Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory vs. Tuono V4 1100 RR - Direct Comparison MY 2017

[@ChrisMag100]

One note. The chassis geometry is different between the RSV4 and Tuono. This was not the case with the V2 versions. Aprilia changed the geometry to improve stability.

[@hiimchad]

Appreciate the info! Is that the steering head angle that makes the geometry different between the two?

V2 gen2 tuono factory had an ohlins rear shock with adjustable ride height as standard. Base model didn't.

[@ChrisMag100]

@ I think you might be mistaken. Every OEM Sachs Aprilia shock I have seen from the Gen-1 RSV and Tuono through the V4 had ride height adjustment also. Certainly my 03 Tuono R (non racing) did, as did my 2011 RSV4. Edit: found a thread about the Gen-2. You might be right that Aprilia removed that feature (cheaped out) on the 06+ Tuono. Seems that some owners swap to the RSVR rear Sachs to get right height.

[@ChrisMag100]

@@hiimchad I don’t recall the exact specifics. Years ago, I considered buying the parts to convert my RSV4 to a Tuono and was told by Ed at AF1 racing that aprilia ran into high speed stability issues when testing the preproduction Tuono V4. That was the rationale for changing the rake and/or trail. When I looked it up, he appeared to be correct and I scrapped the plan.

@@ChrisMag100 gen2 tuono's sachs rear shock did not have ride height adjustment. It only had preload and rebound. Gen1 had the same sachs shock as the rsv mille and it sure had the ride height adjustment. Gen 2 had diffenet sachs shocks for tuono and rsv. Luckily my gen2 base-model tuono has öhlins shock fitted :)

[@hiimchad]

Shoutout to @IndyMotoRider for catching something I missed while talking about the tires. The Tuono Factory comes with a 200/55/17 rear tire, while the Tuono RR comes with a 190/55/17. Both bikes wear the same size front tire, 120/70/17, with the Factory having Pirelli Supercorsas and the RR having Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIIs when delivered.

[@lauriL90]

id add that according to manual, factory bike 200/55 is only for supercorsa sp tyre. Any other tyre recommended size is same 190/55 as for RR. Anyway, im running 200/55 rosso corsa 2 on factory and feeling fine.

[@hiimchad]

@@lauriL90 those are indeed Aprilia’s recommendations! I’m actually running a 200/60 Supercorsa TD in the rear currently and after recalibrating aPRC all seems well. It’s the second one of these I’ve had and it’s fantastic. 🙂

[@johnbayliss1098]

I apologize for asking you twice about the 2016 model your review is excellent I really enjoyed it that's why I had to watch it over again thank you

[@hiimchad]

No worries! Glad you're finding the video enjoyable. 🙂 Thanks for letting me know you liked it!

[@Kurlach]

Great review bud, really fair and informative. Just picked up a Tuono Factory in the UK 🙌🏻

[@hiimchad]

Thanks for watching, I appreciate the support and feedback! Congratulations on your Factory as well! Which model year? Guessing a 2020 based on your profile image. 🙂

[@Kurlach]

@@hiimchad sure is! But I’m a bit bummed, much prefer the color scheme of yours. But it’s all good!

[@hiimchad]

@@Kurlach The 2017 Superpole graphic on the Factory is the best one Aprilia has ever made in my opinion 😁 That said, must be nice to have the semi-active suspension! How do you like that?

[@Kurlach]

@@hiimchad I was a bit dubious at first, but the ride quality is awesome. I’d trade it for your color scheme tho 😉

[@kashy1116]

Chris H, how Did you find owning a Tuono in the UK?

[@jcaccord]

Dude. You’re ready to do MC Commute haha. But awesome video. Learned a lot, now I know a lot more than just the fact that Tuonos are badass bikes.

[@hiimchad]

Glad you enjoyed Jeff! Thanks for the feedback 🙂 Maybe I should try to get friendly with one of our local dealers.. 🤔

[@IndyMotoRider]

Just a couple things to note early in the video. The 3 rider modes are all full power modes. The only thing they really affect is engine braking. Max engine braking in Sport (which can make the throttle feel snatchy), "standard" engine breaking in Track, and less in Race. Also, the 175 horsepower can be misleading as Aprilia gives these numbers at the crank. You can expect ~155 horsepower at the wheel (dino). And not sure if this holds true with 2017, but the 2020 factory comes with a 200mm rear tire, slightly wider than the RR.

[@hiimchad]

Appreciate the comment! Everything you mentioned here looks accurate. It's typical for manufacturers here to report engine performance at the crank, so I figured that went without saying, but that is helpful to clarify. As far as the rider modes go, I skimmed over those pretty quickly, as this wasn't an in-depth review of the Tuono, but a comparison of what is different between the two models. I did go into deeper detail on the engine maps in my Tuono V4 RR Long-Term Owner Review video, and since they're the same between the RR and Factory, I didn't spend a lot of time on them. That said, you are correct in that they do all produce full power and reduce the engine braking from Sport to Track to Race. They also change the way power is delivered. While all make full power, Track and Race give you a little more kick in the midrange than Sport. Also, Sport's throttle response isn't as sharp as Track or Race, not just in terms of snatchiness when rolling off due to engine braking, but also when rolling on there is a bit more of a delay. You are correct on the tire sizes as well. The Factory model has always come with a 200/55 rear tire, whereas the RR has always had a 190/55, and that is something I missed. I'll see if I can lay text over the video at those points to make those clarifications/corrections. Thanks for bringing them to my attention, and watching the video! Did you enjoy it?

