Apple Tried to Destroy This Mac… But I Found One!

[@snazzy]

If you want to see how much work was needed to revive this thing, go watch Collin’s video. He repairs the board cut, adds NAND flash, re-provisions the board, and a litany of other genius but nightmarish stuff to get the darn thing chooching again. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJa0omucrZl3ZrMsi=L_2kWOjBTQSMycdb

[@eopest]

hmmm.. do you think you could get my 6400/ 200 running again?

[@dosdude1]

So glad you had the chance to take a look at one of these weird Macs! The repair and restoration of these boards represents about a year’s worth of work and research, and needless to say I am very happy with the result!

[@sirNemanjapro]

You are a wizard! Thank you for keeping my (and everyone else’s) old Mac current!

[@krynglak]

dude I watched this board repair :) you are amazing!

[@MrPwnageMachine]

I watched the repair too!

[@snazzy]

A god amongst mortals!

[@cataclysmicproductions]

king!

[@swimmln]

Mild correction: the 'Mac Mini' tag and thunderbolt logos on the unit are just a result of Collin reusing a Mac Mini casing-since his board came loose. The original chassis used for the DTK had no thunderbolt logos on the back, and only the regulatory logos on the bottom.

[@Ni5ei]

I'm quite surprized he didn't know that since Colin's video was already up 4 months ago. He obviously didn't watch it because he also talks about the serial number on the case "is a complete fraud".

[@ericbauer4559]

@@Ni5ei Right? He could have at least watched Collins video on it first.

[@bfriesen75]

As a developer I had one of these machines. The machine was slow and Rosetta was buggy. I thought this didn't bode well for Apple. When I returned the machine and got a full M1 as a replacement, I was very surprised by how snappy the machine was compared to the dev kit.

[@JethroRose]

looks like the DTK ran at 1ghz, the M1 runs at 3.x so...

[@merbudd]

So, when Quinn said that people had to return the DTK with a compensation of $0, was that false? Did developers get an M1 mini when they returned it?

[@iambenmitchell]

As a small developer at the time, I immediately applied for the DTK after WWDC ended. I got approved and the terms and conditions were sent over. Literally took 30 seconds for me to realise it was a horrible idea. £500 and I had to send it back for no refund? And if I didn’t send it back, Tim would send Craig to my house and kidnap my family… no thanks.

[@hajjdawood]

Too bad, they actually did give $500 back when you returned it. This was due to the developer feedback.

[@ShadowRubberDuck]

Quinn from Snazzy Labs: “Any commission Linus? Payments are late!” Derek from Vertasium: “No problem Quinn!”

[@EnderRobber101]

LOL

[@TheT8or]

I got this lol

[@raulgalets]

kids will have this comment on the homework when studying "youtube history 101"

[@neelanchalagarkar2869]

Lmao the fact that i understood this says that crazy

[@lvcc11]

What a reference

[@EricMBlog]

I remember when they did the Intel transition, if you got the dev kit, they sent you an Intel iMac as a replacement for them when they did the dev kit reclamation. Much classier.

[@owenoreilly_20]

they did end up giving the devs $500 gift cards back

[@guspaz]

Everybody forgets the transition from 68K to PowerPC. The emulation layer was so low-level that you could switch between 68K and PowerPC code on the fly. At first, even the vast majority of the OS was still 68K code running in the emulator. They could get away with this because the emulator was extremely good from a compatibility standpoint, and while the performance wasn't amazing (at least until they replaced the interpretive emulator with a dynarec emulator), it was still equivalent to a midrange 68K mac.

[@what-a-lark]

I worked on a team that got one of these - primarily to test Apple Silicon as we replaced our dedicated mac app with a Catalyst version adapted from our iPad app. I did most of the work getting everything to compile for the new architecture (and boy was it a wild west when it came to external libraries). The DTK itself was definitely a bit buggy and had several quirks (I had to use DFU mode to reset/fix it on 3 separate occasions). But it was exactly what we needed to get the app ready and tested by the time the M1 came out. On the whole it was worth it for our team, and it was fun to get a glimpse of the future for mac.

[@Mo-Thoughx]

A while ago I bought an iPhone but recently I bought a Mac for the ecosystem and it was a good decision. What I like most and what surprises me is its performance and screen.

