Drill through anything (conductive) with Electrical Discharge Machining

[@TrasteIAm]

Ben's wife: "Honey why is the sauce pan leaking?" There is now a tiny hole in every conductive thing in Ben's home.

[@palebluedot7435]

Why is the dog leaking ?

[@odw32]

Yeah every time I see his desk full of samples I imagine he goes around town covering all the street signs with electroluminescent paint, screen printing graffiti onto sidewalks, bending everyone's garden fences using ammonia.

[@Bubbibjoern]

You made my day Björn.

[@theharbingerofconflation]

​@@odw32 They call it Weirdville, Ohio. The villagers are weary of old mad Ben and his sciency tricks.

[@iwtommo]

@@odw32 And cutting anything he chooses clean in half with a 'very sciencey looking pressure washer'

[@theCodyReeder]

Now that is cool.

[@danyk7879]

Cody'sLab i am ready for ur new content

[@1320crusier]

...youre pretty much everywhere on YT that has something neat..

[@baxedm9806]

Hi Cody, if you are interested in an Arc generator, I have a good deal for you. See my contact details on my website baxedm.com

[@Molb0rg]

@@baxedm9806 man is there any chance for it to be cheaper than 3k? maybe some reduced in capabilities thing, or whatever ...

[@theCodyReeder]

Dany K KZbin has demonetized my latest video because I use the words “ball” and “shoot”. I’m pissed off about it and am trying to contact an actual person to fix before I publish.

[@wessmall7957]

Suddenly everything in his shop has dozens of tiny holes

[@Daa253]

???

[@Daa253]

How?

[@zh9664]

@@Daa253 do you... know what a joke is?

[@zh9664]

@@Daa253 how could you not get it? did you comment this before watching the video?

[@Daa253]

@@zh9664 I watched lol

[@AllanDee]

"Honey, where's my large mixing pot?" "You mean the large colander?" "No, I mean my big mixing bowl from the KitchenAid mixer" "Yes. You mean... the colander."

[@PropGuru702]

Seriously most underrated comment of all time 🤣🤣 I just rapidly evacuated my beverage through several facial orifices.. thanks for that lol

[@jamesschultz30]

🤣🤣🤣

[@FFLFFS]

@@PropGuru702 Lol👍

[@lysakivskyioleksii2146]

no need to worry, but in case, i hide my mixing bowl

[@jooky87]

This is what happened to the surface of planets

[@smartereveryday]

Drilling through a lathe cutter is impressive. I've never thought about EDM for drilling. This is genius.

[@jordanlapointe8207]

Hey Dustin!

[@dimi575]

EDM is used to drill the cooling channels in turbine blades and vanes used in jet engines.

[@josephlewinski2384]

Been doing this since 1981, not exactly a new technology. However, having it affordable for a home DIY'er or hobbyist IS exciting. I do mainly wire EDM.

[@irondiver292]

Jordan Lapointe *Destin

[@cjkturtle9762]

SmarterEveryDay Dustin I found a video a little while ago that introduced me to EDM drilling. Try searching on KZbin for “Drilling through pencil lead”. That’s where I became fascinated :).

[@Thepiecat]

>It'll be too conductive >water your plants with it It's got what plants crave. (Electrolytes)

[@k_froggy]

oh god i love that reference

[@turk639]

Plants love heavy metal

[@Barskor1]

Mostly iron copper and zinc the nano particulates are what make the water more conductive not salts.

[@turk639]

@@Barskor1 salts can definetly make water conductive, just adding a bit of tabel salt to water does make it conduct electricity quite well.

[@Barskor1]

@@turk639 Yes but that is not what is happening here he used distilled water that over time gained higher conductivity by drilling.

[@matthiaswandel]

Makes me want one so I can drill random holes through random hard metal objects, just because I can!

[@kevlareditor7532]

Matthias Wandel stay away from the wife’s pots and pans

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

All the bad ass dudes got this vid rec. Dude, your vids are great. This vid is awesome too.

[@hollowhills2973]

I cant even imagine what uses youd come up with for this thing lol

[@palewriter1856]

Tell the truth, Matthias - you're in a mad scramble to build this in WOOD, huh? AvE, OTOH, is just waiting to tear this bad boy apart!

[@Makyrie]

Go For It!!! Whatever Drills your hole!!! Right?

[@coastmansscenicproducts4591]

Not only is this impressive machining, he provides an articulate and thorough explanation of how it's accomplished. Accolades!

[@Braeden123698745]

Me: "Huh I wonder how (any advanced topic here) works?" Applied Science: "Here I've made this cutting edge technology in my garage, and made an great video about it."

[@noahchristensen7342]

Cutting edge. Ha... Ha... Ha...

[@Ariccio123]

Honestly, I'd love to get to know this guy, buy him a few drinks, hang out with him. If nothing else, I'm sure some of his smarts would transfer by osmosis to me!

[@chebhou]

@@Ariccio123 I second that

[@vidznstuff1]

"Cutting edge" being 250 years old....ok.

[@JoshStLouis314]

@@vidznstuff1 Arc gouging technically may qualify as EDM, but I dare you to try making a 0.6mm hole with your welder.

[@ThisOldTony]

when I was younger my kid used to tell me stories of homemade EDM machines that I always dismissed as urban legend. I've seen that baxedm stuff around, great to see it implemented. Looking forward to seeing your wire feeder / tensioner. I talk alot when I'm excited; moral of the story: Amazing work!!

[@channel11121]

Do you mean your dad/friend/etc rather than `kid'?

[@TheBodgybrothers]

@@channel11121 /r/whoosh

[@vrsecky100]

i'm pretty sure you're ordering parts right now Tony. Can't wait to see your version :-)

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

Dude, your vids rock, and this vid is freakin' sweet too!

