Quite a few people are rushing in to say there’s no issue at all and you have to poke hard or punch the iPad like a punching bag to get this to happen. Meanwhile, the video shows it repeatedly rocking with relatively light pressure. Which is true??? Well, I’m sitting here typing this on my new M4 iPad Pro 13 with the Magic Keyboard. I can honestly say both are amazing, but… the issue is real. It’s true that you can avoid the rocking by using light, gentle pressure, or keeping one hand on the Magic Keyboard or behind the iPad or by keeping it a more upright position (closer to 90 degrees). But putting it in the most comfortable viewing angle for me and applying just a little too much pressure without using your other hand to stabilize and IT WILL ROCK backwards causing the front of the keyboard to lift a bit. With strong hands, a multi-touch gesture in particular could easily generate sufficient force. BTW, the Magic Keyboard for iPad 13 inch is $349, not $300 so it stings even a bit more to have to be careful to avoid this flaw. They could have made the hinge flush. I’m still within the return period, so considering my options from little rubber feet to returning.
@mamaboy11216 ай бұрын
So what? It’s all nitpicking at this point. They’ll still make money regardless 😂😂😂
@MikeG1111_5 ай бұрын
@@mamaboy1121 People deciding what tools they want to bring into their lives have every right to consider all opinions and to nitpick about details-especially when spending this much money LOL. So for me, even though the issue is real, it ended up not being a big enough deal to overcome all the things I really like about this new Magic Keyboard. But I understand people who feel it's a deal breaker as well as those who think it's a nothingburger. That's life! Yes, Apple is obviously making money despite this issue. But that's a different topic IMO.
@mamaboy11215 ай бұрын
@@MikeG1111_ I understand what you're saying, but there are too many options out there if you feel like this is an issue. I would go to a Ferrari dealership and complain about there cars if Lexus has better options. As I said, Apple will continue being Apple with or without your dollar.
@vasiovasio7 ай бұрын
Well, when Apple hired people from the Boeing QA department, this was the result! 😂😂😂
@hou9507 ай бұрын
This made me laugh, thanks for that 😂
@TheOfficialOriginalChad7 ай бұрын
QA validates assembly to specifications. The engineers designed it this way, so it would pass QA. I guess Boeing and you have something in common: you have no idea what QA is.
@riccphoto7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Paradoxical1247 ай бұрын
@@hou950I’m sorry.
@T101076 ай бұрын
Lmaoooo 😭😂😂 Boeing isn’t catching any breaks ☠️
@franciscoferod19987 ай бұрын
I can confirm that it doesn’t happen with the 11” one
@mentalman13697 ай бұрын
As in the M4 11” Pro with this new keyboard is fine?
@franciscoferod19987 ай бұрын
@@mentalman1369 yeah. I have the m4 11” with the new keyboard and it doesn’t happen with that one
@NicVandEmZ7 ай бұрын
@@franciscoferod1998 Test something that new iPad Pro works In the old version of keyboard case with modifications because the smart connection is the same
@justin48617 ай бұрын
@@NicVandEmZ although it has same smart connection, the magnet distribution is different so it doesn't stay on the right place
@raeesshaik15167 ай бұрын
Might have to do with the weight of the 13” as well. Since the 11” isn’t showing the same rocking gate issue
@SkottiKimble7 ай бұрын
I have a 13" and haven't noticed, but I freely admit, I do have a light touch, as I know I don't need to poke it hard to get it to work.
@Footballlife7303 ай бұрын
It is a setting you can go to settings and type touch to click and enable that option
@rp67827 ай бұрын
If Steve Jobs would have tried this out before production, he would’ve thrown it out a window and say “this is shit, start over”. He was an ass but he knew what a good product was.
@entezami7777 ай бұрын
Nah, most of the good design was because of Jonny Ives. Steve was annoying idiot who wanted to keep the iPhone at 3.5in. Womp womp
@bbajr7 ай бұрын
jobs would not have agreed to keyboard or pencil in the first place. i dunno why people still idolize jobs so much
@eldritchbeauty7 ай бұрын
Jobs would have done no such thing. The man was a marketer, not a designer or an engineer. You give that man credit for work he didn't do.
