Apparently Men Have No Standards

[@MrPlasmaCosmos]

"For women who always hear compliments, an insult stands out, but for men who always hear insults, a compliment stands out."

[@LawfulBased]

He'h, I will forever remember that one time a girl complimented me in public. 😏 I'm not a cool guy but I take pride in look like I am always calm even when I'm not. But that one time I was complimented by that chick, I lost control over my expression and my dumbfoundedness stood out like a nail. Arrrgh I hate it! 😃 Still what I most remember is that it even happened. The sheer shock of it. I think most women feel like _"they lose"_ if they compliment a dude.

[@KhronicD]

Men who are friends will talk the most ridiculously evil shit about each other to their faces. We will insult each other constantly. That's how men bond. Women on the other hand, will pretend to be the best of friends, then talk the most evil shit in private and behind their "friends" backs. While this is a generalization, it really is how the majority of the sexes act in their friend groups.

[@craiver00]

It's different for attractive men.

[@CrusadingJello]

Very true. I still remember most compliments I got through my life. The insults, even jokingly, are numerous and sort of fade away. But the compliments? Those stick with me for a very long time.

[@christopherconard2831]

The owner of a place I worked for, a woman, was showing a new manager around. When she got to my area she said "This is Chris. He's the one who actually knows what's going on around here." Then pointed out that if there was a problem with anything, I was usually the solution. It was nice that someone noticed that I (Unlike too many coworkers) actually knew my butt from a hole in the ground, and that I did extra to help things move smoothly. That was 30+ years ago and I still remember it.

[@HypnoPantsOnline]

Women: "I was nice to him, why didn't he understand that I wanted him?" Also women: "just because I was nice to you, doesn't mean I'm into you."

[@persona9709]

Reason number 87 of "Why I'm still single". The amount of hypocritical double standards alot of women make yet somehow (to them) in their minds it makes sense is in itself... Mental. These are also the same people who wonder why there is an "ever growing" rise in "in-cels".

[@Mirkk47]

First rule and second rule. Be attractive. Don't be unatractive.

[@SnerMerNer]

@@Mirkk47 I’m decently attractive but I’ve been single for nearly 20 years (37 y.o.). Gotta have money and charisma. If you don’t have these two things, you’re still invisible. Even with those things, it’s hard.

[@tay_paradox]

@@SnerMerNer idk tbh ur not attractive then should j fall in ur lap dawg

[@ChucktheSpicyChicken]

"A man would talk to a tree if it approached him first." -Xavier.

[@ewg5511]

Ngl man, those spriggans Would And not just in a physical sense

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Does the tree sing Enya songs in the voice of Sir Christopher Lee?

[@Kyuubi424]

@@ChucktheSpicyChicken To be fair, I'd probably want to ask a few questions if a literal tree approached me.

[@vulpineartist2250]

100% agree

[@HiddenWingler]

@@ewg5511 don't you mean "wood"? I'll see myself out...

[@Asdayasman]

I have standards. The standards are "please love me" and "don't be fat". They are apparently very high standards, so it took a while to find anyone.

[@richardscathouse]

No tattoos would be nice. They never age well.

[@rRekko]

"Be a real person" is my best friend's current standard for the past 4 years, the only 2 he found were pos women, so he added "don't be a pos" "don't do bad stuff because it's fun" "don't play with people's emotions unless it's a harmless joke" I was lucky, i found my wife back in 2015 before all the feminism started going overboard and man hating/abusing and normalization of being a hoe became a thing. She even has the hobbies i like in a partner.

[@cantinadudes]

@@richardscathouse tattoos can be removed these days so thats a bit of a weird standard if you're really worried about the future

[@lootmaster1337]

damn those are 2 really big standards there. Mine are "has to be female" and apparently that's asking for to much already

[@SmokeandSpirit]

Yeah but a little bit of thicc can be nice 😂

[@SplittingOfPrides]

Apparently falling in love is being desperate. Okay got it.

[@wahhnopfp]

Lotsa women desperate out here

[@jackblades90]

it is, stop it, have some respect for yourself.

[@Woodsman_797]

@@SplittingOfPrides Assuming you're male, Unironically yes.

[@memk]

How dare you not reading their mind before confessing.

[@knightmare3197]

​@@jackblades90 Developing feelings for someone is not indicative of a lack of self-respect. Liking someone else doesn't equate not liking yourself. Are you one of those "chad sigma alpha males" or just socially unadjusted?

[@onitenshi500]

Women's standards: - super attractive and/or buff - making at minimum $250k a year - sex god Conclusion: acceptable and reasonable standards Men's standards: - kind and loyal - will be there for support during bad times - preferably not obese (chubby is okay) Conclusion: unrealistic, asking for too much

[@HamHamHampster]

Standards are set by supply and demand. Men's low standards are simply a reflection of the available supply.

[@Xahnel]

Meat for grabbing is fine. Existing on the scale of a celestial body is not.

[@XDarkEcho]

Men are living in reality, and woman want a fantasy. It's a sad thing to see, not all women, of course, but sheesh the logic behind a woman thinking they can land a guy who's making $250k a year is dumb. If a man is making that much, why would he even pay attention to the gold digger, when he's more likely to get with the girl who works at the local McDonalds lol.

[@hertzwave8001]

you forgot no kid(s) from previous relationships, and no STDs

[@Jim87_36]

forgot to add to the women standards: - Must always be entertaining or interesting. - Can't let HER get bored with the relationship. -Wants her SO to show emotions then puts them down when they do

[@The_One_Over_There]

Have standards = red flag. Don't have standards = red flag. I see......

[@stefanootes9526]

Masaka

[@ettibbet5493]

Women out here are litterally roddy piper

[@kaidragneel3926]

Can't even reject them without the Whole World thinking you're gay the next Day

[@steventonche1037]

@@ettibbet5493 they smash somoan wrestlers with coconuts????

[@Nomimonyo]

Understandable lol

[@TheAurgelmir]

Hot Take: I think a lot of women are so used to people around them always being nice to them, that they can't fathom that this isn't something that happens to all humans all the time. As such, when they hear men actually find kindness attractive they can't compute.

[@NevisYsbryd]

People generally take their privileges for granted.

[@liarwithagun]

They just don't understand that the guys they are around (the top 5% of guys attractiveness wise) aren't treated the same by women as the bottom 95% of guys. Basically they think every guy is an Elon Musk tier of guy when most dudes are working class, except we are talking about treatment they receive from women rather than money.

[@YaboitheCadian]

Had my gf be confused when i said a big reason i was with her was because she was nice to me

[@2Scarhand]

This is genuinely true for some. You'll hear about 40+ y/o women and trans-men having various degrees of mental breakdowns because they suddenly aren't receiving the social generosity they were taking for granted.

[@EngrishVT]

we call em delusional

[@MusicHackersOfficial]

I rejected a girl a few years ago, she tried to ruin my life by telling baseless lies and manufactured false accusations to put me down. I lost 90% of my friends and some family members. I honestly scared of women being nice.

[@ReptillianStrike]

anecdotes like this are why I hate the "men are afraid to be laughed at, women are afraid to be killed" quote. It completely erases the very real social power women have, and how fucking easy it is to weaponize.

[@OtakuPursuit]

Good gosh, I hope things have gotten better for you🙏

[@wyattcrafty1649]

One chick led me on for years and then tried to ruin my life. That was almost 2 years ago. I still haven't fixed my life and name yet. I'm so upset at that, I am not sure if I'll trust people again. It hurts.

[@tnnaas]

I can't believe she killed all those people

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

I had a similar experience but it had nothing to do with me rejecting her. For some inexplicable reason which to this day I cannot parse, I was accused of stalking a girl I only knew by name. She ruined friendships that I had for close to a decade at that point. It also didn't help that she was buddy-buddy with a teacher who hated my father's guts for something that happened close to 15 years prior. Still have issues trusting people to this day. And for those who wonder about the teacher, the principal found out (who happened to be a friend of my father's) and he shitcanned that teacher the following year. No idea what happened to him since, could probably find out. No idea what happened to the girl either; all I know is that the friend that she was dating is definitely not married to her.

[@nblhrt92]

Most men's standards: -Be kind -Take care of yourself -Be loyal It's not that hard ladies.

[@user-yy7tw9hv9n]

Bonus points if you like the same stuff we like or want to learn how to do the same stuff we like.

[@madhouse9330]

Starting to realize my gf is a so called unicorn because she is all of those and she let me get her into warhammer she loves the universe and lore she's fallen in love with almost all of my hobbies damn I did get really lucky

[@plfaproductions]

​@@madhouse9330good for ya, that gives us hope, maybe love isn't that impossible after all...

[@Vfbmax1795]

@@madhouse9330 she sounds like a keeper ^^

[@thecompareablezombie]

Good points which is true, 3 at least.

