Apple M3 & M3 Max Review: What it Meant to Be.

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极客湾Geekerwan

极客湾Geekerwan

Күн бұрын

苹果M3来啦!这次我们拿到了基于M3的iMac和基于M3 Max的MacBook Pro 16,深入测试了SPEC、核间延迟、分支预测能力等等指标。苹果这两颗新芯片到底进步有多大?专业软件性能有多强?Mac上能打游戏了吗?今天的视频告诉你答案……

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@vickie_g
@vickie_g 10 ай бұрын
Please keep adding English subtitles. No other channel does indepth testing on mobile SoCs and as an engineer, i find them very interesting.
@ostrichb
@ostrichb 10 ай бұрын
They did added the English subtitles
@sumawardhen198
@sumawardhen198 10 ай бұрын
​@@ostrichbi think vickie means, geekerwan did good job adding english subtitles due the content is very educative and in-depth detail about SoC, and it's not commonly found at other channel. So he's wishing they will keep adding english subtitles in the future because how good the content is
@ThePharaon69
@ThePharaon69 10 ай бұрын
they usually upload english version on their english channel, just wait few days
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 10 ай бұрын
They are the Chinese version of Anandtech deep dive!
@Physbook
@Physbook 10 ай бұрын
a little bit lagging i reckon
@sooto916
@sooto916 10 ай бұрын
I am very happy that they have added English subtitles recently!
@A_ARAFAT
@A_ARAFAT 10 ай бұрын
I Guess it's because since Geekerwan's English channel uploads videos very late that they decided to add subtitle in the CN videos so that people can watch these while waiting for the ENG release
@wyattliu3637
@wyattliu3637 10 ай бұрын
Is English sub that attractive?😂 Glad to see people supporting Chinese Channels
@gxcreator
@gxcreator 10 ай бұрын
​@@wyattliu3637this channel is awesome,but the only ways to watch it without knowing Chinese is subtitles or Yandex Video Translate. Greetings from Russia 😊.
@theolich4384
@theolich4384 10 ай бұрын
@@wyattliu3637 Quality contents warrant what they deserve.
@adamcai1102
@adamcai1102 10 ай бұрын
@@wyattliu3637he’s really great
@broccoli322
@broccoli322 10 ай бұрын
This is a much better review than many other tech channels that either only state opinions or rephrase the information that Apple has already released.
@jychu6805
@jychu6805 14 күн бұрын
$3
@BolusTube
@BolusTube 10 ай бұрын
This is god level of CPU testing. Please keep up the good work. Maybe release English versions too.
@ramjuff2950
@ramjuff2950 10 ай бұрын
they have english subtitles
@AuspiceGwan
@AuspiceGwan 10 ай бұрын
突然想起来了昨天看到好几个视频主都在讲M3 Pro是纯纯的智商税,今天看到极客湾大力赞扬还在奇怪为何意见相悖,突然明白过来这边一直在讲M3 Max如何生猛,而M3 Pro直接“没有样机”,瞬间明白了问题出在了什么地方😂😂看来M3 Pro确实gg了
@jlgg369
@jlgg369 10 ай бұрын
沒有測試就沒有傷害 10/10
@gaobili
@gaobili 10 ай бұрын
有点像40系显卡,高端牙膏挤爆,中低端生怕有一点提升
@user-hp5pb3zs3h
@user-hp5pb3zs3h 10 ай бұрын
看起來M3 M3pro都蠻鳥的,重點完全是那顆M3 Max
@chenmingxu5537
@chenmingxu5537 10 ай бұрын
所以我这个M2 Pro的用户感觉舒爽。
@justinmorxu7682
@justinmorxu7682 3 ай бұрын
那就是說寧可買m2 pro,物美價廉🤣
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 10 ай бұрын
Interesting tests in here no other techtuber really does, like branch prediction error rate. Interesting to see Intel's ring bus is still by a WIDE margin undefeated, they just need new core architectures and a new node to work off, Meteor Lake should get very interesting. The global world is funny eh. My replacement for Anandtech barely posting on time in depth articles anymore is an overseas channel reading subtitles lol.
@zihechen3111
@zihechen3111 10 ай бұрын
LTT suck as, that is why
@spysoos
@spysoos 10 ай бұрын
金子做的“内存和硬盘”
@ipeooc
@ipeooc 10 ай бұрын
屎味巧克力有人吃,巧克力味的屎没人吃,有人买单自然有它的的核心竞争力。
@xiamyphys
@xiamyphys 10 ай бұрын
你瞧瞧现在这哪有内存和硬盘啊,你嫌贵我还嫌贵呢😂
@iVetuz
@iVetuz 10 ай бұрын
哪里贵啦?能不能想想是不是自己的问题,这么多年了工资涨没涨啊
@LVAAA8
@LVAAA8 10 ай бұрын
哪裡貴了?😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉 是中國人不夠努力🎉🎉🎉 不夠努力,讓自己有選票,把俄羅斯的共產黨政權趕出中國, 並讓皇帝下來😂😂😂殺殺殺,把中國都耗光,死光,加油❤習皇
@Po-YunKu-lt3wh
@Po-YunKu-lt3wh 10 ай бұрын
@@iVetuz東西太貴不是他的問題 要先反思一下為什麼自己餘額那麼少
@haploguy
@haploguy 10 ай бұрын
Subscribed!!! So refreshing to see a scientific approach compared to the westoid "content creators". Thanks for the subtitles.
