Christian Talks to Two Mormon Elders Part 1

[@freshofftheboat4305]

Great job Preston. I was a Mormon for over 20 years. I am now a born again Christian as of six months ago. When I heard him deny the belief that Mormons can become gods, I was shocked. This is literally one of the main tenets of Mormon doctrine (the principle of exaltation). Anyways, I appreciate your approach in how you relay the Gospel. Your Grandmother gave you some wise advice when it comes to showing people that you care. If you ever need further insights into the Mormon religion, feel free to reach out anytime. Stay blessed my brother!

[@freshofftheboat4305]

Kevin Johnson Thank you my brother. It’s a blessing to finally be apart of the family!

[@KS-rd6sf]

Welcome to the family! God is joyful and proud!😇

[@freshofftheboat4305]

KS 101 😊🙏

[@chadnz1003]

Jump on board brother! Need your help to bring the mormons to JESUS👑😊

[@freshofftheboat4305]

Kim Cha Amen, I hear ya!!!

[@abrahamochoa3522]

2 mormons came to my door a while back, they talked to me about Jesus and his salvation so I assumed they were in Christ. However they did give me a free book. The book of mormon. They told me it was a way to connect to Jesus, I wasnt really connected to Jesus then so I thought it was good and by all means I took it. I never read it but recently as I am trying to live with Christ, they messaged me and we did some bible studies here and there. They did tell me to read that book and I thought it was okay since I thought it was a way to connect to Jesus and to know Jesus. I ran into this video in the middle of the night and it isnt a coincidence. This is God telling me that the book of mormon is false and I should not enter that path. I have been praying that he guides me and this is him guiding me. I will stick to the bible because that is the TRUE word of God. God got me! God bless everybody 🙏🏼

[@jlewis8145]

John 10:27-29 God bless you.

[@josemontero9137]

First of all, We are not mormons, we are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Mormon was a prophet, people used to call us as a nick name, but we are not mormons.

[@abrahamochoa3522]

Jose Montero Okay, sorry to offend you. Who is “we” you are talking about then? What do you call yourselfs if I can ask?

[@sweetcaroline7409]

abraham ochoa Amen!

[@camdenwaite7434]

abraham ochoa he said it lol. What people classify as a “Mormon” is truly a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or members of the LDS Church. I don’t find it a huge deal that people consider members of the church to be called “Mormons”, however the premise of correcting people is so others can understand that Christ is the base of the church.

[@jacobaguado8928]

"People don't care what you know, until they know that you care." That's so good and true

[@joanlantis4497]

59 yr old past mormon.thank you preston for your patience with these two young mormons.your knowledge of the true gospel of Christ and the amazing way you articulate your beliefs warm my heart.

[@stepstep0302]

This has shown me why it’s important for us to understand our faith for ourselves and not just to articulate it in a way to sell it to others. We have to be a people who understand what we believe to our core. I believe this produces a peace and confidence in the midst of those who disagree. Great channel!

[@yolandashaw2940]

Yes my thoughts show thy self approved

[@MatthewPlatz]

Stephanie, that was perfectly said.

[@Simplyraechelle]

Amen !

[@samuelstephen2762]

PSA: Preston was interrupting quite a bit here because a lot of times the kid went off on a tangent, trying to create connections that didn't exist. It's an effective debate tactic that's taught along with doctrine, often through example from leaders/elders, rather than outright instruction. Preston was just trying to make sure the conversation didn't go in circles or address questions that weren't asked or relevant to the discussion. Preston, keep it up bro! Praying for the Holy Spirit to empower you further for God's glory. Do you know when the next part will come out, approximately?

[@androidqmusic1023]

Thanks for clearing that up for me, I need to learn how to graciously interrupt people here in Raleigh NC. I let too many people take me down rabbit trails

[@godzshadow9001]

I was doing the same thing watching this. The talking elder never truly answered a question. Also he referred to my HOLY Bible way more than his book.

[@richardbaker6862]

thank you for your reply, I too was waiting for the answer..But in my experience Mormons always dance around the question and come to an Mormon conclusion, without answering the question.

[@richardbaker6862]

@Jonathan Soko not only that but Brigham Young himself said that being a Mormon wasnt for black people.

[@otischeowens3249]

I TOTALLY AGREE. Disclaimer: I'm a born agiain believer, and absolutely love how Preston defends the faith. (^_^) My only observation and challenge to him is that his interjections must flow after he allows someone to complete a full literal sentence. Preston asks the young mormon to let him complete his thought, AFTER he (Preston) interjects the young man mid sentence....That is cutting off. Not only does he cut him off, " he says I don't mean to cut you off" and then mentions "I know what you're saying"....we can not know what a person is going to say until they actually say it... To say that he's "directing the conversation" implies that there is a "flow"...the tangent can only be traveled upon only when a thought is allowed the permission to complete itself......it was not consistent on both sides. This "dialogue" leaned heavily into a "monologue". It's NOT that Preston's points are wrong (they are absolutely true), the delivery however was a bit stunted. Allowing them to finish their sentence will not dilute The Truth of The Gospel. Just an observation from a fellow apologist.

[@thinkoffbeat]

God bless you Preston, really appreciate your boldness to get into these conversations. Thanks for sharing, keep it up and stay encouraged!

[@audis4fastisgood375]

God bless. I left the Mormon church and got baptized a Christian last year on Easter and my brother followed. I am grateful for the love you shown and for your knowledge of the Bible which is Gods word and true gospel. Much love, praise God

[@dylanwilliams2202]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Join God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and join their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.

[@Blaaake]

@@dylanwilliams2202you sound like more of a bot than actual bots on KZbin. Leave the heretical cult brother. They have put scales over your eyes and ears.

[@lawrence1318]

@@dylanwilliams2202 You don't know the Lord personally. You only know a concept, a doctrine, an idea. So you're not actually part of the Body of Christ at all.

[@dylanwilliams2202]

@@lawrence1318 Lol Oh don't worry, I do know personally. I and other members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are in the body of Christ because we have all been baptized into it. 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 " For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For in the one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and we were all made to drink of one Spirit." I don't know what exactly you are referring to by "You only know a concept, a doctrine, an idea." because you could say that about anyone who believes in Jesus Christ. More so, since protestants believe that the only way you can have a relationship is by just reading the Bible.

[@lawrence1318]

@@dylanwilliams2202 No you don't know the Lord personally. Taking a bath doesn't change this. You belong to a club with attached concepts, just like the Roman Catholics, but you don't have a personal relationship with Christ.

[@morganedwards4733]

The book of Hebrews itself refutes everything in Mormonism. There is no need for another priesthood. Jesus is the priest forever after malchizedeck . His reign has no end!

[@sinnersaved1033]

I just read that yesterday.. it's irrefutable

[@dubaidispatch1390]

the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints does not say we have another priesthood. We say we have been given that same Priesthood Jesus gave to his disciples. Other churches can not say that because no one has given them the priesthood. In order to have the Priesthood Jesus gave to his disciples you either have to have been received it by Jesus or his apostles. so Once again we do not claim a different priesthood then the one Our lord Jesus Christ had.

[@sinnersaved1033]

@@dubaidispatch1390 oh ok. Is it the priesthood in the order of Melchizedek? That's what I thought but I could be wrong.

[@dubaidispatch1390]

@@sinnersaved1033 The priesthood that we hold in the Church of Jesus Christ is the Priesthood in the order of Melchizedek. the one given to the apostles by Jesus Christ. Joseph Smith was visited by John James and Peter the last holders of that priesthood.

[@sinnersaved1033]

@@dubaidispatch1390 oh ok so Christ is the final priest forever for all mankind but we need to be priests too? For what?

[@MB-sq2xv]

"People dont care about what you know untill they know that you care." Your Grandma is/was very wise.. God bless her.

[@stephaniecastro1835]

Thank you for taking the time to minister to them! I was 6th generation Mormon for 30 years and I’ve been born again for three years! Jesus is God and Grace is a free gift we cannot earn! Ephesians 2:8-10 are the verses that really spoke to me and helped me realize the truth. I appreciate you brother in Christ because my heart really hurts for Mormons. My family is starting to see the truth now. God is good! 🙌🏻I’ll be praying for you! 🙏🏻

[@lubatkachuk2098]

Praise God!!! Thank you for sharing!

[@loudigg]

Praise the LORD!!!

[@greatmike3120]

I was a Mormon missionary and this is so painful for me to watch because I was like these kids. We had no understanding of the Bible or theology all we had was the ignorant Mormon rhetoric that was in our church approved manuals which were the only material we were allowed to study. We were told that if we were worthy the spirit would guide us but it never did leading us down a path to toxic pefectionism just to be able to feel it. They told us we were teachers but we were not we were just door to door sales men that only knew a sales pitch and nothing else.

