Architecture Schools are BROKEN - But A RENAISSANCE Is Coming

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The Aesthetic City

The Aesthetic City

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@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
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@Sohave
@Sohave 3 ай бұрын
This video is gold for me! I have long been looking for a school that taught classical architecture, had this existed two decades earlier I would have gone that way with my career.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 3 ай бұрын
😂The main problem is always cost. want to be as crazy as architectural design. Construction and maintenance costs always add up to its beauty
@Novusod
@Novusod 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of "Tartaria" theory? I think you should make a video on the so called Qanon of Architecture. It is not the merits of the theory that are important but they way it has spread by feeding off the latent backlash against modernism. The public is so fed up with modernism at this point that they will entertain any nonsense that can possibly save them from the dystopian hell hole that is our modern built environment.
@rocketman1058
@rocketman1058 3 ай бұрын
I agree with the concept of architectural "brainwashing", I've used this term before and it truly describes well the modern teaching process. Another problem is that cities are designed by the architects, and they don't manage well what's built and what's not, hence modern public spaces suck!
@Sam-wq9qo
@Sam-wq9qo 3 ай бұрын
Yo make a video on indian architecture of its temple carvings and steeless and cementless construction style
@lyndonarana9408
@lyndonarana9408 3 ай бұрын
As an Architect myself, it's not the modernist designs that irks me. It's getting to that design mentality directly WITHOUT studying or even appreciating the classical designs. We should be masters of BOTH, it's never too late to study. Great video!
@raconteur5195
@raconteur5195 3 ай бұрын
City and state government employees are the biggest problem. They approve and even require ugly modern buildings.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
So, no studying classical designs? Why not learn from it? An architect doesn't necessarily need to use it directly, only learn - that is the point of this video! Thank you for replying :)
@lykuned
@lykuned 2 ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city His point was that every architect should know classical architecture even if you are going to design modernist works.
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh Ай бұрын
Architects don't understand why (some) classical architecture works so well. PoMo demonstrated this failure. They've thought that stripping classicism down to it's "essence" and embarking on political polemics that were completely irrelevant to ordinary people was somehow a way out of the dead-end that the International Style lead them to. Subitizing and visual processing efficency are probably the two most important aspects of why classical designs "work" but contemporary architects have convinced themselves ideologically that (early 20th century) science cannot shed light on how a building affects a human being.
@paolomasone3754
@paolomasone3754 Ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city I don't think that Lyndonarana said not to study classical design; just the opposite. I read that lyndonarana said to also study modern and other examples of good design.
@AlexanderofMiletus
@AlexanderofMiletus 3 ай бұрын
“What I wanted to learn, isn’t being taught” I feel you bro
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
It’s sad - but much can all be found in books!
@gabrielg.2401
@gabrielg.2401 Ай бұрын
pretty much everything these days has gone to shit
@JM-hf9bl
@JM-hf9bl Ай бұрын
​@@gabrielg.2401yes, the degeneracy is real and everywhere. On a good note, I'll take beautiful buildings designed with the help of AI over human ego driven ugly ones
@DeltaXrayCharlie
@DeltaXrayCharlie Ай бұрын
Feels like everything
@todorkovacevic
@todorkovacevic Ай бұрын
Happened to me when I came to art school wanting to learn how to draw and paint
@thebreadbringer
@thebreadbringer 3 ай бұрын
I'm very glad to hear someone say it. It's infuriating how anti-common people a lot of the artistic academic world is. They keep forcing works into public spaces that people without an art history education can not appreciate because it hinges entirely on external context rather than the work itself being appealing.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely - the 'ivory tower' problem is a huge one and artists need to take this into account somehow.
@bobtaylor170
@bobtaylor170 3 ай бұрын
I'm 72, and consider that much of my life has been compromised by the grotesque ugliness of contemporary architecture. It seems like a horrible joke, but The Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health may be the epitome of outrageousness. I don't know much about what The Lou Ruvo Center does, but suspect that much of it has to do with treatment of traumatic brain injury patients. It's dreadful that the building was designed as it was. However, as a TBI survivor, I can't help seeing the bleak humor in it. In America, The National Civic Arts Society is fighting the good fight for a return of beauty to design. I urge everyone who reads this to go to their website. President Trump had signed an executive order which authorized that in the future, government buildings were to be designed according to classical standards. Of course, Biden reversed this. Is anyone surprised?
@mitchellcouchman1444
@mitchellcouchman1444 3 ай бұрын
All of the academic world has become anti-common people not just the artistic side
@sheridansherr8974
@sheridansherr8974 3 ай бұрын
Yes!👍
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 3 ай бұрын
Very well said. To me, it’s not about doing away with concepts like “form follows function”, but about accepting that a building’s beauty - as appreciated by common people - is very much a function of a building. I’m so glad that this new architectural movement seems to be gaining traction.
@ivanarchit
@ivanarchit 3 ай бұрын
I studied architecture in Ukraine in Lviv Polythechnic University and in the first 2 courses of study we studied how people used to build before in 15-17 cent., we made drawings of historical buildings, plans, sections, painted with watercolors, it was studing of classical architefcture the same as in the University of Notre Dame, and at the same time we studied how to design modern architecture. For me it was a big surprise that in the German universities where I finished my master's degree, students did not study this, and 99% of students could not create correct technical sketches by hand, in addition, to enter the faculty of architecture in Ukraine, you have to take a creative exam - draw an antique column, an abstract composition and solve an architectural task, in Germany you just submit your school grades and that's it, so many people in this profession are amateurs here
@mike_teals
@mike_teals 3 ай бұрын
Закончил второй курс программы архитектуры в одном из московских вузов... Действительно, поначалу изучали класич. архи, но теперь, когда пришла пора делать свои проекты, преподы с ума сходят когда предлагаешь им поработать в традиционной стилистике... Начинают тараторить что-то про цыганщину( Очень не хочется думать, что оставшиеся 3 года бакалавриата буду проектировать хлам с параметрическими фасадами...
@ivanarchit
@ivanarchit 3 ай бұрын
@@mike_teals sorry, I don't understand bulgarian, can you speak normall language, like English for example?
@o.3825
@o.3825 3 ай бұрын
We also not making fire with wooden sticks we use a lighter. Using the computer is no issue it's only how you use it. As an architect myself who did the long way from technical school to Uni i think that's what most architects miss. Knowledge of how you make/build it not just drawing with a pencil.
@allermenchenaufder
@allermenchenaufder 3 ай бұрын
@@o.3825. Modernist who broke away from traditional curriculum were very creative. Disappointing how the 21st century stepped into the wrong path. . .
@adaslesniak
@adaslesniak 3 ай бұрын
@@o.3825 If you can't draw a shape by hand... it's not about hand, it's about not seeing clearly in your imagination. So drawing by hand is training your imagination, not let the computer drop ideas on me and I'll merge them.
@jelsner5077
@jelsner5077 3 ай бұрын
I have been crying for another Renaissance in Architecture for years. So wonderful to see it happening. I dearly hope this goes "mainstream."
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
It's up to the new generation of architects! If they demand change, it can happen
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 3 ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_citybeware us from thousands of museal copies of old styles. Do domething new! Dont be lazy and just copy! Find out the real reason people like old bulldings and create new styles from these basic pronciples!
@adrienm1964
@adrienm1964 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if we called it a "Neorenaissance" Era in this search for regaining tradition.
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 3 ай бұрын
@@adrienm1964 ? regaining tradition? no-thanks. We can do houses more beautiful but there is really no need to rectrate old styles.
@jelsner5077
@jelsner5077 3 ай бұрын
@@matswessling6600 The original Renaissance architecture was a "rebirth" in interest of the Classical era. The Baroque continued on that theme, making it its own unique style. The Beaux Arts school freshened classical architecture once again to fit a new century. What they all have in common is the base understanding of the original Classical style, harkening back to ancient Greece and Rome, but tweaking it a little to fit the then contemporary time. We could do that again for the 21st century. But we have to first teach the basics: Proportion. The Classic Orders. Perspective. The importance of light and shadow...Play with the basics and make them relevant to today. But don't toss them out completely. They WORK. They can still work. Instead of "Neo-Renaissance" or "Renaissance Revival" (which the Victorians have already taken) I would prefer to call this movement something original.
@Connor_Roush
@Connor_Roush 3 ай бұрын
Modern architecture aesthetics was a massive mistake.
@ehjo4904
@ehjo4904 3 ай бұрын
do you wear the same way like one century ago . Nope .
@Connor_Roush
@Connor_Roush 3 ай бұрын
@@ehjo4904 good design aesthetics will last centuries. Modern design will be out dated in 20 years. Cope and seethe. lol.