[@IndyMotoRider]

@@hiimchad yes, enjoyed the video! I love Aprilia. Went from a GSXR 600 to a Tuono Factory. Perfect blend of power and comfort

[@hiimchad]

@@IndyMotoRider it’s amazing, especially coming from a supersport bike! It was a welcomed upgrade from my Daytona 675R as well 😁

[@satyenarke]

I agree to a lot of things you've said about the RR vs the RF. Nice video Chad 👍

[@hiimchad]

Thanks Satyen! 😁

[@gabrieljohannson6777]

I had the TuonoRR 2017. It was a nightmare to own in the city. It did not like speeds below 30km at all. Below 30km it would cavitate to the point of coming close to stalling or kicking you off. It would only be happy above 7,000rpm. The cooling fans packed it in within 2,000km. The cooling pump also packed it in before 5,000. Thankfully the warranty & the dealer kept money in my pocket in both cases. I lost my license twice in one year. Twice. It's a magical motorbike but I wouldn't buy it again unless their new models (2021+) have resolved the fueling issue. Great video tho.

[@hiimchad]

Thanks Gabriel, glad you enjoyed the video! Sorry to hear you had a negative experience with your Tuono. It certainly isn’t smooth at low low rpm, but I’ve found both my bikes felt pretty smooth from about 4k on. I wonder if the flashes have anything to do with that. But significant clutch feathering is required below 3k. So the cooling fans stopped working? That’s something I’ve never heard of before. Was your engine ok? Overheating can be nasty business! Glad you didn’t have to come out of pocket for a fix. Definitely the way it should be if you bought from a dealer. It is definitely a license-risking machine, but to your point, it is magical when it’s doing its thing! 🙂

[@colin55594]

Only happy above 7k? That doesn't sound right

[@A.J.1656]

Most 1000cc bikes won't be happy putting along at 18mph. lol

[@Antmanmoto]

Damn that red and black color scheme is a manly looking machine!!! I love it!!!

[@hiimchad]

Right!? I think I've seen another one on Insta and KZbin that is just as beastly! 😂

[@ronaldk.wileyjr.5476]

Thank you, EXACTLY the video I was looking 4!

[@hiimchad]

Glad you enjoyed, Ron! We'll be back to regularly scheduled programming here shortly. I appreciate your support! 🙂

[@leroyjones769]

Santiago canyon and Ortega Hwy. We are lucky to live where we live. Hope to run into some day. Nice review.

[@hiimchad]

Glad you enjoyed! We certainly are, and I do my best to enjoy it every day. 🙂 What city are you in?

[@leroyjones769]

@@hiimchad ... Tustin Ranch

[@leroyjones769]

@@hiimchad ...Jamboree Blvd

[@SuperbikeDiscovery]

@@hiimchad Oh wow I just realized!!!! I live in Mission Viejo! hahaha lets gooooooo somewhere!!!

[@jerseyboycustoms]

oh shit! im in san clem, ortega is my backyard haha

[@philwilkins3976]

Great review so far. Unfortunately the adverts keep crashing and stop the rest of the review playing

[@hiimchad]

Hey Phil! Sorry to hear about the issue with the ads crashing. Not sure there is much I can do about that, but appreciate your feedback from what you've been able to watch so far. 🙂

[@TheJamie2405]

Good vid bud. Another difference that you didn’t mention is the forged/cast wheels as well. Jealous of your constant good weather over the pond!

[@hiimchad]

Hey Jamie, appreciate the feedback and kind words! We do have it pretty nice over here for the most part, which is the biggest reason I haven't left. 😁 The 2017 Factory Tuono doesn't actually have forged wheels. My understanding is that the 2015/16 Factory did, but for whatever reason, Aprilia ditched them in 2017. I confirmed this on my bike, as well as a brand new 2020 Tuono Factory that was for sale at my local dealer the last time I stopped in for service. You can see the hollow area in the center of the hub from the mold it was cast in. I was under the impression they were forged as well, but the tech pointed it out to me when we were talking about why I bought this/was bringing it in instead of my RR that they've seen in the past. Maybe it helped keep their margins consistent with the Bosch IMU and other improvements? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TheJamie2405]

@@hiimchad ahh really? That’s surprised me a lot to be honest. Maybe it could be a US thing? I’m on a 2019 V4 RR (same colour as yours, the best IMO) and all the reading I’ve done says the two main differences are the Ohlins and the wheels. I will say though, I’ve done all my reading on ‘19 bikes onwards so that might the the difference (as well as electronic suspension). Ahhh well, I’ve been enjoying your vids regardless haha 👌🏻

[@hiimchad]

I was surprised as well, for the same reason! Most motorcycle magazines/articles say they are forged. The 2020 RSV4 Factory still had forged wheels (confirmed this at my dealer by taking a look, no hollow area in the center hub) and I think the 2017-19 RSV4 did as well, just not those years of Tuono Factory. Location could have something to do with it too, so do you happen to know anyone in the UK with a 2017-20 Tuono Factory we could ask? 😅

[@TheJamie2405]

@@hiimchad hmmm might have to do some digging (not that it affects my life in any way 😅). Unfortunately I don’t know anyone with another Ape, let alone a Tuono. That was one of the attractions, the “left-field” choice. That, and the noise 🤤

[@hiimchad]

@@TheJamie2405 it’s the best noise 🤤

[@Elprez69]

Had the 2012 tuono most fun engine I've ever owned!...and I've owned a lot of bikes..only problem is that it fell apart in front of my eyes lol so sad hope the newer models are better because that v4 is unbelievable fun

[@hiimchad]

Oh no! Sorry to hear about that. I have read that the first couple years of the Tuono (2012 and 2013) are susceptible to engine and transmission issues. It does seem Aprilia was able to work these out gradually, though, and from the research I’ve done and through my own experiences, the later model bikes seem to be pretty reliable. There are of course some bad eggs out there, but I think they’re much fewer and farther between. 🙂 Would you consider getting another later model year Tuono?

[@Elprez69]

@@hiimchad I'm actually looking at a 17 factory right now so we'll see thanks for video

[@hiimchad]

@@Elprez69 happy to share what I know! Best of luck finding the right bike. 🙂

[@sferreirac]

Would love to see a comparison with a 2019 Tuono Factory with the electronic suspension. I've heard it can be softer then the RR when in "comfort suspension mode".

