Brother of IRA victim on McGuinness death

(22 Mar 2017) The brother of a man killed over 40 years ago during "The Troubles" in Northern Ireland said on Wednesday that Martin McGuinness had "blood on hands".
Colin Worton, whose brother Kenneth was shot and killed alongside 9 other protestants at the Kingsmill Massacre in County Armagh in 1976, spoke out over the former politician and IRA commander's failure to apologise for acts of violence.
McGuinness, who died on Tuesday at 66, was an Irish Republican Army commander who led the paramilitary movement toward reconciliation with Britain and went on to serve as Northern Ireland's deputy first minister for a decade in a Catholic-Protestant power-sharing unity government.
A militant who long sought to unify Ireland through violence, he became a peacemaking politician who earned the respect, and even the friendship, of his former enemies.
However, Worton said he couldn't understand the messages from world leaders on Tuesday, hailing McGuinness as a peacemaker.
"When people say that McGuinness was a peacemaker. It really insults me," he said.
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[@Rb1_2_3]

I feel nothing but sadness for all the pain every individual suffered through this conflict

[@invisibleman4827]

The Kingsmill ethnic cleansing massacre deserves a bit more than just 'sadness'.

[@donnachamcgowan]

How many Catholics were murdered by unionists and loyalist paramilitarys ???.

[@tjclarke1892]

No political party or person is trying to justify those terrorist groups in anyway. Irish Republicans do just that every day and in every way

[@markspiers9969]

Not as many as the ira did to their own community

[@johnbutler3654]

this is a real scummy thing to do to innocent workmen and the people that done it rot in hell our where ever they go when they depart this life FUCKING COWARDS,god love all the victims

[@1888gp]

yeh like bloody sunday and the shankhill butchers

[@invisibleman4827]

@@1888gp Whataboutery isn't a good look, do better

[@vincentmcnabb939]

Kingsmill was wrong. No excuses. 🇮🇪

[@petercrawley7272]

He's totally right , all the unrepentant perpetrators will face GOD'S JUDGEMENT for the atrocities that they have committed on all sides.

[@Felix-rising]

Some so-called atrocities were committed to take out people that were ethnically cleansing the Protestant community and security forces

[@dannygallagher4074]

As a Republican I feel the deepest of sympathy for this man in losing his brother, and for all the families of the victims of Kingsmill. Kingsmill was wrong and should never have happened, and in my opinion it did not advance our cause one iota, but the reality is war is horrible, you will never get a conflict in the history of mankind where innocent people don't lose their lives, that's not to say it's right or justified but it's the sad reality That being said I think despite Martins past he played a crucial role in bringing peace to Ireland and steering the Republican movement away from violence People may disagree with me and I totally respect that, but people need to understand Martin and many others joined the IRA and fought back against an oppressor at a time when they were politically failed, there was no other alternative

[@jaypee6061]

This was not collateral damage in a war , but naked sectarian terrorism. Nothing else ....... There is always an alternative to violence...... the vast majority of people did NOT use violence..... Peace., as it is , was only accomplished through negotiations , not through violence.......

[@Felix-rising]

Don’t say it like it was the only indefensible thing they did. The IRA we’re gutless cowards who intimidated their communities, killed soft targets and squealed like pigs when they got a taste of their own medicine. The latter they still do to this day.

[@blueger5551]

How can you even call that war the ira killed those men because they were protestant ,sectarianism was what the ira were about suppose la Mon was part of they're so called war .

[@invisibleman4827]

Stop acting as an apologist for mass murder

[@Spook2431NYC]

It would hv cost nothing for MM to hv provided information to location of the still missing Disappeared to bring some peace to the families & he chose not to..didn't hv to name those involved just provide location info..

[@invisibleman4827]

McGuinness and fanatics like him never cared. In their ugly minds, their victims "deserved" to die and their families "deserved" to suffer

[@cambs0181]

The comments in this section you can see clearly here who experienced the troubles and those that did not!

[@ononewheellad]

I won’t ever speak ill of the dead, no matter who or what they were, that’s just me. For years he masterminded the deaths and destruction of so many lives, on both sides. However that said, he went on a journey no one ever thought would ever happen. And for that he does deserve recognition and credit. He was a settling influence around Derry when it was needed, and one that could definitely be used today.

[@invisibleman4827]

That's like calling Harvey Weinstein a 'women's rights hero' for kicking off #MeToo.

[@tjclarke1892]

A man deserves recognition and credit for stopping massacres and killings wow. Peace was a tactic, not the goal for irish Republicans

[@bonnie3447]

Tragedies on both sides.