@tianshou5071
@tianshou5071 10 ай бұрын
我就是刚买了96GB 内存的M2MAX, 轻松跑起700亿参数LLM, 为了无压力跑千亿模型,继续盘!五万!
@fufucat4854
@fufucat4854 10 ай бұрын
畢竟吃飯工具😂
@user-ul4lj6cu9b
@user-ul4lj6cu9b 10 ай бұрын
我也是買 96GB 的 M2 Max
@godchoo7693
@godchoo7693 10 ай бұрын
我也是啊,7月才买的96g m2max。背刺得我很痛,所以下单了128g的m3max,然后卖掉m2max,记忆是痛苦的根源,卖了让我忘记背刺之痛。
@kayanli91
@kayanli91 5 ай бұрын
CPU是殘血還是滿血?
@kayanli91
@kayanli91 5 ай бұрын
@@godchoo7693 啥是背刺?
@Adreitz7
@Adreitz7 10 ай бұрын
Great job! I was particularly pleased to see you test Stable Diffusion performance, as this is one of my primary recreational activities with my M2 Max. A ~30% improvement is nothing to sneeze at, though one can dream of 3x performance improvements (maybe if torch optimization improves please please?). Hopefully SDXL performance increases by a similar amount to base SD. My main problem now, though, is the SSD cost vs. the rate at which I'm filling it up with SDXL generations. I have external storage, but it's cumbersome to use. I really wish Apple would make their memory and SSD upgrades more affordable.
@johnnysong9781
@johnnysong9781 10 ай бұрын
等到Mx能够轻松碾压我目前的M1 Max时会考虑从16” Pro “升级换代”到15" Air。Pro太重了,Work from home的时间越来越多,基本当workstation/server用我还不如来一台顶配的mini+一台Air,比当初1台MBP的考虑要实用得多。
@chchhite119
@chchhite119 10 ай бұрын
那如果用mini,你考虑用什么显示器呢?
@saieryip
@saieryip 10 ай бұрын
@@chchhite119asus proart系列 夠用了
@johnnysong9781
@johnnysong9781 10 ай бұрын
@@chchhite119 Samsung NeoG9 49或者57,以前macOS不支持1440p,Sonoma开始支持了。
@chchhite119
@chchhite119 10 ай бұрын
@@johnnysong9781 它用2K显示效果怎样。我现在用1080p的显示器,看起来有点糊
@johnnysong9781
@johnnysong9781 10 ай бұрын
@@chchhite119 Sonoma上比以前有进步,基本不糊了,搭配BetterDisplay使用,但还是不如4K
@jpcyz
@jpcyz 10 ай бұрын
超级棒的评测。不过128G 16核要4999刀,一般人看看就好。 M3Max 16核48G 3999刀,64G 4199刀,3万的售价真不便宜,但是考虑到能耗比,安静型,便携性,综合下来还是很优秀的。 对于最求性价比的,还是觉得13980+4060/4070,或者7945hx+4060/4070,1万-1万5内的售价,才是最香的。不过发挥全性能需要超重的电源,TypeC电源只有一半性能,便携性还是差了些。
@yilu4206
@yilu4206 4 ай бұрын
一般是公司配,个人买家估计就是买个pro了
@chunhung76
@chunhung76 10 ай бұрын
蘋果還是很良心了,沒讓你選配風扇。
@OwO-meow-UwU
@OwO-meow-UwU 10 ай бұрын
電池也給選配好了 我賭蘋果未來一定會出這種東西
@Alan-tq1cr
@Alan-tq1cr 10 ай бұрын
风扇也不值几个钱啊
@user-yu4iv4so6m
@user-yu4iv4so6m 10 ай бұрын
​@@Alan-tq1cr内存现在也不值钱啊!但是一旦搭配苹果的机器你就不得不花高价选配
@OwO-meow-UwU
@OwO-meow-UwU 10 ай бұрын
@@Alan-tq1cr 風扇還好說 畢竟就算幾乎不轉遲早也會積灰 所以有缺點也有優點 但記憶體就真的無恥了 估計毛利不夠高蘋果還不肯賣
@jcfawerd
@jcfawerd 10 ай бұрын
M2 Max / Ultra 的買家現時的心情應該跟買了2020年版Intel Macbook Pro的人一樣了
@XiaNin_0613
@XiaNin_0613 10 ай бұрын
艹!(我就是0202年intel i9 MacBook Pro 16”的用家,三個月後就聽到出了M1) 不過我沒什麼後悔啦,畢竟這是最後一代能拔電滿血玩PUBG的筆電了
@felix199900
@felix199900 10 ай бұрын
我是同時中了末代intel和M2MAX的人...
