Top 20 Derby Winners 1950 - 2017

[@markwoolley7405]

For me you saved the best until last - what a storming win by Troy.

[@kayrobertson5460]

What a awesome post...that was a brilliant trip down memory lane,I love hearing the old timers again,thank you ❤️

[@kepnjem]

Great racing, great memories, great horses. They were all brilliant . I always had a soft spot for Troy. That's for getting him in there.

[@phillipstadtmiller9994]

slip anchor in 85 was totally amazing

[@tubeyhamster]

Look how quickly Sea Bird passes the leaders, who are all under a full head of steam, at 8:14. He does it so easily it doesn’t seem real.

[@MoniekRedhead]

I thought the same about Shergar... Hands down, all alone... And lammtarra, impressive 😍

[@simonhindley65]

Lammtarra, possibly the most stunning 'wet sail' finish ever seen at this level.

[@octavia2]

Pour Moi? Came from last at Tatttenham Corner to first five yards from the post.

[@simonhindley65]

Not for me. Pour Moi didn't quite explode through his field in the same way as Lammtarra.

[@johnnywires943]

Nijinsky on his day would have given all a run for their money.

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

The next time ITV screens the Derby I hope they will find an introduction to replace "Frankel's done it, the horse of a lifetime!" Had he won the Derby & Arc, that statement would have something to support it.

[@stevecampbell6294]

Sea the Stars did exactly that the 2000 Guineas, The Derby and The Arc all in 1 season.Only horse to do it!

[@kurman4749]

The hallmark of the greatest racehorses is if they achieved the Epsom Derby and Arc double. Very few have done it, in fact only 7 achieved that feat: Sea Bird, Mill Reef, Sinndar, Lammtarra, Sea the Stars, Workforce and Golden Horn. Dancing Brave should have been among them as he should have won the Epsom Derby. I, personally, wouldn't rate Workforce or Golden Horn as great though.

[@quidnunc2436]

Sea Bird was the only horse to win the Derby on the bridle, a feat he repeated in the Arc. He was definitely the greatest racehorse I have ever seen.

[@buddymanalastas4767]

Quidnunc billiard efren reyes

[@bgardiner3354]

On the bridle? In the Arc Glennon looked like he was trying to pull him up for most of the last furlong. I agree... he was a freak.

[@barbaradyson6951]

Quid wrong slip anchor came home on the bridle. Also Shergar came home on the bridle

[@somersetfan1]

Shergar won it even easier I'd say.

[@barbaradyson6951]

@jongleur of course you would know better as you work in the business. Haha

[@garycurrington5495]

Without doubt one of the greatest jockeys to have ever graced a racecourse, R.I.P The Long Fellow.

[@davidhunter9367]

For me - and we must remember that everything is subjective on here - those horses with an electrifying burst of finishing speed are the not only the most exciting and the most satisfying , but also the best. My favourite horse is Sir Ivor. I remember being in a state of bemusement whenever he was beaten. Lamtarra was sensational, but the greatest, of course, was the incomparable Sea Bird.

[@livelifeliveponies9623]

Awesome! Has to be my first love ❤️ Nijinsky ❤️ Mill Reef , Grundy, The Milstrel & Shergar xx

[@buffalosowljah]

more great names of the 70s/80s

[@9pwsscamel369]

Troy was phenomenal on the day.

[@jean-emile5004]

LE PLUS GRAND CHEVAL DE TOUS LES TEMPS. SEA BIRD,

[@kurman4749]

I agree with you, Jean-Emile, Sea Bird WAS the greatest of all time.

[@ramierechristiane]

Entièrement d'accord avec vous. Je ne suis pas sûre que Secrétariat lui-même aurait pu l'inquiéter. Mais les courses européennes et américaines ne se courent pas du tout de la même façon. Corde à gauche, corde à droite, le dirt, le gazon, il y a trop de différences. La victoire de Sea Bird dans l'Arc reste un monument du genre. Pat Glennon l'a isolé en pleine piste pour le faire admirer de tous et malgré cela il a laissé à plusieurs longueurs Reliance et Diatome qui, sans lui, auraient été qualifiés de très grands cracks. L'un de mes souvenirs préférés ❤❤❤❤❤

[@oslinthompson8182]

I was a kid, just heard about Lester and started watching horse racing. I remember watching The Minstrel versus Hot Grove, and Lester's "triple whip" action during the final furlong: it still gives me goosebumps!

