Divide & Conquer (V4.5): Faction Overview - Woodland Realm

[@legiosulla5882]

Yes the woodland realm

[@Vuile25]

The poorest elves of middle earth;)

[@legiosulla5882]

@@Vuile25 no the avari are

[@Insaneforrain]

@@legiosulla5882 The avari?

[@legiosulla5882]

@@Insaneforrain the dark elf of the Lord of the rings

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

@@legiosulla5882 there's dark elves on lotr?

[@frederik7802]

Just a minor addition, as the Wood elves (and Lothlorien as well I believe), you can get an extra armor level in Ost-in-Edhil, where the gwaith-i-mirdain functions as your advanced blacksmith.

[@ShantanuSuchil]

Or just take a Dwarf settlement with Hall of Aule

[@ShantanuSuchil]

@Jeffrey Epstein sure, why not. You still need to have an available tier of armour left offcourse. But it works wonders for the High Elves in upgrading their armour in former Dwarf territory because Hall of Aule is same tier as the Gwaith-i-Mirdain

[@djorion7245]

Do tou know maybe hkw to fix loadin bug?? Ring is turnin and i cant do a thing, turn is 257 i have 17 regions, destroy dg and barad dur and when i attacked cirith ungol it stated to bug....

[@thedanyourmancouldsmelllike]

On the topic of the Elven union script, I think an interesting addition might be a third option, that is calling upon Mirkwood's friendship with Erebor and Dale and so gaining access to some of their units. So it might be that you receive the message you're going to be attacked by Mordor and Dol Guldur (unless you've killed DG already), and are given three choices: Seek the aid of your kin in Lorien, trust to the (relatively) newly rekindled bonds with Dwarves and Men, or weather the storm alone. Maybe to make up for the fact you'll practically always be allied with Erebor and Dale their option is more involved as a defence. So you get the ability to recruit a few of their units to plug some gaps in your lineup (Dwarven infantry for example) and a mixed Human-Dwarf half stack or something, but you must not only defend Thranduil's Halls from a large attack, but 1 or 2 turns later a second, equally large attack is dropped on Dale, then another on Erebor, and if either falls your new army, the ability to recruit Dwarvish and Dalian units and so on disappears with them. Obviously not sure how viable such an addition would be, and I've no doubt it would hardly be a doddle in terms of workload, but figured I'd put it out there.

[@spinspir1741]

Another good idea, would be to be able to train the Avari Elves if you capture the Dorwinion Heartlands as an AOR feature. And also give you some motive to fight against Rhun.

[@mustacheBpf]

The Elder Council should have 4 missiles, since the model uses 4 javelins (3 behind the shield and 1 in the right hand).

[@feelingpine9123]

A little noticed change in v4.5 DaC for Woodland Realm is that the unit size of most of their archers was increased by about 15 soldiers per unit, whilst their melee infantry's was decreased by the same amount. This means that Woodland Realm archers now have the most men (elves) per unit of any Elven factions. This combined with already having the best Range and Attack (not to mention their sheer volume of bow-using units) secures them as having the best archers in the game by a significant margin. Naturally, however, this means their infantry is the weakest by Elven standards. So it's wise to hold them back until your archers have pretty much gutted the enemy already and it's time to just mop up the survivors.

[@kendalljohnson9172]

something else is to spray with archers then used some infantry to hold enemies in place for archers. Mostly for fighting much larger armies than yours that’s useful

[@toeknee3410]

I didn’t really mind the fact that Lothlorien and WR were sort of copies of each other, and although I don’t mind the new units, I would’ve preferred the old 2H sword and Shield/Spear units they had. I really liked their spear unit, it had a unique looking spear model that resembled the one in the movie. Also, if adding the glaive unit was going to be controversial, maybe adding it to either the regular WR bodyguard or Thranduil’s bodyguard would’ve been a middle ground since those units are (somewhat) more scarce, especially since Thranduil’s unit depends on what choice you make. I think it fits perfectly with Thranduil’s bodyguard to be honest and it was also shown in some Hobbit concept art that looked pretty cool.