[@SkreD]

You can't hit on women in the streets, can't hit on them in the clubs, can't hit on them at work and now you can't even shoot your shot at "friends". Bro, all that's left is dating apps? Really? It's the equivalent of me trying to fish edible fish is the sewers...

[@NevisYsbryd]

~13% of people 18-35 used one within the last year and around 30% of relationships started through one. Far more men use them than women, too. Probably mostly hobbies and mutual acquaintances.

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

Dating Apps have to spend their marketing budget somehow, and reinforcing both that they're the only acceptable way to meet people and reinforcing incredibly high standards are great ways to ensure continual profit.

[@plfaproductions]

​@@NevisYsbrydwait until that ends too

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

Let's not forget dating apps are a scam so the only real option is to eat popcorn as humanity dies out

[@EnraiChannel]

I will start accusing these people as dating app promoters.

[@davidcastillo4141]

A friend of mine rejected me, saying im too nice for someone like her. Years later when i saw her at a HS reunion, she had a swollen eye and said its allergies. I guess thats how nice she wants em.

[@Harkz0r]

That's usually just a half-hearted excuse to spare your feelings when what it really means is there's no attraction there. But at the same time, while it's hard to be completely without sympathy to those types, there is definitely an element of schadenfreude; "you made your bed, you get to lie in it" going on... But either way she needs to own her "type" or get some self-respect, because that is about as far from healthy as it gets.

[@badluckdice4447]

​@@Harkz0ror she really think he to nice for her, and she don't deserve this, i know someone like this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@johnroyal4054]

Been there. Everyone that met us thought we were dating and said we were perfect for each other. She told me I was too nice, like don't lie to me tell me why or I'll spend the rest of my life wondering why. I assume I'm just ugly

[@arkhost224]

So if a man is in a friendship with a woman, who he finds attractive physically, and then gains feelings for her because she is a good person and he like being around her...... thats a bad thing? Jesus women make it more complicated than it is.

[@wahhnopfp]

Not exactly. It's like with cat-calling. Cat-calling is only good when the "right guy" is doing it. There's been plenty of videos of guys exposing just that. Guaranteed, if he's "Mr. Right" for her and they are in a friendship and he makes a move, she would not have the same reaction as a regular friend trying the same thing.

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@wahhnopfpcongrats on admitting women are the problem by not being consistent

[@Blackraptor1234]

​@@toomanyaccounts eh could argue its partly on the man for fooling himself into thinkin he had a shot. Most men wont have a shot. And generally you know if you are that guy or not. So if you are taking that shot you also gotta be ready for the fallout thats gonna happen when you aren't the guy.

[@MrWilson812]

@@Blackraptor1234 You're really aren't helping your case on how women aren't the problem here.

[@SSoul0]

@@Blackraptor1234 Sounds like damned if you do, damned if you dont most of the time.

[@dissident1337]

Women on Twitter: "Men should have standards." Men: "Okay I have standards now." Women: "Why do you think you're entitled to have standards? Gross."

[@kitchenpotsnpans]

Criminals, Twitter is for criminals and those who have trauma from abuse and crime, they are unwell

[@HisMagnificence]

Twitter is always has been and always will be one ever expanding Woman Moment.

[@gwenmcgarry528]

You got it reversed, the second group is people on twitter

[@gisdaman]

> Women on Twitter: "Men should have standards." Translation: Men should have standards (of themselves, that benefit us women). Very often, when women talk about something, they will eventually make the topic revolve around them.

[@kitchenpotsnpans]

@gisdaman I think woman think standards = their skills. Men should more skill = successful job and creative and profitable investment business and make their own thing, basically voids everything what it is. Basically these woman use standard and capitalist and work term, relationship is only a budget contract, everything is only a contract, slave and master terms and conditions

[@immortaldarkred2154]

As a man, I'm kind of treated like just a number. Gotta toughen up because no one is going to save me. Also, No matter how many times I am told otherwise, I just cannot escape the fragile mentality of being tossed aside one day. Theres this quote that goes "Only women and children are loved unconditionally. Men are loved only under the condition that they provide something". Thanks for listening to my ramble. Is this a bad mindset to have when I am just 20?

[@hdatutoriales8119]

It is a valid mindset if every girl you ever met has treated you that way....but you can also change that mindset if you ever encounter a nice girl that proves you wrong......never happened to me tho

[@TheAchilles26]

It's accepting the reality of the world you live in.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

It's an entirely healthy mindset that will, ironically, end up earning you the love and approval of those around you, rather than leaving you unfulfilled and resentful over being mislead.

[@heikkint]

Yes. At 50+ these things are a thing to think about when so many depend on you and you are getting old and stretched thing like Bilbo Baggins but you just have to go on. And you can't hop on a boat and sail away either. But you also have a circle, a family. Or just dolls on the wall in various forms (or in your steam account) if you took a wrong turn at some point.

[@gs4011]

Women, children and dogs*

[@cdsnutts]

I rejected a woman once, and she went nuclear. She was one of those "nice girls."

[@bananashoplifter3440]

Same, in my instance she eventually spiraled down and now thinks she's a guy lol (citing an anime character for the reason)

[@maulmemes]

@@bananashoplifter3440 That's one hell of a crashout.

[@TheSlammurai]

@@bananashoplifter3440 You dodged so many bullets you're now "The One".

[@cdsnutts]

​@bananashoplifter3440 wow, that's bad. My experience was her screaming that I'd freak out too if someone rejected me, and I just said no.

[@DingoEnderZOE2]

Something alot of men underestimate is that subconsciously women are under the belief that men are ALWAYS gonna be into them and would jump at an opportunity to spend time with them if an offer is extended and the thing is majority of the time they are right. Hence when a woman were to make a move themselves and the man ACTUALLY rejects them it can send a HUGE shock to their system especially to the women who's used to men bending over backwards for them.

[@alphons1456o]

"You men need to get standards" Men's standards: Be nice and someone I love to be with

[@actuallyKriminell]

and they still have a 99% fail rate

[@OwO377]

​@@actuallyKriminell indeed

[@HumanPerson_final]

Be kind, Be honest, Enjoy being around us. That’s basically it. Most men, when it comes down to it, will overlook physical flaws if it means they’re emotionally fulfilled by their partner and that partner values the love the man gives in return. It’s not complicated. We’re just an idiot generation.

[@ethanfreeman1106]

It's true though, most men are too easy. I actually have zero standards, but that's because I'll have to meet her and talk to her before I know if I like her or not. Meanwhile most men here are just like "she only needs not to be fat and be a little bit kind" like my dude, if you base your decisions on a list and you can't even make it a long list of fun qualities, how am I supposed to respect that? If I were a woman and got "selected" by you, would I feel proud?

[@disalazarg]

​@@ethanfreeman1106hell hath no fury like that of a woman that's met a man whose standards she does not meet. And no, actual romantic interest does not matter; the hate I've gotten online for saying that I only date smart women is amazing.

[@TheMightyDM]

Men and women CAN be "just friends" But I don't think most women would actually enjoy being in the "just friends" category For one, I ain't gonna buy you lunch every time you want to go out. You're an adult, you can buy your own meal. However, if you are a FRIEND, I will help you hide a body

[@badluckdice4447]

I have just friends women, and I don't pay for them, I don't buy them lunch, if they don't ask, and if ask, then I buy only if they return money after, it's just normal friendship.

[@BobBurnham-o6w]

Nah. Be one of those friends that always has something better to do.

[@PedroHawk1]

Idk, mate, I wouldn't help anyone hide a body.

[@gwenmcgarry528]

That's literally what most women want lol

[@krel7160]

There's a lot of people who fall in that "just friends" category. Anyone I work with is on that list. Will I buy you a drink from the vending machine? Sure. But I do that for the guys too when I'm getting a drink for myself, and it's a courtesy I offer to whichever coworker I'm working with that day. As far as an actual lunch though? Eh. No. If we're at a restaurant, I'm paying my meal and you're paying yours. Only exception is if we explicitly agreed on who was paying or if it was some kind of favor. Usually that happens with the guys though. "Hey man, thanks for helping me move that stuff outta the garage, let's get something to eat, my treat"

[@Under_the_Iceberg]

... Are there seriously people out there insulting men for falling in love with women who are... _(checks notes)_ *nice* to them?

[@notrelatedtobacon1282]

Yeah, and there is this absurd notion that women have that, they shouldnt date men they're friends with I mean youd think the best place to find a good person to date is the people you actively keep and want in your life, no?

[@bryanwoods3373]

Yep. The same people that think men should automatically be kind and nice to women just because they're women.

[@Knofbath]

Spending all your time with a woman that you can't ever progress past "platonic friendship" with, is a form of self-harm. You kinda have to shoot your shot and move on if it fails. Time is opportunity cost.

