Growing minority of religious conservatives reshape US Catholic Church

[@jonwilliams7823]

Breaking: Practicing Catholics believe the Faith

[@codywork-us7wu]

Its a scandal to the guitar mass boomers

[@jackieo8693]

Lol

[@Wolffur]

It must be quite a shock to the folks at the AP. Somebody actually believes in something other than modernism? Inconceivable!

[@Wolffur]

@Durante-nd5ii There are plenty of faithful practising Catholics at the reverent Novis Ordo masses as well.

[@brandywineblue]

@@Wolffur only because they are stuck there and have no access to the TLM

[@watchyoutb]

I just find it odd calling it "conservative" Catholics, or when the priest says "to the right"... This is just Catholicism 🤷‍♂️ anything else is just refusing the teachings of the Church, not Catholic

[@endorphinrush2867]

Faithful to the Tradition. Alternatively Catholics can be progressive to modern changes.

[@RockSmithStudio]

Exactly. When it comes to social issues of the last 60 years, Catholicism(and Christianity in general) is inherently conservative

[@emilio6425]

This is true, but I think that the issue is that the person who made this video doesn’t know anything about Catholicism. They are sort of conflating the movement that is more fond of latin, veiling, and things that go with that specific era in the western church’s tradition, with orthodox catholicism that upholds the doctrines promulgated by the church. Those two things may even tend to go together, but the director probably doesnt understand the distinction. The word choice is weird regardless. Especially when they say “reshape” the Catholic church in the title and then talk about contraception haha.

[@emilio6425]

Ah! I think i get it. They arent talking about “reshaping” the catholic church in terms of its doctrine, they actually are talking about the population of those who call themselves catholic actually believing the moral teachings of the church and living by them. Ok yeah thats just catholic.

[@adambrocklehurst4211]

​@@endorphinrush2867Christ worked in the real world, He still does. As he tells us, he's as present in the Prisoner or the Disabled as He is in the Eucharist.

[@Gabriel13099]

Boomers ruined Catholicism, it is the next generations duty to return it to its Glory, Ave Maria ✝️

[@redknightsr69]

I think I would say certain individuals ruined Vatican 2.

[@cordasuenaviolin604]

​@@redknightsr69But boomers stuck with the Church abuses of the following decades.

[@debbiegum2226]

Pope and clergy ruined so many things in the Church by even participating in VII. Boomers and the older nuns took it and ran with it as they started all the crazy stuff. I grew up during the 70’s and 80’s in the Catholic faith so I was right in the thick of it. Thankfully I came out of it and deprogrammed myself. Started attending the TLM in 2022 and have never looked back

[@BramptonAnglican]

@@cordasuenaviolin604not really. We’re seeing all the abusers that today’s conservative generations are allowing in the church’s the majority of abusers are now coming from today’s conservative generation. We see you.

[@aleckralc]

Bro you can’t blame an entire generation of people whose poor understanding of the faith is no fault of their own for the things that you don’t like about the church today. No one taught them, by and large, the faith as it truly is. Therefore, they often don’t understand it. You can’t expect them to without some strenuous effort on their part and great patience on yours.

[@carmeister_]

I’ve been going to the Latin Mass quite regularly and hope to become Catholic soon!

[@michaelspeyrer1264]

Don’t reduce Catholicism to liturgical preferences.

[@jlouis4407]

Yay

[@jlouis4407]

​​@@michaelspeyrer1264Don't mistake Neocatholcism for Catholicism the Church does not and cannot change.

[@Alieth]

Does that mean it’s held entirely in Latin? How do you understand it then?

[@jlouis4407]

@@Alieth Sermons and scripture readings are in the vernacular (English) and always have been. There's also a book with the English translation of the mass.

[@kevinninja787]

"Growing minority of religious conservatives reshape US Catholic Church" Glory to Jesus Christ! It's about time...

[@bezagebremedhine5102]

🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@Sedgewise47]

A little yeast makes the dough rise, doncha know?…

[@lukebrasting5108]

Will you be saying that when Catholic integralism re-emerges and they try turning the US into a Catholi monarchy? And they will through birthrates alone if given enough time. America would probably be on the verge of becoming a Catholic theocracy right now if it wasn't for the catastrophic disaster of Vatican II. And I'm not exaggerating when I I that.

[@thomashunt6123]

​@@Sedgewise47Yes, they are quite barmy, thank you

[@ViscountDI]

Amen!

[@liraco_mx]

"US Catholics rediscover the faith". Fixed.

[@Lucylou7070]

Maybe it's a life stage passage to question everything, and then return at some future time with maturity?

[@BlandBanana]

@@Lucylou7070boomers never did

[@Andrei-sg7lu]

Except everything they're doing is in opposition to the church and it's authority laid down in its most recent council.

[@Lucylou7070]

@@BlandBanana No yet, maybe!

[@liraco_mx]

@@Andrei-sg7lu how? Groups like the FSSP or ICKSP are in full communion with the Church and can continue celebrating the traditional Latin Mass with Pope Francis's blessing. How is that in opposition? You may be thinking a different group.

[@maxbelcaro19]

Thank you AP for posting this, as young Catholic it’s super encouraging seeing others return to orthodoxy and be so grounded in their faith to such a strong degree. Excited to see our generation come of age in the church.

[@ElGancha]

there is more to it than orthodoxy and that's why many of these people do not understand religion

[@kahner93]

Those who are flocking to Catholicism/Orthodox are the most indoctrinated. They've probably seen their church shrink in size, now they're retreating to the most fanatical in order to find a larger community. I feel sad for them.

[@israeliana]

Amén

[@israeliana]

This is truly beautiful. I hope to go to a SEEK conference too

[@kahner93]

Stop believing in magic

[@DoctorDewgong]

If you're skeptical about this, even if you're not Catholic, go to your local Latin Mass if you can find one. You will find that they are PACKED with people and the average age will be around 30

[@michaelspeyrer1264]

If Catholicism is refutable to how mass is done, all own really is, is a high liturgy loving Protestant.

