Aptera Myths Debunked

[@tipoomaster]

Could we get some winter testing videos? Especially on three wheel traction. Not saying it won't work, but I'd love to see how it's tested!

[@CFloPhotography]

Winter is our 2nd summer in San Diego. I've never seen a car with winter tires.

[@adamswenson1093]

@@CFloPhotography Must be nice. They could let me test that -20 degree rating here in South Dakota, lol

[@humbughumbughumbug]

Yeah when the Prius had e-AWD available, videos of them driving through snow immediately popped up. I hope something similar happens with the AWD Aptera!!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

When they can get a vehicle to Aptera (Elaphe, who has a winter test track) , we will see winter test track videos, perhaps not until next Fall. I have a 2WD model on order and will use studded snow tires in Iowa. I expect that with traction control that can sense torque and adjust 32 times per wheel revolution, that it will be excellent and AWD will be better.

[@zidaryn]

Yea. I'd love to see some winter testing. For both the All and Front wheel configurations. Also, is it confirmed that it will have heated seats?

[@NeilBlanchard]

You've convinced me to go with the "full solar" package. I have had a rear view video mirror on out Bolt EV for years, and having the maximum solar gain is a very good thing.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

Personally, I'd still prefer a glass roof over a solar roof. I like a lot of light in the cabin.

[@NeilBlanchard]

@@Hans-gb4mv Good point. I think the space between the cells does let light through?

[@Hans-gb4mv]

@@NeilBlanchard Sono wanted to do that on the Sion but had to backtrack on that idea as it would not meet regulatory requirements over here in Europe.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@markplott4820 Mark claims to know better than the SEC and the two billion dollar VC funds who have invested in Aptera just during the last two months. He also posts claims about Aptera's technical design that are contrary to fact, verified by third party eye witnesses.

[@beachbeemer]

@@markplott4820 You've got to be joking.

[@alohapigeons9440]

If you some how flip, how do you get out? Unlike a traditional door and window, you would not be able to open the door because it opens upwards and even if you roll down or break the window to get out it seems the opening might be a bit narrow since it has a divider through the middle of the window. I wouldn’t think you could kick out the front windshield because the car is front heavy so it would probably be against the ground. Maybe the rear hatch might open enough but maybe not since it would be opening in the direction of the ground. Or could you make the divider in the window removable in such an emergency? Or maybe an emergency lever could be integrated that when pulled would disconnect the door from the car.

[@reneaceballo]

Good point

[@I_Am_Empyrean]

The car is light enough that your bodyweight will change the resting position of the vehicle. Worst case scenario if you're upside down you could shift your weight inside the car to get it resting on the windshield and open up the rear hatch. Though I do think an emergency release for the driver side door should be considered.

[@jasonwhitley8605]

even upside down, the door will still open wide enough to get you out

[@SteveBueche1027]

Since the doors open out this should not be a problem. Think of that Thanksgiving turkey when the wings fall down after cooking.

[@mjohnsimon1337]

I'd love to get an Aptera, but I'm worried about 2 things. My first minor concern is maintenance. Will this vehicle need to be hand-washed only? I'm not sure if it'd be safe for the vehicle to go through a car wash. My final concern is safety. How safe is this car in an accident? These vehicles, as mentioned in the video, are often categorized as an autocycle, which means they're exempt from auto safety testing standards. How will I know that this car won't electrocute me or any first responders who attempt to rescue me in the event of a crash. I mean, will I even survive a crash in the first place? Once this is answered, only then will I seriously consider an Aptera.

[@williamtaber7151]

We are told that Aptera is designed to exceed current safty standards for automobiles - even though as an autocycle, this is not required. Many videos exist explaining some of the design features employed to accomplish this goal.

[@inomad1313]

My understanding is that the passenger compartment is designed in the same way as Formula 1 race cars. They have a roll cage to protect the driver/passenger from all angles of impact. I suspect that when the Aptera comes to market, it will be the safest thing in the road.

[@bubblefoil]

@@inomad1313 It does not translate. Race cars are very tough to withstand high speed crashes, but this toughness means very rapid deceleration and huge forces on the passengers. Without tight, multi-point seat belts, it can be fatal. Moreover, I would be more worried about pedestrian safety. Just look at the uncovered suspension arms...

[@GeistView]

I'm looking forward to what is in store. I placed a 1,000$ down payment for one of the old Aptera before the company started to have problems. I was refunded with no issues. I'm waiting to see what has changed and what the future has in store. If things keep going, I might put down an order again.

[@inomad1313]

One of the major changes is that they have eliminated all of the old school auto industry advisors who were focused more on quick mass production than on making the best/most efficient vehicle possible. The fact that they refunded all of the invested money, like yours, and are back at it, tells me that they are serious about going to market with this vehicle in their own way.

[@skyeparker5822]

Wow Quincy is a great spokesperson for the company.

[@Rich1Rodriguez]

Nice Can’t wait for my 400 mile AWD version with enhanced stereo and driver assistance package. Please… Apple CarPlay…. Charge on!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Rich, you and me both! I will be showing mine off as much as I can after I pick it up and get back from a Death Valley camping trip to an area where I can send reports.

[@pb8797]

I have been trying to find a video about the locks/security could you do something on this please ?

[@charangohabsburg1]

Well, i never have seen these topics as myths but rather as reasonable questions. I'd like to add three more questions: 1.) is the right wheel cover also visible from the driver's perspective? 2.) if so, could you please show the driver's view on the right wheel cover? 3.) will there be right and left rear view cameras along the mirrors required by US law?

