Apollo Studio Makeover: How to Set Up Multi-Unit Apollo Studio

[@kstevegeorge]

Watching these kinds of videos from UAD always inspires me to get back in my studio and write and track some music with my apollo.

[@steveg219]

Listening to this band I think settles the issue of whether or not "digital" is good enough, it sounds awesome

[@Markpianist1]

All I have to say to that is what color is better Yellow or Red? Iv'e worked with all the old equipment, UAD sounds authentic to me!

[@fredmanteghian5913]

Agree but they did use a tape plugin :)

[@GabrielXDrums]

dynabomb then just push the drive harder, sometimes it needs a hotter sweet spot.

[@GabrielXDrums]

Balex Strand not mastered, it’s tracked but has tape.

[@morten1]

Singer: "I can't hear myself"...... Producer: "Cool" :D

[@becalm3459]

Just bought Apollo 8p. I love it.

[@BluesNMemphis]

The talent shined!

[@NicoIasTravolta]

lel

[@speakrmusic4811]

No doubt that this have been mixed and processed afterwards. However its nice to have some real decent music in an audio demo for once :)

[@ashtonlangston4490]

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[@milankylan7037]

@Ashton Langston Instablaster =)

[@ashtonlangston4490]

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[@ashtonlangston4490]

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[@milankylan7037]

@Ashton Langston No problem :D

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

I love Fab's tutorials.. I learn so much about the UA eco system. I'm jumping in.. LUNA!!

[@ErazedFX]

Nice song & video !

[@JMLRecording]

Another great video. I love that he ditched that “meh” neve 55 and has an argosy halo type desk. I did the exact same thing and have almost his same setup prior to ever seeing this video! The world is a-Changin’!

[@applemarkwantsvids]

Really good song! NICE!

[@mcmSEA]

This is fun, but as another commenter said: Not really any info about *setting up* multi-unit Apollos once you have that. I came here looking for how to make a specific Apollo device in the chain the monitor unit/ master. Two hours later, buried in the manual, I found that you need to *drag the Apollo unit you want to be master to the top of the list* in Console Settings/ Hardware to make it the master! That's not intuitive/ basically a hidden feature! Leaving this comment here for others who may have the same issue.

[@UniversalAudio]

Thanks Michael, glad you found it. It's mentioned within the first 3 paragraphs of the Multi-Unit Cascading portion of the manual.

[@mcmSEA]

@@UniversalAudio Thanks, but (a) not mentioned here: help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/205927139-Apollo-Thunderbolt-Multi-Unit-Cascading- and (b) there's no indication at all in the UI about how to do that... bad UX design. A little speaker icon appears next to the master/monitor unit, but you can't click it on/off nor click it on for another unit. And adding a second unit automatically makes the added unit the monitor which is also very weird! Awkward.

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

Thanks Bro!!!

[@AnAmericanGuitarist]

I was hoping to see a video of the actual ins and outs on the wiring, then on to the set up on the monitor and then on to the recording project. I always prefer seeing things done than reading about them. I enjoyed this video though.

[@UniversalAudio]

👍

[@jolyoncox]

Love Fab and love Apollo. Thanks!

[@JAY542VMS]

It's time for UA to bring in the game a control surface ! Console 3.0 !!!

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

Dude!! I was just talking to my Sweetwater Rep about that.. That's the only missing piece to the puzzle! Say 1) One with built-in Thunderbolt interface, Pres.. 2) Just a with Thunderbolt or Ethernet with 8/16/24 faders..

[@martinbreeson9637]

Is that guitarist Mic Murphy from the The System?

[@GearZenChannel]

Love the ham radio talkback mic!

[@MediaMusik777]

One grip ...why is not a master post/pre fader on the output meters ?I have to patch in on a stereo aux ?

[@smilecome1]

This whole process is just an epic. From intro to pro just like that, amazing. BTW the song is Great !

[@AaronSprinkleMusic]

This is awesome

[@archiebird6276]

does adat input still work in the combined apollo system? For example if I had a apollo x6 and an apollo twin, with a focusrite 18i20 acting as a slave to the apollo x6 via adat, would I get all the i/o available in my daw?

[@UniversalAudio]

Yes.

[@archiebird6276]

@@UniversalAudio thank you!!!

[@UniversalAudio]

You got it!👍🏻

[@kellylave13]

Classic Studio. Cool band... Love it. Cheers!