[@baxedm9806]

Here's an example of how a DIY wire feeder and tensioner for Wire-EDM could look like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6SWfJuKbNdjZ8k

[@jamesdavis2027]

Of course ben makes his own EDM machine! I expect a fully functional fusion reactor by the end of the week. Edit: just wanted to plug this excellent Japanese tv show called supreme skills which is sort of a game show for Japanese scientists and manufacturing specialists. Heres an episode where they use a manual lathe and EDM drilling to drill through a pencil lead: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnTXiIOYiamVq7s Maybe you should give that a shot!

[@theCodyReeder]

not if he doesn't want a run in with the law.

[@nomadben]

@@theCodyReeder No surprise to see you here Cody. Ben does some amazing work.

[@skylerlehmkuhl135]

I half expect he's already got a fusor sitting around somewhere.

[@AppliedScience]

@@theCodyReeder There's a reason that I have not done an X-ray video in a long time :)

[@SlamminGraham]

@@theCodyReeder They seemed to leave this guy alone just fine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWbCiKmjhs6ksJI

[@mrrooter601]

18:20 this is some weird sounding EDM, i guess you can call anything music nowadays

[@imtrash1228]

AhAhAhHaHa

[@gblargg]

It's EDM for dogs (30kHz).

[@iangraham5320]

EDM puts holes in your brain in a similar way.

[@madaxe79]

Sounds better than EDM to my ears

[@alphavenus5076]

@@iangraham5320 i think you had those to start with.

[@needleonthevinyl]

I think hobbyist level EDM is going to make a large impact in the small/precision capabilities of the home shop

[@prjndigo]

If you add in linear and oscillatory/elliptic processes you can end up manufacturing a LOT of nearly impossible to find parts.

[@SuperAWaC]

still a long way to go to get precision out of it

[@gregfeneis609]

It's more likely going to make lots of tiny little impacts of minimal force in the small/precision capabilities of the home shop

[@fourtwo7612]

Seth Baker have you seen how much Bens setup costs? The baxedm psu is 2700 Eur alone! I dread to think what the total cost is - well out of reach of the average home shop

[@littlestworkshop]

@@fourtwo7612 However it need not cost this much it is the current market that allows that pricing.

[@Dex99SS]

"In fact I have been able to drill through / ruin, every single conductive thing in the shop" lol ....

[@ESEsnipes]

forgot to check if his camera

[@Nighthawkinlight]

I remember you mentioning this process on one of my videos a couple years ago and I had since forgotten about it. This is crazy cool. I was just about to ask about how you even begin to figure out your feed rate when you mentioned the software does that for you. I really need to stop leaving comments before I finish videos. Looking forward to seeing how the wire EDM works in the X Y axis. Thanks for the great video as always!

[@Kumquat_Lord]

The craziest part about wire EDM is that the top and bottom guides can move independently which means you can cut some crazy shapes with odd tapers. Even a shape with a square on one end and a circle on the other, with one singular cut

[@petemoore5104]

A lot of years ago, I used one of these machines to remove broken drills, taps and hardened steel pegs from materials. It was extremely good at doing this and due to costing, worked out cheaper than re-machining the whole part again - mainly because I worked cheap. For fun, I used to make strings of ball bearings, similar to pearls, from worn out bearings.

[@g60force]

lol I read the last line wrong and was like... a ball-bearing thong doesn't sound comfortable XD

[@petemoore5104]

@@g60force Hmm, never thought about that but am thinking that a few odd nuts might make for interesting thing, for the very brave....

[@esra_erimez]

I wonder what This Old Tony is thinking right now.

[@shadowfirekarp]

Dad jokes. Definitely dad jokes.

[@saml7610]

I hope he's thinking about building a home brew wire EDM machine.

[@RexusKing]

@@saml7610 How to break a tap part2A: Tap extraction with EDM?! How to break a tap part2B: EDM build part 1

[@mauriziofigini]

must be biting his nails, climb cut.

[@anubisvex3309]

I love im in this circle of youtube

[@reddcube]

CNC milling for hobbyist ✅ Resin 3D printers for hobbyist ✅ Laser Cutter for hobbyist ✅ EDM for hobbyist 🤯

[@0lone0wolf0]

Not to mention the electron microscope that video got me amazed for couple of months

[@professoreggplant9985]

Just think if there was as much interest in hobbyist biology we'd have a home remedy for cancer by now.

[@rfldss89]

@@professoreggplant9985 that would be gardening, homebrewing, etc.

[@mystamo]

TSK TSK... Forget about the Pressure Washer Water Cutter?

[@trhacje_m2187]

We are living in amazing times, but still can't wait for the fusion reactor for hobbyist so I could run all those amazing machines cheaper :D

[@michaelseery5588]

Another fantastic video. I think it would be fun to drill across the diameter of a quarter.

[@nomadben]

I'd love to see that.

[@godofplumbing]

That would be awesome.

[@walterkersting1362]

Party down, dude...

[@tonythomas951]

That would be cool

[@MrMitchB]

dammit Michael you beat me to it, although, I was thinking a nickle. Any coin would be awesome.

[@123philimo]

"half a thou of an inch" me: *screaming in metric*

[@GroBestGardens]

"Half a thou of an inch" is quite understandable by anyone in mechanical engineering or anyone with a machining background. It is simply 1/2 of 1/1000 of an inch >>> or 0.0005". Then .0005 inch x (25.4 mm/inch) = 0.0127 mm. ...... Ed

[@GroBestGardens]

Also common for engineering and machining is "mils" where "1/1000th of an inch" is also called "1 mil". So "1/2 mil" also is equal to .0005".

[@wessmall7957]

laughs in American

[@gdjpodo3370]

imperial system is primitive

[@wessmall7957]

@@gdjpodo3370 Are you a scientist?

