Archaeologist Reacts to Scott Wolter being a F*cking Con-artist 2: Windover and Solutrean Hypothesis

Fam. I really despise this Scott Wolter guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He does interviews with people who are either completely ignorant or WAY out on the fringe, and I think he should feel bad about himself.
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[@bro3545]

So, you and your subscribers believe because you've been through your indoctrination (university) you are the keepers of all knowledge and anyone who hasn't been through your indoctrination is wrong. Well as a person who has attended those indoctrination sessions (at university) I can tell you all to pull your heads out of your butts and smell reality. Your "degree" isn't worth the paper it's written on. Ignorance is bliss, and all I see on this channel is bliss.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I have to ask, what do you think we do in university? What are the classes like that would constitute "indoctrination"?

[@bro3545]

@@NathanaelFosaaen I am well aware what gets done in these institutions, as I have already said, I studied at one. Perhaps not the very same one as you, but the method is the same regardless. No free thinking and only repeat what you've been told by your betters. That is why your attitude is not conducive with learning anything. You think what you've been told is true, and some even most of it may be, but that doesn't mean other individuals who study and research outside of your parameters is wrong, or deserves your abuse. You come across as insecure in your field of "expertise" which is completely understandable considering the questionable value of your "education".

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Fam, in an archaeology graduate program you read 500+ pages per week of primary research from dozens of different scientists, most of whom disagree with eachother, and have to explain what parts of whose arguments do and don't work, defending your conclusions based on the evidence. It is literally impossible to agree with everything you get assigned and I disagreed with my professors constantly. Loudly. In class and in print. We all did, and really we all had to. Your conception of what an archaeology degree program is like is completely wrong.

[@bro3545]

@@NathanaelFosaaen Why then are you making videos trying to debunk anyone. Why do you care if there's evidence others are prepared to look at, yet you ignore, ridicule and treat with distain? Again, you come across as insecure in what you "know" to be true.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Because some arguments are reasonable, like whether or not archaic bluffshelters were generalized base camps, or special use camps used by women, and other arguments are baseless nonsense, like insisting that X2a chromosomes are evidence that ancient Europeans came to America over 10,000 years ago. Given the work that's been done on the Solutrean hypothesis for the last 20-something years, trying to push it as a viable model is ignorant.

[@WilliamHaich]

"They're hidin' the red haired giants!" needs to be a t-shirt

[@theodoresmith5272]

Thank you Nathan. as I was the one that asked about the florida site. Thanks man

[@pike8123]

I found a Clovis point in my grandpas barn when we were cleaning out after he passed. In was in a box with a bunch of broken points and other chert debitage he found in his fields. He kept his " full points" in the house. Since it had no tang/base he must have thought it was a broken point....but its a small one, only about 1.5 inches. He also had a couple with Dalton bases, one reduced down to a small nub point. The other was converted to a drill. It blew my mind and made my year when i found them.

[@forestcountyoutback7540]

Hey Nathanael, understanding your respect and admiration for Scott I thought I would throw this out there. I know this is off subject but here we go. Scott had episode on his series called Knights Templar Relics Discovered In Pennsylvania, S1 E8. I am not a forensic geologist but being a resident of the area and a heavy equipment operator i felt qualified to also speak on the subject and produced a video on my You Tube channel, Forest County Outback. This is episode #28, The Underground Chamber. The Department Of Shameless Self Promotion invites you view the video. Using methodology that included actual research, properly focused video, a absence of conspiracy theories and a lack of ominous dramatic background music I came to a radically different conclusion. Spoiler alert, can you say springhouse. Sadly, unlike Scott I did not get a paid trip to Ireland out of this, not that I am upset about it. Really I'm not.

[@kitefan1]

I liked that video.

[@jackharle1251]

Nathaniel needs his meds

[@Galiuros]

@@fleadoggreen9062 KZbin doesn't allow links to be posted in the comments.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Hey, cool video. I just watched it and left a couple of comments. I hope they’re not out of place.

[@cecileroy557]

@@Galiuros I've included links - many times !

[@shawnjohns5436]

Hey Nate, my name is Shawn Johns and I was once an archaeologist. With that being said, I would really love to see a video on your thoughts on the evolution of Five Finger Death Punch and their illustrious career. And possibly settle the debate on the best album ever and why it’s Limp Bizkit’s Magnum Opus, Chocolate Starfish and the Hotdog Flavored Water. All jokes aside. This is awesome. These videos are great information and I’ve shown friends to give them an idea of what it is an archaeologist actually does. Thank you for your service

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Got a good laugh at this! Miss working with you man. Hope things are good out west!

[@shawnjohns5436]

@@NathanaelFosaaendoing great man!! I’m glad you’re keeping strong!

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Sam Dunn is an anthropologist who studies heavy metal culture and makes some banging films on the subject. I think he’s totally biased though because he’s a Slayer fan he’s gonna immediately dismiss Limp Bizkit as lame and culturally insignificant so…..

[@b.a.erlebacher1139]

What I found particularly strange was the way Wolter kept saying "a woman in Florida believes", as if that means anything, and that her opinion is more valid and important than those of the scientist actually working on the site. Lots of people believe lots of things on little or no evidence. He never tells us anything about her other than that she's interested in the bog bodies. Btw, I like your explanation of the legitimately European projectile point found in the ruins of an early European homestead in the US. It makes a lot more sense than a single isolated artifact with no related context.

[@lairdhaynes1986]

We've all heard about Floridaman. It's only fair that eventually we'd get to meet his mate Floridawoman.

[@MarcWindahl]

It's probably a call to his audience. There are people just like YOU that have legitimate questions about how the "SYSTEM" is lying to you.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

I have a neighbour who is bipolar who believes Trump is still the president……

[@badguy1481]

This presenter has a credibility problem. Almost ALL the videos of his I've seen raise MULTIPLE questions that his "theories" don't answer. He appears to be more of a "salesman" than a "scientist".

