Josh Strife Hayes situation is crazy

[@UndarkAido]

“We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they're elected. Don't you?” “Why?” “It saves time.” ― Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent

[@LordMegatherium]

Nice one. GNU PTerry

[@maf7742]

pratchett my beloved

[@RD-py9sv]

That might have helped the US.

[@DeReAntiqua]

Buys tons of sweets. Deludes himself into believing that they're meant for Halloween. Pretends to not be home. Consumes "leftovers".

[@LookHearMeOut]

Based. Innit

[@bplup6419]

Delightfully devilish

[@johnlucas2838]

I did the same shit.

[@FF-tp7qs]

Xv​@@LookHearMeOut

[@philipprinkens4659]

well ... would be a waste to let them go bad

[@TheLFDream]

"You cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into." fuck me that is a very clever point

[@okayhellohihowyadoin]

It’s a very old very wise saying

[@intermaria]

Crazy how Josh sits slightly to the center-left in the video

[@Elunae]

AUUUR NAAAAUH I CANT BELIEVE IT

[@bowlock9901]

Thats how the lie continues. He's actually centre right.

[@BrawndoQC]

Technically, he's sitting center-right.

[@dmcross91]

​@@bowlock9901seems like it's a matter of perspective 😎YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[@justinland1208]

@@bowlock9901 As everyone knows, being center left just means you're 10 years away from being center right.

[@joshemeloshe9453]

Josh’s grid based inventory has really reached the next level

[@insensitive919]

He unlocked all the extra slots

[@botulin1443]

We need four-dimensional kallax

[@Alistair_7609]

"i am 100% all for democracy, until i am in charge" is peak politics

[@Archmage9885]

Yep.

[@Korodarn]

Democracy is bad, I was against it before the election. Divine right of kings was wrong, but a better and more accurate narrative than the concept people can aggregate their views into coherent "public policy."

[@Malygon]

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles." - Frank Herbert, Children of Dune

[@fededevi1985]

"..but people are retarted" cit.

[@Archmage9885]

@@Malygon That quote is an accurate summary of every communist and far-leftist, including Josh.

[@merdufer]

The situation situation is crazy.

[@dallinjc3]

Insane

[@marshallc6215]

The situation situation is situation.

[@admirallove6180]

The discourse discourse about the situation situation is also crazy

[@vili-pekkavaltonen5943]

Its crazy allright..

[@pvshka]

The situation is crazy. Is crazy. Crazy.

[@iBackPackGG]

the clickbait asmongold type meta title

[@cyberturkey77]

more like pyrocynical

[@JoshStrifeSays]

I fucking gave up

[@ssjbargainsale]

@@JoshStrifeSays To be fair, it worked. But I probably would've watched it regardless

[@dallinjc3]

If it works, it works

[@vodkaffee4856]

Guys, Charlie is the grandfather of that format

[@danilooliveira6580]

the problem with the "your problems don't matter in the grand scheme of things" is that you can keep moving it forward indefinitely until you get to the most unfortunate person alive. so if you follow that logic no one's problems matter, not men's, not women's, not trans people's. so that is not a very healthy stance to take, life is not a competition about who suffers more, that is the problem with pragmatic altruism. we should acknowledge and help everyone, independent on what is their struggle.

[@Iamapinkelephant]

I do believe that you've reiterated exactly what his point actually was.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@Iamapinkelephant kinda, yes, I'm just clarifying his stance.

[@notaprinny]

You can actually keep going. Why does it matter if we destroy the planet and crack it into space dust? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Just look at the size of the universe.

[@YouhaBaha]

I will improve the point, first worlders problem are trivial, third world problems are serious, there is a difference between whining about not being able to pin estrogen and cutting your genitals vs wishing your brother wasnt bombed by a missile and wishing you had enough food to last another day.

[@catalyst772]

british man being center left is probably the most generic british youtuber stereotype

[@rokva5771]

That so? I could've bet that it was the opposite.

[@cyberturkey77]

How he can be center left after seeing what Labour has done to the UK idk man guys deluded.

[@Bustermachine]

@@rokva5771 In terms of the UK overall you'd be right. In terms of the UK that is young enough to be hosting a channel on youtube . . . eh . . .

[@acdcljb]

@@Bustermachine so true

[@Kamylospl]

what's your point tho

[@Tyanus2]

I can never understand people writing paragraphs of text on twitch for it to go out of sight in 2s

[@Xxgxxaxx]

Yeah same

[@Noqtis]

Probably because you never use twitch. I'm not a fan of streams so I couldn't engage much with chat but I tried it out for the lulz a few times and often people would whisper me back reacting to what I wrote. I ended up chatting with some of them. This isn't anything mysterious but the very same what happened in the beginning of chatrooms where people would spam: 'write 12345 to chat with me' to find themselves private chatting partners. It's just now while a stream is happening and you are expected to write something original enough so at least one person reacts directly to you.

[@ZeptoZeno]

Never understood this either. Who would even care enough to read the essay of a random name in a Twitch chat?

[@Tyanus2]

@@Noqtis That explains it a bit, thank you.

[@Tyanus2]

@@ZeptoZeno Yeah that's my perspective lol

[@en4135]

One of my most ingrained memories coming up in the public school system was the frightening amount of times I was told "Act your age" the first time was in 6th grade. I was 12, I got too ingrained into a conversation with my friend in class. Various teachers did this and it ended up creating this bizarre pecking order where nobody actually knew what we were supposed to act like and we practically ranked each other over how mature we were. Being growing hormonal children this naturally combined with our growing interest in sex so we all rushed forward into acting like late teenagers, as a result my later school life was filled with an incredibly unstable student body that was incredibly cruel, sexual, and emotionally immature where breakdowns were a common occurrence. It never really clicked to me until much later that so many of my teachers thought the Children being Children were inconvenient, it's one of many reasons I have a bizarre intrinsic hate of school in general now.

[@sydneys207]

"There are people with far worse problems" does not mean you don't have problems. I'm pretty feminist-leaning, and even I can recognize that many things men say are problems... *are problems*. Men's mental health is fucked for so many reasons. The loneliness epidemic *does* hit every demographic, but men broadly have it worse. Hell, I can even recognize that there is some over-correction on a lot of things that are reasonable.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Sure. But it's one thing to say it and another to actually live it. Feminism is a movement historically meant to help women gain rights, not trod down on or speak badly of men. But that's mainly what it's used for contemporarily. One single woman speaking against that means nothing.

[@YevhenRawrs]

Feminism is absolutely incomplete without a compassionate approach to men's issues incl. how they suffer from toxic masculinity (the actual toxic masculinity, not the insincere assumptions about the term) and any Feminist who has read a book and isn't just an online sh!tposter will confirm this.

[@Shadow.Darkraven]

men dont have problems they dont matter in the grand scheme of things and we should pull all support for programs that could possibly help men

[@Mrgiggles9007]

@@spankyjeffro5320 I'm not so sure that is actually entirely true that feminism has been primarily for women because I have seen many feminists speaking about literature from the years of Women's Suffrage that go very much into men's issues and how men are affected by the very things that are causing women's suffering. It's just the movement, like many movements, has been 'hijacked' by the elite class and spun in a way that makes it so much more alienating, hostile and divisive than it's original purpose and because they have the strongest media presence or even outright control the media that is the message that gets put out to the masses about what the 'movement' is despite that the vast majority of the people in the movement are adamantly opposed to that message, it doesn't matter. They spend top dollar to make sure people hear feminism and think 'feminazism' and that's the end of it.

[@15thobserver]

@@spankyjeffro5320 "One single woman speaking against that means nothing" A quote by Rosa Parks.

[@TheTdroid]

Like JSH, I am definitely left of center. We haven't had "a couple of years" of that. It's been a pretty consistent staple of a lot of how leftists and progressives have worked since at least 2016, when Bernie Sanders supporters (especially male Sanders supporters) were disregarded as sexists for liking Sanders (an actual progressive) over Hillary Clinton (a corporate democrat). The unwillingness to welcome young men, combined with the common hostility towards them, has backfired spectacularly politically for left leaning and progressive parties the last decade, because the right are happy to welcome them.

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

I feel bad for all those fools going over there to hang out with Bendejo Pepino and the Quartering and Matt Walsh and that broad who eats butter

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

Yep, people like vaush and hasan have been saying this for ages. We need to give young men a positive role model and a compelling narrative. And, "dont be toxic" is NOT a compelling narrative especially for young men just learning about politics.

