Apogee Symphony Desktop on Windows 10!!

[@migueld8970]

I sold my Twin for the Desktop. I love the extra separation I'm hearing now.

[@demon-ll9eg]

do u have the symphony desktop now and do u like it more than the twin ?

[@migueld8970]

@@demon-ll9eg Yes I do. I like the sound of the converters much better but I do prefer UAD plugins. I'll just get a card for that, however.

[@demon-ll9eg]

@@migueld8970 i have the rme babyface pro fs but thinking to get the symphony desktop

[@migueld8970]

@@demon-ll9eg you won't regret it

[@fattohead]

Which Twin version was that? Twin USB or Thunderbolt silver face (MK1), Blackface (MK2) , or Twin X (MK3) ?

[@diegooliveirabenjamin]

I would LOVE to see your review on the Apogee FX emulators. Great video man, thank you!

[@Decenium]

can def hear the difference instandly, good stuff

[@Prophet-hv6ut]

So useful! I was literally just abouta buy the Apollo Twin X QUAD and thank God I didn't

[@stonewhite7064]

Me too, I changed my order to Apogee now.

[@travenlee]

I haven't had any issues with my apollo on windows

[@pjeffries301]

@@travenlee Me either, mainly use Mac though.

[@kdelavirgen]

My whole rig is apollo and windows with other hardware and it runs perfectly fine on universal audio drivers

[@FilmIn5D]

I LOVE this interface! And apparently so do a lot of people because the price went up $200 MSRP, YIKES! I did have to return my original to b&h for an exchange as was directed by apogee since it was still in the return window. I will update once I've receive my repaired model or new model and once version 1.2 is out.

[@demon-ll9eg]

and please dont forget to make more test with sure sm7b thank you so much

[@nucentury08]

Got mine yesterday love it Industry standard is it has always been from the Big Ben to the Rosetta new update brings 2 new plugins you can run from the unit” GUI shows up on the touchscreen So nice😎🚀🚀

[@joncrowder1]

I saw the ECS channel strip looks great and can be run from the unit/touchscreen, but is there a reverb that can be run from the unit/touchscreen? Thx.

[@CarloEspresso]

Hi and thanks for your review. Can you use the "Symphony ECS Channel Strip" only for monitoring ? I just to add the high pass filter on mics, but I don't want to print it.

[@FilmIn5D]

I believe you will be able to do this with a future update

[@CarloEspresso]

@@FilmIn5D Thanks for your reply. A bit disappointing from Apogee. Do you know if there is a way to add a high pass filter on mics but only for monitoring ? ( sorry for my many questions, but the symphony caught my attention recently )

[@nucentury08]

Yes you can print ! I have the Beta 1.2 and 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾😎

[@CarloEspresso]

@@nucentury08 Hi Norton and thanks for your reply. Can you both print and monitor the ecs channel strip ? Cause right now I can only print the EQ to the signal.

[@nucentury08]

@@CarloEspresso so I can monitor and hear the changes pre” then record that to whatever Daw.

[@dimitrisss2009]

Thank you for the nice reviews. i m a professional and i want to buy either rme babyface pro fs or symphony desktop. Is the symphony stable enough on windows? And what if i want to run it with asio4all in my daw?

[@Lexxo777]

Thanks for the overview. I've had my eye on this one for a while. We're yet to see a real world review of driver performance, latency, track count with Cubase or Pro Tools etc. Does it have proper ASIO drivers or are they generic? How stable are they? Can we run as low as 64 samples? Shame about the screen, hopefully you get a replacement fast. Great that Apogee are rolling out the updates quickly.

[@Bilal-uj3hl]

dear . can u make comparison to apolo twin , RME UCX ii , Apogee Symphony plz ?

[@bowen827]

I do interested in learning FX print settings ~~~~I saw other youtubers have lots of pre-settings in their FX print to choose. But I dont have any....why's that?

[@andynonimuss6298]

Yes, the general consensus around the Web is for Windows users to stay away from Universal Audio drivers.

[@zadb2136]

great videos, please make more videos about the plugins of the symphony desktop

[@gphiproductions]

Good review! Thanks for sharing! 👨🏽‍💻 👍🏽

[@amonchhetri1053]

u mean it will run on my windows 10 pc usb-c?

[@GameNotesGN]

Super helpful thanks man

[@DBLCreations]

Wait, i have just bought the Apollo Twin and i can listen to my headphones as well as to my monitors at the same time... So not sure why you say it can't do this?