[@wanderingronin6462]

Yeah man I really liked the way the wood elves looked in the Hobbit I thought the ones in the Battle of the Five Armies looked so damn cool.

[@BoomTownJava]

I second this. I really liked the spear/shield, and two handed sword variants from the Hobbit films. It was cool to see them recreated, and always fun to have a line of spear men, with swords men behind to charge at the last minute. If you want to give the glaive to a unit give it to the elder guard or to Thranduils guard. Or just revert back to the V3 Woodland realm. Personally I don’t think nor care if they are a clone of Lorien, the color scheme and feel is different. Better yet, get rid of the glaive.

[@toeknee3410]

Steelsy Unfortunately, the new units are there to stay. I doubt they’ll be changed in the foreseeable future. Our only hope is for some kind soul to make a submod that changes the units back, I’d even be willing to do it myself if I knew how. Alas, the only thing I know is how to edit unit stats and a couple other things here and there.

[@BoomTownJava]

Toe Knee I feel you. I may just stick with my V3 build which I have currently.

[@TheRybob]

I agree i really liked the old Spear/shield of the Woodland Realm, But i do really like the Axeguard instead of twohanded swords. Only thing is they really should be made AP and just have attack lowered so not too OP. just a worse version of The smiths or Eregion or Better version of the Loke Rim mace and shield unit and would make Woodland realm very unique.

[@Omuraisu0]

Something I personally did is that I further defined Lorien and Woodland Realm rosters by slightly increasing Lorien archers' range and gave them some more arrows and the opposite to Woodland Realm archers but with increased missile and melee damage instead, as well as 120% movement speed and the ability to hide anywhere. I felt this fit into their playstyles as the defensive Lorien and the aggressive, guerilla-style Woodland Realm.

[@Trident121]

How did you change this?

[@quintonmiller2182]

Used ents recently and noticed they can be quite easily stun locked. I lost a whole unit to a unit of rhudaur huskarls. Maybe a candidate for relentless?

[@robbierobdergrutzkopfderwa2566]

Yes, but then the trolls too.

[@secondson294]

I'm not 100% sure but Trolls (and so are the Ents) cannot be stun loked because of its unique animation. Probably it is just high AP damage that brought down your Ents.

[@feelingpine9123]

Correct Ents have the same animation set as Trolls and thus cannot be staggered by default. AP units are a threat to Ents due to their tiny unit size and reliance on Armour for defense, so keep them away from those.

[@50ULL355]

Like trolls, they can't stay unsupported in prolonged combat. Use ents to disrupt the formation, followed by infantry support. Otherwise they kinda just roll over and die.

[@JordanR]

They use Troll anims and Trolls can't be stunlocked. Sounds like you just threw them away in a bad unit matchup tbh.

[@arturravenbite1693]

I’m looking forward to the Khazad-Dum overview. I’m betting money on the Hammers of Gundabad to get #1 strike infantry if Anduin Vale’s bodyguard doesn’t

[@astilla9]

And First Legion in top 2 pikemen :D

[@KitchenFSink]

@@astilla9 I once fought the Fountain guard vs the First legion and the Fountains won it with like 40 men left. Fountain should be in the top 5 in that list imo.

[@astilla9]

@@KitchenFSink I once fought giant Mordor army (3 nazghuls, 2 standart generals, rest mostly mid-tier units) with 4 units of Fountain guards and generals with few militia units guarding the flanks, timer went out and I lost only about 20 Fountains guardsmen (with rest of my army dead), they really are beasts :D

[@SkAnD1NaV1An]

Khazad dum reclaimers are basically an axe-throwing direct upgrade of the hammerguard, and so believe they should be considered

[@wickedheart8201]

It still kinda amazes me that there are so many building icons that are buildings from Spellforce 1. It always makes me want to replay that game

[@Dsonsee]

It's a superb game, if a little underappreciated

[@stevenborchert6551]

@@Dsonsee Just so hard to get running nowadays :( Spellforce 2 was alright but nothing could really beat the first series of spellforce

[@malacaymcleoud6533]

@@stevenborchert6551 Spellforce(1) Platinum Edition works 100% at steam. Install and play. :) Atleast for me.

