How to UPGRADE iPad note taking (with Science)

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Justin Sung

Justin Sung

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Timestamps:
0:00 Using iPad for note-taking
01:09 Example of terrible notes
04:11 Demonstration
05:21 The right way to do iPad notes
10:06 Dealing with paper size
11:37 Why you shouldn't annotate
13:39 Examples of sub-par iPad notes
18:03 Bonus benefits of non-linear note-taking
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@JustinSung
@JustinSung 2 ай бұрын
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@illhaveawtrplz
@illhaveawtrplz 5 ай бұрын
I’ve found one of the major benefits of iPad/tablet note-taking is the ability to select and move something you’ve already drawn or written. This flexibility is great for quickly reformatting something you already wrote down when you figure out how it connects to something new. It really cuts down on that up-front cost that you mention.
@EPBF1
@EPBF1 5 ай бұрын
I found that making a brain map helped memorize material but in combination. with my linear notes cemented the material. My brain needed both. For exams the brain maps was my quick cheat sheet & what my brain visualized. I used to use a large art pad to create all those connections. It so awesome that the iPad allows for these beautiful brain maps now
@Shivi_Is_Here
@Shivi_Is_Here 5 ай бұрын
@@EPBF1 Yes I agree! I have to do both methods in order to study effectively. One without the other is useless to me.
@tentimesten6645
@tentimesten6645 4 ай бұрын
What is the up-front cost?
@illhaveawtrplz
@illhaveawtrplz 4 ай бұрын
@@tentimesten6645 In the video he mentions that formatting your notes with his method takes more effort at the start of note-taking because you have to consciously structure everything and leave room if you sense that there will be more info needed later. That all goes away with iPads/tablets because you can always just move what you wrote with little effort instead of erasing and rewriting or stringing arrows everywhere.
@Frisson391
@Frisson391 2 ай бұрын
BACK AMD FORTH. BOTH WAYS. BOTH NOTES
@pohkeee
@pohkeee 5 ай бұрын
That’s why you don’t crack the code of learning until you begin to teach. As a teacher you reverse your process and turn your nonlinear knowledge and concepts in order to produce a linear presentation. …that’s also why the nerds that help their fellow students, usually excel…they have to construct their own mind maps and then deconstruct them to present them to the others.
@sujyotsharma
@sujyotsharma 5 ай бұрын
So true. Teaching really helps you remember stuff a lot longer. That's why I always keep teaching my mom some random topics that I find hard to learn, a good thing that she doesn't mind XD.
@Oh_DADDY.
@Oh_DADDY. 5 ай бұрын
@@sujyotsharma thats so wholesome 😂👍
@mizstudies7558
@mizstudies7558 5 ай бұрын
yep! i love helping others study and try to "teach" my wall for this very reason xD
@lordplayer3333
@lordplayer3333 5 ай бұрын
I agree with that. I'm a science teacher and i learned to do that type of analysis when i was on the college to help my friends and now I'm do the same for my students. Many theory says that the best way to learn is teaching to someone else. And i really found the video so helpful.
@Frisson391
@Frisson391 2 ай бұрын
Best if the tutor struggled with it, but then came to dominate the subject
@BrianGlaze
@BrianGlaze 5 ай бұрын
Learning for the sake of learning is really fun and I wish more people looked at it that way.
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
me too
@Jitin_mishraa
@Jitin_mishraa 5 ай бұрын
​@JustinSung which app you were using in the video to make notes
@yos-sy
@yos-sy 5 ай бұрын
@@Jitin_mishraa I believe he said he used the app Concept but that the Apple Freeform app works the same.
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 5 ай бұрын
Acquiring knowledge can be deeply satisfying. But it requires intellect and the willingness to work. In American culture the two are often contradictory, because gifted observers can create BS analyses and get away with it, encouraging them to become lazy thinkers. You will find no shortage of lazy thinking in the social media, and most Americans lack the critical faculty that would save them from being drawn into drawing false conclusions.
@zimmejoc
@zimmejoc 5 ай бұрын
@@Jitin_mishraa concepts. He gives its name and icon right around the 11:30 mark. I was wondering if he was ever going to give that info when he finally did.
@pawnman7548
@pawnman7548 5 ай бұрын
🎁🎁Gift we want for Christmas is : Justin finally doing a long live session where he actually study something for the first time and put all these study techniques in action.