[@TheHalogen131]

​@@butHomeisNowhere___They might be saying this, but absolutely evil and disgusting themselves. Nothing these two say is ever worth anything. They only want power, so they ban everyone, who even slightly disagrees, while spewing shit, like "America deserved 9/11" or "My principles are winning. Losing with your principles is worth jack shit". Actual quotes

[@Kuzushi42]

It's worth pointing out that being center left in the UK is equivalent to being progressive left in the US, as our Overton Window has shifted so far to the right over the last thirty years. If Bernie Sanders were a politician in the EU, he'd be seen as a centrist on most issues.

[@RisqueBisquetz]

@@butHomeisNowhere___ blergh v*ush and h*s*n ew ew ew ew

[@Vok250]

Me and my wife are teachers. You are absolutely spot on! Especially the bit about COVID kids having no social skills.

[@whatever3554]

- "Loves cats, writes on walls" - Hmm, I have a 2 year old nephew who's egyptian

[@skyknight0408]

At least he doesn't do his wall writing with poop. My nephews are both grown up up now, but the elder one totally did that when he was little.

[@aj0413_]

I’d disagree on the “doesn’t factually matter in the grand scheme” thing. Maybe it matters *less* than other issues, but it does still matter. If you start arguing “in the grand scheme” then I can just as easily say no problems matter; humanity will die out anyway. Like, what you said is good, but it also has the implicit feeling of patronization

[@furryfox12]

I think it might be one of the bigger issues in the grand scheme of things. It has huge impact on the political world. It may push many men into depression, isolation, self harm, agressive behaviour, and even suicide. I think we're witnessing a snowball effect, which may reach a critical mass in 5-15 years and result in some scary scenarios. And I am not saying this just to focus on the outcomes. I trully believe men's lives are as valuable and important as any other person's.

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

Ripple effect.

[@aj0413_]

@@furryfox12 Definitely agree. But I’m willing to concede to others that there’s other issues such abortion deserving more immediate focus. As a white guy who’s straight and fit at 31, I have to acknowledge a natural bias and knowledge/experience gap when arguing social issues. I try to avoid creating a pyramid of these things cause it feels like victimhood olympics….which is it’s own toxic issues on social media 😅

[@asdergold1]

He did say he leans left.

[@dojelnotmyrealname4018]

Yeah it feels like he doesn't realise he's still doing it. Atleast I don't think he's doing it on purpose, but he definitely needs to reflect on it.

[@philipearakaki]

The thing is, the online-left has this issue where theyre a bunch of upper middle class americans that miss the trees for the forest because they only got across it by helicopter. Americans are also very, VERY weird about group mentality, and americans kinda like dictate the overall culture of politics online.

[@JohnDoe-jc5kt]

US schools are quite similar. They only teach memorization, not genuine learning. I thankfully had good teachers who tried to support actual learning and research. Other schools I've been to only really focus on memory. Especially systems like the SAT and AP system. The way you pass those is through memorization. I passed my Ap exams, and I couldn't tell you a thing I learned on them. Even my AP teachers said on day one "You are not here to learn, you are here to memorize the test and get some classes knocked off of your expensive schooling at university".

[@MyVanir]

That's most of the world. Education was dumbed down to rote memorization of a list and those who cannot, do not want or are bad at it are basically a nail to be hammered in.

[@screwgoogle4993]

Not even memorization. The point is to shove you in buildings full of blacks to condition you to live in fear of them when you are a child. You get two choices in school: Kiss their ass and be accepted by them, or have some self-respect and be targeted for psychological abuse. Thankfully the government hasn't clued in on the value of martial arts training in breaking this brainwashing. No one can force their thoughts on you if you can defend yourself. Good thing blacks can't fight for shit, but a lot of times, kids don't understand why anything is happening to them. They get told not to be racist, and also to just let black people hit you and do nothing. They get told to ignore the evidence of their eyes, or else. Is it any wonder so many people are slaves to a "believe this or else" mentality? This is why I will never believe in hitting your children. It's how blacks "raise" children, and look how they turn into opportunistic rats targeting little old ladies and children. Screw that. Don't want people to hate you and your entire people? Don't abuse people. Don't put your hands on people. And certainly don't pull knives, try to stab people in the throat, fail, get cut open in the process, lie through your goddamn teeth to the courts just to spite people, and then cry racism. Because that is how you get people who hate you more than your most self-indulgent fantasy ever could. That is how you create genocidal hate, and I'm okay with that. Fuck around and find out. I'm ready for the Summer of Love 2.0. They will find the fuck out.

[@timothydoyle9635]

welcome to "no child left behind". where no child can fail, but you can only go as fast as the slowest person. also for a short answer. Teachers Unions are to blame.

[@CeesaX]

Hey man, not sure how old you are, but AP tests have been shifting over the last decade to have more of an emphasis on logical reasoning skills, and less on memorization. Source: I'm a high school teacher.

[@timothydoyle9635]

@@CeesaX not 100% sure on the other guy, but I caught the tail end of a very, very good semi-private k-12 school and nearly all my classes were ap, and the only memorization was needed for chemistry. CalcA, calc b, stat, music theory, physics, computer programming a/b were nearly zero memorization. Although as someone who read the textbooks before class and taught myself the subjects.... not sure how relevant my input is from about 20 years ago from the terrible education of Florida.

[@hollinkarelja7564]

one of the wisest things ive ever heard was "two things can be true at the same time" a persons problem can be both unimportant and very important and this is a good thing to think about

[@wholetyouinhere]

This is true, but it doesn't really even apply in this case. Men are dying by the millions in wars right now. Men are committing suicide and overdosing at far higher rates than women. Men comprise 95% of our prison populations. Men are the primary victims of violent crime by a long shot. Men are receiving less education. Men are now earning less money for the same jobs. If you told the aliens that men have it good on planet earth, they'd look down at all of this male misery and wonder wtf you're talking about.

[@marcforrester7738]

You may enjoy the philisophical rabbit hole lurking behind the phrase 'reality tunnel'.

[@Terrados1337]

When I was in university I was told that I was sexist for only associating with guys ... In a computer science class... Zero women attended. And that working part time was unfair towards poor people who actually needed that job. It never occured to that person (more on her later) that I too require sustenance and family situation might not permit freeloading. This was my first week at uni. There werent many situations like this but it stuck with me. Yes, she was white, from a rich family (poor kids dont drive new Mercedes), and owned a macbook with Che Guevara sticker. I hope she got over whatever haunted her.

[@gbjbaanb]

We have saying where I come from: "rich enough to be a socialist".

[@latlatko]

sure buddy.

[@Fluxikator]

Saying "your problems dont matter becasue problem xyz is more important" is in most of the cases basically just whataboutism. And a bad way to actually argue. Becasue if you rigorously applay that logic. Nothting really matters becasue any problems seems insignificant in comparison to the whole. As to the Problems of young Men: Another political youtuber i listen to made some great points about that. The Real problen in villifying young men. Or men in general is the lack of a solution. Saying: Youre the problem. Change. Doesnt solve anything. Especially if the connection is too vague. in example: Patriachy has made some bad things-> Patriachy is made up of men-> You are a man. So its your fault and you need to change. When Tearing down what man are or supposed to be because you belive thats bad. You need to offer a different outlook or solution. As in answering the question: How i am supposed to be? And when thats not done. It will in the end harm everyone. Including your own goal.

[@Animaniac-vd5st]

Pretty far left myself: One core problem is that we tend to see the current view on all topics as laws and if you violate one of them, you're considered an outsider. The right welcomes you if you just agree with them on some topics. You have no problem with LGBTQ and most immigrants but have reservations on some others? Welcome in the pipeline, you will learn the rest.

[@phryg2035]

I hold mostly far-left views too, but I agree with your observation that the left seems a lot more concerned with this sort of 'ideological purity' than other groups. Edit: my point is not to discredit the left, but to remind us that praxis is more important than purity

[@Onii_Chan_Kenobi]

There's a lot of learning that goes into being far left that we can't help others learn if they're not on the team. But conversely, even in this thread there's examples of people who believe they were on the team and are talking exactly like right wingers did right before 2016. They're ramming their shoulders into the Overton window as hard as they can while they blame the far left for all their problems.

[@Aleara27]

To be fair, a left-wing movement that welcomes homophobes, transphobes, racists, sexists, etc. would be a movement that can hardly get anything done for the broader advancement of the rights of those groups, and thus be useless as a left-wing movement. The right can afford to be less selective because once you've bought into one type of bigotry, it's really easy to buy into the rest, and the vast majority of people bought into at least one type of bigotry already (generally due to their upbringing). While the opposite is also true (once you've unlearned one bigotry, it's easier to deconstruct all the other ones you might have held), that process still requires putting in more effort than just gorging yourself on right-wing memes that demonize everyone different from you. Ultimately, we have to accept that we're at a disadvantage because it's easier to hate than to love, and the people in charge of the media are on their side and not ours. Our propaganda can never be as effective as theirs because ours will never find its way on national television. Our messaging will never reach as many people because we speak to emotions that are snuffed out and discouraged by the very system we exist in, while they speak to emotions that are encouraged and even glorified. But giving up is not an option either. I don't really have any solutions, aside from being angrier with the system, playing the blame game too but with the right targets, but even that won't give us the platform that the right gets by virtue of being the movement of billionaires.