[@jimbaritone6429]

When I was in Grade 8, a buddy and I built an EDM drill starting from an article that had been in Popular Mechanics. I got a section of a many-splined transmission shaft to use as a "tool" from a shop that fixed Kenworth oilfield trucks. That was pretty hard, high-grade steel, and it was able to drill a close-fitting hole through a piece of 1-1/2" mild steel or aluminum plate. The plate being drilled was submerged in Kerosene in a clear Pyrex dish, so that the arc discharge was actually covered by the liquid. Raising/lowering the head for the cutting tool was a vertical slide made of maple, both the track and the movable head that ran in it. The maple slider holding the "tool" was raised and lowered by fly line running through a multi-line block & tackle made with Meccano pulleys. We got a very slow-turning gear motor out of a junked Timex watch display, which very slowly un-reeled the line, lowering the cutting tool. The speed for lowering the cutting head was one of the hardest things to get right. The winding motor wasn't variable speed or reversible - a hand crank raised the cutting head. We cobbled up a circulating pump using an automotive-type mechanical fuel pump with the actuating lever arm moved by a maple cam on a bolt chucked in a 1/4" electric drill. We put a diode in one leg of the power wires to slow the drill down. We made a tapered glass tubing nozzle for the hose where it "squirted" at the workpiece. That flushed the cuttings away from the tool pretty well, although not as nicely as if we'd had a tool head with a hollow center to pump the Kerosene through. The cuttings built up quite quickly, and we discovered that things didn't work so well if the liquid was full of metal cuttings. The solution for that problem was to drain the kerosene full of cuttings into a reservoir. Some settled out, and the pump output ran through a Diesel engine fuel filter. Our high voltage supply was 120 VAC going through a voltage doubler or tripler power supply, using some big capacitors, some big incandescent light bulbs for current limiting, and some high-rating diodes we obtained by writing to a solid-state component manufacturer. They sent us a box with 2 or 3 sets as well as some heat sink material free of charge, which was good of them. All this back in 1969 - 50 years ago - hard to believe. Later I became an electrical engineer, and belatedly learned just how dangerous this setup had been. But, ignorance is bliss, and we never had any shocks, big arcs, fires or major problems or failures, and it actually did cut really complex shaped holes through thick steel and aluminum. A buddy and I built this contraption and won 2nd prize at a regional science fair. We attended a really small school, with teachers who really didn't understand (fortunately) what we were doing very well. We figured we'd done OK, since about 80% of the parts were junk/scrap, begged, or donated, and the only "guidebook" we had was a Popular Mechanics article. We bought the big capacitors from a motor & genset rewinding shop that worked on oilfield equipment. They got interested in what we were doing, and donated the mechanical fuel pump, a bunch of hoses, and a diesel engine filter housing and filters along with the fittings to connect it all up. They thought using an electric drill to drive the pump showed "ingenuity." We were pretty lucky to have people help us out with things like that, and the high voltage diodes. It's sure a long, long way from where EDM technology is today. I went to an industrial trade show once, where some EDM equipment was being demo'd, and told one of the sales reps about the Grade 8 science fair project. He had a good laugh, and told me we'd been complete idiots. Which wasn't really fair - we built it with almost no adult help, solved all the problems, and made a working machine that actually drilled a 1"-1-1/4" splined hole through thick steel plate. We nicknamed the beast the "Spitzensparken" for obvious reasons. My friend's dad was a ham radio operator, so he knew something about high voltage wiring and insulation. We were pretty lucky in some respects. How many school science teachers today would let a couple of 13 year-olds build a project like this in the school lab?. We had parents who kept an eye on things but trusted us enough to be careful when fooling around with what was a pretty crude rig.

[@mikemills69]

Agreed, thumbs up for volume.

[@stevesloan6775]

Man that’s totally awesome! I love that you got your inspiration from “Popular Mechanics”..... The internet’s of yesteryear!!!🤓😂😂😂 EDM would possibly be a cool way to fix a probe too a meteor. Drill and then weld. I’m wondering if you could torque steer the drill filament....🤓🤜🏼🤛🏼🤓🇦🇺

[@3melendr]

@Jim Baritone, what a story of genius at such a young age! You knew your calling. Typical of people who become engineers. I assume you are now retired and like me keep up with the journals and science news. Life is good! I knew my calling early in life (7th grade) and took a basic electronics course. I had no father to encourage me and help me make my dreams come true. The Armed Forces Schools gave me more training and I was able to secure employment at the White Sands Missile Range as an ET and later on an Engineer Assistant. I took college courses as necessary after returning from Vietnam to stay proficient and competitive. You did well Jim as a young dreamer and became one of the most coveted of career professionals in the world. Best of wishes!

[@BushCampingTools]

Very cool and you sound about my age. Did similar crazy stuff from those mags all in the "lab" in my parents garage, they we always afraid I'd set fire to the garage and subsequently burn the house down LOL. I ended up going the scientist route but the thing I liked about what you said was about your science teachers. We had cool science teachers that were always "blowing thing up" and doing crazy experiments, I'd be a liar if I denied that they didn't have an influence on my later formal education.

[@ultimaetsolder]

Thanks for the essay.

[@Ev3rM0r3]

Don't even know what I'd use it for but I want to build one.

[@richmac918]

Ev3rMOr3 - more impressive is EDM wire cutting. You can do amazing things with it, cut some very complex shapes. I'd love to have one but I can't imagine this thing being cheap, even if I built it myself

[@Ev3rM0r3]

@@richmac918 yeah I watched the guy with the edm machine that acts like a bandsaw. Cut was near perfect precision.

[@ronnetgrazer362]

How about drilling .3mm holes through an aluminum front panel in any symbol configuration, so that you hardly see the holes until you shine an LED through them? Bonus points for voronoi stippling patterns, or a nice phylotaxis spiral for some subtle speaker holes. You can make them practically invisible to the naked eye with an ion beam but I'm guessing that's a little more involved.

[@donpollard9460]

Same here!

[@irgendwieanders1]

the way is the destination :D

[@legendarysideburns2213]

I choose to believe that it’s Electronic Dance Music machining.

[@crimsonhalo13]

... straight into the brain.

[@derkeksinator17]

You could modulate the power supply to create music... So while stupid and unnecessary EDM machining should be possible

[@randominternetguy2960]

Choose to believe it's edm Choose life...

[@spartandrew8672]

I agree with this statement

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

Same here.

[@mrwongus]

My brain just melted. What a great introduction to EDM, was very informational, thank you!

