Bonus Drive Thru: Jim Cornette on Starrcade '86 & Scaffold Matches

[@erronblack1]

Jim is one of the few guys in wrestling who can tell a story for the millionth time and make it interesting.

[@garyk6079]

So true Cornette is the man, one of my fav wrestling personalities of all time. I never really cared for any of the scaffold matches. The build to this match was awesome though.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

And I will listen to it a million times and always be entertained!

[@sharkbait8090]

"Jimmy you fell so fast!"

[@madringking1119]

NO FUCKING SHIT!!

[@mymneisadj]

how did I hate this guy so much when I was a kid and love him so much now

[@seansmith2819]

dj johnson fCuz he was a great f'n heel. Lol

[@tiatrips]

He did his job when he was managing then.

[@snakeman6124]

Cause he did his job 😊❤

[@paulsydenham7853]

Because he was the guy you loved to hate,Best of All Time, could listen to him all day 😃.

[@russstiles4308]

I used to cuss at my house when he was on my TV

[@ronodell2935]

Cornette is the best. Can listen to this dude for hours. And believe everything he talks about.

[@KeitaroYevon]

Bubba was high as a kite that night and that was the reason he didn't catch Jim.

[@Vikashar]

"Both of you fell so fast Jim"

[@mackmcgowan316]

Never understood the popularity of a scaffold match in the early days tbh but that's just me

[@SonnyBubba]

The heels drew so much heat back then the fans were literally paying for the possibility of seeing one of them get thrown off one of those things.

[@Ramekink]

The first hell in a cell came to be in the late 90s (HBK vs Taker in '97) so up until then there weren't any other instances of taking a bump from that high up BESIDES cage matches, but even then there's just so many ways you can produce a bump like that: 1) Shaking/tackling the cage while your opponent is sitting on top leg spread/as they're holding onto the ledge; or 2) Back and forth fist fighting while sitting on top till one of them drops dead. Whereas with scaffold matches there were multiple other ways to take a bump, be it like the midnights and corny on this match or taking a body back drop, etc

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

I was fortunate to see the Skywalkers match live in Philly Jan 1987. I ordered the Starcade 86 shirt and wore it that night.. Part of me wished I still had it but I sold it for $325. That Thanksgiving was HORRIBLE because it was the first time since 1979 my beloved Cowboys lost on Turkey day. The Road Warriors SAVED that day.

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Yeah bruh the only thing better than $325 is having something you know is worth that having it in good condition and keeping it, I have a white zombie t-shirt that goes for $200 now on “Grailed” lol its soo faded too 🤣

[@Loverrover]

Saw them do a scaffold match a the municipal auditorium in Columbus,Ga. Cornette stayed on the floor for that one.

[@hendel213126]

I barely remember going to a wrestling show at the Municipal Auditorium in Columbus, GA. I was probably 8 years old and my family was living in Columbus at the time.

[@deejprice3049]

As a wrestling fan who grew up in the 80s, I could only imagine being stuck in an elevator for 8 hours with just one other person: Jim Cornette. That would be the best day of my life

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Unless you’re an AEW fan..

[@ltrain4479]

According to Animal, Hawk and Boss Man got super high before the match and that probably contributed to him not catching Cornette.

[@chrischar9428]

Bullshit

[@knight2000-NC]

think you can do it kid? "Yeaaaaaaa"

[@brodocbetty4856]

Can't tell me guy didn't love the business, I would have never done that kind of match.

[@Ramekink]

RIP Beautiful Bobby Eaton

[@j_mad]

Jimmy you fell so fast OMG 🤣🤣🤣

[@jusbertmeza4424]

NO FUCKING SHIT 😹

[@johnnymason2460]

I remember that here in Memphis we had a scaffold match with Jerry Lawler and Bill Dundee vs Austin Idol and Tommy Rich. I believe that Paul Heyman took a bump in that match.

[@deadaccount7520]

you take my 50℅ chance at winning add his 30% chance of winning. Then multiple that by a 16 ft scaffold. subtract a 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time world heavyweight title. You end up with dozens AND DOZENS of Mick Foley fans.

[@kingrama27]

dead account Scott Steiner?

[@wescollins2981]

Adds up to me

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Equals 66 2/3 chance of being a Hardcore Legend

[@hollowarkangel]

bro you forgot to add KURT angle into the mix which means the chances of mick foley fans drastic go down

[@whidoineedthis]

@@tobiasfarragut292 i love how all us wrestling fans know EXACTLY how cool that comment was. nWo 4👈

[@jmb01550]

I think the one with Cleveland was Baby Doll was in Cornette's place

[@alberthenley2988]

Damn, I ain't know Big Bubba was back with Cornette on the end of 87 because I remember Bubba was with General Akbar for a minute and won the Uwf belt from One Man Gang. So I forgot he was back with them.