[@JackSonOfJohn]

Speak for yourself. I had many miraculous things happen on my mission and felt the Lord guiding us continually.

[@GloryBeToGodForever]

Jackson Andrasko Blessings - “And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.” 2 Corinthians 11:14. *God* bless.

[@JackSonOfJohn]

@@GloryBeToGodForever 13 Mas he aquí, lo que es de Dios invita e induce a hacer lo bueno continuamente; de manera que todo aquello que invita e induce a hacer lo bueno, y a amar a Dios y a servirle, es inspirado por Dios. 14 Tened cuidado, pues, amados hermanos míos, de que no juzguéis que lo que es malo sea de Dios, ni que lo que es bueno y de Dios sea del diablo. 15 Pues he aquí, mis hermanos, os es concedido juzgar, a fin de que podáis discernir el bien del mal; y la manera de juzgar es tan clara, a fin de que sepáis con un perfecto conocimiento, como la luz del día lo es de la obscuridad de la noche. 16 Pues he aquí, a todo hombre se da el Espíritu de Cristo para que sepa discernir el bien del mal; por tanto, os muestro la manera de juzgar; porque toda cosa que invita a hacer lo bueno, y persuade a creer en Cristo, es enviada por el poder y el don de Cristo, por lo que sabréis, con un conocimiento perfecto, que es de Dios. 17 Pero cualquier cosa que persuade a los hombres a hacer lo malo, y a no creer en Cristo, y a negarlo, y a no servir a Dios, entonces sabréis, con un conocimiento perfecto, que es del diablo; porque de este modo obra el diablo, porque él no persuade a ningún hombre a hacer lo bueno, no, ni a uno solo; ni lo hacen sus ángeles; ni los que a él se sujetan. 18 Ahora bien, mis hermanos, en vista de que conocéis la luz por la cual podéis juzgar, la cual es la luz de Cristo, cuidaos de juzgar equivocadamente; porque con el mismo juicio con que juzguéis, seréis también juzgados. 19 Por tanto, os suplico, hermanos, que busquéis diligentemente en la luz de Cristo, para que podáis discernir el bien del mal; y si os aferráis a todo lo bueno, y no lo condenáis, ciertamente seréis hijos de Cristo. 20 Y ahora bien, hermanos míos, ¿cómo es posible que os aferréis a todo lo bueno? 21 Ahora llegamos a esa fe de la cual dije que hablaría; y os indicaré la forma en que podéis aferraros a todo lo bueno. 22 Porque he aquí, sabiendo Dios todas las cosas, dado que existe de eternidad en eternidad, he aquí, él envió ángeles para ministrar a los hijos de los hombres, para manifestar concerniente a la venida de Cristo; y que en Cristo habría de venir todo lo bueno.

[@GloryBeToGodForever]

Jackson Andrasko Bendiciones. Su doctrina de LDS fue fundada por un nombre, Joseph Smith. Investige la vida de él. ¿Como puede ser que un fundador, segun profeta, pueda vivir una vida de poligamia? ¿No que supuestamente “lo que es de *Dios* invita e induce a hacer lo bueno continuamente?” ¿Como esta eso? Tambien, con todo respeto que usted se merece, ¿Como usted puede creer que usted puede llagar hacer un dios? Eso es absurdo y blasfemia. Usted esta siguiendo a un *Dios, Jesucristo, y Espiritu Santo* equivocado. Bendiciones.

[@JackSonOfJohn]

@@GloryBeToGodForever He investigado. Por eso soy miembro de la iglesia. No he encontrado ningun iglesia con profetas que han visto a Dios aun revelado cosas tan profundas de lo que ha hecho Jose Smith. Habia otras profetas que en la biblia tambien que tenian mas de una esposa. Si es una cosa yo no querria vivir pero quien soy yo para decir lo que Dios a mandado al profeta.

[@Joanngunjiri]

I desire this boldness👏

[@27Zangle]

Pray for it and read / study the word - slowly. I used to be in a hurry to know everything as quickly as possible. After taking some bible classes it has become apparent that taking my time gives a quality the scriptures and my relationship with Jesus that has never been experience before. Sometimes hours or days will be spent on one verse or even one word. Totally worth the effort because of the growth and confidence gained with such devotional time. Many scripture verses about seeking Him. One of the hardest things for me is to drop distractions like games, Facebook, KZbin. Some weeks / months I do well and other (like now), I have a rough season.

[@KSU-ce2uc]

Evangelizing is a work of the Holy Spirit. He is the one that empowers us. Acts 1:8. This young man has also studied. Study to show thyself approved; a workman that doesn't need to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of God.

[@sledge1960]

Never envy another man's calling brother, wait for the Lord and He will guide you where He wants you to be.

[@KSU-ce2uc]

I don't see anything wrong with admiring someone's boldness & work in the Lord. It's not necessarily envy. Elisha was given the same anointing as Elijah.

[@sledge1960]

@@KSU-ce2uc First of all, I was NOT accusing the brother, yes, it is good to be bold in the field, it is also wisdom, to know your calling. When a Christian steps outside his calling he is leaving himself wide open to the enemy, the Lord will not uphold what He has not ordained. You can see on KZbin, pastors of Christ, ordained as such, who took it upon themselves to enter into the field of Apologetics, debate Non-Believers and get destroyed.doing so. Secondly, Elisha was ordained and anointed as the prophet of God, y God, prepared to fill the mantle of Elijah on his rapture. You are talking about two different things entirely. Elijah himself couldn't transfer his anointing onto Elisha, it was God's gift to give, Elisha got his own anointing. 1 Kings is very clear on that reality. Thirdly, Peter deferred to Paul when it came to teaching 'the things that are hard to understand'. Look what happened to Swaggart when he stepped out of his anointing, Swaggart was anointed to evangelise the unsaved, preach the gospel, to sing and play the piano, a powerful ministry, Swaggart decided he was a scholar and an apologist, debated Ahmed Deedat and got annihilated, he was made a monkey of, then Swaggart fell into immorality. How can any Christian Apologist fail to defeat any muslim in any debate? it cannot happen. That's the danger I speak of. Swaggart wasn't alone in that. I've seen it in my own city. This is a very serious subject.

[@jcbowman100]

Well done sir! I love seeing Christians engaging the LDS boldly and with love.

[@joeyfeliciano9199]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXWalYioebmZftU

[@joeyfeliciano9199]

Jared Bowman, It seems you don't know what love really is. The link i showed is the real meaning of how to show love and respect to each other, regardless of differences. This video is a normal type of debate, on the streets or at the studio.

[@changmark]

@@joeyfeliciano9199 what's wrong with Jared's statement? In what way does it lack love ?

[@joeyfeliciano9199]

@@changmark Do i need to elaborate? If you can't see, I'm sorry for you.

[@changmark]

@@joeyfeliciano9199 I don't need your pity thanks.

[@motivationtheory6999]

Shoot im a Christian and he explained the Trinity way better than I could ever imagine. Now i understand better. Thank ya Preston

[@tiffanywright6653]

(deuteronomy 6:4) our lord is 1 not no 3 in 1 triune God head.. (Mark 12:29) jesus quoted the (Shema) important our Lord is (1) not no 3 in 1 Godhead. (1st corethians 11:3) God is Head of Christ.. Bible head system and trinity is not even mentioned or the (HOLY SPIRIT) (John 14:28) Jesus says Father is (Greater) then him not equal Trinity.. The trinity is False made up by (Satan the Devil) who is controlling the World right now (1st john 5:19).

[@nextbigthing2917]

Lenell75 niles when they say trinity it’s not literally 3 people in 1 it’s God playing all 3 of the roles father in heaven,came down to earth in human form Jesus,and spreads his holiness around the world Holy Spirit

[@makejesusfamousministries]

Yes he did a good job for sure! I make similar videos on my channel which is dope!!

[@makejesusfamousministries]

@@nextbigthing2917 Yes he did a good job for sure! I make similar videos on my channel which is dope!!

[@itzbrycethompson1762]

Tiff Baby, John 1:1-4

[@abbycvd]

Homeboy who isn't talking got the look of "oh snap, Preston is right!" In all seriousness, I hope these guys really had the time to reflect on their conversation after the fact and realize the gaps that exist within their faith. Preston, you have such strong communication skills - keep up the Good work.

