Josh Strife Hayes situation is crazy

[@UndarkAido]

“We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they're elected. Don't you?” “Why?” “It saves time.” ― Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent

[@LordMegatherium]

Nice one. GNU PTerry

[@maf7742]

pratchett my beloved

[@RD-py9sv]

That might have helped the US.

[@HavelockVetinarii]

Josh Strife reminds me of ridcully

[@DeReAntiqua]

Buys tons of sweets. Deludes himself into believing that they're meant for Halloween. Pretends to not be home. Consumes "leftovers".

[@bplup6419]

Delightfully devilish

[@johnlucas2838]

I did the same shit.

[@FF-tp7qs]

Xv​@@LookHearMeOut

[@philipprinkens4659]

well ... would be a waste to let them go bad

[@DeReAntiqua]

@@philipprinkens4659 This man swindled the world, _his neighborhood,_ AND HIMSELF, AND THE PUBLIC DEMAND ANSWERS! Also, a cut of the sweets, but mostly ANSWERS!

[@TheLFDream]

"You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." fuck me that is a very clever point

[@okayhellohihowyadoin]

It’s a very old very wise saying

[@intermaria]

Crazy how Josh sits slightly to the center-left in the video

[@Elunae]

AUUUR NAAAAUH I CANT BELIEVE IT

[@bowlock9901]

Thats how the lie continues. He's actually centre right.

[@BrawndoQC]

Technically, he's sitting center-right.

[@dmcross91]

​@@bowlock9901seems like it's a matter of perspective 😎YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@justinland1208]

@@bowlock9901 As everyone knows, being center left just means you're 10 years away from being center right.

[@joshemeloshe9453]

Josh’s grid based inventory has really reached the next level

[@insensitive919]

He unlocked all the extra slots

[@botulin1443]

We need four-dimensional kallax

[@Alistair_7609]

"i am 100% all for democracy, until i am in charge" is peak politics

[@Archmage9885]

Yep.

[@Korodarn]

Democracy is bad, I was against it before the election. Divine right of kings was wrong, but a better and more accurate narrative than the concept people can aggregate their views into coherent "public policy."

[@Malygon]

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles." - Frank Herbert, Children of Dune

[@fededevi1985]

"..but people are retarted" cit.

[@Archmage9885]

@@Malygon That quote is an accurate summary of every communist and far-leftist, including Josh.

[@merdufer]

The situation situation is crazy.

[@dallinjc3]

Insane

[@marshallc6215]

The situation situation is situation.

[@admirallove6180]

The discourse discourse about the situation situation is also crazy

[@vili-pekkavaltonen5943]

Its crazy allright..

[@pvshka]

The situation is crazy. Is crazy. Crazy.

[@catalyst772]

british man being center left is probably the most generic british youtuber stereotype

[@rokva5771]

That so? I could've bet that it was the opposite.

[@cyberturkey77]

How he can be center left after seeing what Labour has done to the UK idk man guys deluded.

[@Bustermachine]

@@rokva5771 In terms of the UK overall you'd be right. In terms of the UK that is young enough to be hosting a channel on youtube . . . eh . . .

[@acdcljb]

@@Bustermachine so true

[@Kamylospl]

what's your point tho

[@en4135]

One of my most ingrained memories coming up in the public school system was the frightening amount of times I was told "Act your age" the first time was in 6th grade. I was 12, I got too ingrained into a conversation with my friend in class. Various teachers did this and it ended up creating this bizarre pecking order where nobody actually knew what we were supposed to act like and we practically ranked each other over how mature we were. Being growing hormonal children this naturally combined with our growing interest in sex so we all rushed forward into acting like late teenagers, as a result my later school life was filled with an incredibly unstable student body that was incredibly cruel, sexual, and emotionally immature where breakdowns were a common occurrence. It never really clicked to me until much later that so many of my teachers thought the Children being Children were inconvenient, it's one of many reasons I have a bizarre intrinsic hate of school in general now.

[@iBackPackGG]

the clickbait asmongold type meta title

[@cyberturkey77]

more like pyrocynical

[@JoshStrifeSays]

I fucking gave up

[@ssjbargainsale]

@@JoshStrifeSays To be fair, it worked. But I probably would've watched it regardless

[@dallinjc3]

If it works, it works

[@vodkaffee4856]

Guys, Charlie is the grandfather of that format

[@Tyanus2]

I can never understand people writing paragraphs of text on twitch for it to go out of sight in 2s

[@Xxgxxaxx]

Yeah same

[@Noqtis]

Probably because you never use twitch. I'm not a fan of streams so I couldn't engage much with chat but I tried it out for the lulz a few times and often people would whisper me back reacting to what I wrote. I ended up chatting with some of them. This isn't anything mysterious but the very same what happened in the beginning of chatrooms where people would spam: 'write 12345 to chat with me' to find themselves private chatting partners. It's just now while a stream is happening and you are expected to write something original enough so at least one person reacts directly to you.

[@ZeptoZeno]

Never understood this either. Who would even care enough to read the essay of a random name in a Twitch chat?

[@Tyanus2]

@@Noqtis That explains it a bit, thank you.

[@Tyanus2]

@@ZeptoZeno Yeah that's my perspective lol

[@danilooliveira6580]

the problem with the "your problems don't matter in the grand scheme of things" is that you can keep moving it forward indefinitely until you get to the most unfortunate person alive. so if you follow that logic no one's problems matter, not men's, not women's, not trans people's. so that is not a very healthy stance to take, life is not a competition about who suffers more, that is the problem with pragmatic altruism. we should acknowledge and help everyone, independent on what is their struggle.

[@Iamapinkelephant]

I do believe that you've reiterated exactly what his point actually was.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@Iamapinkelephant kinda, yes, I'm just clarifying his stance.

[@notaprinny]

You can actually keep going. Why does it matter if we destroy the planet and crack it into space dust? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Just look at the size of the universe.

[@YouhaBaha]

I will improve the point, first worlders problem are trivial, third world problems are serious, there is a difference between whining about not being able to pin estrogen and cutting your genitals vs wishing your brother wasnt bombed by a missile and wishing you had enough food to last another day.

[@xenxander]

well it's pretty much true. no one person's problems really do matter, as long as corporate keeps going. Those are the problems that 'matter'.. ensure the cogs keep turning and the machine keeps running.

[@whatever3554]

- "Loves cats, writes on walls" - Hmm, I have a 2 year old nephew who's egyptian

[@skyknight0408]

At least he doesn't do his wall writing with poop. My nephews are both grown up up now, but the elder one totally did that when he was little.

[@peterbabicki8252]

Ah yes, the good old _"consider yourself lucky, there are starving children in Africa."_

[@happymate8943]

I am highly sure that quote is used to show how "better" the western world is compared to the rest.

[@bobbycrosby9765]

@@happymate8943 people use it to justify ignoring someone else's problems. I heard it a lot from my parents growing up in the '80s.

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

The classic whataboutism.

[@happymate8943]

@@bobbycrosby9765 I'm aware of that. Just saying that can be used to compare who has it better.

[@eduardomartin8510]

@peterbabicki8252 Yep, rolled my eyes; men feeling disenfranchised, and stats do show this, is actually a BIG issue. Having said that, given that his politics is about conceding terrain in some areas to gain more terrain in other areas, he could be doing the same technique here with his own audience. "yeah I am with you guys, their problems aren't that big, but consider their perspective," boom he wins over his audience.

[@Vok250]

Me and my wife are teachers. You are absolutely spot on! Especially the bit about COVID kids having no social skills.

[@sydneys207]

"There are people with far worse problems" does not mean you don't have problems. I'm pretty feminist-leaning, and even I can recognize that many things men say are problems... *are problems*. Men's mental health is fucked for so many reasons. The loneliness epidemic *does* hit every demographic, but men broadly have it worse. Hell, I can even recognize that there is some over-correction on a lot of things that are reasonable.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Sure. But it's one thing to say it and another to actually live it. Feminism is a movement historically meant to help women gain rights, not trod down on or speak badly of men. But that's mainly what it's used for contemporarily. One single woman speaking against that means nothing.