@TheMastaRob
@TheMastaRob 3 ай бұрын
Does modern architecture even have aesthetics? The word means the study or appreciation of beauty - something modern architecture actively frowns upon.
@celdur4635
@celdur4635 3 ай бұрын
@@ehjo4904 Buildings have to stand beautiful for centuries, clothes not so much. Having said that, luxury clothes from millenia past still looks nice.
@ehjo4904
@ehjo4904 3 ай бұрын
@@celdur4635 Pretty sure like most you do not make the same effort to dress like people did one hundred years ago. Time change
@tomybartok99
@tomybartok99 3 ай бұрын
It's not just architecture. Everything is turning soo boring. Cost saving and minimalisim has seeped into everything and has gone too far
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
I feel something is fundamentally wrong with our economy. As I’m not an economist, I cannot exactly explain what though… Maybe the ‘Bitcoin Urbanists’ are on to something?
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
I feel something is fundamentally wrong with our economy. As I’m not an economist, I cannot exactly explain what though… Maybe the ‘Bitcoin Urbanists’ are on to something?
@tomybartok99
@tomybartok99 3 ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city I believe unrestricted consumerism is catching up with us. Infinite growth within a finite system is not sustainable long term. But businessmen still value quantity over quality, which is a shame.
@vmoses1979
@vmoses1979 3 ай бұрын
I think the impact of the allure of money and fame is missing from the video. To become a starchitect - a term invented in the last 40 years or so - you have to design something different and outlandish. Something that really sticks out so that your friends in the academy can pronounce you the new new thing. And then clients will flock to you and then each time you have to design something even more different and outlandish to keep the new clients happy and keep the rigamarole going. Architecture now is not about designing useful structures for all stakeholders - it's about maximizing one's own income and reputation.
@royalecrafts6252
@royalecrafts6252 3 ай бұрын
Well....people dont have money or want to take risks to design something different or special, is not a problem of architectural design, thats just a sympton
@Admre
@Admre 3 ай бұрын
Modernist buildings get worse with age. Traditional buildings get better with age as they begin to look more “lived in”
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Agree!
@bensonboys6609
@bensonboys6609 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! The more fringe/new something is, the faster it goes out of style. I love the looks of the city blocks shown in the video! They are gorgeous! They looked good the day they were made and look good now. I wonder if it will ever be in style to intentionally weather a building/new development to make it look established.
@FranceFloorball1
@FranceFloorball1 2 ай бұрын
I live in an European city, where we have huge amounts of old buildings. By the look of them, they most of them were built in the 18th and 19th century. They are still in use and are maintained. How sustainable is that? They look very nice and especially so after they get cleaned off the 100 years of muck on them. They of course have their own problems like ridiculous room height: something like 4 meters, where a front door can be 2 by 3 meters. That height wastes huge amount of energy in winter and it also wastes vertical space. The waste of space can be limited a little by making a loft, but you can't have a loft in every room. Also staircases don't often have space for an elevator, which makes life in upper floors difficult. Adding the room height with that and fourth floor is in modern terms sixth floor apartment without an elevator. Not very convenient.
@MajasDad
@MajasDad 2 ай бұрын
That depends entirely on the quality of materials used.
@fulippuannaghiti1965
@fulippuannaghiti1965 2 ай бұрын
How would you stop an unstoppable trend such as mass production and globalization? Inaccessibility, strong values, affinity with nature and slow pace are what helped us to get the best art in the world. Once we started industrialization, automation, accessibility and even worse AI and 3D printers, we have access to a cheap fast product so industrial minimalism is what we get. Whenever a new aesthetic trend similar to the classical one will come back it will not be less mass produced, industrialised, made affordable and accessible than any minimalistic design. A big reset is what we need, we are already a saturated society.
@lochlansmith6611
@lochlansmith6611 3 ай бұрын
I just graduated from college and it was this channel, right as it started, that introduced me to traditional architecture and urbanism. My last year of college, my architecture professors didn’t like my work because it wasn’t modern. My professors were always trying to get me to design modern things. I'm so excited to keep learning about traditional architecture and urbanism and practice it in my career.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
That is fantastic to read - thank you for watching and I hope you find everything on your journey!
@iamsoogi
@iamsoogi 3 ай бұрын
I know! they hated my work too because I was trying to design primitive huts and circular plans which was supposed to be about community. Modern architecture is for the modern dystopia we live in today- isolated and in despair.
@Novusod
@Novusod 3 ай бұрын
Your professors are a bunch of old farts who have their heads stuck up their ass. They don't realize how much their skit is hated by the general public.
@awakening8887
@awakening8887 3 ай бұрын
We need a million more of you. Don’t ever give up. Your work is badly needed.
@futureradius
@futureradius 3 ай бұрын
I think i was like you in the first years of college, but at some point i tried to open up to their ideas and understand what they really want. I found that they cared just as much and were excited about materiality and beauty. They were just searching it beyond what is already known, which tbh complicates the search a lot haha :D Nothing wrong with dusting off the books about ornamentation from the different points in time in the past
@maxsch.7743
@maxsch.7743 3 ай бұрын
Saying we don't need old materials and ideas because we have new ones is like to say we don't need teeth because we have blenders.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
😂 brilliant way to put it!
@sorbabaric1
@sorbabaric1 3 ай бұрын
And now a lot of problems with teeth are attributed to our modern soft diet . . . Along with the receding weak jaw. Which is also perceived as less attractive. Chewing food helps develop strong even well placed teeth, in well developed jaws that provide space and foundation for the teeth.
@johnd.2114
@johnd.2114 3 ай бұрын
Basically the equivalent of replacing all food with slop because they can. A truly revolting mentality.
@ladycactus110
@ladycactus110 Ай бұрын
@@sorbabaric1Humans need MEAT!
@paolomasone3754
@paolomasone3754 Ай бұрын
there are plenty of modern buildings that use traditional masonry, wood, concrete, glass, ceramics, metals, and other materials found in historical architecture.
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon 3 ай бұрын
What I hate most about postmodern architecture is the hypocrisy, especially its terms like "false historical". With this false idea they impose a bad reconstruction of a part of the building, if they are not rebuilding it, they are ruining it. The other term that I hate the most is historicism, but modern architects have been copying Bauhaus for more than 100 years. Modern architects contradict themselves, or are hypocrites, because when they imitate a style they are modern and original, but if an architect wants to build a building with a traditional design is treated as average. The other problem is eclecticism, modern architects criticize eclectisism, but they have been mixing concepts of modern architecture, in themselves they are eclepticists, but when they do it it is fine, if an architect wants to mix concepts of human history they treat him as If you are doing something wrong. The last point is that modern architecture goes against the concepts of the Bauhaus, since many buildings are useless, roofs that retain water, unnecessary shapes that increase the cost of the building, above all they are narcissistic because they design only for their own. ego, the monsters they create are just to draw attention to themselves that's fine. These people are the ones who criticized and demonized as "useless and banal" the sumptuous and beautiful facades of beauty arts architecture. When beauty attracts attention they criticize it, but attracting attention is good if it is to inflate the ego of a mediocre postmodern architect.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely true, the hypocrisy is what bothers me most as well. If architects are supposed to have total design freedom, then why isn’t it allowed to design traditionally? Etc, etc.. And referring to Bauhaus is by now also referring to a design tradition, but apparently that is allowed
@gingi453
@gingi453 3 ай бұрын
technological advances like a good flat roof or glass window are good, but do not replace the human intellect that can also create sensual art..with details, shapes and even colors, that the modern cannot even recognize as part of a public communication about space and architecture..we need our cultural routes back..the modern is for a money-slave society not for intelligent and creative people..
@Novusod
@Novusod 3 ай бұрын
We need to stop calling Modernist architecture "modern." There is nothing modern about it. It is just a bunch of stale ideas from the 1930s and '40s that have been rehashed over and over again. Calling 80 year old ideas modern is absurd and we need to stop calling it that. These styles should be called Mid-Century Simplicity and Abstraction or MCSA for short. This is the first step in making this crap go away. Rename it, can it, and dump it in the trash bin of history under failed ideas.
@unternehme
@unternehme 3 ай бұрын
The current minimalist dullness is the result of the denigration of historicism and eclectism, which instead I find the most fascinating cultural and architectural movements ever. Instead of "loving to hate" anything before modernism (while hypocritically and mindlessly replicating the same instructions from the 1940s), I believe we should strip away the modernist dogmatism that sees anything historicist and eclectic as intrinsically evil and cherish the beauty and playfulness it has created and that most people around the world appreciate.
@thebreadbringer
@thebreadbringer 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more. As much as I personally dislike modernist architecture, I only hate it for the way that it has become dogmatic, elitist, and intolerant of other artistic movements.