[@hiimchad]

I would love to make that video if I could get my hands on a 2019 or 2020 Factory! Unfortunately, I don't know anyone that has one, and I'm not sure how willing my local dealer would be to let me borrow one for an afternoon. 😅

[@ivanmendoza7602]

The tail winglets/fairings is the one big thing I’d love to have on my RR. AF1 has them on order but they are so EXPENSIVE.lol The 19’ Tuono and RSV4 base are flat black, and it’d be sick to have that murdered out tail end.

[@hiimchad]

It really is! It would be much cheaper to piece your own kit together on eBay, but also a lot more time consuming. You pay AF1 for that convenience! That would look sick though 😈

[@BizAutomation]

Unless you're hung up on the look differential (you can buy after market graphics and seat converters fairly cheap), you're much better off buying the stock Tuono, then putting the cheapest Nitron shock you can buy, which will be setup for your weight from the UK for about $900, and will be as good or better than the low end Ohlins, then get a GP suspension for the front, for $1,100 which is better than the Factory Ohlins. Then, you can spend $400 on the UpMap Gabro remap, and you will essentially have a better than Facroty version for less. If you want to add even more, then get a set of forged wheels for $2K, then you will be way way better than factory as even the factory wjeels are cast.... all for about the same money.

[@hiimchad]

Hey there! Appreciate the thoughts and tips, lots of great aftermarket parts out there for these bikes. If you were buying one brand new back in 2017, this may be the case, but in my experience, the price differential between a 17 RR and a 17 Factory isn't much. For $2K, you can have suspension components to set up a superb bike, but then you're looking at another $500-1000 to get them installed and dialed in, unless you're doing that all yourself, which I'd reckon most people aren't. And if you do want to go for the Factory look, the tail conversion pieces alone cost $800-1000 depending on if you go for the AF1 kit or piece it all out yourself, not to mention the time and effort. So, I think it's fair to say you're looking at something like $3-4k to get the suspension on a similar level to the Factory and to do the tail conversion, not to mention all the time and effort, to set up an RR like a Factory. I haven't paid too much attention to the market recently, but when I bought my Factory back in January 2021, Factory models were going for ~$1k more than RRs of similar year/mileage/condition. I actually sold my RR for exactly what I paid for my Factory just a few months later. Beyond that, the stock Ohlins suspension, while of course not the top-tier flagship racing components, is still very good, much more than most riders will be able to extract peak performance from, myself included at this stage. Can you set up an RR like a Factory? Sure. Is it the best option? That all depends. Having owned both, I can say I am very happy I decided to switch from the RR to my Factory. I did a breakdown and cost analysis to do exactly what you've described, and it was in the $4k range. Hopping on a Factory was easier, and luckily ended up costing me nothing but tax and registration. But even if it had cost me $1-2k more than I recouped from my RR, I'd still be delighted. If you're into modding bikes because that's what you enjoy, my way may not be the right way for you, but I think there is something to be said for being able to get a bike, put in a small amount of effort to dial in what it has, and just enjoy it. 🙂

[@MrJamesrossi46]

Repping the 58 Sic👍🏻 so nice to see

[@hiimchad]

Thanks James! Glad you appreciate the little tribute. 🙂 He did win a world championship on an Aprilia, after all!

[@RUBBERNMETAL]

A great review and comparison. I’ve always thought Aprilia makes the best sounding V4 motors currently. I rode an Aprilia for the first time last weekend the RS660 and was totally in love with the character even tho it’s half of your bike. Loving the sound of the V4 throughout the video. Btw what camera are you using to record?

[@hiimchad]

Hey there! I appreciate the compliment and wholeheartedly agree! I think it's the best sounding engine period, personally. 😁 I was able to take an RS660 out on track for a session at an Aprilia Racer Days event a few weeks back and also felt similar! It's a great chassis and setup, particularly with the electronics. Definitely a good time! Are you in the market for one? All of the non-riding footage was recorded with my iPhone 12. The riding/motovlog footage is all with my GoPro Hero 5 Session, GoPro's mic adapter, and a mic from Giant Squid Audio Labs.

[@onewayroy5012]

@hiimchad what do you recommend a v4 or a rs660 . For street riding and canyon carving . Ik the 660 has more usable power for the twisties . But overall what bike will leave a grin on your face the longest .

[@BizAutomation4U]

Looks like you're in OC. In terms of ROI, I bought the RR, and replaced the rear shock with a custom Nitron for $1K (better than Ohlins IMO), then had GP Suspension replace the fork internals (better than Ohlins IMO). Then I sold the stock cast wheels and upgraded to the forged wheels (BTW - Even factory doesn't come with forged wheels). Then to finish it up I converted the tail section to factory (lots of great aftermarket kits out there) which I like better than the factory as you can customize the graphics. Oh, and also bought the factory stickers for the frame and side of the bike. So, for about 3-5K more, you can turn turn an RR into a better than stock Factory bike for less money.

[@hiimchad]

Very nice! I bought my Factory for $1K more than my RR, which I expect to get most, if not all of my money back out of. It seems you and I are part of the few that knew the 2017+ Factory doesn’t come with forged wheels, lots of people kept commenting that I had missed that. 🙃 I thought about doing the work to convert my RR, but decided the Factory was the easiest option for me. And at the end of the day, it won’t have cost me more than $1500 to make the switch, which I’m very happy with. 🙂 What year is your bike?

[@BizAutomation4U]

@@hiimchad $1K more is a steal. I'm in Palos Verdes, and as far as I know, the only rider up here with a Tuono (not many of us as you may know). Mine is a 2017 which I got from a desperate college student about a year ago in San Francisco. He bought it without his parents in Hawaii knowing, and when they found out, he was in trouble, and had to unload it ASAP... hence I got an amazing deal. It already had a race ECU upgrade, and the same SC pipe you have on yours, only around here it was too loud, so I did a custom pipe, similar to the acro but in stainless steel (I like it better because everyone has the Akro setup). I couldn't be more happy with the GP Suspension upgrade (They're in Oxnard) for the forks, and the Nitron in the back. Let me know if you plan to do any more track days. I'm getting up to ACH more often now, so if don't always like going solo there, let me know and we'll take both Tuono's up the canyon one of these days. I have another friend that rides up there with me if I go on a weekend.