@HoldenChoi
@HoldenChoi 10 ай бұрын
別提這個傷心事 兩萬買個MacBook Pro下半年就被蘋果用M1鞭屍
@magicryuekimpan
@magicryuekimpan 10 ай бұрын
intel方案,末代可以装win全功率玩3A。不是很亮点?
@esterior7198
@esterior7198 10 ай бұрын
沒進步也抱怨,進步一樣抱怨啊!
@armbear12
@armbear12 10 ай бұрын
看完評測第一個想法是INTEL連牙膏都擠不好
@387ROCK
@387ROCK 10 ай бұрын
永不考慮當盤子 所以根本沒差 CPU還有A家可以玩
@jameswoolf1440
@jameswoolf1440 9 ай бұрын
Intel那个烂牙膏管早就挤得一点不剩了,为了冲高频密度低到离谱,结果同频性能还被各家当作ppt基线,就这扶不起的阿斗还期待他挤牙膏?说白了这垃圾厂再过几年还能不能存在还要打个问号呢
@cyue8862
@cyue8862 10 ай бұрын
期待中的MacBook Pro 的樣子, 金子做的內存和硬盤除外....🤭
@user-xg1re8dy8s
@user-xg1re8dy8s 5 ай бұрын
他的8tb硬碟價格我可以買美光4tb硬碟四塊,真的是金子做的
@user-wi4jb2iq9y
@user-wi4jb2iq9y 10 ай бұрын
M1繼續用,當初兩萬二入手非常夠用。
@MriWRZ
@MriWRZ 4 ай бұрын
M1性價比真的超香
@kinkiyayoutubization
@kinkiyayoutubization 8 ай бұрын
國內很少M3 Pro的評測,YT也不多。不少網友分析,可能是蘋果贊助UP們推Max(因為提升明顯),也可能是UP們遭到了一些間接封鎖不給評測M3 Pro。怎樣也好,蘋果果然是會賺錢,性能提升用在了最昂貴的Max上,用Max來吸引目光。然後被吸引的Mac友們,很多最後因為價格,妥協在提升不大的M3或M3 Pro上。不支持光追的話,其實M3和M3 Pro並沒有比前代提升多少,價格倒是提升很多。官方翻新的M2 Pro 16+512,和M3 8+256 一個價位。大家不妨小心分析後再決定。
@user-ll6vk6kf7z
@user-ll6vk6kf7z 10 ай бұрын
这次的max和pro比黄老贼80和90的刀法都狠😅
@wtommy7395
@wtommy7395 10 ай бұрын
M3 Pro怎么样呢,之后还会做一期视频吗?
@womp6338
@womp6338 10 ай бұрын
I love how I have to view Chinese reviews just to get any interesting testing, and the western reviewers only talk about the colour of the laptop
@PTYC933
@PTYC933 9 ай бұрын
Wasn’t expecting m3 max & pro this year. Expecting them to meet x-elite next year. With the 50% increase core count of the max, it is finally the max chip to match all the crazy performant i9 and r9 multicore prowess. Not just the battery champ of laptops, now a true mini ultra. Really incredible to have ultra level performance in a portable at 50w. Baseline tdp for intel probably already 45w before turbo boost. Guessing m1 & m2 ultra has just dropped in resale value.
@lukeyuan1
@lukeyuan1 10 ай бұрын
刚买了m2 max的Mac studio 苹果你真牛
@HiHi-jy1dj
@HiHi-jy1dj 10 ай бұрын
系統的轉譯效果有限高通跟蘋果要幹掉x86 是很難的,除非微軟做事
@seam911
@seam911 10 ай бұрын
这应该是世界上最专业的评测👍
@matthieuhenocque7824
@matthieuhenocque7824 10 ай бұрын
感谢您的测试 极客湾 Geekerwan!来自法国的问候!
@ipiger1987
@ipiger1987 10 ай бұрын
首发买的M1 Max , 看了心情也不好. 都想换成M3 Max满血版了.