[@CmathTV]

Came here looking for a proper tutorial for setting up 2 UA Apollo 16 units with protools for 32x32 I/O and it explained nothing.

[@findlaywalker3296]

CmathTV have u found anything yet?

[@kylechumchal]

Fab has a good heart

[@blkbird]

Can anyone spell out the name of the talkback microphone he mentions around 8:40 mark, please?

[@blkbird]

Found it. It's a Shure 522.

[@billbaumiester6764]

Fab is a self taught sound engineer? Wow !

[@jKHAHN215PA]

Why would the Neve and Studer plug-ins not be explained they can be bussed so that it uses less dsp for those of us who don’t have (4) apollo X8 with a Twin X?

[@HellfireBeats]

Incredible! Now bring on that Console 2 for FW!!!

[@SluTubeTV]

Can I use with a MacBook Pro 14 inch 2021?

[@PeoplesChoiceofficial]

whats the song ? And to use Apollo i need a special systen and computer ? It works with Ableton as well ?

[@UniversalAudio]

Sun-Kissed Lover by DEDE. Here's a link to Apollo Twin's System Requirements: help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/206502263-Apollo-Twin-System-Requirements You can find the requirements for all other products on uaudio.com.

[@Juan6K]

@Universal Audio 16:39 is that Jitter? How can you improve those clocking errors?

[@vasileiospgr]

10:05 Bannanaz!

[@steveg219]

I use an old Apollo silver TB, a new 8p and a satellite spread out in a large roomwith Corning optical TB cables, it's stunning

[@GaganSinghMusic]

Im curious, in your multi-unit setup, does the Apollo 8p's D/A conversion end up being used when you bounce a mix, or the Apollo Silver (older one that didn't have as great D/A conversion as the newer Apollos).?

[@steveg219]

@@GaganSinghMusic there is a small difference between the different generations of UA hardware. When outputting to analog I always try to use the latest model I have. This is true when recording also, I will use the newest UA converter channels first

[@therealdjap]

Amazing as usual.

[@chacra6studios79]

I LOVE DUPONT

[@dannylharper6889]

Love this.. Thanks.. I have Apollo 16 and Apollo Twin

[@UniversalAudio]

👍

[@jKHAHN215PA]

What microphone is that she’s singing into

[@GrodekMusic]

How can I get that sweet guitar tone in the verse. Please help me....I´d love to know :0

[@ArmadaMultimedia]

Wow, amazing work flow. great info and video.

[@gatlinproduction]

Question? What is your Red Sound Proofing made out of. Or can I just make this on my own or where is a good place to look for such sound proofing.

[@adamphillips6747]

If I purchase an X6 are the preamps on my Twin still active? I can't find this info anywhere.

[@UniversalAudio]

Yes they are. When you add the x6, the driver will aggregate the two units together for you, and all I/O and DSP will be available.

[@CjSaabRecords]

nyc room buddy

[@GeeksPlayOfficial]

Guys, what kind of effect is used on the vocals in chorus section??

[@guitari-guitartuition1369]

Just triple tracked

[@pigpog2307]

Sounds like a little bit of Eventide

[@Yannickl96]

Anyone know if I could use the UA plugins also on the ADAT inputs? AFAIK the Unison preamps only work on the analog inputs of the interface. Great stuff and cheers!

[@UniversalAudio]

yes, you can use any plugin on an ADAT input. You don't get the benefits of Unison, but otherwise you're good to go. 👍

[@Yannickl96]

@@UniversalAudio So I just put the Preamp plugin in the insert slot of the corresponding channel und "lose" one fx input of the channel, right? Thanks for your answer :)

[@UniversalAudio]

Correct!

[@Yannickl96]

@@UniversalAudio Thank you ever so much! Will definitely upgrade as soon as I have the budget :D

[@UniversalAudio]

👍

[@lucasjuniorproducer]

Hi there...Im writing from Portugal, congratulations on your channel, i love UA. I have a question if you can answer me or help. I saw a video about adding 8 adat inputs to the Twin, so my problem is that i have my Apollo quad firewire connected and im using a Focusrite Scarlet 18i20 usb as Adat extra inputs...They are connected Adat in to out and Out to in on my Apollo quad Firewire. Its working fine but my question is about the clock. When i set the Ua Apollo Quad as master i can ear pops and digital picks sometimes... and when i set the focusrite as master and Ua Apollo as Adat sync Slave is working very fine, no more clicks or digital annoying sounds... So its the focusrite scarlet 18I20 better clock then UA Apollo Quad firewire? Or there is a trick to do to prevent this and use my Apollo as a Master clock?Thank you

[@UniversalAudio]

Hi Lucas, clocking often requires experimentation to find the right combo. Seems you've found the right combo for your situation. Quality of clock has nothing to do with experiencing clicks and pops. The differences in clocks are far more subtle than that. Hope this helps.

