would have really helped me going forward. Especially the first part. Talked myself out of Lumineth at first, roamed from army to army. Spent a lot of money on models that didnt inspire and battletomes that didnt grab me. Finally hopped into Lumineth with the 2.0 release...should have done this from the start.

[@AoSCoach]

I’ve started armies which I never enjoyed or fully committed to too. It happens to all of us... and the new Lumineth is just wow

[@TheGCRust]

@@AoSCoach Indeed. The Bladelords, Loreseeker, and Lord Regent were the perfect trifecta to convince me to jump in. I've been loving every model so far. My poor half-assembled CoS models...ah well. Bits for the Bits Box. Materials for the kitbashing throne!

[@AoSCoach]

@@TheGCRust I'm waiting for the LRL FAQ before I drop any $$$ for my allies.

[@AoSCoach]

I’m very keen on Settlers Gain

[@TheGCRust]

@@AoSCoach I have to admit, I'm really glad to see Cities of Sigmar just getting dumped on (in a good way) with support from GW. I think part of my issue with the faction was the worry they were just a holding pattern army that'd be parced away like Legions of Nagash. But they've got new miniatures incoming and every Broken Realms Book seems to include a new city for them. At least with Settler's Gain the CoS minis I've got won't go entirely to waste in the future.

[@smokey5495]

Started with Maggotkin of Nurgle because I went from 40k to AoS. Thank god for the Vanguard box

[@AoSCoach]

Welcome to AoS. It’s always helpful when you can transfer models between systems

[@kodain]

More or less ran out of new models to buy in Infinity (got four armies), got two armies in Malifaux, got a full Team Yankee army, two and a half army in WarmaHordes, about 2K of Necrons. Needed to snort some plastic and assemble some glue, so got the Warcry Catacombs box, then I read that AoS had changed from the 1E catastrophe that I knew about. Looked up the rules and whatnot, saw the Daughters of Khaine. Sexy dark elf ladies? Check. Aggressive melee glass cannon force? Check. Got the Shadow & Pain box, along with starter for DoK and their battletome. Figured out a list, sort of. Six Witch Elf (I'm old, bite me) boxes, Morathi, and probably 2-3 more start collecting boxes to get the Hag Queens. Will order those end of this month. Currently busy assembling the Shadow & Pain box. Regardless of any army or character or whatever, I always go with what looks cool first, and then I look at playstyle. If those two add up, that's what I'm going for. That being said, I've always thought Skaven to be cool, but I'm not overly gung ho over the idea of building an army since they're a horde army. I have no qualms over dropping hundreds of EUR at once to get something I like, but I wouldn't recommend it for someone who is entirely new to the hobby. Buy a starter kit, and work from that piece by piece.

[@AoSCoach]

Great advice CL and apologies for the delayed response, KZbin only just surfaced the comment. Dip your toes into the water, see what you like, then drop the cash later

[@Wildwolface77]

Hello, good sir! ^_^ I just wanted to appreciate how you made this beautifully made video about this wonderful game for an aspiring player like me. Thank you, truly.... m(_ _)m Now... I'm currently in a playgroup that plays Warhammer 40k, and... since not many people play Age of Sigmar (even though the store itself had a bunch of both AoS and 40k, mind you!), I was hoping to start letting people know about this game - and I plan to start it all off, with a few of my fellow players getting interested in it. In any case, good sir, I was hoping that you'll make an updated version of this video, you see. My friends and I could learn as much as we can before commiting which factions we should go for just like watching a similar one for Warhammer 40k on KZbin. Also, an updated version of this same video will work wonders for newer players, too. :) Of course, me and my playgroup still need to finish our 40k armies first, but we'll DEFINITELY start AoS afterwards! Wish me luck...! Again, many thanks for posting this video and hope that there's an updated one in the future. May the Thousand Fortunes bless you! P.S. - Oh, yeah! I'm planning to play both Skaven and Slaves to Darkness as my first factions, no matter what anyone else has to say about it.... Currently debating what my third army would be.... ^_^ P.P.S. - Also just subscribed to your channel, too! :)

[@AoSCoach]

Thanks heaps Wild... and updating this video is definitely high on my priority list once we get through the new GHB. I've already started updating the content... I swear

[@josephskiles]