[@franklinkellman7029]

It was a thrill watching these great horses i remember listening to my first Epson derby Winner Sir Ivor and the great Piggott in Barbados betting pool

[@iandisney4872]

Bit surprised Crepello (1957) not included, remember the runner up to Crepello was Ballymoss who went on to win the St Leger and Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe. Unfortunately Crepello broke down and wasn’t able to run again.

[@colinward4592]

Yes Lester described Crepello has a great horse and would have won the triple crown in 1957 if he hadn't broke down, don the 2000 Guineas on he's reappearance that year and easily beat Ballymoss in the Derby who went on to win the Arc. Got injured before the King George, then while being prepared for the St Leger broke down again and didn't race again, for Lester to call him a great horse is a very high compliment considering he rode Sir Ivor, Nijinsky, Alleged etc

[@remitablechair]

Lamtarra , first race of the season and broke the track record.

[@Zarkava8]

Was the record at the time, Workforce holds the record now.

[@seanhallam4649]

Most of these are before my time (86 was the first I remember - & what an introduction with Dancing Brave flying from miles back, just failing to catch Sharastani!). Loved Lammtarra - so underrated...But my dear departed dad reckoned nothing would have beaten Sea Bird in '65. But all...ALL Derby winners deserve it on the day. Can only hope 2020 can be salvaged...

[@robin231176]

Good to see the normally under-rated Teenoso here.

[@simonhindley65]

I'd have replaced him with Shahrastani personally.

[@katyevans5658]

Troy ...he was the greatest in new age ..seabird well what a horse ..omg wish all those great horses could have competed ...brigadier gerard ..mill reef ..my favourites...so many great horses love them all ❤

[@markunwin2109]

Sea bird was breathtaking...shergar was magnificent

[@tigerboy1966]

Thanks for this compilation. Brought back many memories especially of 1987 when I bet the last £50 of my student grant on Most Welcome and stood up in the Liverpool University students' bar yelling "go on my son, get him son, get him, get him" which was a bit perplexing for my comrades. Fortunately the bet was £25 each way so I was able to pay the rent.

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

Aside from the Greatest (Seabird), I'd put Lammtarra up against ANY derby or Arc winner. .

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

I think Sea the Stars, Mill Reef and Nijinsky would have run him close

[@mjmurphy1775]

I think Galileo is the best

[@jasonfox4857]

I agree what a horse....to win the Derby 1st time out frm miles back, then to do what he done in the King George and Arc frm the front! PROPER HORSE.

[@philaishme6176]

@@mjmurphy1775 Top shagger! Just like his DAD🤗

[@andrewtaylor5833]

The sensational Shergar

[@nightowl7459]

@Andy Wheeldon Sometimes it's not what they beat but the way they them, might not have been a great field but definitely not selling platers.

[@shanej35]

Glint of Gold a selling plater? You muppet @Andy Wheeldon

[@markbosley26]

Kalaglow won the Eclipse and King George the next season.

[@MoniekRedhead]

@@nightowl7459 agree... Remember the last race of zenyatta? She lost it, but for me that was her best performance ever...

[@jasonfox4857]

@@MoniekRedhead that just doesn,t make sense...how can her best ever run be a loss!! No horse or athlete or team gets remembered for being 2nd....well other than maybe Frank Bruno!!!

[@michaelwilcox6090]

This is a very fair representation, and I keep changing my mind as to which is best. It used to be Nijinsky, but after seeing Sea Bird II again I think it's maybe him. Mill Reef was a better horse than in the 2000 Guineas and his 6 length victories in the KIng George and Queen Elizabeth Stakes and 6 length win in the Arc make him a contender. I'm sure of one thing, if all the Derby winners ran in one big race there'd be a turn up, and if they ran again after they were refreshed there'd be a different result. Without the American ringworm which severely weakened him, Nijinsky would have won the Arc and then retired unbeaten. He's the first triple crown winner since Bahram in 1935 and nobody can take that away from him. He also sired 3 Derby winners 1 more than Mill Reef.

[@andrewnelis9791]

Will miss the derby this year

[@magdalenaiwanicka5802]

I almost passed out when it came to Lammtarras GORGEOUS ending

[@danielmarshall356]

GREAT Memories of coming home on a Wednesday arvo and watching it after school ......2001 was this the only time ever 2 arc winners rode in a derby ?

