Really cool stuff! I had absolutely no idea how those corrosion inhibitors worked.
@julian-io5wl5 жыл бұрын
Why does the sulphur stick to the metal ?
@rusdanibudiwicaksono18795 жыл бұрын
@@julian-io5wl Same reason oxygen and water can stick to metal; their atom can easily 'capture' metal's more wayward metal's electron. ...Or something like that. There's more sophisticated explanation, but at this moment that's all I can remember from my HS Chemistry. 😅😅
@oskimac5 жыл бұрын
i was just thinking "put together nilered and ben krasnow on a lab," and then i find your comment! you two are awesome.
@crimsonred39522 жыл бұрын
The gods united
@Thedailygrind902 жыл бұрын
the corrosion inhibitor is adsorbed on the steel preventing the redox reaction. you can take it a step further by adding a VCI that will protect the vapor space above the oil line in stationary equipment.
@bertholtappels10815 жыл бұрын
“Hope you found that interesting?” Understatement of the year. This is nothing short of awesome. I am not a chemist and I have no real immediate need for knowledge about corrosion inhibition. But I learned an incredible amount. Thanks for the experiment and the best-on-KZbin explanation style.
@volvo095 жыл бұрын
Yes, this was incredible! Now I'm just left wondering what wears away this protectant? Knowing this will be so much easier than greasing stuff to protect it.
@FrankGutowski-ls8jt5 жыл бұрын
Bert Holtappels He’s very good about explaining the methods and logic for his analyses.
@marcmckenzie51105 жыл бұрын
Bert, I'm with you. Chemistry was my one nemesis subject in college - loved it but so much of it seemed arbitrary (40 years later, oh but could I take it over again with a seasoned brain, patience, and a whole lot more discipline!). I have a small machine shop and though it is very arid here on the Colorado front range, as the population rapidly grows and climate change, I'm seeing rust sneak in more than ever over the years. Though he really didn't speak to it, notice that WD-40 did among the best. That's great, because I use it like cheap beer to wipe down about anything in the shop if I don't have something more specific to use - to that gives some economical hope!
@vergaburro26134 жыл бұрын
I'm a chemist working on an anticorrosion polymer. I find this very useful as well.
@simonecasolo31225 жыл бұрын
I am corrosion engineer in the subsea business. You did a great job! N-compounds stick and protect copper alloys (brass, bronze, etc) while S-compound protect steels, this os why we use both N & S. You should work with VpCI (vapour phase inhibitors) we use them in closed plastic bags for storing electronics during sea transport
@AgentOffice4 жыл бұрын
How is Rust-Oleum oil spray?
@simplyalan7260 Жыл бұрын
Could you recommend a good corrosion inhibiting commercial spray for car?
@eghareabuwa16859 ай бұрын
Pls what are the Laboratory test to determine the efficiency of a corrosion inhibitor?
@Cs137622 ай бұрын
N compounds also destroy brass in particular and can also dissolve other copper alloys... be very careful
@mozkitolife54375 жыл бұрын
"Quite a nice smell. Almost minty." Nose falls off.
@HPD11715 жыл бұрын
known to the state of cancer to cause California
@MandrakeFernflower4 жыл бұрын
@@HPD1171 korntackt
@seattlefiorelli4 жыл бұрын
i also wonder. . . does a person want to pursue.. what is this unexpected thing.. what are its properties etc
@adonisds4 жыл бұрын
Get real. people smoke crack and their noses don't fall. This is nothing like crack, as the thumbnail clearly shows
@mozkitolife54374 жыл бұрын
@@adonisds "This is nothing like crack" - adonisds 2020
@placidesulfurik5 жыл бұрын
Dude, never stop posting. You're the best channel on YT, period.
@chemicalvamp5 жыл бұрын
Isn't he a good teacher!? :D
@seanridley62795 жыл бұрын
@@chemicalvamp dont let him know that he might start to charge money
@GogogoFolowMe5 жыл бұрын
The depth of research exposed in each video is worth more than gold
@rwbishop5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video thanks! For a related pdf from the FAA covering aircraft corrosion control, go to the FAA's website, then under 'Advisory Circulars', search for 43-4B. It's about 6.6MB [1], and covers a wide range of materials. As you can imagine, corrosion has always been a major nemesis of aircraft, and a lot of time, effort & research has gone into it's prevention & mitigation. While at the FAA website note there are many other very informative 'advisory circulars'[2], ranging from single page, through multi volume text books... and all free! (Another great one is AC 43.13-1B, titled 'Acceptable Methods, Techniques, and Practices - Aircraft Inspection and Repair'. [1] Note that recently cancelled 43-4A is there as well. [2] The 'AC' prefix seen frequently on/in these documents merely stands for 'Advisory Circular'... the FAA likes & uses that terminology a lot.