I agree with the Night haunts being easy to paint ( as far as the common battle lines and some hero's). I recently did both a new and old metal black coach and had a blast doing them and Lady Olynder. There is also a great little kit Gdubs sells with 3 glaive wraiths, a paint brush, and all the paints you need to do the basic night haunt paint scheme. Its the first time I actually followed the paint instructions and the ended up looking fairly decent. Mostly try to avoid anything with too much white if your a novice ( yellow and pinkish flesh colors can also be problematic as well) as the pigments just never seem to work like other paints I feel. The easiest models Gdubs puts out to paint are the fell water Trogs I feel. Use plague bearer flesh contrast paint for the skin over a zenithal prime job and you get a great looking model every time.

[@AoSCoach]

Great tips. Yellow is a really hard colour to do... so great pick up. The trick I find is using a brown base then building up my yellow

[@josephskiles]

@@AoSCoach great advice!

[@Noxims47314]

A wise investment is destruction faction-wide, it is their time in the spotlight, a fun investment is picking your army because of aesthetic, identity, story and overall influence on your imagination. do mind their rules and gameplay though.... and a tactical investment is picking Stormcast because it will consistantly be supported.

[@AoSCoach]

100% agree. Pick your army because of the aesthetic because you'll need to enjoy painting and building them.

[@bcgamer55]

Definitely just go with what you like and don't worry about other stuff. I really digged Bonereapers then heard all the drama about how OP they were so decided to go with Seraphon for the cool dinos (plus the LGS had a start collecting in stock) and now everyone goes on about Seraphon being OP. Can't win!

[@AoSCoach]

You're 100% right. Go with what you like... armies will change in their power level over time.

[@MazariPL]

Thought about Nighthaunt in 2019 when I started. But most players locally played death, so was a no no. Bought Khorne starter box, skarbrand etc, but haven't really played it too much. Finally decided on OBR as I liked the looks and they also seemed relatively fast to paint. Playing them a lot. Next will be Be'lakor and Chaos Daemons First Prince :) Easy to paint, lots of options, and maybe they become decent. For OBR got Nagash (to be assembled), Katakros (almost painted to daresay quite high standard), 40 mortek (all done, at least tabletop+ standard), 10 ponies, liege kavalos from new box waiting to be assembled and painted:)

[@AoSCoach]

OBR is definitely another good army to start with and easy to paint. You’ll have a ball painting Nagash... I’d recommend not building him completely and painting him in parts. Research “sub-assembly” if you’re not familar with what I’ve said

[@MazariPL]

@@AoSCoach That's the plan :) right now need to finish this guy still instagram.com/p/CNiC3Obnc9-/?igshid=lddsbd4f8dq8

[@grimmhammerfist5174]

Another kick ass video!!! Thanks Coach

[@AoSCoach]

Pleasure... thanks for the comments and support. It makes a difference

[@grimmhammerfist5174]

Can't wait for the new FEC video

[@AoSCoach]

Just made up the slides last night. I’m looking forward to hearing from JP

[@grimmhammerfist5174]

@@AoSCoach Cool

[@Curran_Kleen_Brown]

Oooh great video. Gonna be sharing this along to some friends

[@AoSCoach]

Cheers mate... greatly appreciated!

[@txta786]

Nice. As much as I like seeing fielded death armies (super cool looking), I would not recommend armies that are fragile with a bunch of spikey bits. Sucks to pay good money for a model only to have it break during assembly or painting. Newer people getting into the hobby might have a harder time with such models. Also look for deals locally not just online. I picked up an old battleforce from like 2 Christmas ago for $133 on sale. often you'll find those hard to find items or limited prints in store for a lot less than what they go for on sites like Ebay. But most important pick what looks cool. And if you still have a hard time deciding, delve into the lore first. I'm sure you'll connect with something after that.

[@AoSCoach]

Really good points here Orbs. Some of the models can be quiet fragile and I can imagine the disappointment of your first army breaking.

[@JuanCD135]

Nice video, Cheers. Subscribed

[@AoSCoach]

🙏cheers mate! Hope you enjoy the rest of the content on the channel

[@tecgoblin]

I'm not convinced of Stormcast as starting army. A big part of their range (and particularly some of their most good looking models) is very subpar, and they're quite hard to play, with some combos not being very obvious. That said, they have a very satisfying depth and you can always find a colour scheme to your liking. Nighthaunt can be very boring to paint by glazing/layering, but they're so much easier with drybrushing and air brushing. Airbrush is not very newbie friendly, but it is trully transformative as an experience for an army like Nighthaunt.