[@seansweeney8911]

IRA did about three quarters of what was done. Keep that mind

[@jamie7708]

​@@seansweeney8911in cases of cillivans which was about 1,740-1,840....Loyalists was crueler....loyalist paramilitaries killed 826 innocent Cillivans, while republican paramilitaries killed 653 innocent Cillivans, where British forces like the British army killed 150+....ira mostly killed British forces members like RUC or British army...plus if you sign up to be in the British army you are willing to die

[@jamie7708]

According to information Ira was responsible for 1705 deaths out of the 3532 so its 48.25% of deaths, not 3 quarters of deaths that would be 2649 deaths

[@davesunderland1026]

@@seansweeney8911 Why does that matter, my family were killed for being catholic yet we hold nothing against anyone who did or did not do it, its over, its time for peace

[@maltesetony9030]

800 years of colonialism. Time to call it a day.

[@Blobby192]

All this because of a book of fiction and fantasy

[@roberthamilton2334]

That's your view ,if you think we came out of a big bang dream on in your fiction and fantasy. Be a man and question life and the planet you live on . Do you really think individuals don't answer for morally wrong behaviour and where did morals come from ?

[@ZKG754]

Things like this is never ok you know. Heroes do make mistakes apparently. Martin actually didn’t instruct to kill innocent people. It’s just his comrades.

[@invisibleman4827]

"Martin didn't actually instruct to kill people' If that's true, then the moon is made of cheese.

[@masonboyne5074]

Machine gun McGuiness Kneeled down before her Majesty and kissed her feet. We the Loyalist community accepted the unconditional surrender of the IRA. With love of course 💯

[@ballysilly4951]

well said..people shud not b applauded & even spoke of as a peacemaker just bcos they stop killing people..where did it get them..sharing power in a n i devolved government? he worked & got paid by British gov...informants got killed for that hahaha

[@AmsterdamagedHQ]

The IRA didn't kill people for simply being paid by the British government. They were killed for informing. Note the difference. Many prominent IRA men worked for British customs etc. Thats how they got their intelligence for certain operations.

[@invisibleman4827]

@@AmsterdamagedHQ Of coirse they killed people for being paid by the UK govt. There's tons of examples of this happening.

[@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883]

does this guy give a damn about the victims of the Shankill Butchers?

[@scooby1992]

I think he did mention the people that died on both sides .

[@invisibleman4827]

He's not obliged to bring them up when talking about the brutal murder of his brother in an ethnic cleansing campaign

[@1888gp]

@@invisibleman4827 have a day off fucking muppet

[@cillianholly9540]

Brits out now

[@P2K02]

Not leaving sorry

[@09weenic]

We are not leaving Gillian 😂 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@Blobby192]

Sorry we're here to stay

[@blueger5551]

Cilly were not going anywhere.

[@briday9107]

He is a peace maker what about Derry? My family were bustard's b4 they got shot!

[@liammellows-hz3pf]

Could you explain his Fraud allegations?

[@SiLoJayLo]

Who uploaded this? No-one can honestly say that life on Northern Ireland's streets hasn't greatly improved as a consequence of Martin McGuiness's involvement in the Good Friday Agreement, & his actions since then. The man in this film has every right to be angry. He lost his brother, & he will never be coming back. But for those who haven't lost relatives in the troubles of the past, what good do bitterness & grudges hold? They eat away - the most - at the people who bear them, & never at those responsible for injury &/or death. There are countless Tory politicians from Westminster who've acknowledged the part Martin played in the peace process!! Such plaudits from the Conservatives, for Martin McGuiness, were just inconceivable when I was growing up, in the '70s & early '80s.

[@andrewgoligher5749]

Fuck of he was a murdering bastard and paid m15 tout

[@andrewgoligher5749]

Dick what fuck you know

[@Tomdelongpenis]

@@andrewgoligher5749 ah yes m15 noted for supporting the ira

[@invisibleman4827]

"What good do bitterness and grudges hold?" Do you say that to the people who justify McGuinness's violence with their rhetoric about "Bloody Sunday/Famine/Black and Tans/800 years" or is it just for this guy whose brother was violently murdered by IRA extremist thugs? McGuinness deserves nothing but contempt and agreeing to no longer kill people doesn't make him a hero. The world is better off without him, and most of his victims' families would agree.

[@andrewstarbuck4492]

Cmarion price.

