Apple WWDC 2004 Keynote - The first aluminum Apple Cinema Displays introduction

[@Jushwa]

Steve was so good at presenting, he was so passionate about the products in a way that didn’t seem fake. They were truly his life’s work.

[@strange78x]

2013 and almost 10 years later, still the proud owner of two 30" cinema displays - my favorite displays ever.

[@mlcs]

Do you still have them?

[@jaimeduncan6167]

A dude configured the display to use with his Mac studio. This machine keep going.

[@vpns1006]

2023 20 years later, another proud owner of dual 30” cinema displays running alongside 2010 MacPro. They are rock solid. Planning to get few aftermarket adapters to pair them with mac mini.

[@LUKAS-bb4jc]

@@vpns1006The times were are talking about are getting insane. A 20 years old product and a 10 years old comment and video 😳

[@yeknommonkey]

@@mlcsI’ve got 3 of the bad boys got two new back in 2006 as I thought if I’m use img one of my Mac i’ll want the same for the pc and now have an extra one for in the house to plug into my MacBook Pro. they are still pretty awesome, as a side by side with an iMac 5k they do seems a bit less than sharp but the lower pixel count means they are much less of a drag on the graphics resource to use them.

[@Antphoneigh]

I missed Apple back when they used to push their tech and provide crazy solutions to the pro market. Yes, they acknowledged that there was a pro market.

[@sinecosine7493]

Damian Chmielewski Until it breaks. Oof.

[@jasonk9779]

@@sinecosine7493 Which, to be fair, doesn't happen all that much.

[@atisbasak]

Apple still cares a lot about the pro market.

[@jameswilkins3813]

Apple silicon says hi.

[@Lexington365]

I still use the cinema 30 today, and its the best monitor I have ever used.

[@elffloris123]

me to, i use two of them :) loving them, I also really like the matte effect, instead of glossy..

[@francescoalbanese2260]

Incredible!

[@eraldway]

Still using the 23" to this day with a M1 Mac Mini. I purchased it in a yard sale for 50 bucks a couple years ago. It still had its shrink wrap around. Truly an Amazing screen.

[@mojoblues66]

I have the 30 hooked up to my M1 Mini. What adapter do you use?

[@dominicpascal5512]

1:20 I would like to buy that drop-dead aluminum stand, how much? It comes WITH the display, you saying??? Are you guys CRAZY?! Leaving so much revenue on the table!!

[@Michael-eg3hc]

Dominic Pascal you know that Steve probably would’ve done the same thing

[@joeykeilholz925]

I hope you like that new iMac...

[@ViddyWellBrother]

2023, nearly 20 years later, and I have three 30" Cinema Displays. One of which has been in use for 10 hours a day every day since I bought it brand new in 2004. Jobs-era quality is unbelievably good, and these displays still look amazing!

[@mattstone8878]

Do you get image ghosting on yours?

[@MartinRMcGowan]

Standard 4K is 8.2 million pixels, so to see this kind of resolution back when HD games were running at 1024x768 is incredible.

[@ChristopherTEKX]

5:45 so cool to see how he’s enjoying the moment to say what is even cooler. He was unique…

[@railwaystationmaster]

This guy was an absolute genius I was riveted to his keynote presentations , hung on to his every word mesmerised by his magnetism and still use 2 of these 30 inch monsters today ,a daily reminder when the Apple keynote produce one more thing that was usually magical , R.I.P. SJ.

[@thicks7870]

My school had a whole lab full of 30 inch cinemas hooked up to Mac pros and it was so fun working on them in High school, making music and doing video work.

[@meropealcyone]

I am watching the introduction of the ACD 30 on an ACD 30. Still works perfectly.

[@ilpatongi]

I saw the resolutions and said “Well that’s a bit expensive” And then I remembered that this keynote was in 2004, I don’t even know where you could’ve found the power to drive such a big resolution even for today standards

[@pyeltd.5457]

What do you mean even for today's standards? We now have like 50 inch 4 and 8k wallpaper TVs. But for 2004, a 30 inch DVI screen was alot, so your awnser was in the video. Use 2 DVIs at the same time on that graphics card he showed. I thought Jame May taught you this in the make up room.