[@jermainesmith6315]

love that song!!!

[@leopordojr]

I am in doubt in creating a setup for my studio . I really liked the sound of apollo . this time I use a duet2 apogee . but I need to expand my studio . you know if you already have some comparison of the simulated prés for her and the original ? It has a lot of sound color difference ? someone would know me indicate which combinations to type apollo + 710d Twin to have a good sound?

[@universemediallc]

INCREDIBLE

[@jambam6176]

I liked the dry signal of her voice better when she tested the mic.

[@leopordojr]

I am looking to buy a apollo 8p but I have a doubt . why not recorded voice using the apollo 8p ? the preamp of 8p is not good for voice?

[@sbroadbentphoto]

They are all the same preamps

[@leopordojr]

I am in doubt in creating a setup for my studio . I really liked the sound of apollo . this time I use a duet2 apogee . but I need to expand my studio . you know if you already have some comparison of the simulated prés for her and the original ? It has a lot of sound color difference ? someone would know me indicate which combinations to type apollo + 710d Twin to have a good sound?

[@chriskilmer2781]

Does anybody know what studio desk they are using? I like the layout quite a bit.

[@tabudnb]

I was thinking the same thing about the layout of the desk. It's looks like it's a Sterling Modular. Possibly a Plan-D conversion.

[@louderthangod]

They should make a mini-console or like 8 of those Apollo Twin knobs.

[@nobodyhome3753]

haha that'd be awesome to have the 610 knob on the twin.

[@longway7774]

what is the keyboard at 16:12?

[@neezusbrist8188]

What headphones are good too use?

[@tomaszmusic]

If you think that recording and mixing is as easy as in this commercial and you can have a song in 20 minutes you are very wrong...

[@kstevegeorge]

Not if Al Schmitt was at the helm

[@furryz666]

Tom Piotrowski that's Fab magic

[@danieleanzanello]

Moreover it seems that there are three different vocal in the mix : one in the center and one panned left and one right. So ... no live recording. If does exist a plugin that creates this effect from a unique vocal take in this natural (and pleasing) way i really want to know the name of it !! btw love UAD stuff

[@tomaszmusic]

This is not a magic. There is a certain work to do and it takes time... And it's not in this video :/

[@zagan1]

??? Have plenty of videos on youtube and the net of people pumping out tracks under 20 mins. Some people have the knack for doing music and pumping songs is nothing. a few examples Mick Jagger's pop album written in a week, whole album done in a few months. That blew away U2's bono who spends years sometimes trying to write 1 song. David Guetta, had a rapper chris brown I think begging him to do a song for over a year, ends up he was in France 1 night for a party, David ends up calling him says he has something ready to go and he has 15 mins to get to the studio. So chris manages to make it, then david says here's the words, then 10 mins later the track was cut and good to go. Some people have it and smash it out like it's nothing, others can get by but it takes ages or is too hard to get things done and give up.

[@antiHUMANDesigns]

Mmm, might get myself an Apollo, at some point, to back up my Apogee Trak2.

[@Risenson]

Does anyone know if they"re going to make more USB 3.0 interfaces. I'm a windows user...

[@zicmanislord]

I use an apollo twin thunderbolt on Win10 with a Z170X UD5 TH mobo with a startech adpater. Everything works great in Reaper. No crashes. Apollo twin usb is there with the same latency than thunderbolt but for me thunderbolt is the future. Next computer generation are built for USB type C (thunderbolt). Just read UAD website for more information about thunderbolt or usb on Windows.

[@gavinharris575]

what mic is that

[@BMOZoedajit]

what microphone did they use for the vocals ?