[@kellykelly7747]

Thank you, Nathan. I love your educational videos. I haven't been able to stomach the "History Channel " for years. Keep the great content coming ❤

[@threeriversforge1997]

"The History Channel" really is oxymoronic!

[@carlmally6292]

Actually it is moronic.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Pseudo history channel

[@jerrybrush3859]

Plot twist: Nathanael is actually Scott Wolter’s son and we are watching the classic father son struggle as it has played out many times throughout human history. Jking.

[@gdp3rd]

I remember when the "History" channel was all Hitler and the Mafia.

[@jackprier7727]

This Scott Wolter guy always goes back to Knights Templar. For everything-

[@MarcosElMalo2]

The lack of evidence is evidence that someone is hiding the real evidence. 🤪

[@rackthejipper5304]

Weirdly enough on the recent Why Files here on KZbin about The Knights Templars (knowing about Atlantis) Wolter shows up in a spot where he says he's a Knights Templar.

[@BriarLeaf00]

​@@rackthejipper5304That's funny because I'm a Knight Templar and I've never seen him at our quarterly bank meetings.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

lol true

[@badguy1481]

For good reason...the Kensington Stone....the medieval tower on the east coast.

[@thrashmetaldad]

If Scott keeps at it Nathanael is gonna have liver failure 😢

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I'm shovel trash fam. Ya boy can drink.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

​@@NathanaelFosaaenGood call 😅

[@AmyBee4]

Ugh. Thank you. I am just a person who likes archeology, not an expert, and I watched a couple of episodes of Unearthed and pegged that guy as a con artist right away.

[@houseofsolomon2440]

Well said ~

[@badguy1481]

@@houseofsolomon2440 I think the con artist is the presenter of this program. His "explanations" of history belong in the realm of "unlikely scenarios".

[@jonwhisler6967]

he missed his chance to pitich a sequel and imply the bodies are thr Roanoke colony.

[@hillbillyhistorian1863]

I first heard about Windover from some friends in Titusville who live about a block away from the site. You’d never think that a little patch of swamp in the middle of a housing development could have been so significant.

[@qwertyuiopgarth]

If someone corrects Wolter about whether those ancient bodies could be European - how long do you think it would be before he moves to a back-up position of claiming there must have been a time machine involved?

[@MarcWindahl]

Two thoughts for future analysis: 1) This is apologetics for colonization. There is no land claim by indigenous peoples if someone from Europe got here first and saved them from starvation by teaching them how to make tools. (1.5 this is just crediting Europeans, not aliens and solving the land claims also). 2) Just call out their "Shiney" strategy. They have a nice fact about a carving of a beast on a stick that takes tons of detail to dispute. So, they call it a "Fact" and pretend it's related and suddenly people think "But look at the the facts they're hiding from us." The goal is often to raise the "Fact count" rather than actually have to explain if any the points are actual facts.

[@gnostic268]

Agree with you. The historical revisionism is partly political to undermine Indigenous land claims and eventually treaty law. Plus it's also a final solution aspect of Eurocentric (white supremacy) settler colonization. The goal of successful colonization is to completely erase Indigenous people's presence and to self-Indigenize as if they were the most important and the only people. This is why so may universities and museums have consistently refused to cooperate with NAGPRA since it became the law in the early 1990s. Illinois has recently passed a state law because it's still number 5 in states who have human remains in storage and have refused to return the bones to the respective tribal nations whose ancestors lived in Illinois before removal. By removing and erasing the presence in burial grounds, there are no remains and people like SW can then make up a fictional narrative. So people whose ancestors lived I Europe can then say their ancestors were actually on the North American continent so they are the "real Indigenous people" rather than have the separation from their actual family heritage somewhere across an ocean. They don't care if it's fake, it makes them feel good.

[@fgcbrooklyn]

Thank you for pointing out the political agenda of the "European origin." I kept wondering what the sensationalizing was about, the claim that this discovery would change everything. I can see how at the intellectual level, for specialists, this would be very significant, but failed to see the implications down the line.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Even if that's not the deliberate agenda, there are always political consequences with these things.

[@pollyrobinson3877]

But…but…I was going to do my dissertation on his theories! Ok, maybe not. Thanks, Nathaniel, for your video. Made my night.

[@ReIndigenizingMinds]

Land claims issues is why the colonialist's history only goes back 13,000 years & their Bible only goes back 3,000 years! You can't do any serious research if you have a "political" or "religious" agenda. Oh! about them erasing the Native & our land claims. PETROGLYPHS ARE OUR "ABORIGINAL TITLE" TO THE LAND!

[@jimajello1028]

Could you elaborate on the time period of bifacial flake cores, edge to edge flaking technology, heat treatment of flint & chert. Thank you.

[@royhazlett4099]

Just a quick question, what would be the best way to send some pictures of a “rock” to you, so you could look at it and give me your thoughts on what it might be? Thanks, Roy

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

That's not something I do. Your state has an archaeologically society led by professionals. Most have monthly meetings. Talk to them.

[@boxodrive]

Cool video im glad the algorithm suggested you I've been looking for an entrance to this particular rabbit hole

[@user-bf3pc2qd9s]

"Ice Age explorers"....If I were in an Ice Age I would do zero exploring. Maybe a little relocation from time to time as nature dictated but I can barely move in a British winter in the 21st century as it is so am not a big "exploring" fan. Staying right in that cave, thanking you.

[@BriarLeaf00]

Is cranial morphometrics a kind way of saying phrenology in this context or am I missing something? I could be wrong but I thought the cranial makeup was generally the same across homo sapiens?