[@stevenborchert6551]

@@malacaymcleoud6533 Doesn't for me sadly, I got the same, but it had a lot of issues. Ended up being able to play after a few hours but its stuck in a window borderless screen thats stretched, probably because of my resolution!

[@malacaymcleoud6533]

@@stevenborchert6551 Im sorry for you! :( Maybe there is a solution for your problem out there.

[@sotiriospeithis6659]

Having played this faction a few times, I keep coming back to it. The WR is my favourite niche faction. I feel if I had to design them, I would really lean on the "wild elves" vibe, with LOTS of javelins and lightning fast units that can hide anywhere. I love the elder council. It's arguably my favourite unit in the mod along with avari spearman and sindar axemen

[@sotiriospeithis6659]

This is probably my second favorite faction after Dorwinion! However, I was wondering why the elite units are so small? The elder council has 100 units, and the axeguard and gateguard are below 100. This makes for rather small looking armies and puts most of these units below combat strength after one or two fight. It just does not feel satisfactory to charge with 60 axeguard. I was comparing their stats with other units limited to below 100 strength, and it really does not feel like they should be penalized so much. The noldor veterans, for example, outclass the guateguard, but they have 101 models to their unit.

[@secondson294]

Perhaps making all axe wielding units be armor piercing is the way to go? That removes questions like "why this unit is AP and the identical one from that other faction is not".

[@SirHector1999]

8:50 had a good laugh at that picture in my head, great mod and great commentary

[@RJALEXANDER777]

16:57 it would be fair to argue that the Woodland Realm produces more skilled archers than the elves of Lothlorien are ahead technologically. You could represent this in game by Legolas' people having slightly higher stats overall, but Galadriel's people having superior range and armour etc.

[@Muddysoap14]

The woodland realm is my favourite, kinda bummed that you took the elite spear unit out, oh and could you show us what units you get if you say yes to the alliance with lothlorien? Great stuff as allway’s galu.

[@toeknee3410]

Same, they were my favorite woodland realm unit, they just looked so cool lol.

[@cstrutherskgs]

Why did they take them out?

[@AndersMurberg]

cstrutherskgs To make the woodland Realms less of a Lothlorien copy. Personally I dislike the twinblades and one handed axemen a bit, as is my right and very subjective opinion. They already had a very good axe unit, and twinblades doesn’t feel tolkien esque at all...though I do like elves with axes in general, as it is lore accurate.

[@cstrutherskgs]

Anders Casso Axes is good. I just miss the spear and shield unit. Feels very eleven.

[@AndersMurberg]

@@cstrutherskgs Yeah...the spearwall looked amazing, and the woodelves use mostly spears in the hobbit book as well!

[@professionalproductions4156]

As a starting modder for DaC, id really like to know why legolas lost his custom look. Is there a custom look limit like units?

[@stridertex]

Just got done playing with the Woodland Realm - very fun faction. In the tactical defensive, Hin e-Daur are basically LOTR machine gunners. Unbelievable firepower - mine wiped out entire units of trolls before they even made contact. Campaign was interesting - Dol Guldur was a breeze as I rushed them hard in the beginning and then Dale and Lorien finished them off. HOWEVER ... Gundabad absolutely comes for you and they are an OP pain in the ass. Even though I never lost a battle to them, I walked away with 50% casualties or more from them, and that was with the amazing firepower of the archers. Their basic units are ridiculously powerful and they steamroll Anduin and even give Erebor a run for their money. Thanks again for covering all this!