@niceone1456
@niceone1456 10 ай бұрын
感觉没什么普通用户会买吧,工作上有需要的话公司都会发,自己家里用的话又不用这么快的
@jerryhuang3565
@jerryhuang3565 10 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="412">6:52</a> 4GHz跑出別人6GHz的性能....而且兩者推出時間差不多....又比人省電一大截...確實簇溝通效率還不夠高,但是看到後面測試還真發現沒影響,而且Apple這邊進步還是穩穩地推進,從 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="552">9:12</a> 看得出來,多工跟程式工作環境應該還是主要目標,單核心高,很多跑單核的程式都很明顯在Silicon上面跑得異常好,就是第一代m1,寫JS跟一些程式都比我當時12代INTEL好用,而且還沒比較貴。 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="599">9:59</a> 這種GPU提升,目前還不確定好處,不過拿來跑AI確實Silicon意外亮眼。 不過! 看到<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="760">12:40</a> 終於懂了另一層面問題,4060雖然被嫌爛,但她好歹是個 1萬3、115w的顯卡,都能打平了,那真的還是有另一個工作意義,就是跑3D動畫相關,未來玩玩遊戲 (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="941">15:41</a> , <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1147">19:07</a> )都會慢慢沒問題,看<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1275">21:15</a> 不過沒想到能直接轉譯windows遊戲玩,晚點去試試看,不過若沒意外,應該都轉譯不會很好,即便即刻灣這邊有些跑出不錯表現,但那是M3 Max才能幹過4060...。 遠遠超出我預期是 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="864">14:24</a>,這種提升真是太變態了 M3 Max > I9 14900K + 4090 (台式機) ,真是,太誇張了! 過度誇張了! 如果未來慢慢優化,那真的會超出預期吧 不過即刻灣這邊有個地方有點可惜阿,Stable diffusion能跑NPU,就是你不會寫code,也能用現成的,NPU那真病態的快阿
@lumpython5351
@lumpython5351 9 ай бұрын
我在用M1P没发现它有很快,对比iPhone会快一些
@TheAacharge
@TheAacharge 10 ай бұрын
M3 Max 做到了 Intel 自2010年以来梦寐以求的事情:用 核显 替代 中端独显。 Apple 财大气粗出奇迹,反观 Intel 的核显现在还不如 某些 低端独显。 当然,M3 Max 的 MBP 毫无价格优势。
@Sean94587
@Sean94587 10 ай бұрын
不同理念了吧,intel根本沒有想要認真做核顯,早就轉彎獨顯了
@user-yw9ek7nd8i
@user-yw9ek7nd8i 10 ай бұрын
但intel核显的视频解码到现在也是独一档的啊老弟
@jerryhuang3565
@jerryhuang3565 10 ай бұрын
其實intel取代顯卡的想法,在2005~2006年間是AMD先提出APU,APU理想上就是同一個核心內CPU跑整數,而GPU跑浮點,並且讓記憶體共用運算結果,相互調用,後面FX也是用了這精神去嘗試,只是當時AMD還沒併購ATI,所以就一路停滯到INTEL都做出來,然而無論AMD或INTEL都沒成功做到公用運算資源,是M1才真的意義上的成功做出這項功能,說到底,純粹搞硬體的,最終還是差在軟體層面做得好不好的問題,AMD跟INTEL某種程度上也是敗在windows的技術水平限制上,windows拉垮的程度,就是相對M1提早這麼多年就進場ARM,到現在還做不好,都十年了,一個公司能擺爛到這種程度也真是服了。
@mayeths2728
@mayeths2728 10 ай бұрын
钞能力
@user-uc7sl6yy3c
@user-uc7sl6yy3c 10 ай бұрын
有鈔能力卻沒有認真做吧,蘋果是兩個都有。
@KmfilmAt
@KmfilmAt 5 ай бұрын
thanks for testing, although I don't understand a word, the scores speak for themselves, good work!
@jcfawerd
@jcfawerd 5 ай бұрын
You can turn on English subtitles
@WEN-PIN
@WEN-PIN 10 ай бұрын
期待M3 iPad pro出現啊 不知道什麼時候出
@jerry9527
@jerry9527 10 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1162">19:22</a> 好喜歡聽這樣加重「干掉」語氣
@monkeyfish227
@monkeyfish227 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Great video
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky 7 ай бұрын
The fact that it speed blitzed through both M1 Ultra and M2 Ultra at nearly half the core counts is mind blowing. Single threaded performance also insane where Intel mobile offering don’t even stand a chance.
@dpptd30
@dpptd30 5 ай бұрын
看來大內存帶寬基本上完全彌補了CPU核間延遲在遊戲裡面的劣勢,CPU性能看來目前的確要看內存帶寬,M3 Max達到7800X3D級別的遊戲性能是挺出乎預料的。
@niafasas
@niafasas 10 ай бұрын
哎呀呀,这位主持人大哥要注意控制体重呀😊三分在动,七分在吃🎉
@wangjialei1985
@wangjialei1985 4 ай бұрын
确实,很喜欢两位主播,但是确实,大哥脸上的“肝斑”很严重。
@chaunceykao
@chaunceykao 10 ай бұрын
指甲划黑板 绝了,我也是这个感觉
@user-dp8dr4wl8z
@user-dp8dr4wl8z 9 ай бұрын
Wow. That is even deeper dive in then we have been used from Anandtech in past. Could you look on claim that some GPU functions perform worse when unplugged. Probably raytracing. Thanks
@binac
@binac 10 ай бұрын
希望出一个对比X Elite的视频
@sun1985
@sun1985 10 ай бұрын
可以評測一下 m3 max在 14吋的表現如何?
