Apple HomeKit can now talk to Google Nest without Homebridge

[@LelandRhymes]

Can we get an update, 6 month review?

[@jd-py5nm]

I worked for nest and love the products was considering switching to ecobee but may try this instead and stay with my beloved nest

[@jaydmorales23]

Starling is homebridge, it’s literally the same guy, just selling small Raspberry Pi’s with the commands installed

[@drdrew3]

Yep. He said that

[@AlmightyEye]

@@drdrew3so why shill it? 🤡

[@bryceharvey6019]

Hi there! Do you know if this will work if I have the nest alarm system? Will it show up in HomeKit?

[@CraigCaruso]

Yes

[@bbruce65]

Just installed this Starling hub so I can integrate Nest Protect onto Homekit. Was very easy once the firmware update finally installed as it took a few tries to get it to load. Thanks for bringing this product to light.

[@bigmacbiggs2139]

Do you happened to have the doorbell?

[@bbruce65]

@@bigmacbiggs2139 I do not, sorry.

[@DGYtown]

Can you watch the cameras on an Apple TV ?

[@SWLinPHX]

Does this work if you have multiple homes in the Google Home app?

[@Zomfoo]

When you have a bridge allowing non-HomeKit devices (like Nest devices) do those devices still send data to an outside system for processing?

[@matthiasknappe271]

As I understood, the Starling Hub can integrate google nest devices into apples homeKit. Does it also work the other way, that means: Can I control my Apple HomeKit system with google assistant via the google nest hub or google nest mini (voice controlled?)

[@tbc_2024]

Does Starling allow for triggers for other devices from Nest cam zones? or just any motion in the Nest cam?

[@tbc_2024]

I got answer from Adrian at Starling. Yes each of the Nestcam zones are supported!!

[@MrWonderbread1984]

has starling had any updates that make the audio work for your cameras in HomeKit?

[@markirwin1971]

Great video Eric, I purchased this over three months ago and it has worked flawlessly since setting it up. Regular updates are posted, and with no additional set up my nest protect sensors are available for automation by turning lights on when they sense movement and all my Google nest cameras have sound as well.

[@EricWelander]

That’s wonderful to here! Yeah the security system integrations with Nest and Starling look really nice.

[@spencerbigum1309]

Awesome news, I'm looking at Aqara setup, but it just doesn't have the same set of features as Nest. My main concern though is that Nest integration is not native and therefore not guaranteed....

[@joncruz]

The problem is there's no way to install plugins like you can do in home bridge

[@JohnnyLeuthard]

It's really frustrating that everything is another hub! More hubs, cables, network devices, cables. Talk about a huge mess and once you start down one road it's a pain to have everything talk to one another in a different ecosystem.

[@drdrew3]

If you buy actual HomeKit devices the hub is already built into an iPad, Apple TV or HomePod. Nest is way over priced. HomeKit thermostat only costs $85 and it’s supported and fully integrated with Apple and Siri

[@Louisz14]

Can this work with other accessories on my google home? Like a roomba?

[@andrewcbartlett]

Latest update supports all Google Home devices.

[@clearbluesky2009]

Can you change the notification sound of the Nest Hello using this hub?

[@nagyba]

No, I absolutely don't trust Google with my mail. Are you kidding me? They literally say they scan and sell the contents of the emails to third parties in their Terms and Conditions 😂

[@vitoriacorreia218]

How did yous et up the Nest on Homebridge?

[@stevedekorte]

Can you make an automation to play a doorbell noise on your HomePods when the Nest Hello doorbell is pressed?

[@abhisheksarkar311]

Do third party devices that sort of work with google only also pop up on Homekit after this integration like Switch bot without using apple shortcuts

[@EricWelander]

Yes Starling appears as an uncertified bridge in HomeKit which makes Nest products visible

[@oliversamala4215]

Hi Eric, i just ordered Hoobs and I now feel awful as Sterling is way cheaper. But is it any better?

[@martyspamy]

Does it integrate google home mini and Google nest hub in Apple HomeKit ?

[@EricWelander]

Unfortunately it does not. Unless you were to use that to control a Nest accessory, and then HomeKit saw the change. You could also do this with any manufacturer accessories that support both Google Home and HomeKit. It wouldn’t be instant, but HomeKit would see the change and be able to react to it by controlling other accessories.

[@ErikAsquith]

Martin Hospital it will integrate the Google Nest Hub Max camera, assuming you setup the camera in the Nest app.