[@Volron265]

I think the problem a lot of hard left people have is condensed into the sentence "if you're not on the team". It's very tribalistic and exclusionary if you disagree with them. The problem many people have with that is that it's the same people touting off about how inclusive they are as they exclude everyone that doesn't think exactly the same way that they do.

[@Aleara27]

@@Volron265 That's just right-wing propaganda. We're inclusive of everyone, except those who would exclude others. Paradox of tolerance and all that. A left-wing movement willing to include homophobes, transphobes, sexists, and so forth would soon find itself excluding LGBTQ+ people, women, and so forth. It's a losing strategy in the long term. When it comes to disagreements not rooted in whether minority groups deserve rights, there's plenty of that on the left, and it's totally wrong to think that every single leftist isolates themselves from all people they have those disagreements with. That simply isn't a real thing.

[@Judgement_Kazzy]

Crazy how constantly belittling and villainizing everyone you disagree with makes them not want to listen to you. Absolutely nuclear take.

[@Mediocrates9]

It’s weird to retroactively look at how self-flagellating and ingratiating celebrities and media after 2010 became. I think that’s what kicked off the belittling and villainizing of anyone that spoke out or criticized any of the socio-political state at the time and it slowly became more and more radical. We’ve essentially constructed a reason for people to be angry, then gave them cart-blanche to lash out against people as a group, as opposed to on an individual basis. And there were no repercussions if you spoke with the social narrative. Idk man, it’s just sad to me that so many people would rather be outraged than invest in their own lives and happiness.

[@happymate8943]

For the record, if you guys haven't seen the recent daily show the Dems or people that were supposed to be left have been advertising and becoming more right leaning. They were for more strict border policies, anti-trans , and more in the side of Israel. The thing about the parties is that people who registered in the party don't mean they're going to be conservative or progressive. Many minorities have had conservative beliefs for years .

[@Plight_]

You tend to start believing in weird things when you listen to weird people who would've thought

[@Starr3712]

Yet people thought t would be best to vote for the narcissistic bully constantly spouting hateful and racist shit.

[@tenaciousgamer6892]

Except the part where he attaches it to the far left, which is a bad take. The far left has no power in most of the developed world, the people berating men are vastly more closer to centrists, who have some social left leaning ideas. But none of the economic left, which a far leftist have both socially and economically leftist ideals would realize the pain of of the lower classes, including young men.

[@Tysonyar]

You're 100% correct about the reason for the behavior. You can't publicly say you don't care about someone as a person and then be surprised when they don't give you their vote. There are lots of other reasons as well but this is a big one.

[@Gabu_]

Which is much less important than, globally, rightwingers destroying education, because educated people don't vote for the right.

[@doomguy4945]

They genuinely forgot how to play the game. You get votes by catering to people, not by guilt-tripping them

[@Gabu_]

@doomguy4945 If people wont vote for them when the alternative is literally Hitler 2, then they're not the ones at fault

[@darwinxavier3516]

@@doomguy4945 Or at least put on a reasonable façade of caring about the concerns of people who can vote. Too many people are too far up their own ass, believing themselves to be the unquestioned default norm, and think everyone else just needs to shut up and fall in line.

[@Suilujz]

I remember seeing a news article which accused a celebrity of supporting something (war/russia/israel - I don't remember) cause they had not publicly condemned them yet. It's like there's an ever evolving list of criteria to meet, and there's little hesitation in throwing very tolerate centrists and apolitical people under the bus once their list appears short. Edit: It was my country's Eurovision contestant in 2023, the news article had a quote from a novelist: "He has not condemned Russia's illegal war. It is a statement."

[@KasumiRINA]

Nah just checking if they support ru is enough. Quick search shows that Steven Seagal, Oliver Stone, Roger Waters and Glenn Jacobs (Kane) are waste of oxygen. Even if someone doesn't directly endorse рu tіn (like these guys did), you can look up their takes defending аssаd gassing Syrians, or cheerleading for other psychos like Maduro... Trust me, if they supported one it's usually the rest too. The list haven't evolved since barrels with chemicals dropped on Ghouta more than a decade ago, it's real easy to actually notice wars happening instead of living in your bubble and pretend nothing ever happens and your biggest issue is who goes into which toilet & culture war BS. I don't care if someone is a "very tolerate centrist" if he literally supports my house getting bombed... It's just that simple.

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

Its virtually social black mail to try and guilt or indirectly threaten someone into supporting you or your beliefs. Because the implication is very clear, if you say anything but what we want you are the bad guy and people will spread that on the internet. It eliminates nuance and kills any constructive discussion that could be had on a politically complicated topic. Its such a shame.

[@XShrike0]

There was a period where internet people were harassing celebrities for not openly denouncing Israeli because of their response to Hamas. These people stated that not openly denouncing meant you were supporting. Even the celebrities saying that they didn't really know anything on the matter was not a defense. They would just get yelled at. "What would you need to know to not denounce them!"

[@blumiu2426]

You might be talking about this Russian actress picked for a Marvel film, but honestly it goes for all celebrities. You pick a side and damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[@thesupreme8062]

​@blumiu2426 i mean it's ok to not be public about your opinion, but you should be aware of what going on. And with situation such as ukraine which is probably on of the most black and white wars on history you should in your little be aware of it and keep it in mind so if you have a chance of helping in any small way you do, that could be donating or simply telling your politicians to send more aid. In in no way supporting the harassment of the russian actress btw just cause she's russian it dorsnt mean she has to publicly speak on it.

[@lukep.]

“As a center-leftist, I kind of dislike the way the hardcore-left is” Immediately get an ad for Star Wars mobile game showing Darth Vader 😂

[@diano357]

As a kindergarten teacher it is heartbreaking to see children be so excited for school and how fast their intrinsic learn instinct gets distorted by the current system. For those who don’t know we all are born with a learning instinct or more scientifically exploration behaviour. In gaming terms you have probably heard from Josh it’s like intrinsic motivation. You know how babies can’t stop themselves from putting random stuff in their mouth or toddlers constantly asking “why?”. It’s their instinct telling them to engage and experience the world. And it is the ultimate building block for healthy and excited learning. But as soon as children are in school they are put in an environment that is stressful, forces them to sit still for long periods of time and essentially punishes them for wanting to engage with the world and its wonders on their terms. The worst offender in this regard is the grading system. It essentially sublimates intrinsic motivation with extrinsic reward. And it is terrible because it makes children cram for an exam so they don’t get a bad grade (if they have the energy to learn at all) to then forget it anyway because the next test is coming up. Through this they are ironically unlearning to learn stuff for the sake of learning. Like Josh said: the education system is not built to help people learn… it is built to create cheap workers. The children of this world deserve better. We all do… (P.S. I have dyslexia so don’t be surprised about the lack of punctuation)

[@DeReAntiqua]