@TechIngredients5 жыл бұрын
Very well done! The synthesis was interesting and suggests that there might be some applications where this molecule is bonded to resins like epoxy and polyester to produce corrosion inhibiting coatings and paints. Thanks
@Thedailygrind902 жыл бұрын
2 years late but I work for a company that manufacturers corrosion inhibitor permanent and temporary coatings as well as many other products like soaps, solvents, corrosion removing/inhibitor eviromentaly safe acids and many other products that fit niche applications. I really enjoy your content and was excited to comment because you showed interest in my field of work.
@hinz15 жыл бұрын
Chloride ions definitely have an influence on corrosion rate, it's not just the conductivity. It's also how well the ions can complex the iron, chloride ions do that much better than i.e. formiate salts.
@defenestrated235 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, Chuck Norris beat me to it! I will add that chlorine is in particular a good complexing agent for many transition metals, compared to, e.g. sulfate. This is why you need HCl in Aqua Regia - the AuCl4+ (chloroaurate) ion is much more soluble than Ag+, otherwise the dissolution would take impossibly long. H2SO4 + HNO3 does not aqua regia make, because SO4 does not complex as nicely. So yes, any electrolyte increases conductivity, which enhances corrosion, but counterions that complex with the metal and increase its solubility, like halides, really crank up the corrosion rate.
@goranaxelsson14095 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. I've always seen chloride as a catalyst for rusting. Iron chloride is both soluble as hygroscopic. It will absorb water from the atmosphere so rusting will continue even if the metal looks dry. For more on this topic, look up lawrencite diseace in meteorites. Another area of interest is conservation of metal objects recovered from salt water that archeologists run into. The common way to get the chloride out is by electrolysis in lye. The high pH environment is protecting the object while the chloride ions migrate out of the object.
@victortitov17405 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comment. The "conductivity" explanation by Ben sounded like total bullshit to me. Water with ions conducts because ions cn move around in water under electric fields. Having more ions around should only reduce the influence of electric field onto one particular ion because the field is quickly shielded by other ions moving. I was about to send this video to thunderfoot =)
@Garganzuul5 жыл бұрын
IIRC, chloride also causes 'depassivation', which shows up as greenish areas in rust. I have not conducted the research to say anything about this with certainty though.
@mannys91305 жыл бұрын
@@victortitov1740 >ignore everything else in this vid >Shit on one error which would most likely be addressed with a follow-up video or pinned comment. >For extra shit, try to send this well produced vid to a 3rd party who tears apart pseudoscience and marketing stupidity. You're smart, but not very bright Victor. 😒
@nunyabusiness85383 жыл бұрын
it’s not just the abundance of information that you have, but it’s your cadence, sentence flow, and timing on your videos that make them endlessly rewatchable to me.
@cliffjones78685 жыл бұрын
From my Employment Working for the Navy in electronics I would suggest to Try Dow Corning®3140 RTV MIL-A-46146 specifications, Coating is for electronics because it doesn't have acetic acid (which would damage electrical parts and metals). For your gasket sealant. In military electronics it is a mil spec requirement for sealing (among other sealants). We used several types Deoxit for rotary switches, potentiometer's, electrical plugs and sockets. They would clean and protect the above mentioned parts. In another vein of thought, another corrosive breakdown chemical that was heavily relied upon for corroded nuts and bolts on electronic equipment was a brand called Kriol, can you give an explanation of how that works. As a sidelight when we couldn't get frozen corroded parts to release, we had an electrical apparatus in the machine shop called Electric Discharge Machining (EDM) Process that would remove them without damage. One reason I mentioned all of this is, Remember the Navy works in a salt environment year round.
@RichardCasto5 жыл бұрын
I experienced the Acetic acid effect recently by accident. I was resealing an old fish tank and had used razor blades to remove the old silicone seals. I had left a blade in the bottom of the tank when it was resealed using new silicone caulk. It seems that the outgassed Acetic acid vapor is heavier than air and tended to remain in the tank. After curing overnight the previously shiny razor blade was a now very smooth and consistent earthy brown color.