[@marcushudson1521]

Will this work with a ring doorbell

[@weirdflex271]

Does using this device on homekit allow me to still access the Nest/ Google Home app without causing any issues? Also, since making this video how has your overall experience been since using the device to connect to HomeKit?

[@tharais]

I'm using HB to bring two Nest Thermostats and seven Nest Protects to Homekit and I can use either HK or the native Nest app without causing any issues. But, I actually prefer the Nest App for the thermostats. It's easier to operate and, more intuitive than trying to control them from Homebridge.

[@jamesfannon1406]

Very informative video, Eric. Quick question: Do you happen to know if the Eve app (or a similar app) grants access to Nest Protect sensors for use as triggers? It would be great to have all the lights come on when the Nest Protects detect smoke. Thanks!

[@cgrieme]

Do you know if no sound was just an issue you were having with the cameras or if this a limitation of Starling Home Hub?

[@bigmacbiggs2139]

I would also like to know this

[@tsizzle]

What about compatibility with Matter?

[@andrewcbartlett]

Buy Matter devices!?

[@ShaneCreates]

Man it looks cold there! Lol Great video and coverage of this Eric! I’ve heard a lot about this lately so it’s good to see it in use! 👍🏻

[@EricWelander]

Thanks Shane! Yeah when I was filming that doorbell B roll it was below 0 F. Thankfully it’s been a pretty mild winter this year though.

[@rstr0up]

Aww snap, 2 of my favorite Apple HomeKit youtubers in the same message. 2020 is wild! Y’all gotta see about HomeKit secure video (HSV) working with starling/HomeKit. The new os for Apple looks great for HomeKit devices! Looking forward to watching yalls vids when that rolls out! Keep it up!

[@oscarsariles]

With homebrige some times it loses the google token and it's a mess to re-authorized, is it the same thing with starling?

[@EricWelander]

I haven't had to re-auth in ages. Starling has had a requirement to re-login with a software update last year IIRC, but it's a rare occurrence and also IIRC they send out emails about it when it happens.

[@Carbon14N]

Did the NEST camera and doorbell audio/talk issue ever get resolved??

[@alexandermurphy8326]

Will this work with Amazon products as well?

[@EricWelander]

No, this is just for Google Nest. You would want to look at something like a HOOBS bridge to connect Amazon stuff in HomeKit

[@pedroblay169]

Eric is it possible to use a HomePod as a chime with google hello once it is in the Homekit environment using starling?

[@bigmacbiggs2139]

Any more news on whether you can hear/speak through the doorbell?

[@americanexpress888]

do you know if Wyze works with this home hub on iPhone?

[@jaydee9768]

Hi Eric, do you think you could do a video using HOOBS and Nest protect. I can't seem to get it to work even after following their instructions to a "T" or at least I think I am. Thank you

[@MrB8boy]

Having done the Home Bridge, this doesn’t seem worth while to me as it ends up being the same thing.

[@rstr0up]

Does HomeKit Secure Video (HSV) work with starling? I have mine setup and see the live feed but if I upgrade my iCloud storage, can I get HSV and record too?

[@bobekdj]

Great video thanks! Do you happen to have a security system from nest you have tested with starling or homebridge? I would like to integrate my nest guard/secure (security system) to apple homekit... It looks like this interface allows that integration as well as some other advanced connection options. Can anyone comment and provide resources if this is possible with homebridge / hoobs / etc? To me it looks like many of the google products integrate, however cant find any mention of the security products?

[@stellarola]

Does this work even if you've upgraded your Nest account to Google account?

[@spencerbigum1309]

yes

[@schwabricks7703]

Does this still work? I’ve been suffering with My house divided for far too long and would love to have it all work via HomeKit

[@EricWelander]

Yes it does! I've switched to the Logitech Circle View Doorbell with HomeKit, but I still control my Nest thermostat with this almost every day.

[@sjbradley98]

cool, another hub, another power socket, another Ethernet cable 🙄🤷‍♂️

[@EricWelander]

Haha yeah...these bridges can make integrations that are reliable, but they come at a cost of port real estate for sure!

[@MacHippy-qk4pr]

lol not for users but GREAT news for Nest/google more money from subscription and over priced storage. and they didnt have to spend a dime on development of the bridge win/win for Nest. funny shit. bridge made by a former nest founder LOL

[@jonathan.sullivan]

I'll stick with Homebridge, thanks.

[@malvinolimit]

@@EricWelander bruh, i love apple ecosystem, but for smart speaker, i use Google home. I hope Google and Apple can integrate, so i can pair my Apple Ecosystem with my Google home Ecosystem.