Okay, sorry, this is gonna be a bit of a rant, I can already tell, just skip it if you lack time or interest, but I feel like typing this out right now. German academic secondary school - which is separate from vocational secondary school (the former is called Gymnasium, the latter Realschule - there used to be a lowest tier called Hauptschule which was merged with Realschule in almost all federal countries) - does teach how to do research and so on - it is even promoted (although not required) to write a "Facharbeit" (subject paper), which is like writing a term paper at university, in grade 12 of 13, which is counted into your year's grades. Does that mean that kids are essentially divided into different life paths after 4th or (in a few northern federal countries) 6th grade, based on how they did in primary school? And does it mean someone who went to Realschule literally cannot apply to university unless he or she changes schools to go to Gymnasium after 10th grade, and has to deal with a STEEP learning curve because their education has been geared towards being able to do qualified work (artisan jobs, machine work, and so on), usually spending several weeks to months in internships in companies? Yes. Yes it does. Here's the thing people usually REALLY don't like hearing about this: It works. Extensive comparative studies have been done to countries where there is a unified school system as well as on "Gesamtschule", which is an alternative school concept you can choose to send kids to, but which not many pick. And the results are that kids who go to Gymnasium are far better prepared for university, as are kids who went to Realschule for immediately going into vocational training. And here's one people really, really, REA-HE-HEALLY don't want to accept, but which is ALWAYS shown in these studies: Crime rates for students at Gymnasium are SIGNIFICANTLY lower. Not just because you're putting the less-crime-prone kids in one place. Compared to Gesamtschule and other countries' unified systems, having academically excelling children in a separate school makes them less criminal, better at academia and all-around more developed. I know, it's a bummer to hear, but that trope of smarter kids explaining stuff to less smart kids and themselves getting a boost out of it has its limits. Some students simply can't deal with academia, and putting them together with intelligent children pulls everyone down. I went to Gymnasium. I did my Master of Education, i.e. I became a state-approved teacher. At Gymnasium, I learned three foreign languages, programming, and spent the last three years in school doing academic learning no a pre-university level, with three subjects I could pick (chemistry, English and history) singled out for intensive learning. Half of my classes in history and political/social studies were taught IN ENGLISH. Let's be honest: That's not the kind of school someone who can now barely manage to put stuff into a production machine right could manage. And do I wish it was different, that all kids could have the potential to do whatever subject they could wish? Sure. But unfortunately, a lot of kids simply can't. Some because their parents didn't give them a good start, some because their social environment is at fault, honestly some even simply because they can't manage, period, nothing anyone could've done about it. But that's no reason to pull down everyone with them in the name of a misguided sense of "making everyone equal". And on top, a lot of kids in Realschule that would've been in Realschule before the end of Hauptschule are way happier getting a solid vocational background. Really, the issue is with kids who previously would've gone to Hauptschule. Because those that are from that segment who weren't there because they simply COULDN'T deal with school learning, but because they are outright against learning? Those are a real problem. Because even in Realschule, they don't learn. After ten years of schooling, they have trouble wrapping their heads around simple machine work. They don't accept authority and aren't interested in actually doing work. So yes, I stand behind the German system, however much its patent success might fly in the face of wanting everybody to be equal when they're not only not, but can't be in the first place. And is it perfect, are kids never sent to a school which doesn't fit them ever? Of course not. But such cases are much rarer than you might think, and not only do the parents have the last word (the primary school teachers only give recommendations as to which school a student should go to, although the Gymnasium schools individually decide who is admitted into their specific school, so getting into one might be difficult with bad grades), but if kids either noticeably excel in Realschule or just can't handle Gymnasium, they have the option of changing school at any point.

[@diano357]

@@Kuchhh You are correct. English is not my native language and I was wondering myself for a second how to write it

[@spankyjeffro5320]

Children are prevented from engaging the world on their terms because their terms are dangerous and non-constructive. They need guidance otherwise they will eat dangerous things, touch deadly things and fall prey to even deadlier things. School helps focus their attentions with things adults know will help them. Your inability to realize why tests are needed does not mean they are not effective, especially so with learning "for the sake of learning.". You have the gall to say all of that BS and then say learning in and of itself is a bad thing? That's monumentally stupid. Go back to school, stop eating crayons and pay attention.

[@diano357]

@@DeReAntiqua I’m also German so I’m familiar with the system and I agree with you essentially completely. But I also think you might have misunderstood my intent a little. I don’t say by any stretch of the imagination that all children are born equal (from an potential intelligence standpoint of course) or even worse than we should stop schooling children. I’m was saying that we should work towards a world where the needs of children and the education system are brought into harmony. For example a first grade should start l little later in the day then it currently does because children at that age are simply not ready awake enough to really engage with schoolwork. Education is a complex and multilayered topic that includes so many different things for economics, state funding, family dynamics, social issues and so much more. I’m just sad seeing children being forced into a world that is not going to be kind to them because we adults don’t get our shit together. If that is unreasonable then I guess I’m just unreasonable to some. Anyway I really enjoyed your input on the whole thing ☺️

[@sevenember3332]

@@DeReAntiqua In America, (at least where I live) prior to Common Core where everyone is taught in a way to try to give the worst students some sort of step up, classes from primary on were separated into 3 sections. Slow, medium and quick learners. They weren’t called that, but it wasn’t hard to figure it out, especially when I had to repeat the previous year’s math lessons and got put in a different group for that year on. Years 9-12 had the option that for half of the day students could attend a vocational school (VoTech) that would teach things like masonry, culinary arts or childcare. Mostly studies that wouldn’t be something you’d go to a traditional university for. The other half of the day would be the required fundamentals of math, English (general literature and grammar), social studies (history, psychology, American government) and science. The alternative to VoTech was the standard 3-section classes where the top class track was called college prep. Supposedly, it was meant to prepare students for the methods of learning used in university by introducing research papers and giving the option of taking Advanced Preparation classes which you could take a test at the end of it and get college credit for the class. Unfortunately, much of what we were told was wrong. We didn’t have nearly as much homework as we were told we’d have and research papers had already transitioned from libraries and index card sources cited to entirely separate online research and sources. In short, I admire the description of the German system and its commitment to allowing students to study and learn to the best of each individual’s ability (and to preparing them for life as an adult), not to the worst student’s ability as what seems to be the case in America today

[@Psilocybin77]

EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING suffers. Trauma one up-man ship, or devaluing people's emotional health is evil.

[@upon-fe2720]

It's definitely abuse

[@1IGG]

Eh, I am not. But sure.

[@sowatome849]

Are you not evil or not suffering?

[@vhaelen326]

"just because you have it worse doesnt mean im doing fine"

[@Agiranto]

As a young white male gamer living in Egypt, working two jobs and trying not to lose a roof over my head...I'd say I have it pretty damn hard

[@shotgunreaper]

Just say "I have it hard" and then tell us details. You're an individual not a title or just one of a group.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@shotgunreaper He's making a point, you goofball.

[@shotgunreaper]

@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I haven't been called a goofball in ages lmao

[@markedone494]

⁠​⁠@@0neDoomedSpaceMarineim a white gay guy working two jobs and i dont own a property, i have it even worse then just by adding gay into that all. And i just made a point about how there is always someone who has it worse than you… Yet still, we are selfish in thinking. It will always be easier to convince these kids that they are in some way superior to other and that trying to make everyone equal is why they are having a hard time today… While literally everyone is having a hard especially minirities which are getting attacked today more than ever in the past 20 years.

[@taijithebard9495]

A nuanced and level-headed take on politics and current social problems? How dare you Josh?

[@onri_]

Yeah sure read his post, your either: A Good leftist with bad messaging Or A Radicalised right winger

[@normanmai7865]

I can't believe people nowadays would be reasonable like this! We need something to scream about into the void!

[@umbaupause]

Career self-end really, on the internet, I mean seriously.

[@Nocturnalverse]

Well, that's why it'll never gain any traction... it's not outrageous.

[@epyjacek]

Such a flagrant display of levelheadedness should be outlawed.

[@peterbabicki8252]

Ah yes, the good old _"consider yourself lucky, there are starving children in Africa."_

[@happymate8943]

I am highly sure that quote is used to show how "better" the western world is compared to the rest.

[@bobbycrosby9765]

@@happymate8943 people use it to justify ignoring someone else's problems. I heard it a lot from my parents growing up in the '80s.

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

The classic whataboutism.

[@happymate8943]

@@bobbycrosby9765 I'm aware of that. Just saying that can be used to compare who has it better.

[@eduardomartin8510]

@peterbabicki8252 Yep, rolled my eyes; men feeling disenfranchised, and stats do show this, is actually a BIG issue. Having said that, given that his politics is about conceding terrain in some areas to gain more terrain in other areas, he could be doing the same technique here with his own audience. "yeah I am with you guys, their problems aren't that big, but consider their perspective," boom he wins over his audience.

[@SokiHime]

When so many young men are experiencing this common issue, yeah, it's a world-affecting problem.

[@DR3ADER1]

A problem with NO SOLUTIONS OR ANSWERS! The sooner everyone considers that fact, the better. What so many idiots everywhere, regardless of what they believe, endorse, or condemn, have had and continue to practice the habit of trapping themselves into thinking, is the expectation and demand to find solutions to everything. In reality, the expectation of finding a solution to everything is logically fallacious by default. And when faced with issues that can NOT be solved ever, not "in the next 20 years", not "in the next 60 years", EVER, humans recede into irrational thinking because we are biologically and genetically predisposed to seek easy comforts and delusions than challenge ourselves.

[@Zuchiniii]

Yes and if inclusion is a big part of your agenda, excluding a big portion of people is hypocritical and not a clever thing to do for your party

[@doomguy4945]

@@Zuchiniii I still find it hilarious that the party of inclusion and understanding immediately blamed blacks, hispanics, and men overall for the election. They aren't even trying to ask these voters *why* they decided to vote for the other party.

[@MeB-ko6ov]

@@Zuchiniii its exclusionary by design

[@doomguy4945]

@@Zuchiniii They don't actually care about diversity -- look at how quickly they blamed minorities after they lost.

[@neocores]

i think people need to treat everyone with empathy by default even if you dont 'get' what theyre going through. people are not inherently bad and everyone has their struggles that you dont even know about, its silly to assume otherwise. treating people as if they are inherently bad is a surefire way to ensure that those people get preyed upon by actually evil people who know how to manipulate their hurt and turn them against others.