@benc83865 жыл бұрын
That slightly unusual-looking rust from acetic acid looks a bit like the finish you get on "corten" or weathering steel. I wonder if there is a different chemical in there or if the appearance is something to do with the rate at which it forms.
@RichardCasto5 жыл бұрын
@@benc8386 It was a very consistent and attractive finished. I wondered if it might actually be useful in a way such as the rust bluing process used on firearms.
@TestSpaceMonkey5 жыл бұрын
@@RichardCasto I use cleaning vinegar as a rust remover sometimes. As long as you keep it thoroughly submerged and agitate from time to time you get a pleasant dark grey (ferric acetate?) coating and a lot of the rust flakes off. I doubt it is as durable as any proper bluing but it's cheap and good enough for restoration/maintenance on old hard-use carbon steel tools (axes, chisels, etc..).
@pirobot668beta4 жыл бұрын
Firearm 'browning', a predecessor to 'bluing', is based on rusting the metal then boiling it in clean water. Boiling changes the loose powdery red rust into clingy black iron oxide. Scrub off whatever is loose, rust and boil again! You know when you are done when the steel doesn't rust any more! Depending on the steel, the colors you can get are browns, light greens and purples. Rub the steel with tallow or lard, then lightly bake it...like seasoning a frying pan! Old flintlock muskets and the like were protected this way. Hematite with oleum top-coat.
@dalitas5 жыл бұрын
Chloride is also a pitting agent, it binds to the Fe on the surface, in essence removing an Fe-Fe bond and creating an Fe-Cl bond, this reduces the cohesion making it easier for the Fe to leave the surface
@Watchyn_Yarwood5 жыл бұрын
Super interesting, as always! Thanks for sharing!
@jmcasler15125 жыл бұрын
Order of operations: 1) Ben posts a video 2) We hit the thumbs up button 3) We play the video
@ShadowRifft5 жыл бұрын
3 minutes in, already mindblown📖🖊👌
@GarageWoodworks5 жыл бұрын
FYI: To simplify your apparatus at 9:05, insert a rubber septa on your round bottom with your reagents already inside. Fill a balloon with argon and attach it to a plastic syringe with the plunger removed (easier to attach the balloon to the syringe before filling with argon - use Parafilm to seal balloon/syringe). With a needle on the syringe, pierce the rubber septa. To purge with argon from the balloon, use a second syringe to pierce the septa and draw (pull syringe plunger) air/argon from the round bottom a few times. Leave the balloon/syringe/needle in the septa during the reaction. This will maintain a slight positive pressure of argon in the round bottom. This inert reaction setup with a balloon is done routinely in chem labs.
@albertbadal44254 жыл бұрын
Hi dude, I am an engineer working in the production chemical for upstream O&G. You are an extremely talented engineer and while we are striving everyday to come up with much more complicated corrosion inhibitor molecules, I thoroughly enjoyed your approach in synthesizing, applying and testing the concept. I am sending your video as an educational tool to our technical group as just like you said, we sometimes go way deep in the rabbit hole and forget how things are fundamentally sound when you have a fresh perspective. We utilize RCA, RCE and jet impingement tests to determine the efficacy of corrosion inhibitors by using synthetic brine (5% - NaCl) to mimic produced water, 100% CO2 (or 45 psi partial pressures) and sometimes 10-50 ppm of H2S to replicate the worst reservoir conditions. Great work.
@KnowledgePerformance75 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making all of this information free to us! I absolutely love your amazing projects and every upload is incredible. I have learned so much from these videos
@Woloszow5 жыл бұрын
Salt has one more special property. Chloride ions are quite agressive against any passivation layer and are capable of creating small spots with pH much lower than surroundings. Additionally chloride ions may complexe metal ions, hindering build up of tight rust layer, which would slow down the corrosion. Especially it shows its agressiveness against stainless steel (pitting) and aluminium, but also helps with corrosion of plain steel.
@samykamkar5 жыл бұрын
Very cool, and really impressive results!
@Guyflyer125 жыл бұрын
Incredible work. You seem extremely humble, but you are a scientific polymath. So fun to watch
@tom_something5 жыл бұрын
From about 1:05 to 4:21, I think that was all shot in one take. You consistently deliver such clear explanations, without needing a zillion edits. It's really admirable and appreciated. The chemistry nomenclature is interesting too. When you explained the "mercapto" and I thought, "I wonder if that means ethyl mercaptain looks like.... this... yep." Very cool when that happens.