[@obtainiumgaming4472]

Still use my 30 to this day. Works like new and still relevant in every way.

[@jasonk9779]

I have three of them with two connected to my 5K iMac.Love them!

[@isaacpalmer3917]

Coming back to old keynotes, it’s amazing to see the features that became the foundation for so many things we use every day. Camera APIs? Share sheets? Tap to focus? Huge!

[@TheJRSvideos]

I miss the Apple that would push their pro products to the very extreme, to such an extent that it was just ridiculous. It was a fun time to be a pro user with money, and no one could complain that Apple wasn’t doing enough. They didn’t just keep up with the rest of the market, they blew it out of the water.

[@JamesBond235ASMR]

I just got this monitor my grandfather used to use, the 30 inch version as my secondary and I love it. Its a nice as some modern monitors and looks and feels better then alot of the new ones. Plus its great for me streaming on twitch makes things easy to read with people chatting.

[@ransom182]

Extremely impressive for 2004! I don't they've made a better looking enclosure yet, very classic, timeless design.

[@l21n18]

Their old products still look very nice today

[@JorgeJuniorr]

I still have that 23-inch display and I still think it’s gorgeous.

[@Paniekzaaiertje]

4:23 and yet I’m seeing that full image on my phone! Amazing! ...

[@denisezeidler4892]

it’s awesome how technology advances now you can hold that device with that same pixels as this one fit right in full-touch capacitive display and lots of gestures you can do on your phone I have iPhone SE 2020 it’s my first phone ever.

[@matthewrawling54]

@@denisezeidler4892 iPhone se 2020 has a 720p display

[@AppleBman]

“We used to dream about this stuff. Now we build it.” Miss him so much.

[@Slimecrazy234]

Watching this on my 30" ACD!

[@SchioAlves]

How did the florescent backlight hold up?

[@TheTCOLL]

Thats insane that the new Imac they released is smaller than that screen and its the whole computer!

[@paulmercurio6904]

2023 and I have two on my desk that I use every day. The best

[@detlaslegacy]

Got one of these 23'' guys a few days ago and all I can say is, good displays stay good.

[@anthony-ob6lw]

Watching this on my Cinema Display HD 23". Still a great display!

[@mitchellgr33n4]

Watching this in December 2022 on a 30" Cinema Display I picked up this morning!

[@lzh4950]

4:04 And 14 years later that same resolution on the 30" Cinema Display now fits into a 13.3" display (on a MacBook Pro)

[@aegonthedragon7303]

Steve wasn’t kidding; 19 years old and these are still fantastic monitors. Personally own a 23” model and holy hell, the only model which beats it is the 27” Thunderbolt model also from Apple.

[@HatedJared]

Honestly, everyone talking about how the new Pro Display costs $5000, but adjusted for inflation the 30" model would be around $4500 today. Obviously crazy high prices either way but the pricing isnt that inconsistent from what they did in the past.

[@raikiri23]

Man, it's easy to forget you weren't always able to get a 1080p panel for less than 200 dollars. I got a 1440p monitor for the first time THIS YEAR (2018), having one in 2004 would've been incredible. Even if there was barely any content to actually take in on it.

[@VMRDY]

Watching this in 2016. There are still no iMacs with a 30" display and no 30" Apple monitors.

[@ransom182]

True. I remember seeing the 30" display in person a couple times back in the day - was always impressed and very envious.

[@koolioperson5534]

Eh we got up to 27in

[@DeviatingVapors]

because everyone is too cheap / i have thankfully had a 30” for many, many years, and the efficiency of working on them vs smaller ones is fantastic, so worth every penny .. tho there is a slight flaw running them on the nMP, but while having two 30s would be great, i have a 30, 23 + 20” instead to cover all my graphics needs, as bigger is not always better .. there is some DVI limitation, so only 3 can be used at once unless each display has a 110.oo adapter vs having 6 thunderbolt displays native / needing dual-link DVI is obviously cost prohibitive for iMac price points, but when cost is thrown out the window, they made a 5K iMac.