[@hiimchad]

Right on, I'll keep that in mind! My canyon carving days seem to be behind me for the most part, but I will be up at Buttonwillow on 4/19 with Let's Ride Trackdays. Have you had your Tuono on track yet?

[@BizAutomation4U]

@@hiimchad Not yet, but I'd love to go this year... if you do, let me know and maybe we can round up a few other riders. Why are your canyon carving days behind you ?

[@hiimchad]

@@BizAutomation4U I’d be open to that! I just don’t go much at all. If I do, it’s usually just for a mellow cruise. Been spending more time at the racetrack for my fast fix. 🙂 I’ve been going at least once a month, usually to Buttonwillow, so if you are headed out that way, let me know and I’ll swing by your pit to say hello!

[@Shafiq1969]

I started off by checking out the Ducati SP2 and after reading many reviews, I’m now waiting to test ride the Factory and then the Tuono also. Like the thought of enjoying a slightly more upright riding position, being 55 years young 😂. Anyone in the U.K. share thier views on degree of comfort between the two model variants? Thanks

[@rodmiller9229]

What a great video, well done 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@hiimchad]

Thanks Rod! Appreciate your support! 😁

[@adamcarroll2366]

Great review and comparison. I was wondering what the differences were as I am in the market for one of these bad boys. Who wouldn't want to spring for the upgraded ohlins! -pun

[@hiimchad]

Hey Adam, glad you enjoyed! The Ohlins are quite nice, but I wouldn't say it's necessary hardware unless you're in the canyons or on track on a somewhat regular basis. That said, it is certainly nice to have! 🙂 Are you shopping for a Tuono currently?

[@adamcarroll2366]

@@hiimchad I am sort of in limbo, watching for a good deal, also considering an r6, r1 or even an RSV4 if my wallet permits it. I am a diehard Motogp/superbike fan and always had a soft spot for the Yamahas, but Aprilia seems to know how to put a potent bike out for a good price. Also, I own a rs125 so it would be cool to extend the Aprilia fam.

[@hiimchad]

@@adamcarroll2366 Yamaha does make some amazing machines, but I think the Aprilia's are a bit more exciting and have more character. That's awesome that your have an RS125! I think you should seriously consider keeping your garage all Aprilia if possible. 🙂

[@adamcarroll2366]

@@hiimchad it's an 09' lorenzo livery, that used to be tracked, wired up and titled for the street! I grabbed an autograph from Jorge himself on a spare windscreen at the Indy Motogp 2014!!! Definitely a keeper. Was my 1st bike. I heard a term used to describe the Tuono when compared to it's rivals: Sharper. That's enough for me. However I owned a 2005 monster S4r for a short while and it was super maintenance heavy. Are the Aprilias bad too, being Italians?

[@hiimchad]

@@adamcarroll2366 That's awesome! She must be a beauty. 🤤 What an awesome keepsake as well, and really cool that you have his signature and his livery! Hope you keep them together in your garage! 😁 Thus far, neither Tuono has required anything out of the usual and have been very reliable. Oil and filter changes every 3K or less (the manual says 6,250, but I think that's too long), chain maintenance every 200ish miles. My RR burns some little oil. It works out to a bit less than a quart every 2-3k miles, but I just check my oil every time I service the chain, and top off as needed, usually no more than 100ml. My Factory burns almost no oil. Recommended service isn't much different from other Euro bikes. Valve clearance check and adjustments if needed every 12.5k miles, air filter check and replace if needed every 6,250 miles is recommended as well. I did have to have the software on the dash updated at my dealer which fixed a strange issue with the odometers on both bikes. The first few feet they traveled after being powered on (engine on or off), they would add .1 miles for every couple feet they traveled up to .4 or .5 miles, then they would start adding mileage normally. I think they fixed this from the factory on 2019s and 2020s, but 2017s and 18s may require that dash update to resolve the issue, not that is really has any impact on riding the bike. I just don't like adding artificial miles to my bikes. 🙂

[@jollibee_racer]

I’ve got the 2018 RR and wish so much I just got the factory in hindsight. Turns out I like my track time way to much. I still don’t think the Sachs suspension should be talked down and it definitely holds up on track with other bikes. I wonder if I had the ohlins if it would make me a quicker rider. I through the some Diablo Supercorsa tyres on and the bike became way more track friendly.

[@hiimchad]

That was part of the reason I ended up switching to a Factory! Even with the suspension set up properly there was just a little too much softness and travel on track. The RR is still great to ride on track, but the Factory is just a little bit more precise. Changing out the tires on my RR did wonders too. Just going up to the Q3+ from Dunlop made a huge improvement. Do you think you’ll ever trade out for a Factory?

[@jollibee_racer]

@@hiimchad I really don’t like the look of the new Tuono and I was let down on the no change to power output with the 2021 model. I could also just purchase some k teck track suspension customised to my weight being a heavy 95kg. I still love the Tuono but I am considering the new Street Fighter S for the next purchase. I am going to wait another year or two and hope Aprilia ups the power, puts some wings on it and changes the colour scheme as my favourite is the Factory superpole 2016-2019. I’d rather purchase a Aprilia over a Ducati but Aprilia needs to up the nakeds power.

[@hiimchad]

@@jollibee_racer Right on. Personally, I was whelmed with the fact that they decided to keep the same engine and keep output the same. Yeah, it would have been cool if it made as much as the Streetfighter V4, but, it costs a lot less ($19K USD for the 2021 Tuono V4 Factory vs. $25K USD for a Streetfighter V4S), and still has plenty of power. I don't know about you, but I can't see a situation where I would really need that extra 30hp. Plus, the 65 degree V4 sounds much nicer than Ducati's 90 degree engines. 🙂

[@jollibee_racer]

@@hiimchad all very true. The 2 tracks in Western Australia aren’t even long enough to be able to stretch the legs of the Tuono. All I know is when I try and keep up to the 200hp bikes I just fall behind. Aprilia V4 is still the best sounding bike out!

