How To Learn EWGF / Electrics ?

[@justApplay]

00:00 Does Reina NEED electrics? 00:23 How to do Electrics? 00:52 EWGF Applications 01:02 Where to start? 01:15 Punishment Drill 01:14 Whiff Punishment Drill 02:14 Final Considerations

[@TristanLaurens]

I'd like to add something that helped me get more consistent at it. Imagine you're pressing 2 when you press d, not d/f. Or actually do it. Just do f,n,d+2,d/f quickly. You'll get d2 more often than not but you'll also get electrics. We usually don't get the electric because we press one button after the other, and 2 is always unconsciously pressed after d/f2. Since you do d,d/f in a quick succession, just conceptualizing that you are pressing 2 during d helps a lot. Tie pressing 2 to pressing d.

[@KFSENSEI]

I will try this with devil jin

[@sophistasquare7804]

This right here has helped me a lot. Just hit 8/10 though so PROGRESS!! Especially being new. Thank you for the tip!

[@elitepowerfucker2965]

Amazing, doing this I managed to hit 1000 EGWF in a row

[@Nakaru]

@@elitepowerfucker2965do u play on console controller if so can u explain exactly what to do

[@Nakaru]

I play on controller and it say forward, neutral, down+right punch, but what u mean by d/f ?

[@Mitsu89]

Another generation learning ewgf. I’m proud 😁

[@mostafaabolila2295]

Its very tough bro,usually doing it in practice mode but when it comes playing online struggling doing it .

[@lichtbach7693]

In time as you do the drills. The inputs will be on autopilot

[@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533]

Yeah im new to Tekken im finally starting to put it to good use in matches though the only one a get consistent rn is the forward neutral and d+f input its easier but not its considered as good as the legit input

[@mostafaabolila2295]

@@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 the electric one is more powerful as it has chip damage on block and it’s effective tool to keep high pressure on your opponent

[@famusp1991]

I’m I the same boat wit ya That shit hard on pad

[@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533]

@mostafaabolila2295 I know I don't think I explained well im mean what's the difference between doing the two different electrics inputs the forward down forward +2 or the forward neutral df+2 electric instead

[@MougliFGC]

Suggesting to lab a move in the context where it will be used is advice more people should give, thanks!

[@Unholy187]

TIP FOR PAD USERS: do not practice only electrics for more than 15 min at a time. Your hand will start to cramp (you probably wont feel this) but you will notice you will stop throwing electrics as consistent.

[@user-vq3qf4sl2q]

I needed to read weeks ago now what can I do? 😂

[@Unholy187]

@user-vq3qf4sl2q lol didn't mean permanently just for awhile

[@JetStream0509]

If you’re on pad, I recommend binding one of the macros that use right punch (like RP + Lk) to left bumper. The timing for the electric is much easier when the timing is controlled by only one hand

[@ali.3834]

i keep doing heat man can i bind it with just 2 ?

[@JetStream0509]

@@ali.3834 sure. Also I i made a mistake in my original post, I mean RP + LK

[@BlueBamboo9]

@@ali.3834 Emphasize the down, down+left. Trust me, aha. I kept doing it as well, but it was because I was doing it faster than normal and, essentially, phantom hitting the inputs -_-

[@ali.3834]

@@BlueBamboo9 yeah dude i got used to it and i activate my heat accidentally much less now.. although i am not fast enough to pull an electric in a real ranked match

[@BlueBamboo9]

@@ali.3834 We'll be learning together, man😤 Just keep labbing, practice on predictable players/characters, and get into it! It's so much fun when you hit a clean one, but then either you forget the punish or you are so shocked you don't even push for the punish😂😂😂😂

[@dougmcleod3413]

Lots of value in this short 2 mins video. I’m gunna watch it multiple times ❤

[@ShirudoBureku]

might be helpful for people to practice getting the timing of the d,df+2 first. you can practice that by doing f,N. you'll have a large window to input d,df+2. if you get an electric then your input is fast enough. if you get regular wgf then you need to be faster. once you can reliable get the electric punch from this you can add in doing the full thing with f,n,d,df+2.