[@Dsonsee]

Just to add a comment: the woodland realm elves do look fantastic. I love how the design managed to use brown and green without making them boring-looking

[@benmarshall8767]

Love the idea of the Wood Elves uniting! That would be great fun, and help provide more variety for nations to fight. In my last Wood Elf campaign, I sent an army to Fangorn and went after Isenguard after Dol Guldur. It was a really nice change of pace, and could be something that a unification could help bring about in more campaigns.

[@krismi1755]

I love how you introduce another faction at the end of the video, it’s majestic.

[@deutschgaming4109]

Minor inaccuracy in your vid. Gundabad does come for you quite often. It didn't matter if Woodland Realm was AI or player controlled, they always come for Taur Phinnin by turn 30ish.

[@50ULL355]

They ignored me on my v.hard/v.hard campaign. Erebor normally keeps them busy. Of course in my campaign dale and dorwinion swamped rhun with my help so, yeah

Every campaign is different.

[@paulbirkenstock1959]

they came for me....pillaged my town cuz my guard was down haha

[@50ULL355]

@@paulbirkenstock1959 how was your diplomacy? Selling them my map info kept them on good terms with me until erebor took all their land

[@paulbirkenstock1959]

@@50ULL355 i had outstanding diplomacy with them....it felt weird cuz legit the dark lord of mordor loved me and dol goldur and mordor did as well and i am at war with them soooo yah

[@trollwayy5981]

I love the idea of combining lothlorien and WR

[@robbierobdergrutzkopfderwa2566]

Hell yes!!

[@50ULL355]

That would be cool, by taking dol guldur out you're literally neighbors at that point. May as well unite!

[@melkor3496]

Same.

[@wintersking4290]

On separating the two (non-noldor) elven realms. I always thought of Lorien as an Archer and cav heavy faction. The woodland realm is different in the Hobbit books they are said to have archers, but if memory serves spears are also mentioned. I always thought of them as a faction with powerful infantry and stealthy archers.

[@sageofcaledor8188]

Thank you for an awesome video! I think the wood elves are awesome!

[@willdelapradera]

Lothlorien longbows, range and damage. Woodland Realm shortbows, very fast shoot. Just an idea.

[@cassielaralim5443]

For the love of god why did you remove the movie units??! I have nothing against the added ones but why remove the iconic spear and sword unit we all know and love?!

[@cstrutherskgs]

Exactly. I hope we get a response.

Do you mean the ones from Helms Deep that Lothlorien use........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

[@cassielaralim5443]

@ No I mean those from the Hobbit. But I guess if you removed the Lothlorien ones as well, then yes 😅

You mean the gate guard, archers and elvenkings guard who are all in the mod and in this blooming video.

[@cstrutherskgs]

Arachîr Galudirithon I suspect he means the lords of the spear for the Woodland Realm. Were they removed? I don’t want to bother, apologizes. He means they no longer are spear and shield when they become the elvenking version.

[@bluespice8865]

I appreciate the overview. Just started up my own Woodland Elves series, I shall see how well my pesky enemies to the south fight.

[@lopezlirio4004]

the elven union might be union with Lorien and have all they're cities and units this will be fantastic for the campaing, great mod ether

[@Graywolf335]

A better bow doesn't mean better skill haha Also, that bow Legolas got is a bit unique. The standard Lothlorien warbow is the one used by Haldir and the Galadhrim

[@eluukkanen]

Great that you keep making these updates! I have played this faction, difficult to play when having human opponents.

[@piggperson]

I like what you did with the T3 Glaive unit. I was worried when the unit card showed up in the beginning of the unit showcase that they'd be like a halberd unit, but hearing they act as more a two-handed sword unit is nice. I look forward to using them!

[@GamingTremor]

Giving this faction a try today, thanks for the video!

[@go2hell4eva]

The Woodland Realm can get their advanced blacksmith perk from Eregion! It gives a humongous boost and is worth getting. I haven’t managed to get there yet in my campaign but I did test it.

