Apple Has Six Months to Open Up iPadOS

In this video I discuss how the EU's Digital Markets Act will force Apple to allow side loading and alternate browser platforms on iPadOS that might turn the iPad more of a proper tablet laptop.
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[@aperson6481]

EU's got Apple by the balls, and I love it.

[@markm0000]

Apple might as well get a vasectomy now because the EU will do it for them eventually.

[@sussteve226]

33 likes no reply's? What? Did _I_ just fix that? Okay but seriously apples got to get it together.

[@markm0000]

@@sussteve226I had a funny reply and it’s missing.

[@orionh5535]

This news excites me

[@AzureUnlinked]

The EUs touching Apple in places where even my uncle didn't dare go

[@rg975]

Hardware wise, iPads are incredible. But the software is way too restrictive for most workflows. Even Apple die hards can’t defend it.

[@mutestingray]

It’s amazing that it’s basically a giant touchscreen computer on par with my laptop. That’s wild. But the OS is useless. You’re still running iPhone-like apps on a desktop-capable machine. And the pricing is out-fucking-rageous.

[@PSy84]

@@mutestingraypricing is good for 2nd hand only😂

[@infinite1483]

@@PSy84the ipad air series is worth it tho (source me)

[@drifter402]

​@@mutestingraythat's the point though. Old people love ipads

[@Alexrocksdude_]

Still waiting patiently for the calculator app on iPad... It'll be released by the end of the century, hopefully.

[@yghhhhrffv]

The EU need to force them to make a calculator app for iPadOS

[@dirtyvinyl8817]

lol why is this our reality, look.. my computer cant do math by default...

[@mintcar]

It's not included? I was dumbfounded that my daughter's school iPad had ads in it's calculator app and this must be the reason. How come any school choose to buy these things? It's insane.

[@TheKeule33]

THERE IS ADS????!! *ON* the device???!! ​@@mintcar

[@mintcar]

@@TheKeule33 Theres apparently no stock calculator app and schools spend no money on software, so they install a bunch of software with lots of ads on the kid's devices that they have to use. So they spend time in the schoolday having to watch ads on their devices that were payed for with taxes.

[@Operational117]

@@mintcar That must be the reason... instead of Apple supplying a proper calculator on their iPadOS as part of the entire operating system package, they just let others handle that. There are articles that say that iPad does, indeed, have a built-in calculator, but that's through iPadOS' Spotlight Search function (which is accessed by first swiping down from the top-center, then swiping down from the center)... it is more akin to how Google's Search-bar can be used to perform calculations (albeit usable without internet access). The issue is that we get a ton of low-effort calculators, the vast majority being plagued with advertisements, with only a few high-quality ones that usually also have a free version that plagues you with ads and most of their features being locked behind a paywall. And unless schools specifically go out of their way to hire someone with the right knowledge to create a school computer package to handle everything a student needs, we end up with devices containing literal adware and potentially even spyware! Also (and this is probably my age showing) why the hell are children being given "school iPads" as their school computer?! iPads are the literal worst platform to use for that purpose!!! Back when I was in high-school, we used laptops with Windows pre-installed (nowadays you can get a laptop for as little as $190)! They weren't particularly great for gaming, but they were sufficient for most school tasks, as you could install Microsoft Office (some even came with it pre-installed) or OpenOffice. And before that, my parents had to get by with pen and paper (and their then-young noggin)!

[@topcomp1066]

Having an iPad Pro is like having a Ferrari in a town with a speed limit of 20 km/h. The car could easily go over 120 km/h, but you are artificially limited by the 20.

[@fteoOpty64]

A race ferrari with bolted doors and single window you had to climb in to drive.

[@F4TiMA.]

Absolutely and I’ve had the past three interactions and it’s rediculous

[@alexdebortoli915]

i think its even worse, its like having a electronic limiter installed. So even in the right circumstances you are still blocked at that speed.

[@organisationxiv2927]

Not if you root the hardware. Which is fairly easy for anyone with half a brain. It just takes some dedication to turn an Apple device into something more useful and dynamic. The possibility has always been there, you simply void your warranty in exploiting that possibility.

[@AverageAlien]

ok and? Don't buy it if you don't like it. Nobody forces you to buy apple products. The EU is a commie trashole

[@-eMpTy-]

When the EU first started to mess with big tech, I really had my concerns - but all major regulations they put in place have been nothing but net positive and pro consumer. This really showed me in essence that governmental intervention can not only be beneficial but is absolutely mandatory with the way tech is evolving.

[@Ramudo]

It’s almost like governments should be for the people, and not keeping the people in it in power.

[@mr.fantastic7756]

You say that until the government demands access for social credit rating reasons 😐 hand over all the personal information comrade 🫴

[@kenny4957]

marxism is good?