[@AoSCoach]

I can see your points on Stormcast & Nighthaunt. A newer player is unlikely to be getting under the hood with combos and synergies and at its barest bones, they are simple and easy to paint and play. Once you start getting into combos.. totally with you.

[@tecgoblin]

@@AoSCoach Indeed. I suppose it depends with whom you play and with what you start. If you start like me with War of Souls and you play between friends with these two armies those two armies are good to start (and Sequitors are the best battleline for Sigmar). If you play against stronger armies though, you might be dismayed: "how do I beat kharadron?" for example. Now thankfully those people playing the stronger armies might be sufficiently familiar with Stormcast to give you tips: (ex: adding a Vexillor can make units coming from Azyr much more reliable and scary).

[@bogdanb9864]

awesome video! Thanks Coach!

[@AoSCoach]

My please Bogdan

[@fy8798]

Cities is best to start with, because you can cobble together random old kits from the flea market and still end up with a working force!

[@AoSCoach]

Cities can be very cost effective from the second hand market. A new person might struggle to strip the paint early in their hobby journey. Good shout though

[@lloydjamieson2143]

Amazing great started video. Got me thinking about nurgle now. 🤔

[@AoSCoach]

You won't be disappointed with Nurgle. They're a great army

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

Hi! I am absolutely horrified by the rumors about Age of Sigmar 3.0 "limited edition" starter - "Indomitus style".You understand that the word "limited edition" means "you have to buy or you will regret later."It's even worse if there are really good green ORKZ or the Hobgoblin Khanate. It’s easier for me to die right away.In any way, supporting Age of Sigamar is really good and Heroin Deed.The problem is that Indomitus severely breach my hobby budget this year and for Age of Sigmar I won't be able to buy Soul Wars, so I had to limit myself to Tempest of Souls. I still need Direchasm and the Cursed City, but I hoped to postpone this until next year.

[@AoSCoach]

We'll just have to handle the AoS 3 starter box whenever it drops. I'm hoping they've learnt their lesson from Indomitus... yes, Cursed City sold out very quickly but I wonder if it has to do with holding inventory for AoS 3.

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

@@AoSCoach Thank you! There will be so many interesting things. If I don’t buy it, it’s nice to see. To buy, however, is better, miniatures are always treasures.

[@herpadurpification]

The video is just as great as your beard. This helped me a lot, thank you!

[@AoSCoach]

🧔‍♂️with complements like this i really do need to start OnlyFans

[@herpadurpification]

@@AoSCoach 😂 😂😂

[@dmeep]

I am always concerned when people recommend cities of sigmar to starting players as im still not convinced they are not the florida faction with every BR letting old WHFB player ally in a new AoS faction so they naturally transition into a faction that will get new sculpts when cities slide into legends. the witchhunters are the first new sculpts for the cities faction since end times and we havent seen if they are a cursed city expansion or not. Aethercast had the idea that cities might get split up and woodelves go to the kernoth destruction faction and/or sylvaneth, empire sculpts join the ayesir cult church of sigmar and dwarves join the fyreslayers and possibly KO. Looking at you LoN. Also what kind of guide is this? not a word about my system of purchasing an army and while painting it up getting a cool idea and buying another one and painting a few models of each army until abandoning one of the projects for the next new idea. Ill have you know this have led to me having multiple armies in each grand alliance before getting anything to the table and its a great system.

[@AoSCoach]

I wouldn’t normally recommend starting Cities to a new player for a number of reasons. You can’t deny it’s large roster to choose from so when it came to longevity they had to be in there. As for Cities future, I guess it depends which direction GW want to take them. Is Cities just a home for their old fantasy battle range and new cities will open up in the future... or will they expand the range back out to something like the older factions. It’a hard to say. We have some new sculpts from Cursed City but nothing from Underworlds

[@Zand3rParkour]

I wouldn't necessarily say Maggotkin are simple to learn due to how fractured their rules are, between the Battletome, Wrath of the Everchosen for subfactions, and the warscroll updates from BR Teclis (which are freely available elsewhere but a new player isn't going to know that). And that's not to mention including Skaven Pestilens and Slaves to Darkness. A new player needs to be able to access all of their rules in one place.