[@ludde016]

A really strong feature of the Silvan Alliance Encampment is that it only costs ~1500 and the units require no culture to be trained. This means that you could already be producing units and having free-upkeep units in a settlement in about 4 turns after capturing it.

[@50ULL355]

With the nerfing of thranduils bodyguard, the incentive for the choice doesn't seem worth it in my opinion. Edit:are they still ap in melee? Galu said they are, but it's not in their tool tip?

[@trollwayy5981]

Man galadrhim or whatever guards are amazing imho

[@danisrusski6297]

@@trollwayy5981 Yeah but they're so rare, and two way more easily avalible meele units can really help you with maintaining a solid frontline over time... don't get me wrong, the Guards are amazing though

[@cstrutherskgs]

I haven’t made it that far. Were they really nerfed? Oh no. And the elite spear unit.

[@shorkan1000]

It doesn't say in the tooltip, because secondary weapons (in this case the melee weapon) never shows up in the text on the unit card.

[@PolluxA]

I don't think archers can have ap weapons, if I'm not wrong. Hardcoded.

[@maxgrozema1093]

Is it possible to look into adding the great spiders of mirkwood? I know they used to crash the game but the team made the ents work again, so maybe the spiders could work? And make them only recruitable in Cirith Ungol, Dol Guldur and maybe another settlement in Mirkwood? Or maybe only recruitable as mercenaries in Cirith Ungol? Make them high armor (because of arachnid exoskeleton) low defense skill, bringing fear to enemies, fast moving infantry?

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Terrain bonus in woods, decrease effectiveness in barren and snowy terrain. But yeah, IF they found a solution to the crashing issue seeing the spiders back would be pretty cool.

[@melkor3496]

@Arachir Galudirithon Is it possible do you think?

[@smdrobot]

I played them in v3 and the early game was really fun, but i not only had to deal with Mordor. But also Rhun completely overran Dorwinion. So facing two stack spam power houses made me put the campaign away. Facing off against just mordor is doable, but Rhun controlling everything east of the forest minus 2 settlements at turn 65 on top of Mordor was too much a grind for me lol as over next 40 turns only really gained 3 regions and after a back and forth.

[@cesare.lopezelll8122]

Great vid Galu really looking forward to you doing a campaign with them as you did once long ago and lost though with all the updates I'm sure a new campagin would be quite interesting

[@Esquarious]

I remember from a much older version there used to be a custom ancillary for Thranduil uniting the Greenwood. Is that still in the game/is it required to take Leodhalt from The Anduin if Dol Goldur haven't conquered that region yet?

[@Ottocide]

I love the idea of merging with Lothlorian into a mega Silvan Elf empire. Gaining a mix of both factions units is an awesome idea

[@TrashbinCat]

I actually thought that Legolas was hilariously OP with regenerating hin e-daur bodyguard. Bait units into near-melee range, set guard mode, and blast away through the enemy with arrows. Send him on his own on top of a wall and laugh wickedly as he scrubs the entire wall section clean of an enemy army.

[@jaredthehawk3870]

To be fair in the Hobbit films the Elves of the Woodland Realm were shown weilding a doubled headed glaive like polearm specifically the gate guards so having that unit weilding such a weapon is accurate to the film.

[@TheRewasder97]

"Most of your population has never seen the sea, how woulf they be seafeares? They simply woodn't."

[@yesplizz161]

You should have kept the movie units, they were the best and their names too.I love this faction and those units were iconic!The 2 bladed weapon seems a bit off too.

You mean the units from Helms Deep that Lothlorien have......

[@yesplizz161]

Arachîr Galudirithon No.I meant the units from The Battle Of The Five armies, the spearmen with the shields and the swordsmen.

[@yesplizz161]

Arachîr Galudirithon The ones from the previos versions.

Oh I see you mean the archers and the gate guard who are still in the mod and in this damned video.

[@yesplizz161]

Arachîr Galudirithon The Hir-e-lang and the Hir-en-ech are no longer in this video.You understand now?