[@DoctorDewgong]

@@michaelspeyrer1264 the Mass that was celebrated for a thousand years and created thousands of saints is protestant? You seem to hate TLM attendees based on internet stereotypes. Maybe go to a few and actually talk to the people

[@johnyang1420]

@@michaelspeyrer1264Jesus started Catholic church

[@jlouis4407]

This is the future of the Church, yes

[@jlouis4407]

​@@michaelspeyrer1264We don't want your protestant inspired services anymore.

[@karlheven8328]

I love Catholic Tradition and converted last year from 🇩🇪Lutheranism being 24 yo. Christ is king!❤

[@JoellHedges-dm1mu]

Associated Press, also known as Hearst News, they don’t call it hearse for nothing. Where you only get half the news.

[@JoellHedges-dm1mu]

It is not called TLM. It “was” called the Traditional Latin Mass(notice “I” said past tense). WE(those who belong to Christ) “ARE” Living in Rev. 21:3 ~ Douay Rheims Bible.

[@JoellHedges-dm1mu]

Oops

[@karlheven8328]

@@JoellHedges-dm1mu 😁

[@Lucylou7070]

@@JoellHedges-dm1mu TY

[@Wolffur]

Viva Christo Rey!

[@Schrodj1]

Viva!

[@cbcuc-lrpb9566]

Viva!

[@MrSMITCHERS]

ARRIBA ESPAÑA!!!

[@kauankauan6138]

Viva

[@juanmanuelmartinez-gamaoli5780]

Viva y viva la Hispanidad, puntero de la cristiandad, y vivan los mártires de la Cristiada y la Guerra Civil

[@vman9347]

Crazy how to be counter culture in 2024 is to be a Devout Religious person.

[@romainlettuce118]

The last true rebellion is Jesus Christ😊 it’s funny that I’ve been thinking this too. The people most scared to “come out” nowadays is the religious. The world truly is upside down. Remember that saint who said “there will come a time when men will go mad, and will see a sane person and say, You are mad because you are not like us.” That time is now

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Haha, exactly what I was thinking lol

[@AntonioGalio-yh5zo]

Always has been, i would add "christian" to your statement.

[@MegrelMamba]

S*xual Revolution and its consequences...

[@MetanoiaCatholicism]

I love being counter culture. True rebel! I even had the word CATHOLIC printed on my sweater. And it’s to demons what garlic is to vampires.

[@gabrielmedina2480]

I love being Catholic! All glory, praise, and honor to Christ the King!

[@drhumupower8570]

Now and forever!

[@nonpopishchristians]

bc you are damning your own soul to a lake of fire FOREVER

[@Jerome616]

I never got to experience pre Vatican 2 liturgy. Experiencing the Traditional Latin Mass was revolutionary for my faith.

[@DoctorDewgong]

I think I speak for a lot of young Catholics when I say that discovering the TLM brought me back to the Church

[@michaelspeyrer1264]

It’s the same faith, if people reduce Catholicism to how mass is done they don’t really understand Catholicism,

[@michaelspeyrer1264]

If your faith is reducible to how mass is done, you don’t have much faith to speak of.

[@Jerome616]

@@michaelspeyrer1264 That's like saying being a Dominican or a Nun is useless and means you never had much faith to speak of. The faith we hold is not only spiritual but physical as well. The sounds, the smells, the experience of mass itself is essential to the expansion and deepening of our faith.

[@cosmicallyderived]

It’s not about reducing faith to a form of liturgy it’s about optimizing the liturgy to most closely resemble the full grandeur and mystery of the Faith and to get the right prudential judgements correct in the selections and emphasis of the parts of the liturgy. They should concentrate the theology not dim it. It all centers around Jesus’ Hour. Is the Mass a sacrifice or a celebration? What are we to do in memory of Him as He asked us to.

[@ddenny6863]

Respect to my Catholic brothers and sister from an Orthodox follower.

[@patrickpelletier9298]

Thank you. Much respect to you and the patriarchs of orthodoxy as well

[@John_Six]

Peace of Christ to you from a Latin rite catholic.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

This! As an Orthodox Christian, it's inspiring seeing Catholics actually Catholicing correctly. Love you guy, stay loyal to Christ ☦✝️

[@jpespinosa4539]

May we find unity someday

[@juarez1011]

Amen We are entering some dark times. We need each other

[@celiamendez8056]

I believe poor cathecism and lukewarm Catholics has led to the state we're in right now. When Christ is not the centre of the family, what is there to hold us together? I pray that one day we will all be united in Christ.

[@nicolaushanselhandoyo3949]

Amen. Ave Cristo Rey!

[@katrinaanon1038]

Pretty true, but the Catholics trying to overcome these problems are wonderful. I have a grandson who is a Catholic peer leader for the youth and watched all 30 hours of Fulton Sheen's videos. Plus 3 of my 4 kid and their families are now strong Catholics, with one former Protestant now nicknamed The Renegade Catholic! Watch out for the traditional Catholics in the future!

[@LoudandClearChastity]

Totally agree Celia. Catholicism is a daily practice of faith, not just on Sundays.

[@LoudandClearChastity]

@@devilfork1 your moniker says it all. You're a devil worshipper.

[@grannygoes7882]

@@devilfork1 Evangelicals have higher divorce rate than non-believers? I find that hard to believe, forgive the pun lol! You have to know that just being catholic kept a lot of people together. It probably doesn't anymore as most anyone can get an annulment but it didn't used to be that way.

[@davidthegood]

We joined the Church on the Feast of the Assumption last year and attend the TLM. Deo gratias.

[@grannygoes7882]

It seems like all the new converts are going to the TLM.