[@12226]

​​@@kenny4957marxism is when the EU protects consumers. the more the EU protects, the marxister it gets

[@apache937]

if only they didnt mess with tesla and their FSD

[@benjaminlynch9958]

I don’t normally make comments like this, but… can you remake this video and actually explain what the EU ruling is and what specifically Apple will have to do to comply? You didn’t actually explain ANY of that in the video here. Like, will they have to allow sideloading of apps? How will that work with unique custom hardware? Will devs be able to compile their own stand alone apps for distribution outside the Apple App Store? And even aside from the App Store angle - which presumably would have already been in place under the iOS ruling that affect iPhones??? - what else might be impacted here in terms of the user experience and what changes Apple might have to make?

[@mr.fantastic7756]

You say that until the government demands access for social credit rating reasons 😐 hand over all the personal information comrade 🫴

[@soloflo]

When the EU designates a platform as a “Gatekeeper” (in this case it has for iPadOS, alongside iOS which it earlier did) then the vendor has to un-gatekeep it. So it includes some of the things you mentioned. No tech details yet of course because it depends on Apple’s specific responses in the coming months.

[@battokizu]

6:40 and nothing. Jeez.

[@danielmag2228]

Ask the bing…it is cleaver more than your google friend😃

[@bozhidarmihaylov]

There are some Videos out that explain the alternative appstores process. Some beta-testers are rocking game emulators already :)

[@endermaster08]

the EU back at it again with the anti-monopoly practices

[@apache937]

if only they didnt mess with tesla and their FSD

[@mr.fantastic7756]

Anti-capitalist practices

[@rudysmith1552]

Good thing because they don't have domestic smart phone manufacturers

[@Optimistas777]

​@@mr.fantastic7756 capitalism is one of the components of a well functioning society, that has to have checks, balances, and maintenance. Anti-capitalism altogether would be like being anti-kidney, just because kidneys sometimes fail, become cancerous etc. It's just one part of a whole complex system

[@akmon3490]

How dare they stand in the way of birting giant soulless corporations that monopolize aspects of the market

[@KGBSpyGeorgeCostanza]

There's gonna be some loophole probably for apple to bypass this

[@mokisan]

Yes there is

[@Keckegenkai]

@@mokisan mind sharing your info?

[@Clofftai]

@@Keckegenkaijust wait 6 months

[@aetheralmeowstic2392]

Then the EU's gonna legally backhand them for their malicious compliance

[@Alias_Anybody]

Then they'll get whacked 6 months later, so what's really the point?

[@JuanxDlol]

Sorry Apple, you are not becoming Mister House irl, OPEN THE CODE NOW.

[@markm0000]

FBI OPEN UP

[@mr.fantastic7756]

You say that until the government demands access for social credit rating reasons 😐 hand over all the personal information comrade 🫴

[@moioyoyo848]

This is why I always go with yes man

[@masoclevine836]

more like the Brotherhood of Steel, hoarding their proprietary tech with the excuse of “protecting people from themselves”, stagnating innovation, and growling at anyone that disagrees with their methods or isn’t part of their little club

[@HolyArtsakh]

You mean doctor house ?

[@GooberScotsman]

I think it's time to retire iPadOS and just merge it with MacOS if these two machines use the same hardware.

[@Dave102693]

Then it’ll kill off the MacBook line entirely

[@randomgamingin144p]

@@Dave102693 corporate shill

[@attilavs2]

@@Dave102693 And if it does ? Who gives a crap

[@TheColonThree]

​@@attilavs2They lose money! Think as if you're them. Lose money = bad.

[@dbsirius]

@@Dave102693 They'll make money regardless, if you buy one or the other. Don't be sorry for them.

[@MmntechCa]

iPadOS is good for non-power users since it's easy to use and difficult to get into too much trouble with. But the M2 Pros, even the Air to a lesser extent, it's like buying a Mustang GT that's stuck on student driver mode, that governs the max speed to 110km/h and doesn't let you turn up the radio too loud.

[@scoontaman117]

wth are you talking about?

[@excarnator]

@@scoontaman117 They have the most powerful silicon of all tablets, but are held back by a mobile OS.

[@Diamoondust]

I LIKE YOUR ATTITUDE :)

[@guidelamp4025]

@@scoontaman117 Imagine buying a Ferrari that's been tuned to drive like a 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan.

[@venom477]

I have an iPad pro that I got from my employer. Because it's so limited on the software you can install. I only use it for two things. Steaming video and a very very fancy notebook to take notes.

[@jeffmorris880]

The more "Steaming" the video is, the better...

[@thegoblinwholaughs1137]

Yes. But they will probably find loopholes or malicously comply. Hoping EU cracks down on them if they do

[@ginx2666]

Thankfully those loopholes - if they even exist, as they haven't managed to find one for the USB-C usage - only hurt apple customers, who deserve to be treated like trash by virtue of, well, being apple customers in the first place.