[@JasonfromMinnesota]

It’s worth it

[@pechorton]

Eric, Great video and thank you for content! I know they are just coming out but do you know if the new Google nest cameras that don’t even work with the Nest App anymore are going to work with some bridge to link to HomeKit? I’m new to this whole home automation but I’m pot committed with Nest and looking to automate more but much more an Apple guy then Google.

[@colin.anderson]

Does this mess with the port where a Plex server lives as well? That was an issue I had with HomeBridge

[@elmaldonado]

I bought this and I am loving it. Very stable and reliable. By the way it’s super fast as well.

[@EricWelander]

That’s great to hear! I agree

[@santosalberto]

Are you also having an issue with audio?

[@martyspamy]

Do you know if there is a way to connect xiaomi camera into HomeKit ?

[@EricWelander]

I think that requires Homebridge but I’m not 100% sure

[@andreiwatts5337]

Will this work with Homekite Apple Cloud storage, where videos can be saved on Apple servers?

[@EricWelander]

No. That is called HomeKit secure video and Nest Cams do not participate in that program even with this new hub integration

[@CoreyMcLaughlin]

I'm curious to know if there are any delays in receiving notifications as compared to straight-up Nest notifications

[@EvanMooreZ]

Corey McLaughlin no delay. I plugged mine in. I get notifications from HomeKit even faster than nest sends them. I have nest notifications turned off now

[@JasonfromMinnesota]

Mine works really well with nest e thermostat ant temperature sensor it never gose into the “NOT RESPONDING ERROR” that meross equipment and my “smart” TVs constantly do

[@Jakepp235]

Question, I have the pro 3, if I use my old 4500 base station in order to use HomeKit, will I lose any features on my pro 3 cameras ?

[@reneb5222]

Does it work with the EU versions of Nest or only the US versions ie Nest Thermostat E?

[@reneb5222]

Made a decision to add HOOBS and the Nest extension in the same Docker instance as Home Assistant. Now everything works great. For details see the HA Forum under Badnest. It's showing Nest Thermostat E and Protect.

[@abdulelahalahmad5249]

Thank you! Q: if i have a device that is connected to my google home account. Can i control it with this thing in apple home app?

[@rstr0up]

Like Nest Hello or Nest Cams? If so, then yes. I have 2 nest indoor cams and a nest hello and I can see video and hear and talk via the Apple Home app with starling installed and running.

[@leigh3850]

Can this hub control my Homepod from my google nest hub? i.e. able to pair my homepod to the nest hub as the default speaker to play music

[@gsti1985]

Hi Eric - Thanks for the info. I have nest at home and already have two bridges (Caseta and Sonos). I’m considering Eufy for door lock and door bell. Do I need to keep adding bridges or can I just get everyone using one bridge? Why don’t they simplify it? I like bridges so I don’t have too many devices on my WiFi. Thanks

[@robertmoore7041]

How can you access home bridge outside your Network? I would asume a VPN would do the trick but it’s inconvenient.

[@tharais]

Through a port on your router.

[@foxseatiger]

Can this work with google home?

[@Arkku]

This is essentially homebridge in a box, but managed by someone else. Cheaper to buy a Raspberry Pi to run Homebridge yourself, but of course it has the additional setup and maintenance hassle, so I understand the willingness to pay for the product that does it for you. However, if something is changed by Google or Apple in such a way that it breaks this integration, the DIY Homebridge setup depends on the community to update things, whereas the Starling hub depends on the company still existing and actively supporting the product. And you lose customisability with the hub, and potentially allow yet another third party to access your home and network (although I would strongly recommend having a separate IoT VLAN anyway, but that's yet another thing that needs setting up).

[@ThePROFESS10NAL]

It really annoys me Apple didn’t integrate with nest early on. I’m stuck in the same situation having purchased about 1000 bucks of nest smoke detectors, cameras and doorbells before google bought it. I want to do the automation and this is kind of a kick in the face. That being said, other than being able to control the temperature with Siri, the rest is unnecessary or useless and can be messed with through the nest app.

[@iasteverichter]

Cool, But still it work when Nest require 2FA ?

[@EricWelander]

Bradley Chambers at 9to5Mac set it up with 2FA and had some initial issues but it worked fine after that: 9to5mac.com/2020/02/02/nest-homekit/

[@stevenwoodworth9966]

When google “highly encouraged” switching from a nest account to a google account I lost my ability to view nest cams through Apple TV. Will this hub allow for camera viewing and alerts on Apple TV like native HomeKit cameras? I know they are supposed to be able to interrupt Apple TV video to alert you someone is at your doorbell and allow you to view the live video feed.