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I'm not a bioanth so I'm sure there's a lot more nuance to the distinction than I'm aware of, but broadly speaking, phrenology is concerned with using cranial morphometrics to prove that human races are empirically real biological categories (like species) on a spectrum of superiority, where cranial morphometrics outside of phrenology is just interested in the measurements themselves, usually to attempt to infer ancestry.

[@headlessspaceman5681]

Your video on the Solutrean Hypothesis is the most informative explanation video for this, talking about the good points and bad points... pun intended. I just read Elaine Dewar's Bones, or tried to anyway, but she just kept jamming in all of this bad, outdated science, especially this thing about racial identification from skulls, in a 2001 book, when genetics had already proven in the 1990s all of these ancient bodies (Kennewick, Spirit Cave mummy, etc) were definitely, absolutely Indigenous American, and furthermore that analyzing the skulls as round or gracile was useless, worse than useless. I'm not an archaeologist or a journalist. So if I'm reading a book that is supposed to be a layperson's explanation of archaeology but I already know it's wrong, outdated "evidence" already debunked, who the hell approved the publishing of this book?! I had heard this book described as unbiased but her bias was glaring at me from almost every page and she didn't even try to hide it in the way she characterizes her discussions with various archaeologists, lines like this: "His eyes were bland, blank," talking to Tom Dillehay...

[@mikemcchesney2555]

There is also a third possibility as far as you said: "A fucking idiot." or "A fucking sellout." or "He had very little to no control over what was televised." I have a good bit of history when it comes to TV Production Companies. To be fair to you though, my third possibility is also based on him selling out. LOL Just not as blatantly. When it comes to the subject of "Treasure Hunting", I used to get pitched a minimum of three shows per year. In over six years, I signed on to only one show (Legends of Superstition Mountain) and one "Shopping Agreement". I have a very good reputation in the community, and refused to screw that up for $2000 per episode. Since Wolter has been on a bunch of shows, he likely makes much more than that now, but it typically starts at about $1500-$2000 per episode with a bonus at the 4th episode, and typically about a six show guarantee. The production companies are usually trying to push a story/narrative. They'll film for a week for 30 minutes of show, and you have almost no say-so in how your input is shown or cut up. You ALWAYS have to remember that there is a Television Production Company behind every word that comes out of Wolters Mouth. So, still a sellout, but a sellout with an excuse! HAHAHA

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

He writes books that are equally full of shit, so no, he doesn't have an excuse.

[@mikemcchesney2555]

@@NathanaelFosaaen I hadn't read any of his books. LOL Instead of an excuse its just refuse. Never fear that your money was wasted! Have you priced organic locally sourced sticks that identify as fire kindling lately? $$$

[@spencerme3486]

Thanks for trying accurately depict what’s known or at least what we know so far instead of promoting the scandalous garbage so many try and promote to the credulous and ignorant

[@fgcbrooklyn]

I always make it "this far" because I enjoy the quality of information of these videos and the no-nonsense style in debunking fake "theories" (which Dr. Fosaaen correctly identifies as simple hypotheses -- there is an abyss between the two.)

[@Randy-jl4sf]

You state the beringian land migration being the first was proven/known for ages?? This has been shown false due to DNA from indigenous south americans having Australia/asian DNA?

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

That's from fairly recently. See Stefan Milo's recent review of the subject. He interviews the geneticists who did the analysis.

[@jeremystaples8881]

If we look back in history we see that those who set the standards are not always right. Most of the time they are wrong. Back in the day the world establishment said the word was flat. If you disagreed with that you were punished and often lost your life. You are not someone who deducts or thinks on your own, so you have been programed to believe what ever your told by academia . I think free thinking and investigation is critical. All you do is set back and be critical of everyone that does not go along with your program. That's how we get stuck as a society in a hole that we never get out of. At least he is getting out and digging into and finding results on his own. You on the other hand set at your parents house in the basement on the computer criticizing everyone? You don't know alot of our history just like most others don't. You are and others are just theorizing as well what really happened. We may never have the full picture. Again you don't know the full story either my friend. Your not adding anything that you yourself have found by putting boots on the ground. Just saying, how many of these places have you been yourself? You are not all knowing on history. No one is. So we try to patch as much info that we can together and make alot of educated guesses or theories or hypothesis. Use which ever word you want to use. I find it interesting that you see yourself as the final authority on all this. You should have a little humility my friend. Many views have changed over the millina after more info was gathered so its always a possibility that you both are wrong in alot of your deductions. Have an open mind and stay humble. God bless.

[@jimajello1028]

Archaeology is not an exact science it is a discipline. After extensenve study, research and reconstructive Archaeology I believe everything discovered and interpreted is ment to be continually overturned and possibly reinterpreted. What a great opportunity to see things from many views and gain extensive knowledge. Vincent James Ajello (lithic Technologist/Researcher)

[@gmoney4148]

Bro, thank you so much for asserting facts and not giving credibility to baseless theories that are just as you said disingenuous and truly offensive. There is a problem with eurocentricity in Western archeology and sciences.

[@badguy1481]

THIS guy is the HOME of "baseless theories". Give us a break! You mean to tell us that a few "hunter gatherers", huddling in the cold winters of Northern Minnesota, dug HUNDREDS of mines to get over 500,000,000 pounds of copper...THAT NO ONE HAS FOUND IN NORTH AMERICA? And we're supposed to believe THAT is a better "theory" than Minoans...or Phoenicians...or Egyptions mined that copper and shipped it back to Europe?