[@daeganj]

@@ginx2666alright dude lmfao calm down

[@MultiCool55]

@@ginx2666 As much as I dislike Apple, nobody should have to suffer for no reason.

[@anthornt]

@@ginx2666 your lack of humanity is showing

[@ginx2666]

@@MultiCool55 Shit taste in technology and willful ignorance are reasons enough.

[@geneoakley]

Lets put it this way. My iPad Pro M1's geekbench score beats Windows laptops with the same price range by 20-50%. The only reason iPad isnt running MacOS is only to keep selling more Macbooks

[@britneyfreek]

that’s bullshit being put forward by people who never wrote 3 lines of serious code. it’s because apple understands a thing or two about usuability and architecturally both are different.

[@Unknown_User47294]

depends what windows laptops, if u compare it to like a high end gaming laptop theres no chance

[@reaperreaper5098]

Geekbench isn't a good benchmark to compare ARM to x86, and frankly, Apple Silicon is a benchmark darling that doesn't hold up in many real world tasks (more accurately, it's benefitted in a select few tasks with hardware acceleration, benchmarks happen to get some of that benefit). My M1 Pro 14" benches better than both my 5900HX laptop and 5900HS 2 in 1, but both of them perform much better as daily drivers, especially with 75%+ RAM utilization.

[@szaszm_]

I wish you could install Linux on iPads. They would become much more useful, basically a laptop, and good for coding on the go.

[@vijfsnippervijf]

I wouldn't use an iPad for Linux, but do belieb that companies should allow installing custom/alternate OSes to smartphones and ARM computers of any kind just like what happened with X86 computers.

[@thesenamesaretaken]

​@@vijfsnippervijfI'd go further: rather than it should be allowed, it should not be obstructed. The emphasis matters.

[@Blox117]

they lock the bootloader on all mobile devices for """security"""

[@vijfsnippervijf]

@@Blox117 Yeah, a computer is only secure if the user can check and replace the software on it. Otherwise it is vulnerable to manufacturer alterations.

[@mskiptr]

Manufacturer-controlled bootloaders directly violate basic property rights. Sadly, that would be extremely inconvenient for all vendors nowadays, so no court will likely see it that way

[@MrHubertGreen]

It's funny when you mention "the iPads with arm chips". Didn't all the iPads have arm chips? I think you meant the m1 CPUs

[@SintaxBSD]

Yeah lol, every ipad ever made is using ARM architecture, both the A-series and M-series processors.

[@O___P]

About using tablets to connect to VMs running on your own hardware: We really went a circuitous route to reinvent the terminal, huh? I miss serial connectors, they're simple to program for.

[@francesco3772]

frfr

[@SintaxBSD]

What about the trusty Universal 'Serial' Bus ? USB ?

[@SzBenedek2006]

On android you can even code a full app (for any os) and run apps for Linux and android, and some apps that have emulation. You can compile the linux kernel, you can write and use your own browser engine. So a dev who can't afford a laptop can use an android tablet for dev work. I can't say the same for ipad

[@shapelessed]

The problem with "alternate app stores" is the fact that Apple forces you to either use an alternate app store, or their own. You can NOT publish your application on the app store while it's being listed on an alternate app store. And even on these other app stores, Apple has control over it. It's disgusting - And that's coming from an iPad Pro user...

[@CaptainHalodude]

We should extend this to consoles as, they are effectively multimedia systems, have an x86 architecture and run some variant of Unix/BSD. They are basically one step away from being true computers

[@GeometricPidgeon]

Agreed.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

But Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo would easily argue that cheating and piracy would go out of control, defeating the purpose of the console versus buying any other media system.

[@deadboy9955]

I believe Bringus Studio actually installed linux on PS4.

[@CaptainHalodude]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD what would that change on the current piracy landscape? It would certainly make it easier for the masses but the information is already out there for people to peruse. I argue - why not go for the carrot approach and incentivise people to buy a console in spite of knowing piracy exists? Valve’s business model revolves around this. Heck, why even bother making consoles at all? They were a relic from a time when PC gaming were neither accessible nor affordable to most. Times and tech change, so should businesses.

[@IceBlueLugia]

@@CaptainHalodudeConsoles exist because most people do not want to deal with building custom PCs and understanding how to configure various settings. None of it’s very hard and frankly you can still get good deals with prebuilts. But look at how popular Netflix is when Stremio takes literally under 5 minutes to set up. People are lazy and honestly even aside from that a PC with similar specs to a console may often still get worse performance than the console because of worse optimization

[@PassiveHuntsman]

Off topic, but I got 2 little daemon hoodies. Expecting them next week. Love your content. Thanks for all the OpSec and InfoSec videos.