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@grannygoes7882 Can confirm. I converted in 2021 and not long after found the TLM and have been going there ever since. The two other converts who were baptised alongside me also go to TLM with me as well. And many of the new converts this past Easter (all in their 20's) also come to the TLM from time to time. It's almost like young people want tradition back and not boomer guitar masses with cringy protestant folk songs...

[@MaryCWeaver]

Traditional Catholicism is not "right wing." It cannot be described in political terms. It is simply the Catholicism of the ages, not coincidentally in which most of the Church's saints were formed.

[@mdiblueraym.150]

Traditional Catholicism is Christocentric. Society and the poorly catechized don’t understand this and need to think in terms of right & left politics.

[@George-jd6fz]

@@mdiblueraym.150 if one is to learn true catholicism politically, we must reject all that came after the french revolution. the will of the angry and disobedient masses. Joseph de Maistre is one to look in to.

[@Andrei-sg7lu]

The church isn't the same as it was 100 years and not the same as it was 500 or 1000 years ago. You Catholics just delude yourselves into thinking that.

[@Rochelle937]

You are correct!

[@Merriwether-w8k]

Yes it can due to its treatment of homosexuals as second class - not to mention its refusal to allow women to be priests - it rejects current neuroscience on these matters as well as genetics - it is untethered to modern science and will end up slowly dying (already happening)

[@mikdan8813]

"Tradition is the passing on of the fire, not the worship of the ashes" -Gustav Mahler

[@johnspinelli9396]

Love that quote

[@earthangel3234]

I was in the second grade when Vatican II was implemented and I experienced the profound change in the Church. It was a very confusing time. Eventually I drifted away from going to mass and I was lukewarm at best. Twelve years ago I returned to the Church because of my children and grandchildren. I rediscovered the Latin Mass and I realized how much I missed it. I'm now a Traditional Latin Catholic, I'm striving to live in a State of Grace. Best of all my family also followed me and we all attend the Traditional mass together.

[@michaelspeyrer1264]

The thing this, Catholicism’s isn’t reducible to the Mass, it’s one’s relationship to Jesus Christ, if you drifted away from the Church which never changed its teaching, because of how mass was done, and only came back because of how Mass somewhere is done, than you still don’t get it. And at this rate ever will. This his what I call lazy Catholicism that has never grown beyond an infantile level of understanding of itself.

[@cydra_infinity1423]

Better Pray Francis doesn’t ban your TLM lol.

[@AluminiumT6]

@@michaelspeyrer1264 What is lazy and ignorant is thinking that dissociating the liturgical practice from doctrine (which yes, didn't change) won't negatively impact the spiritual life of the faithful. It is demonstrated by objective and empirical data that it did, so there's no question about that. What is even worse and an insane injustice is for you to blame those who suffered the consequences of things they had no control over for responding accordingly. It's victim-blaming and gaslighting, taking the side of the powerful against the weak, and it's disgusting and uncharitable behavior. Stop attacking Catholics. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@cosmicallyderived]

@earthangel3234 Please share what you remember of that transition period for posterity. How was the Novus Ordo presented and how was it rolled out? Share any detail for what the faithful spoke of the time in reaction to it. How was it sold or not sold, marketed or just done and started up all of a sudden out of left field or was it a gradual transition. Please share.

[@hamie7624]

​@@michaelspeyrer1264 wow, what an uncharitable thing to say. Don't rashly judge your brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@Veritas1234]

Just so everyone knows, this is really a hit piece by AP to put Catholicism in a negative light. Little do they know they are evangelizing for us.

[@drhumupower8570]

That's the best part 🤣

[@Jerome616]

Yep, they are hoping to add to the current “Christian far right bad” search engine soup.

[@mbd501]

I didn’t interpret it that way. It seemed pretty neutral.

[@BryanKirch]

See the text on the screen at 4:04 “the conservative movement has been angered by the popes more liberal views and reject him entirely” sedes this is what you’re creating. It should be “conservatives see the pope and Vatican 2 as falling away from the True teachings of the church and hope to remind the Church if it’s heritage through their actions praying daily for the renewal of the faith

[@Veritas1234]

@@mbd501 I would suggest reading the article they just published too. The terminology is all liberal buzzwords and they'll say things like traditional Catholic families are larger due to the "ban on contraception"". That's misleading and false. AP believes these video and article releases as trojan horses for their liberal agenda to turn people away, but the more they do this it actually becomes a trojan horse for the traditional Catholic movement.

[@realDanielAugustine]

I was just baptized into the Church over Easter. This is great to see.

[@Wolffur]

I was as well! Welcome home!

[@lt.random210]

Congratulations!! Welcome to the faith!

[@Wolffur]

@@lt.random210 Thank you!

[@TheCrusaderPub]

The comments are definitely not what AP was expecting! 😂 Vivo Cristo Rey!

[@blackhawtree]

Proud to be Catholic!

[@AshishAntony-ys3iy]

I am syric catholic from India...hello brother

[@562Omar]

Catholic strong! 💪

[@konyvnyelv.]

Hail Satan

[@AshishAntony-ys3iy]

@@konyvnyelv. better than islam

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@konyvnyelv. Wow, so edgy and cool. We Catholics are shaking in our boots right now because you praised a being that you don't even believe in Lol

[@grandlotus1]

My wife of 42 years and I consider ourselves faithful Roman Catholics. Our three kids, their spouses, and and our soon-to-be 13 grandchildren are faithful and prefer the Latin Mass. Thank you, Jesus! Christ commended us to love one another as He loved us - through service, sacrifice, and agape love. In this, we love those who are disordered - i.e., sinners - since we all fit into that boat. Therefore, we recognize sin for what it is and do not endorse it. We pray that all souls go to Heaven, especially those most in need of Divine Mercy.