[@harrygrooms259]

Good evening, I have a 2020 Tuono V4 1100 Factory, where did you purchase the bar end mirrors?

[@hiimchad]

Hi Harry, happy to help! I bought the mirrors and the bar ends required to mount them from AF1Racing.com. Links below: Mirrors: www.af1racing.com/CRG-Bar-End-Mirror-Arrow-Series-Sold-Each Bar end mounts: www.af1racing.com/RhinoMoto-Bar-Ends-WMirror-Recesses-Round-End-BK How long have you had your Tuono?

[@tuonofever904]

The RR and the Factory have the same size 43mm front fork. You didnt mention that the Factory also has lighter forged wheels. Between the RR and the Factory 95% of the riders out there will never notice the difference nor turn a faster time on the track with the Factory over the RR. Insurance is also cheaper with the couple of insurance companies I called as well. The RR and the Factory use the exact same seat. Great video though! You need to add another 17-20 horsepower putting power up to 174 wheel HP. That plus going up to a 44 tooth rear sprocket can make 6th gear wheelies cresting over hills over a 120 is a blast!

[@hiimchad]

Glad you liked the video! You’re right about the forks, not sure why I said they are larger in the video, just caught that.. The wheels are actually not forged on the 2017-2020 Tuono Factory. It says they are in just about every publication that wrote a review when the bike came out, but that is incorrect. My dealer pointed this out to me when I had the bike in for service last time and chatting up the tech about why I switched to the Factory. Both my bike, and a brand new 2020 that was on the showroom floor have hollow wheel hubs, reminiscent of the mold used to cast the wheel. The RSV4 Factory next to it did in fact have forged wheels, and that hollow area was not present. I’m not sure what happened here, because the 2015/16 Tuono Factory did in fact have forged wheels, but the bikes afterwards do not. As for power, what I have is plenty for me 😁 I was getting it a bit sideways on corner exit in a few spots last time I was on track! Needs stickier tires...

[@tuonofever904]

@@hiimchad let's sue and see if we can get lighter wheels! Oh and what's wrong rounding a corner on just the rear wheel? 1st time that ever happened to me was on my bike on a chicane....ass puckered at 1st...now it's a blast!

[@tuonofever904]

@@hiimchad what tires are you running now? I've been in love with the Rosso 3 but the Rosso 4 is coming out this year. Theres a subtitled review on the tire on a wide variety of bikes. They were extremely impressed. I'll post a link

[@hiimchad]

@@tuonofever904 I’m on the Rosso IIIs right now, as the previous owner had replaced them not long before I bought the bike. Figure I’ll run them until they’re out of tread, but I’m not a big fan thus far. I’m a Dunlop guy, and have a set of the Q3+ on my Tuono RR and love them. There’s noticeably more grip on the side of the tire for me than the Rosso IIIs. When it is time to replace, I’ll probably opt for the Q3+ or the Q4. Have you ridden Dunlops before?

[@tuonofever904]

@@hiimchad I have not ran the Dunlops before at all. I'm kinda shocked you have concerns with the cornering of the Rosso 3. I'm assuming you've played with tire pressures? For the country blacktop roads we have around Kansas City the curves are marked as low as 25 but normally taken between 40-50 and can take 50mph marked curves over 100 I run 32F 35R. No traction control. Only have ABS on set at 1 so I can back it in for fun. Now Arkansas is a whole different ball game. 28F 32R. Arkansas roads are every bit as technical as some of the tought tracks and then some. Coming down the side of a mountain on switchback that have U shaped corners marked at 10mph that actual means 10mph and has such a step grade you damn near feel like you're doing a rolling stoppie for a 1/4. Such a blast! I cant remember what part of the country you're in but if Arkansas is ever a destination of choice I'll set up everything and we can have a great weekend. The best part about Arkansas is that unlike how busy and the amount of law enforcement on the Tail of the Dragon is that Arkansas rarely has cops in the areas that are the most fun. Its extremely cheap as well. Typically we have 3-4 bikes on a trailer and we grab hotel rooms at the cleanest roach hotel. Leave Kansas City on a Friday morning, by 10am we are at the hotel, unload bikes, run Friday, all day Saturday, up to about 3 on Sunday afternoon and head back to KC. Typically 1000 miles put on the bikes. When we divide the cost of rooms, food, and pitch in gas to owner of the truck we came down in we RARELY spend more than $200 each.

[@patriotarborist711]

Great video! what brand of mirrors are those?

[@hiimchad]

Thanks! I have the CRG Arrow mirrors on RhinoMoto bar end sliders/mirror mounts. Absolutely love them!

[@colin55594]

Had a ducati supersport 950 as my first Bike. Rode for 2 months. The tuono is insane made the ducati feel like shit.

[@hiimchad]

The Tuono really is in a whole different class 😅

[@dakaarbrown6212]

Do you notice a difference with the 200 rear tire on the factory vs the 190 on the rr?

[@hiimchad]

Yes, the 200 has a little more edge grip and also steers a little quicker because of the taller profile. With the Pirelli, it makes the center of the tire pointier.

[@Treo80]

Not sure if you mentioned it i one of the videos, but how do You like those clear tank grips?

[@hiimchad]

Hey there! I don't think I have made mention of the clear tank grips yet, but I have been content with them overall. They get dirty kind of quick from my riding jeans, which are black, but a little water and a microfiber cloth takes it off. I prefer the TechSpec Snakeskin grips that I had on my Tuono RR and have on my Daytona 675R, but went for the Stomp Grips because I wasn't finding a lot of other clear tank grips that had good reviews. I really didn't want to obstruct the bike Aprilia Superpole graphic on the sides of the bike, and lots of people complain about other brands turning yellow pretty quickly. So, they're a bit rougher feeling than I would prefer, but I'd rather have them that buy another brand that will look bad. 🙂 Are you shopping for tank grips for your Tuono?

[@Treo80]

@@hiimchad Thanks for your detailed reply! I'm picking up a '17 Factory on saturday so shopping for mods is perhaps a little premature, but I know from experience that I dislike a slippery tank. And like you, I don't want to cover the graphics completely.