@hedzerroodenburgvermaat5008
@hedzerroodenburgvermaat5008 3 ай бұрын
So recognizable! During my time at university I remember a student who was told by a teacher that he could better leave architecture school after he had shown his traditional design. During my first design studio, a student in my group who designed a traditional house got the lowest grade of the group; and guess what the others designed? A modernist house of course, because this is what the teacher seemed to appreciate. This has to change!
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 3 ай бұрын
That’s because many do not understand there is a philosophy behind all this hideous design.
@miguel3105
@miguel3105 Ай бұрын
What you call modernist was probably about fluid space, clean interiors, clever insertion on the context and multipurpose solutions. What you call traditional was probably about rigid schemes, outdated decoration, building understood as an isolated composition and fake historic look. Here you are some possible reasons for the grades. It's not about styles. It's about contemporary answers to contemporary problems...
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft Ай бұрын
@@miguel3105 Traditional or classical design is a philosophy of natural design. It is based on human creation.
@30035XD
@30035XD 3 ай бұрын
I dropped my dream of becoming an architect for reasons shared here. Now at 40, it feels too late for me. I feel personally robbed, along with others who prefer living in beautiful spaces instead of brutalistic nightmares. Thank you for the beautiful work you do, sir.
@damiano_ferraro
@damiano_ferraro 3 ай бұрын
You don't need a degree to be an architect, and is never too late if you have talent.
@Huma_RS
@Huma_RS 3 ай бұрын
Seconding that it's never too late, best wishes!
@glazedbeachbro3926
@glazedbeachbro3926 3 ай бұрын
Yes understandable
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
It's never too late. Start drawing every day, read a number of great books and you can become very good still
@30035XD
@30035XD 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to all for the support. I have a dream and it might still be worth fighting for it.
@toniderdon
@toniderdon 3 ай бұрын
I'm planning on building my own traditional neighborhood in the future. Pray for me that I get enough money to start that project :D
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
That sounds like an awesome project!
@nt3264
@nt3264 3 ай бұрын
GOOD LUCK!!!
@Sohave
@Sohave 3 ай бұрын
That is ambitious but the best of luck to you!
@bradmakesgains8779
@bradmakesgains8779 3 ай бұрын
How will we know if you succeed? Do you have a site scoped out or a name for it? I already want to live there.
@lolajl
@lolajl 3 ай бұрын
Have you looked at Andrew Gould? He has interesting concepts for traditional neighborhoods.
@daxisperry7644
@daxisperry7644 3 ай бұрын
I do NOT want to learn minimalism. I want to make Beautiful and functional buildings.
@paolomasone3754
@paolomasone3754 Ай бұрын
Then study how to do it in the most beautiful, economical and appropriate way! This may be modern or it may be traditional. You are cutting off one of your hands by denying the reality of the requirements for getting to build these days.
@JohnnyArtPavlou
@JohnnyArtPavlou 22 күн бұрын
Of course, beauty is a function…
@ludekz.773
@ludekz.773 3 ай бұрын
This is like a delicious meal for soul. Especially in Modernity and Bauhaus obsessed Czech Republic. We will be late to join this positive revolution, as we always are, with everything. PS Im too old to study now but boy if there was a school like Notre dame in Czech republic...Damn this hurts
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
That is great to hear - we need schools like this in every country
@jirislavicek9954
@jirislavicek9954 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!!! The Czech Republic has some of the world's finest cultural heritage: gothic, renaissance, baroque, Czech, Austro-Hungarian, German. Even pre-WWII industrial architecture like factory halls or railway infrastructure has some aesthetic value. Everything built after WWII, during the communist era or after 1990 is just plain ugly. With extremely rare exceptions. We absolutely need New Renaissance and start building beautiful houses again! 👍
@notteilsaggio
@notteilsaggio 2 ай бұрын
@@jirislavicek9954 Never been in CR, but have often visited Bulgaria, I suppose that the 1940/1980 part is really similar. As an Italian Architect I had no knowledge of the socialist buildings and ,after a deep observation, I think there's lot to learn from them, not only from the technical part, but even for the aestethics. They are part of the global history, as well as the Golden Gate, the Eiffel tower, Saint Denis or the Pisa tower. Each journey is made of single steps.
@Scriabin_fan
@Scriabin_fan 2 ай бұрын
I like the modern aesthetic. But personally I’d love a blend of modern aesthetic with the classical. That being said, the modern aesthetic grew out of an environment of pessimism and destruction of the old world that was brought by the carnage of WW2 . The modern aesthetic is an important part of human history and should not be trashed and scrapped from history imo. It is just as valid as the old aesthetics that focused heavily on beauty.
@SirThomasHarber
@SirThomasHarber 3 ай бұрын
This is spot on. I grew up thinking I'd become an architect. I went to the University of Minnesota for Architecture and lost my love for it because it was a brainwashing factory for modernism and sustainability. I ended up in marketing.
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h 3 ай бұрын
That’s even worst then lmao
@o.3825
@o.3825 3 ай бұрын
Thank god marketing is no brainwashing factory ;)
@futureradius
@futureradius 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you see sustainability as something negative, what do you mean with that?
@raconteur5195
@raconteur5195 3 ай бұрын
Let's force our cities to stop building modernism. Isn't that the best solution?
@SirThomasHarber
@SirThomasHarber 3 ай бұрын
@@futureradiusnot per se, but it was overemphasized in my opinion compared to other critical factors in design.
@eazydee5757
@eazydee5757 3 ай бұрын
Classical/traditional architectural styles in the United States still exist in the many cities and towns of the East Coast north of Florida, and in the city of Chicago, but is increasingly uncommon everywhere else in the United States. And unlike all the boxy or cube-shaped urban-located buildings commonly associated with modern architecture, it’s usually office parks, strip malls, warehouses, grade schools which take much more space than they normally should, and cookie-cutter tract homes. Sometimes, you will see buildings that look traditionally-designed, but are designed in a way that heavily favors automobiles over pedestrians, which leads to a lot of places that genuinely feel artificial and unnatural despite having a traditionally-designed facade.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, the US needs good urbanism in addition to good architecture… thank you for replying 🙏🏼
@m.miskicreativeartarchitec733
@m.miskicreativeartarchitec733 2 ай бұрын
Being an Architect myself who graduated more than 40 years ago, I agree that modern architecture allows for many ugly and unnecessary “experimental” ideas and forms. However, reverting to the Renaissance is as much unnecessary solution. Regardless if we consider modern day-to-day life is better or worse than that of Brunelleschi’s, modern times have (and got to have) a totally different set of values and needs that Renaissance architecture is in no way capable of answering to. Each era has a set of needs and values that should be reflected in its arts and architecture. Borrowing from the past is some sort of bankruptcy of creativity. Anyway, I thank you for the video, I enjoyed it.
@tjbren576
@tjbren576 3 ай бұрын
I was very disappointed when I started my college career in architecture. I was already restoring old buildings and had design philosophies shoved at me that I did not agree with or want to have any part in. It eventually ended my desire to be an architect. I spent the next 40 years restoring and designing historically inspired spaces, including my own homes.
@paolomasone3754
@paolomasone3754 Ай бұрын
Good for you! I agree that architecture school faculties are full of a$$h@les! I taught at one for a few years and regret being one of those despicables a few times. I did teach studios on classical design, however...
@BamberdittoPingpong
@BamberdittoPingpong 3 ай бұрын
Many people imagine the 2100s or 2200s as this glass utopia full of neo-futurism style buildings, but I like to imagine it having transferred to building traditional and classical styles of architecture, with modernist/contemporary/futurist architecture having just been an edgy phase of the architectural field.
@MrToradragon
@MrToradragon 3 ай бұрын
I think it is due to extrapolation from one point, or very short period, and then we all are influenced by sci-fi of 1950-1970's and then we just tend to iterate over those tropes and features. Like, flying cars, like superwide highways, sleek space ships or touchscreen interface that we are slowly starting to hate. Everything is delivered by air or by some gimmick at the edge of physics. And we do not see, or not often, a train or ships used for transport, it still feels like those posters and ideas from 50's, yes the design, clothes and so had changed, but in the core, it is still the same concepts of mid 20th century. Another problem IMHO is that in the past architecture went in spiral and iterated over itself (classical, classicism, neoclassicism) and those took like century after which it went for inspiration back a century or two, but today we iterate over decades instead of centuries. Another thing to consider is that dictatorships of the 20th century loved those "traditional" buildings so the free world perhaps felt need to distance itself from those dictatorships. I am not sure that in the future we would be building in some neoneogothic style, unless we will seriously mess something up, but I think that we will see some revival of more classical designs, maybe in form of layouts or in form of some ornamentation or materials (but that depends on whether we would be talking about houses or public buildings). Maybe we will go back to ornamented columns first? Or maybe frieze will return as it should be easy to produce with our modern machinery? I don't know, but I would say hat this is the way how classical elements can return into current and future architecture.