@MasoomRana7 ай бұрын
Didn't Apple (under Jobs) release an iPhone that wouldn't get on a cellular network?
@rp67827 ай бұрын
@@eldritchbeauty he literally threw the first iPod into a fish tank, saw bubbles come out of it and said to his team “make it smaller” So you are wrong
@syzygy527112 күн бұрын
Mine doesn’t do that unless i push extra hard and try to knock it over. It almost feels like there’s some sort of a suction effect on the table - for example if i try to tip it over, it feels like there’s bottom is sticking to the table slightly.
@Rishi.Rao.7 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Hate the new Keyboard. Also it sits lower and the viewing angle is way further away, and the metal hinge scratches everything. Last years was perfect. Need to return it and find a good third party alternative now.
@andrewdecarlesАй бұрын
It’s not that bad tbh, and most people are using it for on the go. If you tap anything hard enough it will make the same motion, also remember the tablet part is a bit heavier when docked so it’s to be expected with the shift in weight. 😊
@DeAeolus7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I am wondering if the new aluminium keyboard would scratch the display?
@goatapp8965Ай бұрын
If someone can make a rubber foot for the hinge, we could fix this problem!
@esisolina7 ай бұрын
My 11" Pro with the new Magic keyboard works perfect with min rocking just like the older magic keyboard. The only difference is that this new keyboard is much better in every way. The hinge gap is correct as you say but honestly no issue with its use
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
I don't think anything could convince you that for $300, this is not acceptable
@RageOfAThousandSuns7 ай бұрын
The keyboard is fine. Your desk is just holding it wrong.
@respect3867 ай бұрын
Hooooooow did they not catch this
@arielspalter74257 ай бұрын
In addition to this, I saw someone else complain that you cannot open the iPad with a single hand like the MacBooks because the hinges are too stiff.
@fracturedmind8124Ай бұрын
I mean if I have it in the Magic Keyboard I’m going to use the trackpad as often as possible. So it’s rare that I’m actually interacting with the screen when it’s in the keyboard.
@lukemac12567 ай бұрын
It wobbles more, yes. But is it a bis deal? When I use the Magic Keyboard, I normally don‘t touch the screen very often anymore.
@PSKuddel7 ай бұрын
I just tried in my local Apple Store and it‘s actually not that bad, if you use it as a touch screen and not as a punching bag. And on the 11 inch version the issue is even smaller and really neglectable for everyone. The overall built of the new Magic Keyboards has significantly improved compared to the previous versions though (which weren‘t bad at all) at they now feel absolutely on par with the keyboard of a regular Macbook to me. So, contrary to this short video, the new Magic Keyboards are actually the biggest improvements of them all, I would say.
@federaldelii7 ай бұрын
Yes this guy hits the ipad as if hitting to enemy at war 😂😂
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
@@federaldelii for $300 it's still unacceptable
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
I believe that you're the type of person that marketing just grapes all day.
@izhangt37877 ай бұрын
I got a surface pro doesnt do that😅
@sly27920047 ай бұрын
now try sitting it on your lap and see if it still tips over without any touching
@lululemon04247 ай бұрын
just get a wireless keyboard and a mice. for a lot cheaper price and keep a overall lighter profile
@micheleann17377 ай бұрын
The 13" air is probably the worst that I've seen in person. It doesn't hold the iPad well. This is a problem when people use these in their laps.
@BillThrash7 ай бұрын
100% agreed this is a tough design flaw.
@ozmanoshe7 ай бұрын
Good catch.
@billyponsonby7 ай бұрын
Is the problem with the larger iPads only? Is the 10.9in okay?
@TimKeh3 ай бұрын
Does the new Magic Keyboard (w function keys) fit the M1 iPad Pro?
