Arcane Episode 9 | Jinx's Tea Party 3/4 | Caitlyn breaks free

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Hell breaks loose
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@joenap17
@joenap17 2 жыл бұрын
I was afraid they'd ruin Silco's character by have him go "muhahaha it was all an act I never loved you Jinx" in the final episode. It's refreshing that he really did love Jinx and was willing to put everything on the line for her, even comforting her as he died. While I'm sad he's gone, I think this was a fitting ending for his character and will miss him greatly. Silco is the best animated villain to come along in quite a long time.
@gracecalis5421
@gracecalis5421 2 жыл бұрын
He gave me maaad Dracula vibes man. Both extremely conflicted individuals, and ultimately the undoing of their entire cause and their lives was the unconditional love they both harbored for their child.
@theeinertia4106
@theeinertia4106 2 жыл бұрын
Silco have cared for his companions since the beginning , he even tried to recruit vander despite everything but in the end did the same choice as vander
@KryptonKr
@KryptonKr 2 жыл бұрын
@@theeinertia4106 he takes loyalty seriously and it shows
@ThreeGoddesses
@ThreeGoddesses 2 жыл бұрын
Its a really twisted kind of love. He doesnt love who she is, only who she became after all his meddling and manipulation.
@drewguardo
@drewguardo 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I 100% agree, and the really awesome thing about him is he's not even really a villain, everthing he does makes a lot of sense and he deffinatly sees himself as the good guy fighting for the undercity. Awesome show, looking forward to more.
@andersondawn3631
@andersondawn3631 2 жыл бұрын
Theory: The whispers Jinx hears that make her stop crying and go numb are Silco. He’s joined the voices in her head.
@narcisoferreira9976
@narcisoferreira9976 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but he probably became the prominent voice in her head and instead of tormenting her like the other voices do his might actually try to push her further into the jinx side of things and help her become the jinx we see in league of legends.
@Change-your-username
@Change-your-username 2 жыл бұрын
@@narcisoferreira9976 Oh, that's genius!
@someotherworldlybeing3167
@someotherworldlybeing3167 2 жыл бұрын
Ya almost everyone she’s killed becomes a voice in her head
@Cosmicmorales
@Cosmicmorales 2 жыл бұрын
@@Change-your-username fr
@Meshhopp
@Meshhopp 2 жыл бұрын
@@someotherworldlybeing3167 the people she kills by accident
@helendun8157
@helendun8157 2 жыл бұрын
When her eyes go blank after crying for Silco, I think it's because Silco became another one of the voices in her head. You could theorize that her trauma now also comes from being Jinx and not just when she was Powder.
@vyna_mel5726
@vyna_mel5726 2 жыл бұрын
damn poor jinx she's got trauma coming from everywhere now. she cant be anything other than crazy.
@yourmom66600
@yourmom66600 2 жыл бұрын
That explains the faint whispers before she stood up
@darkphoenix1836
@darkphoenix1836 2 жыл бұрын
No, Silco's death completely broke her. She could have killed Caitlyn, but she felt nothing but emptiness. Those eyes were dead.
@tommier5210
@tommier5210 2 жыл бұрын
She dissociated.
@condes9188
@condes9188 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jinx could not kill Caitlyn anymore... Vi has choosen her, so killing the girl would hurt a lot her sister and nothing would change, Jinx most think that Vi has someone to care now, so she can be forgotten. Thats hurts even more.
@cbmazo9229
@cbmazo9229 2 жыл бұрын
“You’re perfect….” AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN
@Makyna-bp1us
@Makyna-bp1us 2 жыл бұрын
I felt that in my heart.
@randomfandomcreator2376
@randomfandomcreator2376 2 жыл бұрын
This is both hilarious and painful...
@webo__zaid6358
@webo__zaid6358 2 жыл бұрын
Seconds Later: PPPP-PENTAKILL
@janinebelleestrada7096
@janinebelleestrada7096 2 жыл бұрын
@@webo__zaid6358 more like "SHUTDOWN"
@crimsonnick4843
@crimsonnick4843 2 жыл бұрын
Not even funny it just hurt deep lol
@samuelbrancaglion1592
@samuelbrancaglion1592 2 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed was that Vi and Powder/Jinx sees their friends and family differently. When Vi sees vander during her fight, it is as a source of strength pushing her even further, like and anime flashback. For Jinx it is trauma, faces in the dark, her inner demons personified and in her mind they are out for her, to make her pay for what she did. So calling them, trying to make Jinx go back to being powder is not really the best idea.
@LordangeloxD
@LordangeloxD 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is because she accidentally killed them, which is different from your anime bullshit (because usually in anime family members are killed by the villain, and that’s what makes the protagonist goal in life to kill the villain and remembering the family makes them stronger)
@samuelbrancaglion1592
@samuelbrancaglion1592 2 жыл бұрын
@@LordangeloxD Exactly! Vi was hoping for the cliche to work but inadvertetly confirmed her greatest fear: Powder, my sweet innocent sister who couldn't hurt a fly, is now dead. Now only Jinx exist in the insanity that is her mind. That is why when Jinx goes to shoot the rocket, Vi wants to scream "Powder! No! This is not you! Please, you don't have to do this!" but she can't because she blames herself for this happening to her sister.
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelbrancaglion1592 The blame should solely be on Silco and Jinx herself… atp she’s old enough and is just doing this because she wants to. Vi should focus on herself now.. Jinx is far too gone and will become a liability that Vi would have to look after constantly. Powder isn’t gone… she saved Vi when she killed Silco.
@David-th6hj
@David-th6hj 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie ajjaa pero también vi tuvo culpa nmmss
@samuelbrancaglion1592
@samuelbrancaglion1592 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie I think so too. I'm just saying that is how Vi feels. Of course is not her fault. But imagine the situation where you curse your baby sister after a traumatic event and is gone for years. Then when you return you see her acting in self-destructive manner and calling herself the "slur" you cursed her with. Vi feels like that even though she shouldn't. Arcane made incredible that we don't have anyone to completely lay the blame for what happened to Powder. Vi abandon her, Silco manipulated her and Jinx killed her.
@amberlewis561
@amberlewis561 2 жыл бұрын
When Vi says "it's okay." after Silco dies really cemented Jinx in her point of no return. That little innocent "it's okay" was truly devastating, because although Vi ment it with good intentions as a way to resasure her sister. Jinx could tell it was insincere. Because she knew Vi couldn't care less about Silco, so of course it would be okay to Vi. But for Jinx, she had just killed the one person who loved her the way Vi did when she was Powder, but as Jinx. And also she in that same moment she came to the conclusion that Vi would never be able to love her that same way she used to because all Vi wanted was Powder and all Jinx has to offer is Jinx. To be Powder again she'd have to sacrifice being Jinx all together and that's a pretty big ask.
@juliogomesdesouza9035
@juliogomesdesouza9035 2 жыл бұрын
Funny because Silco also says "it's okay" to Jinx after Vi leaves her. But his was 100% sincere.
@kevinhoublon8630
@kevinhoublon8630 2 жыл бұрын
I understand your point but I think Vi was sincere. She saw in Silco's last moments with Jinx, that he really cared for her, and that they had a true father/daughter relationship. When Vander, her second father, died due to Powder's mistakes, Vi was so outraged she said horrible things to Powder and turn her back on her on the moment, which, as a result, turned Powder into Jinx (but Powder was still inside like we could see it when they first meet years after). Here, The history repeats itself :Jinx killed Silco, her third father who, like Vander, truly cared about her. This time, Violet did what she should have done for Powder, she tried to console her and told her everything will be okay. I think she wanted to be there for her and do things right this time. However, after suffering rejection from Vi in the past, after giving her the chance to chose between her or Caitlin (even if it was twisted) and see she still couldn't chose her, she fully embrace the Jinx side because although Silco was a ruthless crime lord, he fully accepted Powder over everything else, and would have given up on his ambitions, waged war and massacred the entire Government of Piltover while Vi couldn't kill a single person. When Vi and Jinx first met, Jinx told her, "Powder fell down on a wall". Latter, Jinx invited her to kill Caitlin so she can have Powder back. Jinx couldn't become Powder without Vi's help. I think by her words, Vi wanted to help Powder to get out of the well.
@yvonnekavithe6247
@yvonnekavithe6247 2 жыл бұрын
Now I understand "you'll never love me like you used to" Was kinda confused cuz I still thought Vi loved her the same more than ever Having to come back to a completely different version of your sister and still chasing her back, I thought was amazing But it's true isn't it? She'll never loved her as Jinx the same
@cw1345
@cw1345 2 жыл бұрын
Even so, she was willing to protect her sister without the blink of an eye when Silco picked up the gun to shoot her. As much as she chose to be Jinx in the end, you also see that her love for Vi means more than anything or anyone.