[@reedy_9619]

Probably just as many as women being nice to men. Probably wouldn’t be many depending on where you live

[@dead-claudia]

@@notrelatedtobacon1282thing is i avoid those women anyways bc they're usually toxic even as friends i have low standards for who i'll be friends with and they almost always fail even those, and they show hints they'd fail them within just minutes. my standards? don't be an ass, a killjoy, or a weirdo. that's literally it. it's not much. i just watch out for it like an absolute hawk bc i've been burned before, couple of times even finding their way into my flashbacks and nightmares from the elementary school bs i dealt with.

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

My standards for dating: 1) Be a woman (I don't care if you're feminine or a tomboy tbh) 2) Be kind. Just be a decent person, and not one of those crazy man haters. 3) Be loyal. Speaks for itself. 4) I don't care what breast size you have, booba is booba. 5) Don't treat me like an ATM or a walking wallet. I am not a loan officer or a bank.

[@morganmattish]

real

[@DurzoBlint178]

1.) Is optional at this point...ngl💀

[@bluemage67]

Difficulty: Sisyphus

[@nguyencaotri3879]

Wrong. Standards too high bro.

[@Jumpyman_thegamerYT]

@@DurzoBlint178 Also true.

[@chrisbingley]

"This woman isn't treating me like shit. That's hot." is one hell of an inditement of modern women.

[@Spike2276]

More like "this woman noticed i exist. I am now attracted."

[@Nqall_94]

@@Spike2276 I feel like this was meant to be a correction of the above statement where it was used to be 'an inditement of modern women.' Your correction doesn't refuse this statement but instead makes it even worse of an inditement on modern women. Please clarify what the point of your comment is.

[@Spike2276]

@@Nqall_94 Most of the time (in my experience, and the experience of others i know) it's hard to even get to the part where a woman treats you poorly. Usually it's just a straight up ignore. OP is not wrong. Consider my comment an extra hurdle to get to the point of being treated well. Like an add-on rather than a correction.

[@legion9259]

The moral of the story is, "Men have their own desires bad"

[@plfaproductions]

No, it's "man existing bad"

[@actuallyKriminell]

Men being actual people and not just robo servants bad

[@OwO377]

@@actuallyKriminell very true and vice versa

[@takeonedaily]

"Man existing without purpose for women. Women everywhere upset"

[@ewg5511]

@@takeonedaily There's been an article quite recently, that literally can be summed up as: *Men of Ukraine die in a war, women most affected*

[@WanderingyNephilim]

I hate this idea that a man cannot be a person with thoughts and feelings and emotions and must be some kind of emotionless robot that shouldn't be allowed to fall in love with a woman.

[@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь]

"With a wrong woman" They kinda correct with that, you shouldn't fall in love with a girl that hates you but mimic nice girl behavior to her advantage

[@nielsjensen4185]

The irony here is that this is CAUSED BY THE SAME TOXIC MASCULINITY THEY CELEBRATE WITH THE SIGMA GRINDSET! Also, they're socially allowed to feel anger and rage, which are emotions if you ask any mentally healthy human, without being allowed to recognise them as such and due to never learning a fully realised emotional world they react violently when exposed to an emotion they can no longer cope with with just anger so, they turn to rage, and rage always gets their partner hurt or killed. There's a reason so many men go "I never intended to, I just got so angry..." when arrested afterwards.

[@plfaproductions]

​@@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ьwith any woman then lol, jk but the diference is literally that when you admit and she feels the same is a relationship and if she don't your vilanized and discarded like trash, are we suposed to try anything when it's all or nothing and 99 out of 100 times it's a loss ? Also bellow the 20% of most valued males we basically aren't people for women so that's even more reason to give up love and repress any love your body tries to feel for anyone outside your family

[@EngrishVT]

this is nothin new we are viewed as an ATM

[@collenjets123]

but because of the inconsistency in their logic, that won't hopld true right after, as they'll whine and moan about how you don't have thoughts, feelings, emotions etc. Literally cannot win. Islam may have been correct about women.

[@Sylvine]

I just came to the conclusion that women simply don't like men that much. That's the only reasonable explaination left.

[@wesnohathas1993]

That would explain a lot tbh

[@jamescraig7164]

wait is that why they're trying to feminize men? so they can pretend to be lesbians? IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!! lol

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

It's not that men have no standards. It's that men's standards are VERY simple.

[@OwO377]

We all related. If someone hate the simplest thing it best just leave it same to vice versa.

[@CrysResan]

Women's standards anymore are insanely high. Every 4/10 think she's deserves an 11/10 man. Funny thing with men. You can look like a 4/10 for pure physical attractiveness, but if you have similar interests to us and are nice that can be bumped up like 2-4 points. Male standards are far more realistic. Or they should be at least. In clown world, you'd be about as likely to find these simple fairly easy standards as you'd be to find a big tidded elf princess.

[@MephiticMiasma]

First, she must be a woman. 😉

[@MegaManJake]

​@@CrysResanAre you saying you WOULDN'T shoot for a big tidded anime elf girl if she existed? XD

[@denkerbosu3551]

Yes, in fact, I remember this study that got random men and women, they were shown photos of average women and men and asked to rate them. Long story short, most women found most men below average, most men found most women average or above.

[@jwt6577]

Most women's advice on dating has one unspoken caveat: She has to find him attractive before he does anything. Otherwise there's nothing a guy can do to move anything forward.

[@michaelmarsh1723]

I mean, there is, but modern society tends to frown on ye olde bonk over the head and drag her back to the cave strat. I think it's for the better in many respects, personally.

[@dracul1838]

@@jwt6577 the right man cant do nothing wrong,the wrong man cant do nothing right

[@LetMeFLY649]

funny that no? if the genders were reversed the women would call that sexism or some other ist-ism-phobe-whatever.

[@noriantiri9310]

@@LetMeFLY649 seriously you don't speak to people or what? Like do you assume you are the only one who has common sense? Obviously mutual physical attraction is necessary in a relationship and both men and women know and acknowledge that?

[@LetMeFLY649]

@@noriantiri9310 in what way did I insinuate I was the only one with common sense? I only pointed out how the dynamics of current societal norms. In no part in my comment insinuates whatever it may be that you are alluding to and quite frankly in no way have I denied mutual physical attraction being a factor in relationships. All I did was make a comment stating the obvious. I don't know why you seem so offended but I suggest chilling out before you blow a gasket over something as minor as a nothing burger comment under another comment in a youtube video.

[@Choalith_Ikanthe]

The funny thing about women asking where men's "standards" are is that (A) many women in social media spaces have already said that men aren't allowed to have standards to begin with - judging women is unacceptible - and (B) that they can't comprehend someone would have the same standards between Friendship and Love, because they put such an enormous difference between the two standards in their own mind. The gulf between "Ick" and "Fuckable" is miles wide, and then how many of them throw out the 6-6-6 barrier to go from "Fuckable" to "Good"? It's like trying to describe what it's like to be a caveman, starving and clawing for meat scraps to a hardcore Vegan Apologist. "Food is Food? How dare you not have standards!"

[@CoCooMa11]

I think the biggest challenge for women is.... Be nice.... Honestly, it´s so rare that you can´t even find a woman anymore

[@jaidora]

Don’t forget about being considerate, a lot of women have been narcissists lately

[@wahhnopfp]

And not even to men either. They can be nice to other women. Hell, given some of the videos that's come out over the years, toss in animals too. Just be nice.

[@Lonevessel]

Trying to find someone who's genuine and down to earth are the rarest indeed.. it's even sadder that most relationships last for a week, it seems like.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

I'm sure you tell yourself this is true.

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

"You can't even find a woman anymore" Correction: "I can't even find a woman anymore." Just don't expect it to be easy.

[@worthlesstrash9662]

Women will never understand how starved for any kind of love and affection non top 30%% men are and how easy it is to consider even barebones good interactions with women as interest, because that's the only thing we can get. Literally 2 entire different universes.

[@deadturret4049]

It reminds me of that one trans female to male person who, upon learning how badly isolated we are and how little people care about us, they broke down crying on camera. I hate to generalize, but a lot of women flat out can't handle the crap we have to put up with every day of our lives.

[@ELPapayapa]

If it's the one I remember, she became an advocate for men and unfortunately altf4 herself because of the trauma she experienced during her experience.

[@uihirasawa843]

Even if you're one of the "top 30%" you're likely not getting any of that either, at least not genuinely. Consider how many of those women are only there for what the man has (usually wealth) and will leave if there's even the slightest hint that things could go south for the man. You could be like Jeff Bezos, worth a trillion, and yet his wife still left and took half of his shit.

[@greatestscott6599]

​@@ELPapayapa The person you're thinking of didn't transition, but went undercover as a man for research.