[@plaguesnstuff7657]

This is something I've used and is probably a bit advantage of keyboards but you can bind right and left to two keys in the options. If you play on keyboard and struggle with ewgf I'd recommend putting directional keys near your 2 input that way you can hit the f2 part of the df2 with one hand making it much easier.

[@njoguszn]

WHERE CAN I DO THIS?

[@UmbrellaSound]

You can do the same on a pad as well, just using bumper buttons as well. As for the keyboard doing electric on it is easy enough already imo

[@steel_azul2508]

Can’t stress enough a little bit goes a long way. I’ve been practicing just doing the electrics as a warmup before matches. Just a couple of minutes at a time each time I load up the game. At first it didn’t make much of a difference in game as I’d try to throw out electrics and would just get the regular fist. The important thing for me is I didn’t beat myself up for not getting the electric. I’m at red ranks so thankfully I don’t get punished really at all for missing the electric. If I can hit my opponent it accomplishes the same goal. But in continuing to work on it in practice and applying that practice to real games I’ve started noticing a lot more sparks flying around in my games. I’m not consistent and can’t do it on command, but I am starting to feel when I’ll hit it and when I won’t if that makes sense. Progress lol

[@ImActuallyGood_]

Tip I play kaz and play on the right as I think it’s easier for Mishima players to be on it’s a very simple just frame input (forward/then push both down and foward as your pushing triangle or Y)

[@mrvictorsilva]

Graças ao seu vídeo eu consegui aprender o EWGF e o EWHF do Jin. Ainda preciso de mais prática porque de 10 tentativas, só 2 sai elétrico mas seu video me ajudou muito a dominar melhor os Mishimas! ❤

[@NNA1U3]

Also if you do dash into wind god stance and delay the electric uppercut you can gain some distance and tracking properties

[@Scorptice]

I am reliably 1 frame off means practice shows me a df input for 1 frame before the df+2. feels like I am hitting a wall in my brain to thumb connections (playing on xbox controller)

[@JKayde]

I started pressing 2 way before I would ever need to and then started to delay it until it hit the right frame. Was kinda backwards but it helped me more than trying to press the button faster.

[@bilbo_gamez6195]

Bro I was punishing things at -18 and up and was like how tf am I going to do -15 and hadn't even attempted it... I PUNISHED -16 TODAY FIRST TRY!!! Thank u for giving me the idea to punish to speed up my inputs. My thumb hurts like hell though I'm going to work on the rest of reinas kit for a couple of days 😂😂😂

[@Supersmallpig]

After I watched the whole video I understand one thing ------just give up 😂🎉

[@Retro_WrathX13B]

Can do it about 80-90% of the time, even in 200ms games. Just squeezing out every drop of tech I can

[@SaucyJack117]

Thanks again for this. I was curious how to simulate the uses of EWGF during practice so the drills are super useful.

[@yoshitsune5691]

For pad users find a pad, that’s sensitive af, soo u don’t have to press it hard, and strain yourself practicing it. Because my thumb only hurts because I was going to hard on the pad. It’s about finesse not strength.

[@danteakiu4672]

One thing I wanna point out I learned this so Reina’s wave dash she doesn’t have to go Down you can just do foward and downward

[@danteakiu4672]

But you still have to hit 2 on the same frame as downforward

[@ll9595]

You sir, are a savage animal! Love your videos

[@HiBEARnationX]

That Yuna custom though 😍

[@idm811]

Thank you for the video

[@mj_out]

Nice editing.

[@boredaura1064]

I can only consistently electric with my hand fully wrapped since that’s how I learned it in t7

[@JetStream0509]

2:45 I feel this a lot, and it’s why I’m trying to switch over to keyboard. I’m worse at it right now but I have more time to get better if I’m not fucking up my left thumb

[@kamilnowak4329]

Hurting your hands due to practising electrics is the true tekken experience

[@alexuvar1]

Wait, but if you set practice mode to "Defense" and make them do unsafe moves, you will land a WGF regardless of whether you actually did punish in time because they don't block in this mode. What you need is the dedicated punishment training thing where you can be certain that you landed a correct punish

[@justApplay]

You can check if the "Punish" icon in the Attack Data popup lights up. Also, you can record the bot to walk back right after the attack, this way it will block if your punish is too late.