[@Aklemvaeo]

All of these metal object appear to have been pierced by dry spaghetti.

[@manudehanoi]

5:30 - "I couldnt believe it, It was cheaper than the raw materials from Mc Master by a lot" - I can

[@post-leftluddite]

Yeah, McMasterCarr is very expensive, even for small consumables like abrasives

[@340havoc]

Yup. But if you need something, odds are they have it.

[@venusreena2532]

We just bought metal from McMastuz..Not cheap

[@nickrichie517]

i just got fep film through mcmaster for my resin printer was about half the precut stuff even after shipping. so ymmv.

[@samykamkar]

Yo dawg, I heard you don't like EMI, so we put some ferrite around your ferrite

[@Barskor1]

No love without the glove.

[@jeremyronson9140]

Samy Kamkar - and some flatscreens on your mud flaps! Hahaha, Pimp My Ride.

[@Sharpless2]

the Meme is very strong with this one lmao.

[@burnerjack01]

Wife thinks to herself, "This is SO weird! That's the 3rd pan in a week that's sprung a leak!"

[@JediNg135]

Anything is conductive with enough voltage ;D

[@theshuman100]

Voltage is just a measure of how hard you yeet electrons

[@vooveks]

@no privacy Yeah, 'yeet', as in 'wow, he really yeeted the bejesus out of those electrons'.

[@hjdorn]

@@user-jp1qt8ut3s "explosive brute force" EBF drilling? I like it.

[@JediNg135]

@@user-jp1qt8ut3s I know. I'm just being silly man :)

[@JoshStLouis314]

@Reno Simpson At that point it's just arc gouging again with copper plated graphite electrodes. I think AvE did a vidjeo about that a while ago with the stick welder instead of baterías.

[@SuperAWaC]

AvE is gonna be jealous when he sees this

[@btraker]

This definitely chooches!

[@allesklarklaus147]

Is his edm machine even close to working?

[@mduckernz]

@@btraker Thar pixies be angry and fierce!

[@JustinAlexanderBell]

@@allesklarklaus147 He promised it to Patreons like 4 years ago or something, still nothing afaik.

[@Dark6star]

@@JustinAlexanderBell oof

[@chrish267]

I bet he's the kind of guy that never loses a chuck key.

[@bluefalconssuck5881]

If that's a requirement... I'm out. I own dozens, if not hundreds, and on a good day I can find about 7... give or take a few.

[@Unmannedair]

who uses Chuck keys? i just use a vice grip.

[@godofplumbing]

@@Unmannedair haha, good I'm not the only one.

[@johnpossum556]

ha! I wired one key to my dp and have another on a 6" piece of 1/2 inch galvanized pipe as an extension. Works great for getting the chuck real tight.

[@godofplumbing]

@@johnpossum556 good idea, but I probably still lose it. Haha.

[@pepper669]

I once had a conversation with an engineer - he talked about a project he was working on. It was about EDM machining; they used a wire about the thickness of a human hair. It was so precise that when you put two freshly separated pieces of metal back together and left them for a while, they'd fuse back into one piece. Since EDM is pretty slow, they'd devised a system which was able to re-inject a new piece of wire using a jet of water should the old one have broken when running unsupervised during the night or over a weekend. Fascinating stuff!

[@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf]

@@RareCondition Yes, he did.

[@Globaltechhelp]

Have you tried drilling into conductive glass? e.g TEC7, TEC15 or something simular?

[@BillAnt]

A high pressure water jet does a comparable job with a lot less hassle, preparation, and constant worrying about arcing. imho

[@Globaltechhelp]

Bill A , well there are other issues with water cutting, even if it is a quite well known way.

[@Globaltechhelp]

Dr. M. H. If you have a sensitive surface high pressure water will have an impact of the suroundin area, at least thats my experiance..

[@Temptedization]

@@Globaltechhelp .....Yeah if you use water to drill through a plate glass mirror, and it breaks, you'll have 7 years bad luck.....LOL

[@Globaltechhelp]

Joeinslw no not glass, only mirrows...

[@nerdanderthalidontlikegoog7194]

I EDMed a 1/2" wrench once while replacing batteries in a room sized UPS. A few hundred amps is all you need.

[@satibel]

I know someone who welded a wrench using the same technique. Thinking about it, you could make a pretty easy high current welder/arc furnace using a few truck batteries.

[@solarfluxman8810]

My co-worker EDM-d about an inch off the end of her torque wrench, when tightening the bolts on bus-bars for a submarine battery. I believe it's ok to say this, because I found the specs on the internet: I'm talking about a 260 volt battery with a capacity of more than 10,000 amp-hours for each 2 volt cell. Each cell weighs 2,100 pounds. The total of 128 cells has stored energy of 2,600 kWh, and weighs more than 130 tons.

[@jameswyatt1304]

Everyone off the buss! It's pretty amazing what you can weld or vaporize with battery stacks. Used to be -48V for phone plants was The King here, but a lot of datacenter UPS battery plants can do it now.

[@justus1995]

i EDMed a new profile on my calipers with a 28v aircraft battery, you won't believe how efficient and fast that technique is

[@ParkerAnderson1]

Out in the field, some people stick weld with 2 car batteries and jumper cables

[@ProlificInvention]

*Applied Science* I collect Niobium and Ferro-Niobium, would love to see you drill through the crystalline as well as solid bar forms using the EDM method. You are also the one guy who may be able to melt it in the home shop. Usually an electron beam welder type device is used to melt it, I had always wondered if a carbon arc mini foundry would be capable.

[@FFLFFS]

I had need for such a machine several times in my shop life and only guessed that such a machine existed. Not till now has the concept been shown as being practical and affordable. Thank you. Opens lots of new doors.

[@drumbum7999]

I had no idea this process was accessible. Thanks for the share.

[@esra_erimez]

Would you consider doing a video about graphene chemical vapor deposition?

[@Amipotsophspond]

Esra Erimez graph vapor d is easy get roll of copper put it in a methane atmosphere and cook it at high temps. u need to put seed xystal on the copper. I would like to see some en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-beam_lithography he already has a scope he could mod.