[@sprockkets]

Beta renders show possible reflective mirrors.

[@solosailorsv8065]

Mirrors are not required by DOT 'law' for Autocycles. Telsa MUST have mirrors, Aptera may have mirrors

[@sprockkets]

@@solosailorsv8065 they've been told actual mirrors are required, must have iirc 10 sq inches of area, or 20 sq inches. Is going to be 5x2 or 5x4

[@charangohabsburg1]

@@vic321344 Thanks! Yes, indeed at 1:17 we can not see the right wheel cover, although it could be hidden behind the right rear view screen. Maybe. Bur more likely not, because otherwise they would have shown it off in the video I guess.

[@GPhilipArnold]

Quincy, could you address the "pothole" myth. It is that one can't miss a pothole with a three wheeled vehicle; Straddle the pothole and hit it with the back wheel or hit it with one of the front wheels to have the back wheel miss it. The theory is that one can't miss potholes when driving an Aptera. Thanks.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Since there are almost 4 ft between a front wheel track and the center wheel, it would be a pretty large pothole that couldn't be straddled. I think that in practice this will become second nature for Aptera drivers.

[@danwat1234]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Seems like the middle wheel may be able to just take 'em no need to worry but we'll see. I gathered from a Transport Evolved channel Beta ride

[@Pickle_Riiiick]

If you absolutely have to hit one just hit it with the back wheel so it doesn’t mess up the front end alignment.

[@SteveBueche1027]

After getting use to the wheel spacing most will be avoided. Place the left front wheel to the left of the hole. The back should miss it unless it’s huge. Even then, slow down to avoid damage like any other vehicle or rim

[@anthonydyer3939]

I'd love to see this car make it to the UK market. With 1000 miles of range, I'd never have to accept expensive roadside charging ever again. As others have mentioned, visibility of the side wheel assemblies is important for the driver of the vehicle parked next to you - especially if your car is on the passenger side of their vehicle. Those could easily be in their blindspot and therefore be fouled by the other driver when driving out of a parking space. A solution would be to have something like a pop up flag / other indicator out of each wheel assembly when parked.

[@dangr3957]

The solution; if you have a fancy car try to not go to a public carpark but if you have to use one try to use the less busy places and if it’s too many car parking, park beside cars which reversed in. Definitely you must have a BlackVue dash cam with a parking mode enabled, so if worst case scenario at least find them to pay you damages.

[@mindlessmrawesome]

One thing that I'm incredibly curious about is the acoustics of the car. With the heavily reduced wind noise and there only being 3 sources of road noise (wheels) with two of them out on isolated pylons, the Aptera could end up being one of the best cars on the road for listening to music in. Are you guys testing the acoustics of the cabin for pockets of resonance and tuning the speakers accordingly? And what will the advanced audio package offer? (I would personally enjoy it if the advanced audio package added in a physical volume knob for cranking the volume on beat drops)

[@n.brucenelson5920]

One of the early investors in Aptera is an Audio guy and there is considerable original research going into a unique multi speaker system that is also lighter in weight than what is available from OEM suppliers at present. I haven't had a chance to hear the results yet, but I have high hopes and I know they are taking it seriously. (I own Magnepans for my home system and take my sound seriously.

[@ТуркаганАзиахан]

глухому хорошо. люди больше мусорят звуком и шумом миллионов двс, чем одна полезная машина.

[@arevee9429]

Listen to some of their test drive videos. The car sounded quite rattly. Hopefully, that will be worked out in the production models.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@arevee9429 I got a ride in Luna - the silver alpha prototype on public roads and it was rattly. It was also very stiffly tuned. This was great for handling, but would have only been acceptable for sports car enthusiasts. Roush redesigned the suspension, and the wheel motor wheel pants mounts have also been changed along with the wheel pants. There is now a front sway bar and the suspension is more compliant. The rear has a dual link instead of a single swing arm. I think it will be a much quieter and softer ride in the betas and my guess is that it still corners better with these changes. I think the increased compliance will make the suspension much quieter. Final tire choice will also have a major influence on road noise.

[@johnbuscher]

@@vic321344 You can’t feel when a car is stiff or loses traction as a passenger? I can, at least in something like a Mustang.

[@Shabobidhuffy]

This seems good for a single person , with no access to electricity. The money saved in electricity is $1-3 bucks a day (assuming full charge in the sun , 2-4 kwhrs worth). Also isn’t it generally not advisable to park in Direct sunlight as this would cook the interior and damage the paint and tires overtime (hence why people park in garage/ cover) .

[@dangr3957]

Yeah many people don’t know about this. I have a driveway with no shade and I cover my black Model S on every day during summer. I would be sad to see the screen got damaged in an Aptera while roasting it on the sun!😅 perhaps leaving the windows tiny bit open for some airflow and cover the screen with a white cloth could help on those hot days.

[@CFloPhotography]

As much as I like the Aptera I can't deny that it is a very wide vehicle, about 10 inches wider than the current Prius. Not that it matters to me because I've driven school buses, but an unfamiliar driver can expect to see a few wheel curb rashes if they are not mindful. A full-size school bus is 93 inches wide, the Aptera 88". yes, you can fit a small school bus into two parking spaces easily but only because of the box shape and mirrors. The video isn't lying about the Aptera being parkable, although those fenders will be parking issues sometimes. Definitely be careful with parallel parking. Won't be a problem with our roads because everything is wide. More importantly, than width is the turning circle which i'd suspect should be good given the short wheelbase and the generous amount of Toe range that the wheels seem to achieve.