[@alexuvar1]

@@justApplay I see, thanks!

[@SaijanZeo]

How I did it, I practised WGF over and over. Eventually I started pressing 2 early, before hitting d d+f. I was getting it down 8 out of 10 consecutively

[@Polandball1138]

Hi guys i just found out that you dont even need to do the down imput, F N (DF+2) works just fine

[@justApplay]

Yes, that's called the PEWGF input. However, this one can't be done right after dashing, so it limits its uses. Still a good idea to get used to the normal input, imo.

[@junjun8855]

"and also have a lot of fun with her" 😏😏😏

[@ikercardaensland8251]

I'm actually here for EWHF

[@Remirured]

you should mention the difference between her pewgf and her normal ewgf and the uses if you go over electrics.

[@Firelord_Ozen]

I just reached Garyu (15th Dan) without hardly ever hitting my bread and butter EWGF Combo (75-79 Damage). It's hard for me to confirm hit it in A Ranked game, but I haven't needed it to win most of my games so far since my Neutral Game is pretty stellar for my Rank and my wall pressure is insane. I can do it easily in practice but I feel like I never get openings to use it in actual matches unless I try to fish for it (which causes me to lose more fishing for it) . And I'm probably not launching stuff I should be launching (which is primarily my problem and how I WANT to be utilizing the EWGF) Maybe I'll stick to basic launches like DF2 into an EWGF instead of trying to hit (2) EWGF in a row.

[@user-yr4tk9vs7z]

I am doing practice a lot and have no problem to do even PEWGF, I do it more often than usual electric but have problems to do it in 13 frames. With 1 frame difference between f and df2. In 90% of ocasions I do it with 2 frame interval

[@TheSavageSaiyan]

Crazy how often I've been hearing how this hurts your hand after the fact I already hurt mine 😅 lol

[@NekroplSub]

Came here because I thought this would teach how to train so that the electrics turn out more consistently, but the video is still good. So how to get more stable electrics more efficiently? I've only been playing since the T8 release on Rain, but I'm new to the series and have only been playing seriously since that part.

[@mrlazy2343]

I retired from EWGF it's just impossible in normal form but you can do it when you're on devil form kazuya

[@StaunchKillah]

What do you guys think are the most common moves in T8 rn to practice EWGF punishes on?

[@justApplay]

Good questions. I think Asuka's f+2 (-18) is a good one. The Mishima's 1,1,2 (-17)... King's Atla's d+1+2 also very punishable and with pushback and Ling's backturned 4 (-18)

[@tikstiks7037]

nice homage to the heihachi tekken 3 drip. was that done without mods?

[@justApplay]

Yeah, it's all the customization options in game.

[@setsunaquanta8795]

How to Sorya. 😅

[@Hi-Yanto]

The timing to do another wgf/ewgf on all mishimas is kinda hard for me because let say I'm doing multiple ewgf with Reina but I kept doing the wrong move which is queen stinger(df2) after one or two wgf/ewgf

[@ericwilliams7945]

I can’t do them consistently in a match and i also can’t do perfect electrics yet well on purpose lol

[@banjoboi24]

I can NEVER get an electric with Kazuya in Smash, it's just too hard for me. Good thing Pikachu's electric in Pokkén is much simpler to perform lol

[@shotygamingonyt]

can u please do a toturial on how to do a electric dash and the into the ewgf to ccover more distance? Please

[@seatnikcell8748]

For all those who start doing this and think that's enough, take this tip, it's just step 1 to do 7 consecutive out of 10 or so. The following stages are much, much tougher, such as Dash Electric and DEEP Dash Electric in order to reach the maximum potential of the character(or mishima especially) add this to a movement and eventually electrics and i call them on demand... that's what makes her Very Very hard to PLAY. BTW cool guide

[@melvinshine9841]

Ignoring that I still can't do the initial input on demand, much less to punish anything, the fact I can't do something as simple as hitting the direction and the button at the same time drives me crazy. There's no trick, shortcut, drill or anything for that, you can either do it or you can't.🤬

[@lichtbach7693]

Break the input down slowly the idea is input df and 2 at the same time display your command history then slowly do it faster. Or . . . Change character jk. You can do it

[@justApplay]

It takes some time to finding the mind trick to get the timing down. A lot of people like to think they are pressing the punch button slightly before the diagonal, and that can help people time it better. Just keep at it and you may find a trick that works for you.