[@SupreMamaco]

Ain't it that Nora Vincent that later on unalived herself due to smt like traumas from the exp?

[@Telleryn]

Some women "I can't believe men are only after women for their bodies, why can't they be attracted to our personalities?". - Men: develop feelings for women who demonstrate they are kind and generally good people. - Those previous women "ew not like that"

[@bjcantrell1990]

Men fall in love Women most affected

[@chgjake2230]

Onion news headline

[@vantaisback2660]

Sssh guys, don't tell her ... let her cook!

[@BobBurnham-o6w]

The literal truth though.

[@TurtleChad1]

Honestly just be nice to everyone. I don't know why people are so mean to each other for no reason.

[@SoloUrBoyForReal]

Facts

[@Lonevessel]

@@TurtleChad1 True, and it's hard to explain why humans hate each other for the wrong reasons. Needles to say, it's the media's fault.

[@roguetheoutlander8800]

Sign of dominance Like, if u have some question why humans are so evil etc. Just look at Chimpanzees and it all makes sense

[@Mr.Marbles]

of course you dont know you stupid turtle. am i doing it right guys

[@YksiSuomalainen]

@@roguetheoutlander8800 You gain more from creating a large network of friends. Makes no sense creating enemies for no reason.

[@pubcle]

There are basically three things men have interest in: 1. _Some_ degree of physical attraction. 2. Nurturing, cares for him, gives attention. 3. Loyalty/purity.

[@NewtypeVigilante]

The only standard I have is to just be loyal. Impossible I guess.

[@popajoekiller]

It’s looking like that now a days

[@WyattOShea]

Loyal and makes me food oh and female (optional).

[@cloudunderweather9554]

Me thinking of 3 people I know who have relationship problems: 1st guy: women doesn't bath, cook, or clean, even for herself. 2nd guy: women physically and verbally abuses him. 3rd guy: women doesnt show respect to him in public and in private .....Yeeeah, I hope that's truly NOT the only standard you have buddy.

[@NaderinZim]

@@cloudunderweather9554 Tbf, one must think that "It's a functioning human being" that respects you is included on loyal, since no one is loyal to someone they don't respect.

[@drekbleh7081]

@@WyattOShea Peak bisexual vibes

[@kaollachan]

don't forget that meme about man wanting women to speak to them first, yes WE WOULD speak to a tree if it made the first move

[@blazermettro2059]

@kaollachan Facts bro. Sadly, facts.

[@greatclubsandwich5612]

Are you kidding me! If a tree approached me first I'd go out of my way to accommodate the relationship... Straight becomes an Alaskan bush man living out in the woods with my loyal Entwife, just call me Treebeard.

[@dead-claudia]

i mean, who wouldn't be deeply impressed by a tree making a move? 😂

[@henry_tsai]

@@dead-claudia Vietnam war veteran I guess.

[@scienceandponies]

@kaollachan You're damn right I'm gonna date the dryad!

[@Cloperella]

"Men don't express their feelings!" "I find you very attractive and would like to date you." "Nooo, you ruined the friendship!"

[@Zero-Sekai_]

these are the type of girls that will complain about "where are the nice men at"

[@plfaproductions]

With the good woman is the best response

[@OwO377]

​@@plfaproductionseveryone agree that statement

[@Unethical.FandubsGames]

Woman: "I like bad boys!" Man: "Uh... sure." Goes off and gets married. That same Woman: "Men are such pigs! Where is that nice guy from 10 years ago?"

[@simpledj509chromo7]

Yup. And we're avoiding the narcissistic hoes asking this question.

[@BitterSweetChili]

"where are the nice men?" "not around you, obviously.why should they?"

[@-tHeGaMe-]

As an average man I can confirm that women who treat us nicely are a rarity.

[@grapenut6094]

@@-tHeGaMe- Went to Vegas once, got asked 5 times if I wanted to pay for sex, did my best to ignore them, they said f you every single time. Told the last one to get a real job called her a skank three times and walked away, the breakdown she had was glorious, uberchad vibes, almost died laughing on the other side of the street.

[@tatuira93]

As a sub-average man, I have no idea what that is.

[@idratherhidethat6033]

@@kimilsungthefirst6840 related? nah father hating is common too

[@badluckdice4447]

No? You just ignore women's who will be nice to you.

[@idratherhidethat6033]

@@badluckdice4447 how so?

[@AetherLemmie]

“Be nice to them” and they struggle to even do that without hidden resentment 😂

[@dragonfire5568]

So many women seem to think that men can just spontaneously become 6 ft tall, muscular, and conjure a 6 figure salary into existence whenever they want.

[@fresnel149]

On the upside, in a few years we'll all have six-figure salaries and still not be able to afford rent or groceries because "six figures" is minimum wage in 1990 dollars, so us dudes have that going for us.

[@SneakyBastard-oi4eb]

@@fresnel149 depending on how things go in the US, it'll be MONEY PRINTER GO BBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@BobBurnham-o6w]

Yes. Or they expect every man who "can't" to politely fill up their friend list and anonymously sub to their OnlyFans. Ninja please.

[@blshouse]

You can't? (Says the old, bald, 5' 9" 300lb guy ... well, at least I'm pulling down 6 figures.)

[@SpookSkellington]

Requirements: "be over 18, have a pulse, be nice."

[@are3287]

Dont need all of those tbh

[@mr.phantom674]

pulse: optional

[@wahhnopfp]

KZbinrs: "The last two seem reasonable"

[@JohnWick-rh1zz]

Doesnt even have to be human

[@NevisYsbryd]

Hey, pulseless vampire gf could work.

[@namelessarcher3261]

It's less that "men just fall for a woman if she's nice," and more "men are so used to being treated poorly that if you treat him nicely he may misinterpret that as you having feeling for him."

[@ektran4205]

well all of these women either have bad or no fathers and were raised by sing mothers

[@support_mage]

yo she's been PUTTING THEM DOWN since her MMO days... dangerous woman.

[@JayTohab]

Shaking and crying rn

[@quackduckquack]

Where does she hide all those bodies?

[@shawnm1902]

Worse than thd EA and Activision ditch of dead development studios. Would probably make Pol Pot and Stalin blush.

[@dennydude]

I'll give you gold so you can upgrade your gear. I care about your wellbeing. *Doom music starts and Alana pumps a shotgun.

[@stefanootes9526]

A real life black widow XD

[@Blueybeak]

they're offended by men wanting women to show them basic human decency

[@Sypaka]

My standards: - Have a functioning brain - Be wholesome and polite. - Take care of me, when I am sick and I will take care of you, if you are sick. - Be loyal. - Don't complain about my hobbies, if you can't handle complaints about yours. - I am not your wallet. I will buy stuff for you on my own accord, if I think it's cute, it's sweets or you may like/wear it.

[@jjkk1630]

I've had a (french) woman tell me "I don't understand why men think being sexually active is so taboo, I started having sex as soon as I got into high school" and I could only be like "I'm sorry I didn't have a cadre of people lining up to fuck me as a high school kid".

[@notrelatedtobacon1282]

It will never fail to baffle me how women cannot understand how disgusting it is to be used my so many men and treat it all as a game Men are highly territorial, its deeply wired in us men to be disgusted by a woman whose easy to dominate and has been claimed by so many men but never stuck with any of those men

[@wiirawiira]

@@notrelatedtobacon1282 to me the funniest part is how women try to copy us by saying that "it's disgusting for men to have high body counts too!", lol, that's not going to fool anyone with a brain. a guy with a high body count means he's already very attractive to women, and you can clearly see women thirsting over him. unlike women with a high body count, it just means she's easy, any 5/10 can get 30+ bodies a year without really trying

[@dead-claudia]

@@notrelatedtobacon1282the issue's not so much that as it is a women sleeping around with everyone might not be loyal. either they're radically transparent about why (polyamory isn't for everyone - ik i'm the exception, and i maintain strict standards on transparency and expectations for a reason) or they can't be trusted at all. and when i look into relationships with such people, i will inquire about stuff like how often they get tested as well before dating such a person. i've had a successful relationship with such a person (life circumstances forced us into a situation where we lived multiple time zones away and couldn't see each other irl and we spent over a year waiting before giving up), but there's a lot of due diligence that has to happen first.

[@thenonexistinghero]

@@dead-claudia Loyalty isn't the issue. It's the fact that women who sleep with too many men get impossible standards and will never be happy. The man they want is a culmination of the best they've had in all their past relationships and that simply doesn't exist. They basically ruin their own happiness that way and that indirectly affects other relationships. Do keep in mind that this is also kinda the case for men, just not as much (but men have other things that do heavily affect them and make it impossible for one to become truly happy as a result).

[@GegoXaren]

There is a word starting with a W and ending with an E for people like that.