@nimajamalian
@nimajamalian 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic reviews!
@lumpython5351
@lumpython5351 10 ай бұрын
最无语的是苹果又在画大饼,最早苹果宣传渲染的时候还是Intel时期,说找了AMD定制GPU RadeonPro,AMD 出了ProRender渲染器,结果这玩意几乎不可用,十分不稳定,M1又宣传一波,找了Octane,结果到了今天依旧不稳定,升级到Sonoma发现已经不能用了,一看发布会明白了,又找了Redshift,新的Sonoma内存使用暴涨,开机后5G没了,然后居然还给乞丐版还给8G
@00yy62
@00yy62 10 ай бұрын
丐版Pro給8G Ram就真的離譜了⋯⋯
@xtacotimex
@xtacotimex 10 ай бұрын
記得 Sonoma 的內存使用方式好像有變動,可能不能直接用使用量判斷🤔
@lumpython5351
@lumpython5351 10 ай бұрын
@@xtacotimex 这个说法每年一次,这又不是Android手机,Big Sur 开始内存使用爆涨,到了Monterey是最多的,Ventura 降了不少,然后Sonoma居然开倒车,macOS 有个命令purge可以手动清内存,purge之后依然不少,说明系统本身就是要用那么多
@jac8705
@jac8705 10 ай бұрын
用了10几年的苹果,一直觉得苹果生态好,现在慢慢的又喜欢安卓的开放性了,不知道有多少和我一样的
@user-hf9zv1cp5f
@user-hf9zv1cp5f 10 ай бұрын
7z提升也不算小了,内存子系统可能也做了比较大的变化。
@user-hk2fj8zx6w
@user-hk2fj8zx6w 10 ай бұрын
市場就那麼大 橫向發展賺更多!至少電腦端出現來自蘋果的威脅會有警覺不再是獨大
@bill312r
@bill312r 10 ай бұрын
我就想知道 M3 PRO 6個效能核心 在低功效的設定下 加上 16寸的大電池 續航有沒有很強 极客湾Geekerwan 能在拿到機後測一下嗎
@realblack177
@realblack177 10 ай бұрын
持平之前M2
@bill312r
@bill312r 10 ай бұрын
請問有M2 低功效 續航 測試的影片嗎? @@realblack177
@taolawrence
@taolawrence 10 ай бұрын
我想到M5左右就應該跟RTX 5080有得比了
@user-ss3yd3qk6x
@user-ss3yd3qk6x 10 ай бұрын
冷知识m芯片是集显,大小和i9 13代差不多
@sikfunglai7885
@sikfunglai7885 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ss3yd3qk6x 我查到的訊息是13900k 257mm square, m2 max 550mm square, 差一倍。 對了, 老王的筆記本4080 是294mm square, 所以13900hx+4080 laptop 和 m2 max 的晶體尺寸是一樣的, m3 max 加了CPU 核心會更大
@user-ol9ut3xd2z
@user-ol9ut3xd2z 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ss3yd3qk6x cpu gpu不就是焊在一起么。。amd给主机出的专供ps xbox不是一只是这样 然后公用显存控制。。 但是至少还是钉是钉铆是铆 不是cell那种cpugpu融合就不错了,以后真要是in联手弄个x86焊在一起也不是不行 不是得加米么还怎么赚米 。
@OwO-meow-UwU
@OwO-meow-UwU 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ss3yd3qk6x哪款m處理器 要說清楚
@user-gk4se9hc5v
@user-gk4se9hc5v 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ss3yd3qk6x 你这应该算是热知识,不过如果以苹果强大的研发能力,出个独显,那可能没有NV什么事了
@user-gb2bm4cv2t
@user-gb2bm4cv2t 10 ай бұрын
你这个是新发布的纯黑色吗容易留指纹吗
@user-og1cy5xj1x
@user-og1cy5xj1x 10 ай бұрын
感觉14寸的满血M3 MAX性能发挥不出来,M3 Pro又反向升级,残血版M3 Max可能比较适合14寸
@cycnyns7448
@cycnyns7448 10 ай бұрын
m1max那時候就是這樣設定ㄌ
@zx5337
@zx5337 8 ай бұрын
能不能公布一下多核Delay的测试方法,借鉴一下?