@saml76105 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna try this synthesis on Monday when I get to the lab! Excellent video (it's kind of a given with you), I really appreciate the thought and work you put into this stuff. I'm a farmer, but I've been going back to school for biochemistry recently and you're a big driver in renewing my interest in the sciences. I've been watching your videos for two years and I finally got fed with my limited understanding of some of the topics at hand, so I decided to do something about it. It's incredibly rewarding for me to watch this video today because I finally understand everything you went over, that's huge for me. Thank you for your continued work, I really appreciate what you do and I wanted you to know exactly what kind of life changing impact your videos have had on me. Cheers!
@todayonthebench5 жыл бұрын
"Eventually I found this old patent for a corrosion inhibitor, and it had this interesting line in there that said the reaction product were this dark read viscus liquid, right as this [Deoxit] were sitting on the bench, and I thought, oh, really..." These types of experiences are wonderful, even if they turn out to be partly incorrect in the end. It strives forth creativity and new ideas, not to mention a better understanding of the whole. Also, this is a well made video about rust inhibitors and has enlightened me and hopefully others on the subject. Though, in regards to the sacrificial anode, to my knowledge, it protects the metal of interest by oxidizing itself, meaning that it is the metal giving off the electrons, instead of the base metal. (Though, I might not recall correctly, corrosion isn't my field...)
@NicholasMaietta5 жыл бұрын
I wished science was interesting in school. I'm 38 now and feel I got far more from this episode than any class in school.
@xenonram5 жыл бұрын
You're watching a 23 minute culmination of dozens of hours of work. So if a typical class is 40 hours long (15 weeks, 2x/week of 1.25 hour classes) you'd spend that entire class learning one topic.
@NicholasMaietta5 жыл бұрын
@@xenonram Excellent observation! Thank you for sharing this.
@jasonpatterson80915 жыл бұрын
It's like Nurdrage and Project Farm had a long, drunk night together, and you delivered the baby. Wonderful video.
@JernD5 жыл бұрын
NileOrange/ProjectScience
@Alexander_Sannikov5 жыл бұрын
honestly Applied Science is just in a league above them
@wobblysauce5 жыл бұрын
Now to work out how much you need to make your own supply line... but then you come into scales of volume and history deals.
@contemporiser5 жыл бұрын
project farm? this is an insult
@PuerRidcully5 жыл бұрын
@@contemporiser Freaking elitists.
@ProjectPhysX5 жыл бұрын
That slow motion shot at 10:55 is increadible.
@rustlebruxz00135 жыл бұрын
...and sales of Deoxit suddenly exploded. (I wasn't aware of it but I'll buy a bottle now.) Another good video.
@wingracer16145 жыл бұрын
It's fantastic stuff. Great for cleaning dirty contacts in electrical equipment. Dirty pots and jacks in music instruments/amps/radios/etc.
@onpsxmember5 жыл бұрын
Most people working on guitars are aware of it to protect potentiometers. There are different ones depending where they're used and it's all pretty pricy.
@Fleance_Snowflower4 жыл бұрын
trying to work with my organic chemistry lab was something of a struggle to stay focused... and then there is this that i'm watching in fascination between study sessions... solid material.
@electronicsNmore5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video as always.
@lodevijk5 жыл бұрын
Every single time when you make a video, I think 'aw, another long video, don't wanna spend over 20 minutes' but end up glued to the screen the entire time. This was really fascinating. By the way, I love your pronunciation of iron.
@JimSmith4315 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative and useful video. One aspect of having a lathe and/or milling machine is the tooling necessary to use them. Most of that tooling isn't cheap and will have much bare metal just waiting to be corroded. An application of an oil film is often not desirable, especially for machine tapers which rely on a bare metal to metal contact to perform correctly. To protect those surfaces I use a VCI (vapor-phase corrosion inhibitor) paper wherever possible. Such papers (Armor Wrap 30G for example) work best in a relatively dry and enclosed environment (such as in a closed plastic or metal container). Since I've been using VCI paper (about two years now) I have yet to see any corrosion on protected tooling. Would be interesting to see a scientifically valid test of such papers.