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon 3 ай бұрын
For me the worst is: eco futurism, they believe that by putting plants the building is "ecological", or they make it less ugly, when it is appearances and without practicality, they never question the humidity problems that a building full of plants would have, The cost of doing this would create more CO2 than making a normal building, ecofuturism is dystopian and polluting. But a traditional brick building of 5 to 7 floors, endure 100 years or more, this is truly ecological.
@cazaresjulian14
@cazaresjulian14 3 ай бұрын
@@ReyneArturiaPenededragon That is spot on! Imagine how quickly plant buildings degrade due to humidity! They would fall apart so quickly and produce more pollution in maintenance or just the destruction of the building in the end, and are also a waste of money.
@elliaka6196
@elliaka6196 3 ай бұрын
Oh my god this video encompass every thought i have so far in architecture school to the smallest details, even my thought that ornamentation and other older techniques are locked on the past only for existing buildings.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@Ooopsiedazi
@Ooopsiedazi 3 ай бұрын
As a interior design student, I feel rather drained as my love for ornate classical and humane design are at conflict with most of my peers prefer for minimalism.
@andybrice2711
@andybrice2711 3 ай бұрын
Get good at both, it's all about context. You wouldn't want a minimalist pub, and you wouldn't want an ornate dental surgery.
@tristanthamm505
@tristanthamm505 3 ай бұрын
I actually prefer minimalism for interior design, because it allows for more space which I think is what is most important for the most amount of people. However exterior design operates under a different paradigm and should be focused on beauty.
@andybrice2711
@andybrice2711 3 ай бұрын
​@@tristanthamm505 Yeah, I know what you mean, there is something cool about classical building with clean modern interiors. Like St Pancras Station. Or National Trust tearooms.
@CharlesKruger1942
@CharlesKruger1942 2 ай бұрын
You can do that with modern design. This video is worthless. Bad design is bad design. It’s not about modern vs traditional
@lagringa7518
@lagringa7518 2 ай бұрын
Because they've either never traveled, think it will be easier to keep clean (not) or that's all they see being pushed by interior designers... and frankly most people are sheep and think they have to follow 'trends' because they have no taste or style of their own. For example I lived in Italy for 25 years, when I first got there pointy witches toe shoes were all the rage... thank god that finally ended, then the last 15 years everything was grey inside and out, tile, paint, furniture... but in northern Italy it's grey all winter long, why the hell would you want that in your home on a cold, freezing winter night???!! Actually the Italians (not all but most of the youngsters) are worse at following trends than Americans are, it's just dumb. Baa. Be yourself and embrace what makes you happy in your nest, and your job as a future Interior Designer is to lead them to the warmth of an eclectic interior with some character that doesn't look like they could efficiently dissect a neighbor on their kitchen island. 🤣
@Demi-Son
@Demi-Son 3 ай бұрын
I just came back from Austria and I met an Austrian student who is studying Architecture in Vienna. I asked him about his thoughts on modern architecture and why there are no beautiful buildings anymore, he said "A part of the reason is that whenever we (the students) draft old style buildings for our lecturer, it is immediately dismissed on the grounds of it being seen as "copying" or not "nothing new". Then when we draft something Modern, it's approved". Shame, especially since Vienna has some beautiful buildings, as well as all of Austria.
@daxisperry7644
@daxisperry7644 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like the stereotypical idea of New = Better Old = Bad Change = Progress But there’s no thought to bad change or good change. SOMETIMES the people in the past got it right. Why not keep the good parts (like the beautiful architecture)?
@daxisperry7644
@daxisperry7644 3 ай бұрын
@@Demi-Son amen
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
An interesting case is the Luftwaffe headquarters built during the Third Reich. It truly is a classic case of brutalist architecture. When one considers how the Luftwaffe destroyed massive sections of beautiful and historic European architectural and cultural history, it seems an apt style for their HQ. The retaliation in carpet bombing by the Allies then led to a vicious circle. The loser was Europe as a whole. The controlling elite at Western architectural schools would do well to study the Luftwaffe HQ and reflect on the destructive implications (on aesthetic, cultural and spiritual levels) of their policy misdirection.
@productivitywithphilipp
@productivitywithphilipp 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, most of the new buildings in Vienna look like they were built in Minecraft
@productivitywithphilipp
@productivitywithphilipp 3 ай бұрын
@nomadicfrankland it's still beautiful in the center but most of the buildings built after WWI are an abomination.
@alexsmith-ob3lu
@alexsmith-ob3lu 3 ай бұрын
Here in America, I would love to see a renaissance of Richardsonian Romanesque, Art Deco and Neo Classical architecture!
@ajkandy
@ajkandy 3 ай бұрын
You’d like the work of HBRA, they’re the firm that did the Harold Washington Library in Chicago. They’ve done lots of classical extensions to campus buildings, and also do (nice) modern stuff.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@bobtaylor170
@bobtaylor170 3 ай бұрын
The National Civic Arts Society. Go to their website. You'll like what you find there.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 3 ай бұрын
There are Art Deco revival buildings happening across New York and Chicago. They're not usually publicised. The Brooklyn Tower is a recent one that got some attention.
@HickoryDickory86
@HickoryDickory86 3 ай бұрын
@alexsmith-ob3lu Don't forget Gothic Revival! 🥰
@Rahshu
@Rahshu 3 ай бұрын
I hope a renaissance is occurring! It'd be nice to see new things going up and not feel either indifferent or grossed out, especially when it's amidst beautiful classical stuff. It'd be nice to look forward to something for a change.
@YoJesusMorales
@YoJesusMorales 3 ай бұрын
I like how the student was talking about it, the challenges old architects faced and their solutions for it informed their design, that's how it should be. I don't particularly care if it's replicating a classical historical design, just make it look good while tackling the local challenges and give it that local aesthetic touch.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more!
@paolomasone3754
@paolomasone3754 18 күн бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city well, I guess you need to redo your little video here, the, because that is not what you say.
@colbystearns5238
@colbystearns5238 3 ай бұрын
Frank Lloyd Wright actually used quite a bit of ornament in his buildings. The Hollyhock House in LA for example has abstract, stylized depictions of the hollyhock flower throughout the property.
@franklynyadaicela2010
@franklynyadaicela2010 3 ай бұрын
As a current student in a top modernist school this video is spot on and change must and will happen.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Thank you - I hope students will find this and get in action!
@Sohave
@Sohave 3 ай бұрын
I hope that you will somehow also be able to learn some classical principles so you can branch out to that and ride both winds as times change.
@paolomasone3754
@paolomasone3754 Ай бұрын
change will happen. then that will change too.
@Vixth14
@Vixth14 3 ай бұрын
The only diversity that truly matters is the diversity of thought
@jirislavicek9954
@jirislavicek9954 3 ай бұрын
Which is desperately missing in the current western society
@deepoole820
@deepoole820 3 ай бұрын
Yes please! Our cities are so ugly. The only beautiful bits are hundreds of years old.
@hongpaulsy3811
@hongpaulsy3811 2 ай бұрын
As a field architect, I fully agree with your arguments. What I feel through various experiences over the past 30 years of work is that people want to be touched in a variety of ways through architecture. However, they are users and not clients. Clients are only interested in profits from sales and rental income, and public clients are only interested in political propaganda. From south korean architect
@HenryB353
@HenryB353 2 ай бұрын
I'm a civil engineering student, and when I asked my teacher why we didn't learn how to build and design in styles like neoclassical, Victorian... She told me that it was all outdated. That it is expensive to build, and that if we build like we used to, this would be a "cultural" appropriation from another time, something that can no longer be built, as this building would not have a history.
@gingererer7806
@gingererer7806 2 ай бұрын
how silly because one day we will be the history!
@samuelphillips7391
@samuelphillips7391 3 ай бұрын
In Charleston, SC, there’s a mixed use apartment complex going up that takes inspiration from the history of the city and utilizes traditional architectural design that’s seeking to beautify the city and its skyline while also being a place people can actually live in. It’s a breath of fresh air after seeing two identical postmodern buildings go up on an adjacent street.
@Strideo1
@Strideo1 22 күн бұрын
Cities with historical charm that value their traditional architecture are leading the charge. When they realize people come to their cities for the historical charm and traditional look they begin to realize they should not only preserve it but actually make more of it.