@yz5648
@yz5648 10 ай бұрын
今年给我再次选择,我也选择m2系列,这代纯用金钱堆起来的性能提升
@jerryxiao6917
@jerryxiao6917 9 ай бұрын
我還是繼續使用2019年初買的 A1708,i5 的MACBOOK PRO 4個TB3的機器設備吧~ 就只是娛樂 文書而已。
@steven211t
@steven211t 8 ай бұрын
其實我一直對核間延遲一直有疑問 資料不會在cpu核心間搬來搬去 多工時任務指派了 這條流水線就跑到完 這樣核間延遲降低 對甚麼應用比較有幫助
@liang5345
@liang5345 9 ай бұрын
M3 MAX把我看呆了,这还是MacBook吗,苹果真是干了一票大的
@crearg8259
@crearg8259 10 ай бұрын
16寸拉满功耗就是得能让风扇转起来才合理,像M1 Max的Mac Studio跑满CPU和GPU结果风扇还在1200,感觉就是空有一身功夫无用武之地。
@zq9813
@zq9813 10 ай бұрын
未来10年的开模 哈哈
@chchhite119
@chchhite119 10 ай бұрын
@@zq9813 请问开模是什么梗啊? 视频里提到的什么摸具一愣一愣的
@BillyBenz
@BillyBenz 9 ай бұрын
對玩遊戲和創作有極高要求的根本用不了筆記本 14900K + 4090 + 128GB DDR5 ram 這樣配搭任何筆記本都是望塵莫及
@user-gb2bm4cv2t
@user-gb2bm4cv2t 10 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="600">10:00</a> CPU满载两代MAX风扇都不转好安静,怎么突然又变成了分别为2200和4000转,理解不了,这是前后不一致,意思并不安静,越用噪音越大吗,日常使用风扇转吗
@combustion2479
@combustion2479 10 ай бұрын
什麼時候測評MacBook pro
@sergey_serebro
@sergey_serebro 9 ай бұрын
Do you guys know if they comapred to PC 4090 and 4060 or with laptop version of those videocards?
@LaphinJoepan
@LaphinJoepan 10 ай бұрын
總結 就算能打遊戲價格會是一大問題,毫無性價比可言只能給那種有錢沒地方花的人用了
@user-huahuahua
@user-huahuahua 10 ай бұрын
价差可以买多少游戏?😂
@LaphinJoepan
@LaphinJoepan 10 ай бұрын
@@user-huahuahua 光是那金價的ram跟SSD 3A應該可以買個兩三款了🤣 噢!不 可能不只喔🤣🤣🤣
@user-fu3yh1ty5q
@user-fu3yh1ty5q 10 ай бұрын
我突然有一種想法 蘋果的 gaming porting toolkit 會不會也能在vision pro 上面?
@iiiiishida
@iiiiishida 10 ай бұрын
未出先擔心大家的頸椎
@ryansheng427
@ryansheng427 10 ай бұрын
系统都不一样,而且gptk现在还是开发人员移植工具,一时半会儿不会有。等苹果大力布局vr游戏怕是直接基于arm了,可能直接放弃移植了,win端拿得出手的vr也屈指可数
@zzzwinWin0905
@zzzwinWin0905 10 ай бұрын
林捂捂的锐评真的很好笑哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
@Beagle5ce
@Beagle5ce 10 ай бұрын
科技界的相声大师
@kjc1469
@kjc1469 10 ай бұрын
苹 這個字下面有M3 我一直想著"菜果"是甚麼? 於是進來了
@yimingchang2719
@yimingchang2719 10 ай бұрын
輕薄本廠家能不能加加油讓MacBook 別囂張成這樣子,領先到亂喊價都沒轍😅
@danielhao123
@danielhao123 9 ай бұрын
主要是微軟擺爛吧Windows爛泥扶不上牆
@jamesedwards6438
@jamesedwards6438 10 ай бұрын
一直很想用自己的 Mac 玩遊戲 如果能不用設定 GPTK 就能玩 那真的很不錯
@mikayule
@mikayule 10 ай бұрын
视频里有讲到,现在只需要下载一个Whisky就可以了,愿意付费的话,CrossOver也已经实装了D3DMetal的选项
@xavhow
@xavhow 10 ай бұрын
印證了我的猜測,速度都放在MAX上了,基本款和Pro實在沒看頭,這不就是貧富差距擴大嗎?幸好我沒等M3 MBA了。轉買Framework 13 Ryzen 7840,或許我損失點續航和低溫,但荷包省下不少。
@harrytsang1501
@harrytsang1501 10 ай бұрын
With this level of performance will the M3 max be on the sanctioned list like 4090?
@zizjzjjsjsj
@zizjzjjsjsj 10 ай бұрын
nah, the sanction is for AI
@impc8265
@impc8265 10 ай бұрын
bruh it's nowhere near the 4090
@terryjoun1687
@terryjoun1687 10 ай бұрын
不會,除非蘋果有多ultra並行運算的方案,才有可能等效4090及以上晶片的ai訓練能力(LLM),M系列雖強但頂多運行ai而已,還不到能訓練的程度
@user-gk4se9hc5v
@user-gk4se9hc5v 10 ай бұрын
以苹果的研发能力,研发出超越4090性能算力的显卡,问题应该不大。也许苹果现在已经在秘密研发了,苹果真是一个非常伟大的企业!