[@rashidclark]

Indeed, the video of Jay Leno driving it around town showed him constantly veering out of his lane. But a new owner will eventually adapt. I wonder about other drivers clipping the side wheels, particularly if it's on street parking. Although personally I'd try to avoid street parking whenever possible, since cars that stand out probably are more likely to be targets by vandals and thieves. Re parking: I'm curious what parking-assist features will be available. An overhead view on the screen like what the Ioniq-5 does would be perfect.

[@ausieideasman4182]

I measured the turn at 23 FEET at Chuckwalla.

[@jonj9149]

I calculated the Aptera Beta turn radius at 20.17 ft (6.15 m) [or less] based upon the following video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaKYmZ2Jo79gbs0 Consider that the smaller (new) circle diameter is 5.5x (my measurement on the computer screen) the distance between the outer edges of the Aptera tires (88" which should be an overestimate as there are no wheel pants, hence the [or less] above). Since the radius is 1/2 the diameter: 88" x 5.5 / 2 / 12 (inches/foot) = 20.17 ft. Per reference.com: small city cars, such as Smart cars, can have a turning radii as small as 23.9 feet. The same site then talks about 2015/2016 sedans "in the middle range...of the list" having a turning radius of 37.4 feet.

[@CyberOwners]

Don’t forget 88” is the wheels. The cabin is narrower, so all but the wheels will have more room than the average car on the sides. The beta also has a much smaller turning radius.

[@jonj9149]

@@aussieideasman8498 First you say 30m, then 20m then edit your comments again below in another comment thread about turn radius. Above you say 33m, then 23 feet. You can't even agree with yourself. Should I be surprised that when challenged, your first inclination is to accuse someone else of manipulation/lying? 😆

[@LittleGreen_Dude]

I would really like to see how this handles the Winter. I live in Canada and we get a LOT of snow.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

I live in Iowa and am eager to find out the same thing.

[@dankusmemus2350]

keep in mind it's also significantly lighter than most passenger cars so as long as the tyres aren't really thin it might do fine or better.

[@dankusmemus2350]

@@vic321344 I won't have to apply as much traction because it won't sink in as much in the first place

[@stephenadams9211]

Off to great start! Can't wait for the next episode! For the next myth to debunk, I would like to see Aptera show tall people getting in and out.... How windy weather affects vehicle stability..... lastly please show how much Aptera can keep you warm in a snow storm and or AWD driving/drift!

[@Allenw154]

How is the solar panel temperature maintained while parked? I believe most roof mount panels require air gaps for proper cooling.

[@Aves_1]

Id love to get the full camera mirror system, but many US states still require actual rear view mirrors sadly

[@jonj9149]

The beta renders evidence rear view mirrors. They have not been forgotten.

[@Carl_in_AZ]

Polaris slingshot, CanAm Spyder and Electromechanica Solo do not have rearview mirrors and they are listed as either a motorcycle or autocycle in every state. Did you mean side view mirrors? Presently one side view mirror is required in every state for a motorcycle and maybe even two in some.

[@Aves_1]

@@Carl_in_AZ yeah, side mirrors is what I mean

[@ElCerdoBlanco]

@@vic321344 you don't need actual mirrors. Cameras are allowed in the EU too (ECE-R46), e.g. the Audi e-tron can have them.

[@ElCerdoBlanco]

@@vic321344 I have not tested them. Some say that you are never dazzled at night, because the other cars' headlights are reduced in the display. If that is true, I would be okay with some ghosting.

[@user-mn9wq5km4l]

could we have a video about the best locations for the aptera, how might aptera fair in areas with lower sun number scores? would smog, rainy, and/ or cloudy weather be cause for significant concern? love seeing Aptera's progress! makes me hopeful for the future

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Check the solar insolation charts for your area that are published by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 The local solar insulation charts are developed from real data. If you were paying attention you would know that the solar design is still changing and that the betas have at least 13% more solar cell area than the alphas. When the validation tests of the betas are complete everyone will know more. I will be able to provide real world tests of the Aptera myself soon, when I am driving my own Paradigm edition. You have proven already that you don't know how to do your own research and would be unlikely to know what the meaning of data you already have available to you, based on your previous FUD.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344More FUD. It would be interesting to know why? I am glad for you driving stats for Aptera channels.

[@1978rayking]

I wonwder about replacing the converters and power controllers, they get hot and dusty, that's the main power failures when motors are hot causing voltage resistance. Temperature sensors and data of power components make finding any cause of component or connectivity issues a easy fix, when or should a issue arise.

[@FormulaManuel]

The split side windows are my biggest concern in terms of visibility. A pillars are already a problem that, somehow, no manufacturer solves (just put screens there), but creating a second *huge* blind spot is just terrifying

[@jksjks555]

Estos americanos preocupados de si entra su big coffee.. haha amazing Aptera love you from Spain

[@RichardServello]

I've seen other companies attempt digital rear view cameras and got shot down due to outdated laws in the US that require mirrors...how will this affect the vehicle?

[@richpate9436]

My guess is that until laws are updated, Aptera will probably have both like most new cars today -- minimal side mirrors and a rear view camera.

[@bfarm44]

I want a center joystick control no steering wheel and make it sound like a Jetsons car. Love it!

[@markbeiser]

I didn't realize how wide the thing is, 88" is almost 5" wider than the KUV body on on my Ford Transit 250 HVAC service van, and is 8" wider than an F150! I have a pre-order, and an am investor, but honestly the width will likely be a complete deal killer for many people, myself included.