[@patc9687]

Thee difference was Irish republicans were fighting because the English soldiers got on a boat and invaded ireland. Same way Russians invaded the Ukraine. Martin was simply a freedom fighter. He was born and bred were he was fighting against an invading enemy force who didn’t know the history or counties they occupied. Yes it’s sad to loose loved ones but like the Russians that’s died for Putin? Why?

[@invisibleman4827]

That's a facile argument and you know it.

[@tjclarke1892]

Invaded ireland ? Your aware british forces first set foot in ireland at the request of a gaelic king to help him fight against one of the other gaelic kingdoms?

[@charliebridges3584]

I have human sympathy for how this man feels, after his brother was so callously murdered in Kingsmill by the IRA. But we have to acknowledge that a serving member of the Army in Northern Ireland at that time - a man named Jackson - was murdering innocent Catholics in Ulster with impunity. It takes two to tango.

[@dermotegan8940]

Straight White British Protestant straight!!!!

[@petercrawley7272]

2 wrongs don't make a right, that's what bred the hatred and recrimination in this country for decades!

[@charliebridges3584]

​@Straight White British Protestant Think for one second, shit-for-brains. Protestantism has nothing to do with being British. The founders of Protestantism were German and Swiss. Visit the Reformation Wall in Geneva some time. You might actually learn something.

[@amysands8925]

@@petercrawley7272 Takes two to tango What an answer. Murder is murder. It's wrong no matter what. No excuses.

[@scooby1992]

@@petercrawley7272 True and that is why the conflict lasted as long as it did , Many innocent civilians died on both sides . Those innocent Protestant men massacred at Kingsmill were apparently killed in retaliation for the murder of innocent Catholics the night before .We cant ever go back to those times . The same is true in the Israel / Palestine conflict .

[@ruger148]

They didn't get their squatters rights.

[@chriswatson3464]

This guys brother was killed by a different republican group.

[@shawnfinnegan64]

Mate. Come on

[@randomstuff4639]

The same group only under a different name

[@gabrielleolorunda9134]

Colin I'm in total agreement with you may he rot in hell he ruined my life my kids. lives !never said he was sorry. however he can't bullshit god xx

[@rianbradley3424]

Imagine invading a country and being surprised that the people fight back. Bigotry at its finest.

[@conorl9305]

Rian Bradley bear in mind this happened after 800 years of rape , murder and robbery by British heroes in uniform

[@conorl9305]

Gabrielle olorunda murdered 2000 innocents ? Where is the proof ?

[@gabrielleolorunda9134]

conor L ask tke victims!listen too news read a book y moron!

[@conorl9305]

Gabrielle olorunda well I can't ask the victims ? If murdered would they not be dead ? And how many innocents did the British Army kill and rape ? It's war , both sides are bad , let bigon be bigon

[@benmacdui9328]

British colonialism is the ultimate cause.

[@invisibleman4827]

Two wrongs don't make a right. How many 1845 famine victims sprang back to life after these men were shot? Just give me a rough guess, I'll wait.

[@paullinnane4396]

This guy is talking shite. Martin was a freedom fighter. He was a peacemaker. This guy talking shite. Martin didnt kill his brother

[@invisibleman4827]

MM was a mass murdering dirtbag who just stopped killing. Calling him a 'hero' is like calling Josef Fritzl a good dad for releasing his daughter from his cellar.

[@tjclarke1892]

A man who kills hundreds snd then sets down his gun when he is about to lose isn't a peacemaker.

[@ciarand2823]

Religion and hate... wherever you find one you’ll usually find the other lurking not far away

[@stolencupid]

Martin sits with the holy father. He is a Hero a Saint. The whole of ireland knows Martin was a peace maker. God bless him

[@1Jason]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@corettaha7855]

Condolences to the bereaved, but that doesn’t mean your politics are righteous.

[@conorfields506]

The NI statelet was a sectarian militarized police state which led to war hunger strikes etc

[@blueger5551]

Wasn't a war the ira were cowards .

[@tjclarke1892]

The hunger strikes were nothing more than murderers and terrorists committing suicide because they were treated like the shit they were

[@foxplayshd2904]

First

[@dhss333]

Martin was a man who had a journey and changed: he WAS ultimately a peacemaker. Is this a memorial to the 10 massacre victims or more generally the British military & connection? (1951, Monster Unionist Rally. etc.)

[@seansweeney8911]

Ye, a convenience journey. McGuiness, the snake that he was, has fooled you anyway. Colin Worton, by the way, is not some embittered Protestant, he had a person murdered.. it’s so clear that you never experienced the Troubles and don’t know the truth about it