@marrymejisoo3413
@marrymejisoo3413 2 жыл бұрын
@@cw1345 nah she just went crazy that time and accidentally hit Silco
@michaelroque2662
@michaelroque2662 2 жыл бұрын
You know what I really love about this scene, but also really saddens me. Is that it shows how Vi doesn’t understand how Powder is hurt. It really captures how people react to mentally illness in the real world. To me it’s clear that Vi truly loves Powder, and there isn’t anything that Jinx can do that would change that. Vi wants so desperately to have her sister back and thinks she can do it by reminding her about their family, Vi truly thinks she is helping her, but doesn’t understand that those memories are her pain and her trauma. She doesn’t understand that she’s hurting her. Vi doesn’t understand that Powder is hurt in a away that she just can’t help her. She thinks she can still chase the monsters away, but doesn’t understand that those memories she clings too are Powders monsters, her guilt, her pain, her trauma. Vi doesn’t understand that to Jinx, Powder is the monster. That’s why I think Powder, said you’ve changed too. No matter how much Jinx wants Vi back, she thinks she can never have her. Because she knows that Vi doesn’t understand her anymore. She knows that Vi can’t chase her monsters away anymore. And blowing up the capital was her final attempt to sever that connection with her sister, because she feels that if her sister can’t save her then she can save Vi. By forcing Vi to give up on her.
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
Vi was locked away for years… Mylo, Clogger and Vander were their family…she wants her sister to remember that. She has no idea that Powder suffers with the voices in her head because she’s been gone all those years holding onto hope. They’ve both experienced trauma not just Jinx…Vi is just mentally stronger.
@michaelroque2662
@michaelroque2662 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie I don’t think that Vi is mentally stronger then Powder, yes Vi has trauma too, the fight scene between her and Siveca really shows that. The quick cuts of her drinking and pacing around mirror Jinx’s mental state throughout the act 2 and 3, it show that Vi is spiraling out of control too. Just compare Vi seeing Vander To Powder see Vander. Vi’s is warm and lifting her up and Powders is monsteras and bring her down. The difference between the too sisters is that Vi thinks that it’s her fault and Jinx knows that it isn’t. Yes both sisters have lost and had trauma. But Powder lit the bomb. They have both lost their family, but losing someone doesn’t compare to knowing in your heart that caused their deaths. Vi suffered from her choices but Powder Broke from hers.
@michaelroque2662
@michaelroque2662 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie I also want to clarify that I’m not trying to dismiss Vi’s trauma, on the contrary I feel for her just as munch as Powder. I don’t want to presume your journey or want you been through, it not my place to do so. But I know Vi’s trauma and I know Powder’s, I’ve felt them both. The biggest struggle for both of them is that Vi open up to Powder, I mean really open up. And Powder’s is learning to forgive herself. I’m hoping that they reconcile in the future, as soon as possible, but it won’t be easy for them, because Vi has a support system, Caitlin, Ekko, other friends from Zaun, but Powder doesn’t. She only has Vi, which is hard for her because of all the complicated feels she has for her. It not easy when the only person you can support on is the same person your trauma is connected too. That’s one small part of what Powder is going through. That’s why I’m I can’t wait for Lux and Yasuo and the cat and robot (who’s names I don’t know) I don’t know if those Wild Rift commercials are canon, but I like to think that they are and that at some point Powder will find her Support group. Sorry for talking your ear off,
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelroque2662 I totally understand and agree with you to an extent. I should say that I feel Vi channels her trauma in a less destructive way… she still fights yes but she doesn’t kill innocent people just because she can. Jinx is clearly unstable and I know Vi being her sister has made mistakes but she’s trying make up for them… Jinx is just too far gone for that to happen. I want reconciliation but according to the lore that may not ever happen.
@artfaist
@artfaist 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie they could change it a bit for the show I think Vi will always care for jinx/powder whoever. They will have their sister moments always but in a different way than normal sisters so it works out 😭 🤷🏽‍♀️
@Voldago
@Voldago 2 жыл бұрын
It's really a brilliant callback to the scene where Vi tells Caitlyn she used to chase the monsters away to protect her sister, and implied Silco was a monster. Now she is the one making the monsters bigger, while Silco is trying to chase them away. If you look at the pacing of the scene, it even seems that Silco is shooting at the monsters, and after he does they disappear forever. It's like he sacrificed himself so his daughter could be free forever from her monsters, and he succeeded.
@justchay7095
@justchay7095 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit
@jonhathaway2537
@jonhathaway2537 2 жыл бұрын
totally wrong lol.
@shinkai9kami162
@shinkai9kami162 2 жыл бұрын
And that’s why jinx said she’s changed
@yuu3769
@yuu3769 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonhathaway2537 ?
@carrastealth
@carrastealth 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he was just trying to kill Vi because she threatened his hold on Jinx. In the end, Jinx killed the real monster and was the one that protected her sister this time, and then Jinx became her own monster herself after.
2 жыл бұрын
Vi doesn't understand that "Powder, Milo, Claggo, Vander", all of those names in the past is what hurts Jinx. Jinx has been trying to tell Vi that she has changed and wanted her sister to accept and love her as who she is now, NOT who she was. Silco is the only one who truly gets that. He doesn't want Jinx to be tormented by the past, the childhood trauma or anything that related to Vi's action any more. He wants Jinx to be herself because Jinx is "perfect" in her own way. Vi will never get that, at least not until much later.
@cat062
@cat062 2 жыл бұрын
To an extent I can see where Vi is coming from. Due to Silo being an opposition of her father figure an the guy have killed men women and children with no remorse prior. Being in incarcerated or confined can make your confined in your own thoughts and concerns for a long time. Confinement is a good place to get stagnant and not prepare for what you'll see once your out. I do find Silo is a caring father-figure but not a good father-figure. In Powder's period of distress he was handed all of what Jinx needs to make an arsenal for mass destruction. Basically giving her destructive habits for which Silo have to cover the reprussions for. It's kind of similar to starting someone on medication that turns addictive that they feel a need for more supplements for which some of their friends and/or family would supply their addiction. Parents would similar to Silo would enable destructive habits sometimes even to the point their kid(s) cause harm or do worse to them or others either until they die or they not longer can bail them out.
@RazorTooths
@RazorTooths 2 жыл бұрын
What I love about this is that Silco was the only one who gets it because ultimately, he was one of the biggest factors Jinx became who she is. I do feel he did love her, but to an extent, he sort of molded Jinx to what he wanted her to be (maybe not completely as alluded by Jinx when she said that she became Jinx by herself, but I assume she got a lot of guidance from Silco). I don't doubt that in the end Silco did care for her legitimately, which is an amazing arc for him.
@m0Njx3
@m0Njx3 2 жыл бұрын
I mean Vi and Jinx only interact like maybe 5mins? First time was Ekko interuping. And Second, which is also the last time they really talked is this. How can Vi knows all these? She literally in jail for 6-8years.
@cat062
@cat062 2 жыл бұрын
@@m0Njx3 yeah lot of people who are in confinement after so long can be pretty out of touch with things.
@BeanSprouts02
@BeanSprouts02 2 жыл бұрын
@@cat062 FINALLY. YES. We get it, Silco cares for Jinx. Truly. But he’s also pushing her to be more self-destructive and destructive to everyone and everything else overall. On the other hand, Vi wants her to stop being that. I also have no doubt that Vi would still love her 100% and more even if she stays as Jinx. It’s the killing other people and stuff that Vi wants her to stop doing. It makes up a large part of Jinx but honestly what kind of sister would Vi be to just let her do that again and again?? So tbh, since killing other ppl and destroying things is a large part of who Jinx is (as ive already mentioned before), I don’t know if they’d be able to make up properly anymore. P.S. I apologize if I don’t sound coherent I’m high on emotions rn coz of how frustrated I am of the ppl blaming Vi
@JavelinAngel1295
@JavelinAngel1295 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I wanna still hold on to an ounce of hope that Vi can get Powder back, this really was Jinx's point of no return.
@chrispellbois6498
@chrispellbois6498 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly dont want powder back , jinx is what made arcane so darn good :o
@cancerconnoisseur
@cancerconnoisseur 2 жыл бұрын
This is where powder dies forever, and the mad terrorist jinx is truly born
@sabotaje4174
@sabotaje4174 2 жыл бұрын
I also was hoping for Powder to come back. I loved Jinx personality on cinematics, but I didn't knew her story is so tragic and dark.
@SaraBethCox
@SaraBethCox 2 жыл бұрын
Powder will never come back fully and Vi needs to accept that. Jinx can still care like Powder but still be jinx who loves blowing things up and is “crazy”
@JavelinAngel1295
@JavelinAngel1295 2 жыл бұрын
She's not crazy. Just broken.