[@LoudandClearChastity]

Lucky you to have such a devoted Catholic family. Would you like to adopt me? Warm greetings from Australia 🦘

[@sitka49]

@@LoudandClearChastity I have a cousin. He and his wife are traditional catholics ( before it was the old new thing again?) they had 10 kids , and home schooled them , they would go to church at least 3, to 4 times a week. - Crazy thing is half of their kids end up leaving the faith.

[@CatholicHousewife2017]

​only half left the Church? That's actually not a bad ratio in this Era. I'm sure the parents will never give up hope & Pray & Fast for their return.

[@sitka49]

@@CatholicHousewife2017 If they were holiday catholics I could understand - But they were orthodox trads, I guess sometimes indoctrination just doesn't stick. That's like my sister in-law she's was oldest of 7 sister - But guess what when she was old enough to watch them? When she got married after a yr or so her parents were wondering when they were going to start having kids - this went on for awhile ,finally she said, " I spent my childhood raising your kids I don't need any of my own". Boom!

[@CatholicHousewife2017]

@@sitka49 I recently heard, though forget the exact statistics, but it was something like when a family is Catholic & both Dad & Mom attend Mass regularly 25% of the children remain Catholic in adulthood, while if only the Mom is Catholic attending Mass regularly, it's only 5 % to of kids that remain Catholic into adulthood. Now that doesn't take into account adult children Reversions back to the Catholic Church at some point after they abandoned the Faith... Hopefully, whatever that % is still steadily rise.

[@jlouis4407]

These hippies have tried to destroy our religion and us Catholics are taking it back. The future is traditional. Don't like it? The Anglican Church is down the hall and will be happy to have you. Deo Gratias.

[@JackieDaytona1776]

Curious - does reclaiming traditional Catholic practices as you advocate require STARTING with judgement and condemnation the way your comment does, or can that be added later? I assume Jesus would have been the first to point all the hippies down the hall.

[@jlouis4407]

@@JackieDaytona1776 Yes it does. Truth cannot be proclaimed without error being condemned at the same time, which is the error of Vatican II.

[@alejandrocanela691]

@@JackieDaytona1776 The hippies went against Church teachings on things like birth control. It is not a judgement just a fact.

[@abscess1st]

Careful with spiritual arrogance my brother

[@DANtheMANofSIPA]

Vatican II was made up of a lot of Anglican and protestant clergy in the council. Not to mention CIA involvement. Thats the reason your church is in the position it is currently, with a heretic at the reigns.

[@bradyhayes7911]

I was encouraged to see this article! Especially with how many mainline Protestant denominations are folding to the culture. So many young Catholics on fire for their faith!

[@prestonyannotti7661]

As a protestant I'm backing you guys

[@ghrtfhfgdfnfg]

@@prestonyannotti7661Why?

[@SteelVoodoo]

Methodist just condoned lgbtq preachers and marriage. A hard fold against biblical scripture.

[@jrgen7261]

Hard to disagree, yet we do find this tendensy in protestantism as well. Just as we see among the catholics we find a movement towards traditional expressions of lutheran, calvinistic and anglican church away from the progressive forms in protestantism.

[@jrgen7261]

​@@ghrtfhfgdfnfg why not suport other christian denominations?

[@carolinafine8050]

Traditionalists… that’s what we are.

[@michaelspeyrer1264]

Actually most of the’ Are really just Jancenists.

[@jlouis4407]

They are Catholics, most of the rest follow NeoCatholicism invented in the 1960s which is not Catholic.

[@urpoche]

And we are the future

[@nicolaushanselhandoyo3949]

​@@urpoche Amen.

[@konyvnyelv.]

Your religion is just kept alive for few generations more. Then it will die

[@aadamy]

I converted to Catholicism two years ago. I love the richness of the faith. New atheism, new age, “spiritual but not religious” to Reformed/Calvinist all the way HOME.

[@pmlm1571]

so glad for you--Welcome Home!

[@Andrei-sg7lu]

So how long did it take you to embrace a religion of hate, bigotry, and child abuse?

[@tourist1313]

Sounds like we had a similar journey! I even went to Calvin College. Happy we made our way home.

[@WFox-zs3oe]

I just joined the Catholic Church. Out of the blue. Just walked in . I absolutely love the church

[@pmlm1571]

Welcome Home. Love our Church.

[@DoctorDewgong]

Make sure you ask the Church about RCIA!

[@PurpleFace84]

It's now OCIA

[@drstewart]

Welcome to the faith!

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@PurpleFace84 What does the O stand for?

[@shlamallama6433]

Thanks AP for giving publicity to Catholics in the US who strive to take their faith on Church teaching's terms and not on the terms of the individual adherent.

[@fschutt247]

They aren‘t even showing the Latin Mass, only a conservative NO, guess that would be too extremist

[@annieboookhall]

AP doesn't know what it's talking about

[@urpoche]

Exactly, people irreverantly dressed are never a thing in TLM

[@jtmartin1170]

Radtrads who constantly complain about the NO and Pope Francis cringe. We’re all Catholics, and the NO doesn’t violate Apostolic Tradition or the Magesterium. Preference in Liturgy does not diminish one’s love for Christ or the Church.

[@urpoche]

@@jtmartin1170 it diminished belief in the Real Presence though...

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@jtmartin1170 If one's liturgical preference does not diminish one's love for Christ or the Church, then why are you complaining about people preferring the TLM over the NO?

