APE Cam Chain Tensioner Install

[@mrtorres8837]

What about the oil part . Mines has a small metal stikin out when i take mines off. Gsxr 750 k8

[@Mototzigane]

I just got an APE manual CCT for my FZ09. I turned the bike on and started tightening it. The rattle gone away at one point, and I could still turn the nut by hand a bit more (about 1/4th to 1/2 a turn). You think that's a good tension? I rode it for about 20 minutes and the CCT nut got too hot to touch (bike was at about 190°F). Is that a sign of it being too tight? Should I loosen it a little? I'm thinking to back off, and stop exactly at the point where the noise goes away.

[@SnowDrift]

If I remember correctly. You turn it in until the noise goes away and then a 1/4 turn. Mine gets hot too.

[@abdou94rabza100]

@snowdrift My 06 CBR600RR sounds fine at idle, but « sometimes » it’s rattle around 5K to 6k rpm, I think mostly when bike is colder. Is it the CCT ???

[@SnowDrift]

Canada d’Alger Ok probably not, if it’s only happening when the bike is colder at higher RPM then most likely it is the valves, don’t rev it up when the bike is cold, odds are you just need a valve lash adjustment. Thanks for the comment.

[@Noel127]

Exhaust leak

[@NickMasseyRideon]

we are just about to do both of ours tensioners on our 02 tomorrow so this should be interesting

[@SnowDrift]

Nick Massey good luck

[@leitzalarm3209]

How strong CCT should be set? Is OK nnow but I hear chain again when engine is really hot more than 82C...

[@SnowDrift]

Piotr Zając I just adjusted it until the noise stopped.

[@SRTNavre707]

Hey I have a 2011 cbr600rr and the cct and bolts look the same as yours. I can’t get those two bolts off my 8mm wrench will barely lock on to the close bolt but it can’t get to the far one what do I do

[@SnowDrift]

I had to use a combination of sockets, swivels, and extensions to get mine out. If you’re having too much trouble try to reach it you may need to drop the engine down.

[@SRTNavre707]

@@SnowDrift I finally got it out and the new in. I rode it for a bit and there was no noise but then it started to rattle in first and second gear low rpms, do you know why that is?

[@SnowDrift]

@@SRTNavre707 is it adjustable? After everything heats up it expands

[@joshuagaspar1947]

@@SRTNavre707how did you get it out? I have 2012 so I’m having the same problem

[@Aparin66]

Hey. You can tell me about the manual chain tensioner .good or bad.how it works.better than the original?

[@SnowDrift]

Эдуард Апарин it’s the best replacement if the original has gone bad.

[@Aparin66]

@@SnowDrift Thanks for the reply.I also want to put this .since the original does not hold

[@rustywreck6631]

Hi do you have to set the bike to tdc to replace cct

[@SnowDrift]

Great question, it is not required but it is a good idea because, as you probably know, that is when the chain will have the most slack.

[@SnowDrift]

If you don’t set it to top dead center then you can just set the cct in the position that the chain is in and start the bike up and adjust it further until the noise is no longer audible.

[@thatonekidkeegan5097]

But what are the possibilities of throwing timing while taking the old cct out ?? I have a 05 600rr and took the cct out before tdc and am scared shitless to put the new one on and just start it, should I hand crank it a couple times or pull valve cover to see if I skipped a tooth 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MegaChevy65]

@@thatonekidkeegan5097 ThatOneKidKeegan i know this is old But for anyone with the same question..if you're worried about starting because you're wondering if the chain skipped somehow, you can take the crankshaft inspection cover off on the right side of the bike and rotate it manually a good 2 full rotations. If it binds up don't start it...instead start drinking heavily then decide if you are ready to take apart the bike and take on the project or sell it. Don't rotate it without any tension on the chain

[@yourview1944]

What about the one for the other side (engine bank)?

[@SnowDrift]

Your View there is only 1 timing chain.

[@caesarbedoya3759]

My power too this guys I’m using the same set up as far as tools on the same bike and it doesn’t seem possible too me

[@luckycollins1431]

I ended up using two extension or’s one swivel and one 5/8 socket and had to lift my gas tank up and run it that way. Got it out

[@0321ReconMan]

Did you loctite the nut? I hear that is important.

[@SnowDrift]

0321SHOOTER I did not, but I am going to have to adjust it soon and I’ll check it

[@yasharahlakgmshumblework733]

I have a 2005 Honda double around three 4,000 RPMs at rattles like a can BB's or something.somebody told me if you're going to replace the CCT you might as well replace the guides also people are replacing the CCT but they're not replacing the plastic guides that go in there that hold the chain from slapping around also you can put acct on there and the bike will still do it you will be standing there frustrated because now you have to go back in there and redo it all over again but sometimes. The guides are no good or the chain has stretched from someone messing with it if you have a used bike from 2005...remember people always make it seem easier than what it is if you don't know what you're doing let a professional do it you will mess aroundand throw your timing off if you do that there goes the rods and everything else and you don't want that to happen at a buck o five. Or when you're running from the cops. Just to be safe out there replace all of it in there then you won't have to worry about it for quite awhile spend the extra money it works and it's worth it.

[@fralixarms1685]

Yasharahla k Yudah I’d definitely replace the guides, I replaces those and the cam sprockets and the bikes been great for 3 years, hope this helps you.

[@angelodarkest944]

Whats the guides

[@yasharahlakgmshumblework733]

@@angelodarkest944 they are the plastic that keep the chain from slapping around they're called guides. They're on the timing chain also it looks like when you look at your chain and sprocket on the left side the chain rubs against a plastic guide on the timing belt has the same thing similar to that it's called the guide

[@rhyno9798]

Yeah. Thats the video im looking for. Guide replacement..