[@passingleaf1572]

The video uploaded a minute ago and there is already bunch of bots in the comments 🤦‍♂️

[@fffrrraannkk]

the camel toe girl is a classic

[@Optimistas777]

what are the bots about.?

[@jada1173]

Dont think every one get access at the same time, a minutes for you and your device but it may have been out maybe a hour already. Or early access for patreon users etc.

[@willkendallpro]

All this means is that Apple will produce an iPad specific to the EU and the OS they release for it won't work on iPads sold anywhere else in the world.

[@DemsW]

Apes together strong, if countries can agree to go against consumer predatory practices then this would be worldwide.

[@TheEyalYemini]

At this point if I was apple I would’ve pulled all products and support from the eu entirely.

[@generallowres4636]

Emulation and Nintendo Switch emulation more specifically on Ipads like with the Samsung tablets is honestly gonna be pretty cool

[@christianr.5868]

The have to allow jit first. Right now it can’t even do Dreamcast or GameCube/wii emulation until they let devs use JIT or you allow it using some other convoluted method

[@generallowres4636]

@@christianr.5868 With the power of sideloading, the possibilities are endless.

[@christianr.5868]

@@generallowres4636 they still need to allow jit even for sideloading. Dolphinios is side loaded and still doesn’t work without jit unfortunately

[@anomishfish]

If you haven’t already jailbroken your Apple device then I don’t know what you’re doing. (Good) Wii emulation, (bad) Switch emulation, and even VMs have been a thing for YEARS on the JB scene.

[@christianr.5868]

@@anomishfish waiting for the iOS 17 jailbreak. Just recently got my iphone

[@NoMoreFyre]

I don't know why Apple just doesn't put OSX on the iPad, maybe this will make them consider

[@kjvasquez]

That would be the ideal device, but it will kill the macbooks, so they will never do that

[@zedev444]

if they did that they would need to open source macOS, they'd run the company to the ground before open sourcing that

[@nightelfuser]

Mental Outlaw did explain why. Because it would compete with their Air line.

[@minsekfau3218]

To create demand so that cumsoomers would be deceived into buying more Crapple Inc. products

[@smartphonefan5226]

I​@kjvasquez The MacBook Air would be the only one affected, which I wouldn't be mad about since the iPad Pro has a touchscreen, higher refresh rate, stylus support, and cellular connectivity. The MacBook Pro will likely survive since it still has the most ports and powerful hardware.

[@benni1015]

I know a little off topic, but the design of the windows phones was pretty great back then. I still have a Lumia 950 here and I love love love the design of the UI. The big issue plaguing windows phones was the rather buggy software and ofc the lack of app support.

[@TheAtariSan]

the surface pro 3 was amazing if you mainly bring your mech keyboard and mouse with you. Sadly, used to run linux like crap when i cared about it.

[@ShotgunAFlyboy]

A cheap windows tablet that acts as a dumb client for a cloud-hosted dev machine is the way I work in the corporate world now. It's great. My device doesn't get hot, nor does it need to be heavy; at the end of my day, "work" has an X in the upper right corner that makes it go byebye and not be mingled with my personal life.

[@Dave102693]

I hope that Apple has to do what MSFT did in the EU; make all system (software) components be easily removable.

[@AschKris]

A correction, you can totally use an iPad to connect to other devices I use it as a laptop to develop through ssh for example. I even used to use vscode (remotely of course) on it.

[@LiberaMeFromH]

Outside of notetaking because I like the fact I can use a stylus, I just use it as a secondary monitor with my laptop, kind of makes me wish I never gave up my surface tablet, although, I’ve been contemplating switching to a samsung tablet.

[@ccf_1004]

If apple unlocked the bootloader for those M1 powered iPads, I'd totally buy one

[@mskiptr]

They just need to port their iBoot user signing from Macs to iDevices

[@user-zi7vg5zd1d]

apple are doing the opposite tho

[@ccf_1004]

@@user-zi7vg5zd1d Which is why I will never purchase one lmao

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

As someone who’s very pro right to repair… is removable storage even an issue worth complaining about (given everything else)? I mean external drives are faster and you don’t have to unscrew your laptop…

[@topg2820]

Devices that have removable storage can also use external drives if you didn’t know 😀

[@Sonic-gy7kq]

@@topg2820 If you wanna be like that then technically apples "non-removable storage" is actually removable. People make a living off of it. People want a removable battery like a 2000 nokia where the battery could accidentally fall out

[@JohnSmith-qt4pv]

When the soldered SSD dies from heavy use of the swap file you'll have an unrepairable brick

[@drewo.127]

If I’m able to use an external Hard drive connected to my MacBook as a personal cloud system to offload stuff like render time or store things wirelessly (alongside iCloud, of course) then that would make me pretty happy!