[@rksnote9635]

I was a mormon missionary 25yrs ago at the age of 19. Being a bible scholar is not a requirement to become a missionary, heck I didnt even know any scriptures, I just knew I wanted to introduce Jesus to those who didnt know hiim. Serving the Lord is not about proving who is right or wrong its about becoming like him, in this video I see the christian and the mormons trying their best to become like "HIM", its all that matters. Bible bashing is pointless because every denomination has their own interpretations of a verse.

[@elizabethroberts4860]

You're boldness in christ and being able to just start a conversation let alone finish it is great! So inspiring and I wish I'll get the confidence to do this one day. Thanks for this Preston

[@gabbym4996]

Glory to God

[@MeJohnPaul]

Dang Preston my guy. You got all the armour on. I see you 👀

[@xoxoVnGxoxo]

I like their bible knowledge, but unfortunately they are misled. Let's not insult them, but let us pray for them. God wants everyone to be saved

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 The Bible is God's word. You should compare what someone tells you with the word of God.

[@xoxoVnGxoxo]

@@devfaded9351 Prove your knowledge with the Word of God. If the bible says in multiple verses that there should be nothing added to it (Prov. 30:5-6, Deu. 12:32, Rev. 22:18) and people still go ahead and see another book equally important as the bible and also consider it as holy, that is biblical proof of wrong doctrine. But as I said, let us pray, for we are dealing with spirits here not against people, let us not forget that.

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 No man hath seen God the Father. People have seen Jesus Christ in both the Old and New Testaments.

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 Catholics are not Christian. Also, the tares grow among the wheat. Not all people going to church will be in heaven one day. God knows those who are his.

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 the Bible frequently uses the term “forever” (Hebrew olam) in a more limited sense, to mean “a long duration,” and not necessarily a literal eternal existence (see Olam, 1999). Consider a few examples: Prior to the Israelites’ departure from Egypt, Moses instituted the Passover. He then added: “And you shall observe this thing as an ordinance for you and your sons forever” (Exodus 12:24, emp. added). Under the Law of Moses, when a servant pledged allegiance to his master, the master would “take an awl and thrust it through” the servant’s ear to the door (Deuteronomy 15:17). This was a sign that the servant would work for his master “forever” (15:17). (Until he died. Until one of them died.) After the Israelites visited King Rehoboam and petitioned him to lighten their burdens (2 Chronicles 10:3-4), the elders advised the king to be kind to the people and they would be his servants “forever” (10:7). Like so many words throughout Scripture that have more than one meaning, the term “forever” must be understood in light of the context in which it is found. The above-mentioned passages clearly use “forever” in a limited sense, referring to a “long duration” and not literal unendingness. What’s more, considering how many words (e.g., “forever”) have more than one meaning, skeptics cannot justifiably label passages like Ecclesiastes 1:4 and 2 Peter 3:10 contradictory unless they can prove both passages are using the word in the exact same sense. The proper understanding of these passages is that though the Earth has outlasted countless generations (lasting “forever” in limited sense), one day the Earth “will be burned up.” Finally, we frequently use the word “forever” in a limited sense in the 21st century (e.g., “that lecture lasted forever”). apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=2466

[@lvasquez2978]

I pray to one day have the biblical knowledge that Preston carries with him. I have only started my journey reading the Bible, but I cannot wait to be so knowledgeable in the Lord's word that I can recall it off the top of my head. You're so inspiring ✨

[@dylanwilliams2202]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Join God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and join their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.

[@jackscalibur]

@@dylanwilliams2202 No thanks. Jesus being Lucifer's brother when John 1 contradicts that, Elohim birthing Jesus Christ when He's always existed (again, John 1), and there being three "heavens."

[@dylanwilliams2202]

@@jackscalibur _"Jesus being Lucifer's brother when John 1 contradicts that"_ Nothing in John 1 contradicts that. It is so annoying how much this gets brought up because the only time we ever talk about or think about this is when you all bring it up. We believe that because we believe we were with God as his Children and were the angels before the foundation of the world. Jesus being our brother is very biblical. Jesus Christ is the son of God (Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5) and Romans 8:16-17 says that we are children of God and joint heirs with Christ. If both us and Jesus are children of God and joint heirs then if you think about this with some logic that would by default makes him our brother. Since Lucifer was once an angel then he would have been like us before and again, by default, it makes them brothers. Saying that literally means nothing about Lucifer being Satan and will lead you to eternal death and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God begotten here on earth, our Lord and our Savior and only in His name and through Him are our sins forgiven and removed so that we can be spotless before God. _"Elohim birthing Jesus Christ when He's always existed (again, John 1),"_ You are ignorantly misrepresenting our beliefs. We don't believe Jesus is a created being. D&C 93:29 “Man was also in the beginning with God. *Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.”* I think it is safe to say Jesus has intelligence so therefore He couldn’t have been created in our theology. Also in Abraham 3:18 “Howbeit that he made the greater star; as, also, if there be two spirits, and one shall be more intelligent than the other, yet these two spirits, *notwithstanding one is more intelligent than the other, have no beginning; they existed before, they shall have no end, they shall exist after, for they are gnolaum, or eternal.”* So there are 2 of our own scriptures that completely contradict the idea of Jesus being a created being and saying that He has always existed, same as us. Whatever form of birth process that happens up there would be similar to how birth changes us from a spiritual being to a physical being with flesh and blood here on earth but instead would be from what the pre spiritual being is to a spiritual being. _"and there being three "heavens."_ It is mentioned in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 15:40-41 "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory." Because people try and say this, if you are going to say that this is actually talking about different degrees in bodies instead of degrees of heavens... that doesn't refute our belief and in fact would support it. It was something that was believed by the early church fathers also. The very early Church Father, Papias, for example, understood that the Saviour's three degrees of 'fruitfulness' (Matthew 13:8, Matthew 13:23) corresponded to the Pauline three 'heavens' or 'glories' (1 Corinthians 15:41). According to him (as recorded in the first century account of Polycarp), the 'Elders' agreed that “Those who are deemed worthy of an abode in Heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of Paradise, and others shall possess the splendor of the City. For everywhere the Saviour will be seen, according as they shall be worthy who see him. But that there is this *distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixtyfold, and that of those who produce thirtyfold; for the first will be taken up into Heaven; the second class will dwell in Paradise, and the last will inhabit the City; and that on this account the Lord said, “In my house are many mansions”' for all things belong to God, who supplies all with a suitable dwelling place, even as his word says, that a share is given to all by the Father, according as each is or shall be worthy.”* That was also quoted by Irenaeus in his book Against Heresies 5 chapter 36. Origen, in the early third century, revealed that the early Church interpreted this passage in essentially the same way “Our understanding of the passage indeed is, that the Apostle, wishing to describe the great difference among those who rise again in glory, i.e., of the saints, borrowed a comparison from the heavenly bodies, saying, "One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, another the glory of the stars” (Origen, De Principiis 2, Chapter 10 paragraph 2) Clement of Alexandria also expressed belief in the three degrees, and echoed the Lord's revelation to Joseph Smith that those in the highest degree "are gods, even the sons of God." From Clement of Alexandria, Stromata 6 chapter 14 titled “degrees of heaven”, “Conformably, therefore, there are various abodes, according to the worth of those who have believed . . . . These chosen abodes, which are three, are indicated by the numbers in the Gospel--the thirty, the sixty, the hundred. And the perfect inheritance belongs to those who attain to "a perfect man," according to the image of the Lord . . . . To the likeness of God, then, he that is introduced into adoption and the friendship of God, to the just inheritance of the lords and gods is brought; if he be perfected, according to the Gospel, as the Lord Himself taught.” Clement also preached that the three gradations of glory are procured by virtue of three types of actions: [Clement of Alexandria] reckons three kinds of actions, the first of which is . . . right or perfect action, which is characteristic of the perfect man and Gnostic alone, and raises him to the height of glory. The second is the class of . . . medium, or intermediate actions, which are done by less perfect believers, and procure a lower grade of glory. In the third place he reckons sinful actions, which are done by those who fall away from salvation. In the vision of the kingdoms of glory to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon (Doctrine and Covenants section 76), the Lord revealed that this passage is not just a comparison of earthly bodies with heavenly, but also a reference to the fact that there are three different major levels of glory to which a body can be resurrected: “And the glory of the celestial is one, even as the glory of the sun is one. And the glory of the terrestrial is one, even as the glory of the moon is one. And the glory of the telestial is one, even as the glory of the stars is one; for as one star differeth from another star in glory, even so differs one from another in glory in the telestial world.” (D&C 76:96-98)

[@Adgarci1]

Praying that the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Christ are opened over you! In Jesus name 🙏 Ephesians 1:17

[@curtisbemis6640]

​@@dylanwilliams2202 not true

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

"I'm a 19 year old kid." Then how are you an "elder?"