[@saml7610]

@@Amipotsophspond It would be a short video for sure. The process is actually very simple - it's the science behind it that's complex. Kind of like nuclear, it's actually very simple in concept, but the finer details are what gets ya.

[@actiglow]

Perhaps titianium nitride or gold vapor deposition?

[@namibjDerEchte]

@@actiglow I imagine depositing gold could be done with something akin to a plasma welder. I.e. HF arc between gold electrodes and blowing it with a suitable gas (likely argon or hydrogen, for not being in the way when the layer builds) onto the target. Maybe use magnets to focus the arc for better sputtering of gold when hit by plasma (higher current density==higher temperature to get a mix or sputtering and PVD). This could allow high-res additive manufacturing, by way of depositing a conductive film, printing/exposing a mask, followed by stripping the mask and briefly wet-etching the thin film. The aspect ratio is limited by the mask's aspect ratio, not by the ~0.5 you get from pure substracive wet etch (aka traditional PCB process). You could fill the voids from mask stripping with something and repeat. Note that buried vias are trivial in this technology, as well as buried semiconductor dies which are prepared for flip-chip mounting (though they might be preferred without balls).

[@jonathantenman5937]

Having operated edm drills in the past, I got really triggered seeing you bend the rods

[@dreggory82]

Same

[@RobertSzasz]

12:45

[@Alexander_l322]

What happens if you bent it?

[@mdrew44628]

@@Alexander_l322 same thing if you use a bent drill bit in a drill press.....larger hole than drill

[@siggyincr7447]

Hahaa, me too. I was strange just how much that annoyed me.

[@willstikken5619]

I haven't seen EDM in decades. Guess I really haven't found a need for it lately. We used carbon electrodes for drilling holes but we also had electrodes in special shapes which were used to essentially cut precision curved slots in hard to machine aerospace materials. Our coolant setup was very different from the one described. Coolant was similar to ordinary low pressure, high flow spot cooling for other machine types but the conductive coolant was different.

[@mikeselectricstuff]

Can we see inside the arc generator please!

[@inductorbackemf7204]

I second this!

[@nickdubiel2058]

Please!!!

[@TheWireEDM]

Check out my channel, I have a video (ZwFVmkptS00 from 14:50 onward) of the BaxEDM generator with a peek inside :)

[@AdityaMehendale]

Watch it (in great detail) on Mike Bax's KZbin channel! (BAXEDM) in Mike's own words ;) kzbin.info/door/y4kgsAYxcraee8w5SfqXPA

[@QuanrumPresence]

42 Seconds in, had to stop and like. Wow, you drill through tungsten carbide with that ease

[@PracticalEngineeringChannel]

So cool

[@dan110024]

Do you guys, like, know each other? Your icons always make me confused until I watch the video and see which it is

[@TheWireEDM]

@@dan110024 You are not alone :D Both are great, both have the same style.

[@treverwolverton9362]

Not to mention he very clearly walks us through every step, so that novice to expert is in full understanding of form and function, as well as what and where to go-to for parts and programs for running it. Impressive. He clearly watched ALOT of Mr. Wizard as a youth. Thank you Obi One....

[@burroaks7]

its the same reason your spark plugs get consumed over time

[@Kumquat_Lord]

Yep!

[@benm8503]

And why light switches click

[@benm8503]

Christian W ya got me

[@electronash]

The complexity and variety of projects that Ben works on is amazing. Always so thoroughly explained, too. Every video is a must-watch for me. Keep up the good work. ;)

[@andrew_koala2974]

That is the reason why you and others should continue to educate yourselves, learn proper English, be articulate and accurate in one's descriptions. That is only achieved when one has an extensive vocabulary. Learn from the example in the video and always strive for excellence. Perfection is NOT achievable ... Excellence is!

[@glenshort5123]

You sir, are brilliant. I don't usually leave comments, and this has nothing to do with anything I would ever be involved in, but I found this very fascinating and articulate.

[@isaackay5887]

*_I reeaalllyy want ElectroBoom to make one of these with his arc generator_*

[@Gh0sb0ss]

Drill through anything (conductive) with Electronic Dance Music

[@OmegaF77]

Drop so hard it went through tungsten carbide.

[@Sharpless2]

@@OmegaF77 get out!

[@BulletProofCupid7]

Who would've ever thought that drilling a freaking hole can get so cool

[@clock4883]

Even the tiniest things in life have the biggest amount of engineering behind them, it's really interesting to investigate the engineering and science behind some basic things we take for granted. I'd definitely watch Technology Connections' videos on these kind of things as they are seriously awesome.

[@Freeknickers24]

Dudes building megaliths.

[@tfp777]

Commonly used to remove broken taps a demo would be nice, the EDM machine I witnessed removing a tap was 30 years ago.

[@SidneyCritic]

Yeah it's been around a long time. My friend used to EDM Alum extrusion dies in the 80s.

[@djmips]

That makes sense! Thanks for that thought.

[@hillorystanton6209]

tfp777 we had a machine like this back in 1964 at the Naval ordnance plant.

[@johnhili8664]

Yes I had one 40 years ago it was called a taps disintegratior it was made in Australia:-)

[@superjeffstanton]

@@hillorystanton6209 thank you for the info by the way last same last names

[@billangell6478]

I did some EDM the other day. Jumped a starter on an engine with my pocket knife. 😂😂😂

[@dodge8802]

Was it a ford? My buddy has to start his F-150 by shorting the solenoid

[@billangell6478]

@@dodge8802 Kubota/Cummins generator

[@andrew_koala2974]

Your response and that of many others suggest that most of you have a brain the size of a peanut. Just because your head is shaped like a light bulb does not mean you are bright. Due to your lack of intelligence is why you have nothing of value to offer in any comment you write. That is patently obvious. And no point in ANYONE replying as notifications are deleted and replies unread. So go ahead and waste your time as I will not be wasting mine reading replies from dim-wits.