[@ApteraMotors]

Hi Mark! The reason for this is because of aerodynamics, so Aptera can be as efficient as it is! The front-wheel covers need space from the body so they don't compress the air between them and the body; this reduces our drag by over 10% alone! It also comes with the added benefit of being more stable.

[@markbeiser]

@@ApteraMotors Will there at least be some sort of light on the wheel pods, that is visible from the rear, that can be turned on when it is parked? Maybe even just high visibility reflectors? With their overall width, and as far as they stick out past the body, street parking could get interesting...

[@johntrotter8678]

Nice. Quick. Direct. Reliable information. Candidate for next time: rearview "mirrors". Like many, I think using cameras all around will be the best, especially if the side view cameras feed screens on the side, where our normal muscle memory cause us to look. (Adding the "minimum compliance mirrors" should be fought for ALL manufacturers, to reduce energy use, a country and administration goal.)

[@fanfare100]

plus these side cameras will do a great job of eliminating the blind spots most vehicles have.

[@fanfare100]

@@markplott4820 Doing my own research is precisely what I've been doing ever since Apter got back together again. Have you read their SEC filings,? How many times have you visited their sites, spoken to their employees, investors, consultants? Have you found out what the demand is for their types of vehicles? What the waiting list is like? Who Sandy Munro is and what his role is and how much of his own money he's ponying up to back his conviction? Yes, I do agree, do your own research. But don't just talk about it with baseless inurendos and FUD,, but rather, YES do your own research then get back when you have an actual basis for your FUD. lol

[@fanfare100]

@@markplott4820 Dare I expect you to elaborate? lmao

[@peterforint2663]

The Aptera SEV is the ultimate commuter and grand tourer in one. Can't wait!

[@limwang6241]

I think it will make a great every day commuter or for couples. Add the pet pack which has a barrier behind the seats if you are worried about projectiles in an accident.

[@limwang6241]

@@vic321344 Hmmmm. I do sound kind of stupid when you put it like that. 🤦‍♂️ By pet pack i meant the barrier that is an add-on with the Aptera for stopping stuff flying forwards from the cargo area into the seating area.

[@limwang6241]

@@vic321344 😂 I want a sixpack sentinel with my Aptera please.

[@winstonwalker3227]

What are the interior power connections? Is there a 110? USB A&C?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Yes to all.

[@peterlongland6862]

I've ordered an aptera but I'm in Australia where our laws are different. Maybe in a debunk session you might like to look at international issues as well.

[@moestrei]

Same here, in Australia there is no class Autocycle and to my knowledge the Aptera would be classed as a car. There are importers for Morgan 3 wheelers replicas and they managed to get compliance, so the Aptera should manage the same. Living inland I want to know if the nose survives a Kangaroo hit ?

[@peterlongland6862]

@@moestrei yes a set of bull bars would be what apters is about I'd think

[@moestrei]

@@vic321344 I only remember that everything with a steering wheel instead of a handle bar is classified as a car. I don't think you have to wear a helmet, they had seat belts and a rollover bar.

[@peterlongland6862]

@@markplott4820 I don't remember asking for your opinion frankly. Seriously a car that's underdevelopment that isn't street legal?? What planet are you from. NO CAR BEING DEVELOPED IS STREET LEGAL YOU IDIOT. whether it's a Ford, Toyota or general motors. Everyone who has decided to take the risk on aptera knows its a risk. I support what this company is trying to achieve, that's my choice! You can choose not to, that little boy is what we call freedom of choice. Unless you have something constructive to say, you can leave.

[@RajGiandeep]

Good series to keep going. Can you see both wheel covers from the drivers seat or just the left?

[@RealBenAnderson]

I am looking out of the windows of my car right now and I can see zero of the four wheels, so I don’t know why this is such a concern.

[@alanwetherall]

Just watched the Aptera storybook, absolutly brillaint marketing , well done all.

[@MrGuyTsurStiGy]

I reallllllly like the way this company handles PR

[@rolfthewolf42]

The biggest comment I see from people is that it will be unsafe. Looking forward to seeing crash test results.

[@CFloPhotography]

the cabin is a monocoque shell like you see in hypercars or racecars. Whatever you drive right now is more likely to crumble

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@CFloPhotography Aptera has different characteristics engineered into different sections of the vehicle. There are front and rear crumple zones to absorb energy in an accident, as well as air bags. There is also an F! style passenger safety cage to prevent collapse of parts into the passenger occupied space. They have been doing virtual crash testing since designing started and once they have production intent vehicles they will have the results from real FMVSS crash tests and we will know the rating.

[@mindlessmrawesome]

@@vic321344 That's true. I'm curious to see what the crash tests look like as well, because while composite materials can easily be made "stronger" than steel, they are also significantly less ductile, resulting in it snapping under high levels of stress. They are also incredibly difficult to model in a computer simulations. All in all, the crash tests will be very revealing.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 Why do you think that Tesla has never revealed such information for any of their vehicles before they were ready for delivery or any other manufacturer for that matter? None of them did. Your comment is the one that comes from fantasy land, as do most of them. You have been asked why this is, which you continue to ignore. I have revealed my interests, which include being chosen as a volunteer brand ambassador, making a small investment and placing an early preorder. I have done due diligence - something that you have not, nor revealed your biases.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@aussieideasman8498 Your comment only proves that you can't read, or if you can, comprehend it. Your "also" is talking about a different system, isn't it? Aptera is obviously not using the same design because it wouldn't work in a 2 passenger vehicle - but they are using Kevlar and carbon fiber and similar engineering for the same purpose, which is why they say F1 style. Debunk? Perhaps you need more bunk time yourself to stop having your sleepless fantasies.