@bob_kazamakis7 ай бұрын
“The line between them is blurring” No it’s not. One is a computer than you can have full access to and run whatever you want. The other is a toy hobbled by its OS for any greatness it could have because running software outside the App Store must be a “security risk”
@MarwaziSiagian7 ай бұрын
It’s actually annoying to have the hinge uncovered too
@turtlesbeturtin10753 ай бұрын
It is the downside, for sure. The upside is vast and the experience is better than a MacBook for my use case. I use it as a main device in and out of work day in day out since it launched and it’s been basically perfect aside from that one flaw. If the table isn’t perfectly flat it rocks. On a flat surface it’s pretty good, though.
@cornyleus6 ай бұрын
This is THE reason I’m not upgrading from iPad Air with Smart Folio keyboard. Such a shame because I want the better screen and speakers
@velvetthundr7 ай бұрын
the Smart Keyboards were the most stable and fun to type on.
@RenFlames7 ай бұрын
Wow it’s like nobody tested it or something 😭 omg
@MarkEvans57 ай бұрын
Biggest issue isn’t when it’s open… the biggest problem is trying to open the Magic Keyboard… the Comcast point between the screen and keyboard is too smooth. There’s nowhere to grab to pull it open… Plus, the metal hinge makes it impossible to use the friction of a table top to help open when it’s laying flat…. The iPad just slides away from you…
@stevewoodyt7 ай бұрын
I’m convinced they do this crap on purpose. All the r&d they do and stuff ends up like this. Example: the charge port on the bottom of that mouse. They did that just so people would talk about it.
@joelstroud94347 ай бұрын
Why would they make the keyboard base thinner and lighter than the iPad? Makes no sense.
@KoyoKyon7 ай бұрын
Confused... So the magic keyboard for the 11 inch is ok but rhe 13 inch is a no go?
@jaredweiman29877 ай бұрын
I can't speak for the 13", but my 11" is fine.
@Nemlv7 ай бұрын
literally returned mine day 2 for the 11”
@Nemlv7 ай бұрын
apple has fallen very far
@gordleyt6 ай бұрын
@@Nemlvlmao i promise they are doing just fine
@A7ei67 ай бұрын
You need the solution? Apple will sell it for additional $500 later. Take it or leave it, typical Apple core competencies.
@joelmulder7 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand how this shit gets past QC and into production.
@GTerracciano_7 ай бұрын
Uh oh. You got Cook biting his knees somewhere in the corner playing REM 😂
@aretandkjaiebke83427 ай бұрын
you expected too much from Apple haha. Steve Jobs is no longer around, you couldnt expect the same brain apples used to have
@carlostorres2716 ай бұрын
As a work around you can Velcro tape your desk and stop using it at Starbucks
@user338rj7 ай бұрын
physics, rotation radius, etc… for 13 inch one makes sense
@autumnicleaf6 ай бұрын
You can stop them from rocking, but you need to fold a few hundred-dollar bills and place those underneath the keyboard.
@ericroberts73807 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s a huge deal but you do have to touch with force to get it to rock. Never had this issue with the prior model
@shuggfilmzandstudio23547 ай бұрын
Dude is paid by 3rd party accessory companies, so he has to shit on any accessories from Apple just to promote the 3rd party ones without logic. First of all, what he didn't think of is that you do not need to touch the screen if you have the keyboard. If you will be touching your screen that much, then you don't need the keyboard.
@AzrealJ7 ай бұрын
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354that’s a completely anecdotal response, start saying I instead you bud. I actually touch the screen and so do others when it’s docked 🤯
@shuggfilmzandstudio23547 ай бұрын
@@AzrealJ Then in that case you don't need keyboard. Sell it to me I give you $100 for it, seems like you have an unusual tendency to buy shit you don't need that's unlike you.
@AzrealJ7 ай бұрын
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 are you stupid? Wait till you figure out some laptops have touchscreens and keyboards attached… crazy right
@tonythetitan_1Ай бұрын
Had it for almost a month now. Don’t even notice it.