[@myaccount6905]

Thanks for the detailed comparison! Was looking for that... nicely done 👍 so you own both bikes? If so, may I ask why? I could imagine you trading in one of them for, let’s say, a S1KRR or an R1?

[@hiimchad]

Hey there! Glad you enjoyed! 😁 I do currently own both bikes, but the RR is up for sale with a pending offer. When I was shopping for my first Tuono, I was looking for a Factory, but they are pretty rare in my area, and the RR was a better deal than the only Factory for sale by private party within 100 miles of me at the time. After I'd had the RR for about 7 months, in which time it had been to the track twice and the passenger seat had never really been used, this Factory came up for sale at a reasonable price and wasn't too far away from me, and I wanted to make sure I didn't miss out on it. So, I decided to make the purchase before listing the RR for sale. I have a Triumph Daytona 675R track bike, but when I'm ready to move up to a superbike for the track, it will likely be an RSV4. 🙂

[@myaccount6905]

@@hiimchad thanks for explaining... I was wondering ☺️... That would be a good choice (the RSV4) ☺️👍...

[@johnbayliss1098]

I have a 2016 incredible I would like to see the difference between both 2016 and 2017

[@hiimchad]

I'd love to make it, but I don't know anyone who has a 2016 I could borrow! 😂

[@RideLikeAChamp]

I don't seem to find track engine map on 2023 Tuono V4 non factory - only road , sports and user mode

[@hiimchad]

I'm not familiar with ride modes on the new Tuono. The info in this video only applies to the 2017-2020 Tuono V4s.

[@Motobikereviews]

Beautiful review i heard of lots of leaks is that correct!

[@hiimchad]

Thanks! Not in my experience. The Factory developed a very small oil weep out of the breather for the spark plugs, but it was fixed with a new o-ring when I had the valve service done a year and a half ago. That has been the only leak, and the RR never leaked while I had it 🙂

[@kev7118]

What sag numbers did you achieve on the RR ? And was the factory still on standard setup ?

[@hiimchad]

Unfortunately, I can't say. It was set up by Race Tech for the previous owner, who I happened to weigh the same as. The Factory was also set up for the previous owner, who weighed about 20lbs less than me, and I haven't had the opportunity to get it reset. I've been thinking about doing int myself, but finding the time has been challenging.

[@kev7118]

@@hiimchad do it yourself, its not hard . its a good way to learn stuff too.

[@hiimchad]

@@kev7118 I’ve watched Dave Moss’s videos for years and he actually set up my Daytona 675R track bike, so I know where to go for the knowledge, it’s just the time is more of an issue for me. I’ll take another look though! Thanks for the advice! 🙂

[@jerseyboycustoms]

What exhaust is on each? that Factory just sounds perfect!

[@hiimchad]

The RR has a Graves Carbon exhaust, and the Factory has the SC Project CR-T. The mic does not do the volume of either of these justice. Much louder in reality, especially the CR-T. Glad you like the sound! 😁

[@jojolol4823]

My question to you is if the RR is still just as capable on the road? I am looking for that confidence inspiring feeling while also being able to let the woman come along once in awhile. Not to mention be able to take whole day trips. I don't ride on tracks but then again don't want my buddies leaving me in the Twisties on their sport bikes either. Basically are these Sachs going to hold me where I need them too?

[@hiimchad]

The RR is perfectly capable both on the road and the track. If you set the Sachs up well, I think you will be able to get around the twisties with your buddies just fine. The Ohlins makes a difference when you’re starting to push the bike kind of hard, like trail braking far into corners and taking up most of the suspension. Unless you’re riding at a mid-fast Advanced group pace, I’m confident the Sachs will be plenty.

[@jojolol4823]

@@hiimchad Thanks I appreciate the response

[@hiimchad]

@@jojolol4823 my pleasure! Always happy to help. 🙂

[@thebadterrorists5323]

I wouldn't put a rear gunner on the back of the RR. Waste of an excellent bike. My RR has never had anyone on the seat with me. It's the bike and me.

[@johnbayliss1098]

Also if possible can you do a video on the 2016 versus the 2017 and for comparison I have a 2016 that's why thank you

[@hiimchad]

I've thought about it, but I'd want to find a 2016 I could borrow for a day or so to film with so I can really compare the two with firsthand experience. Maybe one day!

[@KutWrite]

You live in a beautiful area. Where is that? I'm guessing somewhere in Orange County, Ca.

[@hiimchad]

You'd be right! South OC.

[@crashtestdummy8191]

Hey, can you use the sozius of the factory on the RR?

[@hiimchad]

Hey! You can not. The tail fairings are different between the Factory and the RR, and the passenger seat on the RR is much larger than on the Factory. But, you can purchase second-hand Factory tailing fairings and put them on an RR, since the subframe, mounting locations, and tail light are the same. If you fit the Factory tail section, the Factory passenger seat will work. Hope that helps!

[@bilicki44]

does the Factory have a full exhaust or just a slip on?

[@hiimchad]

Just a slip on, SCProject CR-T

[@Infamous10110]

Great video! Keep it up!

[@hiimchad]

Thank you! I appreciate the support 🙂

[@Infamous10110]

@@hiimchad You bet. Do some videos with the 675R too.

[@hiimchad]

@@Infamous10110 That I can do! Anything in particular you'd like to see?

[@Infamous10110]

@@hiimchad Hmmm maybe an ownership review, compare it to the Tuono or similar classes or even the new Daytona, you could do some service/maintenance videos. You offer something different than the generic vloggers and that's what drew me in.

[@hiimchad]

@@Infamous10110 Thanks for the insight! Glad to know I'm doing things that help me stand out in a good way 😁 I really like your suggestions. I've never ridden a newer Daytona, and actually have a friend with one so I may be able to make that happen. The ownership review has been added to my list, as well as a comparison video. I should be able to shoot most of what I think I would need for that next time I'm at the track. Thank you for the recommendations! 🙂

[@SuperbikeDiscovery]

great video

[@hiimchad]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed. 🙂

[@JNasty1993]

Can you switch the shift linkage to go shift as is? Or do you need aftermarket parts?