[@canchadhandlethat872]

There’s no Liberalism or Conservatism in Catholicism. Catholicism is above both and in many ways champions paths that intersect into those views from time to time but it’s a higher standard as both left and right only appeal to man, government etc.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

I mean, there are traditionalists and modernists, and traditionalists are overwhelmingly political conservatives, while modernists are overwhelmingly political liberals. It's also fair to say that traditionalists are conservative with respect to praxis and doctrine, insisting that the deposit of faith is preserved exactly as it was handed down to us, while modernists are liberal in their deviations from tradition and their treatment of scripture. See for example the Latin American liberation theologians who ruined the Catholic Church's dominance in Brazil and other countries in Latin and South America. It's completely fair to describe them as liberal, or even as left-wing, because by their own admission they interpret scripture through the lens of Marxism. Conversely, there are many radical traditionalist Catholics who insist on conservative social policy, particularly on matters of sexuality, abortion, euthanasia, etc. I would count myself among them, and I wouldn't object to being called a conservative Catholic. I do think there is only one deposit of faith, and you're either faithful to the Church's teaching or you're not. But the faction of the unfaithful dissenters is big enough at this point that it's important to distinguish it from the faithful faction. So it makes sense to use these terms for these factions.

[@eddardgreybeard]

​@@ToxicallyMasculinelol When you get right down to it, Catholicism is socially conservative but fiscally liberal Like a 90s Democrat. A blue dog.

[@Lucylou7070]

@@ToxicallyMasculinelol I think those are the stereotypes we hear/see in the media. I know of two traditional Catholics who think abortion is all right (only said when with very close friends), could be outliers but still they are real people.

[@Andrei-sg7lu]

Nope. They're just a bunch of Trumpers that hate the poor and oppress minorities just like the Baptists.

[@mechadoggy]

@@Andrei-sg7lu “hate the poor and oppress minorities just like the Baptists” So, as a Baptist who is a racial minority myself, I want to know, what do you currently do on a regular basis to help out poor minorities since obviously love them so much and certainly aren’t trying to weaponize them in your rhetoric at all?

[@eudaimon7324]

In the end, we win! Christ is King!

[@terryleebo]

I am a convert to the faith who loves the traditional Mass. It is not to be antagonistic to the ordinary form of the Roman Rite, but to be in a place where I can pray the Mass and not be distracted by the environment.

[@tedntricia]

When I see young Catholics standing up for their faith, it gives me hope for our country.

[@suezcontours6653]

These are brown people. They're not talking about whites. Your population is in decline and soon will be extinct

[@anapaulatorres1288]

As a peruvian conservative catholic woman this makes me so happy, seeing that more people are finding the truth in the church of JesusChrist. Praying for the church all over the world!

[@earthangel3234]

My grandmother was born in Peru, she would take me mass.

[@karlheven8328]

Praying for you😊🙏🌷

[@rafaelwilks]

In some ways, this isn't really conservative or liberal - it's a growing minority realizing and embracing the Church as it really is. In case you think that if you like the Tridentine Mass, you automatically must follow the Republican party, no - this is not the case at all, in any way, shape, or form. I, for one, being for all intents and purposes one of the Catholics described here (and there could be lots, lots more), am entirely at odds with the Republican party as concerns climate change and immigration (yes, I know the climate changing for the worse, and, yes, I'm totally pro-immigrant). If possible, I would like to see the Mass for the entire church returned to about 1945, which was right before Annibale Bugnini came in and created the current mess in the Roman Rite - in fact, literally everything Bugnini did with the liturgy, and literally all of his ideas, really should be cancelled and removed. If you're still thinking that being a Trad Catholic automatically means being Republican (or politically conservative, for that matter). His Holiness Pope Leo XIII completely debunks that illusion in paragraph 8 of Pergrata: "Everyone may hold his own opinion in purely political matters and defend it honestly and legitimately, provided it is not contrary to religion or justice. Yet those, if there are any, who do not distinguish clearly between what is holy and what is merely civil, commit a pernicious error which lends the name of religion to a political party."

[@palchum1185]

Conservative in the real sense of conserving Christian society, the republican party isnt even conservative a lot of the time. Its important that we maintain pressure against LGBT indoctrination/grooming and abortion regardless if it is “electable” or not

[@rafaelwilks]

@@palchum1185 💯

[@jlouis4407]

Annibale Bugnini was a freemason who left his briefcase behind full of material and was turned into the Italian police. The new mass is almost singlehandedly his creation and he deceived both the bishops and the Pope.

[@anneclark9508]

Democrat party defends and legislates abortion; it is pert of their party platform. Human life is paramount and we are enjoined to care for the earth and all living creatures on and in it.

[@richardyates7280]

That is true. It's also true that there are some politicians and policy programs for which we cannot vote.

[@amdg672]

Viva Cristo Rey

[@konyvnyelv.]

Hail Satan

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

​@@konyvnyelv. Why are you hailing someone you don't even believe exists?

[@konyvnyelv.]

@@SanctusPaulus1962 to troll believers

[@SanctusPaulus1962]

@@konyvnyelv. So you're a loser who has no life is what you're saying?

[@marygil]

I am so hopeful we can get things back to Christ and the Church, what truly is the Catholic Church. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻. “Jesus, I trust in you” .

[@gravelAMDG]

I am the catholic the AP warned you about

[@jlouis4407]

Same Deus Vult

[@jonathanbourke305]

We are so back.

[@Wolffur]

Deus Vult.

[@JarronL-tf8tk]

These faithful will help bring Christ to millions.

[@jerryczarski5991]

The Spirit will correct any failings of the Church over time. This is the beginning of a new springtime of genuine Catholic faith. We are not confused by the musings of so-called theologians who have lost their singlemindedness to promote clear moral guidance. This faith is a gift from the Spirit who reveals to us beauty, goodness, and truth.

[@grannygoes7882]

I hope/pray you are right. I doubt I live long enough to see it but hopefully you are right.

[@dominicguye8058]

@@grannygoes7882 I'm not Catholic, but based on Catholic history, they ARE right.

[@matthewbateman6487]

This just in: 2,000 yr old religion, specifically concerned with maintaining traditional values, has slowly been attracting more people with traditional values.

[@situatesanctify2818]

Jesus Christ is Lord, Mary is his mother.

[@SouthernFriedPap1st]

Our Lady of Victory, pray for us.

[@konyvnyelv.]