[@YevhenRawrs]

Feminism is absolutely incomplete without a compassionate approach to men's issues incl. how they suffer from toxic masculinity (the actual toxic masculinity, not the insincere assumptions about the term) and any Feminist who has read a book and isn't just an online sh!tposter will confirm this.

[@Shadow.Darkraven]

men dont have problems they dont matter in the grand scheme of things and we should pull all support for programs that could possibly help men

[@Mrgiggles9007]

@@spankyjeffro5320 I'm not so sure that is actually entirely true that feminism has been primarily for women because I have seen many feminists speaking about literature from the years of Women's Suffrage that go very much into men's issues and how men are affected by the very things that are causing women's suffering. It's just the movement, like many movements, has been 'hijacked' by the elite class and spun in a way that makes it so much more alienating, hostile and divisive than it's original purpose and because they have the strongest media presence or even outright control the media that is the message that gets put out to the masses about what the 'movement' is despite that the vast majority of the people in the movement are adamantly opposed to that message, it doesn't matter. They spend top dollar to make sure people hear feminism and think 'feminazism' and that's the end of it.

[@15thobserver]

@@spankyjeffro5320 "One single woman speaking against that means nothing" A quote by Rosa Parks.

[@JohnDoe-jc5kt]

US schools are quite similar. They only teach memorization, not genuine learning. I thankfully had good teachers who tried to support actual learning and research. Other schools I've been to only really focus on memory. Especially systems like the SAT and AP system. The way you pass those is through memorization. I passed my Ap exams, and I couldn't tell you a thing I learned on them. Even my AP teachers said on day one "You are not here to learn, you are here to memorize the test and get some classes knocked off of your expensive schooling at university".

[@MyVanir]

That's most of the world. Education was dumbed down to rote memorization of a list and those who cannot, do not want or are bad at it are basically a nail to be hammered in.

[@screwgoogle4993]

Not even memorization. The point is to shove you in buildings full of blacks to condition you to live in fear of them when you are a child. You get two choices in school: Kiss their ass and be accepted by them, or have some self-respect and be targeted for psychological abuse. Thankfully the government hasn't clued in on the value of martial arts training in breaking this brainwashing. No one can force their thoughts on you if you can defend yourself. Good thing blacks can't fight for shit, but a lot of times, kids don't understand why anything is happening to them. They get told not to be racist, and also to just let black people hit you and do nothing. They get told to ignore the evidence of their eyes, or else. Is it any wonder so many people are slaves to a "believe this or else" mentality? This is why I will never believe in hitting your children. It's how blacks "raise" children, and look how they turn into opportunistic rats targeting little old ladies and children. Screw that. Don't want people to hate you and your entire people? Don't abuse people. Don't put your hands on people. And certainly don't pull knives, try to stab people in the throat, fail, get cut open in the process, lie through your goddamn teeth to the courts just to spite people, and then cry racism. Because that is how you get people who hate you more than your most self-indulgent fantasy ever could. That is how you create genocidal hate, and I'm okay with that. Fuck around and find out. I'm ready for the Summer of Love 2.0. They will find the fuck out.

[@timothydoyle9635]

welcome to "no child left behind". where no child can fail, but you can only go as fast as the slowest person. also for a short answer. Teachers Unions are to blame.

[@CeesaX]

Hey man, not sure how old you are, but AP tests have been shifting over the last decade to have more of an emphasis on logical reasoning skills, and less on memorization. Source: I'm a high school teacher.

[@timothydoyle9635]

@@CeesaX not 100% sure on the other guy, but I caught the tail end of a very, very good semi-private k-12 school and nearly all my classes were ap, and the only memorization was needed for chemistry. CalcA, calc b, stat, music theory, physics, computer programming a/b were nearly zero memorization. Although as someone who read the textbooks before class and taught myself the subjects.... not sure how relevant my input is from about 20 years ago from the terrible education of Florida.

[@nooooooooope3809]

Holy shit. You're so right. I just got out of a residental trauma treatment center, and most of peoples' issues went back to parents, teachers, etc. telling them that their problems don't matter. That shit FUCKS you up.

[@hollinkarelja7564]

one of the wisest things ive ever heard was "two things can be true at the same time" a persons problem can be both unimportant and very important and this is a good thing to think about

[@wholetyouinhere]

This is true, but it doesn't really even apply in this case. Men are dying by the millions in wars right now. Men are committing suicide and overdosing at far higher rates than women. Men comprise 95% of our prison populations. Men are the primary victims of violent crime by a long shot. Men are receiving less education. Men are now earning less money for the same jobs. If you told the aliens that men have it good on planet earth, they'd look down at all of this male misery and wonder wtf you're talking about.

[@marcforrester7738]

You may enjoy the philisophical rabbit hole lurking behind the phrase 'reality tunnel'.

[@TheTdroid]

Like JSH, I am definitely left of center. We haven't had "a couple of years" of that. It's been a pretty consistent staple of a lot of how leftists and progressives have worked since at least 2016, when Bernie Sanders supporters (especially male Sanders supporters) were disregarded as sexists for liking Sanders (an actual progressive) over Hillary Clinton (a corporate democrat). The unwillingness to welcome young men, combined with the common hostility towards them, has backfired spectacularly politically for left leaning and progressive parties the last decade, because the right are happy to welcome them.

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

I feel bad for all those fools going over there to hang out with Bendejo Pepino and the Quartering and Matt Walsh and that broad who eats butter

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

Yep, people like vaush and hasan have been saying this for ages. We need to give young men a positive role model and a compelling narrative. And, "dont be toxic" is NOT a compelling narrative especially for young men just learning about politics.

[@TheHalogen131]

​@@butHomeisNowhere___They might be saying this, but absolutely evil and disgusting themselves. Nothing these two say is ever worth anything. They only want power, so they ban everyone, who even slightly disagrees, while spewing shit, like "America deserved 9/11" or "My principles are winning. Losing with your principles is worth jack shit". Actual quotes

[@Kuzushi42]

It's worth pointing out that being center left in the UK is equivalent to being progressive left in the US, as our Overton Window has shifted so far to the right over the last thirty years. If Bernie Sanders were a politician in the EU, he'd be seen as a centrist on most issues.

[@RisqueBisquetz]

@@butHomeisNowhere___ blergh v*ush and h*s*n ew ew ew ew

[@adamswarbrick8791]

Thank you for taking the time to say this and putting yourself out there. I don't like politics in my content but young men are being failed right now. If we support and build boys into good men they will do so for others.

[@aj0413_]

I’d disagree on the “doesn’t factually matter in the grand scheme” thing. Maybe it matters *less* than other issues, but it does still matter. If you start arguing “in the grand scheme” then I can just as easily say no problems matter; humanity will die out anyway. Like, what you said is good, but it also has the implicit feeling of patronization

[@furryfox12]

I think it might be one of the bigger issues in the grand scheme of things. It has huge impact on the political world. It may push many men into depression, isolation, self harm, agressive behaviour, and even suicide. I think we're witnessing a snowball effect, which may reach a critical mass in 5-15 years and result in some scary scenarios. And I am not saying this just to focus on the outcomes. I trully believe men's lives are as valuable and important as any other person's.

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

Ripple effect.

[@aj0413_]

@@furryfox12 Definitely agree. But I’m willing to concede to others that there’s other issues such abortion deserving more immediate focus. As a white guy who’s straight and fit at 31, I have to acknowledge a natural bias and knowledge/experience gap when arguing social issues. I try to avoid creating a pyramid of these things cause it feels like victimhood olympics….which is it’s own toxic issues on social media 😅

[@asdergold1]

He did say he leans left.

[@dojelnotmyrealname4018]

Yeah it feels like he doesn't realise he's still doing it. Atleast I don't think he's doing it on purpose, but he definitely needs to reflect on it.

[@Tysonyar]

You're 100% correct about the reason for the behavior. You can't publicly say you don't care about someone as a person and then be surprised when they don't give you their vote. There are lots of other reasons as well but this is a big one.

[@Gabu_]

Which is much less important than, globally, rightwingers destroying education, because educated people don't vote for the right.