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

Bind the 2 input to right bumper, this way you're doing the input all with one hand. It is MUCH EASIER to do this way. I went from not being able to do it at all to 90% perfect all the time.

[@chunchoe]

really great guide i never really thought of practicing using it to punish against the bots, what about side stepping into electrics?

[@justApplay]

Step two should help with that, but you could also set the bot to block on first action, and Punish on second, then record a move you want to sidestep and punish. The bot will attack whenever they block one of your attacks, so you can sidestep afterwards.

[@chunchoe]

thanks i appreciate it!@@justApplay

[@LiangHuBBB]

too hard on dpad I will just use reine without electrics

[@bignoob2726]

Nah bro, just spend one night in the training mode

[@allanfelipesilva3144]

Thanks Man Nice video, using arcade make ewgf more easy?

[@justApplay]

I think Arcade Stick is more fun to use, but not necessarily better.

[@theelusivememe1772]

Aint kidding with that hand pain. Practiced electrics with hei in t7 for 2 months on pad. I can now do them consistently in t8 but my thumbs be hurting. I got a leverless, but can donelectrics on there at all.

[@Phantom73949]

Were you using the ps5 controller?

[@theelusivememe1772]

@Phantom73949 no was using series x, I don't like the ps5 pad for fighters, and ps4 is to mushy for me.

[@yoshitsune5691]

Ahh see I use the 8bit do pad, its soft but not mushy like the ps4/5 pad, so i doesn’t hurt my thumb

[@Shazasterforever1]

How are you doing electric on leverless.

[@theelusivememe1772]

​@Shazasterforever1 I've been doing it the regular way. I know there is a two handed method which I can do easy, do I don't know how practical it really is and it only works on p1 side.

[@Lakjager]

Bro my ps5 dpad does NOT let me do electrics💀

[@laah8916]

On a gamepad, I press f, n, df+ 2. Comes out fine. Don't need to worry at all about the down input.

[@justApplay]

The only problem with getting used to this input is that you can't do that one out of movement

[@peppero0]

whats the timeframe when doing 2 ? i often try inputting as soon as first one comes out, but game doesnt seem to register the forward neutral input, ended up with df2 instead.

[@justApplay]

The input cannot be buffered, so you must wait to fully recover from blocking or another attack's animation before doing it. Maybe that's what causing you to get a df2. The forward part is getting eaten up.

[@keanuakbar8083]

fck this ewgf my left hand felt like rip off but thanks for the tutorial😁

[@Enmaphy]

Why the hell I'm watching this, I play King lol

[@lichtbach7693]

Wavedashing into electrics is hard for me but im practicing xD is there any drills that you can share about wavu into electric?

[@justApplay]

Don't know if that's your case, but after a few wavus I start to lose precisions (especially on 2p side) so a good drill is to try to do it after 2 crouch dashes, then 3... and add more

[@3lectronX]

Back in tag 2 I used to do 1 wavu and get 10 consistently, then 2 wavu, then 3, etc.

[@lichtbach7693]

@@justApplay yea wavu precision is also my big problem when it comes to longer wavu into electric. Thanks for the advice ill lab that

[@skrongg]

Can you make a Mishima practice routine? Stuff players can do daily to improve over their journey?

[@justApplay]

Other than EWGF practice and wave dash (which I don't find very important for Reina), there isn't much you need practice for. But I'm thinking about uploading some videos about specific moves in the near future, talking about their applications. I think this is very important for Reina to broaden their arsenal. And I could expand this to other Mishimas as I learn more about them.

[@clairemadeinheaven]

i'm having trouble getting her EWGF consistently on an xbox controller, I was thinking about getting a leverless controller (razer kitsune) and fully investing time into it. would anyone recommend that or should I just keep at it with controller

[@justApplay]

You could try other controllers first. I heard the Xbox pad isn't the best for fighting games. Arcade Stick is VERY different and a lot of people find it hard to adapt, so if you could try your hands on one before buying it, it could save you some trouble later.