[@yavuzs7]

And the best thing is that Office works incredibly well for me, I don't have to worry about Windows 11 ever again.

[@Mo-Thoughx]

And since you got it, I've seen several videos but I still can't get over the fear of installing it.

[@yavuzs7]

My office BNH Software and precisely that fear made me get it out of there, I am happy because it has worked very well for me, even better than in Windows

[@TheWolfHowling]

I’m a little surprised that you actually got the DTK to “work”. I would have thought that maybe Cupertino might have used the Dark Apple Magic to remotely brick any surviving units, such as barring any A12Z MacOS devices from connecting to their servers, or even sending some kind of “Kill Code”

[@transposestudios]

That M1 release era was awesome. Working in printing our prepress dept. uses macs and we had to put off the upgrade for awhile until Kodak got with the program (M1 support, etc.) Sucked that one developer kept us from upgrading as long as they did

[@microfx]

Shame on you Kodak!!

[@HardikMeel]

These obscure Apple products just make me happy.

[@tetrakoop]

yelling at the humane pin almost made me choke hahah

[@Viewer-zs6xj]

Wouldn't be surprised if Quinn reviews and dissects the terminator that arrives on his doorstep.

[@AndrewKneebone]

yes! I was just lucky that I'm watching this vid at 10:30 at night and I drink coffee around 7am.. Otherwise.. delicious Melbourne Latte sprayin!!

[@exlomo]

someone needs to commend the storytelling and pacing in this video it's really well done. whoever's scripting and editing needs a 15% pay rise. i enjoyed seeing dosdude1's work given slick editing back to apple's keynote. you two should collaborate again. dosdude is such a legend, i love that he's doing extremely delicate and huge cost of failure jobs off the back of an old dvd drive because if you turn it upside down it's flat enough.

[@peteralfredhess]

The Humane pin screaming to be relevant cracked me up so much 😂

[@paulharrison8379]

I watched a video which revealed that a KZbinr had sourced the main board for this Mac mini from the company paid to destroy them. This company cut through a number of tracks close to the edge of the board as happened to your Mac. The KZbinr was able to reconnect the cut tracks and refitted a flash chip. What was impressive was that he knew what numbers needed to be flashed into this chip to make it work before he soldered it onto the board. He mounted the fixed board into a Mac mini 2018 model and successfully installed MacOS on it.

[@morph-]

This isnt a dtk chassis. You can tell that by the fact that this board was sent back to apple, because it has been sliced. It will have then been recovered from the trash and repaired (theres a few videos of this) and then put in a mac mini chassis with a mac mini power supply. (Just saw that quinn mentioned the slash, it would have been nice to mention that it was put in a mac mini case)

[@platterfoot]

7:13 that “SHUT UP!!!” Was personal 😵‍💫

[@snazzy]

It was like the 4th time it rang!

[@platterfoot]

@@snazzyhaha You: SHUT UP!!!! 🗣️ Humane Pin: 🧿👃🧿

[@HikikomoriDev]

Maybe that's why they will downsize the Mac Mini that will be announced in a few days or weeks, because everything is really embedded within like shown on this unit taking little space, and there's no need of space like the older Mac Minis.

[@daillengineer]

Comment aged well

[@Mooooooof]

This being more iPad than Mac always made me wonder if reverse engineering macOS onto an iPad would’ve come out of people getting their hands on it

[@oof56000]

I think the most interesting thing about the Mac transition kit is that it’s cinebench performance is nearly the same as the 2013-15 MacBook Pro 15 inch models

[@Rosa_AI]

that ltt plug made me chuckle, intresting video! thanks!

[@met420]

big sur identified as 10.16 in apps for soo long

[@ericwood3709]

The fact that this thing had twice the storage of the base storage in even a new M4 Mac is shameful. I hate that they continue to make 256 GB the baseline and charge so much to add more storage, and that, of course, it is not at all user-upgradable.

[@asyrafkori]

LTT STORE shout out lol

[@Grif91]

I upvoted you, but then I realized I was the 70th up vote, so I had to take it back.

[@tabbypears]

I remember when WWDC2020 happened, I was watching your videos constantly, and I was really excited to hear your thoughts on Apple Silicon, its cool to see you talking about this unique transitional era after 4 years.