[@cliftonwinkler1460]

elder in Hebrew mean teacher so there

[@CJXcars]

I was wondering the same thing like 10 hours ago

[@briannefowler]

When they go on their 2 year mission trip they are called elders and sisters even though they’re young. It’s just a title during that time, not an actual position of authority.

[@davids.3725]

A Mormon elder, and Christian elder don't mean the same...a mormon elder means teacher...whereas a Christian elder would be a seasoned, matured individual in the Word of God and Spirit of God, a leader in the body of Christ.

[@chelsealovesplants]

Former LDS here - they are called Elder because they are working underneath the priesthood that they hold aka the Melchizedek Priesthood. Elder is a working title, so when they finish their mission they are not called “Elders” anymore, they’re just brothers. They’re only called Elder again if they have certain leadership roles (like the Apostles)

[@CatalyticChristian]

I am extremely encouraged and refreshed by how loving and patient Preston is with these young men. Very very encouraging and Christ glorifying.

[@giddyliddy4415]

anybody else like before the video started?

[@reflexionesdelabiblia6711]

You shouk have said 'hit like' because in my sleepiness it read much differently.

[@tylerturducken519]

I'm Jewish and all I have to say is that Mormons always wear such awesome ties.

[@anunpopularstance]

True. And I will also add I've noticed you J double O's always wear such small hats.

[@shinysphinx8849]

No Despair Bear it’s spelled JEW. Leave your antisemiticism off the Internet.

[@anunpopularstance]

@@shinysphinx8849butthurt much? Enlighten me this? What exactly is an anti-semite? It's not my fault your ignorant self didn't catch the South Park reference. Go count your pennies there buddy.

[@markramlucken8502]

Aaron Ure Jewish do u believe in Jesus Christ that ,Jesus died for your sins n rose on the third day

[@efuaamuah1835]

@@markramlucken8502 they don't

[@Steven-hf7rg]

I liked how you explained the Trinity. I have always had a difficult time understanding it and it opened my eyes in a way I can understand. God Bless

[@codybaker7298]

I feel ya. It's entirely possible to apprehend but it's difficult to completely comprehend. Which makes sense because God is an eternal being.

[@calebgoodman]

You did a great job keeping your composure during that conversation Preston. Really like when you told them that you love them, aside from the clear false teachings that their following, maybe it’s your love that you express towards them that will lead them towards investigating their beliefs more. The Bible never contradicts itself.

[@johnarmstrong6940]

As soon as a Mormon goes to their testimony line, that the truth of Mormonism has been revealed to them by the holy ghost, you know its suddenly dawned on them the obvious contradiction between the Bible and the Book of Mormon. Its their get out of jail free card. They actually get taught to say that line. Good job Preston, lets pray a seed has been planted in the hearts of these two young men.

[@eterupatane4599]

It's sad to see your heart harden not to see the way how to seek truth. Their "Get out of jail free card" is not a cop out but an invitation for you to find truth. They are sharing with you their testimony of how they found truth, and inviting you to find that same truth as they did(in the book of mormon, Moroni 10:3-7; Bible, James 1:5). Imagine if you seek the Book of Mormon the with the same intent you do for the Bible, I wonder then if your answer will be the same as mine.

[@johnarmstrong6940]

​@@eterupatane4599 You are correct, it is sad, that when pressed about pretty serious contradictions found in the book of Mormon in comparison to the Bible, that the automated response is to go, "Well I know its true, because i prayed about it". I have witnessed to many Mormons, including family members who are LDS, and i can tell you its an automated response. Its one of many go to lines when the conversation heads off in a particular direction. Its either, "The council of Nicea" when discussing the nature of God and the God Head, or "look how many churches there are", but we are one church, when discussing the "only true church", never mined the fact there are many demonisations found in the LDS. Its absolutely taught to each person, particularly on mission. To your point, I wonder how you'd feel if you were witnessing to a Muslim and once you had pointed out the obvious contradictions, if they then said, "well I know its true because Allah revealed it to me". Does that now make both beliefs systems true, and its an invitation to delve into Islam? The bible deals in hard truths, not feel good stories. Its either true or its not, they cannot both be true. Jesus cannot be the Word, eternal, Creator of everything, as the Bible says and at the same time be lucifers brother, as the LDS claim, no testimony is going to sort that contridiction out.

[@jwjbros7926]

Theres no other way but the Holy Ghost and its biblical. You have to show me in the bible where it saids differently.

[@jwjbros7926]

We dont interpret the scriptures the same way thats why you are seeing contradictions. LDS interpret scriptures consistently.

[@Silverheart1956]

Dear @@eterupatane4599, Yes, this is rather long. I hope you will give consideration to the time it took to type it. I wouldn't do it if I didn't consider you as important. It is typed with love. A testimony that is contrary to factual evidence is basically a statement based on feelings or "blind faith", and does not have a foundation on truth. Feelings and "blind faith" do not confirm truth and can easily lead to being deceived. I have heard many people of many religions testify that what they believe in is true, yet their beliefs are contrary to one another. Their testimonies sound so good and true. And they are so sincere. Most of them believe their beliefs with all their hearts. But, do you think all of them are true, even though their beliefs and testimonies contradict each other ? Somebody is wrong, but who ? The problem is that they are bearing subjective testimonies. Subjective testimonies are unreliable sources to determine truth. The point is that, Christians should avoid subjective testimonies. They easily lead to being deceived. of all those contrary testimonies, surely you can see that some one is being deceived. Like I said, they can't all be right if they are contrary. You have mentioned James 1:5 - "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him." I have followed the prescripts of this verse and have asked for wisdom. I asked trusting in God and He did grant me wisdom. He said it is "unwise" to trust in something (beliefs) that are not true. Truth has a factual, evidential foundation. The wise man will objectively research the claims of Christianity to see if it has a factual foundation, and then place their trust in what is factually true (obviously you would not want to place your trust in something that is not true, right !). But how do you know, for sure, if it is objectively, factually true ? If you don't honestly research to find out if Christianity has a factual foundation, then you are behaving unwisely and are failing to follow Scripture; essentially dishonoring Jesus Christ. If a person doesn't do it this way, then they obviously "lack wisdom" and are making themselves vulnerable to deception by false teachers. We should have the attitude of the Bereans (Acts 17:10-11) and test the words of everyone (even an apostle like Paul) to verify if what they say is true. (I never blindly accept what my pastor or teacher says is true, I fact check them all the time and sometimes reject what they teach). This is the noble minded way of honest Christians. I don't think members of the LDS church live up to what James 1:5 is teaching. They blindly trust the traditions they where brought up in, or the words of what some "bishop" told them to believe. If they don't critically question the problems of the LDS Church and what they are told to believe, then they are people without wisdom, and only prayed the prayer of James 1:5 with their mouth, not their heart, because they are conducting unwise decision making. The way LDS members confirm truth, and make a testimony, is different from the way Christians of the New Testament did it, and encouraged it. I have never heard a LDS testimony that says "I know the teachings of Smith are true because I objectively tested his words and claims, in the noble minded spirit of the Bereans, and the objective evidence has convinced me that Smith's claims are true, therefore I place my trust (faith) in the objective truthfulness of these claims. I probably never will hear an LDS member say that, because an investigation of the truth claims of Smith is discouraged by the Church. The Church encourages subjectivity, and a testimony based on subjectivity. I think there is much the LDS Church would like to prevent its members from looking into, on an objective basis. You said, "if you seek the Book of Mormon the with the same intent you do for the Bible." Dear Eater Patane​, you seem to be unaware of the problems of trying to equate the Book of Mormon, with the Bible. You cannot consider the two to be equals. The Bible has an incontestable historical basis that the Book of Mormon does not have. Any objective minded person can see that the BOM has a huge problem with historicity and authenticity. Members of the LDS Church are taught to ignore or overlook this fact, but the problem is very obvious to objective, intellectually honest people. Dear Eater Patane, I challenge you to give me: 1. The name of one city of antiquity mentioned in the BOM that it's historicity and location is unquestioned and universally accepted. You need some external verification and that is lacking in the BOM. I may be able to find a hundred such cities in the Bible, that even an atheist would agree, meets these requirements. However I ask you for just one in the BOM. 2. the name of one geographical feature of the Americas, of antiquity, mentioned in the BOM that its description and location is unquestioned and universally accepted. Note: it probably wouldn't use one of our contemporary English names. I can definitively locate many such places in the Bible. 3. I challenge you to give me the name of a person of antiquity in the Americans, mentioned in the BOM that who's historicity is unquestionably established and universally accepted. Essentially there is no external evidence that can establish the historicity of the BOM. Archaeology has been a tremendous testimony to establish the historicity of the Biblical texts, but archaeology has established virtually no evidence to confirming the historicity of The BOM. The BOM reads like fictional folklore , which is why there are no, non-LDS archaeological organizations endorsing the BOM as a historical text of ancient America. This is very different with the Biblical texts. There are many geographical features, cities & places, people, and events that are mention in the Bible that have well established, external, evidential support. The two texts are very different. One is historical (The Biblical Text) and one appears to have no historical basis (the BOM). If course the LDS Church will not want you to investigate this issue. They will want you to ignore the issue, "have faith" (which is contrary to the kind of faith the Bible describes), trust your testimony (founded on subjectivity without an intellectually honest investigation of the facts, which is exceedingly unwise, demonstrating an attitude contrary to James1:5). They may try to give some evidence of confirmation, but only LDS Members are convinced the evidence is sufficient. Every one else considers it to be spurious and weak. It is different with the Biblical texts. My agnostic Egyptian archaeology professor once told me that he didn't accept the miraculous portions of the Bible, but admitted, "it tells us where to dig". The Biblical text has an established historical basis, that even skeptics admit too. Dear Eater Patane, I take the time to tell you these issues in hope that you would seek wisdom and objectively investigate and research this issue, to demonstrate wisdom and intellectual honesty in evaluating the truth. Remember legitimate testimonies are founded on the objective basis of truth. Subjective testimonies are common to most religions. I don't want a common testimony; I want a testimony based on objective, verifiable truth. That is the only thing I will place my trust in. My testimony will then be based on my trust in what is verifiable, objective facts of the Gospel and the Christian worldview. Then come my proclamation of my trust in those facts (my testimony), which is a much stronger testimony than the testimony of the LDS members. The LDS Members say "the Holy Spirit told me it it true". Christians say "the Holy Spirit showed me with "many convincing proofs" (1:3) that the claims of Jesus is objectively and verifiably true in the context of real, verifiable, history, and because of this factual basis, I can have objective confidence of what I place my trust (faith) in. Then the Holy Spirit gives me the inward confirmation that my trust is true, both objectively and subjectively. Double confirmation ! Much stronger that the mere inward, subjective (and dangerously naive and gullible) "faith" that the LDS members have. I don't have to avoid the objective evidence, like LDS members do. The Christian type of faith has a much stronger foundation than the LDS faith. I enjoy resting in the confidence of the strong foundation of the Christian faith. I hope you will honestly consider the Christian perspective of objective based faith. I know because of the objective evidence, place my trust in those facts, and my heart is at rest in that strong assurance of both objective and subjective verification of truth. If you have any comments or questions, don't hesitate to contact me. DZ