[@DxBlack]

Yeah, that last one was a cop-out: most drinks in drive-thru's don't have a hard, empty cup with a locked top...you'll spill your sprite turning it sideways through that window for sure.

[@seeyouontheriver]

Still trying to figure out if I can fit my whitewater kayak inside. It would be great if you could provide some dimensioned drawings of the interior.

[@shinyy187]

I actually experimented with this using the Aptera’s dimensions. It depends on the length of your kayak of course, but I concluded that you could fit an average-sized one seater kayak in the back with about a foot hanging off the back. Again, depends on the length of your kayak.

[@seeyouontheriver]

@@shinyy187 My whitewater boat is about 7 feet long, I have scaled photos of the Aptera and kayak and it appears that it will possibly fit entirely inside with the nose up between the seats.

[@konzeptzwei]

Not fitting overly sized 5L coffee cups really a first world problem.

[@konzeptzwei]

@@vic321344 that comment does not make any sense. could you please elaborate?

[@DHT2023]

Could we get the auto doors and trunk ?:) I’m order for 2. Can’t wait .

[@isferfun3909]

Great info! Could you elaborate a bit more on how the heating and cooling work as in Texas weather can turn drastically cold in February and very hot in summer. Thanks.

[@zidaryn]

Agreed. From Canada, and curious about some of the same stuff. - Someone replied to one of my questions about heated seats saying that they were trying to do heated and cooled seats with peltier devices, but there might be manufacturering issues.

[@isferfun3909]

@@zidaryn I got no answer from Aptera yet. Still waiting for their response.

[@SteveBueche1027]

The only thing it won’t have is cooled seats. The weight and cost is prohibitive. Besides it’s easier to cool the body rather than the seat.

[@maddeusdoggeus1]

Any headway in getting Aptera qualified for the Federal Tax Credit? Thank you.

[@CyberOwners]

If the new tax credit ever gets passed it would be included but because it’s bundled in the Build Back Better bill which will probably never see the light of day especially with other things going on, it would have to be reintroduced separately. In other words it’s possible but don’t count on it.

[@MichaelLindahl]

Which states do require a helmet?

[@fanfare100]

plus these side cameras will do a great job of eliminating the blind spots most vehicles have.

[@plan0go]

ebike space behind? possible too put bike into?

[@ApteraMotors]

Hi! You can refer to our most recent video regarding our cargo space here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGTNh3ennrGMhdU where we loaded up a bike and even an electric scooter 👀

[@plan0go]

@@ApteraMotors that's really cooool. Thanks!!!

[@Alek88vez]

is there an estimated date for test drives?

[@TheViiper250]

Comment peut-on investir dans Aptera ? Acheter des actions ?

[@thomascorbett2936]

This is a very different kind a machine, so some things are going to be very different than the average car, but life is about learning new things and adapting .

[@solosailorsv8065]

My concern is that Aptera will spend too much of their company resources, just in Customer Education, thus cutting into profits and the health of the brand. As a "different kind of machine", I don't think the first models should be sold to the general public, but to competent technical people who understand the technologies and can give meaningful, cooperative feedback. Yeah, that would limit sales WAY too much for the Marketing Department, fer sure

[@1978rayking]

Need a trunk or hood inside AC outlet or two for micro fridge tools and things. I'm a ex mechanic so I would be willing to take online classes or something to be certified a basic repair mobile guy in my area for Aptera.

[@williamclark6466]

What a great idea and video to help people understand how truly awesome Aptera vehicles are. Nice! Thank you for putting this together.

[@theunknownunknowns256]

You didn't need to convince me but good to know. When can I get one in New Zealand. If you're selling in NZ we'll know you are serious. I will never reserve, just want to go to a store (or delivered)pay and drive away. Full solar camper of course.

[@cheeseheadsportscards]

Looking seriously at this for an eye catching company car. I keep seeing videos with people laying down in the back or camping. Would a 6' table fit in the back? That'd be great for a trade show. Would love to see a .PSD template file for decal layout purposes too!

[@Karmakameleeon]

so excited for the car to eventually arrive. I'm curious-- how large of a person do you think could sleep comfortably in the trunk without the camping tent deployed?

[@thomascorbett2936]

The rear storage space is 7 feet in length so 2 people should be fine .

[@SirBapkins]

Guys, these gas prices... Can has Aptera tomorrow plzzz? 🙏

[@kenmcclow8963]

The only reservation I have is about cargo and if I will be able to fit a folding recumbent trike in there, especially if the hatch is still glass under the solar panels. I have flirted with the idea of asking to come down and put it in one of the prototypes to put that to rest. Everything else I might carry would definitely fit

[@limwang6241]

The plan for production is that there will be no glass under the rear hatch solar panels.

[@kenmcclow8963]

@@limwang6241 I like this news. I think glass would be extra weight and would be redundant with the side cameras, or a rear camera

[@limwang6241]

@@vic321344 All fine my friend. Have a fantastic day!!!!!

[@markbeiser]

Your other reservation should be that the width at the wheel pods is over 8" wider than the body of an F-150...

[@efficientliving6430]

Can't wait for the Aptera. Made a aerodynamic comparison video and of course, the Aptera made it into it!

[@mrnobody.4069]

What a cool car. I wonder how good security will be all you do the Tesla route and have your phone be the key or have to enter the password to drive the car or will you take your own route.

[@arthurcooper3258]

Love the video. Thanks! Appreciated the storage comparison to Honda Accord and Prius. Are the wheel covers easily removed for driving without them?

[@ApteraMotors]

Yes, you will be able to remove the wheel covers. Remember, you will lose some aerodynamics!