[@ngroy8636]

I am happy if it has terminal and allow users to compile whatever

[@JorgetePanete]

American capitalism 101: if you can't afford Apple's literal doorstops or obviously don't want to buy doorstops $2k a piece you deserve to be laughed at.

[@tierdropp7544]

People really use capitalism as an excuse for anything bad in the world

[@mixmax6027]

Yes, barely comply. Spirit vs. letter of the law

[@theloniousMac]

You actually can expand storage on iPads. I often connect a 1 terabyte Samsun T7 to my iPad Pro. I connect it to cloud storage, I connect it to thumb drives and NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE.

[@joman66]

I have the M2 iPad with the same Samsung t7 and I do the exact same thing as well for video editing with DaVinci resolve.

[@spilk1]

I'd be so happy if I could get some open source tools on my nearly EOL iPad Air

[@newbunny93]

I really wish the US would adopt EU policies.

[@WotWizz]

Our government gets paid off by big tech, so that will never happen.

[@TheDZHEX]

US might be evolving... they recently banned non-competes.

[@jacobbachman4014]

@@FoxWolfWorld ... the eu doesnt have social credit??? thats china, a state capitalist economic system.

[@Axodus]

These are the sort of laws I'd expect to originate from the US, it's sad that they're falling behind in the terms of consumer rights..

[@TheDZHEX]

ok, it seems like my reply fell into the void or something, trying again... US did ban non-competes, so perhaps they are evolving in the legal sector...

[@TheMixflow]

the ipad dont even has a native calculator!

[@thomasmeldrum6238]

An even more interesting discussion now that the M4 chipset in the new iPad Pros is more advanced than the M3 in recently released MBs. It sure would be awfully nice if they offered some kind of bootcamp or VM option for MacOS on iPad at WWDC.

[@asinglefrenchfry]

I don’t think they need to, or ever will, outright let macOS run on iPads. It would defeat the purpose of the entire product category. They could simply allow macOS applications to run on iPadOS

[@i1KiCK1BUTT]

The thing I like about my surface is the fact it can run Linux. I do wish i could have a case like what apple has that would be so much nicer than my folding case.

[@frankhoney3228]

I wonder what a linux os made for tablets would look like or void on a tablet

[@tierdropp7544]

We can only dream as of now 😢

[@reaperreaper5098]

It'd look like a more polished GNOME or KDE Plasma 5.25+

[@Noodles.FreeUkraine]

"The iPads with the ARM chip"-Uhm, can you please show me an iPad that had any other chip? 🤔

[@t7a9]

you havent heard of the ppc ipad?

[@RomeoTango3]

4:49 I’ve always said the iPad has the same internals as MacBook Air. When docked to a keyboard or external monitor, I think the interface must change to the MacOS interface. Their goal should be to make every form factor they produce as user friendly and flexible as possible, especially at these prices. Their focus has become about the dollar and they’ve forgotten about those who buy their products.

[@kevinrineer5356]

Mobile tablet thin clients sound great. When can we have that?

[@superioropinion6421]

We need them to bring back replaceable battery on every smartphone!

[@8bitsloth]

You know they won't. They will "open" it, but you'll have to pay out the nose or jump through nearly impossible hops to sideload an app. Just look what they have done with the USBC cables.

[@kriss12loverap]

there u mentioned a strategy for apple to keep selling ipad and macs to their pro audience. u can use your ipad for everything, but if you want faster rendering you can offload it to your mac, or any other case.!!! genious.

[@Jonathantuba]

We can only hope that this allows us to download specialist software not available in iPadOS. Then it really will be the computer to take on travels.

[@rothn2]

If I bought an iPad I'd put Asahi Linux on it and then be frustrated that it doesn't work very well. That's why I don't buy an iPad. Someone needs to make an iPad for computer nerds

[@mskiptr]

iPads - despite using the same chips as Macs now - have locked, Apple-controlled bootloaders. You cannot sign custom kernels so they won't boot Asahi at all. (We need something like checkm8 for M1+! Or finally start porting Asahi drivers to the older, A-series chips.)

[@rothn2]

@@mskiptr Well that sucks!

[@crunchtime6244]

The EU is Based af.

[@sigiligus]

Yeah bro, sanctioning countries into oblivion for not allowing infinity African rapists into their countries is so heckin based because they also mildly annoyed Apple!

[@Kazekoge101]

@@FoxWolfWorld Based af on Tech*

[@zedev444]

@@Kazekoge101 not even really, all these new regulations (maybe not the charger and sideloading one) come back to "governance" (keyword for control), Digital ID and the Digital Euro

[@Z3r0Sk83r]

Now typically, I don't defend countries in the 14-Eyes alliance, but this in particular is low on the list of surveillance and control. If you're worried about a totally voluntary digital version of an EU ID and Wallet I promise you they already have enough of a digital footprint to connect it to you.