[@EricWelander]

I still use this for my thermostat every day, but I've since switched to a Logitech Circle View for my doorbell. I've heard around the internet that the doorbell alerts work with this, but I can't speak from personal experience there.

[@walterwhite1]

You look like a young Steve Kerr

[@DenisMardan]

hey. i got recommend to watch you from Shane Whatley cause i had a question about this setup you are showing here on the video. how is the sterling hub with the brand new update that was released this week? the one that allows facial integration to be part of homekit. i wonder how it works. can we set homekit to "if x is seen, open door" and all options. is this a planned video by you?

[@EricWelander]

I might not make a video specifically on this, but I will probably address it in an upcoming video

[@santoscolmenero7828]

Thanks Niel Patrick Harris, great vid!

[@EricWelander]

Haha thank you!

[@neilgreene]

I have no idea how anybody uses HOMEKIT. Tried it on Day 1, 10, 100, 200 and again here in 2023. And devices for no reason just go into NO RESPONSE mode. My Liftmaster MyQ bridge was working no less then 20 min ago. Look at Home and what do I see, "No Response". My other home automation from old Insteon, Lutron, HomeAssistant never fail! Just HomeKit!

[@andrewcbartlett]

Your devices need a strong network.

[@6905813]

Hey Eric, did you have your Nest cameras working with Homebridge before Starling? I haven't been able to find a plug-in to work for the cameras yet

[@EricWelander]

No I didn’t. It’s near impossible with HomeBirdge and a big advantage of Starling

[@sulylunat]

Have you tried homebridge-nest-cam? I have been using this plugin since last year for my doorbell and it also works for normal nest cams. If you are familiar with homebridge, you don’t need starling. It’s not quite as easy but saves you money on yet another hub

[@jedwardoo]

Thanks for sharing this product, Eric. I hope the product doesn’t get delayed further beyond March. Would the privacy concern of Google/Nest products now different because it’s passing through HomeKit now?

[@EricWelander]

I don’t think so...my comment is referring to some people who like to avoid Google and their cloud, and also if a camera is streaming video to them, you should understand that. Personally, I love Google and Nest and their cloud and using their stuff on iPhone/iPad/Mac.

[@jedwardoo]

Eric Welander I really thought HomeKit would somehow encrypt it and make it private that Google wouldn’t be able to harvest much data or be limited. That’s great for you. As long as it’s better for your workflow. I’ve switched away from Google products/services. KZbin is the remaining service I still keep with Google.

[@gavinff]

I just like the video and now you have 1000 likes on this video

[@EricWelander]

Woohooo thanks!

[@drdrew3]

Great video. Thorough and well explained

[@sicosico2485]

Love this thing and it is very well made for the price

[@volt_nightroleplayminecraf6998]

For me, the nest app sucks so I like the apple app and I’m hoping this makes it easier to use and automate since we all have iPhones in our family!

[@ModernDayTech]

Great video Eric. I'm impressed with what comes over to Homekit. It's a disappointment that sound doesn't work yet. I'm going to have to check this out cause I'm one of those people who have a few Nest things. Actually, I still have the original Dropcams. Stay warm my friend.

[@EricWelander]

Thanks! OG Dropcams...that’s nice!! They are still great products IMO.

[@philliplanfre347]

Works as it should

[@uniqueflh2941]

Very cool option. Watched the whole video thinking “this sounds great for anyone who has multiple Smart Assistant platforms in their home, but is it worth stepping-out of the ‘HomeKit Only’ box?” Thanks for answering that question before I asked... This is one of the reasons I dig your videos. Thanks again for the upload. Your stuff is always great.

[@EricWelander]

Thanks Bradley

[@abazdarhon]

It will be worth to buy if it not only pair google stuff but for example sonoff too. Otherwise it is not worth to buy just for google.

[@agguerra9106]

No Homebridge but you need to buy another Hub that only integrates Nest to Homekit.. really?

[@Homekitgeek]

Hey Eric! Great video! It’s great that Starling Hub is available now. I went through the Nest Homebridge thing a couple of years ago and ended up replacing my thermo with an Ecobee specific for the Homekit integration. This MIGHT have saved me that. One question I do have which I’m not sure if you know: Does the Starling hub use Google local SDK on these Nest products? One of the things I love about Homekit is the full local control. Most of the homebridge-style integrations are using the accessory vendors Cloud APIs which means that all the traffic is going out to google’s cloud and back. ( Also means that device control would be unavailable for any devices exposed through the Starling hub ). Definitely something I’ll be watching!

