ARCHAEOLOGY NEWS - Epic mosaic discovery - Rutland Roman villa in a field, Greek myth - Time Team

[@jjteacher7482]

Yes! John finally found the Roman mosaic Tony was always asking for.

[@joshschneider9766]

The most evocative and dramatic version of the illiad possible on a Roman villa in england. Absolutely fantastic!

[@corbinbacon9043]

Straight into my "liked" and saved into "watch later". I'm so glad time team has come back for a second wind!!

[@RobBoudreau]

Absolutely stunning discovery. It's great to see David Neal still digging and adding to his collection of mosaics, just wonderful. Thank you Dani!

[@IAlwaysWantedToTryThat]

Worth considering, the Greek plays in the ancient Golden Era of Drama (Aeschylus, Euripedes, Sophocles, and Aristophanes) only performed their play once, at the Theater of Dionysus at the foot of the Acropolis in Athens. The expense for each play was paid for by the wealthiest members of the city, who could opt to pay for a play or fully outfit a trireme (how wild it is to think of a world where the arts and defense are on equal priorities). The earliest of Aeschylus's plays I believe were paid for by Pericles, the "father of Democracy" in Athens, although that name may be due to his savvy use of propoganda and theater. But I digress... the players in each play were given a living expense during the year they spent learning the play by rote (no plays of Aeschylus at least were ever written down in his lifetime), but many became wealthy after the play's performance by being bards-for-hire, with the wealthy and nobility of all of Greece and even beyond hiring them to come perform the play for private events. It's likely that this continued well into the Roman occupation period, with plays still being performed by professional roving dramatists all around the empire. It's very possible this could be the means of the story landing in Britain. Either way, incredible discovery & very thankful for the discussion!

[@briansjonesy77]

Greetings from USA! It must be so exciting to have these hidden gems dotted all over the country just waiting to be found!

[@PortmanRd]

New dig site planned for Hadrian's wall.

[@choklityum]

An amazing piece of history! So glad to be able to join the Time Team for their new adventures!

[@letiekllib]

* As I prepare to endure the ensuing "covid winter" I am appreciative of Time Team and how they keep humanity engaged in the pursuit and understanding of our curious species. The prerequisite of all intelligent tinkering begins with maintaining all the pieces. I salute you from afar and hope to return soon. billkeitel. U.S.A.

[@shakapedia17]

It's always great to see something new in the past. Passed but not forgotten.

[@favouritemoon4133]

That was great, and it would be fantastic to hear Jim's account of finding such treasures on land he had walked on for so many years previously.

[@mozdickson]

Hear, hear! YES please. I'm sure he has some great anecdotes and insights, knowing that land and climate etc so well.

[@belendemaria1989]

Thank you for this amazing interview! Such an incredible discovery, I'm very grateful for this chance to hear experts discussing it.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

Amazing that you got Toyah onto Time Team!

[@robynw6307]

Stunning find. Simply stunning. It's so lovely to see such an in-tact example of Roman mosaic.

[@worldcapers]

What a fabulous Roman Mosaic telling the story of a central episode from The Iliad, the duel between Hector and Achilles. Stylistically this mosaic reminds me of a local Somerset Roman mosaic now in the Taunton Museum which tells the tragic love story of Dido and Aeneas. Well worth a visit to the museum to see it if you can!

[@Liz-sc5dg]

Fascinating Time Team video and discussion! Thank you. My curious question is what happens to the landowner and his land when a significant find is listed? Thanks from Canada

[@highpath4776]

If there is a mosaic on the floor, what would have been on the walls (if any - walls or decoration?)

[@biologychic7292]

Yay! I can’t wait to see all of the new digs 🙌🏻

[@donnal.oglesby4806]

Very Interesting read, we had a news post of this, here Over the pond, that ran though Yahoo News, that I was reading about and first thought was, Oh I wish Time Team had found it. I can just imagine Phil finding something like this and just getting all giddy about it with his OHH AWWW. I read that there were TWO separate discoveries actually, this one and one other?? and that BOTH pieces were from Homer's Iliad??

[@nexussever]

What a great interview!

[@patwithers1448]

Love from the old lady in Texas may God bless you always and forever

[@antonychapman2406]

Fascinating. One of the best interviews. Loved the way in which the story in the iliad has been changed over time. And what a beautiful mosaic.

[@Becca2334]

What an amazing video and what a great find. Blessings to all over there!🤗

[@imbwildrd3693]

Well the thumbnail sure is intriguing.....and absolutely stunning!!

[@IamBlueCat666]

Love the new info. Keep it coming🍀

[@DrivermanO]

Faacinating. What a fortunate farmer to have this amazing stuff under his field. But what I never understand is how when the mosaics are discovered, there always seem to be big chunks missing. You'd have thought that if it was plough damage, someone might have noticed the coloured pieces of the mosaic being turned up to the surface. But I suppse they are small and muddy - but there are a lot of them!