[@anumeon]

"And what is new in Flynn,, i mean Encom OS-12?" "This year we put a 12 on the box"

[@raiebread]

A TRON Legacy meme is always a pleasant surprise

[@Shamoss1080]

0:12 Doesn't look like an iPad to me...

[@space232_YT_avation_and_space]

Lol

[@Damglador]

Lmao

[@hajjdawood]

The internals are an iPad Pro from the time

[@renargues]

fun silly little thing: the recovery screen when it’s bricked is a sad mac from the macintosh days. i think this got changed to the normal one when big sur launched-

[@Sappharad]

The "instantly powers on when you plug it in" problem is probably because you had no batteries in it. I had one back then and it behaved like a normal Mac Mini and I kept it turned off when I wasn't using it.

[@AndyGraceMedia]

I had one until Apple asked for it back. Totally NDAs on everything (DO NOT TEAR IT DOWN OR BENCHMARK IT) but I was still really impressed even with the Beta builds of the OS. Actually I managed to make it run really well; Maps was outstanding and fast, even with the A12Z. My focus was CLI stuff and I helped with the effort to port Homebrew and a bunch of open source code over to ARM - particularly stuff with x86_64 assembly as I'd been a ARM assembly coder since the first ARM chip on the Acorn Archimedes. Before long though, Apple wanted everything back! Yes They tracked me down and they did credit me the full amount but it had to be used within 12 months! Still, was great to get an early look and I waited for the M1 MBA before diving in again.

[@joeykeilholz925]

First test of apple silicon has 16 GB ram in tandem with an iPad SoC and m4s ship with 8 GB ram default to this day 😂

[@op4l4]

Actually this is wrong, all current Macs ship with 16GB of RAM (including the old M2 MacBook Air)

[@aliozanerbektas]

I opened the video, I disli... Wait what? No vacuum video? o.O

[@n00bstackz]

There’s still an sponsored segment tho 😂

[@grilsegrils9330]

But they don't even state when it is available. So the 49 dollars could potentially be a suss moneygrab. Maybe better to pay the 351 dollars extra for the vacc

[@ntnwwnet]

THIS is what we want from Snazzy! Yesterday’s video was… unfortunate.

[@snazzy]

Yesterday’s video helps funds like 6 months of these videos.

[@yaowww]

⁠@@snazzy KZbin ad revenue doesn’t fund these videos?

[@Metamine0]

@@yaowwwad sense makes up a lot less of KZbinrs revenues nowadays. Sponsors are the main way Ytubers make money

[@isomorphic97]

And kudos that he doesn’t used the sponsored video as his sole video this week! maybe uploading the normal video first and the sponsored as a “Bonus” is the trick.

[@uramfekete]

​​@@yaowww Ad Sense revenue took a hard dip many years ago. It's a drop in the bucket and isn't enough for these channels to be sustainable, let alone profitable. Hence the rise of ad integrations, dedicated product videos (like the vacuum one), and so on. It pains me to see that people take it all for granted. Don't like the vacuum video? Who gives a shit, don't watch it, but it paid for the next 10 videos, so it's a win for the creator.

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

Wouldn't it have been better and smarter of Apple to exchange all development kits for “real” Mac Minis free of charge?

[@cheapdrunk8531]

i think they gave $500 gift cards when they were sent back in, so basically your money back towards an apple silicon device. or to spend on your genshin impact addiction

[@wirklich_Lukas]

That shows, that if Apple just invested a bit in bringing MacOS to the iPad, it could work very well.

[@ryanzmuda3167]

Great job dos dude for keeping it.

[@joshwoodland4845]

I thought I was having a cerebrovascular event when I kept hearing MOSFET batteries 😉. Cool vid man, I was curious about these things. Pretty innovative idea actually. Good example of Apple thinking outside of the box.

[@awsomewe360]

You saying that Apple finished with Intel with their tenth gen core i chips made me think of a future where Apple was still working with Intel when they released their 12th and 13th gens. With Apple's restrictive designs and the lingering death of those chips, I wonder what kind of catastrophe would have happened. Apple definitely dodged a bullet without even knowing!

[@absolutely1337]

apple silicon really is game changing and bar setting. can't wait to get a M1 one of these days.