[@sriramsundar8388]

Now there's no Apple displays. You can only get LG Ultrafine 5K displays.

[@HavenMarches]

Who the fuck needs a 30 inch display, that would practically be a TV at that point

[@yoshi31713]

Steve Jobs was one of the greatest comedians ever! 😂

[@VividMac101]

Apple in 2019: $1000 USD for a monitor stand.

[@sriramsundar8388]

The new iMac hinge is very reminiscent of this cinema display hinge

[@DuhAverageJoe]

I forgot the iMacs now looked much like the displays then lol

[@bneyens]

My life is now complete. I have 2 x 30 Cinema displays on the newest mac pro. 5870 and 5770 video cards.

[@NewRepublicMapper]

When The Display Itself Is Expensive but The Stand Is Inluded

[@eltocodogo]

I think it’s funny that the monitor is more expensive than the computer itself.

[@denisezeidler4892]

in inflation it would be more expensive nowadays but the display seems decent now but back than in 2004 it was krazy.

[@supercrazymario404]

Well technically you could put 4 of those cards in and drive up to 8 of the displays which has the same amount of pixels as driving 2 5K displays! I just bought one of the 30in displays finally for $110 and I'm waiting for it to come and it actually comes with the power supply which is so freaking expensive and go for at least $70. It's a shame they didn't update the model number to reflect the updated specs of the very quiet refresh when they took these 3 displays in 2006 and increased the brightness and contrast on all of them. The brightness on the 30in is even better than that of the 27in LED cinema display and what's even cooler is that the thing is fully backlit even if it does use CCFL tubes instead of LEDs because the LED models only had a strip on the bottom that shined up through the sheets and got diffused but with the evenly laid out horizontal backlight lamps, it makes it look so nice! The only downside to CCFL is that over time they go dimmer and the ends become darker than towards the middle so the light distribution isn't as nice.

[@killerlifealbum]

Miss the Apple Cinema Display design the plastic was so nice

[@dgw4049]

Watching in 2020 on 3x of these 23 inch displays. Still looking good. I seriously had to debate whether I should edit photos I took today on these displays or my 27 inch lg 4k displays. I chose the 16yo apple cinema displays cause I just trust the colors more.

[@apalboi1985]

2024 and I have the 20 inch

[@benhatto]

Back in the day I had 2 of the 30 inch models and a top of the line powermac g5. It was one of the best setups I've ever had but my bank called me because they thought it was fraudulent.

[@FiveFishAudio]

The first 23" Cinema Display I bought was $1999. The 5th Cinema Display I bought yesterday was $60. I love thes quality of these monitors. Even my Raspberry Pi is connected to one!

[@danieladamczyk08]

I just bought a 23 inch acrylic model for 1 cent and 22 dollar shipping on ebay.

[@natekenny7106]

People in the comments are making fun of the prices but do you remember how much flat panel displays were back then? $3299 is absolutely nothing for a 30 inch display with that resolution at the time. 2560x1600?? I remember in 2002, Sharp's 22 inch LCD TV with a resolution of just 854x480 was over $2500. Samsung's 15 inch LCD TV in 2002 was $1200. For a non-HD tv. Of course these prices dropped rapidly over the next 3-4 years but still. How soon we forget...

[@maladjustedtv]

Watching in 2019 on 1 of my 3 x 30" Cinema Displays :)

[@atisbasak]

Are you gonna buy the Pro Display XDR

[@JabbaDuhHut]

I bought one as soon as it came out. Great bit of kit. But imagine the huge bits of hardware required to run it. Today a properly equipped laptop could push four of them.