@Tealtealr7 ай бұрын
Apple the pinnacle of looking at the perfection of each products.. my foot
@teymurjanbakhshiyev26107 ай бұрын
Same issue with m4 11 inch? Or only 13?
@ProgressivelyIndependent3 ай бұрын
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
@ProgressivelyIndependent3 ай бұрын
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
@tolgaa26137 ай бұрын
İt gets worse when your using it on your bed
@Mawuli_Manei7 ай бұрын
I don’t know why you’re poking your screen but it’s supposed to be a touch. Remember??
@BioticElite7 ай бұрын
Tell me you got paid by Samsung without telling me you got paid by them. I have the 13 inch with the keyboard. I have two actually both don’t do this. I also don’t aggressively touch my iPad. Just the normal pressure
@narutobroken7 ай бұрын
Does this happen on the 11” or just the 13”
@sushmitghosh8497 ай бұрын
Touch, dont push
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
With a glass screen protector, you'll push....
@lostkhaz7 ай бұрын
They forgot
@sublimechimpАй бұрын
Apple's stupidity has gone from annoying to unacceptable in a lot of cases
@lacharmer4417 ай бұрын
Apple should hire you!
@tabithaowens3487 ай бұрын
Hey so random but the company Verizon promoted for their Bluetooth apple iPad Pro keyboard like don’t exist. I had a crap ton of issues with this keyboard…it was a gift and I have only had it like 6 months. Anyone know how to get either a replacement or a in contact with the company? Verizon obviously isn’t helpful….and the keyboard was like 200+ bucks.
@jyothiss37287 ай бұрын
That whole division probelmble getting fired ..
@E36Paradise6 ай бұрын
Their QA team should all be sacked as that is the biggest mistake and one of the features to stay away from. Someone else please come up with an alternative as I don’t mind charging via usbc
@RameshKumar-ng3nf7 ай бұрын
Very good catch 👌. Thanks for pointing it out . We use ipad as touch most of the times and this new magic keyoard really sucks in using ipad. We dont do 24hrs typing in ipad. I wish apple watches this video . Huge waste of money which is not usable for ipad.
@Cicton7 ай бұрын
Mine doesn’t wobble. Click bait.
@AzrealJ7 ай бұрын
Your anecdotal experience doesn’t speak for everyone… this is not clickbait
@DaHaiZhu7 ай бұрын
Tim Apple doesn't GIS, fanboys will buy anyway
@test101me7 ай бұрын
Now go and make 3D printed bump to sell. Business opportunity indeed.
@DBX797 ай бұрын
Their engineers stopped engineering.
@glynbigmore49577 ай бұрын
Mine is fine - you bust have a faulty one - no rocking here
@imAnsar7 ай бұрын
that sucks, was about to order one for me
@N1CO-NINTENDUDE7 ай бұрын
You touch it like a toddler it’s going to tip…..
@fluxnekta7 ай бұрын
So just gluing a long strip of tiny round plastic should make it flush
@jaymichaelodell7 ай бұрын
Mine doesn’t do that. It doesn’t rock.
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
I think you are lying.
@itsmemuffins7 ай бұрын
Apple have been dropping the ball a lot lately.
@jaredweiman29877 ай бұрын
This doesn't happen with my 11" one. Maybe I got lucky?
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
Somehow, I believe you. The rest of these people gush over new tech, and forget about their own standards.
@deepakdhilip7 ай бұрын
That’s an amazing catch
@doubledee2236 ай бұрын
Here’s a fatal flaw, how hard do people really have to press on an iPad screen? Almost barely any pressure, I also use my Apple Pencil pro which here’s a fatal flaw IT DOESN’T, you KZbinrs really do pick up on very minimalistic things when really you ain’t paying for an iPad, your returning it, it’s all about content creation with you folks, I’ve yet to come across a real genuine person who uses it for work and picks up on your “fatal flaws” if you really want something to punch go to a gym or here’s an idea DONT BE SO HEAVY HANDED ON THE MOST SOPHISTICATED IPAD OR TABLET to date
@jimmynodean7 ай бұрын
lies. my keyboard isn't rocking
@AzrealJ7 ай бұрын
What u got?