[@mitchaldridge5593]

Preston, you do such a great job of being gracious and persuasive all at the same time. Keep up the excellent work bro. I love how gentle you are while sticking to the truth!

[@titapasina8851]

I love this so much! Thank you for explaining everything loud and clear! I could never have that much patience when it comes to these kinds of conversations. God bless you Preston!

[@kateblease6993]

Mormons use the same words as Christians but they mean very different things. Their definition of grace, salvation, atonement, and even the nature of Jesus is another gospel.

[@BennyGTV]

Kate Blease not true

[@kateblease6993]

Ben, I was a Mormon for 34 years so I know what they teach.

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

@@BennyGTV the definition of Grace in Christianity is "unmerited favor or blessings from God". The Mormon definition is over 15 sentences long.

[@howardstern9129]

Aren't Mormons Christian

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

@@howardstern9129 If you mix those 3 words up they are all true except for how you have it.

[@loved4296]

The mormon dude wants to serve god he is just lost in wrong teachings and he doesn’t know the truth Jesus save him

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 Mormons worship a god that was once a man and came from another planet. They also deny Christ and say that Christ is a created being. They also teach that you are saved by works plus grace.

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333). "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s . . . " (D&C 130:22). "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). God the Father had a Father, (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105). God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428). God had sexual relations with Mary to make the body of Jesus, (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218; vol. 8, p. 115). * The true and living God the Father is invisible and a spirit. I Timothy 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. *****

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129). Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8; Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15). * The true biblical Christ is an uncreated being that has always existed with God the Father from all eternity. He took on human flesh 2,000 years ago. * John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Christ, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. The Word Made Flesh 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 I urge you to read your Bible and learn the truth. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. - Article of Faith #3 Book of Mormon For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. - 2 Nephi 25:23 "One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation," (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206). The Bible Eph. 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [h]that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. *********** Jesus' sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247). I John 1:7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. ********** Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92). The Bible Romans 3:28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, *********** There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188). The Bible Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." - John 14:6 *********** "This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts," (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697). The Bible Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. *********** There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mormon Doctrine, p.670). The Bible And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name (Jesus) under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. - Acts 4:12

[@strongtower9237]

@@devfaded9351 Not believing in God doesn't change anything. You have an appointment with death and an appointment with God.

[@UntotheLord]

Your way you talk to people is brilliant! Truly glorifying to God. You lead others to truth through what they already know and understand. With such patience, calmness and respect. That’s amazing

[@roblane5699]

The Mormon Elder was being firm in his belief until he couldn’t answer the contradictions in their doctrine, then he became a 19 year old kid who’s not supposed to be able to answer all those questions. Hopefully he will realize the error of Mormonism & come to the Truth

[@UnworthyAmbassadorofChrist]

😂

[@lbranom3310]

Hopefully he will go ask other Mormon Elders the same questions. Imagine the fruit from that tree.

[@kittykins5744]

AMEN!

[@liliejuarez12]

He doesnt answer the question he just gives scripture that still doesnt give an answer lol

[@toneyzion]

😂

[@reesewitherfork6142]

Ive barely started watching, But if the parties involved believe the Bible is true, then it makes sense to use scripture as the answer. Mormons believe the Bible is true, they just put more emphasis on BOM

[@meandepiphany]

@blue heeler What else would you stand on?

[@jessciple]

literally...

[@c_lake]

Galatians chapter 1 refutes Mormonism. I dated a Mormon for a year and they truly love the Lord but they are worshipping a different Jesus. They are so close yet so far

[@Chanel8-i1n7n]

Calvin.they are not even close.how can they teach that Jesus and Satan are Brothers.in their history black people are the cursed race.they not allowed to drink coffee coke .

[@lionlight777]

Spot on, well stated Sir.. Be blessed always.

[@usovinny7567]

Saying she believes in a false Jesus is a judgment you and so many people make so very often when the judgment is not yours to make. You have NO right to say what kind of relationship she has with her savior. What's to say about your relationship? Worry about your own salvation before you play the role of judge of israel

[@lionlight777]

@@usovinny7567 God Bless you buddy.🙏✝️🙏

[@jwjbros7926]

Galatians 1 is about false angels so theres no contradiction there. Rev 14:6 is about a true angel and we believe that is a fulfill prophecy. Context is the key. You may not agree with it but try to see where we as LDS interprets it.

[@CoreyWilkerson]

"After all we can do", That's a really good question and discussion point. There is definitely a clash between the two texts. Great job good brother. 👏🏾

[@ajcole4547]

Hey bro, so this from a purely technical standpoint being a cinematographer, so you shoot at a super low aperture that i think is below maybe 1.8, so the only camera that is super good at pulling focus at that low of aperture is canon with there amazing auto focus, and other brand such Panasonic or sony, that what i think you are shooting on, has a hard time doing so, so i would say bring up your aperture to maybe a 2.8 and you will still get that really nice depth of field that the low aperture gives, and it wont be hunting for focus the whole video, again this is only from a technical perspective for constructive criticism, i like the content and i feel that it could improve the video quality

[@ddave7026]

Thank you for that. I own a Sony and sometimes i struggle with apeture and metering

[@TheChristianPledger]

your funny man lol

[@zeal4god402]

That Mormon tenent of we could eventually be gods is what Lucifer ascribed to before he became satan

[@josemontero9137]

Can a child be like his father?

[@dlfranklin5524]

@@josemontero9137 He said he could rise above stars of God and be like the most high. Isa 14:13-14. Lds don't believe that they can become like or greater than God. Satan wanted to become a God by his own merits not by being subject to God. Lds believe they will become joint-heirs with God. Philip 2:5-6.

[@danielsummers5438]

I think we are here because one day we are made for bigger things. God wouldn't make us just to worship him. He is not that vein.