Hail Satan

[@micyjoejoe5820]

​@@konyvnyelv.Genesis 3:15 (womp womp for Satanists)

[@konyvnyelv.]

@@micyjoejoe5820 hail Satan again

[@FVStageII-hg3dp]

@@konyvnyelv. _And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever._ (Revelation 20:10) I don't know man; that's kind of an L for Satan

[@konyvnyelv.]

@@FVStageII-hg3dp cope with your false book

[@Classical.Conservative]

The youth are attracted to the truth and to tradition and we are not the minority. We are Catholics who actually uphold church teaching.

[@George-jd6fz]

Nick Is the future leader. The white catholic is truly back

[@isaiah3872]

​@@George-jd6fzWhat does this sentence even mean?

[@jvpd17]

Why are young Catholics painted as radicals, when we’re not trying to change but uphold current Church teaching?

[@Rochelle937]

Right! It's radical to be a Catholic these days and believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church.

[@praisegod3768]

I'm not Catholic, but I am so encouraged to see these young people seeking and following Jesus Christ!

[@weirdwilliam8500]

All the survey data shows that young people are increasingly leaving their faith and leaving organized religion. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

[@Rochelle937]

Me too! Check out the Catholic Church. It's the true Church of Jesus Christ, which is why it has been so targeted.

[@jlouis4407]

@@weirdwilliam8500The last year Pew reported I believe Christianity had gained 3% against the “nones.”

[@beautifulrose8619]

Very beautiful to see the younger generation respect Catholicism. It is not meant to be watered down. The tradtions are beautiful.

[@CPATuttle]

When I read the bishops letters taught directly by the apostles. It was clear they believed in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist and apostolic succession. Ignatius of Antioch. And Clement of Rome

[@krakatoapinatubo6362]

We drive 30 miles and through 2 counties to get to our traditional parish with adoration, benediction, eucharistic processions, marble altar rail, and Latin mass. 100% worth it. As a convert, I'm not at all interested in Catholic "lite."

[@Gaming_Network]

What the heck? Two countries? Where’s that if you don’t mind me asking

[@peterwallis4288]

​@@Gaming_Network2 counties. Probably England.

[@mariekatherine5238]

People NEED a religion, a steady, secure, place of safety in a world that is none of those things. I attend Mass in a traditional home-church. There are three priests who live on the grounds of parishioners. The families take turns hosting Mass.

[@Lucylou7070]

Are the homes consecrated?

[@sdeepj]

Religion is what causes violence and destroys the safety of others. It teaches to view the other as something less than human

[@DriftlessCatholic]

The Roman Catholic Church has withered on the surface, but is coming back strong in her roots.

[@denkoxh8610]

Love this 🙏🙏 it's time we go back to our traditions and ensure our faith is number 1

[@orangemanbad]

Traditional Catholicism was the largest and most influential religion in world history for a reason. All the beauty in the west was built from this faith.

[@bvokey8842]

What you’re showcasing is what Catholics would call traditional Catholicism, not conservative.

[@jlouis4407]

It’s just Catholicism, not Neocatholicism which arose with Vatican II and what Francis exemplifies. Celebrating World Autism Awareness Day and ignoring the Saints’ Feasts. He will just be a dark mark in history very soon.

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

As an Orthodox Christian, it's inspiring seeing Catholics actually Catholicing correctly. Love you guy, stay loyal to Christ ☦✝️

[@dalisayhd1980]

Im proud to born Catholic and my whole family.🙏🙏🙏

[@DavidPeel-fo9xv]

It’s quite interesting to see young people come back to established religion. I may not be Catholic, but it’s an amazing tradition. ¡Viva Cristo rey!

[@margie0777]

I love this! So encouraging. I converted 2 years ago. I am so blessed to be Catholic. Thank you Jesus❤🙏🙏🙏

[@tylerdean3489]

I am a student at Franciscan University of Steubenville and over the past year here have definitely grown in love for the Church and tradition overall. I don't personally like the TLM but I attend a reverent NO Mass that is Ad Orientum and I love it. Embracing the true Church, it's teachings and it's practices will slowly but surely revive the faithful and the world. This video is awesome!

[@glennlanham6309]

see you Thursday, if you go to graduation

[@tommore3263]

Steubenville is a beautiful light in the western sky.

[@SealedHeartArt]

I'm from Benedictine and we have a similar thing. The NO there is so reverent, with chants and beautiful music put on by the monks. They showed some of them in the video. :)

[@upstatelynchmob]

How could you not like the TLM?! The Mass of the ages, the Mass the great saints of the church attended!

[@glennlanham6309]

@@upstatelynchmob the Novus Ordo is actually based on Justin Martyr's Liturgy, which goes back to the mid-2nd century, this is the myth of things..

[@icxcarnie]

Shocking: Faithful Catholics remain Catholic!

[@RBMK-ym4dm]

We’re here to reclaim a beautiful liturgy and return reverence and majesty to the mass and to our most holy Catholic Church. Christ be with you all ❤️

[@theneighborguy]

AP thinks it's a hit piece but it's like a trophy really. Gloria Patri

[@philmiller2010]

GenZ and Millenial Catholics will not sustain more than 50% of Novus Ordo-only parishes currently in service. But all the TLMs will live.

[@sitka49]

The closest TLM to me is 2 hrs away ( and it's always full, great!) - But right now I live in a community of roughly 120K people, Just off the top of my head there is 10 to 15 churches in town ,and that doesn't include any surrounding towns or suburbs and I guarantee each one has at least one catholic church -if they all went TLM how many people would be filling those pews? - probably not not anymore then then there are right now - and possibly some devote Novus Ordo would quit going too?

[@CatholicTraditional]

@@sitka49With the N.O. the avg. parishioner is 55 and priests 75. TLM avg. parishioner is 25-30 with priests about 40-45. There’s no sense in keeping the N.O. when it’s as old as the avg. parishioner, and been a disaster. (V2 only allowed for partial translations and OT readings on Sundays on top of the TLM, not a wholesale redo.)