[@PATRIARCA173]

Sea Bird-Sea The Stars-Mill Reef

[@barbaradyson6951]

Well slip anchor is one of two horses that have lead the derby from start to finish. No horse since has don't that.

[@spleeeen4it]

loved generous, hugely underrated ridden by a hugely underrated jockey alan munro

[@stevemartin7798]

can't see past Sea the stars as he won everything there was to win at the classic distance, but we will never know how great Shergar would have become, as he destroyed the field similar to the way Frankel did to all the great milers.

[@imranalli1512]

Sea the stars was sensational loves how he destroy good competition

[@dakg8034]

Ok, so what about Golden Fleece?

[@invisibleman4656]

Lamtarra n shergar my top 2

[@johnjoyce341]

Golden Horn was a fantastic racehorse as was Sea The Stars.Galileo was an impressive winner and has had a magnificent influence as a stallion

[@raborian]

Brilliant stuff mate, Have you got a miler list ?

[@markunwin2109]

Mill reef was my first derby winner...but the best ever winner for me was generous...

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

Shergar's winning time on what appears to be good to firm ground was 2.44.2, one of the slowest ever. Could it be that he was simply the best of a poor crop?

[@simonhindley65]

It's undeniable that Shergar faced a very mediocre standard of competition.

[@mallafets]

How many seconds faster would have he went if challenged from Tattenham corner?

[@gavinhiggins231]

Eberyone forgets just how good galileo was as a race horse because the stallion he is

[@simonhindley65]

As a racehorse, he's mostly remembered for his superb duels with Fantastic Light. I'd forgotten how good his Derby performance was.

[@lagosfury5142]

Well part of it is when he came to america for the breeders cup classic,,he wasnt that good,,i know its dirt but he wasnt really ever looking like a winner

[@buffalosowljah]

another great upload from the past... some very interesting races.. can remember from grundy..just cant beat the master piggot and his style of riding huh .. steve cauthen was another interesting import.. winning races by some lengths and triple crowns both sides of the atlantic

[@roberthartley6629]

Hawking would be acclaimed as a superstar winning the derby by 10 lengths if it were not for High Chaparral. His lockinge is one of my favourite races.

[@tigerboy1966]

You always something new when watching these old races. How the heck was the sprinter Ajdal still in contention 2 furlongs out in 1987. He must have been running on fumes for the last half mile: a very brave effort.

[@kevinkenny6975]

Knew he wouldn't stay but what a sprinter.

[@tonymahon5025]

Numerous reasons why Frankel can never be called the greatest of all time,and many of them are running in this post.

[@kevinkenny6975]

Frankel would have beaten anything over a mile.

[@manafalmola2634]

sea the stars legend

[@daxashah1506]

The title of the video should have Top Twenty Epsom Derby winners.Would have been better if Oath was included.Otherwise very high quality video.Thnx for sharing.

[@simonhindley65]

Oath? One of the worst Derby winners ever.

[@kurman4749]

Sea Bird was the greatest racehorse of them all. Even Lester Piggott rated him the best he had ever seen.

[@manafalmola2634]

sea the stars king the beast

[@invisiblemaninvisibleman2097]

Shergar Slip anchor Lamtarra Inagine??

[@simonhindley65]

Lammtarra would've cut them down in the shadow if the post.

[@friendlytiger8102]

Why no Roberto?He beat Rheingold and then Brigadier Gerard.

[@grahamjohnston7395]

Brigadier Gerard did not run the Mill Reef's Derby

[@friendlytiger8102]

Rhengold won an Arc and Roberto beat BG over 10f.I don't see why it matters BG did not run in the Derby.

[@friendlytiger8102]

Beat Rheingold and then only horse to beat BG later on.Its called the top 20 Derby winners.Its not just the race but what he also goes onto achieve to judge if he is a good quality Derby winner.I think he achieved both.

[@suzyaustin3039]

I disagree with your choices. How you can possibly put sindar ahead of Sea Bird, Nijinsky and Mill Reef is beyond comprehension to me. I would even put Lammtarra up there with the 3 I have mentioned. What do you base your criteria on?

[@Arazi124]

They're in alphabetical order. I haven't ranked them

[@rickstebbings9028]

Golden Fleece would have carried a good few of these home, esp Reference Point!!