[@billangell6478]

@@andrew_koala2974 In all seriousness though, it took about 3 hours for the new starter and solenoid to arrive. If that piece of equipment isn't running we can't frac which means down time placed on my company. This fleet alone makes over a million dollars a day. I decided arcing the starter was the best solution to get it running and keep us fracking. Now that you have the context maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from.

[@kevinwatson9405]

@@billangell6478 I think little Andrew has a stick up his koala-ass....

[@electronicsNmore]

You've got excellent and very unique videos, unlike many other channels that show the same YT videos over and over.

[@maglight117]

EDM seems like it'd be a really good way to make a metal block for generating laminar flow.

[@maglight117]

I wish lmao

[@MRBthecharger]

@@NSRexler Lmao, same thought. I'll never hear laminar flow and not think about Destin.

[@DAVOinIN]

I thought the same thing! Destin has infiltrated all of our minds.

[@myates4652]

@@DAVOinIN Destin has been deemed a cyber weapon by our govt, so it's possible.

[@atmsoa9222]

I think the real question we should be asking is “how conductive does it have to be for EDM to work?”

[@alexipestov7002]

Well, one of those items was a graphite mold...

[@verteticsandras7202]

@@alexipestov7002 we use graphite as electrode too, it is conductive

[@donkyboy]

I just needs to be conductive and thats it.......

[@Kumquat_Lord]

I mean you can even cut diamonds with it

[@supadad1971]

I won't pretend for 1 second to have understood everything that was going on.. But, it certainly is mesmerizing.. Thanks..

[@SurajGrewal]

Do the NHK's drilling through pencil lead challenge.

[@99faucon]

Nigga u cute

[@UCmDBecUtbSafffpMEN3iscA]

Up!

[@lvd2001]

Excellent speaker - well spoken and explained

[@redseasplitter]

Now this is the kind of EDM I can get into.

[@alexscarbro796]

Excellent! How about trying to machine copper clad PCB? With a very fine tip, it may be a good solution. Also, you could monitor the conductivity as you machine the PCB to deal with lower quality boards that might have uneven copper thickness.

[@alexscarbro796]

Thinking about it further, you would have to rasterise the design to maintain a conductive path.

[@raiden00pl]

Copper is one of the worst materials for machining with EDM. That's why it is one of most popular material for EDM electrodes along with graphite (low electrode wear ratio).

[@alexscarbro796]

raiden00pl interesting! What is the nature of its “worseness”?

[@raiden00pl]

Copper has low material removal rate (MRR), which means that the machining is ineffective. Mainly because copper is a good heat conductor. Of course, EDM machinig is still possible but more difficult than for eg. tool steel.

[@cda32]

@@raiden00pl That's both awesome and annoying, and the reason we can't CO2 laser copper clad directly too :(

[@Kumquat_Lord]

One thing he didn't mention was the almost negligible heat affected zones. Other machining processes can change the properties of a material (work hardening by milling to aggressively comes to mind) but with an EDM you keep the material basically perfect, save for a microscopic area around the cut where the spark heats the material up

[@highstreetkillers4377]

Lol, "work hardening" that's what happens to idiots going too slow or wrong speed and feed. EDM is far from perfect, especially if you get the current, gap, or poor flushing wrong

[@bayboss510Nugguh]

Well, it is submerged you know.. Also, it looks like it's initiated by program and not by hand so it should be pretty much fool proof.

[@KallePihlajasaari]

@@highstreetkillers4377 Wow dude. I have now read 4 of your comments on this video and they have ranged from fear-mongering, to bragging, misinformation an now berating other commenters. May I suggest you make public posts in a calm and collected frame of mind to add to the goodness quotient of the global permanent record. If you have to vent just hit cancel instead of comment after writing your post and getting it off your chest.

[@TheWireEDM]

@@highstreetkillers4377 Dial it down and go back to your video games if constructive talks are difficult to operate. And what's with the air quotes? It is an actual thing which happens, either by accident or on purpose.

[@surgeeo1406]

@@KallePihlajasaari Hah, I do that sometimes... Always read before posting, evaluate if there's any good in it, and delete if it isn't. At least I expressed myself to myself, I don't have to be one of these guys...

[@Balowell--GG]

Nicely done video, you explain things very well. One thing I might suggest is making the bracket that holds the out of water ceramic electrode easily removable. That way you can insert the drill rod into that ceramic electrode and then reinstall the electrode with the drill rod already in place. I can see the concentricity issues at minute 20:17 but, that wobbling is between the upper electrode and the chuck. I don't see the wobble problem at 20:32. Anyway, just a comment from the peanut gallery. Great video I have more knowledge than I had yesterday and that's a good thing.

[@lCooLRusHl]

я вас растрою но вращение при такой обработке не требуется, вот если бы показали как делается отверстие спиральной формы имеющей конус еще и например в форме звезды... вот тогда я бы поверил что вращение нужно, но при таком вращении нужен прецизионный шаговый двигатель с безлюфтовым редуктором. Электрод не требуется часто менять, так что делать быстросъемным не нужно, да и горит сам электрод достаточно долго.

[@princeampadu8739]

4:32 - 4:48 When your mind is just ment for noticing silly jokes.

[@Drakkanna69]

I love technology and people's ability to find new things to do and how far they can push it. Great video.

[@agiantfrog]

yes. but this is very old technology. i run EDM machines and my teachers back in college had

[@dianamccandless7094]

SO WELL narrated! Excellent learning.

[@fp4303]

The world deserves a collab between Applied Science and This Old Tony.

[@baxedm9806]

Completely agree! :-)

[@thombaz]

Now he can drill trough his drill.

[@Cultureshockcrew]

Nice. I started running 5-axis EDM right out of high school. Ran cooling ops on jet engine parts.

[@vodkasour8385]

Well thats a nerd of a different color right there

[@funny-video-YouTube-channel]

Nice machine. It basically *blasts a hole with electricity* in anything conductive. Could we drill tunnels with this ?