[@oimateusaqui]

I hate the fact that Apple can turn useful hardware into waste and nothing happens 💀

[@SilentRoses]

technically china ship the logic boards by the boatload. They snip a piece out typically but have been proven repairable! Turns out watching on, that same friend that sent you it i watched repair it haha!

[@nicomonkeyboy]

Can it vacuum the floor?

[@snazzy]

It sucks, but not in that way, no.

[@arushdubey6670]

casual plug to the ltt screw driver was great

[@supremebeme]

buzzy i was just thinking about LTT before you did the call back

[@Kyle-xv5kv]

These ADK's could be a catalyst for something special. If jailbreaking ipad OS alongside dualbooting is still possible, in theory it should be possible to fudge mac OS on to one of those slabs?

[@neddy1287]

There been a few of these boards cut near the power plane area this was done by apple purposely to render the hardware useless only one person on youtube was able to repair the cut pcb and rewired the broken traces near the power connector

[@FLUFFS]

I would love to see a test with the dolphin emulator 👀

[@ericwood3709]

I wonder if Fedora Asahi Remix (a version of Fedora Linux for Apple Silicon) runs on it. That would be an interesting way to keep it relevant and enable some comparative testing. I can only assume that the Arm-native apps available there would be more forgiving of the older architecture.

[@davidazuara213]

Love that snazzy is back =,)

[@karellen00]

I'd love to see the older transition kit, a Pentium 4 based Mac Pro (or maybe it was still a power mac?)

[@Motawa88]

Still pissed that apple stopped supporting any ipa on Mac

[@pneuma23093]

Some continuity errors? CPU shroud was open before in a couple of shots before actually opening it. Great video though. Will you be reviewing the latest iPhones?

[@ericwood3709]

GOG Galaxy has never worked well on the Mac, in my experience. But you could download your game directly from the site and install it that way. You don't need Galaxy to use your GOG games.

[@forDankTerpsweGROW]

plenty floating around on the net of these

[@GMJ33]

i feel bad for being an apple fan boi but that guy parkouring at 00:36 seconds was so cool lmfao

[@Thomas_Dye]

Used to have one of them, they was really good. Mines still on my Apple account

[@Danny.._]

i remember watching the video about repairing this one

[@clintebbesen120]

Should have been like the Apple TV Dev kit that cost $1 and we got to keep them.

[@3ractnodi]

You shouldn’t need GOG Galaxy. Can’t you just download the program like on Windows?

[@cthellis]

“Dear viewer, that was the problem: my brain.” I feel like the world would be much better off if people weee more willing to realize this and laugh with it.

[@cthellis]

THE NEW OFFICE BETTER HAVE EVEN LOUDER TRUCKS

[@deathsyth8888]

"The Mac that Tim Cook doesn't want you to remember!"

[@BoomerTech]

Yeah, mostly because it proves macOS has been able to run natively on ipad pros since the A12z, yet here we are with M4's on glorified phone software

[@jeffsims7386]

The dremeling is actually to make them run again, apple techs just cut them with side cutters or something. DosDude shows it in his video.

[@SHADOW543121]

so what you're telling me is that that mac version did/does have internal support for that ipad soc therefore possible to run that on the ipad it was based on?

[@RezTechTube]

IIRC it even have the touchscreen drivers because, well it’s an iPad

[@Lardzor]

@17:45 I wouldn't have logged into the app-store with your personal account. If Apple detects that you are using illegal hardware, they could say that you violated their terms of service and permanently ban your account along with all of your downloaded purchases that use that account to validate the license. That happened to me when I jail-broke my Playstation 3. Sony detected my Jail-broken PS3, banned my account and I lost access to all the games I bought online and installed. Not just for the Playstation 3, but also games for the Playstation 4 because I bought them using the same account.

[@00FFFF]

That LTTstore plug got me to question reality for a second! xD

[@Andy-ri1ns]

Your Apple nerdery is top notch.

[@Alex_Official4493]

Timmy called, he wants his dtk back💅

[@dan9700]

love your videos, so unique :) one of my fave KZbinrs

[@g3user1usa]

It's a shame that Apple never built a separate Apple Silicon GPU coprocessor that could run AAA games with ease. The one-chip strategy seems a bit lame for a company with so much cash. Apple could put that processor in a Mac Studio or Mac Pro to make them really powerful graphics machines. I guess Apple doesn't feel it's worth the time and effort to do something like that.