[@sabrehill1]

Absolutely. I knew there would be at least 1 glaring omission and GF was it!

[@colinward4592]

Good list but for me Crepello, Royal Palace and Roberto have to be in there not sure about Pinza, High Chaparral

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

I think history has been unkind to Royal Palace. He backed up his 1967 Guineas win with the Derby but became injured later in the season and was never quite the same at 3, but next season he won the Eclipse beating Sir Ivor and his final race, the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth despite breaking down in the last half-furlong. Had he remained sound, who knows what he might have achieved?

[@colinward4592]

@@Horichdaslicht1858 totally agree, remember seeing an interview with Lester who rode the horse as a 2yo and saying he was a bit fragile, in the same interview he discussed Crepello who discribed as a great horse and if he didn't have bad legs said he would have won the triple crown in 1957 i think it was. To describe him as a great horse is a high compliment considering how many great horses in rode ie Nijinsky, Sir Ivor, Alleged etc but yes Royal Palace does seem to be disregarded by modern commentators

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

@@colinward4592 I hadn't heard that one. Maybe that's why Lester wanted to be released to ride Ribocco, resulting in the rift with Noel Murless, but the way he won the Royal Lodge convinced me that he was the likely '67 Derby winner

[@cornet959]

Sea The Stars is the first horse in history to win the three big European races: The 2,000 Guineas, The Derby and The Arc. All within six months.

[@davidfletcher1116]

Enjoyed them all, especially Lester Piggott

[@harrylyme2913]

Golden Fleece? Interesting list but anything missing Golden Fleece is seriously flawed.

[@brendanweldon9410]

Too right...was a great winner and unbeaten .

[@kurman4749]

Yes, Golden Fleece could have been anything.

[@kevinfee6522]

Shararstani 1986 beating dancing brave why missing

[@markbosley26]

He would certainly have beaten a High Chaperral, and the form of the race is better to say the very least...

[@jeanlawley6483]

Sharabanger was a donkey Dancing Brave took the piss out of it next time ...

[@simonhindley65]

He wasn't a donkey at all. The sublime Dancing Brave was just better.

[@jasonfox4857]

@@jeanlawley6483 and the time after!

[@imranalli1512]

Sea the stars always travel so easily plus beaten some very good animal especially the classy conduit who went on win the breeders cup two years straight

[@kevinmartin7606]

I can guarantee all you STS cheerleaders are new to horse racing sorry guys but you’ve missed a lot of REAL superstars way be before STS

[@markhiggins8315]

@@kevinmartin7606 There was some great horses before STS but his classic season was unbelievable. Definately one of the best ever.

[@kevinmartin7606]

Mark Higgins unbelievable in its mediocrity a weak year for racing STS the best of a sub standard bunch

[@markhiggins8315]

@@kevinmartin7606 No horse came within a length, he won as he liked every time. It wasn't a weak crop at all if you follow the subsequent form of the beaten horses. O'Brien threw everything he had at him. Mastercraftsman, Rip Van Winkle etc. Sea the Stars was exceptional no question.

[@kevinmartin7606]

Mark Higgins the O’Brien battalion was hardly vintage STS was a very good horse ! But one of the all time greats ? Never ever .

[@spowy2412]

Lammtarra for me

[@cornet959]

Prix l'Arc winner Urban Sea, is one of only two mares to bred two Epsom Derby winners: Galileo and Sea The Stars are sons of Urban Sea, the real blue hen.

[@DHEMGHJS]

Mill Reef is my favourite I was there when he won and had a nice bet on him.Nijinsky was as good.My Dad always said Seabird was the best winner he ever saw and he went back to Tulyar etc.Sea Bird beat a class field.Shergar was impressive but I don't think the field was that great.The best horse never to win it would be Dancing Brave imo.

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

Shergar's time of 2.44.2 was one of the slowest ever. I have a nagging feeling that he may simply have been the best of a poor crop.

[@markphillips709]

I'm biased as it was my 1st ever derby bet. Dr Devious 33/1 ante post should have been in there!