[@erimahmet4461]

whats the mic being used for dede

[@Dustykeybkards]

Lauten audio atlantis

[@seanodwyer5536]

im done calling you guys in LA im sorry I have to do this

[@shaungaida4500]

I have an apollo 8p and want to use a neve 1073 on each of the 8 inputs as well as the studer A800 on each of those 8 channels. When I go to put the Studer A800 plugin on all 8 channels (after having instantiated the 8, 1073 unison pres), when I try to load it up on the 4th of 8 channels I get a message saying "One or more UAD plug-ins have been diabled. The plug-in was unable to load because a console channel's DSP limit is exceeded." I also have an apollo Twin and apollo 16 so I have only actually used 42% of my DSP resources according to the apollo DSP meter. Can someone from UA please explain how this is an acceptable issue when I have spent over $5000 on UA gear! Come on UA sort this out! I love the plugins but this is borderline false advertising here.

[@Llegomatea]

amazing ...

[@JulianFernandez]

Fab is so full of himself it´s just funny...

[@Nullllus]

He's French. Whatrugonnado?

[@JulianFernandez]

Dafuq are you talking about? Disrespectful. Plenty of french guys that are confident enough not be pretending all the time... Peace.

[@Nullllus]

JulianFernandez -_- Take a chill pill.

[@JulianFernandez]

I´ll take a chilly pill. Dont dare me, man. Don´t dare me.

[@manuelxavier5659]

He's French that's the problem

[@markbmedia]

Mic Murphy on guitar. Cool...

[@MrCamwilliams7]

Export settings pleeaaasse! Somebody anybody!

[@shadychat]

Hi could someone help me please? I just chained my apollo twin with my apollo 8 so that i can have 1 extra output (line 3/4 of the twin) but when opening the console setting, that output in question isn't showing up in the output section. (only mon L/R and the virtual outputs...) What can I do to make it appear?

[@UniversalAudio]

Hey Shady, maybe this is your issue? A quote from this page-help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articles/205927139-Apollo-Thunderbolt-Multi-Unit-Cascading- "(Apollo Twin) When Apollo Twin is used as an expander unit, the Line 3/4 outputs of the Apollo Twin do not appear in the Core Audio driver. Audio can be routed to these outputs via the cue mix routing in Console (accessed via the Cue Outputs popover)."

[@shadychat]

@@UniversalAudio yes that is my issue thanks! so when I open the cue outputs popover what should i click on in order to route audio to line3/4 of the twin? i'm a bit confused

[@UniversalAudio]

@@shadychat They're only available as Cue outputs. So you can assign any Cue you like to them.

[@motionlessjaredful]

lauten Audio Atlantis :)

[@lynyx77]

The singer Is Called DEDE BIRD and the song name is "Sun kissed lover"

[@RiceMan88]

Can’t seem to find her ANYWHERE. How can I get a hold of her music??

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

Nice But a Big Commitment / Money investment to only be Abel to use UAD/your Plugins With the system Waves Digigrid is Letting Third Party Plugin Companies with there interfaces so you Can Use Plugins From Other Vendors and Still Take advantage of DSP Power

[@slamcrank]

It's not really the same. Waves is basically playing catch-up to UAD in this area. First of all, there is the matter of UAD's Unison technology, which uses the Console application to actually change impedance levels, etc. of the physical hardware inputs on the Apollo. Waves doesn't have anything like that. As such, Waves has very little chance of the accuracy-of-sound that UA has. Secondly, if you're familiar with analog consoles, UAD's app has a much more intuitive layout. And thirdly, I currently know of zero "third party" companies that are coding for Waves' product. (while there are actually third party developers making fantastic plugins for Apollo such as Softube, Brainworx, etc that can work in real time with the Apollo)... so yeah, it's kind of not even close to comparison.

[@Markpianist1]

Not a big investment at all compared to Avid hd. You get the same sound quality and DSP power for way less. So, I just bought one.

[@Markpianist1]

No. It is cheaper than Avid and sounds just as good. I've heard them both back to back. BTW You don't need to buy their plug-ins, they give you free ones with the purchase. Then you can buy other manufactures. I'm talking about A/D. That is quality. Besides, UAD has major discounts for people who own the equipment that is not apparent on the website. Once you sign in they give you big discounts. They have given me $300 free in Plug-ins by coupons. So I got the La-2a collection and the 1176 collection for free!! So again I wouldn't post unless I had all the facts, I mean you made this post and you obviously don't own a model and I do. So there is no comparison UAD wins if you are serious about making records! Also Rednet is fabulous but no plug-ins come with it.