[@Catubrannos]

Water's conductive so yes, this could be used to drill tunnels through the ocean.

[@CliffordHeath]

No - the erosion works by sudden heat changes in the workpiece at the focus of the arc, followed by influx of coolant.

[@highstreetkillers4377]

Professional EDM machine operators use oil. It's an electrolyte. Has nothing to do with cooling. Electricity arcs and explodes a micrscopic layer of metal away. With out good flushing the hole won't be accurate or round or nice finish. Professionals like me use drill bits, and for perfect or deep hole I use a gundrill. No machining business drills holes with a EDM, lol. 0.01" diameter holes are drilled with a gundrill

[@CliffordHeath]

@@highstreetkillers4377 the "explode" in explode away is caused by localised rapid heating and cooling. Yes, oil like kerosene is used

[@raydiofolk]

hello @@CliffordHeath , so if you can create an arc disharge between two rods the radiation will create heat and will blow of material of the rods and the object what ever

[@LoremIpsum1970]

I had contemplated a self build edm, now my savings account will get hit hard. Don't know if to thank you for this or not.

[@Superknullisch]

HAHAH! Good one!! : DDD

[@jokangpua2152]

Lemmings. and entire LOAD of Lemmings!

[@LoremIpsum1970]

@@jokangpua2152 do Lemmings taste anything like Guinea pig? That would be nice

[@Cole-ek7fh]

fun des lasers are cheaper.

[@LoremIpsum1970]

@@Cole-ek7fh ...looking at total cost I could probably get my very own Death Star for that much...not sure about the tolerances though...

[@vanderkarl3927]

I know he acknowledged it at the start of the video, but I can't help but hear "Electronic Dance Music" *every* time he says "EDM".

[@anonimo1633]

Could the concentricity problem be avoided by coating the side of the drill bit with a non-conductive paint or something similar? This way only the tip will be conductive at any given moment. Very interesting machining technique!

[@jarrettmosco9624]

Try carbon fiber, the fibers are conducive but the epoxy isn’t. I’m still optimistic though.

[@7z7able]

Probably the heat from the process will do the trrick, as long as there is conductivity, if there's any at all... because usualy the fibers are completely coated.

[@Snoken849]

@@7z7able maybe if you sand it first?

[@consaka1]

Yeah thats not going to work I'm thinking. It needs contact conductivity and the epoxy doesnt allow that.

[@donpollard9460]

The local engineering shop that I frequented during my formative years on the farm had one of these units, and you could 'eat' out a broken off bolt/stud/whatever - it used what looked like a 1/2 horse electric motor, that had been reconfigured to be an electromagnet; the circuit ran through the armature and back through the work piece. When you applied the lever and brought the tungsten electrode into contact with the work piece, it energised the armature and the the electrode was pulled away from the work piece and created your arc, thus eroding the part a little. Repeated application of the electrode kept eating away at the part until it was (most;y) removed, allowing the broken part to be extracted. Magic!

[@Cole-ek7fh]

Don Pollard no. magic is not real. electricity is real.

[@somebodyelse6673]

makes me think of lift-start TIG welding.

[@kurtolney6510]

Working on an old steam engine--might have an application.

[@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew]

I am very pleased with OpenBuilds components.

[@gb-dg5gi]

This is amazing, I pick up my jaw after seeing the tungsten bit with some small niddle through it!.

[@Trumplican]

would you be willing to say the approx. cost of this entire build? I would so love a setup like this but I don't know if I could afford it. Thanks...

[@davidcallista8618]

apparently not.

[@dallasroberts3206]

You do an excellent job of explaining all of this. Thank you!

[@sharxbyte]

DO you have a fume hood over the system? Zinc vapor is extremely harmful.

[@jleibrock1997]

is the water not enough?

[@deanmorrice3559]

@UH OH your name works perfectly with the comment. Well played good game.

[@tobeysdonutshop8251]

Did you not notice that the entire process takes place under water? There are no fumes or vapor that would contain any zinc. Just don't drink the water ...

[@nomerc3608]

Alexander Dieter-Burak No! He said he waters his plants with the used water, then he dumps a jug of new water in the tank... Half asleep talking 15 mgs of methadone per day plus several 40mgs cod one for pan and I caught what he said to do with the used water 💧... 100% service connected disabled US Navy Veteran I use to be smart before I was forced to start taking the pain medications!

[@3aeren]

@@nomerc3608 im on 60mg methadone a day divided into 2 doses, i was half asleep myself and i caught it too bahaahahahaa

[@fk6823]

I've been a EDM programmer/operator for 25 years... When I started my apprenticeship.. EDM was in its infancy. I run Wire, sinker and Hole popping machines. Even after 25 years.. I'm still learning new and interesting aspects of the technology almost every day. Wire EDM is the most accurate form of machining available today. We regularly achieve tolerances of .00005. Currently my company has 8 Fanuc Wire machines along with several sinkers and hole poppers.

[@yosyp5905]

.00005 what? attometers?

[@fk6823]

@@yosyp5905 fifty millionths or half a ten thousandths of an inch

[@yosyp5905]

@@fk6823 so, .00005 inches?

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

That's amazing! Could this be used on rocks?

[@fk6823]

@@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 no. Only metals

[@JKKnudsen]

I experimented with EDM using a 3d printer, and the door-bell EDM settup I saw on Jeri Ellsworth channel. Worked pretty well, and didn't need the pump assembly. Great way to remove broken drill bits stuck in your work-piece.

[@highstreetkillers4377]

lol, learn how to not break drills, lol. I used a 9/16" jobber drill as long as my shoulders to the ground, drilled with it on a compound angle through 6 intersections. If you're breaking drills you should be a carpenter

[@JKKnudsen]

​@@highstreetkillers4377 lol, 9/16"...

[@ArlynEmrys]

I need to do this with a broken threader bit. Dewalt Carbide steel #8-32

[@brandonacree4605]

Hey, great thing about Openbuilds is that if you need to extend your Z axis to account for a longer probe if you don't want to cut them short, you can get a longer threaded rod and matching C-beam to extend the height.