[@jeffreyriley8742]

That still shot is from the end of the Midnight/Rock and Roll Scaffold match from Starrcade 87.

[@jrsmith3344]

Jeffrey Riley Ha! Thanks for pointing that out. I kept thinking, none of those guys in the pic look like one of the Road Warriors, but it's so small on my phone, I figured it was just me

[@seangoodwin3046]

As to why Bill Dundee loves Scaffold Matches, when Superstar was young he, like Cary Grant, actually ran away from home and joined the circus. Billy was a trapeze artist before becoming a star. That would explain the ramrod posture for each. There is a picture of Billy next to a circus elephant from 1962 out there somewhere. Bill would have been maybe 19.

[@chriswarfield7520]

Gotta see that Eaton backdrop picture.

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

Watched this the other day on the WWE network. That cringe-inducing vignette with Magnum TA running on the beach was the only crap moment in what was otherwise a great event.

[@tobiasfarragut292]

Well you gotta keep regular..gotta have a crap moment 🧻🚽

[@Ramekink]

We weren't Magnum TA's demo you know? Same as for the Rock n Roll and their clones. They were all for the ladies

[@cmm98]

Saw this last night midnight express vs road warriors looked like it hurt alot ouch 😵😵😵

[@thecakemoney8667]

that promo video was funny!

[@Lantern72]

The Starcade 87 match shouldve been rnr/mx in a cage. Only because- the previous 2 starcades- the rnr were in cage matches. Plus- throughout their rivalry- the 2 teams havnt really done the cage just 2 on 2. Going back over the years lookin at houseshow match results- there werent many, if any cage matches. I THINK i read about 1. Chi town heat couldve been a triple cage event.

[@scottspencer6036]

Definitely didn't know this match was the reason we got the Big Boss Man

[@garyk6079]

I wouldn't say this is the match that introduced boss man. He wrestled some great great matches as Big Bubba.

[@electricdevil2422]

It was the catalyst for Bubba to look for a new job and that's how he got a job with WWF and when he got the Boss Man gimmick.

[@chrischar9428]

@@garyk6079 not what he said

[@growing.grounds4054]

I never seen him cornette before yourtube 3 months ago I just watched his promos from back then an this situation... It's shocking the slight difference from young Cornett to old lol

[@MrDinghus]

Really didn't like these matches. I know they drew some money at times (especially in Memphis where I believe the scaffolds were a bit lower just as Jim points out those of Mid-South were, and I think the first time JCP ran them at this Starrcade they helped that show turn a nice profit) but it was a gimmick that led to bad matches because the guys couldn't move or really do anything and then the fall was so severe that lots of guys ended up getting hurt badly.

[@MaxxCoyote]

Yeah, I've never got the appeal either. Its basically impossible to have a good match, and I've never seen one that didn't suck. I guess you would have had to have been there. Give me a cage match any day of the week.

[@Ramekink]

I mean back in the day wrestling cards were developed in a way that there would be a little bit of everything throughout the show: Some upper midcard grudge matches, some high spot matches, some scientific wrestling matches, some brawl only matches, some milking the crowd only matches, a gimmick finish, etc. The whole show was booked to highlight the current and future main eventers. And the rest were moved around in a way that it didnt damage those main shows.

[@jgfear]

Was I was a kid I always thought that “ scaffold matches “ were cool, but course now I realize that the whole concept is stupid as fuck.

[@fatalsniper3413]

Yeah funny how Jim doesn't mention this. Garbage matches have always existed

[@durden2480]

That scaffold match at Halloween havoc with PN News is fucking terrible. Even with Bobby and Steve Austin in it

[@chrischar9428]

Great American bash

[@cmm98]

Bubba missed catching cornette

[@thecakemoney8667]

midnight express can't win a scaffold match!

[@RevolutionRicky]

Starrcade starts with a Tone Deaf Tim Horner match? Thank God he didn't sing

[@darrinh.2322]

here is the "training" video enjoy !!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ7QfWZrrZp1ga8

[@ricstormwolf]

Dumbest freaking match idea I've ever seen. They should never have happened.

[@brucewhite360]

🎾🤓

[@NintendoPsycho]

#CancelWWENetwork

[@ahmeddemha6112]

Jason Hogan You can just let your subscription lapse.

[@ahmeddemha6112]

BC Phil Well if anything the painful eventuality of where all these angles,matches, and bad management are going to lead. But that's my personal assessment can't say the same for the "Vince killed wrestling" or "Won't push my favorite wrestler" contingent.

[@tobiasfarragut292]

For what..so we have NO CHOICE but to watch that Empty arena Screen faced thunder dome bullshit ....my guess is you really enjoyed the mimosa Mayhem

[@thecaliforniabruh1158]

Jim SUCKS at scaffold matches!

[@ChickenParmesan45]

Trump 2020

[@exnihilo4547]

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