[@AoSCoach]

At the core of Nurgle the rules are simpler than other armies, however; right now their rules are spread across a bunch of books. That was true of Daughters of Khaine too and it was quickly wrapped back together with a new tome... surely an updated book can't be far away.

[@Zand3rParkour]

@@AoSCoach We can certainly hope so

[@TheZergSwarm]

As someone looking at starting AoS, would you recommend buying Soul Wars now, or waiting for the rumored new core set this summer? I'd rather not pay $60 for an outdated book.

[@AoSCoach]

I would 100% hold. I’d love you to start the hobby and if there is an army you’d like to start.. perhaps grab a unit... or even something to practice on until a rumoured new box. It’s almost 3 years so it’s more of a WHEN rather than IF

[@TheZergSwarm]

@@AoSCoach perfect, just what I wanted to know. I picked up some Seraphon for now, excited for the new Kroak model. Also picked up Blood Bowl Season 2 so as to hold me and my buddy over

[@AoSCoach]

Sweet 🤘. I’m picking up the new Stegadon box tomorrow for preorder. Should be a wild Dino ride

[@TheZergSwarm]

@@AoSCoach I'm starting with warriors to ease myself into painting. I'd love to grab that new Stegadon box, but they would remain grey until I worked up the courage to paint them lol

[@capefury8731]

Ooooo the bait! Calling a Chess knight a hoarse. Hersey!! Lol

[@AoSCoach]

I think you’re the first fish I caught with that bait

[@capefury8731]

@@AoSCoach 😂

[@CJVMPD]

Rule of cool 😎

[@AoSCoach]

Rule of Cool baby 🥸. Go with what you love

[@Ulfhednir9]

I'm just started a Legion of Azgorh. Because of the rule of cool and free rule book.

[@AoSCoach]

...and you like living on the edge. Nice one picking up the Chaos Dwarves

[@Ulfhednir9]

@@AoSCoach also got 1000pts of models for free :)

[@AoSCoach]

@@Ulfhednir9 DAMN!

[@onionhat745]

I don't know if I'd suggest Maggotkin as a good army for beginners. Nurgle's summoning mechanics are currently the most complicated out of all the Chaos Gods, and his reliance on Gnarlmaws for movement shenanigans is tricky to grasp. I'd suggest Mawtribes instead.

[@AoSCoach]

All armies are complicated when you look at all of the options available, however; at their core Nurgle is a durable force that's forgiving to mistake. If I remember correctly I suggested them for their painting because you can cover up mistakes easy

[@vitogunnhilder]

The day Sylvaneth get strong is the day my Ossiarchs get Mortek Guard with Bows.

[@AoSCoach]

I was around when Sylvaneth was dominating the meta and causing real headaches. It's day will return

[@vitogunnhilder]

@@AoSCoach Wait, so the legends were true?! Dang

[@AoSCoach]

@@vitogunnhilder Yeah mate... they were crazy strong and sometimes annoying with flooding of wyldwoods.

[@Verza488]

this is a great vid man but you certainly need a better mic

[@AoSCoach]

My mic is fine I have a Blue Yeti Blackout, however; I noticed that the usb cord was on the out and has since been replaced. Glad you still enjoyed the video 🤘

[@DavidOtto82]

I love the Sylvanteh Models, but the fact that there is wood everywhere on those models kills my creativity.

[@AoSCoach]

Perhaps you can modify it to be something more aligned to your vision... some other type of element with your painting?

[@ImpetusM]

Are flesh eater courts capable of being led by Mannfred? This probably sounds dumb, but Im entirely new wanting to start an Army led by Mannfred (hearing he was resurrected for AoS)

[@AoSCoach]

In your own stories, abolsutely. According to the game play and game lore… no. There is a Carrion King who leads the Flesh Eater Courts and Manfred looks after his own legion of the night

[@ImpetusM]

@@AoSCoach Ahh okay, I see. I think I'll have a look into this "Legion of The Night" and try and build my army around it. I appreciate it!

[@piotrjeske4599]

What do you do if you don't like to paint?

[@AoSCoach]

Hire someone to paint for you, or use contrast paint for a quick result for minimum effort

[@ssvishnov]

Can someone familiar with the lore help me out with something? How come Vlad, Konrad, and Isabella von Carstein are not in Aos?