@terminallucidity
@terminallucidity 5 ай бұрын
He did that ages ago, twice, on the ics channel
@bonesmoney
@bonesmoney 5 ай бұрын
he's done it before on his page. great video
@Macaque919
@Macaque919 5 ай бұрын
and he has to have NO (ok he can have some, but not much) previous knowledge - boy has gotta be fresh! >:)
@arturaraujo3256
@arturaraujo3256 5 ай бұрын
He's done that challenge so many times I don't think there's any topic he'll have zero prior knowledge on xD
@terminallucidity
@terminallucidity 5 ай бұрын
@@Macaque919 with how prior knowledge works, thats impossible xd
@VicRivero
@VicRivero 5 ай бұрын
"I'd like to thank the sponsor of today's video: me" that hit hard lol goals
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
haha, I am super picky with accepting sponsors, I almost rejected myself lol
@bednarskanatalia0
@bednarskanatalia0 5 ай бұрын
i really resonated with you saying you were "more curious" about the topic while making the mind map. Thanks to your channel I started (properly) using mind maps recently for my studies (vet med) and i immediately found myself really engaged, trying to make sense of all the relationships within a topic, curious to solve whatever i dont quite understand yet. before it would have been an absolute pain and i would often end up giving up finding the answer or understanding it very superficially. it makes memorising everything a lot easier too
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
Thats awesome to hear!!!
@wayneduff-riddell5500
@wayneduff-riddell5500 5 ай бұрын
As an engineer dealing with what invariably includes a lot of social impact issues, I find that using mindmapping tools (Simplemind is my favourite) is my go to for many things. The diagrams start out helping me understand a problem, then explain my thinking to colleagues and often land up in reports, business plans, policy documents, all sorts. The one thing I prefer over Justin's style is having "typed" text as I, and others, need to read the stuff in future. Grouping, linking, giving directionality, adding graphics, explanatory notes (if absolutely necessary) - all quite easy. So, not just a learning tool, but also a design tool.
@TheQuark6789
@TheQuark6789 4 ай бұрын
I think many apps (certainly Freeform) have handwriting detection, so you can handwrite your words and have them automatically made more readable without having to switch back and forth between pen and keyboard.
@littledrawingfan
@littledrawingfan 6 күн бұрын
Hey, I’m an engineering student too, how do you deal with formulas on mindmaps? I’m curious because I’ve never done this kind of note taking before and I’m just getting into it
@user-mn7qk2pg9u
@user-mn7qk2pg9u 3 ай бұрын
You know what, I started doing this even before seeing this video and I can confirm that learning has become much more fun, creative and allow me to connect and link info together. Arrows, symbols, I really like it. A really big part of this is thanks to tablets, like you can lasso, erase stuff easily and change its position to fit more info later. 😂 1st year med student too, I had to quickly adapt to a new style of learning and retaining info and boyyy when I used the 'mindmap' method I got the highest grades ive gotten for all the subjects so far. 😅of course, I still have more to learn but like my Dr once said, "An improvement no matter how small, is a step forwards nontheless"
@herrerac
@herrerac 5 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 📚 *Overview of Linear Note-Taking* - Linear note-taking is a common but ineffective method, demonstrated through the speaker's past notes. - Linear notes lack organization, are time-consuming, and hinder deep understanding. - The speaker emphasizes the need to move beyond linear structures for effective learning. 03:56 🔄 *Importance of Nonlinear Note-Taking* - Nonlinear note-taking allows for a more accurate representation of complex knowledge networks. - The speaker compares linear and nonlinear versions of notes, highlighting the benefits of the latter. - Emphasis on reconstructing knowledge into a nonlinear network for better retention and understanding. 07:26 📉 *Streamlining and Simplifying Notes* - The process of constant refinement and simplification in nonlinear note-taking is crucial for understanding. - The speaker demonstrates how nonlinear notes lead to cleaner, more organized representations. - Confidence and curiosity increase as a result of effective nonlinear note-taking. 10:55 📏 *Limitations of Physical Paper for Note-Taking* - Physical paper imposes limitations on expressing complex relationships and connections. - The speaker highlights the benefit of using an iPad with an Infinite Canvas for unrestricted note-taking. - Emphasis on the importance of leveraging technology to enhance the learning experience. 13:18 📱 *Pitfalls in Using Learning Apps on iPad* - Many learning apps on the iPad are designed without considering effective learning science principles. - The speaker points out issues with app designs that replicate paper-based note-taking habits. - Learners should be aware that using an app marketed for learning does not guarantee efficient learning. 16:47 🖼️ *Common Issues in iPad Note-Taking Styles* - Critique of common iPad note-taking styles that involve copying images and simple annotations. - Emphasis on the importance of deep processing and creating meaningful networks in notes. - The speaker encourages learners to go beyond superficial methods and engage in more thoughtful note-taking. 18:53 🔍 *Identifying Knowledge Gaps Through Visual Representation* - Nonlinear note-taking visually exposes knowledge gaps and weaknesses during the note-writing process. - Discovering gaps in real-time accelerates learning and engages curiosity. - The speaker emphasizes the long-term benefits of addressing knowledge gaps early in the learning process. Made with HARPA AI
@yanikem6655
@yanikem6655 5 ай бұрын
I love how you’ve presented the takeaways from the video in linear fashion!! 😉😀
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 5 ай бұрын
Do as I say, not as I do.