@ElementalMaker5 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely awesome video Ben!
@thomasgibson80255 ай бұрын
Outstanding work. Organic Chem was the greatest coursework from my early college daze. I would love to sit with you and enjoy some beverages and chat. Thanks again for intelligent discourse
@warrentb15 жыл бұрын
If you aren't bored of this subject yet, how about taking a look at Volatile corrosion inhibitors?
@thecarl1685 жыл бұрын
W Bailey there is vapor tarnish prévention product to protect silverware it come as an impregnated paper , you wrap the silverware in this special impregnated paper and it does not tarnish .
@kevinmartin77605 жыл бұрын
@@thecarl168 There is a similar product used to wrap machined steel parts and tools, and I've even seen some plastic storage boxes that claim to inhibit corrosion of the contents. One brand that comes to mind was Zerust (IIRC).
@AnatoFIN5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Martin I sleep in one these. It prevents me from aging :-)
@jauld3605 жыл бұрын
I worked in an engine testing laboratory in the past and the work included assessing the performance of corrosion inhibitors. The performance can be amazing.
@pietrasagh5 жыл бұрын
I’m working at industrial gearboxes manufacturer. We use different form of inhibitor: VCI (v stands for volatile ) It’s added to test run oil and preserve gearbox internals for many months but gearbox have to air tight. If user want to extend corrosion protection they only need to add ca. 1-2 l per m^3 and close gearbox air tight again . Corrosion protection agent evaporate and cover all metal surfaces. For other components we use VCI foil for packaging. If you like more details google “Flender + operation manual 7300”
@dizzolve5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Where else will you find a machinist's vise sitting on a bench next to test tubes and electronics
@Steve_Just_Steve5 жыл бұрын
at AvEs
@Steve_Just_Steve5 жыл бұрын
and ElementalMaker
@Steve_Just_Steve5 жыл бұрын
and Cody's Lab
@insightfool5 жыл бұрын
So many wonderful cogent chemical explainations! Thank you!
@FredMiller5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for sharing ALL you HARD work. I absolutely love your work. Fred Ontario, NY
@MrRaab-hu9rs3 жыл бұрын
Harmlessly replying...so I can find this video again in my KZbin history. Have a like!
@danelwazana38095 жыл бұрын
The best youtube channel in the world. By far
@laurencebrown17815 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think Castrol's claim "Clinging molecules protect from the start" is about minimising engine wear at start-up (before the lubrication system has a chance to pump oil around the engine) rather than anything to do with corrosion.
@nickmcintosh92 жыл бұрын
Always love hearing about how you trouble shoot your method and apparatus.
@justDIY5 жыл бұрын
Very neat. I love Deoxit for electrical and electronic cleaning and protection. Nice to learn about how it works, and how effective it is.
@charleshines61555 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few KZbin vids on it and this stuff apparently works miracles. I might try it some day. There is a Deoxit product for gold plated connectors too. That would be useful in a computer or anything similar. What I notice in the KZbin videos is that they don't seem to let the stuff dry. I would let it dry and maybe even help it dry with a fan before powering on the device that was cleaned with it. That would just minimize the chance of a short that could cause permanent damage.
@aSinisterKiid5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant discovery by accident with the Acetic acid off-gassing. I must admit, I often look at some of the most amazing stories in history regarding brilliant discoveries, and they often involve details like that where something happened by accident but gave you a result you couldn't possibly thought of doing on purpose. There is truly something special about scrapping things together and working with what you have.
@connecticutaggie5 жыл бұрын
Very cool analysis and explanation! I would love to hear more regarding chemicals that stop rust that has already formed (like naval jelly) - how they work and how that affects the choice of which one to use.
@pierpaolopravatto13355 жыл бұрын
In order to reduce the smell during the reaction you can try to use a bleach solution to scrub thiols instead of plain water. Thank you for the video!
@shyleshsrinivasan50925 жыл бұрын
Very cool and comprehensive demonstrations ! All these videos must be part of our academic curriculum !
@GodlikeIridium2 жыл бұрын
Those fogging saltfoggers are fogging amazing!
@trentspencer81895 жыл бұрын
Great timing! I've been reading about just this subject lately.
@Hunterr85 жыл бұрын
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@vincentbarkley91215 жыл бұрын
Yet another killer video. Excellent. Thank you.
@larrybud2 жыл бұрын
This channel is amazing. Your presentation is top notch.