[@AoSCoach]

They all died in transition from Warhammer Fantasy battles via The End Times

[@Nobleshield]

I totally agree with a lot being play what you like the look of, but something does have to be said about viability. A new player shouldn't concern themselves with the global meta, of course, but nobody wants to pick an army they like and find out they are super weak and will get crushed even in casual games. If you play in a more competitive meta it's definitely something to give thought to but even in a casual one the power level of an army is an important, albeit tertiary, thing to consider.

[@AoSCoach]

You’re absolutely right. If someone is interested in say Sylanvaneth, we should advice them and help them as much as we can... but if they’re heart is set on that army, we shouldn’t talk them out of it.

[@SomeKrieger]

I got curious about the (what I’m assuming) Sigmar equivalents of space marines so I tried looking them up and instead found out flagellants cut out their fucking tongues.

[@AoSCoach]

Gotta love those flagellants... which is why I own 140 of the crazies

[@nightkids29]

I think fryslayer is a decent pick

[@AoSCoach]

Fyreslayers definitely fit the mould for a few of those categories.

[@onionhat745]

Great starter army! Excellent starter set too.

[@jackduncan5311]

I'm so stuck with this right now! Some call to me but have things that put me off. For example, I like Elven factions and I love the Lumineth lore but I hate the weird unbalanced Helmets! I love the death characters but I don't like their battle line models! I like Oruks generally but I don't like the sea of Yellow haha If I'm honest the storm cast call to me the most but it's such a cliché and I hear its not the best starting army! Help!

[@AoSCoach]

You don't have to do yellow Ironjawz... a quick Google search will bring out some incredible schemes with metallics, blacks, reds, and other colours. If you choose Lumineth you could always look to switch their heads with some alternatives

[@johncurry7246]

Who needs roster depth when you have Hearthguard Berzerkers?!

[@AoSCoach]

I mean it's true... but I imagine you might start find it hard to find games at your local store 🤣

[@johncurry7246]

@@AoSCoach I'm willing to take that chance, my Blades of Khorne was starting to struggle in my area before the pandemic hit.

[@kevinhuckl4093]

I love the way savage orruks Look but can you play them as an army by them self? And are they good? Thinking of starting playing age of sigmar. Greetings from Germany love your vids 😃

[@AoSCoach]

Thanks Kevin. You definitely can play Savage Orruks on their own, it would either be a Bonesplitterz army or Big Waagh.

[@voltron420420420]

If I have the grymwatch from underworlds will it work for AoS?

[@AoSCoach]

Absolutely . All of the Underworlds warbands have a home in an Age if Sigmar army. The Grymwatch fit into Flesh Eater Courts

[@gruulrules1426]

What do you think about SBGL? Its either them or lumineth for me but i just cant decide :/ Also, im new to painting so just because of that im already a bit scared of lumineth... they look gorgeous when painted right but for a beginner i imagine that it could get frustrating when they turn out bad

[@AoSCoach]

I’d suggest Soulblight first and perhaps Lumineth can be the next army. Soulblight is also food for newer players because you can also hide anything you don’t like on the model with blood :)

[@gruulrules1426]

@@AoSCoach thank you very much :) i guess Soulblight it is then ^^

[@JinxThe27]

playing maggotkin of nurgle is way harder then i thought. dont think i would say that they play easy. but yes they are forgiving

[@AoSCoach]

I went with the forgiving part of Nurgle. There is some solid advanced tech that you can also do, like Nighthaunt... but it's enough to get started and not get tabled early.

[@ImmortalDragon21]

Is FEC really that simple to play ? As a bit of an AOS rookie I stayed away from the because I thought they looked more medium to hard. I might have to look into a force of them with this knowledge.

[@AoSCoach]

At their core they run forward and fight. The roster isn't that deep and the support rules are generous in their range... plus they can summon which makes them more forgiving.

[@ImmortalDragon21]

@@AoSCoach thanks for that coach just about to watch your vid on them now, I was looking for a death army to play, I think I may have found it.

[@RestingBookFace]

Is this still reasonably accurate 6 months later?