[@TheAxeaman]

Who treats people like they're inherently bad?

[@wholetyouinhere]

I like how the default position for so many people is always "you need to temper your cruelty towards men/whites because the worst thing that could ever possibly happen is men/whites developing a defensive identity politics to counteract your cruelty". Isn't the cruelty itself a bad thing? Shouldn't the cruelty be avoided because it's cruel and not just because it might result in long-term political or cultural losses? You're so immersed in the leftist empathy void that you can't even see it.

[@neocores]

@@TheAxeaman a lot of people treat various groups as if being a part of that group = youre bad. eg some people treat women as evil bitches and then are shocked when those women are angry about that.

[@TheAxeaman]

@@neocores I agree.

[@iamme625]

@@TheAxeaman Conservatives treat trans people and other minorities like they're bad. That's why they spend so much time trying to erase them from the public sphere.

[@sethkarma2072]

Not only are they told that their problems aren't important many of them are told that they will grow up to be the cause of other peoples problems which instills a sense of despondency. I'm sure everyone knows how frustrating it is to be blamed for something you didn't do.

[@DictatorDoPa]

"grow up to be the cause of other people's problems"

[@sethkarma2072]

@@DictatorDoPa What I mean by it is essentially if young people are being fed the idea the men are the cause of all these problems that means eventually that blame will be directed at you once your older. I see my yonger brother going through this as he recently turned 21 now hes being perceived as a man has all the baggage that comes with the publics current perception of men placed on him.

[@centerfield6339]

JSH is also saying their problems aren't important. He's saying they're wrong to think of them as problems.

[@DictatorDoPa]

@@sethkarma2072 That's true.

[@DictatorDoPa]

@@longdong8575 It's not supposed to make sense. They're dehumanizing you because they resent your Individualism.

[@drewpickle8916]

This is such a bizarre way of saying people gravitate towards people who understand them and invalidating the existence of young men makes young men mad and young men are the strongest and most influential demographic in most modern countries and it never goes well when a lot of young men feel disenfranchised especially when it is a political power doing the disenfranchising

[@DeDeDarth]

We will get back to the game "Don't believe his lies"

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

"DON'T LISTEN TO ONDORE'S LIES."

Can't believe I actually understood this reference. I feel so old and wise somehow.

[@71775926]

Remember Sammy Jankis

[@staomruel]

What made the Civil Rights movement with Dr. King so powerful was framing their demands for progress from the perspective of the worker. Progressives need to find a similar approach for today.

[@dragonriderabens9761]

"young men have no problems in their life" That is some high-level, class A, deluxe bullshit, and it pisses me off whenever people say it that is just objectively false, and anyone who genuinely believes that that has revealed themselves to be not worth listening to there being people with far worse problems is true but young men are NOT immune to having some VERY serious issues in their lives. hell, young men could be part of the people who you normally think of when you mention those "far worse issues." in fact, there's a pretty serious issue with them being depressed, and bullshit takes like that do nothing but make it worse. young men are just as capable of suffering from issues that DO matter in the grand scheme of things as everyone else young men ARE capable of being victims of abuse (if anything, a young man who is an abuse victim trying to get to safety and get help is far, FAR harder than a young woman, because young men don't have nearly the same level of resources. hell, men in general struggle here) they are capable of being homeless they struggling to find jobs just as much as any other young adult god, that shit pisses me off to no end left or right isn't where the problems are. it's when you go extreme where problems start, and it doesn't matter if it's far right or alt left, it's just as bad either way

[@raifthemad]

It has lots to do with humans evolved ingroup bias towards our females, neither gender feels any towards our males. A useful trait 450k years ago, when there were about 100k humans on the whole planet and every female was precious to the tirbe. Now there are billions of them and this is a huge thorn on the side of any kind of equality movement.

[@wafflingmean4477]

My mum abused me and my siblings but during the divorce my dad was forced to give up literally every asset he ever owned and completely restart financially just to retain equal custody. The legal system did not protect us from our abuser. Me and my brother are mentally broken. For life (my sister too). We function day to day, but we are barely sane. Barely. Because society doesn't want to accept that just because women suffer more (they do, unquestionably) DOES NOT mean that young men can't suffer. I am 100% on the left politically and I've been facepalming hard for years now at how hellbent the left is on alienating people who also need their help.

[@raifthemad]

@@wafflingmean4477 Look to my post above yours to understand why you believe, that women suffer more. I doubt there has been any actual research on the subject, so the statement is utterly unfounded.

[@mEmory______]

'Extreme' is just an arbitrary category at this point. It means nothing and takes away from the fact that a majority of our problems are caused by those we consider 'moderate' whatever tf that means.

[@socklips7655]

@@wafflingmean4477 "Unquestionably".....Women are exempt from any responsibility NOR accountabilty for anything they do. They're so obscenely insulated in society unlike men, the entire gov't machination throws itself into subsidizing women. Women have their way paved while men are told to "pull themselves up" and are seen as useless unless they are wildly successful. Just because the rebranded marxism that morphed into wahmenism has brainwashed you into believing their BS, doesn't make it truth

[@TreeWiseBig]

Online discourse regarding anything tends to be reductive. This group mentality permeates through all of the discussions I come across. Nuance and expertise are sidelined for broad statements or overarching narratives. In the end, no political discourse solves anything. In fact, it seems like solutions are actively put down by presumed "facts" inferred from emotionally charged perspectives. I would claim, as a Turkish left-leaning person, I am a bit unaccustomed to the political realities of the USA for the citizens of it, yet I can easily draw parallels with the political discourse happening in Turkey. At some point they begin to blurr together. The differences in discourse can be staggering, but the core of the arguments tends to be formed in the same vein: Pointed emotions with no proper research, data, expertise or logic behind it. Tribes formed around those ideas dominate online spaces. To see any real discussion, you need to dig deep, and no person that has already made up their mind on the internet searching for validation is going to do that. In the end, Twitter is not the place to learn political thought. Directions for the places of learning were the best I was able to get from the internet. I still fear that without proper discourse with my peers, how can I tamper and improve my views? The go-to place for the political outlook is a rotten carcass constantly cannibalized by opportunistic flies to lay eggs and hatch maggots to perpetuate more of the same. Not only is this dangerous, it also hinders any blossoming thought that makes it way to it and polarizes it. A discussion violated and hijacked, endlessly bound to the internet. Any other purpose it once may have held is replaced with animosity.

[@Axterix13]

I think part of it too is that brevity rules, yet political stuff is usually complex. A position often has pros and cons, and there's often a lot of middle ground between. But that takes a lot of words to get across. And people don't want to spend time reading lots of text. It's why the NRA is so hardline in regards to gun control in the US. It is easy to get people to stand on one side or the other of "gun control is hitting what you're aiming at" vs "no guns", but it is much harder to come to a consensus when you ask people where to draw the line somewhere in the middle. And you see the same thing in other things as well. "With us or against us!" is an easy platform.

[@sigzil1985]

I'm in the UK, educated about 25 years ago, and I spent ages learning about the kings between 1066 and like 1700 but we totally skipped over any kind of foreign policy. Almost as if it was completely deliberate.

[@gbjbaanb]

it is - modern foreign policy will have changed dramatically by the time you left school. One political party would be replaced by another and the world would have changed. The foreign policy of even the early 2000s is already obsolete and only interesting to historians.

[@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet]

​@@gbjbaanbforeign policy is a euphemism for colonialism here.

[@g3intel]

​@@gbjbaanb... except the lingering impact of said foreign policy, the way institutions culturally orient around their function and then reproduce that orientation in their behavior later, the literal physical results and how they then shape the culture which produces them (a LOT of American domestic policy is developed out of the legacy of Vietnam, for example) is fundamental to in any way understanding said modern foreign policy...? Nothing happens in a vacuum

[@outlaw451]

Its funny because in the states we do go over the bad things we've done but it get totally overshadowed by patriotism, or at least it did. But the history of the USA is much shorter than anywhere in Europe.

[@Sleepvertical]

As a current professor who teaches students who have just entered the college system for the first time... You are absolutely correct. And it is getting harder and harder to not only teach in the age of Ai but to get a student to care about learning.

[@Meow_Tse-Tung]

I think center and center-left political parties not addressing the needs of the people is more of a problem than a small percentage of loud leftists telling men they're bad. We shouldn't be catering to a specific demographic of people when our own politicians couldn't care less about _all_ of us, which their policies reflect. Fixing messaging this way is better than what consultants are suggesting, which is moving further right, but neither way is attacking the real problem.

[@justinland1208]

Very true, actually reminds me of the Norm Macdonald 'Its the hypocrisy that's the worst part" joke.