@marvache9652
@marvache9652 2 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting to me that the very same people Vi tells Jinx to remember are her triggers but Vi doesn't get it. To Vi, they lift her up (just like when Vander appeared to her in a fight with Sevika), and she so desperately wants Powder back that she doesn't see that it's hurting her.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
With all due respect to the character, Vi isn't intelligent enough to see that. She cannot grasp the extent of Jinx's madness, the reason for her drastic change. She thinks she can say "I forgive you" and it sets things back to normal.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediados Intelligent isn't the word here. More like emotional intelligence: it's about empathy and understanding. It's not about regular intelligence here. Many people are smart or clever but lack emotional intelligence/emotional quotient to understand the trauma or pain of others. They can sympathize but it's truly difficult to empathize when your former loving sister has become a sociopath. It's understandable that Vi doesn't get it.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.n.3372 I'd say it's a mix of both. You need intellect to understand the psychology behind her damage, but also empathy to understand what she feels like
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mediados It's not intellect that allows you to understand the psychology behind it, as I've said before. Psychologist and psychiatrist aren't geniuses who understand things that dumb people cannot xD that gives them way too much credit lol. Anybody watching Arcane can understand this much because we are the audience. The reason that Vi doesn't understand is because she's in the show, and she can't view it from the outside perspective that we do. Vi views Vander and the friends as sources of inspiration. She doesn't understand that they are triggers for Jinx and her PTSD. Meanwhile, you and I can understand this, but I am not a psychologist and you probably aren't either. Yet, we understand it because we saw Powder and her trauma and can thus understand it from a psychological perspective as the viewer. We have the advantage that Vi doesn't: we have an outside perspective.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
@@l.n.3372 Oh now I see what you mean. Yes I hadn't considered perspective.
@sirsiver
@sirsiver 2 жыл бұрын
Before, we didn't understand the weird relationship between Silco and Jinx and if he was just manipolating her to fight his war, but at the end he showed his true emotions and man, when you feel bad for a villain you know he's been made damn right
@MeDicenPacho
@MeDicenPacho 2 жыл бұрын
nono, when you hate a villian is when you know he's been made right. silco was a monster tho
@lucifeers3219
@lucifeers3219 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he didn't turn out to be a typical, CEO villain that stands on top, manipulating everything and caring for no one. However, as time went by I realized that he has a human side too.
@sirsiver
@sirsiver 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucifeers3219 yep that's why i love villains like this, it remind me to Meruem from HxH, both are presented like the typical bad guy, but in reality they have much more depth on it, when you can undestand and emphitize them you know that it's a nicely write villain
@DarkSol16
@DarkSol16 2 жыл бұрын
He definitely was more than manipulating her to fight his war even from ACT 2. There were multiple times when Jinx went off and did her own thing, potentially causing problems and being a hindrance as Savika tells him multiple times, but every time, Silco defended her. The only time he got angry was when Jinx went and killed enforcers on top side, but he let it go when Jinx showed him the complete hex crystal and even when Jayce asked for Jinx in exchange for allowing Zaun independence, he took responsibility for Jinx saying he ordered her to do it so it was his fault, when it was actually her going off doing her own thing.
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 2 жыл бұрын
Are they really villains, though? To me it feels like they're just people doing whatever it takes just to survive.
@snoovian7951
@snoovian7951 2 жыл бұрын
I like how they had a toxic relationship, but he still loved Jinx. This wasn't a ohh I'm using you all for power, but a situation where he genuinely cared but didn't do what Jinx needed and inadvertently harmed her more. Of course, he was still a villain, but he wasn't the stereotypical loveless monster.
@BeanSprouts02
@BeanSprouts02 2 жыл бұрын
This, I can agree with
@ashyneko
@ashyneko 2 жыл бұрын
someone who gets it!
@hi-there-
@hi-there- 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashyneko Literally everyone gets it. I haven’t seen a single person who genuinely hates Silco.
@ashyneko
@ashyneko 2 жыл бұрын
@@hi-there- same here! i meant people who unironically think they are in a wholesome father-daughter relationship. there was a LOT of that on twitter back when it came out. great villain though miss him x
@keytra6291
@keytra6291 2 жыл бұрын
Silco genuinely loved Jinx, but it was only inevitable that a damaged and traumatized man with unhealthy coping mechanisms running a mafia would do more damage than good to a little girl’s psyche
@seanathanw2509
@seanathanw2509 2 жыл бұрын
“I’d never would have given you them… not for anything… don’t cry, you’re perfect”. That hit different af!!! Powder has been through ALOT, and the only person that saw powder for powder was Silco.
@gsomslayer
@gsomslayer 2 жыл бұрын
no he saw her for jinx
@carrastealth
@carrastealth 2 жыл бұрын
Vi saw Powder for Powder, Silco saw what he felt was his creation that he controlled.
@gsomslayer
@gsomslayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@carrastealth exactly
@yoursonisold8743
@yoursonisold8743 2 жыл бұрын
He was so supportive... by lying to her, telling her to ignore her trauma, mentally caging her and telling her she is perfect when she clearly has many flaws that need fixing. That is not a loving father, that's a desperate manipulator.
@gsomslayer
@gsomslayer 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoursonisold8743 you nailed it silco really loved her unconditionally but a healthy dad? he never was
@anasunra
@anasunra 3 ай бұрын
That happy sigh Jinx makes in 0:57 when Vi says: "She is my sister" makes my heart hurt 🥲
@keytra6291
@keytra6291 2 жыл бұрын
The small nod Silco makes after saying “You’re my daughter” as if in confirmation of the truth of his statement. The body language in this show is impeccable!
@yourmom66600
@yourmom66600 2 жыл бұрын
Silco's smile when he says "you're perfect." makes me cry all the time
@rng5174
@rng5174 2 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@LaughingGasFunny
@LaughingGasFunny 2 жыл бұрын
Even though, I usually side with the Good Guys in pretty much every story ever, I was a HUGE fan of Silco in Arcane. He went from going to kill Jinx early on, to him not even having the heart to bat an eyelash if it meant her feeling bad.
@deno.j9855
@deno.j9855 2 жыл бұрын
it makes you even cry harder when you realize that Silco was relieved that he didn't lose Jinx. Jinx lost Silco but he never lost her and he is so relieved that he will never know what it feels like to lose Jinx. Probably that's why he was so calm while he was dying
@angelicahernandez9379
@angelicahernandez9379 2 жыл бұрын
FR😭😭
@anashe11
@anashe11 2 жыл бұрын
@@deno.j9855 true especially since he almost lost her earlier in the series, found her half dead on the bridge and ran frantic for help to save her
@warningdeadinside2537
@warningdeadinside2537 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else noticed how when Vi says, "She's my sister" (0:55) Jinx looks over at her and smiles a bit. And then, at 2:43 you can see Jinx has 2 specks of lights in her eyes. But at 2:56, when she opens them again after crying for Silco, her eyes become duller as she loses one of those lights. I thought that these were neat little details.
@d.akasun
@d.akasun 2 жыл бұрын
@1:38 I love this scene. Vi thinks she’s helping by having Jinx remember her past family members but these are also miserable points to Powder’s life that she wants to escapes from.
@NostalgiaArtist
@NostalgiaArtist 2 жыл бұрын
damn the way she was on edge and shot blindly out of panic is too real.. sometimes trauma/ptsd will make you hurt people in ways you never meant to, you're just acting on pure instinct in the moment :(
@ehidunno9737
@ehidunno9737 2 жыл бұрын
That moment of Jinx putting her hands up and giving the innocent doe expression and then turning into the sadistic smile was so well done. The expressions in this show are off the charts
@leyrua
@leyrua 2 жыл бұрын
I know, holy crap this scene was a masterpiece.
@Sadaaaaf
@Sadaaaaf Жыл бұрын
And her eye going purple to scarlet
@Betroid
@Betroid Жыл бұрын
She had galeforce
@denboix7524
@denboix7524 Жыл бұрын
It was extremely hot
@xo-novacane6442
@xo-novacane6442 2 жыл бұрын
I think Silcos reason to try and shoot vi was him trying to stop her from hurting Jinx. Jinx suffers PTSD from hearing powder and her friends names which is clear whenever the names are said and the graphics of monsters start appearing. It never happens when she's called jinx. When Vi is calling her powder and naming off all of the people she inadvertently killed you can see it is doing nothing but harming her making the monsters grow in her head basically feeding her insanity. Vi talks about the symbolism of her chasing away the monsters in a previous episode but this time she's responsible for making them grow whenever she calls out the names and isn't there to chase them away. Silco understood this which makes me think out of the both of them Silco was really the one maintaining what sanity she had left. He specifically wanted powder to be gone because that name did nothing but bring her pain.
@ragnarstark4887
@ragnarstark4887 2 жыл бұрын
Yea makes sense he tried to help Jinx by killing her sister.Makes totally sense is not like Jinx would go rampage if she saw her sister getting killed and would have more trauma.Yoo for real you people are this stupid or just want attention cant tell.He literally wanted to kill Vi bcs he was selfish Bastard.He knew that Jinx would always choose Vi over him it wouldnt even be close.
@claggor1070
@claggor1070 2 жыл бұрын
But it would make her more insane right?!