[@AoSCoach]

I'll have to revisit it for 3e but to answer your immediate question: Yes it's still valid. The army points may have changed but the 4 focus areas remain true... Nighthaunt is a little harder to get into with Soulwars no longer being for sale unless you snag it at a games store.

[@jamiegoodwin7265]

This would be useful before I chose sylvaneth as my first ones to learn to paint lol

[@AoSCoach]

I don't remember if contrast was out when I recorded this but Sylvaneth has definitely become easier... if I didn't mention it

[@Zand3rParkour]

There's quite a bit of echo on this video. Not your usual audio quality.

[@AoSCoach]

I'm a little bit sick... it might just be the man flu making the sound off.

[@prairietan]

Should I hold out until 3.0 to come out before I jump into this game?

[@AoSCoach]

I don't think there is a reason to not start but I'd probably stick to the models first and hold off any of the books and rules.

[@camostrike4395]

If I really really wanted to play and not get bored if I wanted to support the place I play at it would be playing and painting an army that I just don’t like and I’m not gonna force myself into an army I dislike

[@praetorfriskywhisky7078]

Go for looks, try to figure out how that army generaly plays.. you like and it exites you? Go for it

[@AoSCoach]

I'm with you on that Captain. Rule of Cool is #1

[@akselhansen304]

is there a site where i can find competetive lists similar to how MTGgoldfish works for magic the gathering? im trying to get into the game and would really like to avoid buying junk not to say that i care how meta the faction is just wanna know which models in a given faction are good would be a shame to buy a bunch of slaves to darkness just to realize i should have bought more warriors instead of cypher lords u know

[@AoSCoach]

I'm not familiar with MTGgoldfish, however; from what I can see and assume about the site... no we don't. Probably the best I'd suggest is AoS Shorts or Goonhammer. Depends on what specifically you're looking for.

[@Emidretrauqe]

Also if you're in Australia you have two options: #1: Buy your army on ebay and pay for shipping #2: Fly to America and buy your army there instead

[@AoSCoach]

I mean if we're flying anywhere shouldn't it be the UK?

[@Emidretrauqe]

@@AoSCoach Yeah but that's 2 continents away. At that point you're going to have to buy 2 armies to break even.

[@adamcfmacdonald]

Honest newb question: do any of these armies have units that are scarce? Are all these armies reliably managed by GW so everyone has equal access? After trying to get Cursed City and hearing more about GW, I’m worried about getting invested and finding there’s something down the road I need that’s out of print or whatever. Thanks.

[@AoSCoach]

Honest Answer: the normal Age of Sigmar line which is what you see in your battletomes and generals handbook aren’t scarce. With COVID there has certainly been stock issues which see some products delayed but it’s usually resolved quickly. There are special limited edition models which come out for things like store anniversaries... which are limited. They offer at times box sets which feature 2 armies in them which are designed to be a limited run. Cursed City is an interesting challenge IJ its self and I think there is more to the story such as the GW warehouses being prepared for a rumoured AoS 3 launch in June-July with a new starter box plus that their cardboard and paper products like books and gaming tiles in Cursed City are produced in China while the minis are made in England and the USA. So to replace the sold out Cursed City will take a lot longer than replacing inventory

[@adamcfmacdonald]

@@AoSCoach Thanks very much for the reply. This was a helpful video. Still mulling over my first army. Cheers.

[@Eversca]

Not sure I agree nighthaunt are a good starter choice for having simple rules. Yes the rules are simple, but a new player who doesn't know how to play objectives and position tactically is just going to get their shit pushed in and get tabled every game. I know, for that is me.

[@AoSCoach]

The reason Nighthaunt are in there is because they’re forgiving. They ignore rend, they can come back from the dead, and you have enough troops so mistakes aren’t as punishing. They can also be complex to your valid point

[@Eversca]

@@AoSCoach oh wow quick reply. I agree they're forgiving in that sense, but I think they're pretty unforgiving in many other ways. It's not so much that they can be complex, it's that you have to play them in a complex way to be effective at all. I'm just a newb though, so this could just be my bias, but when I play against other newb friends who are fielding ironjawz or beastclaw for instance, if I make the smallest of errors when positioning I'll get charged and wiped out. I guess you can build a more resilient army, but I don't think many new players are gonna be running 80 chainrasps off the bat.