[@Firelord_Ozen]

Try a HAUTE 42 T13. Better specs than the Razer Kitsune at 1/4 it's price. You can get one for like $75. It's has mechanical switches, better customizability, great weight and size, and leading edge pcb.

[@exceedtio4098]

I get training whiff punish ewgf but is it even realistic to train to punish on block with ewgf? Is there an error in my calculation? Training on block seems kind of wasting your time. pewgf is 13f if you are a robot and lets say you want to punish a 1,1,2 of kazuya which is -17 on block. If you do a 13f pewgf, you got 4 frames leeway to perfectly input pewgf after the block, which you cant buffer. Even if you frame perfectly input it without any delay after the block, you get a leeway of 4 frames to input ewgf. If we go for a 15f on block, you just have 2f of leeway for pewgf or 1f leeway for a ewgf. It isnt realistic to use ewgf for block punish if you can use df2 which you can buffer on block, unless you are a robot of course. My ewgf accuracy is around 95% but it doesnt benefit me for block punishes anyway if it gets blocked, while df2 would have safe launched.

[@Vincent_Bloodstone]

wait is reina a mishima? because i thought only mishimas have electricity effects

[@thesage1066]

Yes

[@bloodbath10010]

1:27 me who can ewgf punish -14 with devil jin

[@razborkaptrsk9428]

Electrics feels almost impossible to do on pad. I can only do 13f electrics from "mist step" consistently.

[@justApplay]

What pad do you use? When I played on a PS4 controller, the trick was to hit the corner of the down input to get a df more easily.

[@razborkaptrsk9428]

@@justApplay DS4. I'm using dpad for forward input and right analog for df input

[@trinichinee6426]

Couldn't had done jf electrics in 7 but after using left bumper as 2+4 in 8 . I get the electrics 7 out of 10 times now Wavu is much easier to .. Just need to practise for a few weeks until she is ready .. using azucena until then .. steve main here btw..lol

[@rgdgfd2281]

Too eez learning know at first you can look at lightning at legs the time they exist us actually time when you need to press attack button,and it's not actually df and should be pressed with same time it's more like d+2 and then f.

[@BlackwindGogeta]

This works with Kazuya, Jin and Devil Jin, right?

[@justApplay]

Yes!

[@crazy911wman]

Oh damn reina is so hard! Wait... just use df2 lol

[@duski4633]

If i got f,n,d,df, df+2 input does it mean my 2 input slow? At this rate idk if its the pad or im just bad

[@tempo_808]

yeah your 2 needs to be faster

[@xTigerWise]

Ive been training electrics for a year and barely see improvement

[@mrlazy2343]

Buy a fkn Hitbox same happen to me got fed up it's fkn disaster mind gets fked up if you try to practice

[@ghost20689]

So what does the star there mean?

[@justApplay]

It just means neutral input (not pressing any directional for a bit)

[@ghost20689]

@@justApplay it means leaving a gap of 1 second?

[@Lharris94]

I still get down 2 a lot instead lol

[@YY10579]

canal muito bom, dificil achar video bom pt br/ videos atualizados com legendas pt br

[@ashwong3266]

ok but how exactly do you get df+2 without the df df+2 consistently?

[@3lectronX]

Practice

[@justApplay]

It's a matter of going into practice mode to find the right rythm for the button presses.

[@tallesferreira4467]

Dicas muito boas.

[@crymeariver221]

The best way I learned was to hit the 2 before the df. Like, plink the 2 into the df.

[@leoaltivez7161]

She didnt sugarcoat it

[@insanearcadesmen8752]

I can do it offline anytime in ghost battle but I can't do it online and idk what I'm doing differently

[@justApplay]

Depending on the ping, the game adds some delay frames. There's also the pressure of the real match.

[@insanearcadesmen8752]

@justApplay yea I'll keep it up and focus on reps

[@papasugaros]

Heihachi Tekken 3 alt costume tribute!!!

[@Zpf45]

Anyone know what the inputs for that kick is at 0:50

[@justApplay]

f,n,3 (mistep 3)

[@Xyos212]

What is the input for that kick poke at 0:52?

[@justApplay]

f,n,3 (Mistep ★ 3) It's a safe mid counterhit launcher.