@2mains234
@2mains234 3 ай бұрын
The thing I hated most about architects when I was working in the construction industry was their lack of technical ability. I was witness to several incidents where drawings were returned. Reasons included missing information, conflicting dimensions and materials needing to be formed in a way that is impossible (and there was me thinking it obvious that granite is inflexible). Bering in mind that having to delay work to wait on the architect to fix a design problem generally doesn't go down well with the client as well as making the contractor look incompetent. It was always preferable to do everything possible to build as per original design, even if it was a massive hassle.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 3 ай бұрын
Classical architects were versed in both design and building. The orders in classic design were not stylistic but practical in nature.
@treinenliefde
@treinenliefde 3 ай бұрын
​@Art-is-craft Here in the Netherlands architecture is only possible as a master programme, after three or four years of building engineering. You start out with the history, the materials, detailing, constructions and all that stuff, and only after that you can start a pure architecture study. Having studied with students from across the globe this is so different. I remember class mates from Asia for example who had never drawn a single technical drawing or something, being completely shocked by the Dutch way of combining technical and esthetic qualities.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 3 ай бұрын
@@treinenliefde Classical architects first trained in the building process. Their apprenticeship started with building. They understood through experience the process of building. Today’s architects are designers.
@treinenliefde
@treinenliefde 3 ай бұрын
@@Art-is-craft indeed, and that's the way it should be everywhere. You can't design something without understanding it.
@Fessel34
@Fessel34 3 ай бұрын
The dream of a modern architect is an engineer’s nightmare.
@michaelepp6212
@michaelepp6212 3 ай бұрын
Cities worldwide, before 1900, were humanity's 'old growth forests', and were devastated (clearcut) in the 20th century, mainly because of cars. But restoration of some kind is still possible.
@RonRobertson-lafrance
@RonRobertson-lafrance 3 ай бұрын
That's a pretty good analogy, actually.
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
As well as cars I would say the origins of this mindless destruction had roots in a form of cultural and spiritual nihilism. It was a suicidal tendency that is revealed in the nightmares of post WW II architectural exteriors. These exteriors reflect the inner bankruptcy.
@screwstatists7324
@screwstatists7324 Ай бұрын
These cities grew up under federalism and monarchy as free and private cities are property to be developed into beautiful places, not a canvass for shallow demagouges
@user-so8pe2qm7n
@user-so8pe2qm7n 3 ай бұрын
There are many buildings in Japan with terrible designs. The few historical buildings remaining after the war have been demolished due to the Japanese belief in new construction, maintenance costs, natural disasters, and other reasons. In addition, ordinary Japanese citizens have no interest in architectural design, and designs by famous architects are praised and built. There is no continuity in the streetscape and it is in a miserable state, which is very unfortunate.😢
@gingi453
@gingi453 3 ай бұрын
they were destroyed in WWII by atomic bombs culturally too..
@user-so8pe2qm7n
@user-so8pe2qm7n 3 ай бұрын
That is true, but in modern Japan, there are many demolition projects due to redevelopment or scrap-and-build construction.
@joenuts5167
@joenuts5167 3 ай бұрын
@@gingi453what?😂
@sarahdias7779
@sarahdias7779 3 ай бұрын
I seen this video of architects praising this building in Japan talking about how wonderful it is but it was so inconvenient for the locals it was such an inconvenient structure and people were having troubles finding their way.
@mborder8428
@mborder8428 3 ай бұрын
Some of the ugliest streetscapes I've seen in a developed country were in Japan, surprisingly.
@TheImmortalArt
@TheImmortalArt 3 ай бұрын
Dude! So happy that this is the only KZbin channel that speaks about the real art of architecture and city planning! Great work, great job, as usual!
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!! 🙏🏼
@P_NG
@P_NG 3 ай бұрын
As an ex-architecture student, I can say this is quite true. However, this discourse needs to be nuanced : architecture is part of a larger building industry. This industry immensely prefers modern architecture : cheaper, easier, simpler. My professors' main argument against ornamentation were concerns about cost more than style/doctrine. Students are very much left to figure things by themselves however...
@userofthetube2701
@userofthetube2701 3 ай бұрын
This Renaissance of traditional architecture is fantastic, but it's only half of the solution. Up until the early 20th century there existed an incredible infrastructure, with highly skilled artisans, to provide architectural ornamentation and decoration on a truly industrial scale. The rise of modernism virtually wiped this out. Which means that we need to start training the stonemasons, carpenters, plasterers, painters, etc. in traditional techniques. Otherwise, with the exception of a few high-profile buildings, there will be no one to actually realize the awesome designs these students are making.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Fully agree - we need both the knowledge and a revival of the crafts, and the second one will be much harder. But it’s also a chicken & egg problem: without architects who design ornament let’s say, there is no need for craftsmanship. Demand will lead to supply, and more supply will bring costs down. It will be hard but I do see a way
@jonaw.2153
@jonaw.2153 3 ай бұрын
The lack of proper architecture programs (read: programs that actually teach architecture rather than modernist politics in an architecture package) is what drove me away from studying architecture. I can definitely understand your experience at seeing the students' works at Nôtre Dame.
@adamclabaugh1945
@adamclabaugh1945 3 ай бұрын
It does not shock me at all that these are all very well-known catholic schools in the states. There has been a huge shift in the catholic world back towards tradition.
@adamclabaugh1945
@adamclabaugh1945 3 ай бұрын
Well not Utah valley but the point stands.
@stephenbenderplus
@stephenbenderplus 2 ай бұрын
Utah Valley is located near Provo, which is near Salt Lake City, a religious conservative area, not Catholic but similarly backward looking.
@VeritasIncrebresco
@VeritasIncrebresco 3 ай бұрын
NYC here, I'm getting real tired of seeing giant glass rectangles with zero character. Hudson yards is a perfect example, it's depressing.
@robertn2951
@robertn2951 3 ай бұрын
I salute your commitment to change the way architechture is done.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Thank you - we’re just beginning!
@balzacq
@balzacq 3 ай бұрын
My criteria for an architect, from my retirement house to city hall, is: "If you could go back in time, would you strangle Le Corbusier in his cradle, or not?"
@sheridansherr8974
@sheridansherr8974 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@balzacq
@balzacq 3 ай бұрын
@@sheridansherr8974 Okay you're in.
@gingi453
@gingi453 3 ай бұрын
no, he was an experimental architect who created the modern too, but not forced it on the world, the "Ronchamp Cathedral" is a sensual project that he could also do..and his Villa Savoy is a liveable place..respecting natural space..Turning back to the barrock is not the answer, we need to design our new world based on our classical inheritance but using modern technologies..so not an easy task..
@Ryan96913
@Ryan96913 3 ай бұрын
lamo you speak what I thought
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon 3 ай бұрын
hahahahaha yes
@scrappmutt2
@scrappmutt2 3 ай бұрын
I went to the Danish Architecture Museum in Copenhagen sponsored by the WEF. It was just a bunch of exhibits highlighting modular block, eco friendly buildings all the while toting them as the present and future of architecture. If that is what these schools are pushing towards the future is bleak, but the good news is that they have turned the job "architect" into a job that can be done by nearly anyone and makes them just as much like replaceable cogs in the wheel as any given assembly line worker.
@Sohave
@Sohave 3 ай бұрын
Are you located in Denmark? If you have interest in studying or promoting classical architecture here perhaps we should connect?
@scrappmutt2
@scrappmutt2 3 ай бұрын
@@Sohave No, sorry, was just passing through as a tourist, but definitely wish you luck. Denmark needs a Renaissance.
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
Ironically, green principles can be incorporated with traditional exterior designs. 💡
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon
@ReyneArturiaPenededragon 3 ай бұрын
Everything that comes from the WEF should be rejected, they are selfish people with a dictator complex.
@Plan73
@Plan73 3 ай бұрын
And I think we should stop calling it "modernism", there is no more modernity in a 100+ years old movement. Call it, idk, twentiethcenturism, shoeboxism...
@vladvladislav4335
@vladvladislav4335 3 ай бұрын
You may want to take a look at the German island of Sylt, where some of the Germany's richest people build their holiday homes. Just look up the town of Kampen (Sylt) on Google Street View, and you will instantly understand why. Almost all new houses there are built in traditional style of that region, to the point that sometimes it is impossible to tell, which houses are over a century old, and which are brand new. Even some very modern buildings try to pay homage to the traditional style, for example the newly built "Lanserhof Sylt". Sadly, for a short time in the sixties they managed to build quite a few "modernist boxes" in the town of Westerland, for example the "Kurzentrum Westerland" or "Hanseatenhaus", and these are still considered the ugliest buildings on the whole island to this day. I think the architecture of Sylt would be a great topic for a future video. It perfectly illustrates the point: when it comes to rich people, they often prefer traditional architecture for their own homes. Sylt also demonstrates, that there is literally nothing preventing us from building traditionally, and there are enough architects who are willing to design such buildings if that's what the customer wants to pay for.