[@DR3ADER1]

Which is why you must ABANDON THEM! There's a good reason why you abandon cults. They prohibit progress and critical thinking by design.

[@Kryptnyt]

The Democratic Party hasn't been interested in offering a popular candidate, or letting the american people choose nominees in any case. You know that Bernie was tremendously popular and then they pushed Hillary. They've been suppressing democracy in this way and suffering for it. In four years, they will not be able to lean on the campaign message of how bad Orange Man was during that four years. I think we'll finally see some fresh people show up from both parties, and I'm optimistic for that. We've had enough of the presidents that we deserve, we need a president that can inspire all of us to be better.

[@necaacen]

yes, for sure. heres how i view this area of thinking: identity politics is a right wing talking point. they use identity politics to divide the working class who they are waging class warfare against. the left needs to push back against the bigotry of their identity politics in order to protect vulnerable people but we cant forget that is not the actual war we need to be fighting, that is the distraction they are using to hide what is happening in the world of economics which is what actually matters. in the world of economics there is no hard left power, in the usa there is centre right vs hard right economics and in the uk there is centre vs right. this is why the 'left' is losing elections, not because of a witch hunt on twitter, theyre losing it because the democrats and labour have been taken over by centre/centre right politicians who are not offering actual democractic socialism that works for the working and middle class.

[@elk3407]

I think the irony of the small percentage telling men they are bad is that they don't even understand the leftist theory. Patriarchy isn't "men bad", it's the patriarchs that are bad. The average man is just a body to be broken in the wars and factories owned by the patriarchs, while being told that they could become a patriarch too if they work hard enough (they won't), and women have it even worse because they only exist to give birth to men to keep throwing bodies at the machine. This is the actual idea of patriarchy. It's always the people in power, not some original sin of being the wrong gender.

[@MancPeteYT]

"Anyone who capable of getting themselves into a position of power should on no account be allowed to do the job", was a Douglas Adams quote, from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. And rings true to this very day, haha.

[@Supernova094]

as a non-western hearing " lucky enough to be raised by 2 parents " is the saddest thing i've heard in awhile.

[@JeyKalda]

Isn't that a world-wide problem though ? Or am I just misunderstanding your comment ?

[@Supernova094]

@@JeyKalda Nah not a world wide problem , I dont know anyone with step parents or raised by 1 parent all my life, rare to see something like that here.

[@lanttu10]

@@JeyKalda In most of the world families are a lot tighter together and divorces aren't really a thing. A side effect of allowing divorce easily is that people would rather end a relationship than work through the problems.

[@_PinkiePie.]

@@lanttu10 Moreso a side effect of marriage being allowed easily and having extraordinarily young minimum ages for it. Divorce is not easy and not cheap, at least in the states

[@Arakus99]

@@lanttu10 another side effect is people staying in relationships that are horrible for them or even abusive because of social pressure

[@A_Wild_Dyzzy]

For those more interested in Josh’s thoughts on schooling. I’d reccomend looking up Sir Ken Robinson. Author and education worker that did a lot of work to support education nurturing creativity and the passion to learn. Also in understanding how different kids learn. He wrote a book called “The Element” and it’s quite good! Props, Josh! I appreciate your perspective and I’m glad you took the time to share it! Sincerely, A US citizen that feels the same way about their own schooling system.

[@dgarrard100]

Trying to be sympathetic to men's issues while comparing them to children throwing a temper tantrum is an interesting strategy. Sad that it's still genuinely​ better than the hard left, who don't even give what little concession Josh does (that men's problems matter to them).

[@Yotrymp]

He's still stuck in trying to fit social norms, which are very wrong at the moment

[@Lastofthefreenames]

I dont like the analogy at 4:06, comparing my problems to that to a child. You are still infantilizing men that way.

[@Fade2GrayOG]

'Shut up and sit down' may not be the best voter outreach strategy.

[@happymate8943]

For the record, if you guys haven't seen the recent daily show the Dems or people that were supposed to be left have been advertising and becoming more right leaning. They were for more strict border policies, anti-trans , and more in the side of Israel. The thing about the parties is that people who registered in the party don't mean they're going to be conservative or progressive. Many minorities have had conservative beliefs for years .

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

That _would_ matter... if voting did.

[@irving_a3445]

But it IS one of the best board game review channels I know.

[@NauticalOnion]

@@irving_a3445 my man

[@LifeForAiur]

I think all it takes is one hard look on statistics regarding depression and suicide to see the genuine real problems young men face. Sure, we can always find more serious issues but you can say that about anything. Yet it seems hypocritical, to emphasize microaggressions and tone-police discourse, because that can essentially be handled the same way: by ignoring and stating that there are bigger problems. When there's this double standard, it is of no surprise young men feel that they are not wanted. Every conversation about them is with a heavy hand, perpetually telling them to reflect on the consequences of history, as if their existence had anything to do with that. I think a lot of the extreme left that have these positions are essentially morally justifying their intolerance and hatred towards men (because sometimes it genuinely is hatred) through mental gymnastics regarding ideology. The unfortunate consequence: further radicalization of both groups.

[@crusaderpenguin5326]

Very well said. I agree with Josh's broader point here but saying that they still aren't issues in the grand scheme of things is still part of the problem. Men's issues matter just as much.

[@ronmastrio2798]

An ideology which ascribes collective guilt to certain groups while avoiding it for all others will only result in that group rightfully feeling as though they are being discriminated against and radicalise them. The incoherence and outright evil of progressive ideology has made this.

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

"Sure, we can always find more serious issues-" This right here is the main problem. "More serious issues" is nonsense. It is a lie. A man who has never experienced real hardship or pain, and a man who has seen endless death and destruction, can both be miserable. At the end of the day, when they are pondering their lives, they will fall back on the same existential dread most suffer from. Their lives can feel equally terrifying and volatile. I've seen plenty of tragedy and hardship in my life, but when I think back to when I was a kid, things didn't feel much different. Life was just as scary, my problems felt just as real. Because at the end of the day, the idea of life and death and existence can be just as traumatizing as anything you'll suffer later in life.

[@iller3]

Young Men feeling like they have no purplose and dropping out of the work force IS one one the biggest worries we all should have because a country is only as economically healthy as it's Staple producing Industries can support it to be. All the GDP numbers we see quoted are based off Asset-Market speculation, IE: NONE OF ITS REAL.

[@GoobleGaming]

"You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.” ― Jonathan Swift

[@michaelharder3055]

While center left is a cozy little place where you don't have to take responsibility for anything.

[@mnmnrt]

There isn't any such thing as "the grand scheme of things". If a problem matters to someone, it matters. Period.

[@treeaboo]

I'll have you know my Grand Scheme of Things is coming together nicely, if it's no problem to you.

[@DR3ADER1]

Incorrect, especially when said person/someone fails to address them properly. The fact is that NOTHING MATTERS, full stop. Everyone has issues. What's relevant is how they DEAL WITH THEM.

[@mnmnrt]

@DR3ADER1 Wrong.

[@DR3ADER1]

@@mnmnrt Explain. Because Nihilism has proven this to be correct.

[@mnmnrt]

@@DR3ADER1 Nihilism is a philosophical position. It is not a proof, and has not provided any proof. Of anything.

[@LinusVinnportlaced]

It's so easy to crap on poc and women in games, for views. Thank you for not giving in, and doing that. I'm sure I'm not the only black woman who loves your channels

[@SwenBoxum]

10:13 -11:03 I am crying. This was the brick wall I ran into after middle school. I made it through high school, but when I entered college I found out (or rather, got to prove what I already suspected) that despite having fairly high qualifications, I had no actual base to build on and no real clue what I was doing. I collapsed hard and eventually fell out of school. I tried a few more times but once I had been violently thrown out of that hamster-wheel, I could not get back in, I ended up completely burned out. I got lucky in the sense that I met some mental-health people who got me and what I ran into and were/are helping me find my own way through this. I've had to do a lot of my growth over again, or much later than could have been. That said, damage was done during a very important time in my development that I doubt will ever go fully away. I have the additional fact that I am Autistic and have ADD (not ADHD), but I don't think that means the issues I faced are unique to me. Autistic people are sometimes compared to canaries in a coal-mine: there's a problem there that's affecting everyone, they are just the first to fall over. Anyway, I could go on about this specific issue forever, but I just want to say how nice it was to hear it from someone "in the wild". From a teacher no less :)

[@stonemichacross]

4:40 Delegitimizing and Minimalizing peoples genuine challenges in life while pretending to have empathy for them is certainly a leftist take ill give him that.

[@LevantineR1]

It's like he genuinely can't help it.