[@dogwalker666]

Could have been rabbits, moles or even badgers digging through.

[@sarahv1876]

some of the damage may have been done as the buildings fell into disuse / were destroyed and then later buried

[@dogwalker666]

@@sarahv1876 good point.

[@nodarkthings]

The first thing I thought when I heard about this was the legend that links Britain with Troy.

[@davidcaldecoat7414]

WOW WHAT AN AMAZING DISCOVERY

[@markstephens8396]

Absolutely fantastic!

[@vincentkermorgant]

Nice. Found the location of the Villa on Google maps ;)

[@silva7493]

What a spectacular thing it is. I'd love to see a rendering with the original colors all trued up. I wonder what kind of room it would be, where you'd see a floor as such a beautiful art piece. Certainly you wouldn't cover it in carpet and furniture. I just can't picture putting anything on it at all.

[@glennroy2747]

It amazes me the history that is underfoot in Briton. Beautiful.

[@thickernell]

Incredible!

[@mozdickson]

5:32 John's pooch contributes a canine perspective to the amazing find. Apparently there are bones? But seriously WELL DONE to the landowners, for being aware, inquisitive, alert and ethical. May every blessing be upon them and their land, which has harboured this amazing treasure for so long, and is now shared with anyone interested!

[@annafaber4007]

What a find!!!! this is realy great!!

[@Merylstreep1949]

Awesome Dani❤❤❤❤❤👌

[@MsRain49]

How exciting! 💗

[@lisamoore6804]

Wow, this is awesome.

[@andrewwhelan7311]

Ancient British myth in an ancient British Villa in an ancient British field.

[@chrisdarry-roseelrod4481]

That is an amazing find. What does it mean to be a scheduled monument and what happens to the land around it?

[@graemebrumfitt6668]

WOW what a find! TFS, GB :)

[@0623kaboom]

nice hope time team gets a chance to work in the site and see what else they can discover or bring to light about the locaton and villa etc

[@0623kaboom]

hearing all the suspected and discovered items I dont think it's a villa but a theater school ...

[@MichaelHolloway]

Hooray! that the University was able to innovate a regulatory solution / make the dig happen!

[@mozdickson]

chortle! Took 14 meetings of the Deans and 2 Academic Boards and 3 Council resolution and 2 OHS Risk reviews.

[@celinem8456]

Great piece! Will the mosaic be removed to preserve it? And are the landowners compensated for the impact of the excavations on their land and/or when the land or parts thereof becomes a listed ancient monument. Thank you Time Team!

[@ellenl.5581]

I want to see a mosaic lifted. How many time digs have have been revisited and completed. Gophis must be so much more effecient now.

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

Thank you.

[@arctic_haze]

"In the middle of Britain". I appreciate the great discovery but isn't it rather the middle of England?

[@Merylstreep1949]

Rutland, home of The Rutles,the greatest band ever

[@machellep1]

So what happens to the farmers land.. does he just loose it ?

[@frankschroth4038]

When is Time Team showing a new episode like they used to be? I mean you're announcing and announcing but nothing happens!!!

[@TimeTeamOfficial]

Spring 2022. More details here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGOUZpmOeNqAsK8

[@classicambo9781]

Check it out now Frank!

[@nigeldawson5960]

Where is Phil? And Francis?

[@radman8321]

Hopefully a glorious rebirth.

[@suziewheeler6530]

Well if brutus the last prince of troy founded Briton and the Scottish welsh and irish were originally Greek from troy this would not be so odd...because everyone coming from troy would have had this story ingrained in them...and the story in the original form would have been known

[@BadgerBishop]

This mosaic is like what a fan of Hamilton would have instead of having actual historic stuff.

[@Bowie_E]

🙏 Thank you 🤗

[@ledacedar6253]

Lovin yah 'eh! BC, Canada

[@trevorpayne9671]

There can be another reason for this mosaic's existence: namely the ancient fable that the Trojans came to England under Brutus, son/grandson of Aeneas, founder of Rome. The Stone of London is supposed to be laid by this Brutus.

[@mike_lowndes]

looks like someone stole/removed Achilles (panels 2 and 3) in antiquity.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

Shared

[@lnbjr7]

Great reporting of this incredible discovery. Please consider providing Dani with a lest stark background. Anything to reduce the stark white wall behind her would be a tremendous step in the right direction!

[@margielewis6009]

like the movie , TROY is like the story,good to know it is real

[@pilkipilki4472]

She had to smile

[@SevCaswell]

Patrocles wasn't Achillies 'best friend' they wre lovers, sheeh.