[@YourMuvva]

Bro it literally says in the bible that we will become Gods. Why would God make us to not progress further

[@slicer1181]

A.h.t you are correct in the both David in psalms and the Jesus affirming the fact that God says, “are ye not gods?” The context of this verse has a huge impact on what the verse means. David is talking to the Judges in the original statement. These were people sent with gifts or powers to allow Israel to take back power in their land. When David tells this to them he is referring to the creation of Adam where as we were created in Gods own image. This means that as God is the creator and keeper of the universe and all that ever has and will be, we are the gods (lowercase) of this world. We were intended to rule over this world and tend to it just as God rules over and tends to us

[@lynnef9330]

You did a fabulous job explaining the trinity! Thank you! I live in Utah, and therefore I frequently find myself amongst a lot of LDS folks. Sadly, Mormons as a whole do not like investigating the truth, and they are also taught by their bishops to reject anyone who challenges them. The truth should never fear investigation. The truth shall set you free. 🙌

[@jesslangton4698]

Lynne F I’m sorry that you’ve been around Bishops that teach to reject people who are curious, but that is not Heavenly Fathers intentions. We should accept and answer the questions to the best of our abilities, not reject and put down the investigators.

[@onyinyesarah1226]

There is no such thing as the trinity that would mean there's 3 Gods Wichita there isn't only 1

[@loksterization]

@@onyinyesarah1226 it sounds like you didn't watch the video. He explained the Trinity perfectly. God has 3 co-equal persons. He is God! We can't dictate to God and say he cannot exist of three persons, because he does. It is clear when you know the Bible.

[@Stackwxxds]

I would encourage you (whoever reads this comment to do so, we are in the latter times, and deception is here) to listen to Apostle Gino Jennings and listen to how he breaks the God head down, there is no trinity in the scripture!

[@erroreerrore8511]

That's why I m atheist

[@thetruckdrivinggamer2098]

The other Mormon brother is just sitting there scratching his head like? I riding with Preston bro🔥

[@nicolesweeney9624]

😂😂

[@mikepawson371]

Well yo' zup my 'n-word' my man. Ayy'e he just husslin gotcha. Word man woord go tha my brotha aii'e. Peace out homiez

[@mikepawson371]

@b jam don' be hatin' beeJeammy. It't all good ya kno' Aint' husslin' my brotha aaie' Hav'e som fun we goona buy wit mi green som smiley to ya face aai'e? C'mon man czear upp my homie'z Peacie out blazted style i make aa 'ie

[@SimmieKane]

@@mikepawson371 were you having a stroke? .. are you okay? It’s been a month

[@curtisbemis6640]

@@SimmieKane 😂😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@caribbeanman3379]

Elder Young looks mighty quiet - almost like he's not sure Mormon theology is correct. lol.

[@GIAJTIH8900]

I know😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Praise Jesus.

[@Kooshad1]

Elder is a big title to put on these young guys.

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

Even a fool that remains queit appears wise" -Proverbs Be quick to listen slow to speak" -James

[@makejesusfamousministries]

hahaha! preston Yes he did a good job for sure! I make similar videos on my channel which is dope!!

[@rooster555555]

He looks bored af

[@caribbeanman3379]

"Grace after all we can do" is like when you and your friend go out to a restaurant and your friend generously offers to cover the cost of your meal - after you pay all you can afford to. lol.

[@elizabethking5523]

Exactly!!! Lol😊

[@simplygina7703]

Great illustration!

[@carlosmuller3565]

Caribbean Man awesome analogy. Gonna use this next time I evangelise

[@Rebecca57097ssss]

😂😂😂

[@walakirk5270]

Caribbean Man 😂😂

[@avanawallen7050]

The bible tells us that some things are beyond our human understanding and I believe when we try to logic out spiritual things we end us in confusion. The use of the word trinity isn't biblical, however I do believe that there is one God existing in 3 person. I really enjoy the discussion.

[@itsxandyy]

avana wallen the Bible also mentions that we should be ready to explain what we believe. Yes, we don’t know everything but christians can use logic to explain to non believers the truth.

[@avanawallen7050]

@@itsxandyy I agree however faith isn't based on logic. Throughout the bible we see so many miracles and scripture speak about so many wonders and we are unable to comprehend most of them but because of faith we believe, not logic. Which is the reason we can not in and of ourselves convert anyone that's the work of the Holy Spirit...we speak what has been reviled to us THEN allow the Spirit to move.

[@LamarGibbs]

To be fair, the use of the word biblical and Bible aren't biblical 😂. The Bible is a term that means books, and testifies to the nature of the Scriptures being multiple books. So the Trinity testifies to the nature of God being one being eternally revealed as three persons. The issue isn't logic, because the Trinity is very logical, it's just the level of comprehension is beyond human ability.

[@avanawallen7050]

@@LamarGibbs we can agree that a lot of the terminology that we use as modern day believers are not from the original testiment of the scripture. Thats is factual and believe we study know that. The Lord giveth wisdom and understanding but knowing facts doesn't means one is spiritual.... the essence of my comment is that understanding the role of the "God head " isn't as simple as it sounds. Thank you for your opinion.

[@LamarGibbs]

@@avanawallen7050 oh for sure, I agree that it isn't simple, it's VERY complex. Sorry if I gave off that impression. Absolutely agree that knowing facts doesn't make one spiritual, in fact if we're not careful, it'll make us prideful as 1 Cor 8:1 says. We're more spiritual when we reflect the character and heart of the Father in truth. So amen.

[@joenelson5819]

I’m an ex Mormon and God saved me. Keep up the love and communication with the lost.

[@jubeijackson6602]

Bless you my brother! I have had this conversation with Mormons as well. You spoke the truth in Love. God is pleased

[@drewg1988]

This was so encouraging. You did an excellent job! I praise the Lord for brothers like you that make scripture the center point of defending doctrines. From Loganville, GA, God bless you

[@LishCouture]

I love your videos, sometimes I just think you interrupt but don't allow anyone to interrupt you. Great work spreading the word of God. This is encouraging to me to do more as a believer with talking to non believers more frequently.

[@nellieflores9288]

It's so sad how they are so deceived. God loves them so much. Hopefully, they'll see the truth someday.

[@sharonpage3461]

I've never understood if God is a spirit how can he die on the cross it does not make sense to me help me understand

[@footballmarshawn23]

Jesus is God incarnate (fully man and fully God). Jesus’s spirit didn’t die when he died. It said before died “Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit” (Matthew 27:50). Does this answer your question?

[@collenblack9915]

@@footballmarshawn23 r u sure about that, u do know when Abraham took Isaac to the mountain it was sign of things to come , God would sacrifice his son for salvation of the Israelites. Even when the children of Israel were walking in the desert they sinned and snakes were biting them so Moses was told to put a serpent on a stick so that whoever sees it will be saved just like how the son of men shall be put on a cross

[@footballmarshawn23]

@@collenblack9915 I don’t understand how what you just said contradicts what I just said?

[@collenblack9915]

@@footballmarshawn23 there is only one God that’s the father in heaven check all the scriptures the son said don’t worship me but the father in heaven.

[@debkrause]

You did a great job showing the "clash" between the two books, with love and humility. God bless you!

[@BreakfastDragon]

I am learning so much about discipleship from your videos! The Holy Trinity is an extremely hard concept to grasp and you explained it so beautifully.

[@theobserver4685]

The Mormon brother is trying hard to pull something of the pocket to impress the fellow brother in Christ. Mate, you can’t sidelined the truth when you come to grace & faith.

[@hollayevladimiroff131]

The Book of Mormon has never been validated or proven by historians or archeologist, not one artifact has been found. The restoration never was valid, the gospel or church has always been, it never ceased, and the gospel lives today. Preston, you are one of the best Apologetics that I have heard, wonderful job!!

[@natalieroylance8096]

Yes it has

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

You know what rhymes with "Watch out for that kid with the golden plates?" Galatians chapter one verse eight

[@queenofthebronx]

😲...wow

[@rachels209]

Just read it then. Paul hit the nail on the head there & then! Thank you for the reference. There in itself is all the proof I ever need to anyone who knocks on my door trying to convert me from my faith. What is a crying shame is these guys are so committed to a doomed path.

[@droidy347]

What do you mean by this? Joseph smith taught the gospel of Jesus Christ, the same gospel taught in the New Testament. So explain your reasoning behind bringing up that scripture?

[@annavu9369]

Rylan Cunningham «but even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”

[@droidy347]

Anna Vu so what you’re saying is Joseph Smith is a true prophet because he taught the same gospel as from the New Testament? Neato

[@marioabram1990]

The HOLY GHOST does not reveal contradictions.. the crazy thing is I myself was interrupting the mormon and I wasn't there 🤣

[@elizabethking5523]

Lol, thats just awesome Mario! Blessings!