[@AdeebaZamaan]

I avoided this "creator" after one program; I wasn't sure why, but he just raised red flags. I had doubts about you but the moment you said "it's not a theory, it's a hypothesis," you had me! At last, someone who understands how science works! Thank you for that. I may actually hang around for your analysis! ❤

[@lostpony4885]

He said "ice bridge" to the smithsonian guy. I was taught "ice bridge" in early grade school then moved and the new grade school taught "land bridge" and i got teased for that. I think the ice bridge theory was first, they crossed the ice that spanned the gap, perhaps before figuring out the lowered ocean levels and exposed land. This mis-visualization comes up a lot in scientific conclusions for example "ice ball" earth theory where the obvious evidence is there was more going on perhaps tectonics or even open gaps etc but if you just look at inadequate data you can say the whole planet was frozen solid and draw sweeping wrong conclusions from that

[@bullettube9863]

In the books I've read on archaeology I have never read that the Clovis type of spear point was the first, but that it was so superior to the previous styles that it became a dominate type. I have also read that the Clovis style can only be used with high quality flint as the central flute will weaken low quality flint. Which means even when the Clovis style was at the height of it's popularity, some tribes would have made a different style of points to suit the quality of the flint they had on hand. It is known that good quality flint was an important trade item and tribes worked hard to acquire it, even traveling long distances to trade for it.

[@jackrifleman562]

A few years ago SW was talking about some big rock found on a beach in (or near) New England that had Latin (or maybe Greek) inscriptions. He was supporting the notion that it was made of Romans or Greeks and that he was going about studying it scientifically. I asked him if he had consulted with a coastal geomorphologist to get some idea as to whether or not the rock could have realistically been in that spot 2K years ago. It was first reported in the late 19th century. I asked him if he had worked the local archives to see if there was any evidence that it was there when Europeans arrived in the area. I asked him if he had considered that at that time a lot of people were getting classical education in languages like Greek and Latin even at the high school level and forging ancient inscriptions was damn near a national past time. Guess what his responses were? He has challenged people to show up on his blog and debate. When Jason Colavito did it ended with SW accusing him of being a troll and refusing to post his comments. The guy is a friggin tool.

[@regex74]

"I love this argument because it's just so fucking stupid." hahaha Great work as always!

[@Lerie2010able]

What would be very useful to me personally would be a list of the fake channels that spout rubbish ... thanks

[@313barrygmail]

You’re commenting on one

[@hillbillyhistorian1863]

@@313barrygmailIt seems that Barry Fell has returned from the dead

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I can give you some good channels a lot easier. Ancient Americas and Stefan Milo are my favorites. Miniminuteman is the most fun and is solid 90% of the time, but he's super young and makes some glaring error from time to time, but he also makes correction vids when that happens. I like what I've seen from Dan Davis and World of Antiquity. I have some disagreements with North02's conclusions sometimes but the facts are generally in order.

[@nancid5265]

actually, I believe I have found something. I stumbled upon something in the desert that appears to back up the Viking boat story. I have no idea who to contact because academia is so quick to dismiss and others are too quick to believe anything.

[@spencerhawk8153]

Thank you for rounding this out based on critical thinking rather than sentiment. I was watching another channel when SW came up as a speaker on some floating seminar. I couldn't believe he was still popular. I'd dismissed him as any type of authority... beyond 'forensic geologist-ing' ... how is he an archaeologist? As a writer, I like to know things, I follow up on stories and tuck away facts of what I'm interested in, history and the truth-of-things tend to attract me. Not saying I use a lot of those facts since I write fiction, but all involve humans. lol. For a little while I was into the TV stuff SW was doing until a particular episode where certain obvious 'facts' were glossed over and no secondary hypothesis explored, it was a once and done, look and reject episode, likely TV centered. A rejection of what obviously needed more exploration. Yet it was this ep which kicked in my critical thinking rather than the 'watching tv mode' of thought. Anyway, thanks Nathanael, keep up your good work.

[@NondescriptMammal]

Wow, that is the stupidest looking thumbnail I've seen on KZbin for at least a week

[@lethargogpeterson4083]

When I saw "NF Archaeology" at the start of this video, I briefly forgot that NF stood for Nathanael Fosaaen. I seriously wondered, since the topic was Scott Wolter again, if "NF Achaeology" stood for "Not F'in Archaeology". (Very dumb of me, but kind of funny anyway.)

[@revolvermaster4939]

I used to watch Scott’s show years ago and saw him as the Graham Hancock of America.

[@eiriksinclair5986]

The main Clovis site on the West Coast is at the same Parallel as the Viking site on the East Coast. Washington DC is at the same Parallel as the Franciscan Bay for which Greek Temples were found that were once erected within Odin's Cobblestone Court in DC. These are not coincidences. They were intentional. They were Guard Stations for the Cretan Guard that discovered America 1200BC, and organized the Norse Community. 2,000 miles to Greenland from Europe. You think they wouldn't go another 100 miles to get to 'Greener pastures'??? Viking ships have been found buried in New York, and uncovered in North Carolina. The dredging of the Mississippi takes place everytime a Viking ship is found.

[@iainmc9859]

I was going to bed but your vlog popped up so I thought I'd join you in a dram and have a wee giggle. Can't we all agree that it was just Saint Brendan in that Belfast to Cairnryan ferry that was blown off course. If this concrete botherer does your nut in, why bother watching him. Okay, I accept that you might be trying to educate those that might struggle with basic concepts but lets face it most of those liable to believe pseudo-science won't have enough spare braincells to know what the difference between a hypothesis and a theory is or be aware of the medias usage of jump cut editing. The disappointing thing is that even trained archaeologists can get stuck in a theory that all of the evidence of the last three decades disproves. I suppose we're all susceptible to having our ego massaged by media coverage.