[@doomguy4945]

They genuinely forgot how to play the game. You get votes by catering to people, not by guilt-tripping them

[@Gabu_]

@doomguy4945 If people wont vote for them when the alternative is literally Hitler 2, then they're not the ones at fault

[@darwinxavier3516]

@@doomguy4945 Or at least put on a reasonable façade of caring about the concerns of people who can vote. Too many people are too far up their own ass, believing themselves to be the unquestioned default norm, and think everyone else just needs to shut up and fall in line.

[@lukep.]

“As a center-leftist, I kind of dislike the way the hardcore-left is” Immediately get an ad for Star Wars mobile game showing Darth Vader 😂

[@Fluxikator]

Saying "your problems dont matter becasue problem xyz is more important" is in most of the cases basically just whataboutism. And a bad way to actually argue. Becasue if you rigorously applay that logic. Nothting really matters becasue any problems seems insignificant in comparison to the whole. As to the Problems of young Men: Another political youtuber i listen to made some great points about that. The Real problen in villifying young men. Or men in general is the lack of a solution. Saying: Youre the problem. Change. Doesnt solve anything. Especially if the connection is too vague. in example: Patriachy has made some bad things-> Patriachy is made up of men-> You are a man. So its your fault and you need to change. When Tearing down what man are or supposed to be because you belive thats bad. You need to offer a different outlook or solution. As in answering the question: How i am supposed to be? And when thats not done. It will in the end harm everyone. Including your own goal.

[@guywithnohouse.6808]

Kind of missing your point here on purpose but I guess it's sort of hilarious that so many far leftists have this engrained hate for whataboutism but that's more often than not simply because it's not used in a way that they'd use it for, it's actually quite hypocritical. And yeah, the real problem is that young men are being villanized, all men are villans because the patriarchy was once very shit and because it was so shit we must now focus on not being shit, what I don't understand is where the extremists of the left side want to go with this, I truly love the left side of thinking but sometimes it just gets to be a bit much, I see a lot of comments here saying "being centre left is the same as being alt right in 10 years" but I have no real idea about if that's true or not, at best I just think people really want to manifest that reality for themselves because we just all want to have the most right of ideas. I still think the problem lies at the core of humanity being very broken, we don't give a fuck about each other, at least... not as much as we truly believe that we do, we step on each other as competition and that's inherently just a societal thing, the problem I think never lied between whether or not the patriarchy was the problem, it's more so that the way society is structured around us probably serves to make that patriarchy 10x worse. We're taught to not be the lesser one, to not step down, to have our own individual ideas and opinions, to have our own sense of purpose, we're raised on this inherent tangent of individualism just to ultimately have it bite us in the ass. If patriarchy really was the underlying problem, the actual BAD thing right? the big bad, which... I agree with, yeah it's probably pretty bad considering MEN were the ones that first to actually enable feminism, contrary to what the actual name of it would imply, if it was that bad, why is the world looking like it's going more and more in the same direction but just a different nuance the more the far left tries to pursue social activism? It feels like we went from feminism trying to get rid of the patriarchy at all and just create a wholly equal society to a society that wants to move into patriarchy but for women instead of men, a matriarchy, do we think that matriarchy would be better? is that it? or do we just want to get rid of hierarchy as a whole? in any way shape or form? how do we want to govern our world for real? do we want both men and women to be at lead? or do we want woman to be at lead? and would that make it more different than men being at lead? I honestly don't think so, I just think I'd be the one pursued and possibly graped in the dark alleyway instead of the women now, it stands to gain nothing in the grand scheme of things, we're running circles and for what? exactly? what's the point? I just don't know what the right answer to this is?

[@Suilujz]

I remember seeing a news article which accused a celebrity of supporting something (war/russia/israel - I don't remember) cause they had not publicly condemned them yet. It's like there's an ever evolving list of criteria to meet, and there's little hesitation in throwing very tolerate centrists and apolitical people under the bus once their list appears short. Edit: It was my country's Eurovision contestant in 2023, the news article had a quote from a novelist: "He has not condemned Russia's illegal war. It is a statement."

[@KasumiRINA]

Nah just checking if they support ru is enough. Quick search shows that Steven Seagal, Oliver Stone, Roger Waters and Glenn Jacobs (Kane) are waste of oxygen. Even if someone doesn't directly endorse рu tіn (like these guys did), you can look up their takes defending аssаd gassing Syrians, or cheerleading for other psychos like Maduro... Trust me, if they supported one it's usually the rest too. The list haven't evolved since barrels with chemicals dropped on Ghouta more than a decade ago, it's real easy to actually notice wars happening instead of living in your bubble and pretend nothing ever happens and your biggest issue is who goes into which toilet & culture war BS. I don't care if someone is a "very tolerate centrist" if he literally supports my house getting bombed... It's just that simple.

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

Its virtually social black mail to try and guilt or indirectly threaten someone into supporting you or your beliefs. Because the implication is very clear, if you say anything but what we want you are the bad guy and people will spread that on the internet. It eliminates nuance and kills any constructive discussion that could be had on a politically complicated topic. Its such a shame.

[@XShrike0]

There was a period where internet people were harassing celebrities for not openly denouncing Israeli because of their response to Hamas. These people stated that not openly denouncing meant you were supporting. Even the celebrities saying that they didn't really know anything on the matter was not a defense. They would just get yelled at. "What would you need to know to not denounce them!"

[@blumiu2426]

You might be talking about this Russian actress picked for a Marvel film, but honestly it goes for all celebrities. You pick a side and damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[@thesupreme8062]

​@blumiu2426 i mean it's ok to not be public about your opinion, but you should be aware of what going on. And with situation such as ukraine which is probably on of the most black and white wars on history you should in your little be aware of it and keep it in mind so if you have a chance of helping in any small way you do, that could be donating or simply telling your politicians to send more aid. In in no way supporting the harassment of the russian actress btw just cause she's russian it dorsnt mean she has to publicly speak on it.

[@imaboredguy]

Home-schooling can be supplemented socially, but no one was prepared for the situation. Nor could people get together during the Covid heyday TO socialize. The general atmosphere and having people in masks so frequently probably had some stunting effect as well.

[@Psilocybin77]

EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING suffers. Trauma one up-man ship, or devaluing people's emotional health is evil.

[@upon-fe2720]

It's definitely abuse

[@1IGG]

Eh, I am not. But sure.

[@sowatome849]

Are you not evil or not suffering?

[@vhaelen326]

"just because you have it worse doesnt mean im doing fine"

[@diano357]

As a kindergarten teacher it is heartbreaking to see children be so excited for school and how fast their intrinsic learn instinct gets distorted by the current system. For those who don’t know we all are born with a learning instinct or more scientifically exploration behaviour. In gaming terms you have probably heard from Josh it’s like intrinsic motivation. You know how babies can’t stop themselves from putting random stuff in their mouth or toddlers constantly asking “why?”. It’s their instinct telling them to engage and experience the world. And it is the ultimate building block for healthy and excited learning. But as soon as children are in school they are put in an environment that is stressful, forces them to sit still for long periods of time and essentially punishes them for wanting to engage with the world and its wonders on their terms. The worst offender in this regard is the grading system. It essentially sublimates intrinsic motivation with extrinsic reward. And it is terrible because it makes children cram for an exam so they don’t get a bad grade (if they have the energy to learn at all) to then forget it anyway because the next test is coming up. Through this they are ironically unlearning to learn stuff for the sake of learning. Like Josh said: the education system is not built to help people learn… it is built to create cheap workers. The children of this world deserve better. We all do… (P.S. I have dyslexia so don’t be surprised about the lack of punctuation)

[@diano357]

@@Kuchhh You are correct. English is not my native language and I was wondering myself for a second how to write it

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Children are prevented from engaging the world on their terms because their terms are dangerous and non-constructive. They need guidance otherwise they will eat dangerous things, touch deadly things and fall prey to even deadlier things. School helps focus their attentions with things adults know will help them. Your inability to realize why tests are needed does not mean they are not effective, especially so with learning "for the sake of learning.". You have the gall to say all of that BS and then say learning in and of itself is a bad thing? That's monumentally stupid. Go back to school, stop eating crayons and pay attention.