[@turk639]

You can just measure the conductivity if it's too high just take some of it away and fill with distilled. This way you always stay in range and save on water

[@sasjadevries]

Isn't that exactly what he explained to be doing?

[@turk639]

@@sasjadevries No he said he didn't measure it and just replaced the water from time to time

[@w0ttheh3ll]

and you can mix the initial fill of distilled water with some tap water to bring it into range, too.

[@superalvin7208]

w0ttheh3ll or just put your finger in it and swirl around

[@NathanaelNewton]

Imagines scenario: 'Dude, how are you plants so big.. omg.?!?' 'I've been feeding them a mix of tungsten carbide and steel from my edm machine' 'Wat..??'

[@lance00000000000000]

Hmm, pretty interesting. Next time try techno I would love to see the effects. 🤔👍

[@sennysoon]

I always knew EDM was destructive. This is proof.

[@jonalarcon8564]

Ansen Soon some rifle barrels are made by the EDM process like the wind runner model 96 50 cal rifle how do I know I have one and it was very expensive

[@sennysoon]

@@jonalarcon8564 you may have a nice gun, but I think you missed the point.

[@jonalarcon8564]

Ansen Soon no I haven't missed the point iv known of this technology for years and apparently so did the Peruvian people just like that tiny bead that was found on that mummy that was thousands of years old

[@nahu4870]

@@jonalarcon8564 yes, you've missed the point, I'm pretty sure he was making a joke about Electronic Dance Music (also known as EDM)

[@jonalarcon8564]

Nahu won't be the first

[@stevewaclo167]

I believe tiny holes in fuel injectors are made with this process.

[@andrewchristiansen8311]

jets in carbs too

[@stephenlloyd3064]

Confirmed. I ran EDM machines using oil and water as a temp on 3rd shift at a local fuel injector plant not far from BMW 20+ years ago. They were phasing out the oil based units.

[@GroBestGardens]

The holes in fuel injectors could also be done with a laser, assuming that that they are through-hole and non blind holes.

[@superalvin7208]

GroBestGardens why can’t a laser create blind holes?

[@GroBestGardens]

@@superalvin7208 ... Yes, you are correct. A laser can certainly create blind holes. Just need to be more careful with the setup (laser power and duration) to accurately control the depth. Technically, a high pressure water-jet (at 40,000-100,000 psi) could perhaps make the small blind holes too (depending on the size), but it wouldn't be my first choice (as there would be a couple of disadvantages to this method). Ed

[@stupidhead9117]

Yeah, but how much?

[@TechsScience]

So it drills only on conducting materials But still it's taken my heart

[@mduckernz]

If it's not conductive you just haven't used enough voltage

[@KawaiiM4A1S]

so, he even cleared up what he meant by "EDM" but my mind is still confused for a split second every time he says it lmfao

[@milliondollaroptions]

I think I could make a business of cutting into safes...lol

[@lahma69]

I'm a reverse code engineer by trade but holy geeze... There is some unidentified logic in my brain that is inherently inquisitive about the ability to drill a teeny tiny hole through almost any conductive material you can imagine... These materials were specifically produced in order to resist the most abrasive materials and processes that man works with yet its almost as if you've managed to just push a small pin through them as if they were butter... So freaking cool! What I really want to know though is how the heck they create such a teensy tiny hole in those conductive rods that are already ridiculously tiny.

[@JaakkoF]

Normal method of getting power to the electrode is with copper "shoe" pushed against the spindle with a spring. Better of course is two opposing ones so there is no sideways force applied. This is done in EDM drills, die sinkers with a C-axis and wire EDM A-axis.

[@dmk351]

Arc Generators, EDM machines; just another rave at Stark Tower...

[@cmdraftbrn]

woohoo, someone else that has their taskbar on the leftside of the screen! i'm no longer alone

[@UnitSe7en]

And people call _me_ a heathen for putting it at the top... Sheesh.

[@cmdraftbrn]

i know that feelin

[@michaels840]

Mine is on the right.

[@jasonk795]

You read a book from left to right. How's that weird? I do the same. It's kind of nice knowing that you're not like everybody else. Is that weird?

[@stick6969]

I use two monitors with the taskbar on the left of the right monitor, right in the middle where it should be

[@DakotaSiberious]

Electrical discharge machining drilling machine, wow that’s a mouthful.

[@earthstewardude]

This guy needs to come over to my shop and hang out until I die! He's my new hero!

[@s_t_8_l_e_s_s]

Love your videos I always learn something. So much clickbate these days it's nice to have some content. Thanks Ben

[@j0hmama]

is there a linux version of this EDM control software? what was the cost of this build? can you post a link for the software?

[@lCooLRusHl]

могу предположить, что этим станком с легкостью будет управлять любое ПО для 3d принтера в небольшой доработкой...

[@Joe11Blue]

@@lCooLRusHl no

[@lCooLRusHl]

@@Joe11Blue смешно...

[@Joe11Blue]

@@lCooLRusHl no

[@PieterSchreurs]

There is a complete video on the baxedm youtube channel talking about the software. because with edm machining there is no set speed controll but the speed is set by the arc generator there are very limited software options. If you only want to do drilling instead of cnc milling or wire cutting it should not be to difficult to rewrite the speedcontrol layer to work on your desired linux system.

[@bunzino8617]

I run Makino sinker EDMs and the capabilities of the machine is nuts! Super precise and some materials we also use for machining is Graphite/Carbon. There is different types of PoCo as well.

[@GermanAnimationen]

There was a japanese game Show who 2 guys tried to Drill a hole in a pencil lead one Guy with edm and the other Guy with a traditional lathe :)

[@thomasblank4691]

Supreme skill

[@highstreetkillers4377]

I saw that, a joke. It'd be hard but not impossible. Pay me and I'll easily do it. Gundrill a hole the diameter of lead in alumnium. Clamp aluminum in collet to support the thin lead walls during drilling. Gundrill through lead. Easy. Graphite is soft so i'd have to feed it quick