@derickd6150
@derickd6150 5 ай бұрын
​@@yanikem6655 it would be difficult to present in a non-linear fashion in pure text form
@yanikem6655
@yanikem6655 5 ай бұрын
@@derickd6150 yes, it was said tongue-in-cheek.
@emperor8716
@emperor8716 4 ай бұрын
good summary but the problem with this is that its too wordy and doesn't get the main points across. when using AI to summarize things i like to tell it to write in a "short and concise" manner.
@ToueTu
@ToueTu 5 ай бұрын
"then I can go through and clean it up instead of trying to figure out everything mentally which is going to be overloading", thank you Justin for saying this. I feel like even though intuitively I wanted to do this, I would force myself trying to do it mentally and trying to make it "perfect" on the first try, which would demotivate me and feeling like "I am doing it wrong. How does Justin do it?". You saying that you do this, it feels like some weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Because the process of trial and error and then adjust and clean up is something that makes creating mindmaps more enjoyable (at least for me). It almost feels like a painting where you start drafting but then you slowly make it better and better as you progress.
@irem.1028
@irem.1028 4 ай бұрын
I had an extra class on highscool that a technical career, but also works as pre-med course, the only homework we had was little tests and mind maps of every theme, that made me notice is probably the best way to study
@florian2928
@florian2928 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! This was a very important impuls for me since my notes were rubbish too and I also felt that but did not know what else I could do to do better. Greetings from Germany.
@user-rc9ll5gr4k
@user-rc9ll5gr4k 4 ай бұрын
I finally knew the science behind the way I have used in my learning since I was a child--reconstruct linear knowledge into the nonlinear networking knowledge. There was no tablet back in my learning days. I did that in the PC when I was in graduate school. My husband criticized I was wasting the times as my Uniform CPA exam was around the corner. ( I was an international student and took the exam for the first time) My husband never ever told me how to study after he saw my score in that subject - 92 points in business law. I passed all four parts in one sitting. And yes, I can’t agree with Justin more about this learning science.
@favbal2450
@favbal2450 5 ай бұрын
Your original notes is what is enabling you to redo them this way. If you were trying to do it when the professor was doing the lecture it would be more difficult. Especially if he/she was doing it at speed. When a professor that actually “teaches” is up front doing the lecture you don’t have time to do this. I have always used this method but I would get the main points and then later go back and together with the book and my memory, which is what really helped me, I would redo them in this way.
@banksjim
@banksjim 4 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Could also be done by recording and relistening to the lecture. Both wildly time consuming. When you are being presented entirely new information from a fast moving linear stream you A) Don’t have the time to visualize and conceptualize how to make these connections, or how to summarize the stream coming at you, or even what should be summarized Vs what is important; B) Have no idea what is coming next to know how / if it’s related. …He did eventually acknowledge all of his midway through the video with the recommendation solution to “pre-study”? Not really sure who has time to do that. I’d wager he didn’t either. Bottom line, you really can’t get to coolio notes like this without some sort of “two-pass” approach be it pre-study, consolidating more linear notes, or re-listening to the content in a way in which you can pause and control the pace. These are all still great ideas. But this takes more time to,do well, not less. Also, sort of,acknowledged by the end of the video.
@carlstevenwilletts
@carlstevenwilletts Ай бұрын
A lecturer lectures and in most subjects a professor lectures not teaches. When attending a lecture, you are supposed to have prior knowledge of what they are talking about (and no, I rarely did the reading required for the lecture, so I can relate to what you are saying), and therefore you shouldn't need to write down most of what they say. I do agree that restructuring your notes after a lecture can be very effective.
@lolawlor7086
@lolawlor7086 27 күн бұрын
He has a different video for note taking during lectures :) it is not one size fits all
@werm3169
@werm3169 20 күн бұрын
He actually has a whole video showing how to do this in lectures. Requiring more effort is kind of inherent to the whole technique and is part of what makes it effective. It's not exactly the same as when youre studying alone and you do need to make adaptations, but the same basic principles apply
@eseanthony105
@eseanthony105 Күн бұрын
Wow this is my first time on your channel and i now see why I have been struggling studying, thank you for this
@Abhishekrai-tc3cx
@Abhishekrai-tc3cx 4 ай бұрын
1st step :Get an iPad
@user-zi8cc7rb1z
@user-zi8cc7rb1z Ай бұрын
2nd step :Get an apple pencil
@TalekG
@TalekG Ай бұрын
3rd step: Get a paper like
@mahikayasth6419
@mahikayasth6419 Ай бұрын
No you can use pen tab too
@gourab9268
@gourab9268 19 күн бұрын
4th step: subscribe to good notes
@iclonethefirst
@iclonethefirst 15 күн бұрын
Samsung tabs are also just fine. Got myself a Samsung galaxy tab s9 fe+
@Ipadstands
@Ipadstands 2 ай бұрын
Nice Energy in his delivery. Fun and Factful !!