[@AoSCoach]

You make valid points which I won’t disagree with. If a new Nighthaunt player faced an experience player at a local store, they probably know enough to disarm them quickly, but that’s probably true with almost any army.

[@frogking5618]

Wow idoneth deepkin look awesome! Uh oh anything but eels is unplayable

[@AoSCoach]

Hard disagree with you here. People are enjoying Reavers at the moment and Sharks & Turtles have their place. You still need some Eels but not nearly as much as you used to

[@nicolasmatthysen7267]

Great vid, but sylvaneth on top? C'mon man

[@AoSCoach]

You just never know... some rules tweaks, a new warscroll for Alarielle, points adjustments and alterations to wyldwoods and they could be a powerhouse again

[@nicolasmatthysen7267]

I certainly hope so

[@jgeldrop9782]

Nice vid, but cmon Nurgle easy to play!? Starter army...no way. You need three books to play Nurgle. Let us imagine a scenario. Ah that battalion is not in maggotkin battletome it is in Teclis book, and oh that ignore one rend...no no that is in wrath of the everchosen. And why do I re-roll my six to hit? That is an artefact from the maggotkin battletome...oh and read your rules good, cause some aura’s are wholly within (maggotkin) and others are within.... I think ogor mawtribe woukd have been a more appropriate choice with respect to ease of playability.

[@AoSCoach]

The rules spread between 3 books right now are rough, I’ll admit that but they’re a generally resilient force which has generous synergy bubbles and compared to other armies have much easier rules. Ogors are another simpler army, I’ll agree with you there

[@jgeldrop9782]

@@AoSCoach And to be honest, I love Nurgle and as a long time player I dont mind that much. Actually Nurgle is great now with all these expansions as far as I’m concerned. And again great vid, great channel, keep it up, great to listen your interviews while painting my miniatures.

[@LorrusGrymn]

I'm sorry for my negativity, but I strongly disagree with your statement that Start Collecting! Stormcast Eternals Thunderstrike Brotherhood is a good purchase for new players. I would rather say that that this is one of if not the worst proposition for new people. What we have in the box: 10 Liberators from the first starter box. Hammers and shields, no special weapons. Liberators are already a terrible unit, if not the worst battleline in the game, and those are even worst still. 3 Prosecutors with hammers. Terrible unit. Can't fight. They will die if someone will look at them. 3 models unit, 6W. 3 Retributors. When a minimal unit contains 5. No options as well. Retributors are slow, week unit. Who has seen them on the table last time? Vandus Hammerhand. You can buy him separately if you really want him. Lord-Relictor - The only source of this model, unfortunately. He is one of maybe 2 units from the first line that are worth something now. Let's assume that someone will buy this box, and maybe some more. He like them, he thinks that they look strong, tough and powerful. He paints them and wont to play, and he is swiped from the table because of Mortal Wounds, buckets of attack, activations out of order, magic. What impression will he have when his super, magical, immortal warriors that were created as a vanguard to reclaim the Realms and face everything that those Remas can throw at them will be taken out easily by some rabble with the sticks? Again, I'm sorry for my negativity, but GW does not give me many reasons for positivity lately, you see. I will try to be positive at the first opportunity.

[@AoSCoach]

I’m not saying the Thunderstrike Brotherhood is a good box to buy but rather the faction is a good one to start with based on the reasons I suggested like cost and ease to paint. The intro sets like Soulwars and whatever AoS 3 brings out will likely be superior to the AoS 1 sculpts like Libs.

[@LorrusGrymn]

@@AoSCoach If you look at things in such a way, then yes, I can agree with you that hobby-wise, this army is good for beginners. Models are big, and this makes them easy to paint. There are not complicated too much as well. Buy to start the game with this army may be disappointing. There are not who they suppose to be. They have a large range of models, but few of them are any good right now. The book is old, and poorly aged; even at the release, it had no internal balance. Due to the GW decision and the path that AoS went, the survivability is limited, and few units in the game we can call resilient. Stir cast Eternals do not have much offensive power, speed and numbers. And for me, AoS is a game of glass hammers now.

[@bigtom8925]

@@LorrusGrymn liberators are awful on paper but when I play games they just hold objectives like beasts. I haven't played with the new liberator rules where they get +1 to hit and save if they haven't moved yet so my friends will hate them even more

[@CorpCoral]

Ive always liked The ogors and gloomspite gitz