[@marcobornerswissdatahoarde4856]

I'm just waiting Apple Tbt3 Display 2019

[@macprorocks]

Well 2 years later and still better than the competition :)

[@XanthosAcanthus]

I got 2 free high quality dual link DVi cables from my school's Apple store because they didn't know what they were for... about 10 years ago

[@realswagoverlord69420]

And it came with the stand.

[@Sandia49]

So basically the powermac g5 was pushing UHD resolution. That's impressive.

[@skyemac8]

The golden age with Steve.

[@RoRcrashslave]

I am in 2013 and the cinema display is still my favorite display

[@lundsweden]

The design is still pretty much the same today, but man the display is SO thick by today's standards.

[@JacobDragyn]

3:49 Is that Francis Ford Coppola?

[@mspeter97]

Man, he could sell you anything... Go buy those 2 30" ACD at $3299 a pop

[@ilpatongi]

Le Docteur For the time, no one could’ve driven those massive resolution back then. I mean, in 2004 1080p wasn’t even on TVs

[@pyeltd.5457]

Jeremy Clarkson it was all about 720p hdmi on TVs back in 2004

[@Arilith]

@@pyeltd.5457 HDMI? More like 480P SCART in Europe / 720i SCART :)

[@maladjustedtv]

Watching from my 2 x 30" cinema displays in 2018

[@fertexas]

I wouldn't change my 30" for another display. Timeless design in my home office, announced by Jobs...

[@funjointgames6667]

Back when the display included the stand haha

[@daanodinot]

0:54 So that's the introduction of the current iMac design, which we've had for almost 15 years.

[@jon-erich9752]

Not quite. The current iMac design came about in 2007. Even though there were more changes in 2009 and 2012, the overall aesthetic was based on the 2007 design. So Apple has had the same iMac design since at least 2012, though there are rumors that the first Apple Silicon-based iMac will feature a brand new design.

[@daanodinot]

​@@jon-erich9752 Depends on where you draw the line. Abstract away the details and the basic form factor was introduced here.

[@ericcaires6423]

I still have the 30 inch display and it still works and looks just like the day i took it out of the box

[@Techozoom]

I have 2 on my PC, got both for 150 Euro. They are pretty great, but one of them has an very yellowish touch to it. But for 16 year old Displays they are amazing

[@Dracogame]

I had one of these, loved it.

[@utube9000]

Director Francis Ford Coppola in attendance at 3:49

[@theshadowman1398]

Golden Apple years.

[@agou1980]

The god of presentation

[@CompuKonstantin]

Back when Apple products were worth it... Damn, I'm still using my 2008 Mac Pro and it's almost better than the new low-end MacBook Pros

[@jonas1015119]

2k 30 inch displays, in 2004. Think about that, most people had CRTs at that point. 32" 2k monitors became somewhat popular 2 or 3 years ago at a more affordable price. Could you even use any kind of 3D Application at that resolution with the hardware back then?

[@paxundpeace9970]

Yes, apple did show some work they did when they launched the imac and when they launched the G5 Mac which was very powerfull. The animation would anyway run on a smaller window at 480p or 720p anyway.

[@zuccolon]

5:44 deja vu wallpaper :D steve jobs predicted macos sierra

[@sriramsundar8388]

Looks more like El Capitan or Yosemite than Sierra.

[@tomtom98]

Watching this on my 30" Cinema Display and I had NO IDEA there were 2 Firewire and 2 USB ports...

[@pyeltd.5457]

How. Can't you see the ports when you brought it and the cables hanging out

[@stacattos]

Some of the women in the public really liked the 30inch idea

[@ArhamQazi]

The language from jobs is just so friendly compared to the new robot like keynotes

[@thomasevans5706]

Still using a 23 inch in 2020, works great.

[@nitokoyotsuba]

I still using the 30” one today

[@realshompa]

Its fun that displays have not evolved since Apple invented the 30 inch display in mid 2004! 2012 will finally be the year that its technically possible to have a higher resolution display with minimum 60Hz thanks to Thunderbolt and/or AMDs fast HDMI.