@amberdawn6793
@amberdawn6793 4 ай бұрын
Unreal blueprints immediately came to mind looking at your non-linear notes/mind maps 😂 Love this
@dodger1x
@dodger1x 5 ай бұрын
One idea I had after struggling with taking down notes from an KZbin. Was to download the transcription of the video on prehand and get AI to do clean up and improve the text with buklet points etc. so I could enjoy the video more instead of being afraid of missing out on what was said, forget something or focusing only on writing whats being said without actually understanding it. Apparantly there is a Chrome KZbin plug in for this
@PeterFraser-hp3rs
@PeterFraser-hp3rs 4 ай бұрын
That was a really great video -- the info in here could be life changing for a lot of folks.
@nacreoustrader
@nacreoustrader 5 ай бұрын
I thought I was gonna be judged for taking notes like this so I did linear…boy do I wish I just did what I wanted and needed instead. Thank you for this video!
@MrGlaucos1
@MrGlaucos1 4 ай бұрын
The aspect that I'm uncertain whether people will grasp in your video, but it's present, is that effective studying is the one that compels your brain to acquire knowledge, not the paper. Your new version of this work exhibits fewer words because the implied connections are truly within your brain, not merely on paper.
@chloekoh9662
@chloekoh9662 5 ай бұрын
1:25 I love how you show off your bad notes with pride because of how far you’ve gotten. That is insane HAHA absolute respect to you Dr Sung ❤🙇‍♀️ I hope to be able to make fun of my current notes years in the future as well 😂
@safaobuz
@safaobuz 5 ай бұрын
Justin, to be straightforward, I feel like this style of note taking only works because you already have established relationships between these objects and are just putting it to paper. The process of generating these notes and referring back to them later further ingrains these ideas into you. However, for ideas that can't be fully encapsulated by just one word, I don't think this style works well. For example, if I wanted to use this style of note taking for mathematics, how would I go about doing it? After a certain point these notes don't help your problem solving capability, which is really needed in math. Math is also extremely linear, so it seems pointless. This seems good for pre-med/med or humanities, but for other subjects seems weak. I'm sorry if you already have a video that addresses this topic but I haven't gotten around to watching it, if it exists.
@crossbow170
@crossbow170 5 ай бұрын
I am glad i am not the only person who felt this way while thinking this video.
@sergoordzonikidze6359
@sergoordzonikidze6359 5 ай бұрын
it depends on the level of math we're talking about I guess. for uni level math mindmaps are great, because the theory is actually extremely non-linear. my issue with linear notes is that the concepts connect with each other, some topics are like "if the morphism satisfies the obscure property that we defined 20 pages ago then it satisfies the obscure property that we defined 5 pages ago", using linear notes for things like this is torture. just make a mindmap about morphisms and enjoy having everything in one place. another example is when a structure can be defined and described in n different ways, I find that when I put everything on a single page and try to make a mindmap it happens naturally to ask questions such as "why is this equivalent" or "why do we need this assumption". for problem solving I'd say linear notes are the only choice, because how would you even make a mindmap of that, but for studying the theory I believe it to be the best method last time I've seen math feeling linear was in highschool and I think taking notes is not helpful at all for the highschool level math, because the focus is on problem solving
@terminallucidity
@terminallucidity 5 ай бұрын
This will work for maths, but only up to getting an understanding of the major concepts. You will need to use that knowledge to examine the details about equations etc.
@lennyarms4476
@lennyarms4476 5 ай бұрын
i agree i dont think this is helpful for problem solving classes such as stem classes
@terminallucidity
@terminallucidity 5 ай бұрын
@@lennyarms4476it is still helpful as a deep conceptual understanding will make learning the details and applications at a very high level a lot easier and faster
@paigelysaght4724
@paigelysaght4724 4 ай бұрын
Just popped up in my recommended and I love this advice. My only question/concern would be doing this in classes that are very theory based/wordy. I’m studying a degree in criminology, and don’t know how I’d be able to represent the loads of information I need to know into a diagram. Would absolutely love some advice on this, and love the video !!!!!
@bella-sx1zt
@bella-sx1zt 4 ай бұрын
Me too! I’d love advice for this
@jimmetcalf6408
@jimmetcalf6408 5 ай бұрын
Liked how showed your non-linear notes; also the 5 questions to bring to a lecture
@Nathalia__Correa
@Nathalia__Correa 5 ай бұрын
Justin, I decided to change career after 11 years in this field and in my thirties, I’ll start a new degree next year. I'm looking for ways to improve my learning process and develop my knowledge in an objective and efficient way, very different from how I did in my first degree and postgraduate course. 😂 I discovered your videos today and I'm excited to learn from you and put everything into practice next year. Thanks for the video! 🇧🇷
@julias.w8
@julias.w8 5 ай бұрын
Same girl! I also want to study a major and get a new degree as well after grad😅. I thought I was crazy and wasting time, noone would do the same as I do. But hey! I found u in this comment🙌🏻🙌🏻. Tbh, if i dont make this decision and dont see this vid, I will never improve my learning strag and techq. I need to develop new study skills in an efficient way that help me memorize + understand things effectively and solidly and get rid off the feeling of hating myself for not taking a good note😭.