[@cstrutherskgs]

No more lords of the spear elite unit? Why? Aren’t the Aredhirth also weaker than they were as well?

[@glassyeti2342]

With all the kindness of comradeship but didnt you lose this campaign twice? so surely a difficultly of 3/4?

[@whowoulge1256]

Ide really love to see the spear and two handed swords for the elves of Mirkwood. I don’t mind too much about the lack of variety just because they are such cool units

[@carsenhomer2951]

I've always wanted to have Lothlorien and the Woodland Realm combine at the event. Both factions hold a special place in my heart and it seems like such an awesome thing for them to band together to face every threat that may come at them! Especially seeing as Imladris and Lindon were combined into the High Elves. And it makes sense that Thranduil would resist such a union so there is a reason to leave the choice up to the player and not just make them one faction like the High Elves.

[@BloodhawkProductions]

no more elder pathfinders? and a complete overhaul of the elites! How dare you!!! just kidding, you've taught us to mod ourselves and planted the seeds where if we want the old style, we can mod them into version 4/5 ourselves... Cheers Galu, I do enjoy the changes and will try them, but will also bring in the old spearmen and pathfinders for my personal version a v4 and v5... :-)

[@BloodhawkProductions]

although suggestion, why not give the elder council the same armor as the elites and a slight buff? they would fulfill the rolls of javelin and spearmen.

[@cstrutherskgs]

Just as my vote. I would rather have the Gateguard get their spear and shield back. They need their shield.

[@wintersking4290]

Ah Silverthorn arrows... The most OP thing In BFME.

[@nikk.598]

So where in rochburg can you train ents? Do you need the elven alliance script for it?

[@mjohanss1975]

Did you manage to figure out how to get ents? I am trying to figure it out right now.

[@Laureasairon]

As I have never played the Silvan factions, I am interested if and the forests affect their archers? It seems counterproductive, having a top-tier archer based faction in heavy forests, because of Med2 reducing arrow effectiveness in forests. Anyone with experience?

[@thehumanity3324]

I wouldnt mind lothlorien having the better archers whilst also having the better defence (which makes sense: holding your line so that your archers do the damage), but then perhaps make the woodland realm extra deadly in melee which also makes sense as skill in close quater combat is essential in a dense forest like mirkwood

[@timsullivan3167]

If the elite infantry armor is based of the Hobbit movie, why wouldn’t you add the spear/shield unit that are actually in the battle?

It came to me in the night, it floated down from the heavens and a great sense of relief and power washed over me as it descended. The being had no form and spoke no words but , somehow, I understood what it was saying - it told me not to add the spear/shield unit that are actually in the battle. Who am I to defy divinity?

[@nefarious8278]

Not giving them an elite spear unite for variety I think is a mistake

[@Crosmando]

Hey Arachir have you/dac devs ever considered making Fangorn Forest a playable faction, with perhaps the Huorns being the more basic infantry thereof?

[@Ironfistus]

I'm pretty new to the mod. What is the reason for making trolls and ents infantry instead of cavalry? It would seem almost perfect to me as they would be weak to pikes, spears, would be faster and have a powerful charge and it would stop them from climbing ladders and siege towers. What am I missing? Thanks for answers.

Mounts have to have riders.

[@GrandCondemned]

Eryn Lasgalen is what he canonically named his realm after the RotK, I believe. What I would've called his faction.

[@streak729]

combining Woodland realm with Lothlorien would be very cool

[@midasandagun9415]

how do i recruit Ents? when i toggle fow map. on map under Khan territory there is treebeard etc. when they get out? explain please

[@mjohanss1975]

Did you ever figure out how to recruit ents? I am trying to figure that one out right now. He says how to do it in this video but it does not work for me.

[@PattyOflan88]

16:30 ish In my personal head canon, I have viewed it as lothlorean has the better bow craftsmanship, and woodland realm the best archers. They don't need to be mutually exclusive

[@BenignViewer]

Another Idea for a Woodland Realm script is Purging Mirkwood. Once the Woodland Realm controls all of the Mirkwood regions, they unlock a late tier unit and/or a bonus to population growth and trade(?)