[@diano357]

@@DeReAntiqua I’m also German so I’m familiar with the system and I agree with you essentially completely. But I also think you might have misunderstood my intent a little. I don’t say by any stretch of the imagination that all children are born equal (from an potential intelligence standpoint of course) or even worse than we should stop schooling children. I’m was saying that we should work towards a world where the needs of children and the education system are brought into harmony. For example a first grade should start l little later in the day then it currently does because children at that age are simply not ready awake enough to really engage with schoolwork. Education is a complex and multilayered topic that includes so many different things for economics, state funding, family dynamics, social issues and so much more. I’m just sad seeing children being forced into a world that is not going to be kind to them because we adults don’t get our shit together. If that is unreasonable then I guess I’m just unreasonable to some. Anyway I really enjoyed your input on the whole thing ☺️

[@sevenember3332]

@@DeReAntiqua In America, (at least where I live) prior to Common Core where everyone is taught in a way to try to give the worst students some sort of step up, classes from primary on were separated into 3 sections. Slow, medium and quick learners. They weren’t called that, but it wasn’t hard to figure it out, especially when I had to repeat the previous year’s math lessons and got put in a different group for that year on. Years 9-12 had the option that for half of the day students could attend a vocational school (VoTech) that would teach things like masonry, culinary arts or childcare. Mostly studies that wouldn’t be something you’d go to a traditional university for. The other half of the day would be the required fundamentals of math, English (general literature and grammar), social studies (history, psychology, American government) and science. The alternative to VoTech was the standard 3-section classes where the top class track was called college prep. Supposedly, it was meant to prepare students for the methods of learning used in university by introducing research papers and giving the option of taking Advanced Preparation classes which you could take a test at the end of it and get college credit for the class. Unfortunately, much of what we were told was wrong. We didn’t have nearly as much homework as we were told we’d have and research papers had already transitioned from libraries and index card sources cited to entirely separate online research and sources. In short, I admire the description of the German system and its commitment to allowing students to study and learn to the best of each individual’s ability (and to preparing them for life as an adult), not to the worst student’s ability as what seems to be the case in America today

[@diano357]

@@spankyjeffro5320 Okay 😌 You are literally interpreting what I have written in the most uncharitable way one could and this is really sad. What do you think does a KINDERGARTEN TEACHER do. Do you think I just sit there with my coffee watching as the children I am responsible for bash their heads on the kitchen counter. Of course they need guidance. What I am saying is that school as a “system” is in some ways not in line with what children actually need to learn. Be it from a biological, socioeconomic or the constant underfunding of schools and staff prospective. Us Teachers and related workers are doing everything we can to make the lives better for the children in our care. Why do you think we are so fed up with all of this. The problem is again the system. To go from my comment and conclude that i am anti education is wild to me. Like really how hurt you become it was not me.

[@KiithnarasAshaa]

"When you are in charge, I beg you for freedom and choice because that is according to your principles. When I am in charge, I take away your freedoms and choice because that is according to my principles" - Josh Strife Hayes, probably.

[@neocores]

i think people need to treat everyone with empathy by default even if you dont 'get' what theyre going through. people are not inherently bad and everyone has their struggles that you dont even know about, its silly to assume otherwise. treating people as if they are inherently bad is a surefire way to ensure that those people get preyed upon by actually evil people who know how to manipulate their hurt and turn them against others.

[@TheAxeaman]

Who treats people like they're inherently bad?

[@wholetyouinhere]

I like how the default position for so many people is always "you need to temper your cruelty towards men/whites because the worst thing that could ever possibly happen is men/whites developing a defensive identity politics to counteract your cruelty". Isn't the cruelty itself a bad thing? Shouldn't the cruelty be avoided because it's cruel and not just because it might result in long-term political or cultural losses? You're so immersed in the leftist empathy void that you can't even see it.

[@neocores]

@@TheAxeaman a lot of people treat various groups as if being a part of that group = youre bad. eg some people treat women as evil bitches and then are shocked when those women are angry about that.

[@TheAxeaman]

@@neocores I agree.

[@iamme625]

@@TheAxeaman Conservatives treat trans people and other minorities like they're bad. That's why they spend so much time trying to erase them from the public sphere.

[@Animaniac-vd5st]

Pretty far left myself: One core problem is that we tend to see the current view on all topics as laws and if you violate one of them, you're considered an outsider. The right welcomes you if you just agree with them on some topics. You have no problem with LGBTQ and most immigrants but have reservations on some others? Welcome in the pipeline, you will learn the rest.

[@phryg2035]

I hold mostly far-left views too, but I agree with your observation that the left seems a lot more concerned with this sort of 'ideological purity' than other groups. Edit: my point is not to discredit the left, but to remind us that praxis is more important than purity

[@Onii_Chan_Kenobi]

There's a lot of learning that goes into being far left that we can't help others learn if they're not on the team. But conversely, even in this thread there's examples of people who believe they were on the team and are talking exactly like right wingers did right before 2016. They're ramming their shoulders into the Overton window as hard as they can while they blame the far left for all their problems.

[@Aleara27]

To be fair, a left-wing movement that welcomes homophobes, transphobes, racists, sexists, etc. would be a movement that can hardly get anything done for the broader advancement of the rights of those groups, and thus be useless as a left-wing movement. The right can afford to be less selective because once you've bought into one type of bigotry, it's really easy to buy into the rest, and the vast majority of people bought into at least one type of bigotry already (generally due to their upbringing). While the opposite is also true (once you've unlearned one bigotry, it's easier to deconstruct all the other ones you might have held), that process still requires putting in more effort than just gorging yourself on right-wing memes that demonize everyone different from you. Ultimately, we have to accept that we're at a disadvantage because it's easier to hate than to love, and the people in charge of the media are on their side and not ours. Our propaganda can never be as effective as theirs because ours will never find its way on national television. Our messaging will never reach as many people because we speak to emotions that are snuffed out and discouraged by the very system we exist in, while they speak to emotions that are encouraged and even glorified. But giving up is not an option either. I don't really have any solutions, aside from being angrier with the system, playing the blame game too but with the right targets, but even that won't give us the platform that the right gets by virtue of being the movement of billionaires.

[@Volron265]

I think the problem a lot of hard left people have is condensed into the sentence "if you're not on the team". It's very tribalistic and exclusionary if you disagree with them. The problem many people have with that is that it's the same people touting off about how inclusive they are as they exclude everyone that doesn't think exactly the same way that they do.

[@Aleara27]

@@Volron265 That's just right-wing propaganda. We're inclusive of everyone, except those who would exclude others. Paradox of tolerance and all that. A left-wing movement willing to include homophobes, transphobes, sexists, and so forth would soon find itself excluding LGBTQ+ people, women, and so forth. It's a losing strategy in the long term. When it comes to disagreements not rooted in whether minority groups deserve rights, there's plenty of that on the left, and it's totally wrong to think that every single leftist isolates themselves from all people they have those disagreements with. That simply isn't a real thing.

[@Terrados1337]

When I was in university I was told that I was sexist for only associating with guys ... In a computer science class... Zero women attended. And that working part time was unfair towards poor people who actually needed that job. It never occured to that person (more on her later) that I too require sustenance and family situation might not permit freeloading. This was my first week at uni. There werent many situations like this but it stuck with me. Yes, she was white, from a rich family (poor kids dont drive new Mercedes), and owned a macbook with Che Guevara sticker. I hope she got over whatever haunted her.

[@gbjbaanb]

We have saying where I come from: "rich enough to be a socialist".

[@latlatko]

sure buddy.

[@DeDeDarth]

We will get back to the game "Don't believe his lies"

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

"DON'T LISTEN TO ONDORE'S LIES."

Can't believe I actually understood this reference. I feel so old and wise somehow.

[@71775926]

Remember Sammy Jankis

[@sigzil1985]

I'm in the UK, educated about 25 years ago, and I spent ages learning about the kings between 1066 and like 1700 but we totally skipped over any kind of foreign policy. Almost as if it was completely deliberate.

[@gbjbaanb]

it is - modern foreign policy will have changed dramatically by the time you left school. One political party would be replaced by another and the world would have changed. The foreign policy of even the early 2000s is already obsolete and only interesting to historians.

[@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet]

​@@gbjbaanbforeign policy is a euphemism for colonialism here.