@alphamale0687 ай бұрын
This doesn't happen with my 13 inch m4 iPad / magic keyboard
@wop1302 ай бұрын
Anybody else having the biggest crush on him? 😭😍
@ldfjlas7 ай бұрын
anybody who needs a keyboard with an ipad actually needs a macbook air.
@lukemac12567 ай бұрын
I don‘t understand your comment. Explain.
@nasigoreng39457 ай бұрын
Someone is getting fired
@Applecompuser7 ай бұрын
Get $89 magic keyboard.
@Bklynblaze17 ай бұрын
This guy is exaggerating for clicks. The new 2024 Magic Keyboard is a huge improvement over the older Magic Keyboard.
@razrv3lc7 ай бұрын
Plus you can clearly see he’s pressing substantially harder on the new one while feather-light touching the others. Also the one he said “had no seesawing action” was literally doing that as he was saying it 😂
@chrisk56517 ай бұрын
How fatal is it?!?!?
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
for $300.....dead.
@Mclark1125227 ай бұрын
And I think your pushing on it and not using it how real people would. Think this is click bait
@minuszero3327 ай бұрын
Returned the iPad and Keyboard today partly because of it
@mdribblecastle7 ай бұрын
11 or 13? I do not have this issue with the 11.
@Rakeesh_087 ай бұрын
Woah good catch,yeah i think apple messed up with that one
@ZinoAmare7 ай бұрын
well I only wanted the 11 inch anyway xD
@aurelian98177 ай бұрын
They shouldn't have made the keyboard lightest and thinnest ever
@SN23V7 ай бұрын
Apple is now cutting Corners 😢
@robloxian1317 ай бұрын
i typed this with the magic keyboard
@chucho9277 ай бұрын
Nice joke. Dont push just touch
@amitoj7 ай бұрын
I trusted you but clearly the angle you put them at was different. The centre of gravity changes when you change them like that. Are you trying to get views?
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
So by your logic, the angles that Apple gives is somehow this man's fault...if you suck on apple's carrot, that's fine, but when you type this, its just embarrassing.
@renoputra52197 ай бұрын
design fail
@boycali017 ай бұрын
so return complained too much
@WillLeingang7 ай бұрын
They need to send you stuff before they make 200k of them.
@dnirox7 ай бұрын
100% right.
@Chad_KBH7 ай бұрын
And it's $300 wow
@4toes1nose7 ай бұрын
Where is Monty?
@tiago.alegria.315Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@ccathey26107 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous. I’ve got it and all you need to do is not push it all the way back if you’re gonna use the touch screen. Frankly I love that it goes further back than the OG Magic Keyboard.
@teddiebear17497 ай бұрын
That just sounds more like a work around. If the previous keyboard didn’t have this issue with a hard touch, this keyboard shouldn’t have it either. And even if the tipping wasn’t THAT big of an issue, I would expect this from a 3rd party product that’s $100, not from a first party accessory that is over $300.
@thewatchersofthewood35307 ай бұрын
$350! 😂
@dominikriegler7 ай бұрын
Apple is a failure in itself. And there is another customer which shows another part of the truth. Seems like they laid off their complete quality control team. Well done! At least it probably has "Titanium", that's the most important, as well as those inflated prices which customers have to pay if they want a device without a headphone jack, micro-SD card slot and ugly "design".
@LibertyLuminary7 ай бұрын
Fatal? Exaggerate much?
@grissom33107 ай бұрын
it's still janky for $300
@LibertyLuminary7 ай бұрын
@@grissom3310 I’ve been using it extensively for a week now… No issues since I don’t push on the touch screen like I have hoofs for hands. 🤷🏻♂️