[@OffMyPlanetNow]

Deo gratias. It's truly wonderful to see youths flocking to the faith again. I'm 23 and my Latin Mass in Milwaukee barely has standing room on Sundays and I know this is common elsewhere. A surge in the importance of Eucharistic Adoration and the Rosary are blessings too.

[@garalipe]

We need to pray more for more revivals everywhere

[@johncox2284]

It's the same thing that has been drawing people to the Orthodox Church. We get a lot of former evangelicals who came to the awareness that church is a lot more than a rousing sermon and a worship band.

[@tMatt5M]

Glory to Jesus Christ. We're gonna make it.

[@neilanadams5173]

Going back to how things should be, last 70 years been an aberration in the Church.

[@LogoTimeClark]

I don't know who the AP author is, but labeling Catholics as conservative because they practice a previous way of celebrating Mass is poor journalism. It is just another effort to divide the general public against believers in Christ.

[@WeirdLittleBro]

Even in my normie Novus Ordo parish, I’ve started seeing women wear veils, more people receiving on the tongue, etc. The mood has shifted. There is a hunger for more reverence.

[@jamesmccloud7535]

Yoooooo I remember watching your Arrow in the knee video as a kid. It's so nostalgic to hear it today. I did not expect to see you here of all places, and you being Catholic as well!!

[@prometheusjones6580]

Of course Faggioli gives these girls a back-handed compliment, insinuating that they're "backward"

[@matthiassevigny291]

Massimo Faggioli is the one who is really backwards. He would have us forget every pontificate and council before John XIII.

[@capraagricola]

let's just say they don't call him Straightioli!

[@bettygrable6440]

BEANS

[@capraagricola]

MAXIMUM BEANS

[@prometheusjones6580]

@@capraagricola kek

[@joaofranca3041]

Nice to see american people rediscovering catholicism! A similar movement is happening in Brazil, catholicism was just a "cultural religion" for many years but now we are rediscovering the beauty of our religion. Not only TLM but charismatic movements too, who are defeating modernism.

[@isaiah3872]

I've heard mixed reactions about the Charismatic Catholic movements in Brazil. On one hand, some of the groups/their members (all of which celebrate the Holy Mass of Paul VI, correct?) express unorthodox views about the charismatic gifts that are at odds with Catholic teaching and are full of liturgical abuses that present the faith in a similar manner to Pentecostalism. On the other hand, they (clergy & laymen alike) seem to be very observant of Catholic teachings in all other ways. Is this a fair estimation in your opinion?

[@loulit7180]

How beautiful it is to see young people giving back to Our Lord what belongs to Him who created them!

[@becky6568]

I’ve been reciting the Holy Rosery in Latin it’s been a beautiful blessing.

[@robertdobie3400]

There is a sense in which political stances do track with religious orthodoxy, but not in the sense that the secular world understands it: for the secular mind, one's religion is just a reflection of one's politics; for the orthodox Catholic it is precisely the reverse: one's politics are informed by one's religious beliefs, which are more fundamental. I know that in my case, my reversion to the Catholic faith and, in particular, to "traditionalism" came first, and then changes in my political views only followed later.

[@Triquetra15]

Thank for saying this. My faith comes way before my politics. Faith informs politics. Politics doesn’t inform my faith.

[@dantembrown]

as a religious guy in his 20's it is hard looking woman with the mindset of wanting kids, proud to be a mother, and start a family despite the odds of the modern society. with Christ we will make it through. all you have to is take my hand

[@pinesap34]

Faithful, orthodox Catholics are winning ✝️🇻🇦🕊️

[@George-jd6fz]

yoooooo based?

[@neggit2063]

In the midst of "it's over" I've also began to feel that "we're so back". Christ is King.

[@thisgirlisoverit]

just say you watch trad west and go. politicial views don't define a church

[@neggit2063]

@@thisgirlisoverit The "right wing" set at the right of the King. Monarchies were confirmed by the Pope. Political "views" come from the church, or the absence of it.

[@chipblackwood704]

There is no such thing as a liberal or conservative Catholic. There are Catholics who pray and Catholics who don’t pray. Political alliance is worldly. Presenting the landscape in the way this video does is incorrect, divisive, and a poor way to look at the Catholic faith. There is a growth for love of tradition in the Catholic Church amongst the younger generations. There is not a growing love of “conservative” Catholicism or “liberal” Catholicism. We’re seeing a desire from young adults to return to traditions that have not been common to see since the late 50s/ early 60s. That is a more valuable and truthful observation with what is happening in the Catholic Church today.

[@Rochelle937]

Agree. Well put.

[@isaiah3872]

Correct, but at the same time, there are self-identified Catholics (especially in the US) on both sides who are politically vocal and reinforce this misrepresentation themselves.

[@flameofthewest6196]

Before tbe 60s, this is what the Church believed and worshiped for 2000 years, with slow changes over time. We are just returning to that, we are not "reshaping" it. Also since liberals aren't having children (or abort them), we are growing and eventually be the norm. Demographics is destiny as they say.

[@yellowmask1796]

Not really, the muslim birth rate is pretty high

[@George-jd6fz]

@@yellowmask1796 ye but that is sheer quantity. Quality triumphs quantity

[@peterwallis4288]

​@@George-jd6fzwhen it comes to demographics, it's all about quantity, I afraid.

[@George-jd6fz]

@@peterwallis4288 its really not. A small organised minority trumps a disorganised majority and mass deportations can begin with the reversing of immigration policies

[@billkolb1305]

Tradition is the future!

[@CatholicHousewife2017]

Awesome! Excellent to see young Catholics are practicing their Catholic Faith ❤

[@KevinDonlin]

Went to a Novus Ordo yesterday and a Latin mass this morning. It’s the difference between White Castle and a 5-star restaurant.