@koreanboijo
@koreanboijo 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!! Starting now I’m going to write with non linear style!
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
yayyyyyyyyyy (this comment made my day haha)
@HazelAis
@HazelAis 3 ай бұрын
I use actually post it’s and make a mindmap on my desk. I can easily move it around when i i realize i misunderstood something 😁 it’s is a game changer!
@pauldkeithjr419
@pauldkeithjr419 4 ай бұрын
I found this video very helpful and I think you have a great sense of humor. Sound and video quality is also outstanding. I would be curious to know what your setup is?
@cyanea-
@cyanea- 3 ай бұрын
I've been using my iPad mini for handwriting since 2010 with those adonit styluses. I've been arguing with myself the whole time that it is so annoying to go back 6 pages for the actual definition of what you're looking for. Will have a long mental training to get your better work flow . Thanks for the tip 👌🖤
@atulsingh7539
@atulsingh7539 5 ай бұрын
Please make a video of you studying a concept (with topics and subtopics) while, how you would implement your methods. Thank you 😊
@HaroldSchranz
@HaroldSchranz Ай бұрын
Looks like the sort of thing that happens to my knowledge map as I developed further skills by actually problem solving.
@amsol46
@amsol46 4 ай бұрын
Great video. I plan to look into how this relates to language learning, which I hope you cover
@thebigten90
@thebigten90 5 ай бұрын
love, love LOVE This! Thank you very much!
@Enhancedlies
@Enhancedlies 5 ай бұрын
at 9:01 you said 'just look at the screen' as i was fiddling about not paying my full attention. It brought me right back to school hahah in a good way though, because im loving to learn now its not compulsory
@robertmaxey5406
@robertmaxey5406 5 ай бұрын
Greetings Justin. I truly appreciate your work. One big issue I see with people looking to up their productivity game is they try to fix something with an app that cannot be fixed because of their bad habits. Overcoming lazyness and drive will forever kill their productivity. Perhaps you can address this in a video.
@HyperUpscale
@HyperUpscale 5 ай бұрын
WOW - I NEEDED THIS VIDEO SO BADLY - YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!
@HyperUpscale
@HyperUpscale 5 ай бұрын
NOW I KNOW THE SECRET
@Geonerdpartha
@Geonerdpartha 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the valuable information ❤
@Hamdi.B.
@Hamdi.B. 5 ай бұрын
That video was really made sense for me thank you😊🙏
@jan6061
@jan6061 12 күн бұрын
I love how does Videos perfectly fit in zoom to fill mode
@lucasmcazelli
@lucasmcazelli 3 ай бұрын
I got the iPad once I discovered this type of note… now I’m using obsidian to organize this and I love it I use Excalibur to add drawings and notes if necessary I type faster than handwriting might be that
@anojd162
@anojd162 4 ай бұрын
Nice Video 💌 I learned a new aspect of studying! 🌼
@Orkari
@Orkari 5 ай бұрын
This is amazing. Thank you!
@btsborahae06
@btsborahae06 Ай бұрын
I tried this way of note taking and I must say it works quite well for me! But I think it depends on which subject you’re working on for the amount of linear writing. I just used this note-taking method for my history class, but history needs a lot of explanation and linear writing. So you’ll still have some linear writing in the mind-map. When you need to take notes for exact subjects, it’s easier to use abbreviations and the notes will be smaller in the end. Great method tho!
@kaffeeringe
@kaffeeringe 2 ай бұрын
I discovered this way of learning only after I failed my first attempt on a test on learning psychology. And I wonder, why I learned how to learn so late in my education. I just threw away my notes from back then. And they were still pretty accessible. Surely more accessible than a written text. These days I try to have fun with note taking - they call it sketchnotes. And it really forces you to listen and understand.
@vicwillis4295
@vicwillis4295 5 ай бұрын
i can't wait to try this!!!
@Truthhurts808
@Truthhurts808 5 ай бұрын
Great demonstration! Thanks.
@glowingeye
@glowingeye 2 ай бұрын
I need to try this. Right now I just treat my iPad like "scrollable paper", I basically only write linear notes, a lot of text, sometimes screenshots from lectures or some other sketch type stuff. It kinda works because my course of studies is in the engineering spectrum and there aren't many notes to take in lectures where I just calculate stuff, but right now I was learning for chemistry (exam tomorrow) and it's just crap, I can't remember anything, can't find anything so that has so change. However, last semester I did the same thing for two other courses and got A's, so idk, depends on the course itself, I guess. Anyways, thanks for the input! I guess in the end it really depends on the topic your working on, if this style of notetaking works. Sometimes things are so linear, that this wouldn't be an option, other times is different. A mixture and more openness to mixing things up might be the right way here.