[@Seansouth]

What a shame Santa Claus Derby was not shown From last place at Tattenham Corner to first at the line under the maestro Scobie Breasley

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

For my money, Scobie was a better jockey than Lester. He could get more out of a horse with so little use of the whip

[@christopherpace570]

Slip anchor was the best ever derby winner destroyed them from start to finish

[@biggdogg99848]

Why was commander in chiefs win is not in that is a mystery

[@westend2597]

And every single one of them slower than Workforce.

[@kurman4749]

Times are relative. They don't mean a great deal. Secretariat is generally regarded as the greatest American thoroughbred of all time. And yet the times he clocked when winning his American Triple Crown, have been beaten by ordinary horses since.

[@BS-jr3dl]

Couldn't be bothered trawling through all the adverts. Disgrace, mate!

[@cornet959]

Sea The Stars' nephew in human terms, Frankel (sire: Galileo). Carries very good bloodlines but Frankel ((Galileo (Sadlers Wells-Urban Sea). Dam: Kind sired by: Danehill). Frankel carries better bloodlines.

[@RBY349]

where's Workhorse!??

[@Zarkava8]

No one will ever know who the best is because every Derby is different.

[@kurman4749]

Absolutely spot on, my friend. It is all about personal opinions. No one can categorically claim that this horse or that horse is the best.

[@kevinohara1908]

Who would back against frankel against any of these it's a pity he never ran in the derby but he's certainly a breeding success

[@kurman4749]

That is a bit of a vacuous statement. How can you possibly compare a miler with the likes of these Epsom Derby or Arc winners, when Frankel never raced beyond 10 furlongs? I would back quite a few of those winners against Frankel over a mile and a half as they would stretch his stamina to the limit.

[@ramierechristiane]

Frankel n'était qu'un miler. Il aurait été battu par le plus mauvais d'entre eux.

[@harryjananto9766]

Shergar & Lamtarra

[@andrewwilliams4283]

I would put in Workforce as a strong alternative...Camelot... also

[@MILESnomore]

Shergar could have been anything - abs tragedy what happened to him! Sinndar under-rated and he did beat the brilliant Sakhee - two arc winners , back to back.. Nijinksy might be the best horse ever tho ..in UK (Secretariat in the US)

[@kurman4749]

He was well beaten in the St Leger.

[@markhodgkinson6649]

Well the best Derby winner was Sea Bird. After that its becomes tricky. My second would be Mill Reef, with Shergar, and Sea The Stars maybe just ahead of Generous. After that I put Nijinsky in 6th with Reference Point ahead of Galileo. Only 9th would be Golden Fleece with Authorised maybe 10th.

[@alfie4troy]

For me on the flat Shergar , jumps Arkle

[@v.p9699]

Sea Bird the best , shergar , shahrastani

[@kurman4749]

I agree Sea Bird was the best Epsom Derby and Arc winner. Nothing comes close to him in my opinion.

[@thomasucc]

High Chaparral paid my University fees. 500 pounds on the nose for the Derby and Breeders Cup

[@petermcmanus6338]

I had 200 on him anti post. Had a grand back.

[@Nijinsky26]

Reference Point ? He was not even considered to be a great Derby Winner in 1987. What about Tulyar, Royal Palace, The Minstrel, GoldenFleece,... etc.

[@Arazi124]

The Minstrel is in the video.

[@Horichdaslicht1858]

I think Royal Palace was one of the most underrated. Would probably have added the St.Leger to the Guineas& Derby had he been able to run, and as a 4 year old won the Eclipse beating Sir Ivor and the king George & Queen Elizabeth despite breaking down in the final furlong

[@ullapoolharbour]

Yep, Tulyar, Royal Palace, Golden Fleece, plus Relko and New Approach all have claims to be on the list

[@Ped989]

Not my top 20 but enjoyed it all the same.

[@colinclenton7693]

What about Royal Palace, ridden by the great Australian jockey George Moore.

[@frankschlanker]

If Troy had won the Arc then the rest don't even come in to it!!

[@remitablechair]

Lamtarra did win the Arc , and four seconds faster than Troy in the Derby.

[@markhiggins8315]

@@remitablechair Sea the Stars won the Arc and the 2000 guineas, the Eclipse, the Judmont and the Irish Champion stakes all in one year. Won as he liked every time.

[@remitablechair]

@@markhiggins8315 Yes excellent , also win the arc. I just feel Lamtarra's Derby win was one an amazing performance when you consider it was his first run of the season and he broke the track record. Also he was given a lot to do in the King George

[@markhiggins8315]

@@remitablechair It's a shame we only saw so few runs from Lamtarra. We will never know for sure how good he could have been but we saw enough to see he was pretty exceptional.