@xo-novacane6442
@xo-novacane6442 2 жыл бұрын
@@ragnarstark4887 the only one who’s stupid is you getting worked up over an opinion of a show. Second off had you been right she would’ve stayed with Vi after killing Silco on accident. Powder had the strongest connection with Vi. Jinx is way more connected to Silco for the fact he raised her and even with her being crazy accepted her while Vi was trying to cling onto powder. Which is perfectly fine for her case but sadly that wasn’t the truth of who she was anymore
@xo-novacane6442
@xo-novacane6442 2 жыл бұрын
@@ragnarstark4887 and yes I totally want attention from someone who can’t even frame a sentence out properly
@xo-novacane6442
@xo-novacane6442 2 жыл бұрын
@@claggor1070 it’s a double edged sword either way it happened she was going to go insane either from Vi or from Killing Silco. Vi was trying her hardest to help but she just didn’t understand she was causing more pain for her by bringing up her trauma while Silco understood powder had to go for her to stop feeling the pain. I’m not justifying his route of trying to kill Vi but in that moment Silco was the equivalent of a father seeing someone hurting his daughter and tried to kill that person. Again not justifying it because people can’t read and for some reason get crazy when you give an opinion over a show
@tommyml4619
@tommyml4619 2 жыл бұрын
Silco died the way he lived, no letting no one to talk shit about his daughter. Was quite obvious he was going to die, but man, the way Riot made it... was perfect.
@falseprophet4927
@falseprophet4927 Жыл бұрын
Different team worked on the show! Riot just helped publish this masterpiece by Fortiche.
@DLxxx
@DLxxx Жыл бұрын
No one was talking shit about Jinx here... Vi was literally trying to keep her from getting shot, lol.
@bigwezz
@bigwezz 8 ай бұрын
@@falseprophet4927 Fortiche did the animation and visuals, but they didn't write the scrip or story.
@nicorobin7923
@nicorobin7923 2 жыл бұрын
1:15 The innocent look on Jinx's face is perfection, I absolutely love it
@marrox013
@marrox013 4 ай бұрын
I don't easily get emotional, but Jinx shooting Silco and running to him afterward still almost makes cry every time I watch it Jinx repeating "I'm sorry" over and over again felt so real and so devastating
@rainfall8949
@rainfall8949 2 жыл бұрын
Then: “I only wanted to help!” Now: Vi only wanted to help Things come full circle.
@silverstrike5904
@silverstrike5904 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic
@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s
@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 2 жыл бұрын
Help by what? Hurting Jinx with the past? That is ironic.
@disdiot2995
@disdiot2995 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s she didn’t mean to hurt her. Thinking of Vander and their brothers is a big comfort for Vi, she was just trying to comfort Jinx in her way. Obviously that didn’t work, but Vi doesn’t know that. Stop blaming her for everything jfc
@OreoOreoCookie234
@OreoOreoCookie234 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s She didn't mean to dumb jinx stan
@wakkawakkagaming3710
@wakkawakkagaming3710 2 жыл бұрын
Silco was a beautifully executed villain. His motivations and actions are consistently understandable even in his darkest moments, his personality reinforces what he does, and he's able to remain a sympathetic person even til the end. He really loved her, and that's why the character works. He's not a monster, he's a scared, lonely man who built up an entire identity around himself as armor. Jinx was the one crack he allowed, and its the one that killed him. Poetic
@Filmhead-Productions
@Filmhead-Productions Жыл бұрын
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Before Powder tackle/hugged Silco, he was about to stab her, he had a knife and everything. And even says to the Chem Baron lady, "I would've had your son killed for this." This dude ain't above killing kids. But yeah I agree with everything else.
@Jukettaja
@Jukettaja 2 жыл бұрын
0:46 You can barely hear this but the subtitle confirm that Jinx hears her inner voices saying "It's time to leave them". So she raises her gun and yells with no intent of firing in the hopes of provoking Caitlyn to end it all.
@CertainlyCynical
@CertainlyCynical 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@moanapooh9726
@moanapooh9726 Жыл бұрын
Omg I didn’t realize that
@fizadin1859
@fizadin1859 9 ай бұрын
Yeh, I can hear it.
@chrsmueller923
@chrsmueller923 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sick of people villainizing Vi. Yes, she didn’t accept that Jinx had changed and she put her in a triggering situation. But y’all gotta remember that Vi is in a huge amount of denial. This poor woman has been through a lot of shit too. She’s trying to keep the one person she has left in her life and try to bring her back. Vi lost everyone, and at the end of the day she’s a girl who wants her sister back. Jinx is like that too.
@krisg5078
@krisg5078 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am not the only one lol. Thing is people would like to choose what they like to see but fail what is essentially right.
@Cherry-ob7hx
@Cherry-ob7hx 2 жыл бұрын
The problem in this Is that people can't fully put themselfs in their positions, when your watching a show/movie reading a books or whatever you can just say "damn they're so dumb for doing this i would have done this" but if they were in this character position they probably wouldn't do what they say they will, bc that implies having pass through all this character pass through having to feel their pain and pressure and honestly having characters fail and not tooking the best decisions its what makes them more realistic
@danguy6591
@danguy6591 2 жыл бұрын
@@krisg5078 well, I think that someone certain fails to see what motivated powder do become jinx to begin with: big amount of inferiority complex. And vi was the biggest source of them.
@themimsy
@themimsy 2 жыл бұрын
Of course she doesn’t accept that. Why would you blindly accept a murderer. Especially seeing how she went from fighting to survive and help her family to being a part of the group that’s poisoning the people Like it’s a tragic story. It’s sad that Powder is like this now. She had extreme abandonment issues as a kid and was already a bit on the unhinged side (which is understandable given her age and what she had experienced) and then Silco, while he did actually care about her very very deeply, groomed her into a weapon and pushed her psychotic behavior further and further.
@Cherry-ob7hx
@Cherry-ob7hx 2 жыл бұрын
@@themimsy this!
@KidFuryplaysOfficial
@KidFuryplaysOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
"In their last moments they show you who they are" - Heath Ledger's Joker
@zacharybradley6168
@zacharybradley6168 2 жыл бұрын
The symbolism of how Silco finally understood what Vander had been experiencing when he gave himself up; he had everything he wanted on the table. The Nation of Zaun, reign over topside, control of majority trade, and most of all…. Power. But in order to have it, he had to trade in one thing; Jinx. The source of a majority of his problems that had been preventing true control; and even then, he couldn’t do it. All in all, the character arc of Silco, from a cold, ruthless man with a momentous dream, to a father that would give up his dreams to keep his daughter safe. In the end, Silco went from my least favorite character, to top three.
@whippethacreem7299
@whippethacreem7299 2 жыл бұрын
It's the mental conflict for me, Jinx loves Silco, but Powder loves Vi, but as soon as Silco tries to kill Vi, the pan balance tipped, that wasn't supposed to happen. When one threatens the other, the need to protect the defenseless one sparks, causing Powder to kill Silco. Perhaps if Silco didn't reach for the gun, but instead kept yelling with Vi, the conflict between Powder and Jinx would continue. Though, it would be likely that Jinx would win, killing Caitlyn in the process. Or, what if Vi had the gun instead, would Jinx kill Vi? That's a rather tricky one. Well, no matter which path she travels, regret will follow all of them. Losing Silco, or Vi, or fully becoming the jinx Vi saw her as in their childhood if she killed Caitlyn.
@QuEsT_X
@QuEsT_X 2 жыл бұрын
Silco really did love her and he knew vi was the source of her pain in that moment
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
Vi is her sister at the end of the day… Silco lied all those years claiming Vi was dead and abandoned her.
@northstar67
@northstar67 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie but silco never knew vi was Alive, Marcus lied to silco.
@ibrahimsurti4922
@ibrahimsurti4922 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie oh yeah…… And vi was saying no to jinx even when Caitlin was pointing the gun at jinx……. People don’t see Vi started the whole mess, similar to how jayce is the villain and not viktor
@overrclocked
@overrclocked 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimsurti4922 You guys are all turned around. Yes their stories are emotionally distressing but that doesnt excuse what they have done. Silco is a mental manipulator and classic mental abuser. Yes he may love Jinx like a daughter, but he still pushed her to become an emotionally damaged crazy Jinx.
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
@@northstar67 After finding out that Vi was alive and was out looking for her sister he orders her death AGAIN and doesn’t bother telling Jinx about it. Silco had everything to do with why they were separated and he never told Jinx that…Did y’all watch the show?
@affebanane3039
@affebanane3039 2 жыл бұрын
Silco was trying to protect Jinx from Vi. What Vi said did hurt Jinx, she was suffering. That ist why Silco was raging that much.
@artfaist
@artfaist 2 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone blaming everything on Vi? Like vi was in prison. Jinx killed vander and the friends on accident. And killed silco not because of Vi. She’s mentally unstable that it that’s all. More so cause of mylo. Vi had a right to be mad at powder for accidentally killing those people. Stop blaming vi for everything
@sidney6522
@sidney6522 2 жыл бұрын
@@artfaist That's not the point. He was talking about the moment. Vi didn't knew that mentioning Mylo and Claggor would bring up bad memmories. Silco knew it though because Jinx always told him about her dreams and ptsd attacks. That doesn't mean that Vi is a bad person. Silco just saw her daughter in pain IN THAT MOMENT so he was raging so much.