@kokomelon3807
@kokomelon3807 5 ай бұрын
hehe, been watching you for the past year and its nice to see you "adapt" to youtube environment
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for the ongoing support, me and the team have being trying our best haha. It would be interesting to hear and gain your perspective on what sorts of things you personally have noticed that have come from our adaptation. If you don't mind, could you share some of them (will help us improve our content even moreeeeeeeee)? (ps - have a awesome Monday!)
@kokomelon3807
@kokomelon3807 5 ай бұрын
Dang, I'm at school rn. I would say that now you are letting your viewers be curious about the topic you are discussing. In a way that you uses less technical words and just focus on the topic at hand. It's more engaging in that way, also you are not overloading your viewers with topics that are related. I remember the distress when I first watched a video you made years ago. It's about a certain topic together with all the ideas you are presenting interconnected with each other to discuss the main topic, and it just makes me want to just leave not just your video but KZbin as well. It felt overwhelming. I only pushed through because you said it was normal to feel that way but I doubt other viewers have the patience to continue watching it😅 Like dude each video was 20-50 mins long haha, I literally bet my time and trust you and myself that what you will say is more valuable than what school works and study I may have done. Although I would say that it is true that learning is such a complicated topic. And as far as i can judge, you are doing your best to simplify it enough to fit it into the platform. Maybe the older videos were too technical for an average viewer like me in the past. Also, I may be affected by bias, saying that video is much better, as I already know most of what this video is all about considering all the knowledge I have beforehand. Anyway I still think it's better than before. I can now recommend your channel to my classmates without them judging that I am a weirdo based on the contents you provide😅. Because it really happened though hahaha. Their first reaction was like "it's fcking long." Also I want to thank you as I now have this chance, I been doing better since I bet my time on you. I would say that I'm at the top of my class in electrical engineering in terms of practical applications. One more sem till graduation 🎓
@Todd13
@Todd13 5 ай бұрын
I’m the guy hugging the tree at the start of the video. Startling! Wish I would have learned these concepts 30 years ago. Thanks!
@ronaldsanchez2506
@ronaldsanchez2506 5 ай бұрын
When it’s time to disseminate what you’ve documented, what best practices do you recommend to convert non-linear notes to linear written work?
@razanesmael
@razanesmael 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are amazing and they help alot
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Dank_Lulu
@Dank_Lulu 5 ай бұрын
Learned quite a few interesting things here. 1: It is not necessary to write-out the mind-map all at once, having several iterations is perfectly acceptable. I had not understood this so I kinda just did away with mindmaps and notetaking alltogether. 2: Relying on limited paper space to force me to simplify information is not a good idea. 3: Dr Justin Sung still has self-abusive practices during note-taking.
@Javielitohehe
@Javielitohehe 5 ай бұрын
Omg which type of self abusive techniques
@Dank_Lulu
@Dank_Lulu 5 ай бұрын
@@Javielitohehe Well, it was a joke since he acknowledged how garbo his old work was, but in previous vids, he had shown some 'you suck' and 'you're not working hard enough' - types of notes in his personal notebook. I used to do that a lot. Truns-out, it's not a very cash-money thing to do in the long run. Works great short-run tho! But if you're looking for a fun self-abusive technique to try-out, might I suggest one of my personal favourites: hyperfocus so hard on your special interest that you mostly forget to sleep, eat or drink for over 36 hours. Really clears the mind!
@razanesmael
@razanesmael 5 ай бұрын
Please make a playlist for the videos that feature you studying and showing the techniques
@canadian97
@canadian97 Ай бұрын
This is the first video I see from this channel, so I guess Im missing a lot of content, but even though I like the reason for thinking and writing non-linear in note-taking, I have no idea what are his notes about nor how would I go about writing my own notes non-linearly. From other comments, it seems it is a mind map, which i guess it explains why is hard for me to do this because I’ve never been good at drawing a mind map. I’ll keep looking at other videos on this channel, maybe he has a deeper explanation on how to draw mind maps.
@danhquang
@danhquang 4 ай бұрын
amazing works and tips thank you so much
@lucijarados9697
@lucijarados9697 20 күн бұрын
Hi! I love your videos! Could you maybe do a video of an example where you transform linear information to mind maps. I would really like to understand the concept for example regarding biology or chemistry where it feels like only linear notes work. Thabk you❤
@m.yhealthguide2617
@m.yhealthguide2617 10 күн бұрын
obsidian takes the notes and does this mindmapping thing you are trying to demonstrate.
@4ndressa957
@4ndressa957 5 ай бұрын
Wow! That’s interesting, I will try it!!
@zahramashayekhi8187
@zahramashayekhi8187 5 ай бұрын
Most useful video for learners in the world🎉
@florin3125
@florin3125 5 ай бұрын
Hey Justin, which books did influence the way you are learning the most. Could you recommend some titles? Thanks for your work!