[@arthurcooper3258]

@@ApteraMotors Thanks! I'm totally okay with that!

[@rashidclark]

@@ApteraMotors Thank you the reply. This will be useful when attaching snow chains. A related question: Can the rear tire be exposed? Seems like this would be necessary if replacing a flat tire in the rear.

[@arthurcooper3258]

@@ApteraMotors Any data on how much loss without wheel covers?

[@RealBenAnderson]

@@aussieideasman8498 the weight of an Aptera is also between all three wheels.

[@PC-vq5ud]

I am a place holder. Also for an Elio. I hope Aptera gets deliveries going in the US faster than they are saying now. China will have cheaper 4-5 passenger cars in the US by then.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

It's not about price in this case, but efficiency. If I wanted cheap purchase cost, I wouldn't be driving an EV

[@beachbeemer]

Are you going to buy a car from china? I'd rather ride a bicycle. The cars from china will probably have doors made from cheap sheetrock.

[@RealBenAnderson]

Great series! You should address the stability concerns as well. Everyone I tell about Aptera says they think it will flip over because it only has three wheels. It would be awesome to have a clip to send them to explain why that’s not true.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

There are already videos of the beta vehicles performing on a test track. I have ridden in the Luna alpha prototype and it feels stable and planted at speed in the corners.

[@OJesusX3]

That just means that it's smarter and more enhanced. 😊🌎☀️

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 No one is "deceiving physics" And your 'quite bad" begins to look quite good, compared to most true cars on the road. I will get the popcorn while you explain the "Inherent instabilities" of an 88" front track and an 88" wheel base.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 "They" if you mean the founders, didn't discard it. Aptera was a part of Idealab. Idealab decided to appoint a CEO from Detroit with lots of production experience once the design was ready for production. This Detroit guy decided he wanted to built a conventional vehicle instead of what he was hired for. Based on his Detroit cred, he was able to talk Google, a major investor, into getting rid of the founders in a board coup. He could not get more backing for his vision and after the betrayal of his deposit holders, he returned the deposits and liquidated the company in 2011. The Aptera founders wasted no time and went on to form other successful businesses, including founding and leading a lithium battery company through IPO.

[@danwat1234]

Could we get a list of states currently that either require a helmet and/or a moto license? I realize laws change but would be nice to see where it's at right now

[@lampiditesla]

Any news about regulation in Europe? The current model is too wide and long to be a three wheeler...

[@famfloro]

I saw the video expecting a clarification for my main concern (UV resistance), but it wasn't mentioned. This car is designed to be charged by the sun, so it will spend most of its lifetime taking direct UV rays. How will the composite materials tolerate 10 years of direct sunlight compared to a traditional metallic made car? How long will be the warranty for sunlight UV degradation, and what will be the criteria for damaged panel replacement? On similar topic, what about the glue used to stick the solar cells. What is my resource if they start to fall off? Finally, for a car that will live outdoors, heat kills water stripping seals (I have seen it - a leaking car is not fun). Is there a warranty or maintenance schedule?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

If UV is a concern, periodic application of 303 UV protectant can go a long way. It has been proven on marine craft that live their lives out in the sun in tropical areas.

[@famfloro]

@@n.brucenelson5920 I'm not an expert in the topic, but as far as I know resin-based composites degrade easily when exposed to UV rays. My question wasn't about how to prevent that as a consumer. I wanted to know what innovative sun-resistant materials they were using for this car, that is designed for a lifetime under the sun.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@famfloro I am not an Aptera employee. I do know from my own professional work that such materials exist, but I don't know at this point what solution they will adopt. 3M just now is having to deal with the sudden failure of one of their products that has been marketed for years as UV resistant. Engineers are still learning, and the target moves as more knowledge is acquired. Aptera has been quite open and we may find out more once decisions are made after the validation tests are completed.

[@famfloro]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Even if a wrap is needed to protect the resin, that is something that I would like to know. Assuming that the wrap offers some type of protection.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@famfloro A wrap is what was originally planned. 3M offers factory warranties against UV damage. We do know that they are now looking at other options too. Some of these decisions may need to be considered with several other factors. We do know that they were planning to use UV curing to produce the composite panels. There are a few other choices and this could all be interrelated I think that most of this will be resolved by the time production starts,, but I also think Aptera will be using the Kaizen concept of continuous improvement.

[@wheee64]

Can you specify which states have motorcycle requirements like helmets or special licenses? All the marketing videos just say not required in most states

[@n.brucenelson5920]

The number has been going down rapidly, and is changing so fast that specifying would be quickly out of date. At most there are three left with special requirements at present, and by the time Aptera is shipping, Alaska may be the only state left.

[@nthused]

Thank you for creating this video! Answers a lot of silly questions…but questions nonetheless that people have.

[@brianscott9749]

This vehicle can’t come to market soon enough!! Gas prices are going to go through the roof!

[@Deacon_Ix]

Desperately waiting for this in the UK!

[@alistairbalistair9596]

I love you guys!

[@jeffprofessional123]

Alrighty, I am what you would consider an enthusiast when it comes to cars. I like capable vehicles that are fun to drive. How does this vehicle stack up to something like a Civic Type R which is another vehicle I have been debating for some time.

[@zidaryn]

Maybe their "Track day" vid might help with that. I don't know.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Performance of the AWD version is considerably faster 0-60. and 2WD will be close. If you only need to carry 2 people, it will likely be a less expensive choice and much cheaper to own. I had a ride in an alpha prototype, and it was thrilling in the twisties.