[@Lorre982]

​@@zedev444 you known that EU id card are already digital have the same standard, nfc chips and fingerprints, right?

[@supermaster2012]

6:45 UTM works perfectly fine on iPadOS and it supports hardware acceleration on M2 devices. Also you've always been able to side load on iOS, you just have to pay 99€/year for a developer license and you can just sign and side load whatever IPA you want.

[@LoisLPV]

still does it run nicely on iPadOS 17 ?

[@supermaster2012]

@@LoisLPV yeah, it's just a bit more nuanced to enable JIT now without macOS because of the developer image deprecation but it can still be done with libimobiledevice.

[@LoisLPV]

@@supermaster2012 but i thought the hypervisor was removed in ver 16

[@supermaster2012]

@@LoisLPV no? The only thing that changed is Xcode no longer uses DMG developer images

[@LoisLPV]

@supermaster2012 UTM posted about it, hypervisor support was removed by Apple since iOS 16.4 iirc that means no native virtualization is possible on later versions on those devices for now

[@abdoun8214]

Man i enjoy your content

[@TurntableTV]

What the hell is up with all these bot comments?

[@distinguishableusername]

youtube being youtube

[@DiegoRockLoiro]

50% of internet’s traffic is made up by bots

[@kouhaiii3182]

it's been like this for ages. better just report it than acknowledge it :)

[@ashishpatel350]

couldnt have happened to a better company. but lets see the US go after european companies in the us not just tech companies

[@TheXshot]

Fair. But which companies for example?

[@Mankepanke]

Which companies?

[@tierdropp7544]

Yeah the EU's Policies are a double edged sword, basically destroying any incentive for notable/big tech companies to exist. For example a Czech social media company gave up after gdpr was passed. Too much regulation for the small guys to get started.

[@ashishpatel350]

@@Mankepanke mostly car and luxury brands .

[@Mankepanke]

@@ashishpatel350 ah, yeah. Let's hope so too. Not sure what the gatekeeping is there, but of course people should own their hardware and be able to do what they want with it.

[@maxrburgess]

My ideal reality is one in which Apple unlocks iOS, adds excellent Mac app support (through a VM or something), then replace macOS with iOS. I think it'd be good for them as well (except the unlocking bit).

[@CrisCheese_]

mac apps could technically run natively on ios as ipados apps do on mac, theyd just need a compatability layer i guess

[@maxrburgess]

@@CrisCheese_ they do both run Darwin CPUs so their byte code is compatible but there is a LOT of libraries and system services that are different.

[@yungabilify]

the most powerful app I have ever been able to use on my ipad pro has been some mid-tier sculpting app. The iPad is starved for more use. I want to see full fledged IDEs on this, not just vscode on the web

[@blakestone75]

I’m not actually on board with this. The entire point of Apple products is to do things the “Apple way”. If you don’t like it, use something else. Use windows. Use Linux. I’m struggling to think of a use case for iPad as anything other than a browser, email checker, and video streamer. Apple doesn’t have a monopoly on anything here. There are plenty of other options.

[@HunkCSS]

New version, now whit no backdoor on it

[@InimitaPaul]

If you need expandable storage you’re doing it wrong, get an external drive and a NAS at home and buy the smallest storage available. Plus with the NAS you can F their cloud storage off as well.

[@XashA12Musk]

1:52 that evil tim cook always gets me 😂😂

[@Hepad_]

Yet another EU W

[@blackwhitecringy]

The EU is Based af

[@apache937]

if only they didnt mess with tesla and their FSD

[@lpnp9477]

Please shut up about this, no one cares ​@@apache937

[@Optimistas777]

@@apache937 do you have tesla stock? you keep spamming this

[@apache937]

@@Optimistas777 no i dont but i dont want to drive i want fsd to drive me

[@kaptain1477]

I don't agree with government telling a company what to do about their products. If the government can force them to change their lightning connector what else do they tell Apple to do regarding users data

[@crazychicken2005]

Watching the EU force Apple to make their products be more consumer-friendly is more interesting then any TV show out there.

[@user-hu4mx8bz3e]

I hate apple products, I have 3 macbooks but having 10 adapters for everything is a legit milking scam.

[@mr.fantastic7756]

You say that until the government demands access for social credit rating reasons 😐 hand over all the personal information comrade 🫴

[@FantasticPlastik]

You must have mac books from a decade ago 😂 they all use usb c now

[@Obito-Uchiha666]

Hate it but own 3 of one product?😂😂

[@FantasticPlastik]

@@Obito-Uchiha666 🤣

[@srsjackson]

Just imagine if EU demands software developers to go open source?

[@arq1es]

They won't lol. It would be cool if they forced hardware drivers to be open-source tho

[@Dave102693]

Make all software and hardware open source would be a godsend

[@srsjackson]

@@arq1es slowly but surely we'll get there.