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
The City of Savannah, Georgia is doing some excellent work compatible to the traditional architecture,
@dreacul
@dreacul 3 күн бұрын
I've noticed that at the germans. But I think that the thing there is having an urban planning doctrine or law that cares about the local history and they impose strict colors, style etc. I used to visit my sister in a town in Bavaria, called Herrsching and I was so impressed how they adapted old traditional styles to this modern world. Is like the rich are tired of modern glass buildings and they want to retreat to somwhere they can feel home and relax. And then there's another thing that I consider it very important. People who get rich and know the value of money and are serious hard workers, they will not feel the need to show it in an extravagant way but to prefer living a simple life.
@crazyguy_1233
@crazyguy_1233 3 ай бұрын
A building can stand out while still looking beautiful. The Art Deco style balanced having new bold ideas while keeping some traditional elements. When you take a closer look at Art Deco buildings you see that they aren’t just flat walls they have details. They look drastically different from what came before you could even argue Art Nouveau looked drastically different. A building can be bold and stand out while having beauty in its design. Art Deco buildings often have motifs based on the building’s use. An electric building may have electric bolts or a motif of Zeus. Art Nouveau buildings implement natural shapes and motifs of nature. Today’s buildings are bold but they lack that extra flair that past bold buildings had with their motifs.
@screwstatists7324
@screwstatists7324 Ай бұрын
Modernism isn't a very high form, but art deco is perhaps the least appalling version of it
@Eugensson
@Eugensson 2 ай бұрын
What is this building with the tower at 0:12? It has a very similar layout to the gemeentehuis Sint-Pieters-Woluwe in Brussels, Belgium.
@papaguro
@papaguro Ай бұрын
Ah hello fellow Belgian
@lawrenceholden5716
@lawrenceholden5716 3 ай бұрын
This is such an uplifting and true video and gives hope for a better built environment in the future. As most architecture is a commercial process, clients need also to take this on board, not just a functional fast track, minimal cost solution to make money from rental, sale or whatever. In the past people and organisations had pride in their locality and wanted their buildings to be well designed, and be a lasting legacy to them. People appreciate stability, good design, quality and permanence, things lacking in the recent decades.
@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva
@HighFlyingOwlOfMinerva 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes, not even via studying you can change things for the better. In my free time I create new Wiki articles of Rotterdam's long forgotten past. The result? What essentially was history lost to time got found and put back for everyone to read and it worked. Channels on social media picked it up and shared it, showing people what they're missing. Sometimes photo's and some info can really do more than 1000 words ever can!
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
I retired from international shipping and visited Rotterdam on business. I accidentally learned about the horrific destruction of old Rotterdam during WW II. I saw some old black and white and sepia photos from the turn of the century and “it blew my mind” with the magical historic character. Similarly I learned about the destruction of old Antwerp and LeHavre during the War. Other European historic coastal towns and cities were flattened by bombing. The more I study what was lost the heartbreaking it is. If only there would be a popular movement to restore what was lost as a matter of European cultural urgency - it had been done with the Ypres cloth hall after WW I …😢
@robertozeladarodriguez5321
@robertozeladarodriguez5321 3 ай бұрын
For me, this is the best video on the channel. It touches on very valid points with a critical view of current teaching. Experimenting and creating with new materials is good too, but it’s important to change the way traditional architecture is viewed. The rejection of this design approach in universities needs to end, and its foundations should be learned since they are essential for creating more beautiful cities.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Roberto - and yes, the focus just needs to shift! Not only one view, but multiple views at the same time
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
Beaux Arts disciplines need to be restored throughout the Western academic institutions. Julia Morgan achieved miracles of beauty in the U.S. and she received her training in Paris at the Beaux Arts architecture school.
@jdoe2737
@jdoe2737 3 ай бұрын
The thing about flat roofs in rainy (and snowy) climates kills me. There are places in Europe that built buildings with flat roofs despite the fact that they have heavy snow and rain each winter, and this results in them having to waste thousands of Euros in maintenance that they wouldn't have had to waste if the roofs were just built in a traditional way (which originally wasn't created for esthetics but for the very practical reason of not allowing the snow to accumulate and damage the roof). That in itself proves that the claim of being "practical" and "sustainable" is pure BS.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Yup, exactly… it’s so common, yet we don’t hear about it very often. One of the many symptoms of this problem
@TimSlee1
@TimSlee1 3 ай бұрын
I find Europe a strange place for the fact that they have both classical and modern architecture built side-by-side so that they can clearly see the differences yet they just keep building modern slop without any consideration for aesthetic.
@thesermontis
@thesermontis 3 ай бұрын
Bravo !! righto to the hart,, I'm over 20 years in a stone business and it started from seeing buildings build out of stone, but unfortunately, until this day I find very little work that requires STONE work for the buildings that as you mention homely and beautiful that everybody loves,, that's why whole tourism sector is happening,, not because people are traveling to places to see the French Italian or English people,, they go to see the places where architecture is something to be seen,, something to be enjoyed and wondering through the streets of Verona, Rome or Amsterdam makes you wanna be there makes you want to spend time there.. that means something was done right.. Wish you all the best with the channel I will keep following will keep watching and sharing.. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
@Dggb2345
@Dggb2345 Ай бұрын
So obviously true yet ignored by our “betters.”
@pietervoogt
@pietervoogt 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your hard work, this gives me hope.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Pieter!
@pietervoogt
@pietervoogt 3 ай бұрын
@@the_aesthetic_city What about reaching out to the sculpture departments of art academies and try to engage them. Because I think wat is missing in a lot of new traditional buildings is the original ornament and creative details, while at the same time a lot of art school students can't find a job after leaving school. I have an idea for a video about that.
@nice_challenge
@nice_challenge 3 ай бұрын
What is the additional initial cost of building like that, plus what is the effect of it on the value over time of such buildings and towards its environment/neighborhood? Many houses are built by investment firms, that are just looking at the (short time) ROI they can get from the building through sales, rent etc. By building cheap, they try to maximize ROI. To create a real renaissance, those that decide need to be convinced. And those that decide are normally the ones with money. Just to democratize the renaissance: if local governments prescribe the rules for building permits, investors could be forced to build more sustainable and for 1000 years, instead of for 10 years. And, thanks for another great video
@lecaprice2572
@lecaprice2572 3 ай бұрын
Ironically by making the buildings aesthetically attractive and human scale these investors would attract more people to the retail establishments and would also be able to request higher rents.
@TheWampam
@TheWampam 3 ай бұрын
@@lecaprice2572 Nah, its a well known problem that those investors try to be as inoffensive as possible. This means building as boring as possible. For the same reasons most cars are black or grey nowadays.
@sotirissoukeras509
@sotirissoukeras509 2 ай бұрын
It's happening and I'm so happy that finally there are people, who are willing to reviel the secrets of the past architecture for more human life and certainly unleash the beauty, this harmonious architecture can offer us again! Keep going the great job!! It's really working!
@HickoryDickory86
@HickoryDickory86 3 ай бұрын
When the one student was talking about studying the prevailing style of a given place (because buildings are designed in context), I was reminded of Andrew Gould. He is an architect who specializes in designing Orthodox churches here in America. His principles are to remain true to human scale and the traditional Byzantine style (or Romanesque, if it is applicable), but always tries to incorporate whatever is the prevailing traditional vernacular and/or materials of the area where the church is being built. If it's in Appalachia, there's going to be lots of timber; in Florida or Texas, plenty of Spanish Mission; etc. And he prefers to build the structure out of concrete and masonry so that it lasts, but will make concessions for timber frame if concrete and masonry are prohibitive with the client church's budget. Anyway, his work is beautiful! Please look into his work and also various talks and interviews he has done. I think you would greatly enjoy and appreciate a lot of what he says.
@dianaespinosa1681
@dianaespinosa1681 Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree, but after working many years as an architect the issue is also based on cost. There is a disconnect between the value of architecture and cost. Most construction projects are dependent on budget if it cost too much it is too expensive so minimalist projects cost less. Only when the investment is high then architects can make meaningful investment on the building’s architecture. Sustainability is also a factor.. are we building for sustainability or to get certificate that will improve sales ? Urban planning is the next factor is practically forgotten.
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 3 ай бұрын
I love how architects and urban designers are encouraged to be artistic and creative yet all they create is mundane, conformist drivel that is unoriginal and lifeless. Traditional architecture was artful and beautiful. Modern/post modern society supposedly values creativity but they destroyed beauty in the process.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@who2u333
@who2u333 3 ай бұрын
This episode fits with the channel 'Brent Hull', who is evangelizing for classic design and architecture in todays builds.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
I love Brent Hull’s content! 🙏🏼
@landrypierce9942
@landrypierce9942 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting how every “traditional” college on this list is Catholic. Not surprising, just interesting.