[@hiimchad]

Hey Julius! To shift to GP pattern, you need an aftermarket shift lever or rear sets that can be set up for it. You can flip the shift arm to the other side of the spindle on the transmission, but this will cause the quickshifter and autoblipper to work incorrectly, as the push/pull actions that trigger the quickshift system would be the opposite of how they need to be to function. I installed a Woodcraft GP shift lever on my bike (www.sportbiketrackgear.com/woodcraft-aprilia-rsv4-tuono-17-20-shift-pedal-kit-for-oem-rearsets-gp-shift/) which is designed to work with the stock QS and blipper. Are you looking to convert your Tuono to GP shift?

[@JNasty1993]

@@hiimchad I currently own an mt10 that I swapped to gp shift for track and left it that way for 2 years. Figured if I get this bike I'd like to do the same thing

[@hiimchad]

@@JNasty1993 right on, GP shift is essential for me as well. First mod I’ve made to every sportbike I’ve purchased over the past 6 years. Does your MT10 have a quickshifter?

[@NaziHampster]

Can you turn off the auto blipper and the quickshifter. I prefer manual control.

[@hiimchad]

You can disable the blipper through the menu, but you can't turn off the quickshifter the same way. That said, my understanding is that the quickshifter is disabled when the clutch lever is pulled in via the clutch safety switch, so you could just use the clutch as you normally would. When I'm first riding the bike and it's still warming up, I'll usually short-shift around 4k RPM and use the clutch for 1st to 2nd, and it behaves no differently than any bike I've ridden that didn't have a quickshifter. You may be able to unplug it if you really don't want the option. 🙂 I will say, if you've never given these electronics a shot, I definitely would. I had a mindset just like yours for a long time. I never wanted a quickshifter or blipper, or even a slipper clutch, and got pretty good at riding without that assistance. It sounds like you're probably pretty experienced and are likely proficient at shifting on your own as well. I think that the assistance is really nice, and allows you to focus on the other aspects of riding, especially if you're trying to improve your other skills and get faster (braking points, lines, throttle control, etc). It also sounds pretty awesome while you're on the bike. Just some food for thought! 😁

[@ivangrbic2858]

Does anyone know whether it is possible to retrofit the TFT display to the 2015 model year?

[@hiimchad]

I recall seeing someone on the forums saying it was possible, but required the 2017+ wiring harness as well. In all honestly, if you want the dash, I would recommend selling your 2015 and upgrading to the 17+. There are a lot of other features that make it worth it too, like the autoblipper, cruise control, and cornering ABS. They also made some improvement to the engine for reliability. The dash and the harness are pricy on their own, so you'd probably net out to the same total spend by upgrading to the 17+ as you would retrofitting the dash, plus you get all the other goodies mentioned previously.

[@johnbayliss1098]

The factory is an incredible bike

[@hiimchad]

Indeed it is! 🙂

[@AntiPlatitude]

Is the gearing on the Tuono different from the RSV4?

[@hiimchad]

I believe it is a bit shorter. In addition to that, the Tuono doesn’t rev as high as the RSV4 (~2k rpm less)

[@dressing2877]

funny how the tuono factory has the same livery as the RSV4 RF but the rsv4 factory dont

[@hiimchad]

The RSV4 Factory and Tuono V4 Factory did have the same liveries in 2017 and 2018, but the RSV4s had some additional color in a few areas because of their larger belly pans, and the 2017 RSV4 had the beautiful tricolore underseat panels. Aside from that, the colors of the tanks and upper fairings were the same. 🙂

[@KROWARIZONA]

Nice review. Congrats.

[@hiimchad]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed 🙂 If I can ask, what was your favorite part of the video?

[@KROWARIZONA]

@@hiimchad actually there is no specific part. The content is good and the way you passed the infos is understandable to everyone. I just don’t like the camera POV like sideway of the helmet, but whatever 🤷‍♂️😅👍

[@hiimchad]

@@KROWARIZONA I appreciate the feedback! 🙂 When I recorded my first motovlog, I tried mounting the camera on the chin of my helmet and didn’t like that it obstructed my view of the dash. I also noticed that the side mount was how many motovloggers set up their cameras and liked the way it looked. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I do like watching other peoples’ videos that were recorded on the chin, definitely gives it that full first-person feel.

[@patriotarborist711]

I just purchased a 2021 Tuono Factory and get a lot of vibration in the throttle grip. Anyone else?

[@hiimchad]

I don’t have a 2021, but I haven’t noticed too much vibration in mine, except from my exhaust. 🙂 Maybe check to see if one of the bar ends came loose?

[@patriotarborist711]

@@hiimchad I will check that. Thanks

[@timcrawford7666]

What make are the bar end mirrors on the factory ?

[@hiimchad]

Hey Tim! These are the CRG Arrow bar end mirrors, mounted with RhinoMoto bar ends specifically for those mirrors. I purchased everything from AF1Racing.com. Hope that helps! Are you interested in adding those to your Tuono?

[@timcrawford7666]

@@hiimchad For sure,they totally transform the look of the front end.Are they practical too?

[@hiimchad]

@@timcrawford7666 Oh yes, sooo much better than the stock mirrors. You can barely see a thing with those. The Arrow bar ends are slightly convex so you get an excellent picture of what's behind you and in your blind spots.