[@organisationxiv2927]

It can't and it won't. That'd be authoritarian nonsense and not in the interest of proprietary and intellectual rights and freedoms at all. - EDIT - And not in the interest of individual creators, inventors and small groups and businesses either. It'd really be like forcing everyone into an engineers' union in which all secrets, patents, designs and systems are shared and able to be reproduced, transformed and altered. I.e, I don't want this to happen to code I write; I want to safeguard my ideas and creations. And I want to be able market it in addition to this. As a lone software engineer, I don't want other people marketing something they've created using my ideas, products and creations. Not if I can help it.

[@arq1es]

@@organisationxiv2927 which small business or lone engineer designs full hardware piece. It would just impact mostly iphones and macs which can't run other os cuz of drivers. And nvidia cuz with open-source drivers, they would get ported to linux

[@dontblamepeopleblamethegov559]

The way Apple is gonna comply is by allowing other stores BUT enforcing that every app goes though the Apple's check to be whitelisted. Which would remove the possibility of any emulators to appear.

[@Randy-nb6fw]

i got an i7 surface pro 4 with fedora on it and its a great time :)

[@jamessmith4172]

I think it’s unfortunate how a lot of these digital rights libertarian types turn off that part of their brain when it comes to Apple. I understand the impulse, but it’s wrong..

[@infinite1483]

Fuck apple and regulation isnt always wrong

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

The freedom of the individual to control their devices should supersede the freedom of Corporations to conduct buisness. If business practices infringe on my rights, i want that ceased.

[@mskiptr]

@@acceptablecasualty5319 this

[@RetroActiveGM]

When I buy a toaster, I just want it to make toast. I don't want my toaster to demand I connect it to the internet so it can send telemetry data about how often I make toast so it can sell that data to third parties, while spending an hour updating the toaster to the latest software version while giving me no control over how or when it updates. I don't want my toaster to demand I use bread made by the toaster company, while restricting any other brand of bread. You see the problem. When you own an Apple phone, you don't really. Apple control your operating system, what apps you can install, and they can even make your phone slower if they want to. Apple users do not control their operating systems.

[@BurgerKingHarkinian]

What is there to understand? You are a moron if you blindly trust the marketing conglomerate Apple. Plain and simple.

[@ThirdTimeCharm]

I love how a good portion of this Channel is dedicated to security and anonymity to protect yourself from hostile government action. And then 90% of the comments are people circle jerking when governments perform hostile actions against corporations.

[@topg2820]

Obviously we will support the right thing being done

[@jayisasalad]

corpos doing anti consumer and anti competitive things is worthing of taking hostile actions against

[@DrBovdin]

If I had to bet, my money would be on the “Barely comply” option. It _is_ Apple we are talking about here after all…

[@Candyapplebone]

I got my iPad with the keyboard because I was hoping to have it replaced my laptop. For the most part, it does work as a laptop replacement. But it doesn’t do everything. I can’t write code on it. I would love it if I could use it to be a client, and have it remotely connect to another more powerful computer for compiling code.

[@SintaxBSD]

You can certainly use Visual Studio Code on it which as you might already know, can connect to remote machines via SSH.

[@aeelinnannelie5651]

Also is really concerning to have such powerfull device and not being able to explore its full potential due the its sh1tty OS. Any cheap computer can accomplish more than the iPad when we are talking about productivity

[@Dave102693]

Facts

[@thingsiplay]

I recommend watching this video at x1.3 speed.

[@AverageJoe46549]

Thanks.

[@knufyeinundzwanzig2004]

how 1.3

[@AverageJoe46549]

@@knufyeinundzwanzig2004 I tried. 1.25 works fine. I was wondering the same thing

[@thingsiplay]

@@knufyeinundzwanzig2004 Ah I forgot that I am using an alternate KZbin client. Just use the next best thing like x1.25.

[@mskiptr]

@@knufyeinundzwanzig2004 Extensions or alternative apps | players

[@Spidouz]

To really unlock the full potential of the iPad, we need Apple to come with an UnifiedOS, meaning running a new full MacOS that would have 2 different UI. You would have an “iPad UI mode” that would look just like iPadOS right now, easy to use with your fingers, but as soon as you would grab a precise pointer such a new Pencil, or Mouse or Trackpad, then the UI could adjust itself to look like MacOS, with of course ability to run any MacOS application, with Finder, Terminal and DevKit, so you would turn your iPad Pro into a full blown MacBook with touchscreen… It wouldn’t run two OS, but just one OS since a M2 or higher hardware could already run smoothly MacOS anyway, so potentially an iPad Pro can run MacOS… and most of the OS apps are already looking similar between iPadOS and MacOS. So we simply just need an ability to switch UI according to the pointer we’re using… if you don’t have any pointer and use your fingers, then iPadOS UI mode would be perfect… and if you have a precise pointer, then you don’t have to restrict yourself with iPadOS UI, you can use MacOS UI… by doing so, Apple can argue they’re running MacOS so the iPad Pro wouldn’t be any different from MacBook and the EU laws would become irrelevant…

[@rjbse]

I doubt the EU can do anything significant, hell even right now iOS is still not following the spirit of the ruling for opening up to 3rd party apps/sideloaded apps.