[@123SuperBeast]

"Men falling in love ruins friendships" 🙃🙃

[@boomknight1015]

I've noticed. Many women who shame this and push men falling in love is bad. Often flat out use their male friends to get him to pay for her going out with out calling it a date. Not in every case, but it happens enough I assume she knows what she is doing.

[@zeriel9148]

Definitely doesn't work the other way around, heh. If they flirt with you and you turn them down, holy hell be ready for the most petty payback imaginable.

[@TentacleLord]

@@boomknight1015 She gets boyfriend benefits without paying girlfriend prices.

[@deadturret4049]

Married couples: "I married my best friend" So what exactly are we supposed to do then?

[@ithildiess8305]

That sounds extremely toxic. If you are friends never pay for them split the bill or pay separately. Normal friends wouldn't care about that. Its a major red flag if they start asking you to pay. Sure pay ONCE. But then say you pay the next one okay? If they say no to that then no dont pay. If they wont pay after that. Byebye.

[@Xenolord]

We're not allowed to have standards. When we do, we're 'toxic' and 'difficult'.

[@yaroslavyevsieiev5890]

"Been nice to a man is a horrible standart" I fking wonder why men lonely and women dont get bfs anymore

[@plfaproductions]

Our species is extinct

[@greatclubsandwich5612]

We're cooked... Every country is in below replacement rates and no sign of it getting better. The West will wither and die and Mormons shall inherit the Earth.

[@tatuira93]

"women don't get bfs anymore" [citation needed]

[@idratherhidethat6033]

women do get bfs, they can share most attractive and powerful guys

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@tatuira93 "situationships" aka they share the top F-boys.

[@ryvengeance6467]

I once had a girlfriend ask me why I loved her. I told her because she was nice to me. She didn't understand and thought I was holding back.

[@OwO377]

Well she did get the answer so what to expect.

[@oboromusha80]

Next time just reply: "I never said I did." And watch as her ego sinks to nothing just before you add "I'm just here to make sure your eggs rot before I dump you for someone younger." I think this is a valuable experiment because you may actually witness a woman explode in real time... It's for science.

[@campoyo3788]

@@oboromusha80 Who hurt you? 👀

[@Xahnel]

​@@campoyo3788 you could probably guess from context clues.

[@oboromusha80]

@@campoyo3788 Oh no... You can't understand jokes, huh? Who hurt YOU? lol

[@pokebronyborn]

I've never been in a relationship, and at some point my brain just kind of accepted that I am somehow fundamentally unlovable. Every time a female identifying person talks to me, its a genuine surprise, and I have no idea how to react.

[@ektran4205]

women tend not to be staight forward with what they ask for

[@justinleonard6183]

Life got a lot better ever since I started warhammer 40K now I spend all my time and money on my army and don’t even think about women anymore and I’m a lot happier

[@Shinesart]

Praise the Emperor.

[@PewKittens]

The emperor protects…your heart

[@SomeGuy1234X]

Did you stop showering too? Asking as a 40k fan.

[@alexandrub8786]

@@justinleonard6183 Emperor protects brother.

[@Stormdraka]

​@@SomeGuy1234XThis one Inquisitor, this is the Nurgle worshipper

[@acewing3889]

"men have no standards" because if men demanded more (virgin, can cook&clean etc..) that's impossible difficulty for them. Not even the majority of women qualify for those "no standards' of not being fat and taking care of their appearance which is wild to me.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

What is wild to me is that more people should know how to cook but don't know how to cook thus fast foods take over and food poisons everyone

[@sin978]

It's funny because when men do have standards, they get labeled as some -ist or -phobe

[@luminaxar]

If you have standards/expectations as a man you are labeled misogynist.

[@Svol09]

I think the fact that many men are "easy" is not because low standards but most likely because we would like to meet someone and give them and us a chance to get to know each other better instead of rejecting them for appearance reasons or other physical stuff.

[@Awesomotron2k]

To be fair there is a world of difference between "be nice" and "be a virgin" if we are talking standards.

[@KommandeurMumm]

Can confirm... had almost exclusively female friends for about 15 years of my life. Caught feelings for quite a few of them. Nothing came of it, because my feelings were not reciprocated. It was a better time then and none of them were being rude about it, or mocked me or anything. Most of them were polite and just let me know that they didn't feel the same. I accepted it and we stayed friends. With one of them I'm still friends 25 years later, but there are no more romantic feelings involved. One of them started crying after I told her I got feelings for her. Apparently she made the unfortunate experience that guys up to that point only pretended to be friends with her to get in her pants, and she thought it had happened again. After a while and the support of other friends, we could clear up the situation and maintain the friendship until our lifes drifted apart.

[@sebastianprimomija8375]

Guys if you get friendzoned move on don't waste your time being an orbiter. Women love attention and say it proudly on platforms like tiktok all the time. They get pissed off when you find an actual gf. They're just using you. Be smort 🧠 I wanted to add: I remember in highschool in my Junior year I asked my crush out after years of knowing her and hanging out and she tried to friendzone me and at the time I didn't know what being friendzone was. I by some miracle noped out of that situation feeling awkward, later to meet my ex-girlfriend when that happened suddenly she starts to coming onto me. Thats when I thought "This bsh 😒" thats when I understood that women will friendzone you to keep you as plan B. She wanted to reel me in with an I love you and I wasn't having it. I told her "That's cool but I need to get to my class." Never spoke to her again. I knew her since 5th grade. Sometimes you have to harden your heart, assess you own worth and walk away. People in this comments want to engage in apologetics on behalf of girls and women but they don't know the pain of confessing your love or work up the courage at such a young age full of angst and being dismissed like that. Women will never. I'm not having it. Don't be an orbiter, don't be her rebound, don't let yourself be the guy she settles for. Because *_you_* are more than that.

[@Ieatpaste23]

I think it's also a power dynamic. You have total power if you string them along. Also, it's a won/lost thing. If you're simp goes off and finds a girlfriend, then you lost to the other girl. It's something only a narcist or someone with low self-esteem would do.

[@DurzoBlint178]

@@Ieatpaste23 *your...the way you have it written confuses the reader if you are referring to the girl or to the simp☝️🤓

[@SmokeandSpirit]

I've had relationships that were born out of friendships. The friendzone is an artificial concept. Certainly many won't go that way, but they most certainly can. Though if you're direct and ask if they are interested and they say they aren't then its a totally different issue to pursue further. Don't. Have more self respect than that. On that note i most certainly agree.

[@jake33w]

Yup if a person isn’t interested in you romantically find another person who will be. You can still be friends with them but don’t be sitting there waiting for the chance that feelings that already weren’t there could develop because if those feelings were there they wouldn’t have rejected you in the first place

[@actuallyKriminell]

@@Ieatpaste23 These girls get constantly rejected by the men they are attracted to. Chads just pork them and throw them away like the hot garbage that they are which in turn destroys the girls self esteem

[@wherethetatosat]

Gets even worse when you hear women say they want to be friends first and that's how they choose their boyfriends. We're both playing by different rules.

[@Darth_Conans]

It's kind of wild that whenever men actually do open up and directly say what they want and how simple/easy it is, there are always women ready to tell them "no you don't" or that it's bad or wrong.

[@LeviathanXVer3]

Shocker, most men get treated like trash in life, while women are placed on pedestals so they can't understand. It's no wonder why men find it attractive when someone off the opposite sex shows any form of kindness.

[@EntitySteel]

It's also no wonder that women treat men like shit, conversely, because if they don't then they'll get some mentally ill psychotic puppy jacked full of testosterone following them around.

[@Francisco_X_Manjarrez]

@@LeviathanXVer3 The thing is we, as men, are whom put them in said pedestals. Women are human, no more, no less: as such, they can make mistakes, be stupid, lie and practice bad behaviour. We just need to treat them like another human being, without dehumanizing them or worship them, that's idolatry (I'm catholic). Sorry if my english is bad, bro: is not my first language. Totally agree with your point.

[@bobbyhinner3225]

I just want to be treated like a human being and be actually cared about. That isn't possible.

[@Exquisite_Cadaver]

If you’re accustomed to unkind words and treatment, even basic kindness will seem exceptional.

[@phnx-en7hi]

I have been traumatized by people who I thought were "friends" so I have become a person with trust issues. Women being genuinely nice to me will actually make my head explode.

[@Stormcrow_1]

Just assume if they're being nice to you, they just want something. And that should get your cranial explosion issues under control.

[@Clown_the_Clown]

Likewise. I would have people tell me something was okay, only to ghost me for it the day after.

[@Kukaahi]

I get that.