[@g3intel]

​@@gbjbaanb... except the lingering impact of said foreign policy, the way institutions culturally orient around their function and then reproduce that orientation in their behavior later, the literal physical results and how they then shape the culture which produces them (a LOT of American domestic policy is developed out of the legacy of Vietnam, for example) is fundamental to in any way understanding said modern foreign policy...? Nothing happens in a vacuum

[@outlaw451]

Its funny because in the states we do go over the bad things we've done but it get totally overshadowed by patriotism, or at least it did. But the history of the USA is much shorter than anywhere in Europe.

[@Agiranto]

As a young white male gamer living in Egypt, working two jobs and trying not to lose a roof over my head...I'd say I have it pretty damn hard

[@shotgunreaper]

Just say "I have it hard" and then tell us details. You're an individual not a title or just one of a group.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@shotgunreaper He's making a point, you goofball.

[@shotgunreaper]

@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I haven't been called a goofball in ages lmao

[@markedone494]

⁠​⁠@@0neDoomedSpaceMarineim a white gay guy working two jobs and i dont own a property, i have it even worse then just by adding gay into that all. And i just made a point about how there is always someone who has it worse than you… Yet still, we are selfish in thinking. It will always be easier to convince these kids that they are in some way superior to other and that trying to make everyone equal is why they are having a hard time today… While literally everyone is having a hard especially minirities which are getting attacked today more than ever in the past 20 years.

[@A_Wild_Dyzzy]

For those more interested in Josh’s thoughts on schooling. I’d reccomend looking up Sir Ken Robinson. Author and education worker that did a lot of work to support education nurturing creativity and the passion to learn. Also in understanding how different kids learn. He wrote a book called “The Element” and it’s quite good! Props, Josh! I appreciate your perspective and I’m glad you took the time to share it! Sincerely, A US citizen that feels the same way about their own schooling system.

[@sethkarma2072]

Not only are they told that their problems aren't important many of them are told that they will grow up to be the cause of other peoples problems which instills a sense of despondency. I'm sure everyone knows how frustrating it is to be blamed for something you didn't do.

[@DictatorDoPa]

"grow up to be the cause of other people's problems"

[@sethkarma2072]

@@DictatorDoPa What I mean by it is essentially if young people are being fed the idea the men are the cause of all these problems that means eventually that blame will be directed at you once your older. I see my yonger brother going through this as he recently turned 21 now hes being perceived as a man has all the baggage that comes with the publics current perception of men placed on him.

[@centerfield6339]

JSH is also saying their problems aren't important. He's saying they're wrong to think of them as problems.

[@DictatorDoPa]

@@sethkarma2072 That's true.

[@DictatorDoPa]

@@longdong8575 It's not supposed to make sense. They're dehumanizing you because they resent your Individualism.

[@iller3]

Young Men feeling like they have no purplose and dropping out of the work force IS one one the biggest worries we all should have because a country is only as economically healthy as it's Staple producing Industries can support it to be. All the GDP numbers we see quoted are based off Asset-Market speculation, IE: NONE OF ITS REAL.

[@staomruel]

What made the Civil Rights movement with Dr. King so powerful was framing their demands for progress from the perspective of the worker. Progressives need to find a similar approach for today.

[@TreeWiseBig]

Online discourse regarding anything tends to be reductive. This group mentality permeates through all of the discussions I come across. Nuance and expertise are sidelined for broad statements or overarching narratives. In the end, no political discourse solves anything. In fact, it seems like solutions are actively put down by presumed "facts" inferred from emotionally charged perspectives. I would claim, as a Turkish left-leaning person, I am a bit unaccustomed to the political realities of the USA for the citizens of it, yet I can easily draw parallels with the political discourse happening in Turkey. At some point they begin to blurr together. The differences in discourse can be staggering, but the core of the arguments tends to be formed in the same vein: Pointed emotions with no proper research, data, expertise or logic behind it. Tribes formed around those ideas dominate online spaces. To see any real discussion, you need to dig deep, and no person that has already made up their mind on the internet searching for validation is going to do that. In the end, Twitter is not the place to learn political thought. Directions for the places of learning were the best I was able to get from the internet. I still fear that without proper discourse with my peers, how can I tamper and improve my views? The go-to place for the political outlook is a rotten carcass constantly cannibalized by opportunistic flies to lay eggs and hatch maggots to perpetuate more of the same. Not only is this dangerous, it also hinders any blossoming thought that makes it way to it and polarizes it. A discussion violated and hijacked, endlessly bound to the internet. Any other purpose it once may have held is replaced with animosity.

[@Axterix13]

I think part of it too is that brevity rules, yet political stuff is usually complex. A position often has pros and cons, and there's often a lot of middle ground between. But that takes a lot of words to get across. And people don't want to spend time reading lots of text. It's why the NRA is so hardline in regards to gun control in the US. It is easy to get people to stand on one side or the other of "gun control is hitting what you're aiming at" vs "no guns", but it is much harder to come to a consensus when you ask people where to draw the line somewhere in the middle. And you see the same thing in other things as well. "With us or against us!" is an easy platform.

[@anoncyclist2131]

men improving themselves was the thing they didnt like. been aware of issues and fixing it wasnt something they wanted. self esteem make you realise when you are treat like shit, you can have the majority suddenly realising they are treat like shit and voting against the grand plans

[@taijithebard9495]

A nuanced and level-headed take on politics and current social problems? How dare you Josh?

[@onri_]

Yeah sure read his post, your either: A Good leftist with bad messaging Or A Radicalised right winger

[@normanmai7865]

I can't believe people nowadays would be reasonable like this! We need something to scream about into the void!

[@umbaupause]

Career self-end really, on the internet, I mean seriously.

[@Nocturnalverse]

Well, that's why it'll never gain any traction... it's not outrageous.

[@epyjacek]

Such a flagrant display of levelheadedness should be outlawed.

[@MancPeteYT]

"Anyone who capable of getting themselves into a position of power should on no account be allowed to do the job", was a Douglas Adams quote, from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. And rings true to this very day, haha.

[@TECHNICALfalcon]

I’m 25 and the reason I’m on the right is because there was a lot of courses which were female only . I wanted to either be a chef or do coding and make games , even considered an airbus apprenticeship but I applied for all three programs and didn’t get in because they said they wanted more girls in the industry . It honestly demotivated me like crazy because I was being told what I was passionate about was something I could never due to me being a man . And I’m glad I didn’t get into game making with some of the tweets and that some of the current studios have been tweeting like the avowed art director . Feels like a very hostile place currently .

[@SokiHime]

When so many young men are experiencing this common issue, yeah, it's a world-affecting problem.

[@DR3ADER1]

A problem with NO SOLUTIONS OR ANSWERS! The sooner everyone considers that fact, the better. What so many idiots everywhere, regardless of what they believe, endorse, or condemn, have had and continue to practice the habit of trapping themselves into thinking, is the expectation and demand to find solutions to everything. In reality, the expectation of finding a solution to everything is logically fallacious by default. And when faced with issues that can NOT be solved ever, not "in the next 20 years", not "in the next 60 years", EVER, humans recede into irrational thinking because we are biologically and genetically predisposed to seek easy comforts and delusions than challenge ourselves.

[@Zuchiniii]

Yes and if inclusion is a big part of your agenda, excluding a big portion of people is hypocritical and not a clever thing to do for your party

[@doomguy4945]

@@Zuchiniii I still find it hilarious that the party of inclusion and understanding immediately blamed blacks, hispanics, and men overall for the election. They aren't even trying to ask these voters *why* they decided to vote for the other party.

[@MeB-ko6ov]

@@Zuchiniii its exclusionary by design

[@doomguy4945]

@@Zuchiniii They don't actually care about diversity -- look at how quickly they blamed minorities after they lost.