@khoinguyen5004
@khoinguyen5004 2 жыл бұрын
@@artfaist no one was blaming Vi. Jinx was suffering from a ptsd attack, and Silco noticed. Thats why he tried to shut Vi up, so he could calm Jinx down
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
@@khoinguyen5004 Aiming a gun at Vi and shooting her isn’t calming anything down
@khoinguyen5004
@khoinguyen5004 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie read my comment again. He aimed the gun at Vi to shut her up, not calming Jinx down
@viciousbagel
@viciousbagel 7 ай бұрын
Something that always touches me is how Silco’s last words are reaffirming to Jinx that he loves her no matter what, and that he would have never betrayed her. Their father-daughter bond was the best part of an already-perfect show for me, and the fact that the villain’s death made me cry more than any other on the show is a testament to the quality of writing. Thank you to everyone involved in this masterpiece, this show is truly lightning in a bottle and I hope season 2 continues with this level of quality.
@z0mbiejr.757
@z0mbiejr.757 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone always says that this Powder protecting Vi or Jinx choosing Vi over Silco, but I always just saw this as her reacting to the sound of a gun and firing on instinct. And that’s why she looks so shocked after she realized what she did.
@CertainlyCynical
@CertainlyCynical 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what it was. People saying it was sisterly instinct to protect vi are DEAD WRONG and are honestly just coping!
@goomba8170
@goomba8170 2 жыл бұрын
@@CertainlyCynical Writers confirmed that she was protecting Vi. If anyone is coping it’s you lmao
@ahsink.3080
@ahsink.3080 2 жыл бұрын
@@goomba8170 The writer in question is Amanda Overton who has said a lot of incorrect things on twitter which are at odds with what is shown in the show. She has said that Vi saw Jinx's dying body on the bridge even though the visual panned out to reveal that she couldn't see anything through the fog. She had said that Vander tried to drown Silco after adopting the kids when the visuals show them looking 20 years younger (and it wouldn't make sense anyway, since Vi and Jinx had never heard of Silco before). She is only one person out of a team of writers, who collaborated with hundreds of other people, including animators who often added their own spin to the series that the writers didn't come up with. Using Twitter as your encyclopedia on what goes on in the show, instead of the show itself is an incredibly immature way to engage with media. Word of God is not the definitive take on the series. Use your own brain to interpret what's happening and what the characters are thinking based on the actual text, not tweets. Thinking Jinx was trying to save Vi is a fine interpretation. But thinking she had no awareness of her surroundings during her panic attack/psychotic episode and desperately acted out is also perfectly supported by the show.
@marwahelaly9638
@marwahelaly9638 Жыл бұрын
@@ahsink.3080 I completely agree. Amanda's name wasn't written in the beginning of episode 9, where they usually write the writers for each episode when the theme song is playing. Alex and Christian and a bunch of other writers names were there but not hers. And after watching the Behind the scenes episodes of the main writers and producers when they were working on the show, it was shown that it was Christian and Alex who wrote the last scene. Also Christian said that Alex was the one responsible for writing any Silco/Jinx dialogue on reddit, so there's that. I really think one of them should've answered this question, not someone who wasn't directly involved in the writing of that specific episode. (since her name wasn't written in the beginning of ep 9, it was written in other episodes though just not this one) and to quote someone on reddit "Jinx's whole motif in life is that she hurts the people she loves, why would vi be any different? (true cuz in episode 3 she was going to die because of the explosion that powder caused if it wasn't for vander) why with vi she would supernaturally be incapable of physically hurting? it doesn't make sense."
@jonathanvilario5402
@jonathanvilario5402 2 жыл бұрын
Vi didn't even realize it, but she was inducing trauma into Jinx. All those names she was forced to remember were just her worst moments, and it didn't let her think clearly. Vi is a primary source of Jinx's trauma, and here she was making it worse for Jinx again
@xuephyre3225
@xuephyre3225 2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy and sad that Vi said things are fine and that they'll be okay after jinx just killed someone that was close to her. Vi never understood how much silco meant to jinx
@CertainlyCynical
@CertainlyCynical 2 жыл бұрын
And probably never will
@andrewpenny4676
@andrewpenny4676 2 жыл бұрын
Especially if vi becomes am enforcer.
@wut-dah_7212
@wut-dah_7212 2 жыл бұрын
Because to her he’s the man who killed who she was closest to.
@brandyjohnson738
@brandyjohnson738 2 жыл бұрын
@@wut-dah_7212 obviously but even if you believe your sister is brainwashed or not she obviously attached to self to someone who is bad. Rather it was manipulation or not. So she even said it's okay like she knew something bad went down
@crimsonitaliandragon5453
@crimsonitaliandragon5453 Жыл бұрын
Vi was in prison for six years, she had just met her again after a long time and the FireLight attacked. Vi even is surprised when she sees Ekko in their reunion scene and she outright says that she remembers how he wouldn't even be able to stand up to her in the scene, in a proud manner. Because she was also having difficulties on wrapping her head around the passing of time and the fact that Ekko wasn't the "Little Man" she had known anymore. To her it was just knowing what was going on after she was kept far away from everyone she loved and cared for for six years, just like someone who suffered amnesia or stood out of the loop for a long after something happened to them. Vi didn't had any visitors in prison to tell her what was happening outside Stillwaters, apart from Caitlyn just before she gets freed, she's still learning how things are, how could she possibly know that? And Vi didn't WILLINGLY abandoned Powder to Silco, she was captured and forcibly dragged away after being knocked out by drugs on a tissue. How can Vi could know about what twisted relationship Powder could have with Silco while she was literally buried in Stillwaters (her arrest wasn't even in the records nor her allegations for being there, Caitlyn clearly states that when she goes to speak with Vi) especially if the two sisters never talked about it and didn't even had a moment to catch up? The only things Vi knew about the relationship between her long lost sister and Silco are Ekko's words, also Jinx never, EVER told anything to Vi about that. Here Vi is trying to comfort Jinx as much as she can, for as far as she knows about how much Silco meant for Jinx and you can't pretend Vi accepting what her little sister become in so few days since being released from prison. Or at gunpoint, just like in the scene where Jinx asks Vi to kill Caitlyn if she wants Powder back. It takes time for that, and both of them didn't have none to sit down and try to find a common ground from where rebuild their relationship. It wouldn't have been like in the past, but I am sure that Vi would've done the effort to understand everything even for just to reconnect with the sister she never stopped to care and search even while she was in prison if given time.
@Bulls910
@Bulls910 2 жыл бұрын
All of these characters are simultaneously multiple things at once, and all the characters contribute to the tragedy at the end while never being ENTIRELY responsible. That’s what makes the story amazing. Silco loved Jinx but he was also toxic, incredibly possessive, a liar, tried to kill Jinx’s family multiple times, and pushed Jinx to continue making Hextech even as it traumatized her. He was a good father who loved her as murdering maniac, but he was a terrible father who could ONLY love her as a murdering maniac. He both protected and enabled the worst in Jinx/Powder. Vi was a good, very protective sister. But she also got Jinx in the whole mess by taking her on these heists that Vander warned her about, convinced Powder to hide the Hextech gemstones from Vander, punched her in frustration, and then unfortunately abandoned Powder in her greatest time of need, which of course Marcus really made worse. (Although you could even argue Marcus was just doing it to protect Vi from getting murdered by Silco. On the other hand, Marcus could’ve also just gone after Silco himself, but this is what makes Marcus a flawed character). Ultimately Vi also helped create the monster too. Not out of entirely bad intentions, but, just like Silco, out of flawed parenting. And also just like Silco, she could only love a PART of Jinx/Powder. She had the SAME parenting flaw as Silco, and this conflict broke something in Jinx. Finally, Jinx/Powder is responsible for her own creation too. They allude to her unstable mental state as a child when she’s freaking out after she’s told she can’t go help save Vander. She jumps to conclusions about everyone. She’s shown mercy by Ekko but still (possibly suicidally?) tries to blow everyone up. This physical trauma leads to her chemtech treatment that further maddens her. She’s very much a victim throughout her story, especially when you consider how much she’s gone through at a young age, but she also isn’t absolved of responsibility. What makes this story great, a tragedy, and a GREAT tragedy, is not that some sad stuff happened that we can all finally understand by debating it until we arrive at its one true interpretation. It’s a great tragedy because some sad stuff happened that was both inevitable and INTENTIONALLY endlessly debatable. Everyone in this comment thread is 100% RIGHT in their character interpretations and 100% WRONG in presenting their interpretations as authoritative. Good stories are ambiguous. Life is ambiguous. Yeesh.
@overrclocked
@overrclocked 2 жыл бұрын
Very well put.