[@commandertechsalt736]

Can I have divide and conquer and also reforged at the same time? I play multiplayer but I also play single player and reforged crashes every 2-3 turns after around turn 20-30

[@mjohanss1975]

Can anybody confirm that you get ents by building the Dance Guild in Rochburg? I took Rochburg and built the Dance Guild but still no ents. I managed to get ents in both vanilla Third Age and with MoS but I just don't seem to be able to get them in DaC.

[@kherlenturtogtokh]

Some fictional generals have their own custom model and Legolas doesn't have?

[@wanderingronin6462]

I love this mod, especially how mcuh time and care is being put into it and the fact that it doesn't really feel like a mod is amazing! My main problem with it is the fact that I can never seem to recruit what I actually want, even low tier infantry can be few and far between and many of my armies just feel 'cobbled together'. I think the really slow replenishment times for the units could be lessened a little bit but other than that the mod is exceptionally made. Glad to see that you're a modding team that is still alive and kicking for Medieval II as most seem to have gone long ago which can be quite sad.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

Yes. I think part of it is just how the recruitment system works in Medieval 2 compared to other games, making it difficult and somewhat impractical to make more uniform armies. In a way it's fitting that armies are kinda cobbled together for a game that takes place in Middle Earth. Fits the rag-tag armies of Mordor, and the desperation of the Free People's scrambling every able-bodied man they can get together to use examples. But I also like uniform, well-balanced armies. Can be annoying fighting enemy armies as well, having to squint at precisely what kind of unit you're looking at before you decide what unit of yours to commit against them, and not necessarily having the right tool for the job on hand.

[@scottyboyt313]

Little tip I used for the hin e daur unit is to stalk them around to the flank and then bombard the enemy battle line. Many a kill doing this.

[@Mercernary42]

really enjoyed my campaign but i tried to accept the elven alliance and got as far as "shall we send a diplomat to finalise the alliance" and then never heard anything more after I clicked confirm to that stage of the script..... never got the Kickass Unit or the Encampment Building, dunno if this has happened to anyone else?

[@jacksonperez5615]

What if there was a semi rework for WR where most of their infantry are hybrids like cardolan sentinels. So you keep the archer superiority but with the aggression stats they should have

[@maxgrozema1093]

Or, make their archers lower range but higher damage and accuracy across the whole roster! You can't shoot far between trees and have to be really precise to hit your target

[@Florensbond]

Union of the elves would be awesome

[@patgray5402]

I greatly miss the beautiful round elven shields from earlier versions.

[@galumir]

Independently of my stance towards wild fantasy weapons I am asking myself though, why give the bonus vs mounts boni to a axe and board unit instead of the double bladed something one? Having an anti cavalry shock infantry would be something new. Of course they would be much more vulnerable to taking cavalry charges because they don't have shields, but at the same time the woodland realm doesn't strike me as having faced off against cavalry all that often so it fits the history if you will.

[@feelingpine9123]

That was actually a mistake on my part in forgetting to update that bit of the text. Neither Gate or Axeguard actually get an anti-cav bonus at the moment.

[@paulwhitecotton7430]

You guys are doing really aswoeme tho love playing this game

[@maro4500]

Hello, I wonder if there is a way to delete the following feature: When you take enemy's capital (e.g. Edoras, Minas Tirith) after 1 turn spawn 1 huge professional army, for me it's too challangeable. I have already deleted Dynamic Garrison (I'm just not use to it, I'm old Medieval 2 player and don't like this featue either :P) so is there a way or not? Thanks in advance for the answer

[@baeromir]

I'm rather new to all this but I believe that's the last stand force, which spawns when a faction has 2 regions. My way around this has been regicide, or trying to take all 3 remaining cities in one turn

[@mellon4251]

Playing as Lothlorien in an older version (4.0 maybe) I could also recruit ents from Isengard itself. Is this a bug or intended to be like this? Great mod btw😃

[@Jacksparraw073]

If you want to download this do you need the tatw 3.0 part 1 and 2 and 3.2 installed or do you dont need this? And if you have already have these mods will you need to delete those to download this mod?