[@m3chr0mans3r6]

@@Stormcrow_1 Or he'll become paranoid and go to a mental hospital

[@termnus77]

@@Stormcrow_1 People only talk to others if they want something out of them from my personal experience 😅

[@lyravain6304]

There's some pretty big differences between "I like this person", "I love this person", "I want to pork this person", "I love this person romantically", "I love this person romantically and can see myself with them for a long time" and "this person is available to be with". For most of us men; yes, we WILL come to care for the women we spend time with, especially when they are nice to be around, kind, loyal and take care of themselves. But even so, that doesn't mean our brain immidiately goes monkey "OOH OOH PORK! MUST FILL HOLE!" and it also doesn't go "so what if she's with someone else/not interested/not in a good place etc". We're not just animals looking for the next hole to stuff. Besides, just because most of us have few criteria, that doesn't make it 'low standard', it's just "these are the absolute necessity" because we don't (typically) care for things like how tall or 'gifted' a woman is or what color their hair is. Ironically, for the gender that's most typically called 'shallow', we care about how we're treated more than we care about looks.

[@Hekinsieden]

IDK I think more than 50% of Men are mindless porkers, sex addicted neurotic goobers. If Men actually cared about how they are treated instead of being slaves to the puss there wouldn't be all these Amber Heard type stories.

[@OwO377]

Fact

[@jasonalcatraz5817]

This. I get what Alana is saying, but it feels baffling to me because my best friend in the whole world is a woman. I absolutely love this person and would die to protect her. But I have ZERO romantic interest in her. She means the world to me, but I don't want to date or pork her. Why? I dunno, I just DON'T. I love her to death, but it's not romantic.

[@Matty88301]

@@jasonalcatraz5817 I don't wish to judge your situation with your friend in a negative way, but i'd bet there will be something about your situation that causes you to lack that romantic connection. Most of the time for either gender it's the ability(genuine or belief) to secure more attractive or desirable partners elsewhere.

[@feywinterfox9630]

It’s something I have been thinking about recently with what you said. I got to thinking about it when someone else was talking about how men can fall in love over time but they didn’t hit this for women which has gotten me to thinking. Do women *really* fall in love over time? Now I ask that we not waste time with the “not all women” stuff. I know women can but the amount is stupidly low! If anything over the years watching the women I know in my like, family, friends, job/work, social circles, etc, right down to random women on the streets…it’s like it’s the opposite for women. Instead of falling in love over time, a lot of them regardless if you are good, bad, trying, not trying, a lot of them fall out of…love might be too strong for a few of them or maybe it’s their idea of, but a lot fall out of love over time and a lot have been for a while. You could easily chalk this up to the guy messing up but a good amount of women will admit they are with a good guy but don’t wanna be with them anymore. Just seems like for a lot of women that anything close to being content is game over. I could be 100% wrong, just something I was being tripping off of the last few months.

[@BeastGuyver]

imagine how poorly you need to be treated to fall in love just because someones nice to you, you now understand most mens life experience.

[@extoyshred2957]

I mean we do they just aren't as detailed and extensive as women's

[@mothbreeder641]

"no standards" but 99% of women somehow fail to meet those nonexistent standards. Really makes you think..

[@alecdickens1042]

1. Be nice 2. Have common ground 3. Be loyal, even during rough times

[@notrelatedtobacon1282]

You mean self glorifying and pretentious?

[@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn]

I am just apathetic to humanity as a whole. I've yet to develop feelings of concern for a human. Granted, Im not afraid of rejection: my entire life has been a series of rejections and mockery. Speaking as a paralyzed, disabled man. I've never seen as much hatred from females as towards myself and other disabled men.

[@Kukaahi]

I hear you.

[@liarwithagun]

They also really hate foreigners too. Basically anyone that falls out of the 'social order'. It makes them think they are acceptable targets for their sadism/hatred.

[@Dariomo1]

Stay strong king! Never let something like that get you down

[@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn]

@@Dariomo1 Thanks! I'm doing well. I just purchased land and built my home earlier this summer. I just made the best of my life with what I had. I don't mind being alone with a few pets, I'm happy.

[@nyankers]

silver lining is that you're naturally repelling human trash you're better off without, I guess

[@mrosskne]

Well yeah. Why would they have standards? Women decide who reproduces, not men.

[@10N1Z3D]

As a man, we have 3 expectations: 1: be nice to us 2: don't fuck with our hobbies 3: don't fuck with our family(families)

[@OwO377]

Realistic fact

[@CrazedKen]

3. Remove the “with” still makes sense

[@HortonSalm]

4. Don't cheat on us Happened to my buddy, hadn't even been married six months before it all started falling apart.

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@HortonSalm his mistake was marrying. Send my condolences, and tell him to learn from this

[@NotOneOfUs]

"Most, not saying all, but most." Alana comes right out the gate and decodes general speech for the women in her audience.

[@trolleymouse]

And most still won't understand it.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

*Study finds majority of women struggle to understand general statements.* Literally every woman in the comments: _"That's not true! I understand general statements just fine!"_

[@chadsmith7519]

As a married dude, that is how I found my wife. She was nice to me and actually enjoyed my company.

[@herohut725]

That woman seems to think all men can get women as easy as women can get men. Clearly she's doesn't understand the trouble most avarage guys have to go through to talk to women. Then again, as a man I'd talk to a woman who's into my hobbies so we'd have that as our bond. I stopped pursuing women about 12 years ago. Not one woman has asked me out yet. I don't like sounding braggy but I take care of myself, (cooking, baking, cleaning), I like to work for what I want. I'm about avarage body type (if I could make the time I'd work out more) and if I had to rate my looks, I'd say I'm a 5 out of 10 most of the time. 7.5 when I dress up nicely for important events.

[@EnraiChannel]

Most women really have no idea because most men are invisible to them too. I kind of hate writing that, but time and time again I have had to rediscover what you jut said.

[@takeonedaily]

Women only see about 20% of men as actual people. Of course their beliefs on men are skewed. They don't see the majority of us as even human. We're cattle and disposable serfs meant to live for their needs only.

[@disalazarg]

Women, by and large, don't ask men out. They might "send signals" (some of which include "looking at them for one second longer than a normal man"), but actually take the initiative themselves is too scary and leaves them embarrassed if they get rejected or just change their minds later, so they don't.

[@herohut725]

@@disalazarg and that's our point. If those women are "scared of rejection" they just need to multiply that by 20 and it's how the average man feels. I'm more confident in my ability to ask a woman out these days then I was years ago but where I am in life atm, I'd rather not.

[@disalazarg]

@@herohut725 I know, and I find it particularly stupid given the "in case they change their minds later" bit; at least most men own up to their interests and don't go "I never liked her to begin with" if they get rejected. I just mean, just because you haven't been asked doesn't mean you haven't raised interest. Don't think you're unloved, sometimes you're just loved by stupid people :P

[@rabyla6396]

Women : he needs to pay all the bills, be good looking, cook, clean, spend his free time with me and that is the bare minimum Men: The girl of my dreams is one that is kind and loyal and I will be content forever

[@greatclubsandwich5612]

Woman: "HOW DARE YOU ASK SO MUCH!!! POLICE ARREST THAT MAN AND MAKE HIM MAINTAIN SOCIETY BUT I NEVER WANT TO LOOK AT HIM!"

[@oboromusha80]

I do all the things, yes. For myself. I was told to manage my life because I wasn't good enough. Turns out I'm very good at it, really enjoy cooking. What I had to sacrifice with all the time I put into managing my life, is my appreciation for company. After I'm done managing the house, cooking, doing the tasks for the company and writing another chapter, my happy hour is to play some soulslike or a survival game until I start dozing off. I have zero availability to entertain some entitled grown child in the hopes she lets me climb on top of her. That is nowhere near in my top 10 life priorities because I was not incentivized to include it. If they want, they can keep trying to domesticate the handsome tall losers who can't even tie their shoe laces properly or pull up their pants.

[@tatuira93]

Apparently your "woman" is from the fucking 60's or something, we're waaaay past that my dude.

[@justaguy8104]

@@oboromusha80 Whatcha writin’?

[@tenchraven]

You forgot the "all" in reference to the spare time. Of all my friends, the only one who didn't disappear after marriage married a lady with a lot of the same hobbies. The rest... I see my friends in the graveyard more often than I do the guys who are married.

[@nomymina5429]

always remember the best she can say is yes second best is no the most common is being called a creep and put on the internet to be told about to all there friends

[@lylemcdermott2566]

Yep and when she tells the story she laughs and says " I was just being nice"...

[@9Destra]

I’ve come to understand that requiring basic human decency means that my standards are way too high. I don’t deserve kindness in my relationships because I was born wrong

[@Xahnel]

Getcher passport, get a transfer to another country, get married to a woman from a culture where they still make women.

[@buddermonger2000]

You're born a man. It means to be born strong. If you're not strong now, become stronger. It is all we can do.

[@Tomi-sc7dv]

Typical human moment of disagreeing with something because you don't want it to be so.