[@austinlaing9012]

Holy Ghost? You mean Gods Holy spirit(his active force) not some weird shadowy ghost figure.

[@norman2997]

Preston, I was a Mormon from birth, sealed in the temple. But…God revealed the truth to me. I’ve been saved,baptized and now living in the knowledge of the false religion of Joseph Smith! I used to defend the LDS. What’s so crazy to me is the elders arguments were mine! Listening to him, it’s sad! Knowing the Truth, WOW!!! What a difference! Sincerely your saved brother Norman. Keep dealing the truth!

[@user-tb7iz1vf7p]

Norman stoddard There is Hope! Praise God. Sometimes I want to give up evangelizing Mormons and Jehova witnesses. Your testimony encourages me. Would love to know how you came to the truth. 🙏🏻

[@WendyTai1]

I am so Thankful I stumbled on this video of 4 years. I have run into 2 Mormons that I want to get the TRUE word out to them, and hopefully they see they have been deceived. This helps me GREATLY.

[@gracefullyblessed555]

This was really good, may the Lord continue to bless you with boldness and courage to share his truth that others will come to the knowledge of truth

[@ItsEasleyLiving]

2 Mormon women randomly came to our weekly Bible study yesterday and seemed excited to come back. I’m praying that seeds are being planted in their hearts and they’ll seek and find Truth

[@elizabethking5523]

Yes! That is wonderful, and know that they do not suppose to be there with you according to the lds leadership. I was a 6 generation and very devout lds and went to a Christian Bible study. All the women were kind and never said a word about anything about mormonism. And so I felt okay to be there. The Lord led me out completely a year and 3monhs later. I took their winter, spring, summer and Fall Bible sessions in the yr Jan 1999-March 2000. They let the Word speak to me. And did it ever!!!❤ The Holy Spirit will do the work! Yall just love them and let them see your Joy in the Lord!!😄Blessings!!

[@erod4530]

Wooow! Excellent job brother! Thank you so much for this video, keep up the great work, God bless!!!

[@sassyslevin]

Grace is the power of the Holy Spirit to overcome all sin that binds us, through the power of Jesus Christ. It is not merely Mercy, but literally is the power of God to overcome sin. Once I took this understanding into my heart The Grace of God changed my life. Hope it helps someone. God bless your family Preston Perry, and all else who are here. Amen!

[@allanx2010]

The Devil can whisper in your ear. Those can be small voices too.

[@shanyshanz4338]

The trinity- 3 persons, different roles who all share the same status of God (co-equal).

[@jesuschristsaves9067]

Shany Shanz yessir

[@milesrobbins11]

There is only one God. None above him.

[@tiffanywright6653]

(deuteronomy 6:4) our lord is 1 not no 3 in 1 triune God head.. (Mark 12:29) jesus quoted the (Shema) important our Lord is (1) not no 3 in 1 Godhead. (1st corethians 11:3) God is Head of Christ.. Bible head system and trinity is not even mentioned or the (HOLY SPIRIT) (John 14:28) Jesus says Father is (Greater) then him not equal Trinity.. The trinity is False made up by (Satan the Devil) who is controlling the World right now (1st john 5:19).

[@BallersLife3]

Miles Robbins there is 1 God which is 3 in 1

[@colonalklink14]

Trinity is one being, one essence yet three persons. Jesus

[@Ze_Chevalier]

I didn't expect to finish this video when I clicked on it, good job man, keep it up.

[@byronedwards5828]

Brother Joe, l have been a Christian for 40+ years and l must say God bless you, l know he will... From a old white boy keep up the good work, your friend in Christ.Byron E.

[@ebolds4918]

This conversation was awesome. I thought your discussion of how to understand the trinity was enlightening to many. Thanks for all you are doing to spread the gospel 🙏🏽

[@tuckerdoud3690]

Excited for part 2! Great video!

[@alumniadri8716]

Thank you for your faithfulness. This definitely blessed me.

[@immensebeaute5293]

When he told him he loved them it made me tear up . Preston is such a strong testament to Christianity and how strong our religion is aside from all misconceptions

[@austinharrison4316]

Every time the guy mentions his “fruit” or how something has worked with his Mormon life, he uses scripture from the Bible and not from the book of mormon.

[@freddhernanadez2230]

😂😂😂

[@natalieroylance8096]

So what . We have both

[@dhonsinger]

This reminds me of similar conversations that I had with Mormon missionaries when I was 18 / 19... good job being patient and loving!

[@SonsofIssac]

Rhetorical wizardry. Deception is always complicated, technical and riddled with redefinition of words, lyrical gymnastics, double speak and begging the question...

[@Irene78451]

My heart goes out to this 19 year old kid. I wonder if he has seen the truth about his faith and the mormon church or are still apart of it. Praying for him. I loved this Preston.

[@incorvaiac]

GOD bless the 3 young men in this video.. I personally see 3 men trying to find God.. they are just on different roads and different understandings. I love the respect level is on 100

[@Blackwhite99251]

One knows God The other two are just serving satan blindly

[@CoreyWilkerson]

To fully embrace the Book of Mormon you have to reject the Fullness of the Bible. This dialogue seems to make that very clear.

[@brotherbread6549]

Absolutely wonderful ending, brother. I learned something my self in this video. God bless you

[@logansales7000]

This young man is closer to faith in the true Gospel than he realizes. Excellent Kingdom work you're doing.

[@jeremycarey2772]

Trinity is the hardest thing for mortals understand. Preston is very good at explaining this.

[@davidwilsonjr.1437]

So blessed and encouraged to study God's word even more. The segment at the end explaining your heart coupled with the Holy Spirit is how lives will be changed.👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽 👊🏽

[@skylinemusik1]

Dude on the side looking at his bro like damn he getting smoked, I’m sure he came to the Lord after this hahhaha

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

Every missionary pair has a naive sweetheart and an ignorant Pharisee

[@gallero562guero7]

Lol

[@lovelife8968]

@TheWayTheTruthTheLife, I was thinking the same thing. Hahah I like Preston's boldness without being aggressive. Patient!

[@skylinemusik1]

Tisha Carroll Amen... the scriptures tell us to be patient with unbelievers. Great job

[@toneyzion]

😂😂

[@emmanuel_dean]

This was amazing to watch. I love how you guys were able to sit together and wrestle with the tough questions. Ultimately, we all seek truth. Continue articulating truth to the world.

[@timjohnson1827]

The trinity isn't that hard to grasp. H2O can be liquid solid and gas but they are one. God is Father Son and holy spirit but they are one

[@Iso10x]

Sean Antonio Yes Jesus is God, Isaiah 43:10 “Besides me there is no other God there never was and there never will be” God is not time bound, he sent his himself in the form of mankind and went through life to understand and to set an example of how the people should worship God. John 14:16 GNT says “I will ask the father and he will give you a helper to stay with your forever, he is the spirt, who reveals the truth about god” GOD IS GREAT!

[@ricardoanderson3070]

Loved this

[@Qu3777]

Tim Johnson Hey Tim I totally agree with you here about the trinity I feel like it is so easy but check out the 4 hour debate between Marcus Rogers and Steven Burcat it was a debate about the Trinity vs Oneness. A lot of people do not get the trinity. Check out Jesusgeek tv too I like that guy as well God bless

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

No, that's modalism A better analogy would be a single man with 3 heads. I think there is a girl on this earth with 2 heads, conjoined twins they're called. God is a conjoined triplet from the beginning

[@EricSmyth2Christ]

@Noah Wells WOAH that is GREAAAAAAAAAAAT

[@eboni3688]

I really enjoy these videos! I'm learning a lot! I noticed though, in this video you often apologize for cutting him off, but then continue to cut him off..and then request that he let you finish your thought when he begins to cut you off. I find it hard to follow the conversation when the full thought gets caught off but that may just be due to my minimal knowledge on the Mormon faith in general.

[@joanniedavis6372]

I agree with you. I love Preston's work with these videos, but in order to be a conversation, we need to learn how to listen as well. He has a hard time with that but hopefully will learn and improve for the following conversations.

[@eboni3688]

Joannie Davis I think since he’s passionate about what needs to be said it’s hard to wait until the other person has finished. I’m the same way with other topics that I’m passionate and excited about.

[@mikegriffiths11]

@@tandraokeefe4267 This is because he was trying to lock them into logical corners. That is not a true discussion. Kirby salesman operate this way. they state things in a way and ask you questions that there is designed to be only one correct answer for which ends up in you having to choice but to buy the product.