@marsco2442
@marsco2442 3 ай бұрын
religious thinking esteems the beauty of creation and making our own work harmonious with nature. So, not that surprising!
@landrypierce9942
@landrypierce9942 3 ай бұрын
@@marsco2442 Of course. I just hope this “renaissance” coincides with a proportionate renaissance of traditional religion too. There’s no point in having outward beauty if it’s all just as rotten on the inside. Not that anyone wants to hear my politics in an architecture video. :)
@gingi453
@gingi453 3 ай бұрын
religion is using this demand, but has nothing to do with it..the antic Greeks were nature lovers..
@oskarmartin6486
@oskarmartin6486 3 ай бұрын
I imagine some guy coming back to the vatican after attending a modernist church Opening in the 80s. "Guys! We've got to do something about this."
@wendydevereux4375
@wendydevereux4375 3 ай бұрын
I just wasted my time at UK university getting a degree in architecture. Every project we were set could not and should never be built. 3 years of frustration
@SisterSunny
@SisterSunny 3 ай бұрын
As much as my father tried pressuring me into an architecture degree, I refused on the basis that I hated all new modern buildings. I'd heard of Notre-Dame, but didn't really want to go all the way to America just to be able to make nice buildings. I'm studying urbanism now in UCL, but the fact that the resurgence in new traditional is even reaching some European schools _(finally)_ is heartening!
@notteilsaggio
@notteilsaggio 2 ай бұрын
Oh strange world. I loved Your video. Really, I totally agree with You. I am an italian architect. During the 90's, at the Uni I was taught how to draw with pen and pencil, how to "design" my drawings to be easily reproducible and how to use colours and other tricks to make people read them easily. At the same time it was prohibited to use computers and plotters. The history was the center of the study, but, as far as I know this importance has changed in the last 20 years. That kind of study made us conscious of the country we live in, and built more than one generations of conservation oriented architects. On the other hand... The complete lack of cad and 3dmodeling knowledge left us with so much to learn outside of the school. I rarely go to the university nowadays, I hate the way they are destroying it, but I suppose that the basis of the learning in Italy is still hand drawing. But I see from the teaching plans that the lessons of the first years are still focused on the logics of the traditional representation, but integrated with actual world. What was and still is missing, I guess, is the human dimension. Architecture students (and often architects) do design for their ego, for their satisfaction, for their joy. It is uncommon to find a young architect who really cares of the person in front of them.
@eastudio-K
@eastudio-K 3 ай бұрын
I don’t agree with this video, design has no style, you can create terrible modern buildings and terrible classical buildings. Creating spaces is what we do, focus on that
@instasnaptv
@instasnaptv 3 ай бұрын
Please give an example of beautiful modern building post ww2. I'm genuinely curious.
@FVI297
@FVI297 3 ай бұрын
I can speak for Milan. Modern areas are quite beautiful there.
@sti_xy1
@sti_xy1 3 ай бұрын
Its nice to see that we are moving away from this nonsense and towards a more beautiful, aesthetic, communal architecture. If I am to build in the future, I will definitely hire a classical architect.
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 3 ай бұрын
Returning to tradition that works 😻
@jessicasledge1743
@jessicasledge1743 21 күн бұрын
I truly appreciate this video! I studied architecture for my first 3 years of college, but ultimately transferred out for these exact reasons! I was so disgusted with the entire major, and highly disappointed with the classes and how close-minded everyone seemed. I ended up switching to industrial design instead, and it filled the interdisciplinary void that architecture was missing!
@jimfus6833
@jimfus6833 3 ай бұрын
And don't even get me started on how most "news" outlets parrot the Saudi talking points about NEOM being a model of sustainability.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, a nice topic for an entire video
@ernestomondragonromero3024
@ernestomondragonromero3024 2 ай бұрын
In my university FA CU UNAM in Mexico City they teach about all the ancient ways to build of many civilizaciones from around the world, their culture and heritage, and we as studients we know about those techniques of art and construction that are even better in climate and sustainability than the tech modern ones. But in projects the style and ways of building are mostly chosen by the client, is rare that a client wants ancient techniques for them but yeah also the architects don’t promote it in new developments but I Can say that in renovations of ancient places architects know they have to respect and embrace the heritage and even reproduce it like in countryside projects is prety common
@EMOJO_2001
@EMOJO_2001 3 ай бұрын
it's possible to build new buildings with natural stone? (a 3 floor apartment for example, or maybe just a simple one floor house), plase make a video about it if you have the time.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
A natural stone video is in the works! It is possible to build up to 20 stories (think of cathedrals!) they built very tall flat buildings using natural stone in France
@andreaw2053
@andreaw2053 23 күн бұрын
I have an obsession with homes. Houses. I've wanted to go into architecture to design homes. Life had other plans so I'm currently a young draftsman specializing in cabinetry... I've never been as grateful for this twist of fate as I am watching this video. You've given me some clarity on my future persuits... Thank you...
@LadyMetroland
@LadyMetroland Ай бұрын
I'm a history PhD candidate and It's startling how similar my experience in graduate school has been. Just replace "modern" with "postmodern," and practically everything mentioned in the video is the same. A bland European monoculture that raises an autoimmune response against other ideas. It's the same in literature, languages, art history, and religious studies. In my first few years I tried to bring in alternative viewpoints, but I got smacked down and even accused of having right-wing sympathies (I don't). Eventually I got discouraged and just wanted to graduate, so I started putting gibberish from Lacan, Butler, et al in my (otherwise good) papers and pretended to understand gibberish while other people were speaking it, and the result was that I became well-liked in my department and got money and pats on the head. Teaching is the only part of the job that feels honest and worthwhile, but we are strongly advised to spend as little time on our classes as possible and direct our energy into publishing, conferences, and grant writing. If I wanted to, I could halve the time I spend on my classes and experience no negative repercussions whatsoever, but seeing the students get excited about history is the only thing that keeps me going. So, yeah, long story short, it's infested all the humanities I know of. (Is architecture a humanity? I think this channel would say yes.)
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city Ай бұрын
That’s quite discouraging to hear.. but not surprising. It’s scary to hear that science is devolving into postmodern gibberish - truth becomes relative and subjective, which is problematic as it erodes the foundation of any knowledge we have. I would say architecture is supposed to be a ‘practical art’, only partly ‘humanity’ - one cannot doubt the use or validity of a foundation, as it will lead to a building collapsing. However, the way designs are justified often sounds like nonsensical poetry - so there’s definitely something off there. The book ‘Architectural Principles in the Age of Fraud’ offers a brilliant take on this
@julienyray2470
@julienyray2470 2 күн бұрын
At my school it’s a fine arts degree
@lucaspublictransport995
@lucaspublictransport995 3 ай бұрын
Same with public transport, exactly the same: instead of being thought about how to make a public transport system work and being useful for people's life, students are thought about hyperloop and equally idiotic stuffs (which, unlike modernist architecture, not only are horrendously stupid but they also still nearly do not exist. Whilst trains exists since nearly 200 years). The most terrifying part in all this is that, aa you said, nearly all students simply accepts what they're thought about, without critical thinking. If this is the way we teach the future decision makers, also often in an arrogant and "mafia-like" way (I am the BIG PROFESSOR, I simply know everything, everyone having different opinions is an idiot and now just look, Saudi Arabia built a 2km test track for hyperloop in 2016 this is THE FUTURE)... I'm scared.
@majormayco
@majormayco 2 ай бұрын
As a practicing architect, architecture is greatly influenced by modern-day needs, contemporary issues and client demands. Aspects like environmental design and energy conservation are given preeminence, as they form much of today's client needs. The truth is, few clients today - especially in the commercial sector - would want reconnaissance or traditional architectural outlooks. An architect stuck in the past will quickly become moribund and archaic. The world is increasingly becoming modern and automated, and these aspects must be incorporated in today's architecture.
@mentalmoves6032
@mentalmoves6032 3 ай бұрын
Just came back from London and can recommend a good example of new buildings that really are thoughtfully designed to match their surrounding: Rotherhite Street.
@pedrocaceresbrun621
@pedrocaceresbrun621 3 ай бұрын
Modern architecture ages horribly. I believe the most important thing in architecture is not the building… it is what happens in it: LIFE, Love, family, friends. I agree with almost everything but I don’t think Frank Lloyd Wright rejected ornaments, elaborated facades or slope roofs. The others you mention, yes, but definitively Wright didn’t do that.