[@bannedmann4469]

Woman*

[@soulsmanipulatedinc.1682]

@Tomi-sc7dv That's referring to the "priori fallacy", relating to the "argument from incredulity" type of conversation.

[@kdawg3484]

"Just be nice to them" is terrifyingly true and powerful. Recently, I had occasion to mentally go over every relationship, partial relationship, or attempt at a relationship I'd had in my life. And I've also had a lot of female friends. Yeah, a lot of those friendships did start feeling like they could be good relationships for me after a while. Even my standards for my level of attractiveness would often start to loosen. But, HOLY SHIT, do women not have a clue. They'll consider you a friend, be nice to you, get your hopes up, and then go do some horrible shit and never understand that it broke you in the process. Women being the emotionally mature, in-touch, perceptive, tender, affectionate, etc. sex went out the window for me a long time ago. I've seen tons of men with those traits. What I've seen personally has been mostly cluelessness and some evil manipulativeness. I really can't deny that being single at my age, I'd probably be putty in the hands of almost anyone that just showed me genuine affection. Or faked it really well. It's just so rare to get.

[@MrLuigge]

here's my standards: I want a woman. is it too high? I think I should lower them, might be too high.

[@OwO377]

They way high on drunk standard.

[@MrLuigge]

@OwO377 😂

[@MephiticMiasma]

"Why can't I find a nice guy to be a boyfriend?" "Because all the nice guys already have boyfriends"

[@Joker-dn5xs]

Jesus, dude, you're trying to get a girlfriend not a princess! Those standards are way too high!

[@tatuira93]

How dare you.

[@Mrshadowmind14]

The artist telepurte had a good image for this. It was a cute girl giving a guy a spehere that said 'genuine compliment' guy looks at it and it splits into a red ball saying 'romantic interest' and a blue ball saying 'sarcasm'. That is how hard it is for guys to understand a woman being nice to them.

[@mattwilliams8984]

I remember that one. The split was "romantic interest" and "just being nice." And at the end, the orb is displayed on a rather bare shelf labelled "permanent memories."

[@Mrshadowmind14]

@@mattwilliams8984 okay, I couldn’t find it so my memory was a bit fuzzy. Thanks for the correction.

[@mvpmikey]

There is a big difference between relationships of adults and those of children. Children's relationships are about learning and curiosity, so they are pure-minded. Adults often view each other as potential partners. Relationships (family, friends, romance) all have hidden agendas. It is always "give and take". _It is normal to fall for 100+ people even if you are taken, since that is human nature. This is why loyalty exists._ *The real definition of loyalty is understanding human nature and going against it.*

[@thatotherguy8138]

"I never led people on." This is very likely the absolute truth. In no way shape or form is this likely to be even up for discussion on any level. From the Man's perspective... it's very possible this woman was the first female non-relative who was actually NICE to him outside of obvious "It's My Job" situations in a very long time. And for a significant portion of men, they are going to jump at this chance to find a mate. Because in their eyes, this is a chance that may NEVER come again - that woman may be their ONE shot at finding love. And they might not be wrong about that. I feel for the women in these situations, particularly when they are doing nothing wrong at all. But it's a no-win scenario.

[@tonkahanah5890]

"oh, sorry I loved you. Suppose I won't make that mistake again" I feel for guys who go through this cuz I was that guy once. Suppose I kinda still am but there is no love any more these days, that's all dreid up now.

[@SunLovinSolaire]

I massively share the fear of rejection platonically. In December last year I became briefly acquainted with a new group of people, I tried to fit in and I know I had my issues, but I was basically kicked out without having an opportunity to apologize or explain myself and blocked. It still fucks with me when I’m left to my thoughts.

[@ektran4205]

women love mysterious men and aim to tame wild men

[@jtg753]

Well, lots of "it depends." If it's a guy that never gets attention from a woman, sure...being nice will make his day and more. However, if a guy gets attention from women all the time, it's likely that other qualities will come in the play: is she attractive, and so on. Broadly speaking though, most guys fall into the former.

[@nicholasrandall3507]

Swipe stats show it's a 5-95 split. So of he's not a top 5%er, being nice will be enough.

[@Hekinsieden]

Sounds like simping to me! No woman could "make my day" lmao, I only make my own days. MGTOW

[@akumaangelus2999]

@@Hekinsieden Simping, simpletoning? I don't understand how someone making your day better is being a simpleton.

[@Hekinsieden]

@@akumaangelus2999 That's not what I meant and if you don't get it I am not going to be able to help you there.

[@Hekinsieden]

@@akumaangelus2999 "Simp" and "Simping" does not mean "Simpleton", just because the letters are similar does not make it the same word or meaning. The only way they could make my day better is by leaving me alone.

[@Lordracula168]

Maybe that Twitter user doesn't know the difference between love and lust? It's very easy to lust

[@Kukaahi]

It really is.

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

It's a Twitter user, is that a question?

[@yoloactual6975]

Where young people and young women especially mess up and misinterpret what is happening is that it has NOTHING to do with being nice. If all it took was being nice, we quite literally would fall for every other girl walking around. The true determining factor for a man falling in love is what he perceives to be emotional safety. He feels that you have accepted his truest self, and he is comfortable with confiding in you, crying with you, etc. Hence why women often misinterpret that as " I was just being nice". No, you were allowing this man to completely let his guard down with you in a way that society and most other people at large do not. If you don't want male friends to fall for you, you need to have more restrictive boundaries on what you allow him to do and say with you. Having cutesy sleepovers, going to events together always, yadda yadda yadda, always results in his inevitable over investment into that bond.

[@1Grainer1]

easy guide to men: - be nice - at least try to be interested/understand in their interests - don't be overwhelming / give them some space with this 80% of relationships will work out

[@Zephyr_Talemaster]

Pretty much

[@Schro701]

Not just a guide to men, a guide to people in general tbh 😭

[@boomknight1015]

And yet women make this seem impossible to do

[@1Grainer1]

@@Schro701 i mean in basic relationship level, 2nd point isn't that needed for friendships to exist, it will be better, but you don't need to share interests to that degree as they can be fully irrelevant

[@Asdayasman]

Point 3 is a mileage may vary one for sure. When my girlfriend is all up in my business I'm the happiest guy on Earth.

[@JesterKingZant]

A woman who's not hateful would win my heart I haven't wanted a woman since 2008

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Sounds like you've got issues.

[@aliekexie8467]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 dont we all? let me tell ya watching a jpeg yap isnt really a showcase of a well adjusted person

[@plfaproductions]

​​@@viktoriyaserebryakov275599% of the population got issues then

[@JesterKingZant]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Yes, a history of getting froped

[@digitalyoutuber154]

​@@aliekexie8467I really don't understand this mindset. What's wrong with watching vtubers? For the most part, they're just your average streamer. I don't get why watching them is synonymous with mental issues.

[@filleraccount-r4f]

It’s kinda crazy that we refuse to ask why. Are men really that touch starved that we catch feelings for kindness? Nah it must be that we are simple and emotional creatures.

[@RedneckSith]

That's why I don't maintain close friendships with women anymore. They date some dude who treats them badly and breaks their heart, they come running to me for emotional support and validation to boost their self-esteem back up, then repeat. I'm done being treated like that. If I catch feels and she doesn't reciprocate, fine. I get it. But I'm not sticking around to be used. I know my worth. And let's face it men, the difference between 'boyfriend' and 'friend' in a woman's eyes usually boils down to income or attractiveness these days. It has nothing to do with personality, morality, common interests, etc. Most modern women are very, very shallow, and it's getting worse. Women these days love to ask where the good men are. They need to check their friend zone, because chances are there are several perfectly wonderful men who will (or do) love them unconditionally, support them, and treat them right. But they can't look past the superficial.

[@KevvoLightswift]

I’ve never understood the statement “They ruined the friendship!” When men confess their feelings, they are completing the friendship. The friendship has run its course, progressing naturally to the next level. I believe what women really mean when they say that is “I can’t get any more free investment from him! That makes me mad!”

[@edarddragon]

ive met a few woman who i felt like oh i might like this and explored a bit hey would you be interested? Ive been told no and i just kept talking to them as friends, and now 1 of them is like my older sister and i really like this family relationship now. Men are lonely and want that it can happen but if you dont ruin it and ghost us it goes back to normal

[@KevvoLightswift]

@@edarddragon It does depend on what you're okay with. If you're fine with a sibling relationship, more power to you.