@carlstevenwilletts
@carlstevenwilletts Ай бұрын
Excellent video! It's always amazed me that almost all schools do not teach students how to learn effectively and efficiently. Learning for most students consists of trying to cram as much knowledge into their memory as possible. Believe me, if you think we have it bad in the west, it's even worse in countries like China where they attempt to cram enormous amounts of information during junior and senior high school (I taught there for 5 years and I know I would not have endured it as a student). Even if students can remember most of the knowledge they store, most are unable to synthesise the knowledge to show they truly understand it. Our brains are capable of synthesising the essential facts and do not need to recall a carbon copy of the textbook from our memory. Learning is about gaining an understanding of how everything fits together and how each specific point connects to the others.
@Sulutzu
@Sulutzu Ай бұрын
I think the ideal here you’re promoting is the utility of an iPad instrument to create and displays of different models of the content for the specific purpose of improving understanding. Better modeling, better understanding. Reading comments, there are inputs saying, “…this won’t work for math”. “…won’t work for accounting…”. What I think is fundamentally missing for these people is you trying to give a better rubric for improving understanding vs improving knowing. Feynman does a great job explaining the difference between understanding and knowing. I’m an old person so linear education strongly informs my skills at modeling, meaning even though I understand what you’re trying to achieve, I’m not skilled at what you’re trying to promote. The point here is even though you’re giving a better mousetrap, It’s not a “that was easy” button.
@dani1366631
@dani1366631 4 ай бұрын
Great stuff! ❤
@tsairox6035
@tsairox6035 5 ай бұрын
Which note-taking all are you using Justin? Love your videos! 🙏🏼
@Awais12384
@Awais12384 5 ай бұрын
If you try obsidian with excalidraw plugin, its amazing. You can organize things infinitely and excalidraw has infinite canvas and very simple to use.
@xblurryfacex8908
@xblurryfacex8908 5 ай бұрын
it’s great but really really slow
@suisinghoraceho2403
@suisinghoraceho2403 5 ай бұрын
So you do non-liner from the get go? Have you actually tried it on learning new things? What about if you are in a live talk/lecture? Would you have time to apply the higher level learning?
@matthewmckenney2247
@matthewmckenney2247 5 ай бұрын
Any advice for someone who's about 5 months out from STEP 2 and needs a score to get into surgery? Just keep doing question banks, Anki for memory, and maybe draw out management algorithms in this format to really solidify them ?
@BostonTerrierDad623
@BostonTerrierDad623 2 ай бұрын
I was just about to unload on you & then you said, "...these were mine..." LOL some of us are massively concrete vs abstract → i got a degree & masters by writing & re-writing my notes many, many times. However, the older I've gotten, the better that has gotten. Near 30yo my mind seemed to calm & i could actually read without wind distracting me. I'm now 51 and can learn easily, retain, do things I never thought possible.
@tranglaivukieu2455
@tranglaivukieu2455 4 ай бұрын
wow, so amazing, thank you so much
@bluemntceltic2
@bluemntceltic2 Ай бұрын
I like what your saying with the exception of using the term or phrase ‘note taking’. Since teaching or conveying information is typically presented linearly and not holistically, your written notes reflect that and they are tied to the moment. Although you can typically also ‘out think’ the speaker in that you can think at about 600 words per minute and the speaker rarely goes more than 100 3pm. There is not enough time to do the cognitive processing you are depicting in the moment as you.will have stopped listening. In my way of thinking, notes are taken to remind you of what was presented. Study is the thinking and processing you are doing now, reorganizing, adding and connecting to previous knowledge. You can do some of that with key words to remind you of the connection while you are taking notes but in reality you must spend the extra time afterwards to do what you are illustrating and that is a much more effective manner of study for retention and understanding that nearly ‘reviewing’ your notes. For that I applaud you. Thanks for the video, I’ll keep it on tap to help me illustrate those point in my Honors Chemistry and Biology classes. Much Respect, Tim😄
@bobbyv3
@bobbyv3 5 ай бұрын
Mind-mapping. It works.
@ThatDwayne
@ThatDwayne 2 ай бұрын
This is great info / technique for learning. Do you have any thoughts or advice on how to adapt these techniques for “corporate” note taking like meeting notes, 1:1’s, projects, etc?
@HappyMrGhost
@HappyMrGhost 5 ай бұрын
I've noticed that most mind map software forces that wheel and spokes structure, which limits the relationships between branches.
@Dexxis_OG
@Dexxis_OG 4 ай бұрын
thank you so much bro
@ordinarygg
@ordinarygg 5 ай бұрын
Nice usage of Envato elements sounds)))
@dpopkin1
@dpopkin1 5 ай бұрын
I’m a first year PA student, how would this method work? Or do you have a video that goes more in depth on how to do this?
@zsszikszai5180
@zsszikszai5180 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Do you think it works for law as well? And if Yes could you share what are the steps to get great at law exams?