[@xMidan]

I find this to be major government overreach. By a place I dont live in towards a company I hate. Womp,womp.

[@ethanpschwartz]

I bought an iPad Pro because it's NOT a laptop. The argument that a tablet should do the same things as a laptop because they're similarly priced is idiotic. My keyboard cost the same as a Tamagotchi, so should all keyboards have a virtual pet to feed and play with?

[@sarcasticvenom4051]

Then charging an absurd amount of money for something that you can easily do with a phone but it just has a bigger screen is just as idiotic if not more.

[@Dave102693]

@@sarcasticvenom4051exactly

[@Jorda5s]

I hope someone makes a app to emulate Mac OS before apple or even windows would be really cool

[@skyrade4042]

Im so happy that I am still on a ios 16 on both of my devices, so that I can install Trollstore and not deal with apple. Such a breathe of fresh air

[@jm4xx]

first

[@JuanNacho-ql6np]

Noice

[@aaroncarroll4158]

I honestly don’t understand the argument at all. You bought an iPad Pro you know what the restrictions are. Then you complain about it. You can buy another product that doesn’t have those restrictions. It’s wild that a government can you tell a company what they have to do with the IP they spent money developing. I get the App Store stuff but the entire operating system?

[@Mankepanke]

It's an unreasonable limitation and regulations are all about limiting the amount of abuse a corporation can do. If they said that 0.2% of iPad Pros are allowed to have embedded C4 charges that detonate on 1st of July every second year, that should not be allowed even if "users know of this risk".

[@Boy_Wonder888]

because the alternative is/was ass. Apple is being punished for being too successful.

[@pyrokamileon]

okay it was fun when the EU government forced Apple's hand and made them upgrade to USBC.. The amount of things that the EU is trying to come in and change just sounds like a person who's been having an iPhone for years now and got tired of not being able to make those changes so they're having the government force them to. I love it but it is getting a bit embarrassing. Android is the open(-ish) one, Apple is the closed one. I think we should leave the companies to their own devices. if EU loves apple so much they should just come out and buy them..

[@mtarek2005]

I'm pretty sure virtualization will run well on the M series CPUs

[@monotematico]

I dunno man... I don't like governments telling people how to conduct their business. Imagine like they told you: "KZbinrs must show their faces at all times," or similar nonsense.

[@JamesWilliam70]

hear hear!

[@vernearase3044]

So sick of the European Commission thinking they're kinds of the world. Is Siemens a gatekeeper for medical equipment? How about Spotify the world's largest music streamer (who pays artists minimum wage).

[@jUsh-Nwjz-Qn7d]

Those are not trillion dollar companies, so they will not be able to pay the fine just for the EU to f-off. I would really like to see how fast EU would backtrack if Apple came out and said "Ok, we will be closing our locations and businesses in EU. And starting from next month iOS device activation will not be possible from EU, from month after that we will just firewall IPs from EU and all our services will be disabled." Then the same libtards that are now celebrating will cry with their green bubbles.

[@neuemilch8318]

I hope it will be opened, i have an older iPad and a lot of the problems i have with it would go away

[@oevers]

The only thing we still need is an open wireless file dropping standard (like AirDrop) in all operating systems and the digital world is fixed.

[@BSingh-on4qr]

Literally need UTM to be unrestricted on iPads and it will help so much

[@GoldRanger1]

Coming from an M2 iPad Pro owner…. iPadOS has to go. Or at least allow MacOS apps to run on it somehow. Because an 1100 tablet, plus 200-350 Logitech/Apple keyboard(smart connectors), plus 130 pencil and can’t run desktop apps is CRAZY

[@480darkshadow]

Just buy a Mac, or an actual big boy pc not from apple

[@mistkeyblade]

Who's buying tablets expecting to use them like a laptop? Why wouldn't they just buy, you know... a laptop?

[@dooogides9176]

Finally!, some OSmac functions on iPad

[@AirTMZ]

I left my iPhone and iPad because of the locked down software. I thought I was completely away, and the Macbook drew me back. Interesting how the only device I would buy from Apple is the one that isn't locked down.

[@ervczek]

Can't wait for Apple to announce all those things like they are the ones that wanted to implement them

[@dromioak]

so ur saying i can finally turn my i pad into a drawing tablet for my computer?

[@TakiGosc427]

Where i live we celebrated anniversary of joining the eu. Great news, but it would be better if the clip was shared the day before