[@macman5914]

GEE APPLE were groundbreaking back then , lead by a mercurial pied piper figure , the other tech companies must have cried in their beer when they watched these amazing keynotes reveal such futuristic products as the groundbreaking 30inch ACD , sadly since the passing of their captain SB , its Apple trying to keep pace with its competitors , and mostly falling short , the hardware now seems samey and uninspiring , the keynotes reflecting this are now unconvincing lacking passion and leadership , in the 50th anniversary of the moon landing isn't it time to revisit the past glories and bring them back to life ?

[@utubekullanicisi]

Now in 2020, Apple is selling a 32” 6K display that is 6016x3384. How far we’ve come

[@KozenaDrzka]

In 2004 I used 17-inch CRT and computer running Windows 98...

[@RyDawg96]

Anyone have the introduction of the Cinema HD Display in 2002?

[@SlinkystudioInfo]

This was awesome!

[@horeageorgian7766]

As I have never seen these and my comparison would be the 27" iMacs (from late 2009 upwards), would anyone care to make a succint one versus the other list? How does the iMac compare with these (especially the 30")? Obviously the size differs and also these are matte, were the iMac is not. But what about color, resolution, viewing angles. The iMacs have IPS panels, so theoretically I expect a big difference, but who knows?

[@freespeechadvocate7492]

Still shit hot displays today, better than most Acer, LG standard HD monitors...

[@34skyline]

I also can't wait for LED displays for desktops especially the 30-Inch cinema it needs a update badly but I hope to see the 30 inch goes LED this year I got my money ready just waiting on Apple to release the damn thing.

[@evandernilsen2579]

the sony sdm-p234 has the same specs as this monitor. its from 2004 and has 1920x1200 pixels and costs 2000$ ast same as this monitor and its 80 watts of power! and the weigh is 21lbs so its 10kg

[@maytizevb]

but is more easy found a cinema display

[@truthkeeperfilms]

Lol, Apple was making those 30" displays for $210 and selling them for $3299... no wonder Apple became a $2 trillion dollar company. People blindly paid anything to be "first"

[@lukabosnjak3829]

It was probably the best monitor in the world at that time...

[@terrorrbabbletwo]

Listen to that applause after he announces the $3300 price tag... lol. I love Apple, but damn that price tag is ridiculous! Especially for a monitor.

[@Redwood21]

you have to remember that this was in 2004, so that display was one of the only in the world with a high resolution and size.

[@maytizevb]

@@Redwood21 yes, in 2004 the ips tecnology are rare.

[@SketchTurnerZero]

@@maytizevb IPS rare even today if we talk about REAL pure IPS

[@HikikomoriDev]

5:20 oh Steve...

[@griffensander]

Apple 2004: "$1299 for the 20" (cinema display)" Apple 2019: "The stand will be $999" Any one else come here after "Dub Dub"DC?

[@simonsalazar2106]

Steve Jobs was so good at these keynotes that I just feel like buying one of these in 2021

[@Sven88bac]

Nowhere online. But you might be able to find it on various torrent websites.

[@hippievogelei]

true it was around 3 grand in 2005

[@adityasairamnamburi]

OMG! The base variant os Cinema Display of 2004 is as much as the MacBook Pro's price. Thanks god for making the new one cheaper.

[@thebusynothing]

he's back though!

[@apacher6433]

That's what time is doing with prices, yesterday I bought an HD30 "in excellent condition and with a native working power supply for $ 174 !!! Now I have 2 such monitors. I bought the first HD30" 10 years ago for $ 1100. I'm from Ukraine.

[@Rajesh_0190]

does it have hdr?

[@spencersmat]

it was funny when he announced the price for the 30" like noone applauded because it was over $3000

[@CollinKeegan]

Anyone else still using one of these things as a second monitor?

[@XanthosAcanthus]

Oh yes... the beautiful stand... wait.

[@chukchee]

You can now buy one for $50....with a bad power supply.