[@nobbystyles4807]

ive no idea why aprilia made this platform so confusing.... im like, do i want the v4 factory? do i want a tuono? is a tuono better than the v4? but what about the 1100 v4?? is that better??? even the guy in my local dealership couldnt really make it any clearer for me

[@hiimchad]

Sorry to hear Aprilia's designations for the V4 bikes haven't struck a chord with you. Maybe I can help explain: - If the model name starts with "RS" it is a supersport/superbike/faired sport bike, e.g. RSV4, RS660. - If the model is Tuono, it's a "naked" sport bike with a higher handlebar and less bodywork, e.g. Tuono V4, Tuono 660, Tuono V4 1100 Factory The various Tuonos are based on their RS counterparts (e.g. the Tuono V4 is a more street-oriented variant of the RSV4), given their higher handlebar and more upright seating position as a result. The engines/transmissions are also designed with street use in mind, so the engines tend to make more torque/mid-range power and less up top, since they typically won't be used at high RPM constantly like their racetrack-oriented RS counterparts with full fairings and useful windscreens. The 1100 models, which are actually 1,077cc except for the new 2021 RSV4 with 1,099cc, just received that bump in engine displacement to improve power across the board without needing to sacrifice longevity. So, if more horsepower and torque is better to you, then yes, the 1100s are higher performing than their predecessors. The "1100" engine first became available in 2016 with the Tuono V4 1100 Factory. Before 2016, there was no Factory model for the Tuono V4. The Tuono V4 first became available in 2012 with a ~1000cc V4 engine derived from the RSV4 of that time. The "Factory" models are just like Ducati's "S" or "R" models, or an M3 compared to a 335i if you're familiar with BMW cars. The Factory models come with Ohlins suspension, front and rear, which are high-performance components designed to provide as much grip as possible on smooth road/track surfaces, compared to the "lower" trim RR models that have Sachs suspension designed more with street riding in mind. That said, the Sachs components will still work well on a racetrack from my experience, just not as well as the Ohlins. From 2016 on, there are only two trims of both the RSV4 and the Tuono V4: RR and Factory. In 2019, the RSV4 Factory received the engine displacement bump, but the base RSV4 RR did not until this year. Hope that's helpful! 🙂

[@nobbystyles4807]

@@hiimchad yeah thats pretty helpful mate cheers. it sounds like the tuono 1100 is the way for me since i do live by a track but i prefer street riding due to the cost of track days. thanks man!

[@hiimchad]

My pleasure! Glad I could help 🙂

[@GLOBUS_25RU]

👍👍👍

[@hiimchad]

Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed 😁 Was there anything in particular you liked about the video?

[@nobbystyles4807]

also why do people cover up their number plates in videos? its not as if you could do anything with that information

[@hiimchad]

You can in some states, and it's just my personal preference to remove that as an identifier on the road 😉

[@iamflukenuttapon5935]

rsv4 rf tuono?

[@hiimchad]

Tuono V4 Factory!

[@nunosousa1121]

Top

[@hiimchad]

Thank you! 🙌

[@mundanial]

😍😍😍😍😘

[@alfiethefeline3311]

to be honest tuono should have done both ohlins one with electronicly adjustable one is not for the racers. this way everyone should have been happy

[@hiimchad]

Shiny gold forks for everyone!

[@vxlgsi]

2017 RF best year

[@hiimchad]

Right? I just love that superpole graphic 😁 Do you own an Aprilia as well?

[@vxlgsi]

@@hiimchad yes.. looks.like your missing the red tail graphic?

[@hiimchad]

@@vxlgsi yes, I damaged the decal on the right side while removing the sticker that had the spark plug gap and other engine details. 😞 So, I decided to just peel it and the other one off as well. I ordered a replacement set from AF1 a couple months ago, but they were backordered so who knows when they’ll arrive. I kind of like the look of the silver though. I’ll put the decals back on when I get them, but not sure if they’ll stay on forever.

[@vxlgsi]

@@hiimchad does look ok without them 👍

[@gtrpimp76]

Dude! This is pure motorcycle porn! Awesome! My ? Does Aprilia or any aftermarket manufacturer produce a windscreen that’s either taller or in double bubble? I’ve been thinking of upgrading my daily road (occasional track) driver Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX for either a Tuono V4 or a Ninja H2SXSE. I have plans to eventually do a bucket cross country tour as well.

[@hiimchad]

Glad you enjoyed! Puig does make a double-bubble-like windscreen. It's not as tall as a typical super bike windscreen, but is a bit taller than the stock one.

[@N0t4v41l4ble]

The '15 and '16 have the same APRC as the '17.

[@N0t4v41l4ble]

I might be wrong, was cornering ABS introduced in 2017?

[@hiimchad]

Cornering ABS was introduced in 2017, enabled by a new-at-the-time Bosch IMU, though some prior Tuono's did have traditional ABS. 2017 also added a pit lane limiter and autoblip, or quickshift down, which earlier bikes did not have either. the 2017 also saw other improvements in software for TC and WC, with wheelie control also being adjustable while on the throttle. 2015/16 bikes require it to be closed. Cruise control was also new for 2017, though I'm not sure if that technically falls under the aPRC suite, or if it should be considered a feature on its own. So, while many of the same features are present (TC, WC, etc.), the 2017 model saw new aPRC features in addition to those, and improvements in the functionality of the preexisting features compared to predecessors. 🙂

[@ronhu6035]

Get a '21 and don't look back The Factory for 20k Fantastic buy.

[@hiimchad]

I still think the 17-20 bikes are a fantastic buy at secondhand prices. Have yet to ride a 2021, but it's definitely on my list. 🙂

[@andresantel2137]

Tuono Factory for me cause it has the Electronic Ohlins suspension suitable for everyday riding

[@hiimchad]

That's the only thing I think would make my bike better! Unfortunately, Aprilia didn't start using the semi-active Ohlins until the 2019 model year, so mine being a 2017 lacks it. Do you own a 2019/2020 Tuono?

[@andresantel2137]

@@hiimchad I've tested one before, and it's really comfortable to ride I didn't feel any difference aside from it being comfortable with the electronic Ohlins

[@MaximumProductions70]

Your roads are so empty! Are they always that deserted?

[@hiimchad]

Nope, I wish! Just at certain times of the day.

[@BoyFromMa]

What an ugly bike!

[@rainerholle6728]

Boring roads ...

[@hiimchad]

Sorry to hear you were disappointed, Ranier. I rode in an environment that I think would be similar to where many TV4 owners will ride their bikes. If I can ask, what would you have done differently?

[@GClary1]

@@hiimchad He wants you to make the run to Lake Elsinore. :)