[@phoenixinsky7909]

Hi bro I have cbr1000rr 05 The issue m facing is ofcourse the rattling noise at idle engine..beside this , in 1st gear i feel some vibration till 3000rpm. After crossing 3000rpm bikes gets super acceleration suddenly and gets super smooth too. After watching ur video and reading some other forums i have come to the conclusion that i will install manual cam tensioner on my bike. So would do u suggest is the vibration issue till 3000rpm force me to go for manual CCT replacement or there is some other issue m missing ?? Snowdrift guide me 😁

[@SnowDrift]

Yes i would definitely go for the manual CCT, the vibration however is strange, it could be as simple as a wheel weight, but if you are having less power untill 3000 rpms then the power comes on it sounds like you may have an exhaust leak, or a fowling plug, bad coil pack, bad fuel, clogged fuel tank breahter, dirty injector, it could be alot of things really. I would do some troubleshooting.

[@phoenixinsky7909]

SnowDrift Brother... Let me tell u that i have put 04 new spark plugs. New oil filter, new oil (3.5 litres) Tuning done (cleaning of throttle body) New air filter. ALL DONE just 6 days ago. Just checked the exhaust leaks after ur rply. No exhaust leaks found. Now i am planning for new manual CCT (i think dats the last resort for me) And one more thing...can i buy manual CCT from aliexpress ? Bcz m living in pakistan and i cant buy stuff from amazon or ebay these days.

[@SnowDrift]

Renegade Phoenix yes you can get them on aliexpress.

[@itzbaconbruh8666]

@@phoenixinsky7909I would look into getting a dyno tune and deleted the secondary air system. That is the cause of the sudden power increase. The secondary air system moves a flap in the intake and allows more direct air in for more power. You will be deleting a few vacuum lines, 2 solenoids and installing 2 block off plates on the valve cover. This should get rid of that 3000rpm power jump.

[@Noel127]

Do you have after market exhaust? Sounds like your servo motor is still connected

[@SparkPlugSaviors]

How did you determine how tight or loose to put it when you first started it, I want to do it but I'm worried it will be too tight when I start it

[@SnowDrift]

Ryan Gotthardt I just turned the bolt by hand until I felt some tension. Started the bike. Then turned it with a wrench until the slap stopped. Then most guys turn the bolt a quarter turn after that and it should be good

[@SparkPlugSaviors]

@@SnowDrift okay thank you, I will be doing mine today

[@SnowDrift]

Ryan Gotthardt awesome. Let us know how it goes

[@SparkPlugSaviors]

@@SnowDrift it still makes the same sound , maybe it wasn't the cam chain

[@SnowDrift]

Ryan Gotthardt it could be an exhaust leak

[@SalemCBR1]

There are also ways to get the honda auto cct to reset. 🤔

[@SnowDrift]

SalemCBR as long as they are not seized yes. You can also buy a oem Honda replacement. For a bike this old I opted for the cheaper option.

[@SalemCBR1]

@@SnowDrift mine is a 14. The clicking went away after using a 2.00 screw driver to re set the spring in the cct.

[@SnowDrift]

SalemCBR I’ve seen some people have luck with that. Mine was too far gone.

[@modoudrammeh]

Hello snowdrift long time subscriber here I know you had to change ur guides..was this due to the manual cct? Also I think you made a video showing the black bits from the guides in your oil..I can never find it now

[@SnowDrift]

I don’t think it was, but I’m also not totally sure. I didn’t tighten the manual tensioner down very hard, I assumed the guides were tore up because of the old tensioner being too loose. Here is the video, about 3 minutes in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/npivcmuBa7qXidk

[@modoudrammeh]

@@SnowDrift Thanks for the reply brother! Yeah a need a manual cct for my blackbird ...always been against them but it's a no brainer...as long as its installed and maintained properly Have you still got it on your fire blade?

[@SnowDrift]

@@modoudrammeh yep. Going on 5 years now. I rarely adjust it. I check it maybe twice a year

[@Fadednights730]

Called 5 shops near me, $500+ at the least expensive location.

[@SnowDrift]

Wow that’s a rip

[@jimjam8948]

Your video here doesn't play after 3 seconds

[@SnowDrift]

Jim Jam it’s working fine on my end, other than refreshing the page I’m not sure what it could be. That’s the internet for you.

[@giocmer]

Ooooooooooooo...looks n sounds similar imma order one n let you know how it goes

[@SnowDrift]

Giovanni Merino awesome, I hope it helps

[@giocmer]

It help the noise, but finding out that the chain guard was getting beat up from the chain so I have to swap out.

[@SnowDrift]

thats what i had to do as well, go watch this video and you will see kzbin.info/www/bejne/npivcmuBa7qXidk

[@Drainingtheswamp2022]

I like your videos mate, but it doesn't show in any sort of detail how to do it, can't see anything

[@SnowDrift]

I know. My lighting wasn’t top notch 5 years ago. It’s really simple once you’re there looking at it.

[@Aridrona]

Warning to people doing this. The bike needs to be on top dead center first

[@SnowDrift]

Not really. It’s not going to make a difference. I’ve done this countless of times since I made this video, it’s years old at this point.

[@chriskillett8885]

Can you explain why you make this statement? Is it possible for the chain to fall away from the sprockets internally or the guide move? How do you find TDC, is it marked? I hears it needs to be on the compression stroke, how to find?

[@Aridrona]

@chriskillett8885 I do it with mine just to be safe keeps the chain tight.

[@kinglouis6974]

My 03 Cbr600rr don’t do that hmmmmm Thrash the tits off it , it’s the way forward