[@christianman73]

The Novus Ordo at my parish, and *almost* every parish that I've ever attended, is very reverent. There is no need to unnecessarily alienate people by insulting the Mass that they prefer. Comments like yours, above, are really not helping the unity of the Church, because the Church doesn't stand or fall on one kind of Mass in one language. The Church belongs to Christ, not the Latin language.

[@paulcarter996]

Millennial here, age 34. I’ve started going to the Traditional Latin Mass, every Sunday for a year now. Ever since Pope Francis placed restrictions it actually made me more curious as to what was going on, and it has really fed my Faith. I still love and respect Pope Francis, I want to make that clear, but the Traditional Latin Mass has really stolen my heart. I’ve been able to get a lot of my friends attending too. ❤

[@thomasjorge4734]

Long Live Christ the King!

[@vieersfan]

Much love from a Polish National Catholic, maintain the faith, pray for unity!

[@kelkabot]

It’s not about being “conservative” or not. There’s Catholic and there’s not Catholic, and that is that.

[@catholicconvert2119]

Yup

[@oldpossum57]

Religion and fascism always lived together happily. I grew up in post Duplessis Québec. I can tell you that this retrenchment of conservâtes in religion and its marriage with authoritarian government in MAGA will have the same result: the repudiation of religion as the worst repression. Québec today is a thoroughly secular society.

[@ryanscottlogan8459]

It will not remain that way.The Catholic Faith will always bloom again just like the flowers of spring.

[@oldpossum57]

@@ryanscottlogan8459 Lovely metaphor, Ryan, but a false analogy. Christianity, like all the religions, is based on magical thinking. The principle tenet, the resurrection story, simply did not happen. We know that, because unlike the superstitious credulous peasants 3000 years ago, we understand most of the physics that apply to the mid-sized things of the universe. Maybe not sub-atomic particles or the whole cosmos, but for sure humans and stars. The second law of thermodynamics says that a two-day corpse just stays dead. You would have to figure out how to bamboozle educated people with hoary old myths: you can’t do it. Religion thrives in ignorance, fear, poverty, political and economic insecurity. Québec left those things behind in La révolution tranquille of the 60s.. And we are not going back to mumbling rosaries and taking political instructions from priests, and having our children taught by pederast priests. . We celebrate une société laïque.

[@dmgiova3788]

I am 71 and drawn back home to the faith I was raised in. My family attended the Traditional Latin Mass until I was in the 5th or 6th grade. I am a baby Boomer.

[@jlouis4407]

That’s great

[@doverbeachcomber]

As a 74-year-old Catholic, I applaud these young people. The liturgical changes of the 1960’s and 1970’s were forced on us; many changes were either not called for by Vatican II, or were actually contrary to its stated wishes. The results in steadily dropping attendance and closed parishes are plain for all to see, but the Old Guard of aging hippies who run the Church in most places won’t give up their grip on the wheel. In both dioceses in which I’ve lived recently - San Jose and Sacramento, California - the only growing parishes are those that are reinstating more reverent liturgies or have even returned to the pre-Vatican II Mass. Since Pope Francis has recently moved to ban the latter, despite its clearly superior attraction for actual modern people, I conclude that he would rather see the Church vanish under the obsolete 1960s liturgies he prefers rather than see it flourish again under the liturgy he dislikes.

[@christianman73]

Pope Francis didn't completely "ban" the Latin Mass. That is a misunderstanding spread by secular media, and by some Catholic media which, very unfortunately, openly despises the current Pope and misrepresents his teaching. The fact is, the Latin Mass is still being said, with his official Papal approval, at various parishes in states across the U.S., including in the area where I live.

[@danieldefonce]

Soon-to-be Pentecostal turned Byzantine Catholic right here. Yes, and amen!

[@bohem5568]

LOL,....My parents were devout Catholics. I was raised Catholic. It was never about politics. It was never about being "conservative".

[@Marco-qe5zw]

Bring the Latin mass back to all parishes and watch the Church thrive. (i attend Novus ordo)

[@sitka49]

They won't thrive , The closest TLM to me is 2 hrs away ( and it's always full, great!) - But right now I live in a community of roughly 120K people, Just off top of my head there is 10 to 15 churches in town ,and that doesn't include any surrounding towns or suburbs and I guarantee each one has at least one catholic church -if they all went TLM how many people would be filling those pews? - probably not not anymore then then there are right now - and possibly some devote Novus Ordo would quit going too?

[@jtmartin1170]

@@sitka49 Doesn’t have to be TLM only. There’s plenty of parishes that offer TLM, Novus Ordo in English and Spanish at different times, so that everyone in the community can express celebrate the Mass in a way that satisfies their spirit.

[@jimbarino2]

You shouldn't extrapolate a few churches that offer the TLM being full to every church offering it being full. Most "normie" catholics are put off by the TLM and would find it alien. I wish it wasn't so, but that's the way it is. I think it would be better to reintroduce some of the elements that were never acutally supposed to be removed by the NO: kneeling at the rail, communion on the tougue, gregorian chant, incense. People would still be put off, of course, but a return of sacredness would start to draw people in even if they don't understand why.

[@AugustinB-h4xy]

To journalists, Biden is a "normal" Catholic and people who go to mass, pray, confess and are pro-life are "conservatives reshaping the US Catholic Church" 😂

[@texas_rubyranger9304]

The fire rises. Christ is King! Hail Mary!

[@AnnMcErlean-de4jo]

What really bothers me is "relativism". The Bible, catechism, and tradition, never change, and the same rules apply to everyone.

[@xersoslexersos6366]

Cope and seethe, AP. Christus Vincit.

[@ShomoGoldburgler]

Gosh, I wish we had more TLM in every parish in Canada, or even Catholics who are Catholic, not cultural "Catholics". And a government that wasn't so anti- Christianity Pray for Canada, please pray for Canada