@user-be2qd1qc6r
@user-be2qd1qc6r 10 ай бұрын
希望以後MacBook 的模具不要像Mac mini 一樣過了這麼久毫無變化🥹
@ethanpan7163
@ethanpan7163 10 ай бұрын
能不能多测几个游戏,原神走Play Cover跑个iPadOS版, 然后2077我记得有更好的转译方法,走Crossover用插件装Game porting toolkit 最新版,然后测一下CS GO之类的
@user-im2fn2wq9y
@user-im2fn2wq9y 10 ай бұрын
臭打遊戲的應該不會考慮這玩意,不如跟跟開發者說你開發一輪省一分鐘 開發者算了算1000輪省1000分鐘,效率激增,買了
@wakeovo4889
@wakeovo4889 10 ай бұрын
没那么多时间,人家还要测试天玑芯片的
@kohjianzher9088
@kohjianzher9088 10 ай бұрын
额,为什么要跑ipad版的原神啊,对m系列来说根本没压力啊,只是一个 ios版原神然后拉去2k而已
@ZhiHong0626
@ZhiHong0626 10 ай бұрын
@@kohjianzher9088 沒有mac版的原神
@kohjianzher9088
@kohjianzher9088 10 ай бұрын
@@ZhiHong0626 可以用playcover这个东西玩ipad版的原神,我自己就是用这个玩的
@AlexLing
@AlexLing 10 ай бұрын
233我有点想买个这玩意儿玩playcover了。。。现在用的M1 Pro手游开的多了CPU就力不从心
@timchong8899
@timchong8899 10 ай бұрын
感觉这次 m3 max系列突然空降纯粹是为了打击明年中即将推出的 x elite。至少现在暂时稳住了股价但也苦了不少刚入手 m2 的消费者们
@XiaNin_0613
@XiaNin_0613 10 ай бұрын
M系列的Mac從來都是差不多時間發佈的,他們只能怪自己沒看清楚日期(或者太心急等不了)了
@zq9813
@zq9813 10 ай бұрын
有可能这个max本来是残血版ultra?然后临时改了名字 哈哈
@l_y366j
@l_y366j 10 ай бұрын
M系列通常一年半左右更新一次,不是什麼突然空降,更不是什麼為了打擊高通= =蘋果在電腦晶片上根本沒把高通當對手。那些買m2的是沒關注消息或是急用而已
@user-gb2bm4cv2t
@user-gb2bm4cv2t 10 ай бұрын
请评测MAX的噪音风扇转速和电池电量消耗怎么样
@realblack177
@realblack177 10 ай бұрын
影視颶風有測
@Notacet
@Notacet 10 ай бұрын
That is a seriously well done and detailed video👏🏼
@timtim997
@timtim997 10 ай бұрын
苹果是不是放弃27寸iMac 了吗 ?拆开来卖?显示屏和Mac mini?
@wangjialei1985
@wangjialei1985 4 ай бұрын
海外媒体有资料公布,苹果截至目前没有任何计划会推出27寸的iMac,虽然其实我也曾经等来着。昨天,我下单了M3 iMac,配合24G unified memory。后来看了很多英文资料的意思,苹果现在其实有很清晰的产品线分类,把普通用户和专业用户在所有领域进行区分,甚至是iPhone。其实想想看,对于专业用户来说,iMac是非常不合算的,M系列处理器,可能2-3年就是一代的差距了,要经常更新,最简单的办法就是换机器本体,比如Mac mini或者Mac Studio,而显示器明明好得很无需更换,比如买一个Studio Display或者XDR Pro Display。27寸iMac,对于很多家用环境其实是不必要的,比如一个中学生。真正需要做生产力工具的话,直接买机器本体+显示器,这才是长久以来,专业用户的诉求。至于27寸iMac的普通用户,虽然也有,但不值得苹果专门弄一个产品线来支持。
@wilson3215
@wilson3215 10 ай бұрын
沒幾個人會買Mac只為打遊戲的,頂配的價格都買到4090的筆記本
@YWang-on3cj
@YWang-on3cj 9 ай бұрын
3D开发还是快的
@user-kv9xv8fg1l
@user-kv9xv8fg1l 10 ай бұрын
M1 MAX繼續用,M5或6再來換
@theolich4384
@theolich4384 10 ай бұрын
等换模具吧
@qrviokaven4580
@qrviokaven4580 10 ай бұрын
没什么可意外的,软硬结合的威力本该如此,真正令人意外的是最需要软硬结合的游戏平台居然被Winel+N这套方案垄断了这么多年。
@t0111469
@t0111469 10 ай бұрын
當你不想升級整台電腦,只想換張顯卡時就知道為啥要分開了
@t0111469
@t0111469 10 ай бұрын
然後...有在做開發的都會懂為啥是wntel+n,更別說apple家常年來的封閉性與專屬性的問題,後期apple自己發現不對,還乖乖地上了apple專用的office呢
@xu5949
@xu5949 10 ай бұрын
winel+n可没有ps5赚钱
@zq9813
@zq9813 10 ай бұрын
@@xu5949 所以mac平台挺有前途?封闭系统更容易赚钱,跟ios游戏差不多
@user-ee6gx1lz3i
@user-ee6gx1lz3i 10 ай бұрын
人家系统兼容性好,下沉用户更多,就和安卓一样,我能几百块买部安卓正品机,你能几百块买苹果正品机吗?