[@jamesengland7461]

I wonder if you could make a video speaking more about that width, which is quite substantial. I looked it up, and it's 11 inches wider than the Polaris Slingshot, a 2 seat three wheeler of similar weight. What is the engineering thought process behind the width you've chosen?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

James, the primary reason was that since there is less air compression between the wheels and the body, they gain more than 10 % in aerodynamic performance, Additional stability is a secondary benefit.

[@udishomer5852]

Yes, its 20 inches wider than my current car (Kia Stonic). It would be tough to park.

[@Portageediggah]

In case of accidents including " fender benders" how easy will it be and cost for body repairs. Will I have to send the car back for repairs.

[@Werevertumoto]

It doesn't look like it could carry a 8'+ longboard :(, is there any way you could fit a longboard inside? maybe a little hatch in the back so oversized long items could stick out? or the front seats fully reclining out of the way? sadly I can't handle a shortboard like that haha

[@truman4956]

So it is an auto cycle. Does that mean it does not have to meet the same crash/safety requirements as cars?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Technically, yes. However it is designed to excel on the same tests, and will be voluntarily tested by a third party and the results will be published.

[@Soothsayer210]

being a Canadian, because of the low wheel covers (i understand that it reduce the drag), doesn't that increase the possibility of this getting stuck in the snow?

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

Winter prep package comes with 2 part covers you can remove the lower 6 inch

[@ApteraMotors]

We would recommend our off-road package as the wheel pants will be raised!

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

@@ApteraMotors The skirt should be in 2 section so that we can remove a section. That way you dont need 2 set of molds for the 2 different package. Unless you want to raise the entire vehicule instead.

[@kevinim300]

Thanks for the direct line too some feedback and updates. 🙂 love the last word.

[@edd2184]

The drink or drive-thru order couldn't fit I would love to just open the butterfly door So I wouldn't mind it at all 🤣

[@Martin-hq1if]

Hi Quincy, how does the aptera behave in an underground parking garage? How far do the wingdoors open, is there no automatic limit like the Tesla Model x with the wingdoors with a proximity sensor?

[@41levergun]

How much winter driving in the midwest could this handle? Gavel roads?

[@ApteraMotors]

Hi there! Thanks for your comment. We are designing this vehicle specifically to perform beautifully in various climates and we will be doing more winter testing this year. With all-wheel-drive and vectorized torque control, Aptera handles snow, ice, and gravel very well.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

I live in Iowa on a gravel road. I am planning to take delivery of an early Paradigm edition and will be reporting back on my inevitable experience in snow, probably on the way back to Iowa from delivery in California.

[@41levergun]

@@n.brucenelson5920 please keep me updated I also live in iowa and would like one?

[@maddeusdoggeus1]

Thanks for the info Guys.

[@darthmaul216]

@@aussieideasman8498 you think that infinite energy is possible, nuf said

[@grahamleadbeatter5981]

What I would like to know is just how good is Aptera's air conditioning. I've bought cars with advertised air conditioning that blow cool, but not COLD air. So how good is it and how much energy does it chew on a 50 mile journey.

[@zidaryn]

Couple questions: 1. Will Aptera have heated seats? Edit: Yes, They are trying to do heated a cooled seats with peltier devices. 2. What type of heating system will it use? (Resistive vs heat pump) I'm fine with either, but stuff to know. 3. How does it handle winter/icy/slick conditions with All Wheel and Front Wheel configurations? Love from Canada.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

2. A heat pump is planned, but due to supply chain delays the first vehicles will ship with resistive heat. 3. I live in Iowa and will experience it with 2WD. The ABS/Traction control is fantastic. AWD will be better. I plan to use studded snow tires and will write about it when the time comes. There will also be videos from a winter weather test track next season.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 You forget that I have had a brisk ride in a prototype, I can assure you that it exists. You are full of FUD.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 If you had done even a little research, you would know that Aptera is using Elaphe wheel motors and that these functions are a standard feature of them

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 More FUD. Aptera has disc brakes designed in, outboard of the motors, exactly as required. What is not allowed is brake by wire alone. ABS is not only allowed, but it is included and used by many manufacturers.. That is what Lordstown Motors is doing with their pickup trucks as well. Aptera has numerous sensors, including inertial ones.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 More FUD. straight from the Aptera FAQ: "We have torque control on all wheels along with ABS. This will give us great stability control and tuneability not seen on any ICE vehicles."

[@DrChrisBiomed]

Minimum parking lot size in Sweden is 230 cm or 90.55 inches. It'll be a tight fite

[@tmay13b]

Winter driving, when will it get mass produced, will it go through dealerships or direct sales only. If I order one how long is the wait and is there a list so I know when my order is coming up, will it have all wheel drive for winter

[@n.brucenelson5920]

They are on track to start production in December, but there will be a slow ramp up in volume next year. My guess is that the number of preorders will explode once these are on the roads, so it is difficult to predict. The present preorder list is well over 26,000 vehicles and increasing quickly. AWD can be ordered. I live in Iowa and think that with studded snow tires, even 2WD will be fine. I will report on my experience when I can.

[@peterlongland6862]

Aptera is a motorcycle applies in the usa. I'm in Queensland Australia and our jurisdiction do not have an autocycle class. I'm very sure it will be classed as a car not a bike. Can aptera please inform overseas customers about progress of registration in our areas instead of only talking USA only!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Aptera has holomigation experts working in various countries and is planning local factories. I don't think you will see them pull the same stunt Tesla did with the Cybertruck.

[@lilDouchey]

Yeah but when can I get one??