[@sherecebennett9349]

I really like this! Evangelism is beautiful. Preston broke down the Holy Spirit very well. And he definitely backed up his explanations with scripture. He didn't speak from what he "personally believed." He spoke bible. My only advice is that he let the other guy speak. Try not to cut him off. It becomes argumentative and not conversational. We have to have gentle instruction. But overall, this was a great video.

[@Ovaatime51]

Preston, I really enjoyed how you never once got upset, confrontational or defensive. You are 100% anointed by the power of the holy spirit. I am a Catholic and love the word and truth it reveals. nice work.

[@calebjackson99]

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse. Galatians 1:8 Funny how Joseph Smith got the Book of Mormon from an angel...

[@alexorth5172]

a false one (demon) that interestingly fell off of the mormon temple in utah during all of this crisis due to an earthquake.

[@jeffdan1039]

He was preaching the gospel that was taught to him. The Book of Mormon is just another testament of Jesus Christ.

[@Apostle734]

@@jeffdan1039 if it's not in the Bible it's not part of Jesus testimony

[@Apostle734]

Caleb thank you for that Galatians reference. Its so important that Paul said it twice!

[@leeleviner8159]

You haven't read the book have you? Book of mormon talks of Christ and teaches everything that was taught by Christ. it s his gospel. here is the link so you can read it. www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng

[@atelierstudios7761]

The most incredible miracle "Ever" was uttered from the cross as Jesus sighed and said, . . . . "It is Finished!" He destroyed what the enemy had done. Then he rose again, on the third day. Now, a man in his backyard claims he found a book and says it was an incorrect interpretation of the bible. So he changed it.

[@samuelbarratt9346]

The atonement was finished lmao, if you disagree with problems with the bible then why are there so many different religions around the same bible?

[@animetop1066]

@@samuelbarratt9346 because there are a lot of fake prophets arround the Christianity enviroment 🙏🏼

[@sirpoppinchuck]

He wasnt ready for the question. "After all you can do?" What is the all? His body language was like help me bro other dude was like i dont know either. Stomped smh Prayer for these brothers that they come to the real meaning of grace

[@samuelbarratt9346]

People don't know everything, its a pretty simple question that he simply didn't know, nothing wrong with that

[@devontegordon6606]

Samuel Barratt that’s true but the fact is that when the real truth is revealed people deny it

[@Joe-fd3pq]

God bless you, young man! Continue the work of the Lord!🫡

[@1thess523]

"I and the Father are one"

[@CharisCM]

Seems like Mormons believe in the Father, the Son and Joseph Smith.

[@ferguson1376]

😂

[@rogerdat7807]

BRILLIANT

[@selinaogorman8380]

CharisCM yes Joseph always comes first and they don’t believe in the real God since he used to be a man now he is a exalted man.

[@kourtneydouthard-becker1501]

I can't 😐😖😂😂😂😂

[@itzbrycethompson1762]

Shut uppp 😂😂💀

[@ThomasJDavis]

23:36 _"I know beyond logic that the BoM is true."_ 36:22 _"Logically, the trinity doesn't make any sense."_ Well, based on that logic, maybe he should convert...?

[@monkiesOnKrack]

People can't understand that the Trinity is the same GOD. Son, Father, Holy Ghost. The thing is, God did that for a reason. There is no specific explanation. It is what it is. So explaining that to other religions really frys their brain because they try to bring logic into it. But we can all agree that God can do anything and that anything meant the Trinity.

[@JGPlease]

I live in Utah and struggle with this mind set everyday. I am growing in my faith and I admire your knowledge and dedication for proclaiming gospel.

[@tribulationprepper787]

The Mormon proudly says "I'm holding it in my hand", (Book of Mormon). He may as well be displaying a Reader's Digest!

[@Taurus-i8d]

😅😅😅😅😅💯

[@naturallymemarie9650]

What made me understand the Trinity was the H2O example. H2O as an element can exist in 3 forms Liquid (water), solid (ice), and vapor (steam, mist) all 3 different forms with different roles and purposes but all are of the same element called H2O. When that was explained to me in reference to understand the Trinity I instantly understood. Because God has shown Himself in creation and I believe creation can be used to help us understand His essence. When He created water, he created it to testify of Himself. That's why Jesus was called Living Water. The most important element in creation is water (H2O) and it can be in 3 different forms, like God.

[@naturallymemarie9650]

@WorshipPray Repeat you are very welcome this example helped me so much and confirmed what Romans 1:20 says "For every since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God has made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature. So that they have no excuse for not knowing God." Amen!

[@Pe0ads]

That’s actually modalism that Preston mentioned - God existing in different forms at different times. The doctrine of the trinity is three persons, distinct yet inseparable. In the water example they’re not inseparable. Unfortunately all analogies for the trinity fail and we have to deal with it as it stands not through metaphor

[@naturallymemarie9650]

@@Pe0ads no, if you watch it he describes what modalism is. He's speaking against modalism. My example was not modalism either. H20 is still H20 no matter what form it takes just like God is still God whether its the Father the Son or The Holy Spirit, so it is inseparable.

[@Pe0ads]

NaturallyMeMarie A glass of water can not be liquid, solid, or vapour at the same time. By definition it assumes different forms. That’s not what God is like. God is eternally the Father, the Son, and the Spirit simultaneously, three persons distinct yet inseparable. God does not take different forms. Modalism is the teaching that God takes different forms at different times, just like the water example

[@naturallymemarie9650]

@@Pe0ads I think you're missunderstanding what im saying. I see your point but my perpective its its all H2O regardless of the form it takes. Of course God cant stop being the father to become the son then to become Holy Spirit. But the closest example to explain something taking 3 distinct forms but the essence of it being the same is H20. Though the example may fall short since all that God is can never fully be explained with finite understanding. For me I wrestled with trying to understand how God can exist in 3 persons but still be one God. The water example helped me to understand that concept.

[@avayamm]

I'm an atheist now but I was born into the Mormon church and was Mormon for 16 years. I feel terrible for Mormon missionaries. They're all 18 to 20 years old out on their own for the first time, quite possibility in an unfamiliar place who may not even speak their first language, not allowed any alone time the entire two years they're out. The depression percentages in Mormon missionaries are insanely high. These missionaries you're talking to in this video are only 18-21 years old. They're only kids.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

not allowed to be alone any time for two years? screams CULT to me!!

[@maddyboombaddybaddy6532]

Dont let the reality that mormonism is false destroy your faith in the Lord Jesus. Many ppl leave the mormon church and become atheist thats sad.

[@AnticipatedDay]

Preston, I think this exceptional. You were gracious, patient, you listened, you were gentle in exposing to the light their belief systems. You were motivated by the Love of God. Well done

[@joediaz4981]

BRO YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE TRINITY TO THESE BROTHERS @36mins- 39Minutes is SO GOOD! THE BEST EXPLANATION IV HEARD ONLINE NOT ONLY BECAUSE ITS FACTS BUT I BELIEVE ITS BECAUSE OF THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU ARE SPEAKING. THAT FLOW! FIRE!!!!! YOU ARE HIGHLY FAVORED SIR! KEEP DOING UR THANG

[@jcthomas3408]

Yeah, I like how he explained that God is not restrained by time or matter like we are. That helps understand how He can be one God in three persons.

[@PurposeDriven7_]

FOREEALLLL

[@jdilla999]

@@jcthomas3408 but the Bible says God has a Time, also the Trinity is obsolete.

[@jcthomas3408]

@@jdilla999 which verse are you thinking of? God works with us inside of time, but He created time and is not restrained by it. What makes you think the trinity is obsolete? The trinity shows up throughout the Bible, and God does not change. Malachi 3:6

[@jdilla999]

@@jcthomas3408 God, Yahweh, or Allah has a time. For it says in Psalms 90:4 "Each day to the Lord us like 1000 years." The Aramic (Hebrew) word for 1000 in this quote is eleph (אֶלֶף). You will find this statement again in the New Testament in 2 Peter 3:8, which uses the Idumean (Greek) word Chilioi (khil'ee-oy, χίλιοι) for 1000 & the word Kurios for Lord or master. Also the Quraan 32:5, which uses the Ashuric/Syriac (Arabic) word Alf (ألف) for 1000. So God does have a time, 1000 years is one day to God. So GOD has a life span as the beginning & end.

[@scotta8597]

36:25 Holy spirit kicks into higher gear.

[@essencemack5809]

😂😂😂😂

[@aisforamerica2185]

Amen! I couldn't witness without Him

[@Just_F.e.e]

"You go boy"- in Gina voice lol. This was 🔥🔥🔥 you broke it down, definitely will go back and take notes. God bless!

[@makejesusfamousministries]

I know huh ?! I have a similar video like this on my youtube channel.