@DrewLSsix4 жыл бұрын
Here in the midwest some of the best older cars to own and work on are the ones that had significant oil leaks for most of their lives. Between preserving sheetmetal and keeping fasteners from reducing to something that looks like a mars rock dealing with a bit of sludge in a small price.
@deepforrestalchemy91895 жыл бұрын
Ben you’ve done it again - nerd candy - I am a chemist and could not have explained it better - nicely designed - pungent side reaction products are common - Look after yourself - if you’re going to do chemistry I do recommend you design and build a fume hood. I’d be interested in the innovations you would bring to such a lab standard.
@alexradtke17965 жыл бұрын
If you are working with sulfur compounds, it can be worthwhile to use bleach to deodorize things. In your reaction set up, a bleach bubbler might help keep things from stinking up the place.
@YodaWhat5 жыл бұрын
That would be _after_ the water bubbler, right? You would not want bleach vapors to back-flow into the test chamber.
@sqeeye31025 жыл бұрын
It seems like the scotch brite treatment you gave to the steel shim stock at 19:15 would also dramatically increase the surface area as well as removing any rust preventative. My hypothesis on the improvement of your results there, anyway. Thanks for the interesting video and I hope to see more on the subject.
@Epicmylikes5 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel via your Tennis ball video. Everything you make is fantastic, subscribed.
@gregsz1ful5 жыл бұрын
There have been for ages, inhibitors that evaporate onto stuff, including packaged military silver switches. A piece of paper wrapped around piece to protect. The paper looking sheet has one side labled to face toward part being protected. Other vapor products , emitting pads to be placed within sensitive euipment. Another electronic spray by Bullfrog said to emit protecting vapors.
@browpetj2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Great vid. Formulating corrosion inhibitors from intermediates is very interesting indeed. Some cool testing like LPR and potentiostatic stuff as well as just freeze thaw and solubility testing. LPR, you can see the instantaneous corrosion rate and graph it over time. Once you add the inhibitor You can see the rate plummet in real time. A number of products can be superimposed on the same graph. Some formulations will not adsorb very fast but form a more stable film once established for example. The graphs illustrate minute differences very well indeed. Like the way you increased the severity of the test until all specimens had some corrosion. Good way of benchmarking. The products we used to make were predominantly for internal protection of oil shipping lines and vessels. Sometimes you'll find that you don't need too much dispersant to dissolve actives if you use a mutual solvent in your carrier. An alcohol or something. These mutual solvents can solubilise the actives well. Allowing them to remain in solution without agitation. The active compounds are typically part oil and part water soluble as depicted in this vid. So something that will dissolve both lil and water is good. It's a pain in industry though becasue of the flashpoint. Adding alcohols (especially the lighter ones) can increase the flashpoint above specification thresholds sometimes. You have a batch treatment simulation here, worst case for engine oil which is a nice severe test. Even lower concentrations work (2-5ppm sometimes or 0.0001-0.0005%) if your corrosive liquid is dosed with the inhibitor. In the industry this is called continuous treatment if anyone is interested in terminology. These actives constantly adsorb and desporb to and from the surface in a pseudo-stoichometric fashion. Having residual chemistry in the corrosive liquid ensures that desorption is approximately balanced with adsorbtion and the film integrity (mainly coverage and thickness) is maintained.
@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube5 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I've ever seen for sacrificial anodes, and it only took a couple minutes of setup. Boats make sense to me now!
@Nill7575 жыл бұрын
Splendid work.
@hgbugalou5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, you have explained this so clearly and I have learned so many of the processes I thought involved with rust and corrosion are wrong. Thank you.
@devdhamija75855 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thank you for contributing such wonderful art to society.
@johnlynch21005 жыл бұрын
Are you aware of a product called Ospho? Basically, it’s phosphoric acid and detergent. My friend uses it to stop rust on his steel boat. It’s very effective, works by converting iron oxide to iron phosphate. Iron oxide crystals look like daggers, and even if you sand them off, the remaining bits will continue to corrode into the steel. The conversion to iron phosphate stops that process. We used it on steel way covers in my CNC mill, and they haven’t re-rusted in 10 years.
@salvatoreshiggerino68104 жыл бұрын
14:51 is it possible that the samples being electrically connected to each other would interfere with the experiment? Coud the worse-protected samples act as a sacrificial anode for the better-protected ones, biasing the experiment in favour of the better protected ones?