[@tintillor]

Honestly, why would anyone care about the global issues when they are unhappy with their own issues? People aren't saints. You can't ask them to be care about something that's not related to them when they have problems of their own. To a big scale, their problems might not matter but, to them, they are the only problems that matter, and you can't judge them for that, because they are right. We are not a collective (no matter how much the left might want that to be true) so you can't expect people to be selfless and become martyrs to a cause (though some might be willing to do that on their own).

[@Bustermachine]

To be fair, often times, global issues do effect local issues. We live in a globalized world. Consequences like a poor tsunami response in Malaysia can drive up hard drive prices. A war in Ukraine causes energy prices in the first world and grain prices in the third world to go up, and the long term consequences are potentially handing these resources over to a rival power with the means to interfere in our ives. But it's the responsibility of politicians to actually concisely explain why global policy issue is important locally. (To be equally fair, they often do and people just don't listen) So . . . I got nothin.

[@darklelouchg8505]

@@Bustermachine Put your own house in order before attempting it elsewhere. Simple as.

[@histhoryk2648]

-Egyptians -Greeks and Romans -Battle of Hastings 1066 -World War I The education system literally skipped the best part of "Savages, Savages" For the Queen and the Kingdom we're taking over the world

[@lordciasteczkor6066]

How can You even do that? That's the lion's share of British history. What abou Napoleon and Trafalgar? I thought the rise of The Royal Navy should be a point of great national pride. I am absolutely shocked.

[@MoreBrainz]

In my American history education we spent maybe a week on WWI and like 2 months on WWII the teacher I had was great but he had to teach what the district put in place and it was terrible I love history and learned so much from KZbin that literally put my schooling to shame

[@lordciasteczkor6066]

it's natural to gloss over certain parts. Education system aim to teach the history from their people's perspective, which is fair. Here in Poland we learned almost nothing of African or Asian history, which is a shame, yes but an understendable one in my opinion. What I don't get is how You can skip over Brotish Empire in the UK. It's almost 500 years for crying out loud. Imagine if for America it was: first settlements, War of Independance, nothing, not even Civil War, and then WWII. It's madness.

[@iansanford6544]

Did anyone tell him yet, the Queen's been dead a bit, bud

[@mikester4896]

@@lordciasteczkor6066 I think the reason for skipping the British Empire in schools is mainly due to the atrocities and horrors that were inflicted on the countries we colonised to keep the illusion that the British Empire was great when in actuality it was a terror on the people who we happened to encounter.

[@SubzeroBlack68]

I disagree with the individual young mans problems being insignificant in the Grand scheme of things. Because half the population are or were young Men. If you help individual young men, you are helping all the individual young men get to a better place. Thats half the population. If every young man decides to focus on bettering their local community instead of the "Grand scheme of things". They would literally improve the grand world problems.

[@GhostAeonWolf]

i Mean ... Josh... telling young men, that "not having enough money to afford living is meaningless problem" does not feel like a trivial problem to me.

[@Daruffy]

@@GhostAeonWolf and how is the right going to fix that?

[@alpha-0874]

It's very easy to sit on opinions such as his when you have enough money to be insulated from problems such as feeding yourself or your family.

[@Onii-chan899]

​@@DaruffyThey at least don't blame them for all the worlds problems like the left does

[@Daruffy]

@Onii-chan899 what policy does the far right have that actually practically benefit young men?

[@Onii-chan899]

@@Daruffy you're missing the point, the left doesn't even bother trying to appeal to young men and actively hates them

[@WolfHreda]

0:15 Joke's on you, Josh, I'm an avid H.P. Lovecraft fan. Screaming into the void is one of the main things I've got. And the absolute dearth of likes on my tweets proves that the void is indeed vast and uncaring. 😂

[@brotherbrad1617]

Are we the same. I really would love for them to respond.

[@MageSkeleton]

The words i had been searching for, to form the cohesive sentence that i would find myself repeating and repeating as i keep finding myself in such situation where no other words work; 3:03 "it's easier to trick someone, than it is to convince someone they have been tricked."

[@purpleglitch2524]

The "situation is crazy" situation is crazy.

[@VinceMouse]

I would settle for the middle ground of 'we'll do what we can, but there are a lot of problems in the world'. At the very least acknowledging that our problems ARE problems, and that we can't help anyone else if our lives are in (relative) shambles, would be nice.

[@iamme625]

Turning to the side that doesn't want to do anything about anyone's problems just because you're not the target demographic that's being coddled right now is pretty wild though.

[@VinceMouse]

@iamme625 Nothing is better than outright hatred and disgust.

[@Victoor2951]

As someone who leans left, I agree with what you said, especially schools. The fact it suppose to teach us, socialize us, and instil "learning is fun", all I learned Is I'm the socially slow and the fall behind black sheep and learning is suffering and not worth living for. Thankfully my life got saved by my last teacher who could tell something was wrong. But these damages still exist even after turning 23

[@bobjones6154]

I think the problem I have with this is that josh is blaming other very powerless people for problems that don't really compare to the problems caused by the people in power. I'm a member of the "far" left, we are the most powerless people in modern western politics and I take umbrage with being blamed for problems I myself am not causing nor responsible for. My point is this; it is easy to blame the "radical left" (something that I believe is so small and insignificant to basically not be statistically relevant) for problems caused by the people in power. It is not the rad lefts fault that young boys didn't and don't vote for left wing political parties, it is the political parties fault for not selling those boys something worth voting for or supporting. This is because modern left wing political parties aren't really left at all, they're centre right at best. They offer nothing for young men or young women. Remember that there are young boys in the far left too, they also get nothing out of supporting these parties, just the continuance of the status quo which we all know is crap. Don't blame the left, don't blame the powerless, blame those in power. We lefties are powerless, we truly are, the reason people think we have power is bcos the cynical actors on the right (and in centre left parties) are blaming us for their own mistakes and for their own gain. Don't fall for their BS.

[@Keppymam]

1:52 As someone on the center right, I feel your pain.

[@chasearnold6254]

As a kid, I was playing a 3 person warhammer fantasy game spanning multiple days and large armies (2000pt+), and my mom got angry and did a “Gork’s Warpath” stompin on them all. I still think about it to this day. Don’t discount how much things can matter to a young person.

[@tatuvarvemaa5314]

I dont personally like comparing peoples blights, I think it is a fundamentally flawed way to think. This fact can be seen when it comes to people who suffer from self-h**m or s**cide, to some things seem like ”its no big deal” untill that person is no longer there or something happens to them, then it suddenly turns out it was. It would be better, to instead of placing people into comparison and saying ”ok you get to have support while all of you other people need to deal with it, its not so bad get over it”, it would be better to openly discuss those things and evaluate them as equals and try to help people with their problems and pressing issues as much as possible.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

It's just amazing to me how the extreme left will shout to not be bigoted then proceed to label 75 million voters as Literally Hitler because a good chunk of them voted based on their personal problems potentially being fixed. Almost like those people are not at all progressive and just want someone to scream at to ignore their own problems.

[@OneTimeACraft]

the crazy is Josh situation Hayes Strife. Ye man.

[@Sevness]

Josh says "This may come as a shock to some of you, I am probably kind of Center-Left when it comes to the political spectrum" What the far/hardcore left hears: "So you are a right wing shill, got it."

[@Injemoedersehuis]

I hated going to school. I always felt like I wasn't learning anything. If the subject was interesting to me I'd do research afterwards at home and add that information in answers on tests. I only remember 1 'teacher' who appreciated this. Needless to say I never got far in school as remembering stuff is boring and I suck at 'learning' that way.

[@thesuperginge1348]

That was my experience of Primary school, and then going to Secondary school was just non-stop bullying and building a strong base of trauma that would affect me for the next 20+ years. School was the worst time of my life

[@JDogtheAutisticGiant]

The thing a lot of people (especially teachers tbh) seem to gloss over with the education issue is some kids genuinely don't give a fuck about learning. You could be the best teacher alive and they still wouldn't listen to you. Some people are just shits.

[@kahunab7400]

The 'men have no problem' part is not the hard left. It's the Hillary faction.

[@adriadelafuente3648]

"Men, you're being fooled by people who are pretending to be your friends , you should go with the side that explicitly tells you how much it hates you" Yeah, you're not convincing anyone. Anyone who already agrees, already agrees, and you don't make a good case for the ones who disagree.

[@matt28391]

I'm a man on the left and noone is telling me how much they explicitly hate me for being a man. If you feel like those people are referring to you when they say these things, maybe you should ask yourself why?

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

@@matt28391 You don't get around much. Misandry is institutional.

[@kylegonewild]

@@BloodwyrmWildheart "Misandry is institutional" so by whatever metric you're saying this you would also agree misogyny is institutional, correct? Because there is no real world circumstance where the first is true but not the second.