[@chucklearnslithics3751]

In David Reich's book, "Who We Are And How We Got Here", he has a whole deep chapter on just the Native American DNA work that had been done up to that point (2018). They identified a "ghost population" ( doesn't exist in unmixed form anymore, but left strong signal, and also has no current raw samples DNA on record yet) that likely existed in North Eurasian step somewhere. It then mixed with North Asian, and became Native American. Backing up to the "ghost population", the second strongest DNA signal is a branch of that group that ends up in the northern France area - they do not have the Asian add-mix. But they are the two strongest "cousins" left of the ghost population. My guess is, this is where the conflation between Western European DNA and Native American DNA keeps happening, and more to your point, happened well before modern Europeans existed there. BTW, I think it's cool that the native Americans are genetically unique because of this ghost population. The France version is very watered down, while Americans are still largely of that group. Their DNA even tells of their deep and unique history, well before they were even in the Americas!

[@debikami1]

Yup! He came to Sierra Vista Az saying the fake runes were real. He’s a ding dong for sure!

[@badguy1481]

So in YOUR "expert" opinion...those runes are "fake"?

[@sandyroo1980]

I think where many folks get hung up is not understanding that today's people from the same area are NOT the same people as WERE there, back then. Historically.

[@Randy-jl4sf]

Speaking of DNA evidence- how do you explain the European, not African, Asian, or southeast Asian/Australian aborigines DNA found in North American natives?

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

There isn't any European DNA in Native Americans before 500 years ago.

[@timturk1899]

Oceans as highways..?! Well, they do have a Rowboat race across The Atlantic Ocean, annually, I believe..?! 2 person teams, so one could sleep, while the other rowed. These Rowboats were covered. Almost like using another Rowboat upside down. This may have been in case of rolling over..?! I only saw a Sports clip about the race, and which team won. Within the last year or so, a Paraplegic man, from the knees down, rowed a Rowboat across The Atlantic Ocean. This was a regular looking Rowboat, nothing on top. Of course, he was being watched and filmed for the event, for the entire journey. Probably easily available footage online. I was shocked to hear about, and see people racing across The Atlantic, in Rowboats. And then seeing one man do it, who had lost his legs from the knees down (from a military explosive, while serving, I believe), really did shock me. I've always been taught it took huge ships with many men, and of course, huge, giant sails. Nah, just a Rowboat! Thanks for the great video. I'll make sure to follow you. They've changed our real history, it seems. Even old newspaper microfilm, from the late 1800's, have journalists speaking of those who were here before The Native Americans. I guess referring to whoever built these incredible buildings, supposedly in a 2 or 3 decade period, of the late 1800's throughout The USA. Like the 1893 World's Fair, and The US Capitol buildings. Built in a few years, but I've never seen any blueprints. Only color sketches of the plans, or sketches of what was already there..?! Too strange!👍💯✌️

[@dixietenbroeck8425]

I've had TWO comments "retracted" now, comments that were not offensive whatsoever. NOT GOOD! Take care of your liver, Nathanael. Irritating people like that just AREN'T WORTH YOUR SACRIFICE!

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Yeah I noticed that. No idea what that was about.

[@lostpony4885]

Land bridge's actual geography is a major important topic. To do an animation that even has clouds and then make no effort to show the actual land mass outline....dang thats the only actually interesting real fact in this story.

[@rogerclark263]

Happy to see you take on misinformation and hoax claims! You should know that there is a book titled "Hoax Springs Eternal" and Wolter made the book for his promotion of the "Kensington Ruin Stone" in Minnesota! Look it up.

[@brendacooper5729]

Even if hypothetically Clovis were the descendants of Solutreans, 1200 years ago, and they were the ancestors of the Windover skeletons, there were people in America at least 23 thousand years ago, which predates the disappearance of the Solutreans in the first place, I also don't see that even if there was anomalous DNA in one of the skeletons, it would not be a big deal. Chances are some folks did get across the ice during the glacial maximum, folks hunting seals and other ice age sea fauna would have had the tools and knowledge to have done so, I'd be sort of surprised if none of them did, but a handful of seal hunters dropping in on an already well populated Turtle Island, are not a bid deal, and so far they don't seem to have left any DNA tracks behind, but there are populations in Asia that also don't seem to have left any traceable DNA in the present populations so the absence of DNA just proves if they did arrive they didn't make much of an impression with the local ladies. I'm much more intrigued by the Australasian DNA found in South America, to me that does indicate a likely non Beringian entrance to America.

[@steventhompson399]

I remember seeing him on a history channel show earlier in the 2000s when I was a teenager and even back then, when my knowledge of history before the 19th C was sketchy, I thought he was full of crap. I remember another episode you commented on where he linked the naturally pure copper in Michigan to the eastern Mediterranean bronze age lol that was so goofy, who buys his crap anyway, why did he get a tv show?

[@bensabelhaus7288]

A "serious documentary" collaboration between him and Graham Hancock would be quite uh ......... Factual lol And hilarious Edit: Pitch time. "Hunting Hercules"

[@lostpony4885]

Clovis points are a perfect illustration of the difference between a culture and a tool tradition. Clovis people "disappeated" by downsizing their points to the smaller prey of their day. By this standard you could say i "disappeared" from my Amiga computer culture when it went extinct when i just used PCs after that

[@scottowens1535]

Seems like made for tv entertainment. Should have a bold disclaimer. This is messed up on many levels. With all the cheesey interpretations and just absolute junior thinkers on television what is a regular guy just interested in the subject supposed to think after being bombarded with bull crap for so long. I truly believe that there's been many people going back and forth but many didn't survive and the story wouldn't be available through genetics. Gut feeling tells me that there's much more and a unacknowledged bias has shaped thinking. Watching that play out real time with Zentner and the a-z series ice age floods finishing up soon.

[@BrianDoherty-e8s]

Wolter is five parts theatre and one part trailer park "science." Good idea to have a couple snorts of whiskey watching this guy's stuff. Got to give it to him though, the musical soundtrack is like something right out of Indiana Jones.