[@hkaya]

Can't you upgrade the OS? to 14 or 15?

[@Butterscotch_96]

I think it’s stuck on some beta version

[@hatsonchickens]

No later updates were made compatible with the DTK. The DTK can't even run official builds of macOS Big Sur, it's running a beta build of it. There's no updates since why would Apple want to update a system that was going to be returned to them within 6 months.

[@gerhardjohansson5431]

Thank god its not a vaccum video

[@apwelsh]

I don’t know about your discovery, but my DTK definitely worked with my thunbernolt iMac for 40gbs network trunk between the two computers, and the network bridge apprared in macOS as a thunderbolt bridge.

[@snazzy]

Uh, I’m not so confident that’s correct as the DTK documentation explicitly states there is no Thunderbolt.

[@JimmyLamStudio]

If you send the crash report to Apple, will they raid your home?

[@harrisedgar]

"You are late on your payments Linus..!!" n Hahahaha..!!!

[@veremlim]

This video seems to be shot in a surprisingly darker environment than your other videos.

[@AustralianMurderTurtle]

Quinn, the true test of the Narwal is glitter.

[@kidtech7475]

I can confirm that apple now has a bounty on him.

[@oncecrowned]

Bro got a mac devkit

[@maxherman11]

Quinn that is kinda risky being signed in with your Apple ID on that, don't you think they can track the serial number of any DTK connected to any Apple Account? (Unless you created a dummy ID for this in which case it doesn't matter)

[@edbwestlund]

I think he already blew his cover.

[@JamesR624]

And yet.... an M4 iPad still "doesn't have enough power" to run macOS or even just actual apps like Finder and Terminal. (No, the dumpsterfire that is iOS Files doesn't cut it.)

[@IgorMgtowandVideoGames]

It has. iOS and iPadOS are just crippled mobile operating systems (effectively a prison) and apple intentionally doesn’t want to add more useful features, they even took out hardware virtualization support in iOS and iPadOS 16

[@JamesR624]

@@IgorMgtowandVideoGames oh I know. Hence the quotes.

[@janoo85]

i dont remember where but i saw the vid when a youtuber did that damage actualy saved this mac from some shortage or crack like this

[@nathandeunk3533]

At 0:13, "the iPad that ran macOS"?

[@jakeKnoxville579]

A12Z on iPad Pro 2018. The DTK model has A12Z

[@LazyPCRehab]

I wish we could still install any IPA on Mac OS.

[@snazzy]

Same here.

[@AlfaRomeo128]

a spectacular art created by apple but the weirdest sick of them have to destroy it

[@sagul5353]

why thers a 3 slot for the CMOS battery?

[@jperih]

@dosdude1 when is Apple going to employ you as a consultant?

[@PeHLC]

Sounds like a good device to install a headless Linux!

[@Simon-ui6db]

"worlds worst speaker" guess you never installed the driver on a 486 to get pcm sound through the internal beeper then. 🤣🤣

[@JeskidoYT]

of course Apple would trip and fumble and fall and then trip again with ANY dev kit

[@EugeneKam]

Linus not giving people what they are owed? What else is new 🤣

[@alienrefugee51]

I can't believe Apple had the balls to only offer $200 back. Oh wait... yes I can.

[@hershmysson]

wow macos nowadays looks straight out of a linux distro

[@sebahattinsaral]

Apple wanted to destroy this board. Thats why it has that weird thing.

[@axilleas]

Oh, you've got my Mac's dad! (M1 mini)

[@futureproofstudio]

Yeah Apple will never invite this guy to a keynote after this that's for sure

[@Krendaaloor]

I've been watching your videos for over a year now since I've switched from using my windows computer to an m2 pro macbook pro for college work. I have noticed that external displays don't look great on macos (very Blurry) besides a very few super expensive displays, looking at you pro display xdr and studio display. Have you made any videos on macos compatible displays

[@johnconniffe5234]

Generally any native 1440p screen ( or 5k, as 1440 x4 ) work better than any screen based on "native 1080p",. But yes, Macs tend to mad cheap monitors look cheap.

[@brhoom2013]

I love this dude 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@winsucker7755]

This was put together from just a motherboard, and it's not made from developers HW.

[@ParkourBrian]

I want a DTK so bad 😭