@terminallucidity
@terminallucidity 5 ай бұрын
Works fine for law
@lukec8371
@lukec8371 5 ай бұрын
I thought my notes were non linear and I do them on a tablet. Notes take me ages... And before exams I wouldn't even go over the notes (and even if I did... It wasn't that helpful) I would do questions and make general pointers for myself ... I now realise those pointers might have been the type of notes I needed. Thanks for showing us this! Extremely helpful!! I need to focus more on cognitive load and process lots of stuff before writing notes. Imagine if Justin Sung streamed on Twitch.
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
Study streams on twitch?
@someone-kw3ou
@someone-kw3ou 5 ай бұрын
@@JustinSung omg yes!
@lukec8371
@lukec8371 5 ай бұрын
​@@JustinSungNah, please stream on KZbin for that, I just thought it would be funny seeing you as a gamer (as I know you do play games from time to time) .. but you're busy for that and depended on by many people so I don't actually think you should do that. ....although you are very purple. (KZbin Study streams are great though and I really like them)
@LloydyMac
@LloydyMac 5 ай бұрын
Hi Justin, just a quick question, I’ve just found you on KZbin and have a question regarding this type of learning. I’m looking to go back to college next year, I’m 34 and going to be training to become a bridge officer in the merchant navy. For this I need to learn word for word a set of rules and regulations, would you still go about this the same way or are there other techniques you teach that could help with this? Thanks for your time
@blackmirror9312
@blackmirror9312 5 ай бұрын
Sir, i want you to make effective techniques with paper note taking as well.I understand there are cons to system but I can't afford expensive tech at this point.Especially for facts heavy subjects like law.A fan from India.
@DereinzigwahreAkede
@DereinzigwahreAkede 5 ай бұрын
There are enough way cheaper tablets than an iPad…
@gottabepablo
@gottabepablo 5 ай бұрын
So should I quickly jot down ideas after processing new information first and then translate these jotted notes into a non linear graphical representation?
@sheon2
@sheon2 5 ай бұрын
Hi Justin, love your videos! I’ve been going through your videos and gathering the concepts. A lot of what you talk about is formalized education. However, for someone who has completed their formal education and tackling self-learning, how does one know if the relationships they formed are accurate? You touched on it briefly in this video. Is it largely googling for other resources, practically testing the concepts, and revising our mind maps? Pretty much any advice you have for a non formalized education is appreciated!
@terminallucidity
@terminallucidity 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@os6219
@os6219 5 ай бұрын
Happy if it all makes sense to you.
@hiii8758
@hiii8758 5 ай бұрын
Hi, do u mind making a video on how to make the nonlinear notes and find relationships, then present them in a neat way? (As youve done in the video but this tim3 actually teaching how)
@jpmasters-aus
@jpmasters-aus 4 ай бұрын
I’m intrigued as to how you can use non-linear method in a conference lecture or seminar where you may not pre know much of the Information
@trvnq
@trvnq 2 ай бұрын
such a good video thank u
@user-xr6wt8lo6e
@user-xr6wt8lo6e 5 ай бұрын
What's are the recommendations for engineering subject's? When we have more mathematical information.. ‏
@Flipah
@Flipah 2 ай бұрын
Thank You ❤
@stewartcabuyao7884
@stewartcabuyao7884 5 ай бұрын
I would love to have a copy of your book if you release one in the future.
@simpleanalyst5563
@simpleanalyst5563 3 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your videos, learning to think differently about studying. May I ask, your iPad looks HUGE to me, what type is it please? I have a problem with trying to write on a small screen all the time. Also, the name of the note-taking app? Thankyou
@danielslee757
@danielslee757 5 ай бұрын
So do you recommend doing this after a lecture? I can't imagine doing this efficiently in a traditional lecture because I'm too busy trying to connect the latest dot with the newest dot and don't have time to see how it connects in the bigger picture.
@matteobelletti8929
@matteobelletti8929 4 ай бұрын
I think in class linear notes are fine, the maps he’s talking about are supposed to be made afterwards, when organizing your notes. To make them “live” you should be really good
@spooky416
@spooky416 2 ай бұрын
are u a current med student? how do u take ur notes?
@cree_chan
@cree_chan Ай бұрын
"a clueless amoeba" 😂 thanks Justin, this is awesome.
@grabie2
@grabie2 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid! How do you apply this “distillation” for subjects such as history?
@Loicmartins
@Loicmartins 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting thanks!
@OwletRL
@OwletRL 5 ай бұрын
Re vocalizing the wishes here for a math focused video!
@kolganekanchansambhaji6837
@kolganekanchansambhaji6837 5 ай бұрын
Hey i like the way you explained everything but i have a problem with studying community medicine subject i dont remember it effectively how can i apply this to my learning of community medicine
@typetraft7566
@typetraft7566 5 ай бұрын
Amazing. thank you master
@JustinSung
@JustinSung 5 ай бұрын
No worries
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