[@Xyos212]

@@justApplay Thank you!

[@badddudey8303]

is doing this input on ps4 controller hard or am i disabled

[@keke7799]

Friends of mine who use ps4/ps5 controllers got a harder time to do electrics. So you're not that much disabled 🙂‍↕️

[@badddudey8303]

ill take not that much ty@@keke7799

[@genyatus]

What's your opinion on L1 2 Electric?

[@justApplay]

I never used this method when I played on pad, so I don't know. On arcade stick it's unnecessary, but I've heard it's a good trick to get the timing down on dualsense.

[@genyatus]

@@justApplay thanks, appreciate the response

[@Valdaxexe]

is it basically a dp input?

[@justApplay]

Yes, the crouch dash motion is basically a DP

[@Valdaxexe]

@@justApplay ah i see, thanks for the answer, i didnt really know since i dont play tekken but saw the notation for it

[@zerohunter4466]

Obrigado hadara

[@rosellrivera7935]

What’s the move at 0:53 ?

[@justApplay]

f,n,3

[@rosellrivera7935]

@@justApplaythanks vro

[@beneatherlessreimouu]

can u teach me how to wavedash with keyboard?

[@justApplay]

Unfortunately I never played on keyboard, so I don't have any tips to share.

[@KFSENSEI]

my rate its about to 30 to 40%, I cant do 2 consecutives

[@justApplay]

As long as you are getting wind god fist and not df2 or another attack by accident, that's great. Consistency will improve over time. Just gotta get it clean first.

[@mexklowawakening]

muscle memory,? i think

[@oscarisopthebest3424]

I fuckin hate z motion, hard to pull of especially on dualshock 4

[@ianjaydelosangeles3173]

What controller do you use

[@justApplay]

Arcade stick with korean lever

[@ianjaydelosangeles3173]

@@justApplay thanks, im just wondering if you can give me a link?

[@justApplay]

@@ianjaydelosangeles3173 A link to see the controller I use? it's an old Hori Rap 4, and the korean lever is a Crown 309 MJ Crazydongpal. I think with that info is easier to find. I don't recommend the Hori Rap 4 if you can afford a better stick. It's very small and hard to mod. Razer Panthera is good.

[@The4Quiabos]

quem traduziu continua traduzindo pfv

[@rookieluke3550]

WAIT IVE FOUGHT U IN RANKED BEFORE

[@rookieluke3550]

Ur tag is something to do with heihachi right? I just recognize that exact skin

[@justApplay]

@@rookieluke3550 No, I just use my normal handle

[@ZangetsuDDR]

Just can't do this fuckin move. every one i do is on accident. Frustrating

[@Misscoldstar]

It’s so dumb how Mishima players have to be so accurate with execution while other characters have similar value but with easier inputs

[@Retro_WrathX13B]

Fuck generic df2’s

[@SpawnPirate]

This is simply not true. No other singular move has all the properties and reward of EWGF.

[@Misscoldstar]

@@SpawnPirate you are right but the effort put into an electric is too much and not justified enough

[@Retro_WrathX13B]

@@SpawnPirate Right. No other high launcher is plus on block, no plus on block highs launch on normal hit, etc

[@dddaaa6965]

@@Misscoldstar That’s just moving the goalpost after admitting you’re wrong…plus plenty of characters have just frame moves

[@imnotabadslime671]

I can do elecric 100% of time xD in heat....sentai into df 2

[@AegisRick]

Buy a cheatbox. Can you hit 3 buttons at the same time? No practice required.

[@InvinciDon]

Electrics should be easier, there’s no excuse why we have to do an unnecessary input for a move that should be on a cooldown if it’s going to be that powerful, that trade should have been made in Tekken 8.

[@biel1404]

No

[@High2Lows]

they definitely should not be easier to do. the execution is a way to balance how strong the move is.

[@peppero0]

well tekken 8 does have easy mode electric for u. special style let u do electric with just a button ...

[@p3rcey]

Typical marvel fan detected

[@ligmasphere901]

Bro we have so much paint eating mechanics and dumbed down moves. Yet you want one of the best moves in the game to be a button press. Gtfo here 🤣