[@ratking1330]

Hey, about a year ago now I had asked about a sun screen as I live in Arizona, where it regularly can hit high 200s inside vehicles during the summer and was wondering if there was any development as to that. I understand solar panels are placed on the dash board and was interested if there was a way to maintain charging but still keep the vehicle cool during the summer.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

The foam filled composite body has a much higher r value than most vehicles and both heat gain and loss to ambient conditions will be much slower and use less energy to counter.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 Of course it does. The heat blocked by the body does a great deal, as do the window treatments that it will come with.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 You might not make such a fool of yourself if you had some google-fu and looked for my name along with "insulation" You will find that my name comes up both in thermal and acoustic insulation. I designed and helped build the thermal insulation for the samples freezer that flies on the ISS under subcontract to the Glacier Project from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. I have also done projects for the Keck and other telescopes, Lawrence Livermore National Lab, the Stanford linear accelerator and other high tech thermal projects. More to the point, I have discussed the thermal design with Aptera, and they know what they are doing. Even someone like you should be able to figure out that a foam core body provides more insulation than thin sheet metal.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 once again, getting it wrong.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 You have certainly proven yourself to be the expert on hot air.

[@loicrion2370]

Hi, When would you be able to sell an aptera in France ?

[@davelocktalk]

Will there be a cargo net to stop all the luggage coming through to the driver and passenger if you break hard?

[@limwang6241]

@@vic321344 Are the seats hardened against cargo impact?

[@davelocktalk]

@@vic321344 special if they have a surfboard in the back 😆 🤣

[@limwang6241]

@@vic321344 sounds like it needs a standard metal mesh cargo barrier if that is what is needed.

[@ka24detpower]

It has really good visibility :)

[@davelevj]

At 1:16, they show the view from the inside... it looks like you can only see the left wheel cover, do I have that right?

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Great video. Great job Quincy!

[@washadog]

I am going to get one. Grey color. No Gas and no Emission. Clean Air!

[@Kev4Kev]

And what about the states that have special circumstances with motorcycles? What about parallel parking on a street ? What about groceries in bag last and not just places inside of a space with paper towels taking up most of the room? What stops stuff sliding all around the storage portion and falling through to the driver or passengers area. Yes a drink can fit through the window but what about the typical bag from a fast food place using McDonalds size bag as the average? None of the parts mentioned answers the full question and just skips around them providing vague answers

[@localsurfas]

early next year when gas is $11.00 per gallon this car will be a godsend!

[@abrahambensaad505]

and how about driving on mountainous roads? how competent is for climbing steep roads?

[@dog-thebackwardgod]

I'm far more concern with side vision bring blocked by that side window. It looks to me like it would be rt across my fiend of vision when trying to see to tha side, especially peripherally.

[@kevinbleau3846]

Thanks, Quincy!

[@TruthSeeker9038]

The reason I want this car is because I’ll never have to pay for gas again, and with full solar panels I’ll probably never have to charge it again. Looking at how the oil industry is failing currently, while at the same time our electric grid is being strained, this is vitally important that I can stay on the road regardless of how our power grid and oil is. Also, it looks like it’s from Star Wars so that’s fucking cool lol

[@PeaceChanel]

Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste and Thank You for All your efforts to support this great cause 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮ ❤

[@mv6113]

i want one soo bad. when are they available in europe.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

Overseas deliveries are not expected to start before 2024

[@markbeiser]

At more than 8" wider than an F-150, I'm not sure it is suitable for most European cities...

[@mv6113]

@@markbeiser on the production modell as well?

[@jamesmchugo9422]

I have three questions. First question; WHEN? When will Aptera start delivering production models I can actually put my butt in and drive. Second question; Winter driving. How well does handle snow and ice, and not just a light covering, I mean inches 3, 4, 6 inches or more of snow, ice and/or slush. And lastly; Can the climate control deal with temperatures anywhere from -35F (that’s actual air temperature, not wind chill) to temperature as hot as 115F? In one of the video I watched the temperature extremes Aptera was looking at dealing with were something between 45F to 80F. News flash, -35F in the winter and as high as 115F in the summer are real possibilities, I’d like to know is the cabin climate control up for the challenge? A heated seat and steering wheel isn’t going to cut it if the rest of me is freezing.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

There is so much uncertainty in the supply chain now that this question can't even be answered by manufacturers of cars that are already shipping. Manufacturing centers in China are shut down by Covid. Several factories in Japan were shut down by the earthquake last week. Factories in Ukraine are shut down by war. It is still possible that Aptera will be able to start delivering early production models by the end of the year, but there is a great deal of uncertainty in this. As far as winter driving, I suspect that Aptera will be capable, especially with studded snow tires up to around 5", similar to other compact cars. Part of the reason is that the ABS/traction control can detect slip and adjust torque on each driven wheel 32 times per wheel revolution, or about every 2.5" of tread travel for each driven wheel. This is a superior performance. Finally, the climate control is spec'd to perform over a range of -20 to 125 F, and the validation testing will cover this range. The performance should be fine at your high end, but we won't know what it is below -20 until people report back.

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮ ❤🕊

[@criper80]

I just wonder if it would ever get to Mexico ...And if it does, how could it pass bumps and holes. One more concern: oil industry has struggled for years to kill the electric vehicle and the few of them in the market are made really counter-productive. will Aptera pass the oil industry traps to the market?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

I have done environmental work in Mexico, especially in the Monterrey area. Aptera will handle anything that small Japanese vehicles can, and do it more reliably with less damage to the environment.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@vic321344 Not in comparison to most vehicles found on the road there now, I am quite sure.