[@EricWelander]

Hey Chris! Thanks. I haven’t done a detailed investigation, but my impression from setup is that it’s just talking to Nest in the cloud. The only local part is going to HomeKit.

[@shadow.banned]

Why does Google make users buy a $100 product to use Nest comfortably?

[@_AmericanDad_]

This is just another version of HomeBridge, title is very misleading.

[@seandevlin2404]

Dude... starling is just homebridge but only for nest. Just get a pi and install homebridge.

[@blackcoalboy]

I can’t understand what all this fuss is all about with “HOME AUTOMATION “ Cameras to see who’s at the door etc, Why don’t people get off their ass and just open the dammed door we are a nation of couch potatoes it’s my opinion all this nonsense is making people lazy it’s my bet people are staying in all day waiting for someone to ring the stupid doorbell.

[@cmm566]

Great video

[@conirad]

Nice tapbots shirt! 😏

[@ralphpaine6139]

Another great video. Thanks for the info.

[@viper31415]

Title is misleading. You still need a hub to get the devices to work together. Another accessory to buy. Smh.

[@andrewcbartlett]

I don't have to buy and build a Pi. or mini PC just get this little box (Starling).

[@dmann5938]

Ugh why Google do dis to us

[@Eckline]

I’m afraid to buy it and google change their api and make this thing useless.

[@spencerbigum1309]

Pretty Starling Hub says on their website that they integrate now with the new google accounts under the FAQ.

[@teddyandresjr6467]

Why are your hands so shinny? 🤔

[@EricWelander]

Haha ... lotion because of how dry it gets in the winter here.

[@teddyandresjr6467]

@@EricWelander hahaha.. It's winter here too but my hands are not shinny even with lotion 😬

[@futurepaver2039]

Just get a Honeywell or an Ecobee if you want HomeKit support!!!

[@paul_grimsley]

So, this IS Homebridge, in a box. So Apple Homekit does not now talk to Google Nest without Homebridge. I don't like this kind of disingenuous video naming. Homebridge is great, as are Hap-NodeJS and HassIO integrations with Homekit. They're easier to achieve than most people realise.

[@coletc]

This is irrelevant. Just download the homebridge image, get a pi zero w

[@DOUGMAC]

Sounds like once you connect this to your network your giving access to this third party. Sorry I just wouldn't trust that. NO SALE. GOOD LUCK!

[@angl2375]

Exactly my thoughts!

[@jedwardoo]

❤️ that LEGO dude

[@EricWelander]

Haha thanks! It helps show the scale of size

[@jedwardoo]

Eric Welander oh yeah. I was too focused on the LEGO, I forgot it was meant for comparing the scale of the device. Keep up the fun HomeKit videos, Eric!

[@eb6736]

Lol I’ll just buy a ecobee and sell the nest

[@Mr.Tec01]

hoobs.org....does this and WAY more

[@santosalberto]

G Conger what are you serious? What plugging do I need for it to work? And take advantage of all the features. Because so far I only have nest thermostat and protect. I still need to intrigarte my nest secure.

[@Mr.Tec01]

Santos Del Moral Hoobs.org is homebridge in a box, anything you want connected to homekit, hoobs can do...it does the same thing original video does but includes basically everything not just nest...for example with hoobs you can connect all of ring security with homekit, cameras, doorbell, sensors the whole package....it’s amazing

[@santosalberto]

G Conger I get what it does. I have HOOBS 3 running on a raspberry pi4 and I have the nest plunging that is supposed to be certified with HOOBS. However like I said before I only get the thermostat and nest protect. My question is in regards to getting all the other nest products working like starling home hub? They even have the nest secure working. With that feature I can activate my alarm when I leave home using Siri.

[@Mr.Tec01]

Santos Del Moral if there is no plugin for what ever you want to connect to homekit, then u are screwed

[@santosalberto]

G Conger ok lol I guess this contradicts your original statement that it can do everything ok the video and more.

[@majormaccas]

Apple Hometkit and Google Nest can now talk to each other without homebridge....by buying this $90 device running homebridge. What a complete waste of time.

[@_Chef_]

Fake title

[@bertraminc9412]

You made me laugh when you said trust Apple and google. Wow.

[@flyer2b]

Just a different hub...misleading

[@Josh-my1hm]

Fake news