[@joemohmma3145]

FRANK R ICE COLD

[@Markpianist1]

I use Waves also. However, Waves does not make converters and preamps. I'm pretty impressed with the Apollo when put up against the Avid HD system, the quality is great. That is what I was referring.

[@RobertWardDavidson]

Other guy: “ok”

[@billbaumiester6764]

This guy. Huh?

[@madified766]

"Bananas" lool

[@martijnvanspaendonck7989]

Nice acting.

[@masphelion]

Better give us firewire console 2.0 and windows thunderbolt 2 support.

[@UniversalAudio]

Good news! Console 2.0 software for single-unit Apollo FireWire systems is now in beta, with a target release of November 2016. We appreciate the massive patience our FireWire users have extended us, as this was indeed a very complex driver-level development effort for our product team. Please stay tuned. It really is right around the corner, and it’s proving to be strong and stable in our extensive testing.

[@Risenson]

How about more USB 3.0 units?

[@Yohahn]

Focusrite did a thing on their website that explained something that USB isn't better for audio then usb 2 or something like that i can't remember exactly what they wrote.. EDIT: Found it. I Quote! "Firstly, although USB 3.0 offers greater bandwidth than USB 2.0, it will deliver no round trip latency benefits over USB 2.0. This is due to the architecture of the host computer driver stack and its handling of USB audio (isochronous) data. The stack schedules data transfers to and from audio drivers at millisecond frame intervals which means that, no matter how fast the data moves over the USB bus, this defines the limit on minimum latency achievable. A good analogy is to think of it as a drainpipe and a tennis ball. The tennis ball is the data and the width of the pipe signifies available bandwidth. With the drainpipe set at the same gradient, letting go of the ball at the top of the drainpipe will see it arrive at the bottom in a given amount of time. That's your latency, the time it takes to go from end to end. USB 3.0 offers a much wider pipe, which in terms of the analogy, means that it could allow a greater number tennis balls (more data) to travel down the pipe, but the balls would not travel down the pipe any faster. This is the same when comparing USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 in terms of the way they transfer audio data. "

[@guikatinskas]

UA: cause everybody spend $900 on a interface just to use it as a monitor control/talkback

[@JJDPROMEDIAPRODUCTION]

I was thinking the same thing, but then Fab stated that each UA unit is added to the total sum.

[@renthal971]

Delay, Compression, Back Rub...

[@seanodwyer5536]

oh cool more work and renaming everything again that would be great if the business had enough economy to have an assistant . Because i really really really ! love labeling for hours and hours everytime ...the more you can change the more time the system forces you to waste and the less money you have the possibility of making..a track sheet would be great one document on one page i can open that has all notes instead of thirty hidden micro predefined options hiding everywhere. I would like to know how to work it not how good it is Ive ALREADY BOUGHT it. and I dont need to hear anything recorded on any of these videos ever how does the routing work not how great is it

[@GRequinBlanc]

Backrub!

[@СергейУличныйатлетизм-горизонт]

"ssssss - ccccccccc" a lot of sibilants in recording! They just clog the top of your voice and can be heard in the mix is nasty!

[@ogsamosa]

'no latency' uad plugins have more latency than any other plugin i use, from my experience i use an apollo 16 mkii over thunderbolt 2 at 96khz, running in console any configuration i try is unusable in the real world

[@UniversalAudio]

Hi Sam, could you submit your issues with Customer Support? We'd like to learn more about what you're experiencing and see what we can do to help. Thanks!

[@ogsamosa]

sure, can you please help me with some information for this thread: tracking 6 channels with a Studer A800 on each channel in console (UAD rec) @ 96khz will induce how many milliseconds of latency? I think then you'll see my problem

[@eds.productions]

Probably because fab was working with 14 dsp chips for live recording vs the 4 in the quad you’re most likely using . Need a lot of horse power to run that many studers, especially in 96. I’m surprised you didn’t just get uad errors.

[@GabrielXDrums]

sam steeno you dumb. Get DSP.

[@Miaouss483]

« Ok »

[@seanodwyer5536]

this video has zero technical details its an infospam

[@manuelxavier5659]

Fab is so full of himself

[@ervinsuarez]

what are you using to link to the control rooms????