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 10 ай бұрын
They are the best in the business!
@cookielin1653
@cookielin1653 10 ай бұрын
沒想到竟然沒有測一下gptk 轉譯的原神 太可惜了😂
@homurak8
@homurak8 10 ай бұрын
hahaha so true
@gengjiawen
@gengjiawen 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@luisl117
@luisl117 10 ай бұрын
这年头内存和硬盘都便宜好多 可苹果😂还是高高在上
@cellphonehistorian1491
@cellphonehistorian1491 10 ай бұрын
科技评测就服你
@user-ut9qc5vw1y
@user-ut9qc5vw1y 10 ай бұрын
关键续航还是一如即往的无敌😂
@user-ut9qc5vw1y
@user-ut9qc5vw1y 6 ай бұрын
@user-ho9zw7zc9q关键你5个小时到处找电源,人家不用呀,
@reznikovpaul6217
@reznikovpaul6217 5 ай бұрын
现在最好买M3,用几年都非常OK
@Aspstntw123
@Aspstntw123 10 ай бұрын
模具:我可以戰未來
@royhuang4782
@royhuang4782 10 ай бұрын
高级黑
@user-nu9wp2ck8q
@user-nu9wp2ck8q 10 ай бұрын
很不错 我用微软
@keroppikeroppi6572
@keroppikeroppi6572 6 ай бұрын
那還會有M3 Ultra嗎?
@user-gb2bm4cv2t
@user-gb2bm4cv2t 10 ай бұрын
4000转风扇不安静以后噪音越来吗
@cfaf-ct9xl
@cfaf-ct9xl 10 ай бұрын
所以,推荐买吗😂强烈要求加入matlab性能测试
@benchouchc7
@benchouchc7 10 ай бұрын
這代GPU的通用性能效果然不太好 很符合A17PRO的表現 看來想要星巴克打3A只能期待高通的大規模核顯了 希望能有
@wakeovo4889
@wakeovo4889 10 ай бұрын
你弄反了吧,高通核显和m芯片性能差不多,完全比不过m芯片的pro max,高通芯片是要扩展显卡用的
@bu3bu4
@bu3bu4 10 ай бұрын
可是 Windows ARM版的游戏兼容性也是一言难尽
@benchouchc7
@benchouchc7 10 ай бұрын
@@wakeovo4889 那是因為高通只給一倍規模的740 要是搞個8倍規模的750那性能簡直不敢想 要知道750的能效是捶爆A17PRO的GPU的 而且M3X的GPU也沒有前者的8倍
@ryansheng427
@ryansheng427 10 ай бұрын
现在的m2max已经可以70瓦功耗跑战争雷霆了,我觉得已经可以星巴克打3a了
@coderma430
@coderma430 10 ай бұрын
@@bu3bu4 微软做arm系统估计像做Windows phone一样,到处都是坑
@BrickHeadBro
@BrickHeadBro 10 ай бұрын
为什么不把笔记本最强u r9-7945hx也拿出来对比
@zihechen3111
@zihechen3111 10 ай бұрын
因为多核被13980hx爆杀
@zihechen3111
@zihechen3111 10 ай бұрын
单核更不用谈,7945hx就一电子垃圾😂
@brightya
@brightya 10 ай бұрын
转译相当于模拟器吗?
@wuhaoecho
@wuhaoecho 10 ай бұрын
是的
@user-xs3rz1jj4i
@user-xs3rz1jj4i 10 ай бұрын
想問mac上面 arm window11 可以無腦運行x86了嗎? 或是虛擬window x86
@gywghhb
@gywghhb 5 ай бұрын
可以用CrossOver或者Whisky模拟x86的Windows程序
@Chidorin
@Chidorin 10 ай бұрын
Интересно, что в 4к в БГ3 примерно такие же показатели как и в М3 МАХ, наверно что-то урезали, что бы было различие между M3 Max и M3 Ultra
@VolatilityEdgeRunner
@VolatilityEdgeRunner 10 ай бұрын
M3 PRO的测试呢
@kouichinagase8915
@kouichinagase8915 10 ай бұрын
转译能运行GALGAME吗?
@npolarity6190
@npolarity6190 10 ай бұрын
内存条也有影响的吧
@jjentertainentertainendles5675
@jjentertainentertainendles5675 9 ай бұрын
性能再高,应用如何
@Tomeevent
@Tomeevent 10 ай бұрын
比b站发的早啊
@hanson2328
@hanson2328 10 ай бұрын
B站审核时间长!
吹牛还是真牛?苹果M1全网最硬核评测(上)
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