@VenhedisKaffas
@VenhedisKaffas 2 жыл бұрын
@I - Rout Did still enable her bad actions, though. Partially because he isn't exactly morally good either but the problem with Silco is that he's the kind of father that lets their child do basically whatever they want. He tells her she's perfect, which is kind of good because Jinx wants to hear that...but he also lets her spiral out of control and hurt other people. He cares when she hurts herself in her mental state but he doesn't care when her actions hurt others.
@quentinpoum
@quentinpoum 2 жыл бұрын
@I - Rout He didn’t really say that. Silco helped create Jinx in a way as he encouraged Jinx to let go of Powder. He loved her unconditionally but in his own flawed way.
@Mediados
@Mediados 2 жыл бұрын
We cannot say that completely because we only know what their relationship was like when Jinx grew up, not her uprbringing with Silco.
@pyrrhusnikos242
@pyrrhusnikos242 2 жыл бұрын
@I - Rout If he loved her unconditionally, then why did he spend several scenes trying to get her to "kill" the Powder side of herself? He only loved "Jinx"; he tried to get rid of "Powder." Doesn't really sound unconditional.
@Benthino
@Benthino 2 жыл бұрын
Powder killed Silco. But in return, Jinx killed Powder.
@zagiproductions1630
@zagiproductions1630 2 жыл бұрын
deep
@digimonalvatrax2738
@digimonalvatrax2738 8 ай бұрын
Powder did the last thing to protect Vi despite everything DANG....
@gabrielam.7681
@gabrielam.7681 2 жыл бұрын
Jinx has accidentally killed every person she's ever loved except for her sister, who wouldn't be crazy after that?
@hielyr
@hielyr 7 ай бұрын
Okay here's another reason for you to cry for Silco's death. In earlier episodes, when Sevika was making her choice about betraying Silco or not, we saw that Silco is actually afraid of death! It just makes this scene much more meaningful because he didn't show any sign of fear or anger to Jinx in his final moments. He choose to comfort her because he didn't want to be one of the whispers that are torturing her.
@tinfrancisco4578
@tinfrancisco4578 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why they framed the scene like this 2:47 and I realized it shows that all through out the show jinx was lost (thus showing a dark path behind her symbolizing a struggle of her identity and worth) and after hearing silco's last words it came down to self acceptance flaws and all (thus showing light behind silco and framing jinx's sit). after that realization the voices 2:53 didnt made her anxious like before, instead she had a calm expression like everything is clear. so SHE CHOSE jinx.
@vllin7247
@vllin7247 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even notice Silco trying to shoot Vi in this scene, the only thing that stood out to me was how she remembered her family: as monsters in her head
@eyshanho3322
@eyshanho3322 2 жыл бұрын
fucking hell the way Silco's trying to break free from the ropes when he realized what Vi's words were doing to Jinx. He was ready to pounce and kill for his daughter.
@josetapia9606
@josetapia9606 2 жыл бұрын
This scence is such a tragedy. On one hand, Silco was a father to Jinx but he also ennabled her worst tendecies in a misguided way to make tought enought to survive Zaun, driving her further into maddness. He conffussed helping Jinx with projecting his own traumas into Jinx, literally molding her into an insane version of himself. His love was genuine and equally toxic Vi, on the other hand, clearly loves her sister back, but is equally affraid and disturbed of Jinx. She cant accept what "Powder" to Jinx is emotional pain. Just like in real life, reminding traumatissed people of theor past is emotional painfull and traumatising. Vi is trying to put Jinx in a mold what she no longer fits. Both Vi and Silco, were the greatest and worst thing to ever happen to Jinx
@LindyLime
@LindyLime Жыл бұрын
You are right. The "Vi good Silco bad" people and the "Silco good Vi bad" people aren't giving this show any credit for how nuanced it is
@ivegotchu
@ivegotchu 2 жыл бұрын
"You're my daughter, I'll never forsake you" Did I cry or did I cry 🥲
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet
@kinda_cold_in_the_closet 2 жыл бұрын
I cried
@Crookedmothart
@Crookedmothart 6 ай бұрын
A few comments I saw on here made me really think. Jinx saw powder as a monster because she (unintentionally) killed her friends and family, and now felt she had to kill her off because powder then also killed her only father figure since vi was taken. Vi sees jinx as a monster but that she can get powder back. Jinx killed powder to protect silco but after powder killed him to save vi. Jinx created vi as an enforcer and vi created jinx. I love every single part about this show, I’m hoping that they can have some sisterly bond still in season 2, even tho we all know it’s not going to be like it was before.
@J.Valentine1031
@J.Valentine1031 10 ай бұрын
Silco's final act was to comfort the scared little girl that came into his life.
@fetusdeletus9266
@fetusdeletus9266 10 ай бұрын
Craziest thing is that Silco legitimately even until his dying breath loved Jinx as his daughter
@txubaraozada
@txubaraozada 8 ай бұрын
I can't ignore the fact that when Vi was shouting names and Jinx was having a "breakdown", Silco lost his mind and tried to protect is daughter
@viper9833
@viper9833 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel like Vi made Jinx's mental state so much worse in this whole scene. She really empowered her PTSD and the voices in her sister's head.
@akaVillaz
@akaVillaz 2 жыл бұрын
Was interesting to see the passives from game in the show , we saw vi passsive save her vs sevika and jinx 'Got excited' to take back her gun.
@MeDicenPacho
@MeDicenPacho 2 жыл бұрын
i just like to think that after she killed silco she just got her passive and after doing his R thing she went full move speed lol
@readyjoe6427
@readyjoe6427 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn’t vi’s passive, that’s her W. Her passive is the 3 hit armor peel
@MeDicenPacho
@MeDicenPacho 2 жыл бұрын
@@readyjoe6427 bro he's talking about the shield passive, not the armor one
@readyjoe6427
@readyjoe6427 2 жыл бұрын
@@MeDicenPacho ah wait yeah, I’ve been playing to much wild rift. On there her passive is denting blows, but on the actual league game it’s her shield.
@MeDicenPacho
@MeDicenPacho 2 жыл бұрын
@@readyjoe6427 ohh
@everondoma
@everondoma 2 жыл бұрын
2:54 I’m surprised no one has theorized that Silco joined Jinx in her head, like Mylo and Claggor, after his death by her hand. There’s a brief moment where she loses her expression and you hear subtle whispering before she decided to fully embrace herself as Jinx.
@PsychoAngell
@PsychoAngell 2 жыл бұрын
You know… I didn’t even realized that…
@youregonewiththesin
@youregonewiththesin 2 жыл бұрын
that’s so interesting
@seansean1022
@seansean1022 2 жыл бұрын
That sad now I am sad
@shhhhhhh9245
@shhhhhhh9245 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone translate the whispers...
@barrackobama3631
@barrackobama3631 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't cry you're perfect" ~Silco
@DenDarEmi
@DenDarEmi 2 жыл бұрын
Something I really appreciate in this show is how well it portraits emotions. I watched the scenes with Jinx and Vi so many times now and realized things that went over my head the first time I watched it. Like I first thought that Vi abandoned Powder because that's how Powder interpreted it since she's so scared of being left behind for being a jinx. But Vi actually just wanted a break to calm down and collect her thoughts, since she was in a upset state where she couldn't control herself and her emotions properly and therefore lashed out on Powder. And when Vi tried to reach out to Powder thinking that the thoughts of their family where pleasant memories for both but for Powder those memories where her demons, her guilt, her trauma. She didn't meant to hurt her sister, only to help but she didn't understand Powder's feelings, which I didn't understood the first time either. Hollywood usually makes us believe that emotions are visible, anything you can see on the screen is what's actually going on in their heads but that's so far from the reality. Everybody interprets things differently, have different feelings about things and sometimes actions comes from a different place than what it looks like it does. And I just feel like this show really showed that, especially with the sisters
@rieJW
@rieJW 9 ай бұрын
I like to believe it’s this moment that Vi finally understands why powder sided with Silco, not because of any brainwashing but genuine care. For the first time, Vi probably sees Silco in a different light as a person with a gentler side
@rieJW
@rieJW 11 ай бұрын
Just as Vander taught Vi to master herself and her skills, so did Silco to Jinx by allowing her to accept herself and be at peace with her inner voices (we even hear them going away near the end as she becomes more serious after his death) I can’t wait for season 2
@ChaosDraguss
@ChaosDraguss 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people don't understand; there's no going back for Jinx because there was never something to go back to. Jinx *is* Powder. They're just different names for the same person. A girl who grew up in a very violent place and suffered a lot of traumas, who is constantly tormented by the guilt of her greatest mistake. But also a girl who likes the fighting and the violence, who relishes in the chaos and destruction. Jinx's only conflicts were in her love for Vi and her guilt for Mylo and Claggor, but we've never once seen a hint that she doesn't like the person she's become, that there's some facet of Powder trapped inside that can be brought back. For better or worse, this is the person Powder has grown to be.