[@Petticca]

@13:00 "What do you think is the truth?" Firstly, it doesn't matter what anyone _thinks_ is the _truth_ . The word truth, included as though it is, appropriately and correctly, used to signal that presented shortly, here, actually some "truth" told about X, in contrast to 'the lie' about X that is told everywhere else. Secondly, even if this BS use of "truth" wasn't inserted, and instead we got to hear from someone who would be presented as openly acknowledgjng they're advancing an unsubstantiated, intellectually honest 'idea', 'pet theory', 'hypothesis', or fanciful 'possible explanation'; the musings of someone whose relevant qualification is being "A local woman", render this entire exchange pointless. This particular interaction would have just as much merit, and be of as much benefit, if instead he'd asked, 'What's the most batshit explanation you can create, from scratch, in the time it takes me to count to ten? Go!' And then he responded with 'I don't think that's batshit at all, because, many "scholars" today accept batshit assertions and what is entailed by them, to be factually correct; they just don't usually publish papers about it, in credible academic journals, for critical peer review, because they're shy, or some shit. ' FFS, the premise for this is 'A local woman thinks dozens of scientists in numerous fields have published utterly nonsensical bollocks, when presenting work on literally any aspect of, or regarding contents located within, the discovery of a site of numerous, naturally preserved, (in ancient swamps) remains of humans, native to the region, who lived thousands of years ago. She's pretty convinced she 'knows' what all those moronic scientists and academics clearly didn't, and so she contacts the world's greatest "forensic geologist." (Obviously) to get him on the case! It is absolutely fkn absurd. And it's patently obvious that even this absurd premise is as fictional as the history this guy asserts... Their acting skills are as proportionally strong, as being a "forensic geologist" and "a local woman" are to actually possessing relevant expertise and knowledge on this subject. JFC. I know I'm repeating myself now, but this entire premise is absolutely fkn absurd.

[@grendelgrendelsson5493]

I only discovered your channel today, and very enjoyable it is! Why anyone would give credence to anything Scott Wolters suggests in any of his programmes that I have viewed boggles my mind. He is as much of a sensationalist pillock as Graham Hancock. As to the idea that any boat constructed by the Solutreans could withstand the North Atlantic on the fringes of an enormous ice sheet seems rather implausible. My uncles served in the Royal Navy on North Atlantic and Arctic convoys during WW2 and their experiences of extreme weather makes up my mind that no band of hunter gatherers could have made such a voyage. In short, Mr Wolter talks complete bollocks.

[@MogofWar]

15:20 - 15:50 I like how you bring up the Yamnaya culture. They are an important ancestral population to Modern Europeans and their diaspora... And present the strongest evidence AGAINST the Solutrean Hypothesis. Long and the short of it. The IndoAnatolian and Proto-IndoEuropean populations have a shared Central Asian ancestor with the specific Siberian populations who first peopled the Americas. This means any genetic similarity between Europeans and unadmixed Native Americans would actually weaken the Solutrean Hypothesis because those similarities are not coming from European Hunter-Gatherers, but from IndoEuropeans and their shared ancestry with Siberians.

[@ahzzz-realm]

I have dis liked his presentations for a while but no expertise to counter. Thank you. also, I would like to hear your take on the possibility of migration in from south pacific to the Americas. Mont Verde especially.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Give Stefan Milo's video on Pacific / South American genetic ties a look. I think he addressed that briefly and he's spend much more time on that genetics research than I have.

[@artharrison9586]

I’m sorry Nathanael, it’s obvious that this is so painful to you. You shouldn’t have to watch an amateur sensationalist do an independent slaughter of basic anthropology practice.

[@SunflowerHeather]

Thank you always look forward to hearing you, appreciate your professional opinion

[@davidsigler9690]

I place Wolter's show right up there in belivability with "Ancient Aliens, Curse of Oak Island, and the three dollar bill....I'll stick with reading Archeaology Magazine and a few selected youtube channels on the subject for my factual history.

[@lesjones5684]

I think you need Alcoholics Anonymous 😂😂😂😂

[@BluesMcGoo]

Scott Wolter and Graham Hancock are my spirit animals.

[@AlbertaGeek]

IOW, you simp grifters.

[@eiriksinclair5986]

Mr. Fosaaen, I think the point being made here is something you haven't addressed. When Rome defeated Carthage (the reigning power at the time) - 2,000 years of history were swept under the rug. Thus, you are basing your assumptions on false premises which are delivered by the republic of religions that defeated Carthage which was founded by the Cretans who started civilization itself. The Pre-Columbian history of America is being concealed because it doesn't sit well with the people who committed genocide of the Viking race. The Pre-Biblical history of the Aegean is being concealed because it doesn't sit well with the people who overthrew Greece and instituted Democracy, which is in essence the racial discrimination of the Titan race. WW2 saw the extinction of the Titan race. This is the Aesir-Vanir War. The Grecco-Roman War. The Eastern Roman Empire vs. the Western Roman Empire. You haven't addressed why you say people who have evidence of these people are in your mind considered ignorant or fringe??? Censorship is law here in America. Mass media limits the influence of all history relating to the Byzantine Empire in America. A leading member of a religion once told me, "We conquered them in America, we conquered them in South America after the Civil War, we gave them Germany so they wouldn't go extinct... the Germans did not remain in the territory that they were given, thus they were exterminated." You are clearly indoctrinated to the fake dating of archeological finds, the bogus Bering Sea land bridge which no one has proven that it ever existed. People haven't been dated to the Mediterranean to the extent they pose dating Indians to America. It is completely made up! I know, because I have access to the records belonging to the people who discovered America. They were defeated, and erased.

[@Beaker709]

Are there still some people who still don't believe that Europeans came to North America before 1492??? For those with doubts, come up here to Lanse aux Meadows in Newfoundland, where they discovered a Norse settlement from about 1000 A.D.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Yes, and then they proceeded to have no impact on anyone else in North America. They showed up for a few years and then left. But more importantly, 1000 years ago isn't the same thing as over 10,000 years ago.