[@denen404]

@Arachir just a fair update for ya :D took this off the lord of the rings wiki :D "Legolas was the son of Thranduil, the King of the Elves of Northern Mirkwood. His mother, AELIR was the queen of that realm, but was taken captive and abused by the Orcs of Mount Gundabad."

That is completely made up by someone who has edited the wiki. NEVER use the wiki for information.

[@denen404]

RIP welp there goes my faith in the internet rofl thanks

[@denen404]

Nvm I'm just dumb...the site I clicked was wiki....fanon wiki...rip

[@djorion7245]

Anyone know how to fix loadin ring thing???? I destroyed sauron and nearly entire mordor and after few turns begin to blook with ring loadin???

[@cstrutherskgs]

Does anyone know why Legolas lost his custom character model? (Like the modding reason)

[@sianglian3354]

Can you pls like make their armor and stuff shiny with gold and stuff like on Reforged? I like playing DAC campaign as the Woodland Realm and would be way more exciting and better if they look more better yfm. But thx for the mod tho I enjoy playing it fr.

[@thehumanity3324]

The elvenkings gateguard are so cool! But why do they not get a bonus against all mounts whilst they have a spear like weapon but the axeguard do? Feels like they should be skilled against all mounts

[@renan15jose12]

Ahhhhhh finally, the best faction

[@mirezelderon4992]

Can you please do Rhun after Khazad-Dum? I really want to see Rhun because they are my favorite faction. Loving all of these and am excited to play again once I get a new computer

[@karelleet]

Why have the flat battle maps dissapeared? Hills everywhere

[@VenomCold]

quite sad to see the hir-e lang/beng go. theyre such beautiful units

They lost their names and their weapons but in all other aspects they live on. :-)

[@classicalcrossthehalobring4829]

has mordor gone through any changes from v3 to 4.5

[@garicb9271]

the lothlorien elves archery skill is enhanced by their superior bows but is otherwise lower than the woodland elves. thats why legolas + lothlorien bow = op

[@artolan_illusive]

Too bad that WR's elite melee units have such small unit size. Lorien units have 100 men in battalion as I remember and WR just 89 and it's not even compoensated with AP on axeguard.

[@rogueshadow4960]

Still think that u should change the axeguard for spear guard and add cav spear or sword unit and use the animal that thranduil rides as the mount

[@Nielschr1000]

Playing them again, wauw the diff has been increased. Has the start units for Woodland been nerfed? Only generals, and archer cav make any sense. Inf is only to give the archers time to do their job, but when regular archers run out of arrows it is very bad.

[@cstrutherskgs]

Elves don’t get anyone who can place stakes?

[@Potecasuioan]

My good sir, why the elite bowguard has 114 unit size and other, on the same tier, mere 89 ? Is that intended? Edit: Woodland Elfs don't get a unit who can place stakes?

[@egecandincer3373]

i'm new here what is the best faction for orcs ?

[@paulwhitecotton7430]

When Legolas going to be a custom model? Like Gimli, Aragorn, Gandalf ect ect.

[@Marcel-wz9py]

Can I install AI mod for DaC?, and what is the best AI mod for DaC?

[@MR-ux2vu]

The pew pew Elves

[@bl4ckfox]

Oh no, the pathfinders are gone??? :-( I thought about starting a new woodland campain, but without a heavy cav unit, I lost the motivation to do so.

[@themilo1567]

I kind of agree that stack spam is one of the biggest problems with Medieval 2. But if it really becomes too annoying, then can't you just play on Normal or Hard? Or does that also weaken the AI in other ways besides economy?