@ВаамЦелезаров-р6ъ
@ВаамЦелезаров-р6ъ 2 жыл бұрын
Верно. Ви же хотела видеть ту самую маленькую девочку, которую джинкс ненавидела всей душой и из которой давно выросла. Чего Вай понять не смогла. Джинкс хотела просто подтверждение безусловной любви к себе. Принятию после всего что она совершила и кем стала. Но Вай продолжала ей изменять раз за разом уже после возвращения из тюрьмы. Джинкс сделала правильный выбор. Она выбрала себя. Эту веру в свои силы, в то, что она сильнее своих страхов предал ей Силко. Умирая ему не за чем было врать и она поняла, что есть хотя бы один человек, который её полностью принял даже после того как она его убила. Это доказало ей её ценность. Это бесценный дар Силко.
@dhsswim11
@dhsswim11 9 ай бұрын
Even when Jinx would mess up almost every one of Silcos plans, he still never gave up on Jinx. Even after Jayne gives him the future he always wanted and after Jinx accidently kills him, he still reassures her that theres nothing wrong with her.... Say what you want about Silco but at the end of the day, he truly loved Jinx as his own daughter! He loved Jinx for who she is now. Not what she used to be like Vi does.....
@AJ-bg6ko
@AJ-bg6ko 2 жыл бұрын
1:20 i love the light trails they add whenever someone takes shimmer, it makes the speed feel almost alien to the speed of everything else
@lethalprincess2087
@lethalprincess2087 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Silco put up with Jinx being like that tells me that he really did love her. I think he didn't originally plan to take her in, but when she clung to him like he was the only thing she had left, he accepted her, but ended up genuinely developing an attachment to her.
@meishiate-8139
@meishiate-8139 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I’m practically dry when it comes to crying over movies or tv shows but Arcane really had me in tears. when Silco used his last moments to tell her he loved her and she was perfect I just started bawling like a baby
@Filya-chan
@Filya-chan 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the voices in her head are fading away as she mourns her father’s death. Like they don’t have control over her anymore.
@winxbuneari5430
@winxbuneari5430 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about that. I think they will always be there. I think she was just used to them
@Filya-chan
@Filya-chan 2 жыл бұрын
@@winxbuneari5430 it has to mean something. There was an emphasis on that.
@peterwiehe5445
@peterwiehe5445 2 жыл бұрын
they gave silco the perfect expression and dying lines, goddamn such a good character man
@rockandroll547
@rockandroll547 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe silco breaking free wasn't so he can keep jinx (someone who he came to love as family) as a possession, but instead so he could stop her pain as he could clearly see how much she was hurting when Vi was bringing up her memories
@xbubble_teax
@xbubble_teax 2 жыл бұрын
A small detail but I love the wariness in Vi's voice after Silco dies and she says "...Powder?" before trying to comfort Jinx. Kinda highlights more how Vi is still afraid of her unpredictability. I swear my heart was pounding the whole time, not sure what Jinx was going to do next. Simply amazing.
@elmothepuppeteer
@elmothepuppeteer 2 жыл бұрын
The absolute PAIN in jinx’s voice in the “I’m sorry’s” is killing me
@friskdremeurluck7907
@friskdremeurluck7907 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this makes me cry. Silco was a great dad in his last moments he choose comfort jinx and reassured her that she is loved.
@jinxvi9940
@jinxvi9940 2 жыл бұрын
Even while having a mental breakdown, Jinx has such a strong instinct to protect Vi. Silco was an evil dude but he really did love Jinx also. So sad.
@dreamhollow
@dreamhollow 10 ай бұрын
This moment made me realize that no matter how much Silco wanted Zaun, he really came to see Jinx as his own daughter. He spent years raising her. He may have used her to get his own ends, but he was willing to sacrifice nearly everything to keep her.
@lovefromwonderland
@lovefromwonderland 2 жыл бұрын
When she looks back up after Silco dies, her eyes are totally dead. Like all the light is gone. Damn.
@maxshymkiv2200
@maxshymkiv2200 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed one more thing, i saw the same thought earlier but nvm. Have you noticed that even she caused a lot of troubles Silco forgives her and comfort her, while VI at the situation lost her nerve
@minhkhuenguyen7294
@minhkhuenguyen7294 2 жыл бұрын
Vi was a child though
@maxshymkiv2200
@maxshymkiv2200 2 жыл бұрын
@@minhkhuenguyen7294 but in a twisted mind of Powder it does not matter
@asifhossain8363
@asifhossain8363 2 жыл бұрын
@@minhkhuenguyen7294 and powder was 7
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
@@asifhossain8363 She wasn’t 7… around 10 at most which doesn’t excuse you of killing your damn family
@mesmeibrahimoglu
@mesmeibrahimoglu 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazelAmarie she was 7 vi said that
@stellargamer4852
@stellargamer4852 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks that silco yelling at vi saying that she was jinx and not powder was because he wanted to keep jinx with her trauma but in reality he could see that vi was hurting her by bringing up the past. It wasn’t vi’s fault she was gone but she had no idea what kind of mental state jinx was in and silco did. One of the big things with internal disorders is to everyone else you look fine but only the people who really know you understand what little things can trigger a break down I can speak from personal experience that something that sounds good to most people can hurt really bad to someone with internal disorders.
@CrimsonRose18
@CrimsonRose18 2 жыл бұрын
Arcane won 9 nominations and its so fucking deserved.
@lynnxxgray7484
@lynnxxgray7484 2 жыл бұрын
1:42 her little “stop” hurts. Those voices from when she was a kid hold so much power over her and though she’s jinx and all it’s like deep down there is a part of her that still feels like little powder, scared and small. Idk I’m not good with describing it, there is just something about this scene that especially hurts.
@horakhtythecreator6911
@horakhtythecreator6911 3 ай бұрын
It’s interesting to me how Jinx apologizes to Silco for shooting him but not to Vi about the cannery accident. Or to Mylo or Claggor as the voices she hears when reminded of the event. She says it’s a mistake and it’s clear she harbors guilt over it, yet it’s only here that she apologizes for something she regrets.
@Dante-sb5dr
@Dante-sb5dr Жыл бұрын
This hits hard..when I was in my teens I had mental problems and was literally going to lose my mind. Sometimes I didn’t know what was real and what wasn’t. How Jinx’s mental state looks so violent, it was so same to me too. I never was a violent person but my visions and sounds I heard felt so as it is seen here too, all the same feels it’s scary. I got better though thank God.
@zeseza
@zeseza Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry
@ursidae97
@ursidae97 9 ай бұрын
There's a goddamn animation rig that made it possible for jinx to make that haunted face at Kaitlyn
@nviolet152
@nviolet152 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine killing the only person in the world who loves you for who you are (not who you used to be), all in order to protect someone who rejects who you are and wants you to be someone else. Only to hear that someone casually say: "It's ok. *We'll* be ok."
@nviolet152
@nviolet152 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate Vi. All this time she rejeceted her sister's new self, merely seeing Jinx as some mask, and not an actual person that she is. That's why she kept calling her Powder. And now that Jinx is shocked after she killed the only person who loved her, Vi can't even see she's in f*cking pain cuz of losing Silco. She tried to brush it off AS IF IT WASN'T IMPORTANT. All because she rejects Jinx. Thus she rejects her feelings for Silco. Jinx just killed him for her, and Vi doesn't even understand how much it hurts. She has ZERO empathy for her ACTUAL, REAL sister. Yet she claims to "love" her regardless of anything. "Love" my ass. She doesn't even see her as a person.
@Ludvik789
@Ludvik789 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it's a great surprise that after years in prison, separated from her sister, finally reunited she doesn't accept that her sister is now a crazy, looney, murderer. oh right that's supposed to be okay? nice that you're sticking up for a murderer though 👍
@nviolet152
@nviolet152 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Ludvik789 If you can't accept someone - leave them the f*ck alone. Instead Vi kept doing her bullsh1t. The least she could've done after Silco died was to have some empathy. Instead Vi brushed off his death like it's nothing. That's not love. That's insensitivity. Imagine not seeing how much emotional pain your sister's in after she killed someone important to her.
@Ludvik789
@Ludvik789 2 жыл бұрын
@@nviolet152 yeah, I'm sure Vi really cried for her enemy who got her entire 2nd family killed by orchestrating the whole thing to begin with, plus Echo's foster parent, to take Jinx away and really manipulate her into what she's become. Sure Vi should be sympathetic to Silco :rolleyes: and she also had a score to settle with Silco for Vander. Insensitivity?! lmao, give me a break. Murder we tolerate, but no manners? awh hell nawh. Boo hoo. murderous scumbag is dead, big qq.