[@Beaker709]

@NathanaelFosaaen The statement I wanted to disprove was that no Europeans reached North America before 1492. I did not make any statement regarding the impact they made or if there were people before them.

[@cecileroy557]

I loved Unearthed... for awhile - then I gave up on it.... I wouldn't ever want to call Wolter "names" but if a show, or anything else, doesn't ring true I'm done with it.

[@sagewraith]

Nathaniel, I'm a big fan. I love your videos. But your critiques of the Solutrean hypothesis don't hold water. I find Solutrean artifacts in Central Alabama frequently.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I am confident that you do not.

[@sagewraith]

@@NathanaelFosaaen the big blind spot in modern archaeology is private collectors. How can you be so confident of what you cannot see?

[@TMan3158]

Good job, I like how you point out the fallacies and misrepresentation in his show. Maybe you should review other shows also.

[@chassmith6778]

Cool, I just checked out Origin, by Jennifer Raff from the library. Thank you for the recommendation

[@shamoy1000]

He's a TV presenter.

[@jenningscampbell3475]

I used to follow his shows until he started getting further and further out into left field. He has never proven any of his theories and it was all wishful thinking on his part.

[@jeremystaples8881]

Nate you have to be one of the most brilliant men of all times. Thanks for blessing us with such an abundance of wisdom and knowlege. I see that you got your dagree at one of the highest esteemed universities. With all your academic knowlege you should be in Egypt enlighting the world of its unknown history. We are curious as to why you are not out leading an expedition right now? Please tell us when is your next expedition?

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I know you're being facetious, but A. I don't give a rat's ass about Egypt B. I'm a faunal specialist on a site that I actually care about right now.

[@missourimongoose8858]

Well they did youtube boxing and tictok boxing now we need real archeologists vs the ancient aliens crew lol

[@hayswan14]

Me (mechanical engineer): I'm an experimental archaeologist, specializing in the post-post classical era, with over ten years of experience. You should turn this into a drinking game next time.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I have that for ancient aliens.

[@johannageisel5390]

Me (a gardener): I'm an archeologist, specializing in the post-WWII period. My most spectacular find so far was a small chicken figurine out of tin. I have published a paper about the chicken worship in Europe in the late 20th and early 21st century.

[@stantheman3292]

Man, you are so wrong that boats were not used to cross oceans in antiquity. (Easter Island for example)

[@davecannabis]

4:51 is where he lost all credibility for me when he said "theory" instead of "hypothesis", showing he doesnt know what a theory in science means, huge red flag for me, also he goes on about a 5,000 mile trip over an ice desert as and being more believabl eand better than a 15,000 trip following game

[@timhicks2866]

Hey man, you're great and I appreciate your knowledge as well as you shoot 'em straight approach. And screw that egotistic money making drama queen. But I want you to know you' cracking me up. Seriously, no disrespect what so ever. More like I'm diggin' your style and love how you hit it hard

[@bryanbradshaw4257]

I am very guilty of listening to some of these types of programs and completely believing what they say. I can give them credit for energizing my interest. I am so glad, as an amateur, I found a site that made me look at how science-based analysis sees these things. I've learned to surface hunt. I've learned "Clovis" is just technology. We have transitional technology. Now that I'm more educated on this I see the bs for what it is. It is an example of dumbing down society. This channel and others like it should be promoted as educational tools and get way more exposure than this. Personally, I believe man has been on this continent for at least 35,000 years but that is my UNPROVEN belief. The sad part is these types programs give no reference to how someone has there idea proven in science. People interested need to learn how science works and that's sad it's missed.

[@Cheepchipsable]

LOL, does this guy think prehistoric peoples had maps to follow?

[@kevinbell3465]

I have to ask, so there was no one on this continent before the migration from Asia

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Which migration? because it does look like there were several waves of movement out of Siberia/Beringia. But the thing is, they all look to have come from Siberia specifically.

[@missourimongoose8858]

​@@NathanaelFosaaenI've always wondered how big of skin boats ancient man could of built with the animals that were around back then if they did take the sea voyage route to the America's from Russia

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@missourimongoose8858 I don’t mean to brag, but two canoes could be made out of my foreskin. 😮

[@MarcosElMalo2]

The overwhelming evidence is for migration from Asia. Recent work has been uncovering evidence of multiple waves going back further than previously thought.

[@kevinbell3465]

Some now claim the first people to arrive We’re from the South Pacific some claim Africa, and others the Mediterranean have you ever researched? what different tribes in our country in their oral history have to say

[@stantheman3292]

I think he was talking about page ladsen points when comparing to Solutrean….. I like Stanfords ideas

[@J.Battles]

These type folks and their bs annoy me to no end, i can't imagine how it makes you feel.

[@elfrad1714]

I would agree with the assessment that the Solutrean hypothesis is highly problematic. Had Europeans journeyed there in great numbers we would have DNA evidence. This does not mean, however, that Europeans could not have crossed the Atlantic following the edge of the ice. Just because they made it there does not mean they would leave behind genetic evidence. Quite possibly they went extinct. But they could have crossed. After all, the Polynesians crossed even vaster distances in the Pacific.

[@jonwhisler6967]

its shows like that which primed the sheep for Q-anon

[@MarcosElMalo2]

100%. He even talks about the theory that the Smithsonian is suppressing evidence.

[@harrycarter1722]

Please explain why pacific to NA makes more sense than a far shorter distance, with established collonisation makes more sense. Not slamming either. Just questioning you.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I have a whole video on the genetic and artifactual evidence relevant to the first settlement of the Americas, including the Solutrean hypothesis. Go check that out. There's a link to it in the video description.