[@JustMe-ih3yw]

Facts idk why he said that.

[@FilmIn5D]

Yes it can now

[@DBLCreations]

@@FilmIn5D Well, i mean, this was 6 months ago of course.

[@KuvCover]

I got similar issue on Apollo twin x quad on my dell xps15 2019 made.

[@IhsaanS]

Why not just get the USB 3.0 Version of the Apollo? That has no problems on Windows.

[@Mrotheviking420]

Why doesn’t the symphony desktop have software control over everything like the console software with UA? I sent my Apollo back to get this but didn’t realize you have to be close to the device to work it ? Why isn’t there mistro like the other apogee products? I’m very unhappy hopefully with update 1.2 things will be different but I don’t it , I was misled when buying and to think the updates still aren’t here for what they claim this interface can do for almost two years now? Come on?

[@FilmIn5D]

Yep the updates are taking forever, I still can’t get OBS to recognize the symphony desktop

[@bplabs]

I had the exact same experience as you with the Apollo x4 and I may take your lead and get this. Do you know when 1.2 will be out? I just wrote them to ask if they have future plans for Impulse Response and Amp Simulation in there FX suite

[@DoctorNeyNey]

Hi FilmIn5D, Looking to pick up the Apogee Desktop and wanted to ask, how was their customer service for getting your screen fixing? Also any updates on the user experience, since making this video?

[@FilmIn5D]

Still very happy with this device. With the ONE exception of the lack of updates… been waiting for the next firmware forever. Also regarding there CS… it seemed fine but I ended up getting a brand new replacement through b&h since it was witching 30 days

[@DoctorNeyNey]

@@FilmIn5D Omg Thanks for the response! You rock!

[@lionelmaryboy2486]

I have issues with the knob freezing up, that's one issue I don't like about it. Other than that, its a great interface.

[@sitrix7203]

wait. whats the issue?

[@mubi4845]

how would you connect an external preamp ?

[@Tacitade]

Do you recommand symphony desktop for home mixing engineer?

[@theBbOoSSss]

obviously if u can afford

[@Singletonsaysvo]

Would you recommend this device for MacBook Pros as well?

[@FilmIn5D]

Absolutely!

[@nucentury08]

100% 🚀🚀🚀😎👌🏾

[@hectorfernandez743]

Hey, a question as far as converters and sound quality goes is it better than the Rme Babyface Pro Fs?

[@gusvelasquez292]

hey man, is there any way you could make a video explaining how to use the apogee for vocal recordings, idk what should I put for the input or output settings, its way more complicated since i never had to worry about the output setting before, just the input gain, what pre amp to use since it has 3, or if i should use the eq for the print fx and if so what to have them on? i would really really appreciate it, the thing is i am working on an ep and i want the most quality i could possibly get, i upraged from an at2020 and a scarlet focusrite 2nd gen to an apogee symphont desktop and a u87 and for some reason the at22020 and focusrite takes sound better so i for sure know im doing something wrong, i can pay you idc, do you have an email i could contact you? i really really need your help man, Thank you

[@edwardbrands3271]

Can you use a usb 3.1 port with the cable included?

[@FilmIn5D]

Yea as long as it’s usb a

[@aro7975]

How would you compare this to an RME Babyface Pro if you've ever used it?

[@FilmIn5D]

I haven’t sorry. But a lot of PC users like the RME. I think the pre amps are better on the symphony, and it also has better support for native plug ins. But the RME also has more inputs natively.

[@aro7975]

@@FilmIn5D Sorry, I already have the Babyface Pro (non FS variant) . I was looking at the symphony as an upgrade to drive my DT1990 pros better and for an sm7b. Thanks very much for the reply.

[@iletaMarchita]

I DONT UNDERSTAND, IT HAS USB C PORT? (AND COMES WITH A USB -C. TO USB-C CABLE?) thanks

[@FilmIn5D]

It has both

[@djunderpar04]

Can you tell how to get the microphone to record vocals

[@orangemaniabrother2232]

Hi, could you tell me if this would work ok with an i5 laptop 8gb RAM, just asking because it says i7 in system requirements on their site, I don't know if this means it's unusable for me

[@FilmIn5D]

I’m not 100% sure but AFAIK this thing doesn’t use too much cpu, the whole point is that it does a lot of the processing itself and actually reduces the burden on the cpu. So I’m sure your i5 will be just fine

[@nucentury08]

You need to format the USB ex Fat3

[@AmandaBlackRose]

Hey great video. Were you able to compare the sound between the two?