@ilyadorokhov78275 жыл бұрын
The difference in the rust colour is due to different forms of hydrated iron oxides. The general rule of thumb is the less water - the darker the colour is. Also when you scratched the bare metal it increased the surface area, making corrosion faster, I hope you accounted for that.
@googleenshitified5 жыл бұрын
The Chlorid Ions eat away the passive layer on your average corrosion resistant steel (AISI 304). Instead of water moving the Ions, molten NaCl seems to work fine too. Great video!
@emilmckellar49322 жыл бұрын
in South Africa there is a product Deoxidine, Phosphoric acid heavy so it desolves the Iron oxides, and it forms a white barrier against rust. My dad would buy metal stock, round bar, square tube and more once or twice a year and everyone can use it. Only we had to paint it Dioxidine befor storage. BTW I was 7-10 and I was allowed to use the welde oxy set and heavy equipment. Was a great time
@bostedtap83995 жыл бұрын
Excellent, very informative and highly detailed quantitative experiments. Corrosion is a multi billion monetary problem. Thank you for sharing and best regards from the UK.
@inventorofmachines5 жыл бұрын
you know, I end up learning a *lot* more than then title promises, which is awesome.
@Qn0Bi65 жыл бұрын
Nice video, liked it a lot. I just recently did a few corrosion experiments with iron nails. Where I treated them different. One wrapped with zink wire, one wrapped in copper wire, one bare and the last one smeared with grease. Added them in testtubes with salt water. After that they each received a 2mL shot of 10% H2O2. You can recognize the differences immediately. The copper one rust like crazy. The untreated one rusts, but less intense. The zink and the greased nail don't show any signs of corrosion at all. Greets from Germany, ceep up the great work!
@harliethomas13782 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.... Afterwards he notices all the equipment elsewhere in the lab/shop has a fine coating off rust.... Thus ensues his next research project into how browning and blueing of steel and iron helps to protect them by first establishing a thin layer of rust on the metal then treating said metal by carding, boiling, converting the oxide etc etc etc. No wait that is what happened in mine after researching iron oxide removal with acidic solutions, some of which contained muriatic (ie hydrochloric) acid which is a gas that will emanate from such liquid and form a wonderfully fine miscible mixture with the air and go do it's much more preferred job of making iron oxide everywhere versus removing it. Lmao what an interesting and educational week it was worth the addition of ventilation, airflow and fume hood studies ensuring.
@davidewing90885 жыл бұрын
your description of the molecule is fantastic, thank you.
@stamasd85005 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of points from a chemist's perspective: 1. There may still be unreacted oleic acid in the final product. A comparison should be made of the crude product vs. one that has been purified of unreacted feedstock and side products. 2. Some of the oleic acid may have polymerized (it does that even in absence of air especially at high temperatures) and may be what the gunk at the bottom is. The gunk is what tells me that you have an impure product. Also the side thiol groups may be active in conferring the corrosion inhibitor properties; if the are both blocked, the activity may go down. It may be interesting to compare a mono-substituted product with the di-substituted one.
@tiger125065 жыл бұрын
Oh, ok. I always thought Deoxit was snake oil in a can with a cult. You've convinced me to give it a fair shake. As always, you are what every scientist should strive to be. Consistent, thorough, informative...
@wingracer16145 жыл бұрын
Definitely not snake oil. A bit pricey for what it is perhaps but it does work.
@DC_DC_DC_DC5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for steadily offsetting Terrabytes of uploaded junk made by and for idiots. Know and be aware that you are part of a very small and select group of people making social media actually worthwhile, and even moreso; entertaining, educative and inspiring. Don't you ever worry about being too elaborative, boring or geeky, you rock at this.
@theonehavingthekey59665 жыл бұрын
Great illustration. 👍💯✌
@s9josh7785 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Brilliant.
@stephenborst35355 жыл бұрын
Deoxit gold impressed me
@jackflash63775 жыл бұрын
I've been using Deoxit for many years. Magic stuff.
@Kai-ml2iu5 жыл бұрын
You gotta be crazy! First, you tell us that this corrosion inhibitor is a well-kept secret for most manufacturers, but then you make a video about how to make one that works even better! :D
@TheDuckofDoom.5 жыл бұрын
Intermittent salt spray is even more aggressive: spray a few minutes, dry for a while. Alternating temperature can speed it as well, cold water having more dissolved O2 followed by heat during the drying cycle for the reaction.