[@matt28391]

@@BloodwyrmWildheart Maybe read what I said and reflect on it instead of instantly asserting that I’m wrong?

[@samforrt2898]

@@kylegonewild Dehumanization is institutional.

[@sik3xploit]

"Who radicalized you?" _"You did"_

[@dartimosthatsit6001]

Thanks for this. Problems are relative and those that marginalize others' problems based on immutable traits are evil.

[@patnev9296]

Honestly, I agree this is an aspect but do think you are downplaying the issues for men and boys. I'm not saying they are the worst things but I also disagree they aren't important and purely people take advantage of issues as you have implied here. This, in my opinion, is a huge part of why young boys and men are moving more "right". They don't need you to say "your problems are the worst." They just want them to acknowledge that their problems are issues that could do with looking at.

[@Yakri]

This is kind of a weird take to have on the same platform with the most successful extremist leftist, who's also one of the only positive voices for young men in politics at all. And you bring up the way people bashed Bernie Sanders supporters when Hillary lost.... But those people were centrists and people on the center-right, because they're the Clinton supporters and the Bernie bros and the far left are literally the same people. Like this whole young men toxic and bad angle is absolutely a mainstream liberal take as much as it's a real thing and not right wing propoganda at all. Even if that wasn't the case, am I supposed to just ignore all the influential people on the extreme left, almost all of which are men, and virtually all of which take the angle approaching people in general, and especially groups like young men in rural areas, with substantially more empathy than is forthcoming from the US political center? (which is largely the same as the UK on that axis). Like who is the far left supposed to be if you can't point to anyone successful left of the democratic party for this, let alone some large minority or even a majority group here.

[@Evanz111]

Kudos to you for being able to articulate your stance. Stuff like free school meals and the safety net play a big factor, but we have to think beyond our own circumstances. It’s kinda made me afraid to speak out about my own political stance.

[@npcragdolls]

this is crazy

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

Good, I was hoping I wasn't clickbaited. But now I can be assured that this is, indeed, crazy.

[@AzureGreatheart]

As a US Citizen with a love of history, I have no idea what the fuck the "Pony Express" was.

[@Billybobjoe]

It's like Panda Express for horse meat

[@LevantineR1]

The only place I've seen mention of it is in older Warner Brothers cartoons that take place in the old west.

[@michaelblosenhauer9887]

You must not be a US citizen or love history then

[@fuzzypanda2804]

Collectivism ignores the individual. A problem that causes you to be depressed matters, it may not matter to someone who doesn't know you, but it does matter. It may not be world ending, but depression is very much self ending. That's why I'm a libertarian, my own actions reflect my own consequences. No one is going to lift me up, or help or support me, I have to do it myself. If the collective abandons you, then screw the collective, I matter just as much as someone across the world in some other place. Both sides aren't wrong, but their not right either.

[@tacitus6384]

If you don't think listening to young men and their problems matter, well there's someone who did: Donald Trump. And howd that work out for you?

[@Max-cm5pp]

Most things in life on an individual level, don’t matter all that much, it’s true. However, anyone being told repeatedly that they don’t have real struggles, that they don’t get to have an opinion on something, that by nature of their race and gender they’ve wronged someone else, that person is at minimum going to get defensive if they have any self respect at all. Meanwhile, while being told that stuff over and over, the same people are told that microaggressions -literally small petty things that don’t matter much- are literally violence. How can that not be incredibly frustrating?

[@Kreiger19]

As a current teacher in the US (MA specifically, #1 in ed in the country), a lot of our practicum and professional development is focused on helping students develop that love of learning and helping them engage actively in the classroom. The biggest struggle we're facing right now is that a lot of *parents* don't buy into the value of education because that love of learning wasn't taught as much in the past, so for students who don't buy in right away, it's harder to get that support from home.

[@kethmarhkfy7luf.263]

#1? That is not representative of the norm. It is the extreme outlier. Your anecdotal experience holds no value to generalizations.

[@Kreiger19]

Did you read my whole comment? I wasn't generalizing about the entirety of US education. I was expanding on one of his points within my specific context. Regardless, an outlier can still be representative of what good practice can look like. MA as a state didn't get where it is with education because of a statistical anomaly. It got where it is because of hard policy work, funding, and training for educators. Saying "that's an outlier so it doesn't matter" is like saying that the team that won the Superbowl isn't representative of what every team can achieve if they plan well, train, and make good decisions. Even within MA, there are still some districts that do worse than the state averages for some US states in the bottom half, and those are places that we as educators and policymakers are trying to learn how to do better.

[@Vequis_UK]

Yea its true about Schools, I did a lot more learning since leaving School and enjoyed it a lot more. Don't get me wrong, certain teachers did a really good job and made the subject interesting and easier to learn than others, its really not easy to do that in my experience. Think I have had 2-3 teachers who were at that level. But yea generally speaking Schools are pretty poor.

[@erock.steady]

you are correct - we're not taught how to read, we're told what to read... not taught how to walk, we're told where to go... not taught how to be, we're told what to be. i've been shedding that light on dark corners for decades.

[@DeepCognition-iu5bv]

You're not talking about the extreme left at the start of this video. You're talking about liberals. Us extreme leftists are not much interested in empty moralizing, but rather material conditions. A simple trick to distinguish liberals from leftists is by checking whether the logic they present leads inevitably to every industry becoming a cooperative.

[@SatanicBarbeque]

When you scream into the void, the void tells you that you're wrong and that you should stop talking, because you suck, and you don't deserve love. The void wonders why you haven't sudoku'd yourself yet. The void thinks you're selfish for waiting so long. The void continues screaming long after you go silent.

[@harku123]

As someone who works in small politics it's crazy to think I had to stumble upon a video from a gaming channel to explain so well why populists are gaining so much clout in the modern internet age. You've always been really good at explaining things and I think you said you used to be a teacher right? You definitely make a great teacher with how well you can explain something

[@Einygmar]

This video is a great example of why socialist/left-wing way of thinking eventually makes them lose the support of the majority in favor of the more populist candidates. This perception that problems of one group are more important than the other is a direct reflection of the socialist desire to equalize outcomes. The problem is that while in less developed countries a lot of people have relatively serious problems, in more developed countries these problems may affect a very small population. And in a democracy, telling the majority of your voters to care about someone else's problems while belittling their own issues is not a very rational strategy.

[@WillyShankspeare]

A problem here is that very often, people don't actually know what the "hard left" is actually saying, they just hear what the Liberal and Conservative media allows them to hear.

[@user-zj7zw9fg7v]

Talking about big problems and small problems, makes me think of a quote from one of the Auschwitz survivors that was something along the lines of "Suffering is like a gas-- it fills us completely". The big takeaway is that comparing who's had it worse is ultimately pointless, because the worst thing someone has experienced is still the worst thing that they've experienced. Dismissing someone's experience because it's unequal to another's seems like a sure way to alienate them.

[@itachillianen]

This video is crazy. Resume of the video: 1 - your problems are irrelevant (you dont need a stable country or economy) 2 - my problems are more relevant than yours, so give me your money so I can fix my problems (you can just print money, you work, I solve my problems, win-win) 3 - European countries do not exist in England history classes (not even TEA? brought in by the Portuguese? Imagine being English and not talk about Tea at school)

[@nicodemous52]

In the US, they go over our past sins in agonizing detail. That's the majority of history class.

[@winterturtle1596]

These are good takes. Also I was taught how to do good research in high school and check sources, but the problem is those same people who learned HOW to find good sources don’t know WHY finding good sources is important so they don’t do it and forget the skill.

[@jesperengelbredt]

In the grand scheme of things NO problem matters. The universe is so vast and we make up such a small part of it that we cant even write it out as a fraction. So if problems are to be judged on that scale, NO problem matters. Not even the worst possible problem that someone can come up with when dismissing the problems of other people. So maybe we should just agree not to compare problems like that?

[@WhoopsieDayZ]

You're 100% right. This is the comment I was looking for, and it should be common sense. Tragedy strikes both rich and poor alike. Even billionaires can suffer. The idea of "privilege" has turned people into morons.

[@ARMSMASH]

I've always been a classicle liberal which today has become a conserative, Really pro family vlaues and leaving other people alone. But schools right now the standard of education has really went down hil in england im 22 and have been though the ringer and had to self teach a lot of stuff. Like most of it. Im anti tax's pro gun. freedom of speech should be absolute unless you say you gonna hit people with your car. The issue is right now is no one is talking about the rampent govament corrution in the west and I belive these exstream lefty social issues are used by the state to distract people from that corrution. In the schools when we where like 6 we where taught some level of critcal thinking but i think thats gone recently.

[@iamme625]

What is 'pro family values'? I feel that gets thrown around a lot and means many different things depending on who is saying it. It's just another buzzword now.