[@SwenBoxum]

10:13 -11:03 I am crying. This was the brick wall I ran into after middle school. I made it through high school, but when I entered college I found out (or rather, got to prove what I already suspected) that despite having fairly high qualifications, I had no actual base to build on and no real clue what I was doing. I collapsed hard and eventually fell out of school. I tried a few more times but once I had been violently thrown out of that hamster-wheel, I could not get back in, I ended up completely burned out. I got lucky in the sense that I met some mental-health people who got me and what I ran into and were/are helping me find my own way through this. I've had to do a lot of my growth over again, or much later than could have been. That said, damage was done during a very important time in my development that I doubt will ever go fully away. I have the additional fact that I am Autistic and have ADD (not ADHD), but I don't think that means the issues I faced are unique to me. Autistic people are sometimes compared to canaries in a coal-mine: there's a problem there that's affecting everyone, they are just the first to fall over. Anyway, I could go on about this specific issue forever, but I just want to say how nice it was to hear it from someone "in the wild". From a teacher no less :)

[@Sleepvertical]

As a current professor who teaches students who have just entered the college system for the first time... You are absolutely correct. And it is getting harder and harder to not only teach in the age of Ai but to get a student to care about learning.

[@WolfHreda]

0:15 Joke's on you, Josh, I'm an avid H.P. Lovecraft fan. Screaming into the void is one of the main things I've got. And the absolute dearth of likes on my tweets proves that the void is indeed vast and uncaring. 😂

[@brotherbrad1617]

Are we the same. I really would love for them to respond.

[@LifeForAiur]

I think all it takes is one hard look on statistics regarding depression and suicide to see the genuine real problems young men face. Sure, we can always find more serious issues but you can say that about anything. Yet it seems hypocritical, to emphasize microaggressions and tone-police discourse, because that can essentially be handled the same way: by ignoring and stating that there are bigger problems. When there's this double standard, it is of no surprise young men feel that they are not wanted. Every conversation about them is with a heavy hand, perpetually telling them to reflect on the consequences of history, as if their existence had anything to do with that. I think a lot of the extreme left that have these positions are essentially morally justifying their intolerance and hatred towards men (because sometimes it genuinely is hatred) through mental gymnastics regarding ideology. The unfortunate consequence: further radicalization of both groups.

[@crusaderpenguin5326]

Very well said. I agree with Josh's broader point here but saying that they still aren't issues in the grand scheme of things is still part of the problem. Men's issues matter just as much.

[@ronmastrio2798]

An ideology which ascribes collective guilt to certain groups while avoiding it for all others will only result in that group rightfully feeling as though they are being discriminated against and radicalise them. The incoherence and outright evil of progressive ideology has made this.

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

"Sure, we can always find more serious issues-" This right here is the main problem. "More serious issues" is nonsense. It is a lie. A man who has never experienced real hardship or pain, and a man who has seen endless death and destruction, can both be miserable. At the end of the day, when they are pondering their lives, they will fall back on the same existential dread most suffer from. Their lives can feel equally terrifying and volatile. I've seen plenty of tragedy and hardship in my life, but when I think back to when I was a kid, things didn't feel much different. Life was just as scary, my problems felt just as real. Because at the end of the day, the idea of life and death and existence can be just as traumatizing as anything you'll suffer later in life.

[@Evanz111]

Kudos to you for being able to articulate your stance. Stuff like free school meals and the safety net play a big factor, but we have to think beyond our own circumstances. It’s kinda made me afraid to speak out about my own political stance.

[@SubzeroBlack68]

I disagree with the individual young mans problems being insignificant in the Grand scheme of things. Because half the population are or were young Men. If you help individual young men, you are helping all the individual young men get to a better place. Thats half the population. If every young man decides to focus on bettering their local community instead of the "Grand scheme of things". They would literally improve the grand world problems.

[@Mrs.Dollette]

It's so easy to crap on poc and women in games, for views. Thank you for not giving in, and doing that. I'm sure I'm not the only black woman who loves your channels

[@ulture]

if your problem is with berating young men, your problem isn't with the 'hardcore leftists', it's with libs

[@Victoordk]

As someone who leans left, I agree with what you said, especially schools. The fact it suppose to teach us, socialize us, and instil "learning is fun", all I learned Is I'm the socially slow and the fall behind black sheep and learning is suffering and not worth living for. Thankfully my life got saved by my last teacher who could tell something was wrong. But these damages still exist even after turning 23

[@Fade2GrayOG]

'Shut up and sit down' may not be the best voter outreach strategy.

[@happymate8943]

For the record, if you guys haven't seen the recent daily show the Dems or people that were supposed to be left have been advertising and becoming more right leaning. They were for more strict border policies, anti-trans , and more in the side of Israel. The thing about the parties is that people who registered in the party don't mean they're going to be conservative or progressive. Many minorities have had conservative beliefs for years .

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

That _would_ matter... if voting did.

[@irving_a3445]

But it IS one of the best board game review channels I know.

[@NauticalOnion]

@@irving_a3445 my man

[@jtau87]

I came so close to pooping myself until I realised he said "Kingdom of Heaven" and not "City of God"...

[@itachillianen]

This video is crazy. Resume of the video: 1 - your problems are irrelevant (you dont need a stable country or economy) 2 - my problems are more relevant than yours, so give me your money so I can fix my problems (you can just print money, you work, I solve my problems, win-win) 3 - European countries do not exist in England history classes (not even TEA? brought in by the Portuguese? Imagine being English and not talk about Tea at school)

[@GoobleGaming]

"You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.” ― Jonathan Swift

[@varunbhateorz]

"Schools don't teach you how to learn" - you hit the nail on the head, bud. I resonated with this in a different time and geographical zone. And the part about parents and the role of parenting in education/critical thinking is spot on. This was a very enjoyable 20 minutes.

[@stonemichacross]

4:40 Delegitimizing and Minimalizing peoples genuine challenges in life while pretending to have empathy for them is certainly a leftist take ill give him that.

[@LevantineR1]

It's like he genuinely can't help it.

[@Meow_Tse-Tung]

I think center and center-left political parties not addressing the needs of the people is more of a problem than a small percentage of loud leftists telling men they're bad. We shouldn't be catering to a specific demographic of people when our own politicians couldn't care less about _all_ of us, which their policies reflect. Fixing messaging this way is better than what consultants are suggesting, which is moving further right, but neither way is attacking the real problem.

[@justinland1208]

Very true, actually reminds me of the Norm Macdonald 'Its the hypocrisy that's the worst part" joke.

[@DR3ADER1]

Which is why you must ABANDON THEM! There's a good reason why you abandon cults. They prohibit progress and critical thinking by design.

[@Kryptnyt]

The Democratic Party hasn't been interested in offering a popular candidate, or letting the american people choose nominees in any case. You know that Bernie was tremendously popular and then they pushed Hillary. They've been suppressing democracy in this way and suffering for it. In four years, they will not be able to lean on the campaign message of how bad Orange Man was during that four years. I think we'll finally see some fresh people show up from both parties, and I'm optimistic for that. We've had enough of the presidents that we deserve, we need a president that can inspire all of us to be better.

[@necaacen]

yes, for sure. heres how i view this area of thinking: identity politics is a right wing talking point. they use identity politics to divide the working class who they are waging class warfare against. the left needs to push back against the bigotry of their identity politics in order to protect vulnerable people but we cant forget that is not the actual war we need to be fighting, that is the distraction they are using to hide what is happening in the world of economics which is what actually matters. in the world of economics there is no hard left power, in the usa there is centre right vs hard right economics and in the uk there is centre vs right. this is why the 'left' is losing elections, not because of a witch hunt on twitter, theyre losing it because the democrats and labour have been taken over by centre/centre right politicians who are not offering actual democractic socialism that works for the working and middle class.

[@elk3407]

I think the irony of the small percentage telling men they are bad is that they don't even understand the leftist theory. Patriarchy isn't "men bad", it's the patriarchs that are bad. The average man is just a body to be broken in the wars and factories owned by the patriarchs, while being told that they could become a patriarch too if they work hard enough (they won't), and women have it even worse because they only exist to give birth to men to keep throwing bodies at the machine. This is the actual idea of patriarchy. It's always the people in power, not some original sin of being the wrong gender.

[@AbigatorM]

18:00 To the guy in chat that claimed "like germans. they went on vacation between 1939-1945" i have to tell you as a history teacher in germany. there is not one topic more discussed in history class than ww2. out of the 6 years of history calss in the gemran school system 2 years are ww2. For the exact purpose to stop it from happening again. There is a difference in not liking your past and not acknowledging your past.