[@HudaefCares]

As a female lemme throw my 2 cents in here. They say that coz they see you as a friend, and you catching feelings is destroying that friendship, coz after you shoot your shot and they shoot your feelings down, there's this awkwardness that's hard to get rid of. Suddenly all your actions are suspicious now. Is it due to friendship or cue to feelings? _"Is he still hanging out with me coz he's expecting something?"_ It's that or they don't care that much about your feelings, you're really just a friend from start to finish. "Now you made it weird bruh". Tbh I'm a female but I'm also gay so idk how much insight I can offer lmao. All I know is that I had an ex who was _extremely_ keen on keeping her exes around as friends, she just legit didn't understand why exes have to drift apart. I asked her "are all your exes still friends with you?" She said yes without hesitation. I was gobsmacked.😅 And yeah, we _are_ still friends... Tho I did stop talking to her for a while to process my feelings.

[@hihosh1]

@@HudaefCares Not interested, this is the story of the woodcutter and the fairy and the woman that we grew up with as children, the woodcutter kept chasing the fairy while ignoring the comely woman that loved him and saw her only as a friend. In the end the woman threw herself/ or cried until she turned into a river. The woodcutter regretted his choices and realised he should have accepted her advances from the start but could never bring her back so he became a tree that gained sustenance from the river. Except this time the woodcutter is women, and the comely woman is men. the fairy is this lifestyle of not accepting relationships and always wanting to have fun instead of accepting that while there is fun to had in this world, we're not here for fun

[@marcosgaleazzi3830]

​​@@HudaefCares the "Does he do things for/with me because of friendship or because of feelings?" question is out of touch. We always do things because of feelings, friendship (even exclusively platonic) is driven by feelings, it's love. Women assume that we can't control our feelings so they escape from the "damaged" relationship because subconsciously think we would do the same. We know how to control our feelings, we know how to turn them down. We always do. The real question should be "does he do things for/with me because of feelings or because he wants something from me?", but if you make yourself that question you might have some trust issues.

[@NicholasLind-o8x]

"Attractive and nice" are LOW standards? A large percentage of people fail to meet this supposedly "low" bar. 11:40

[@jonathancrespo3274]

The only requirement/standard i have in a hypothetical relationship is: work with me so I can be better to help both of us, and dont intentionally backstab me.

[@richardscathouse]

Too much to ask of Americans 😢

[@DkKombo]

Good goals! Make sure you get some good friends to help you with that too and make it so that you always help each other naturally! As they say, "if you wanna be my lover, ya gotta get with my friends!"

[@DkKombo]

I mean just do your freaking best and get and encourage some good relationships ny dude! You got this! Remember you need to forgive yourself, face your issues, abd move forward! You can only do better for people, and its scientifically proven that you function better, and your smarter if your in a positive mood! So take care to manage your emotions as a naturally emotional being to manage yourself and bring out those good vibes to attract the rright person in your life! I believe in you!

[@MelRetro]

*Say it with me, Everyone: Western Women Never Cease To Baffle Me*

[@vergillives9890]

If its positive in any capacity western women are highly aggressive in everyway over nothing-

[@oboromusha80]

Nah. Have you talked to women or listened to them? Therein lies the rub. At some point in my younger years, I just stopped talking and listened most of the time, like keeping it to single expressions like "Sure.", "I guess.", "Hmhm." When you let women talk themselves out, here's what you discover: "Mememe, meme memememememe, all me all the time, it's about me." - That's one. The other one is - "I want people to think specific things about me, I'm very particular as to how I'm regarded, but it's never about the things I do, it's what I say that I want to define me because I'm so impossibly full of it, that the only way I can do that is if I poison the well in every single conversation, to make absolutely sure that I can safely contradict myself after that." Knowing modern women isn't difficult, thanks to the endless prattling they do. Or maybe it's just the fact that I have God-like powers of perception or something, but I sincerely doubt that is the case. I just listen. And what I listen is that their souls...? Ugly as fugging sin.

[@supertails8881]

Yeah, best to leave and find someone else

[@ReptillianStrike]

It really is no wonder some men choose to find a wife in the east, and green pass them to the west. Eastern women typically believe in more traditional values of love and romance, so they tend to be a better match with men. That isn't to say western women can't believe in those same values, but many of them have lost the plot and it muddies the waters.

[@capperbuns]

More like USA women bro

[@muerte2617]

A woman being nice to me won’t work unfortunately, I have never known anyone to be kind to me without wanting something from me in return. So as soon as a woman starts being nice to me, I know they want something from me.

[@Emulleator]

getting fired for being in a relationship with a coworker is a "land of the free"™ thing. unless you are fucking at work it should not matter

[@deadturret4049]

And even then, theres at least one industry where fucking at work is a requirement

[@TonyRedgrave]

@@deadturret4049 Insert a certain jingle from a funny black and orange site here.

[@H41030v3rki110ny0u]

i agree unless you/they are a superior, like a manager, over the other person.. that can get kinda chaotic lol, potentially awful for the workplace

[@dakota9821]

You agreed to those terms when you signed your employment contract, maybe read it next time? Womp womp; Self inflicted. You will get no sympathy from your clown antics from me.

[@davileite780]

@@H41030v3rki110ny0u If you don't mind me asking... Why would that get chaotic for the workplace? I can see a power imbalance facilitating abuse, but, other tgan that, i don't see how it would impact the workplace as a whole.

[@Pers0n97]

I love how that one try to pretend "being reasonably attractive and reasonably nice" isn't a standard when it LITERALLY is. Mindbogglingly stupid.

[@DurzoBlint178]

It's just a standard that they can't achieve themselves, so they hate on men for having these standards

[@sorahikigaya6751]

For male its much safer to not try. Why?? Because its evading potential false accusation

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

At this point I don’t fear rejection. As long as she doesn’t make a dramatic scene out of it. I’ve been rejected more times than I can count for saying hello. I’m over the fear of rejection if I can’t even consistently get a reply for saying the most basic greeting.

[@Kukaahi]

I see why you would feel that way.

[@jamesgotchall7205]

Developing feelings for a girl, and she turns around and cyber bullies you to get out of half a year worth of coursework in high school....yeah, that left a scar on me

[@BitterSweetChili]

ouch. never happened to me but i still feel a lot of pain trough these words.

[@kitchenpotsnpans]

Literally impossible too many criminals, to many villain's evil people everywhere!

[@mint5438]

A few months ago, woman around my age told me good morning with a genuine smile as I was leaving work and whenever I'm sad, I think of that moment and it cheers me up a bit. Sounds pathetic and it kinda is I know, but that's just the way it is.

[@dyslexicLLM]

They say love when they mean lust. Not the same thing.

[@Spoopball]

Yes and no. Psychology books explain there are two types of attraction, opportunistic and long-lasting Opportunistic sounds suss and bad, but it just refers to the concept of "love at first sight" basically, if someone is in front of you, your brain will roll the dice on whether you find them attractive or not (personal biases, tastes, etc matter). Logistically, if you see a person often, then you will clearly roll those dice more often, odds are you will have a roll that you will eventually see things about them, you like Thus male friends, will eventually be attracted to female friends. Long-lasting attraction is the type that continues long after the object of affection is gone from sight. Aka you think about them even when they're gone. It usually means the feeling are more than just a crush.

[@probro53]

​@@Spoopball and lust is just our libido telling us to reproduce 🤔

[@tatuira93]

@@Spoopball I know nobody will believe me, but I never had "love at first sight", I have never in my life fallen for someone just by looking at them. It doesn't mean I'm not attracted to pretty women, it just means it doesn't go farther than "Damn, she's fine". On the other hand, I almost never fall in love (I think maybe twice in my life, thrice if I'm stretching, I'm 31), but when I do it's the second type and it really fucks me up good. I'm seriously torn on whether it's a good or bad thing because it seriously limited the possibility of finding a mate, which was never high regardless.

[@fenchellforelle]

@@tatuira93 there are more people that find your description relatable than you seem to think. the only time i was genuinely interested in someone, i shot my shot after a little while, got rejected and they ended up developing in a direction that would never have been compatible with mine, so it wasnt a loss in hindsight. in fairness, im only in my early 20s, this would obviously be less of a concern now as adults are more stable in their behavioural patterns. On the other hand i have friends who will swoon over another girl every year only for it to inevitably fall apart and them being depressed for a while, to which i must say i prefer my position to theirs.

[@Harkz0r]

@@tatuira93 I feel you. I still think sometimes about the first person I truly fell in love with, which flied in the face of common sense and even my own standards at the time. I was 22 then, I'm 36 now. To this day it was the most unguarded I've ever been around another human being, save for perhaps my father when I was a young child. I have extremely mixed feelings and sometimes I feel like it would have been better if we had never met, but I will probably always carry that feeling with me. Even though I somewhat think she took advantage of me and fucked me up, though not deliberately, at the same time if she was in a desperate position I would help without thinking about it, even though I haven't seen or spoken to her in many years. I feel like maybe not a lot of people love like we do. And the ones I've heard of are usually other men. It is a difficult way to be, but it is how it is.