@nviolet152
@nviolet152 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Ludvik789 "Sure Vi should be sympathetic to Silco :rolleyes:" Who said anything about Silco? This is about Jinx ffs, you know, the sister that Vi claims to still love no matter what? Which turned out to be bullsh1t. If your friend tells you he lost his parents, will you tell them "it's ok, *we'll* be ok" just because you didn't like them? This isn't about you ffs. If someone you care about is in huge emotional pain, you're supposed to see it (at least) and show that you care. Brushing it off like Vi did is not "love", it's called being insensitive. Yet she claims to love her. Can't you see the bullsh1t? Hell, even prior to the tea party, in episode 6, she tells Jinx at the rooftop that she doesn't care about the gemstone and that she's only there for her (which convinces Jinx, btw), but right after that, in episode 7, when Vi learns what's at stake, she goes to the bridge and prioritizes returning gemstone over Jinx (proving that her statement on the rooftop was empty words).
@louxych
@louxych 2 жыл бұрын
0:55 i just notice jinx smiled a little when she heard vi said "she's my sister" guess happy and relieved that she didnt side with Caitlyn
@Alwaysbiggerfishinthesea
@Alwaysbiggerfishinthesea Жыл бұрын
Caitlyn gets knocked tf out like, 4, maybe 5 times in the span of 6 episodes. 1. That time where she almost dies from an explosion. 2. That time where a firelight kicks her in the f*cking jaw. 3. A SECOND explosion on the bridge. 4. This scene where she gets absolutely GOBSMACKED with a machine gun. 5. That time where she (probably) gets knocked out after taking a shower.
@maxnetirtimon4121
@maxnetirtimon4121 2 жыл бұрын
when Silco was talking to Vander(statue) about how he understands him now he meant he finally understood Vander's decision for not giving up VI and the rest of the kids to that cop Lady and going so far that he wanted to be arrested in their place just like Silco when he told Jayce that Jinx killed those Cops under his command while that wasn't true at all. ohhhh it's so powerful
@that-gay-dork3749
@that-gay-dork3749 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna note that with the Vander is Warwick theory in the Arcane fandom, there is an extremely important detail in this scene connecting to that theory. Milo and Claggor’s ghosts are like the dolls Jinx has of them, but Vander’s ghost? It has the face of a wolf. Similar to the creature you see Singed with in his lab during the final scene of season one. Jinx must’ve seen some things in there over the years, including that monster of Singed’s. Maybe Jinx knew what happened to Vander, what Singed was doing to his body, and that’s why he was never a voice in her head, because he was never dead and was instead morphed into something that haunted her even more than Milo and Claggor, to the point of her burying it deep inside her mind.
@linolada9754
@linolada9754 3 ай бұрын
"you're perfect" he told the girl that's been called a jinx her entire life by the people she loves, it makes it so much more meaningful
@Kirbyterasu
@Kirbyterasu Жыл бұрын
Moral of Arcane: You either die a beloved parental figure, Or live long enough to see yourself become the villain... and ALSO die a beloved parental figure
@barbaraw1245
@barbaraw1245 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@straightjacket308
@straightjacket308 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how jinx act so frail and scared..... But then turns out to be a monster! An absolute beast! Why can't we have more shows like this?
@jorgealberto8544
@jorgealberto8544 2 жыл бұрын
In the back of Silco's chair we can see a crab, the monster crab Vi was supossed to keep away from Powder when they were child
@minou2980
@minou2980 6 ай бұрын
omg
@greentea_sogood
@greentea_sogood Жыл бұрын
the fact that I can clearly understand everyone's intentions in their actions is just proving how amazing the character development is
@shar8878
@shar8878 11 ай бұрын
2:46 only noticed this very cool detail. the way the camera is angled shows only jinxs chair on the left, showing that she is about to choose that. the powder chair was on the opposite side, but the camera was angled specifically on this side to show she has become jinx. crazy
@broccolitastesgood
@broccolitastesgood 2 жыл бұрын
This scene shows that Silco and Vi are oppisites. In example, when Powder accidentally killed her family Vi hurts her and says she is a Jinx. In THIS even when he's dying he tells the one person who shot him that they are perfect. This shows development and emotion is just amazing. But what were we expecting from a show that had 6 years of work put into it.
@cincameron
@cincameron 2 жыл бұрын
I love how we see Jinx's in-game abilities develop over the course of the season. The method in which they are activated are different, but most of her abilities are here, which is cool. I expect her to get an upgrade to her hand-gun via Hextech since we have yet to see her use "Zap". "Get Excited" is shown in this scene. Jinx has had a LOT of Shimmer injected into her body, and it seems she can activate it at will, which gave her an incredible boost in speed. We see Fishbones later on just before she fires off her ult, so now we know she has her grenade/rocket launcher. Her Flamechompers are obviously her grenades, but I wonder if they'll get another feature, like how in-game, they snare people who step near them. And of course, we see her Super Mega Death Rocket in the final scene... I can't wait to see Vi use her Ult on someone. Imagine her homing in on a guy, throwing him up in the air, and slamming him down onto the ground, leaving a crater in the ground.
@groniteserpent4499
@groniteserpent4499 2 жыл бұрын
Caitlyn episodes before : "I am a perfect shot" Caitlyn on the last episode : *Literally multi shots a chain-machinegun to give a warning shot without hurting jinx*
@narcisoferreira9976
@narcisoferreira9976 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair its unlikely that caitlyn has ever used a minigun in her life so her not knowing how to use it well makes ense
@elonwhatever
@elonwhatever 10 ай бұрын
Where it all went wrong was when Jinx/powder got robbed of the one thing she really needed in that moment: to feel in control. When Caitlin got up, when Silco took the gun, they took away her sense of control and she tried to take it back the only way she knew how: with violence.
@flageloop
@flageloop 8 ай бұрын
Is it just me or did anyone else notice Warwick's shape in one of the drawings that appeared on Vander's face when Vi told Jinx to remember him?? 1:44 0.25x
@noiramoss
@noiramoss 2 жыл бұрын
"think of mylo!" "think of clogger!!" "think of vander!" really shows how vi doesn't know her sister AT ALL 😖😣💦💦 jinx has been haunted by their "ghosts" and the guilt of accidentally killing them for like a decade or so and trying to make her think of them even more than she normally does only makes her mental state worsen 💔💔 edit: to all the people in the replies coming after my fine arse about vi... which part, exactly, of my comment gives y'all the idea that i blame her??? i'm aware that she doesn't know much about this "jinx" side of her little sister so i point it out and that's all 😑 it's an OBSERVATION! the scene showing just how little vi knows about the current mental state of her sister and all that
@louminouz
@louminouz 2 жыл бұрын
i mean how could you really blame vi though shes been in prison away from her sister for god knows how long and was still convinced shes powder without acknowledging that shes changed
@insa9026
@insa9026 2 жыл бұрын
If you see that part in 0.5 or 0.25 the image of her Vander is like a wolf
@martalkar89
@martalkar89 2 жыл бұрын
@@insa9026 It's not like a wolf it's vander after drinking shimmer
@Ziaotic
@Ziaotic 2 жыл бұрын
how the fuck is she suppsoed to know that after being in jail for years?
@HazelAmarie
@HazelAmarie 2 жыл бұрын
How was Vi supposed to know? She was thrown in jail and locked away for years tf
@NefruSimons
@NefruSimons 2 жыл бұрын
This show is unethicaly good, and by a mile the best animated thing i ever seen, voice actors in this show are artists, sound effect guys are artists and writers and animators are artist. The whole series is an art instalation of cooperative effort with basicly no flaw i could think of. I feel honored that i have been alive for this, i canot wait for season 2.
@Koke-Girl
@Koke-Girl 2 жыл бұрын
I ADORE that the animators and designers gave them gums and un even teeth like normal humans have. Rather than the Disney straight white teeth all the time.
@Nini_tunes
@Nini_tunes 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the fact that when jinx dropped the gun silco was more afraid of her 😂😂 knowing she has a terrible plan for who ever dared to threaten her
@serenafucito
@serenafucito 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest (and please, don't attack me), when I realized Jinx killed Silico... I was relieved. For the entire series, I believed that Silco just manipulated Jinx to achieve its goals since, when Vi abandoned her, she was very fragile and embraced him as the only person who seemed to care about her. And Silco could take advantage of this-- BUT!! When I watched Jinx who continued to apologize for what she did, Silco who wasn't angry with her and said to love her no matter what, and Jinx crying when he died... I was speechless. I realized that Silco's love for Jinx was genuine, and not just a relationship without sense. Okay, they were both mentally unstable, but Silco really loved Jinx. Now I understand better the scene where he talks to the Vander's statue: his brother gave up fighting for his daughters and Silco was struggling with the same problem. He really loved her, Jinx was perfect for him. He was the only one who could really understand her (maybe even better than her sister, even though Vi wanted her sister back so hard) because they shared the same trauma: when Jinx was abandoned by Vi, Silco killed Vander! He saw himself in that child and decided to love her as his own daughter. It's not a normal relationship, because he didn't help her to overcome her trauma, he said to her that she could just cancel the past, forget it and become a complete different person; I don't share their point of view, but I empathize with them. I understand why they're like this and why they do what they're doing. They're human, not the “villains”. Everyone can love, even those we would never expect. With these characters and all the other characters of this series in general, you can't say who is good and who is bad and, for me, it's an example of good writing. Bravo, writers! 🖤
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