[@dgarrard100]

Trying to be sympathetic to men's issues while comparing them to children throwing a temper tantrum is an interesting strategy. Sad that it's still genuinely​ better than the hard left, who don't even give what little concession Josh does (that men's problems matter to them).

[@Yotrymp]

He's still stuck in trying to fit social norms, which are very wrong at the moment

[@histhoryk2648]

-Egyptians -Greeks and Romans -Battle of Hastings 1066 -World War I The education system literally skipped the best part of "Savages, Savages" For the Queen and the Kingdom we're taking over the world

[@lordciasteczkor6066]

How can You even do that? That's the lion's share of British history. What abou Napoleon and Trafalgar? I thought the rise of The Royal Navy should be a point of great national pride. I am absolutely shocked.

[@MoreBrainz]

In my American history education we spent maybe a week on WWI and like 2 months on WWII the teacher I had was great but he had to teach what the district put in place and it was terrible I love history and learned so much from KZbin that literally put my schooling to shame

[@lordciasteczkor6066]

it's natural to gloss over certain parts. Education system aim to teach the history from their people's perspective, which is fair. Here in Poland we learned almost nothing of African or Asian history, which is a shame, yes but an understendable one in my opinion. What I don't get is how You can skip over Brotish Empire in the UK. It's almost 500 years for crying out loud. Imagine if for America it was: first settlements, War of Independance, nothing, not even Civil War, and then WWII. It's madness.

[@iansanford6544]

Did anyone tell him yet, the Queen's been dead a bit, bud

[@mikester4896]

@@lordciasteczkor6066 I think the reason for skipping the British Empire in schools is mainly due to the atrocities and horrors that were inflicted on the countries we colonised to keep the illusion that the British Empire was great when in actuality it was a terror on the people who we happened to encounter.

[@richardmeunster8743]

"I wasnt poor. I had birthday presents." spoken like a real poor person.

[@AzureGreatheart]

As a US Citizen with a love of history, I have no idea what the fuck the "Pony Express" was.

[@Billybobjoe]

It's like Panda Express for horse meat

[@LevantineR1]

The only place I've seen mention of it is in older Warner Brothers cartoons that take place in the old west.

[@michaelblosenhauer9887]

You must not be a US citizen or love history then

[@16randomcharacters]

It sounds like the British education system has the same kind of approach to history as the corporate history pages of every Japanese and German company that is more than 80 years old. Founding -1935 1950-present.

[@RachelRoseMitchell]

i can never begin to predict the direction any of these videos will go in

[@Lastofthefreenames]

I dont like the analogy at 4:06, comparing my problems to that to a child. You are still infantilizing men that way.

[@bobjones6154]

I think the problem I have with this is that josh is blaming other very powerless people for problems that don't really compare to the problems caused by the people in power. I'm a member of the "far" left, we are the most powerless people in modern western politics and I take umbrage with being blamed for problems I myself am not causing nor responsible for. My point is this; it is easy to blame the "radical left" (something that I believe is so small and insignificant to basically not be statistically relevant) for problems caused by the people in power. It is not the rad lefts fault that young boys didn't and don't vote for left wing political parties, it is the political parties fault for not selling those boys something worth voting for or supporting. This is because modern left wing political parties aren't really left at all, they're centre right at best. They offer nothing for young men or young women. Remember that there are young boys in the far left too, they also get nothing out of supporting these parties, just the continuance of the status quo which we all know is crap. Don't blame the left, don't blame the powerless, blame those in power. We lefties are powerless, we truly are, the reason people think we have power is bcos the cynical actors on the right (and in centre left parties) are blaming us for their own mistakes and for their own gain. Don't fall for their BS.

[@OneTimeACraft]

the crazy is Josh situation Hayes Strife. Ye man.

[@Injemoedersehuis]

I hated going to school. I always felt like I wasn't learning anything. If the subject was interesting to me I'd do research afterwards at home and add that information in answers on tests. I only remember 1 'teacher' who appreciated this. Needless to say I never got far in school as remembering stuff is boring and I suck at 'learning' that way.

[@thesuperginge1348]

That was my experience of Primary school, and then going to Secondary school was just non-stop bullying and building a strong base of trauma that would affect me for the next 20+ years. School was the worst time of my life

[@eopatcjo]

Oh right, center left globally. Not center left in America

[@justaperson2693]

lmao

[@VinceMouse]

I would settle for the middle ground of 'we'll do what we can, but there are a lot of problems in the world'. At the very least acknowledging that our problems ARE problems, and that we can't help anyone else if our lives are in (relative) shambles, would be nice.

[@iamme625]

Turning to the side that doesn't want to do anything about anyone's problems just because you're not the target demographic that's being coddled right now is pretty wild though.

[@VinceMouse]

@iamme625 Nothing is better than outright hatred and disgust.

[@Supernova094]

as a non-western hearing " lucky enough to be raised by 2 parents " is the saddest thing i've heard in awhile.

[@JeyKalda]

Isn't that a world-wide problem though ? Or am I just misunderstanding your comment ?

[@Supernova094]

@@JeyKalda Nah not a world wide problem , I dont know anyone with step parents or raised by 1 parent all my life, rare to see something like that here.

[@lanttu10]

@@JeyKalda In most of the world families are a lot tighter together and divorces aren't really a thing. A side effect of allowing divorce easily is that people would rather end a relationship than work through the problems.

[@_PinkiePie.]

@@lanttu10 Moreso a side effect of marriage being allowed easily and having extraordinarily young minimum ages for it. Divorce is not easy and not cheap, at least in the states

[@Arakus99]

@@lanttu10 another side effect is people staying in relationships that are horrible for them or even abusive because of social pressure

[@awesomeswifter1138]

My parents, both of them, have always been there for me. Nothing in my life is their fault. They've given me free reign on how I believe, feel, and look at life, never have they pushed their feelings on to me as how it should be, amazing people and I wish more people had parents like mine

[@npcragdolls]

this is crazy

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

Good, I was hoping I wasn't clickbaited. But now I can be assured that this is, indeed, crazy.

[@jesperengelbredt]

In the grand scheme of things NO problem matters. The universe is so vast and we make up such a small part of it that we cant even write it out as a fraction. So if problems are to be judged on that scale, NO problem matters. Not even the worst possible problem that someone can come up with when dismissing the problems of other people. So maybe we should just agree not to compare problems like that?

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

You're 100% right. This is the comment I was looking for, and it should be common sense. Tragedy strikes both rich and poor alike. Even billionaires can suffer. The idea of "privilege" has turned people into morons.

[@ElectricNikkiGames]

You're right, I learned how to learn by being a fighting game player. After years of playing those games and going to tournaments and learning so many things about them, I learned how to learn so many things about so many other things. That helped me in college and working in IT and pretty much everything I've ever set my mind on doing.

[@DeepCognition-iu5bv]

You're not talking about the extreme left at the start of this video. You're talking about liberals. Us extreme leftists are not much interested in empty moralizing, but rather material conditions. A simple trick to distinguish liberals from leftists is by checking whether the logic they present leads inevitably to every industry becoming a cooperative.

[@sik3xploit]

"Who radicalized you?" _"You did"_

[@Was_issen]

I usually don't talk about politics with anyone. And it won't change now. I just wanna say: Josh. I really love what you're doing and you're one of the kindest and sympathetic ppl out there. Don't change and don't let em get you down❤

[@Max-cm5pp]

Most things in life on an individual level, don’t matter all that much, it’s true. However, anyone being told repeatedly that they don’t have real struggles, that they don’t get to have an opinion on something, that by nature of their race and gender they’ve wronged someone else, that person is at minimum going to get defensive if they have any self respect at all. Meanwhile, while being told that stuff over and over, the same people are told that microaggressions -literally small petty things that don’t matter much- are literally violence. How can that not be incredibly frustrating?

[@JDogtheAutisticGiant]

The thing a lot of people (especially teachers tbh) seem to gloss over with the education issue is some kids genuinely don't give a fuck about learning. You could be the best teacher alive and they still wouldn't listen to you. Some people are just shits.