[@b.a.erlebacher1139]

It's not as if all the people of Eurasia got together 20,000 years ago, decided that people should go to Florida and then debated which was the best route! Eurasia and the Americas were one big landmass, connected by Beringia. People living there and moving around had no concept that they were colonizing another continent.

[@harrycarter1722]

Well.. OK. I grew up in southeast Ga. Mom gave over 2200 pieces of pottery to Science Museum. We pulled potteey n occasional, not many , arrow or knife points. I have no disrespect but still have absutely no concept of why a degree means a thing in this field. I do get at least discipline. No idea why you think your profs have anymore than you.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

@harrycarter1722 it's not like getting a degree is just sitting in a lecture hall listening to some professor spout their opinions. We have to read the excavation reports from sites all over the country. We evaluate statistical analyses. We do our own original work. In my case, I've been excavating and analyzing these sites for 12 years. I disagree with my professors plenty, but not about whether people from Europe seeded the Clovis tradition. Do you know how Optically Stimulated Lumenescence dating works? What about a mass spectrometer? Do you know how speleothems are used to reconstruct environmental changes over thousands of years or why that method even works? Developing a deep intuitive understanding of these things only scratches the surface of why a degree matters.

[@barrydysert2974]

​@@NathanaelFosaaenKudos! His post makes me wonder how old He was when He dropped out of school.

[@MakeShiftProduction]

Do you truly bring a table cloth and skulls to all motels with you or do you call to make arrangements before hand? Comment Option #2: "his experience has nothing to do with archaeology" He says as he sips his 3rd drink at Motel 6.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

I travel with my skulls.

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@NathanaelFosaaen I travel with just the one.

[@varealestate77]

frankly I trust Mr. Wolter's science and knowledge as more accurate than most archaeologists. Standard academics must stick to old ways of thinking otherwise they can't get a degree or respect. Mr. Wolter goes by the evidence, whether or not it agrees with the academic opinion. no academic dares say anything that is not agreeable to their colleagues. so they resort to name calling

[@AlbertaGeek]

You really don't know how academia works.

[@theroguespointpirate7447]

LoL this is the same episode I was hollering at the TV

[@bstone2b]

I don't think Scott's show is supposed to be taken seriously. It's more like Indiana Jones...

[@doncook2054]

Thank You, Nathaniel; SW has been, and always will be a conman, conning the public with ... lies. His "facts" aren't facts ... just hot air; his research specious; and, his conclusions plucked from thin air ... I like real archaeology; like You gave us today.

[@onenewworldmonkey]

I dig your channel. As for the skull thing, I really liked Thomas Jefferson's book about Virginia, which, incidentally, reminded me of Lewis and Clark's Journal. I was surprised that Jefferson dug up dead Indians. The big problem with his book was one single page. In that page he talked as racist as possible. As a result of that page no one reads the book, but , more importantly the science community tried to prove his point with skull measurements as though they were non-bias; a flaw that even happens today. I even read Darwin noted an example from these scientists in his origin of a species book (to me, his book sucked and could have been done in 50 pages-his trip on the beagle was a million times better) I read an old article about how Clovis people didn't really focus on killing Mammoths because the results of their scientific experiments PROVED the points couldn't penetrate far enough into a mammoth to be relevant-perhaps even you believe this. XXXXXXXXXXX important part-----In a book about finding the origin of the Nile river the author conveyed how natives killed elephants without the use of guns. While distracting the elephant, a quick hunter ran up behind the elephant and sliced its achilles tendon with a sharp knife. I have seen proof that flint can be sharper than steel. I have no doubt this method was used on mammoths. There have been a dozen sites with both mammoth remains and clovis points and I'm sure they killed them more often than those using a scientific method believe. Focus should be put on this failure of science. I have had a life long passion of hunting methods. I feel I was the only student at Penn State who checked a trap line before class in the 80s. I can tell you how they killed mammoths, mountain lions, foxes, and pretty much any thing that walked or crawled. I am confident the archaeological community knows none of them, yet what do I know? I've only been building bows, arrows, clothes, traps, etc for 50 years. I'm retired and read over 100 non-fiction books per year. Perhaps I should write my own book about the methods I've discovered.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Definitely write that book.

[@benallen7793]

What does Siberia have in common with the Clovis tool kit? From everything I’ve read there hasn’t been any Clovis points found in Siberia…. No lithic technology from Siberia aligns with that tool kit…. European solutrean culture does. Enlighten this ignorant layman please… I’m still failing to make the connection other than what is a genetic connection. Also why would the majority of Clovis points be found here in middle Tennessee/east coast and not in the Pacific Northwest or New Mexico? If they are descendants from Siberia why is there 0 to very little connection to the tool kits/ techniques used in making clovis tools? Great video brother. Loved the content and knowledge shared. Just wanna pick you brain if I can.

[@NathanaelFosaaen]

Go watch the solutrean video.

[@benallen7793]

@@NathanaelFosaaen I definitely will brother

[@benallen7793]

@@NathanaelFosaaen Thank you 🙏🏻

[@ddenten5581]

What!? Don"t trust the Histrionics Channel? 🤣🤣

[@stantheman3292]

All I know is that you dont get to Windover by airboat, you drive to it in your honda civic……lol@tv

[@lostpony4885]

Speaking of civilization is meaningless, i wonder: is the subversion of ones own needs demanded by "civilization" even possible without substances like alcohol? Or is that a requirement of abandoning your own interests to serve a master with labor all day in hopes of low nutrient high calorie foods

[@paulfreeman23000]

I would like to disagree about the Solutrean Hypothesis, lots of lithics in my collection say they were here. Peace Brother

[@ambitiousdentist6076]

new sub, please normalize your intro / voice audio! enjoyed your content.

[@clarkblount7788]

Considering the native populations of Greenland and Iceland, I feel your statments regarding deep water travel in the North sea, miss the boat.