[@FilmIn5D]

Thank you. I no longer have the Apollo twin.. but when I compare the tests I did with it from a few months back to my tests with the symphony desktop now, it does sound a bit better. But I only tested vocals and didn’t get around to testing instruments

[@DarkPa1adin]

my id14 L R output are reversed too!

[@demon-ll9eg]

can u plz do more sound test with sm7b and make it longer a little bit 44100 24bit + 48000 24 bit plz

[@Gowla]

I got an Apollo Twin USB used recently, and watched some of your videos :) My uses are fairly similar. The WDM limitations are annoying but an easy trouble free solution to this for me was using Nvidia RTX voice which assuming is active will down mix the 22 channel WDM device windows see's into a 2 channel stereo mix. If you don't want the noise supperession just put the slider to zero but keep the processing on. This in turn makes it usable when simply doing voip. It would be nice if we just got proper WDM support. As many applications on windows don't use ASIO. I also tried Asio pro link, but the stablity was not good enough. It also annoys that basic plugins like an expander gate are not included, this is the case for apogee, uaudio and antelope audio. As for streaming and voip getting the load off the pc is beneficial as RTX voice begins to artefact when GPU is under load. Motu interfaces have some fixed dsp effects, that include a gate but no expanders. Pairing the Twin USB with BP40 Microphone has been a great upgrade to my evo 4 and aston stealth, the BP40 is worth checking out. Both were bought used, and cost to change won't be far off after selling the old stuff. The DSP effects do work great, and no latency issues even when passed through RTX voice to down mix. Not looking forward until my trials run out and I have to decide which plugin to use for downward expander.

[@dpdpdpdp123]

heard it's flaw is monitor LR located wrongly

[@FilmIn5D]

Yes I wonder if they can swap them digitally with a firmware update

[@coin777]

Did You return the Apogee Symphony Desktop?

[@FilmIn5D]

I did return it for a new one at no cost to me. Still using it and loving it, though I'm patiently waiting for some feature updates.

[@maxx_thor]

Do we know if working with Windows 11. i have issues as i upgrade to w11, got sound out of the unit, but cannot upgrade unit via usb at the back and also apogee control is on waiting for device message unable to connect to the unit

[@FilmIn5D]

I’m holding off on w11 tbh

[@maxx_thor]

@@FilmIn5D my room correction sonarworks is not supported and now having issues with Apogee desktop. i might rollback to w10

[@alejandroavila2701]

the interface can connect to pc with usb A cable?

[@FilmIn5D]

Correct

[@alejandroavila2701]

​@@FilmIn5D thanks for the reply, have you tried this USB-A connection? Do you find a difference to the USB-C connection? I plan to buy it

[@FilmIn5D]

@@alejandroavila2701 to be clear you use the usb-c input on the back of the device, and then it came with two cables, usb-c to c and usb-c to a, either of these will have the same performance as they are only usb 2.0

[@jbkivontop]

you have or had both the Apollo Twin and now the Apogee. . As far as sound quality, what one to you prefer?

[@FilmIn5D]

I like the apogee more

[@migueld8970]

I sold my Twin for the Desktop. The symphony has more separation and you can hear much more subtleties..

[@BanderaFilmsAndMusic]

Recommending the Twin to save money is for people who don't care about quality.

[@jamespark1582]

is that support asio direct monitoring?

[@_JohnnySav]

With the Apogee ASIO driver and their Maestro app the short answer is yes!

[@allkindsofthings673]

USB-C is still USB not as good as thunderbolt which is straight into the motherboard like pcie

[@FilmIn5D]

except that thunderbolt 3 on PC is sketchy at best in terms of drivers and reliability

[@allkindsofthings673]

@@FilmIn5D not presonus quantum

[@rockerbottlevideo]

I would say buyer beware. The Symphony desktop preamps are overly colored and basically just distortion. The real reviews are coming in. These are NOT Symphony converters as advertised. The interface is buggy and it simply doesn't sound good. Do a blind test. The Symphony desktop is not a good sounding interface.

[@purpletusksful]

sources?

[@JACØBSOUNDRADIO]

CAP

[@lastcall9998]

Lol, it does sound distorted. I wouldn't believe the Gearspace forum comments until I watched this video. Glad I won't buy this pos. (Using an Adi-2 DAC by RME, which is supposed to be top notch).