@rodryk56055 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add some input. The reason bare metal wasn't corroding as fast, was probably because it had a smooth oxide layer protecting the metal. Once you scuff that up, you remove the oxide layer, pit the metal surface and increase surface area. Most solvents would have removed any protective coating that might have been on the metal.
@ChrisB2575 жыл бұрын
You are a talented guy Ben - thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@aga58975 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Love it how you explain the Science. So refreshing that you're not just talking about what you did and how your patreons are great, unlike some other channels .
@tfsupp5 жыл бұрын
The black deposits on the humidity test is a good indicator that you also may have bacterial corrosion as well ,if you get sufficient you can smell it when scratched, some times this is more prevalent in soft scab corrosion. The humidity allows the bacteria to form in the soft iron oxide by not having any salt or heavy metals present and the bacteria is not washed off by excessive water movement. Of course bacterial corrosion can form in moving water but often occurs under the initial corrosion layer. This is often very preventive in chiller or condenser water boxes & can be devastating to the tube plates if it forms in-between the copper tubes and the metal plate. the corrosion inhibitor (chemical or barrier types) can not get into the corrosion due to the slight reduction pressure of water flow and the closeness of the dissimilar metals. The bacteria then forms under the scab and becomes very very aggressive and creates tunnel corrosion beside the tubes that's almost impossible to stop. Very Very expensive. This is also the major cause of fuel tank corrosion as the bacterial corrosion is accelerated by the water fuel interface layer that gets heavily engulfed in bacteria, that is why a biocide treatment should be used in long storage tanks and some times in the oil sumps of standby electrical generators & fire pump diesel engines. (can also occur in trucks & cars if not serviced regularly, not run often or only doing short trips. This causes the humidity to be condensed in the sump bottom) Running the engine oil temp to above 60C for a while kills the bacteria off. If not addressed the bacteria then starts eating the substrate layers of the porous bearings and end of engine. Sorry if this old marine engineer rambled on a bit but is my thing. I do enjoy your u tube presentations keep them going. PM me if any one wants more info.
@movax20h5 жыл бұрын
The precission scale you own is really nice. I would recommend putting it further away from the place you are doing reactions, mixing and apply heat. You could damage the scale. In most labs, so precise scales are in a separate temperature controlled room, with low risk of contamination or even dust accumulation.
@drewlatta19795 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’d like to point out that iron (Fe) will corrode in water without oxygen present. The electrochemical potential of Fe is less than that of water, and thus Fe will reduce water to hydrogen gas (H2) over all water pH values. The reaction of Fe with water is much faster in acid, but still occurs at neutral pH. The rusts that form under anoxic conditions and neutral or greater pH are “white rust (Fe(OH)2)”, “green rusts”, and magnetite (Fe3O4).
@obduliocerceno49845 жыл бұрын
Excellent teaching skills... Appreciated the good work and reasearch done... Thank you very much 👍
@samthenerf3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the eventual look into DeOxit.
@chemistchemist2285 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! So perfect! Even in university chem course this is not explained! I love this channel!!! The best one ever seen!!! Good Job!!!
@Jandejongjong5 жыл бұрын
You got Ya self a New fan!!! Love your full info Quick to explain method!
@mf1ve5 жыл бұрын
It's like you were born to do this, sir. Thank you for another enjoyable video!
@ecrusch5 жыл бұрын
I know this sounds crazy, but I found your explanation of the different glassware and their uses pretty interesting. Your videos are always fascinating. Thank you very much. Eric
@WXUZT5 жыл бұрын
Taken a lot of effort for the wonderful video.
@AeroFrics5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the quality and effort you always put into your videos. Thank you so much for sharing that with us!
@FLYGTRVIC5 жыл бұрын
Awesome work, found it very interesting. Thanks
@nicktohzyu5 жыл бұрын
thank you! i've been wondering about this for years but could never find much through light googling
@double0prime5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a similar episode on the anti corrosion paste that prevents dissimilar metals from redoxing. The green past inside the purple wire nuts that allow you to splice copper wires with aluminum wires in older construction.
@markkelly92255 жыл бұрын
The patent you reference is United States Patent 3884822, issued May 20, 1975, Inventor, GEMMILL JR ROBERT M, assigned to Mobil Oil Corporation.