[@remitablechair]

@@markhiggins8315 Yes Mark , agree with you on that. My Dad , no longer with us, liked a flutter every week for 70 years (illegal pre 1960 something) whenever asked "best horse ever dad " ? Always said hard to say but Sea Bird if pushed. I wish Cecil would have tried Frankel over 1.4

[@manafalmola2634]

sea the stars the greatest

[@michaeljenkins8593]

nashwan or shergar for me

[@katyevans5658]

All great ..but troy....nashwan the best ...shergar great but opposition poor ..look at other horses opposition and what they went on to .nijinski mill reef legends

[@alistairhartley2988]

Shergar rest in peace s

[@barbaradyson6951]

Generous is one rare horse he had a flaxen mane and tail

[@MoniekRedhead]

That's not so rare... It's seen very often...

[@simonhindley65]

Didn't Grundy as well?

[@barbaradyson6951]

@@simonhindley65 yes, since those two super horses won I can't remember seeing another flaxen mane and tail.

[@АлександрН-т2ы]

Galileo - его линия сейчас в Англии является самой лучшей ; его сыновья и внуки сейчас лидеры среди скакунов в Англии .

[@tinasilver2281]

The High Chaperal Derby was shocking, 4 horses were injured with two being put down, Coshockton collapsing and dying near the winning post. Moon Ballad was used as a Godolphin pacemaker, but went on to break the course record at Goodwood subsequently. Even in National Hunt racing, it is unusual to have such injuries in the final furlong.

[@grahamjohnston7395]

No he wasn't. Moon Ballad ran for himself!

[@tinasilver2281]

Moon Ballad was ridden by Jamie Spencer, Frankie Dettori, first jockey to Godolphin rode Naheef.

[@theoriginalscoobiedoo1660]

N.dancer is champion of them all Sire to them all

[@seanmcmanus867]

Lammtarra eh

[@ascott2264]

Masur didn't make it...!? Fuckin robbed.

[@manafalmola2634]

sea the stars and galileo greatest horses in history

[@kevinmartin7606]

When did your history start 15 years ago ?

[@markhiggins8315]

Sea the Stars compares with anything in history but Galileo as brilliant as he was wasn't quite among the very best, not far off though.

[@simonhindley65]

They're both great horses, but neither is quite in the very top tier.

[@RAFAELSANCHEZ-mz5vd]

Shergar the best

[@invisibleman4656]

Sea the stars Sea the stars.....!!! Fed up of hearing his name....only children who have no clue...keep bragging on about sea the stars.....!!!!!!!!!! He wouldn’t even be in my top 20....!!!!!

[@markbosley26]

I agree with what you’re saying. He kept on winning but, for me, he only showed one flash of anything approaching brilliance, and that was in the Arc..Most of the other Derby winners shown here would’ve beaten him on the day.

[@dannyeldergolf]

You're joking yeah? Just because he doesn't win by far doesn't mean he isn't a great! Aidan o'Brien threw everything apart from the kitchen sink at sea the stars to try and beat him and couldn't do it! His 3 year old year will go down as one of, if not the best 3 year old years in history. He only ever did enough to win by a length. Mick kinane has sat on some of the greats including Galileo, montjeu, rock of Gibraltar and high chaparral and he said sea the stars was the best he had ridden. I think he probably knows a bit more than you

[@wa6280]

It doesn't matter how far they win it's the races they win that matters

[@markhiggins8315]

You obviously no jack about horses. Sea the Stars won the 200 guineas, the Derby, Eclipse, Judmont, Irish champion stakes and the Arc in one season. No horse has ever had a classic season as good. He never won by less than a length, always in control. Mick Kinane who road some great horses - said he was on another level to all the others. I think he knows a bit more than you.

[@markhiggins8315]

@@markbosley26 Nonsense, he won as he liked like only a great horse can. Never won by less than a length in control of the race. His classic season is unmatched. 2000 guineas, Derby, Eclipse, Judmont, Irish champion stakes and the Arc. You seriously need to think again if you think you know anything about horses.

[@lyndseychadwick7503]

Henbit the year after shergar 10 secs quicker

[@ゴッホネオ]

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