[@sum1wholuvsmen913]

9:12 as a kid who just graduated and is starting the college process, it is a ridiculous step up from highschool. I'm expected to live on my own AND go to school AND work off my debt after just getting out of a place where I have 3 bathroom breaks a week. And after college, its just more working so its even less responsibility than college + work. We give the hardest part to such young people and it drives me crazy.

[@kahunab7400]

The 'men have no problem' part is not the hard left. It's the Hillary faction.

[@SatanicBarbeque]

When you scream into the void, the void tells you that you're wrong and that you should stop talking, because you suck, and you don't deserve love. The void wonders why you haven't sudoku'd yourself yet. The void thinks you're selfish for waiting so long. The void continues screaming long after you go silent.

[@harku123]

As someone who works in small politics it's crazy to think I had to stumble upon a video from a gaming channel to explain so well why populists are gaining so much clout in the modern internet age. You've always been really good at explaining things and I think you said you used to be a teacher right? You definitely make a great teacher with how well you can explain something

[@purpleglitch2524]

The "situation is crazy" situation is crazy.

[@petrus9067]

Kind of insane how in Brazilian school on history we do touch on basically every section. Classical history, egyptians and mesopotamians, then early greeks, actual greeks, then the romans, then early middle ages then it goes into middle ages, fudalism, the franks, the holy roman empire, england etc etc. Then there might be a week or two touching on aztecs, mayans and inca, india and china. Then the modern age actually gets more detailed with the renassaince, the age of exploration and then that little thing of we living on an ex colony of the portuguese. Anyways we kinda see a general overview of most things world history after 1700 or so, we see the american history for a bit too, and of course another branch of history is enterily focused on brazillian history. Then there' french revolution, the peoples' spring, british empire, china and russia entering the world stage, age of independences across the colonies, then world wars then african independece and modern history is mostly just brazillian history. Modern world stuff is teached in Geography. Anyways not that of course our school system is actually better but thats a lot of other reasons and factors anyways.

[@kingkarlito]

first off, thanks for this insightful comment into br schooling. exposed me to something i knew nothing about, yet find extremely interesting learning about a different culture's education system. this sort of information is really hard to learn about without speaking the language is this just an extremely affluent brazilian school you describe? otherwise i find it hard to rationalize this in depth education of history with the brazilian friends and randoms i have interacted with over the years in many, many different video games. i've been friends with many br going all the way back to diablo 2 pre lod expansion. my best friend 4-8th grade before he moved was br and he was definitely the type to have flourished in a school environment similar to what you describe, but of course his family had immigrated to oklahoma before he could have experienced almost all of the curriculum you released. we had a similar curriculum to what you described in oklahoma, until it completely collapsed after ww2. beyond ww2 thru modern history all we essentially were taught was that the viet nam war happened, the cold war meant duck and cover, and the berlin wall came down. i only knew the korean war happened because my history teacher fought in it, though he taught us nothing about it's causes, how it was fought, what insanity led to all the theatrical posturing along the dmz, or why it will never officially end. some day i will visit br, but until then i'm happy interacting with my br homies online. but i'm just super jealous of the curriculum you outlined. especially since oklahoma's curriculum has gotten substantial worse since i graduated, this year now requiring bibles in all public school classrooms.

[@petrus9067]

@kingkarlito hi! So, yeah unfortunately Brazil is one of the most unequal countries in the world, and super unfortunately is that while we have good and free college education (need to pass exams ofc), the free education system for elementary and high school is very unfunded and insufficient. However, and because of this, private school is not like the ones in the US and UK, most of them are way more affordable. So different people from the same social class might actually have either gone private or public school, especially because there are some well kept and good public schools too (although in general yeah, people with less resources are much more likely to just go free public school), and even on the private schools there is a range of price and quality. That said, the curriculum i described is indeed more or less the *intended* national curriculum for all schools to teach, and yes i did have a good, kind of expensive school (at least my last one, i changed schools quite often) but far, FAR from "elite" private ones whose monthly subscription can go to thousands and thousands of Reais per child. Anyways, those subjects i mentioned are teached on the 4 years of "Fundamental II" which i believe is like second elementary school(?). ages around 10 - 13 years old. The average private school (which again, is actually a bit more common here, not only something for the very rich) will have most of those subjects in the history discipline at least if the school is well, good. Then on high school (which is 3 years here) we review the important parts of those periods again, especially the more modern age, and again talking a lot about brazilian history (i think in high school feels like 60% of history classes are for brazil starting from 1500 ad.) But yeah, in the end like i said there are many factors around the brazilian education system that doesnt make all of this that effective, and you do have to consider public schools are in general not as detailed and thorough unfortunately, but the curriculum itself, is packed with subjects, for history and geography as an example. Like we see a lot of geopolitics on the end of fundamental II and thru high school. Although they are trying to make terrible reforms to our public highschool system that would strip a lot of this knowledge, targeting especially the humanities... Also that's cool that you have met some brazillians and are in contact with our culture , i hope what i said was interesting for you!

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

This is the best way to teach children about history. If you only teach them about their own history, they'll get an unbalanced view of the world. You see this happening all over the western world, especially when it comes to learning about topics such as slavery.

[@andrejjelcic3675]

There is a missing step in responsibility and education that gets jumped over. I felt this personally when I at 24 realized that I am only starting to mature at that point and that for me 18 was to early for me to become an adult. To start university, to start working, to become responsible for my own future. It was too sudden for me.

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

I dont personally like comparing peoples blights, I think it is a fundamentally flawed way to think. This fact can be seen when it comes to people who suffer from self-h**m or s**cide, to some things seem like ”its no big deal” untill that person is no longer there or something happens to them, then it suddenly turns out it was. It would be better, to instead of placing people into comparison and saying ”ok you get to have support while all of you other people need to deal with it, its not so bad get over it”, it would be better to openly discuss those things and evaluate them as equals and try to help people with their problems and pressing issues as much as possible.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

It's just amazing to me how the extreme left will shout to not be bigoted then proceed to label 75 million voters as Literally Hitler because a good chunk of them voted based on their personal problems potentially being fixed. Almost like those people are not at all progressive and just want someone to scream at to ignore their own problems.

[@drewpickle8916]

This is such a bizarre way of saying people gravitate towards people who understand them and invalidating the existence of young men makes young men mad and young men are the strongest and most influential demographic in most modern countries and it never goes well when a lot of young men feel disenfranchised especially when it is a political power doing the disenfranchising

[@RhyzzG]

I fell off watching you for a little while since life got busy..but man this title got me back in here and now I'm ready to go catch up on all of your videos and the like. -person with the same world views

[@tacitus6384]

If you don't think listening to young men and their problems matter, well there's someone who did: Donald Trump. And howd that work out for you?

[@Kreiger19]

As a current teacher in the US (MA specifically, #1 in ed in the country), a lot of our practicum and professional development is focused on helping students develop that love of learning and helping them engage actively in the classroom. The biggest struggle we're facing right now is that a lot of *parents* don't buy into the value of education because that love of learning wasn't taught as much in the past, so for students who don't buy in right away, it's harder to get that support from home.

[@kethmarhkfy7luf.263]

#1? That is not representative of the norm. It is the extreme outlier. Your anecdotal experience holds no value to generalizations.

[@Kreiger19]

Did you read my whole comment? I wasn't generalizing about the entirety of US education. I was expanding on one of his points within my specific context. Regardless, an outlier can still be representative of what good practice can look like. MA as a state didn't get where it is with education because of a statistical anomaly. It got where it is because of hard policy work, funding, and training for educators. Saying "that's an outlier so it doesn't matter" is like saying that the team that won the Superbowl isn't representative of what every team can achieve if they plan well, train, and make good decisions. Even within MA, there are still some districts that do worse than the state averages for some US states in the bottom half, and those are places that we as educators and policymakers are trying to learn how to do better.

[@AkiSan0]

i only had a handful of teachers that actually did teaching: - they showed HOW you learned - they showed you that i can be FUN - they were honest about it one of my higher education teacher ("prof") said: "You are not here to learn, you are here to get stress resistant."

[@nicodemous52]

In the US, they go over our past sins in agonizing detail. That's the majority of history class.

[@Ligerlug]

20 min later and i still have no idea what the hell is this about

[@tyeberiusmcintyre1879]

british history lessons apparently