[@djehuti3]

Brilliant discovery and fascinating details in the mosaic. It is alway striking to me however how inferior artistically the mosaics of Britain are when compared to the wonders we see in Italy - especially Rome itself. Which is not surprising - we were a distant outpost of the empire.

[@wirehead1000]

The prominence of the chariot may be a British view of the Greek Age of Heroes, as the Brits were some of the last Europeans to abandon chariot warfare. The Celtic naked Celtic Gae Satae laminate well to the Greco-Anatolian Bronze Age Hero mythos. The Kouros of pre-classical Greece are the naked heroes in pre-classic statuary. British tradition lists Brut of Troy as ancestral to the British royals, so Britain claims Troy (as does the Latins) as their royal antecedent.

[@benediktmorak4409]

says premiere i n11 Minutes, thin i will make me Coffee, go to the toilet, and than can watch without interruption...

[@BigGMK]

Right in the centre of Britain?

[@JonFrumTheFirst]

He says that scheduling is rare. A quick look at Wikipedia tells me that there are about 20,000 scheduled monuments in England, and 'tens of thousands' in the UK. Also that there is no appeal. Hmmm ...

[@gagatube]

He was saying scheduling of a 'farm find' or a previously unknown item was rare. Scheduling of existing castles, bridges, houses, standing stones, churches, stately homes and the like is not so rare.

[@TheEhreilly]

'best friend' ;p

[@mudgetheexpendable]

Glorious mosaic! "Funny" how all the damage includes the genitalia....

[@Ijusthopeitsquick]

John...Thomas?

[@jessiebrader2926]

Yes, and the villa was owned by Biggus Dickus, what are the chances of that?

[@juhonieminen4219]

All about that huge mosaic screams mid-life crisis of some rich dude: fast carts and shirtless Achilles as giga Chad. Think about your own dad ordering such art to the living room and buying a Ferrari at his 50 years birthday. Kids in that household have propably been embarassed of all the luxury and Alpha male memes. Maybe the lady of the house has deceased and the guy is living his second youth, visioning him self as the Greek hero. Just saying. I've been a keen reader of roman letters and poetry my whole life. People have not really changed that much in two millenia.

[@jamesgibbs9043]

I was so thrilled that Time Team was coming back.... this show has all the appeal of a Zoom call -you don't even have a background....

[@TimeTeamOfficial]

Hi James, the new episodes are currently in post-production and will be available on this channel in Spring 2022. While we're working on the bigger projects, we like to share more regular interviews and other news stories from the wider world of archaeology for those who wish to dig a little deeper.

[@monham5041]

One criticism. Too much talking and not enough showing what has been found. People watch this to see what has been found not listen to two people getting excited about things that were not shown.

[@bobbeckman3735]

What do I want - people digging in the dirt. What do I get? - Interviews. When does the digging start?

[@Hurricaneintheroom]

Pesky Romans always leaving their mosaic's lying around everywhere. LOL

[@susanmyers1899]

To much talk not enough visuals.

[@petermitchell6348]

"Put down in 700 ish"!? I think she meant to say 700BC!!

[@tonywatson987]

No Romans in Britain until 54BC, but colonisation only really started in 43AD.

[@petermitchell6348]

@@tonywatson987 I was quoting her in reference to the Greeks and the Illiad :)

[@tonywatson987]

@@petermitchell6348 Sorry Peter; yes, you're absolutely right!

[@petermitchell6348]

@@tonywatson987 No probs mate. :)

[@annitelford8437]

Central to England NOT Britain as the female presenter suggests. She really needs to lose her English bias.

[@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96]

who cares

[@juhonieminen4219]

The deep message of Iliad has sadly declined into an action comedy there, with no understanding of the tragedy of war. The posh romano-british living in a cozy villa know little about loss, or the madness of battle, where no amount of spilled blood will bring the satisfaction of revenge to Achilles. Pretty mosaic with childish storytelling.

[@uncletomcobley6950]

Preach almighty authority...

[@philroberts7238]

Well, that's the Tories for you! *;)*

[@philroberts7238]

And in fact throughout their history the Romans were pretty partial to the spilling of blood - it was their most popular form of mass entertainment, in fact. All civilisations, including our own, have their plusses and minuses - a lesson that the "anti-woke brigade" seem to have a little difficulty coming to terms with at the moment! Hopefully, archaeologists, historians and all the other experts ("who needs them?") can keep their cool when all around them are losing theirs!

[@lenabreijer1311]

Or the owner was intimately familiar with warfare and considered this to be the pinnacle of war experience. I doubt you could live in the Roman empire without knowing war.

[@juhonieminen4219]

I am amazed not one of you have read the Iliad. Shame on you. And the remake: Illiad and Furious anno 300: Fast carts, hero with no shirt, weighing in gold literally, no longer a metaphor of grieving of the father.