@Metronoma1
@Metronoma1 3 ай бұрын
I have hoped for a renaissance in the architectural world for a long time, and i am so glad that it looks like it i slowly but surely coming, and you have a big part in this i think!! 🥳🙌😀 I see it in my own city in Copenhagen Denmark. Even though the designs on new buildings are almost always still modernist, the material used is starting to be much more traditional like brikfacades and wood and sometimes even ornamental features’ on the facade! I started noticing this difference around 2019/2020.
@akirathedog777
@akirathedog777 3 ай бұрын
absolutely priviledged take. Only a norwegian person could worry so much about how buildings are not to his liking when theres people who have electricity for less than a third of the day
@jirislavicek9954
@jirislavicek9954 3 ай бұрын
Maybe there is a reason why these people have no electricity for most of the day. If you build and run things properly the last long time and perform well. If you do a lousy job you get lousy results.
@akirathedog777
@akirathedog777 3 ай бұрын
@@jirislavicek9954 totally agree bro-jo, its all about who is superior, not about the rich being able to afford complex infrastructure, you're totally right, McDonalds is absolutely the best culture in the world omg
@Ren-1979
@Ren-1979 3 ай бұрын
I cannot put into words how much I sympathise with what you have shown in this video. 💯👍
@RestingMoose
@RestingMoose 3 ай бұрын
Your video rings true in my case. From a very young age I was in awe of these classical buildings throughout Europe being so harmonious and beautiful as well as full of historical and cultural identity that I've always dreamt of being an architect so that I could design buildings and urban areas to be admired for ages to come. When I was finally able to study architecture at university I was so surprised to find that there was indeed zero focus on pre-WWI architecture. Building traditionally was considered old-fashioned from day one and in as some times even considered evil (often comparing traditional ideas to radical national ideals during WWII Germany). You were always pushed to think outside the box and come up with crazy, and frankly, very unappealing models. Feeling like an outsider among most of my peers in class I became completely demotivated and quit architecture school. To this day it saddens me deeply that I had to give up that dream of making the world a more beautiful place through architecture and instead watch it diminish to the same modernistic ideals that I came to hate during those years at university..
@javierpacheco8234
@javierpacheco8234 3 ай бұрын
This video is so important, thank you aesthetic city, i also share the same pain of feeling left out in school becuase im also studying architecture and is learning modernist ideology instead of traditional architecture education. Hopefully in the future classical architecture schools open in europe, I'm surprised that europe has no classical architecture schools, hope with government and enough support, a permanent school for classical architecture in europe is there Becuase europe is the epicenter for classical architecture.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Yes we absolutely need one such university in Europe - with a beautiful campus. How Europe, with all its beautiful urbanism and architecture, doesn’t have its own Notre Dame baffles me. But Africa, Asia, Oceania - all regions need such schools. It takes a lot to make impact
@homesteadorbust
@homesteadorbust 2 ай бұрын
No one ever talks about how nice it is to sit around in a modern area. But everyone talks about charming old towns. Coincidence i dont think so.
@portcybertryx222
@portcybertryx222 Ай бұрын
I did not choose architecture as my major as I was disillusioned by how the curriculum was structured and how incorporating engineering instead of unlocking new pathways to combine beauty with design was instead focused on heavy optimization of spaces and how sustainability goals reduced the impact of art of the form. I wish I knew this 5 years ago. Thank you.
@magnushultgrenhtc
@magnushultgrenhtc 3 ай бұрын
Sustainability is key, and using less concrete saves CO2. Not to mention keeping the building for more than 40-50 years. In Stockholm (home to the parodically horrible architecture school at the start of the video), the garbage 1970s architecture that replaced the 1700s historic city centre has already had to be torn down and "reimagined" with at least some slight thought of the people using it.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
100%!
@screwstatists7324
@screwstatists7324 Ай бұрын
China and India produce 80% of all global pollution and co2 pollution. Don't worry about it
@antoniescargo1529
@antoniescargo1529 Ай бұрын
Save CO2? What are you talking about? Plants need CO2. Green plants produce O2.
@magnushultgrenhtc
@magnushultgrenhtc Ай бұрын
@@antoniescargo1529 And concrete production costs energy that is currently emitting fossil CO2 adding to the CO2 already in circulation. Keep up.
@meda_mo
@meda_mo 13 күн бұрын
as a kid wanting to study architecture after highschool, knowing this is happening is very cool because i dont wanna go to school again just to study buildings that are more modern. i do like well designed ones that take advantage of the shape and aesthetic to make interesting spaces, but i just dont like the cubes. i like pretty houses and infrastructure with cool colors
@RoberttheWise
@RoberttheWise 3 ай бұрын
A great example of modernist building that ages horribly is brutalism. In cold and rainy North-Eastern Europe it quickly gets this nasty black grime all over it. And it looks horribly depressing against a backdrop of a gray, rainy sky. The only pictures of appealing brutalist architecture I've ever seen were of perfectly clean buildings in some warm and sunny places like Australia.
@the_aesthetic_city
@the_aesthetic_city 3 ай бұрын
Great example - it really doesn’t work well in rainy climates
@JM-st1le
@JM-st1le 2 ай бұрын
Novelty and experimentation is good but traditional techniques shouldn't be forgotten
@kiribati9393
@kiribati9393 28 күн бұрын
Architecture school are not broken, style is just a facade, architecutre is way more complexe, architects have no power now, realtors, construction company have the power. You're missing your point, the city are the way they are , not because of architects, but because of the people investing in them, why doing a elaborate facade if you don't make more bucks selling it ?
@jztouch
@jztouch 3 ай бұрын
I'm not an architect but a city dweller that gets a lot of enjoyment out of prewar buildings and walkable city centers. So-called modern architecture is starting to look very outmoded to me these days and I believe we need to look to our past as well as beyond Western styles of architecture to move into the future. We're still living with early 20th century ideas of modernity and it doesn't work in so many cases. It was a good point you made about many modern buildings having a short shelf life. I had to laugh when a new building went up in NYC that had a very modern aesthetic and immediately upon opening I noticed that one of the office workers had piled up a bunch of junk right up against their floor to ceiling window in clear view of the street. Where was the thinking about what would work for the building's users during planning? These building also start to look very run down quickly because they don't weather well. I really hope this movement takes off because all these modernist public spaces are absolutely soulless. Innovation isn't always progress. Let's look to the tried and true to build better places for us all to live together more happily.
@lamebubblesflysohigh
@lamebubblesflysohigh 2 ай бұрын
The problem with beautiful classical design is the price tag. If public sector doesn't start ordering timeless designs, private sector oriented on quick return of the investment will certainly not.
@miketackabery7521
@miketackabery7521 3 ай бұрын
Gosh this is so hopeful! Thanks so much for making this video!
@Mr_X753
@Mr_X753 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I graduated from Architecture school 18 years ago, and I found parts of it frustrating for many of the reasons mentioned. There was way too much emphasis and time placed on avant garde design theories, rather than studying the past and proven design + construction practices. Now that I’m well into a profession career and in a position where I have to hire new graduates, I often find myself looking for qualities in candidates that schools do not emphasize at all. Design is important, but most Architects spend very little time doing design. In my opinion, students would be better served if they received more instruction on material qualities, construction methods, effective written + verbal communication, and presentation skills. Many would also benefit from some business courses that involve marketing, finance, and project management. I personally love traditional architecture. Although I regret that I didn’t get to study it in school, I enjoy learning about it in my spare time. It is truly fascinating to study something that has continued in some form for thousands of years.
@rahmanauf4345
@rahmanauf4345 Ай бұрын
There are many natural ornamental elements in classical buildings that were crucial to building in the past. Beautiful nature and floral ornamentation in traditional architecture can have enormous effects on our emotional well-being and sense of harmony. Below are examples of classic nature ornamental ornaments: - 1.acanthus leaf 2.Laurel Wreaths 3.Palmettes 4.Rosettes 5.Vitruvian Scroll 6.Anthemion
@miguelags9514
@miguelags9514 3 ай бұрын
There is a serious mistake here because you think architecture is beautiful when it is neoclsic in style but don't notice that is the pedestrian oriented urbanism what makes it nice. A neoclasic mall surrounded by a huge parking is still an abomination.
@Sciller4
@Sciller4 3 ай бұрын
What? You're right about malls, but- Classical architecture explicitly takes urban fabric into consideration. Modernism doesn't. One of these philosophies leads to parking lot cities, the other does not.
@miguelags9514
@miguelags9514 3 ай бұрын
@@Sciller4 In the USA modern architecture is linked to parking lot cities because they are legally forced to do it. Style is a secundary problem.
@Sciller4
@Sciller4 3 ай бұрын
@@miguelags9514 Okay? The idea of a parking lot city is not a classical idea. No one is saying we ought to build neoclassical malls surrounded by huge parking lots, even if it would technically be an improvement. Not ideal, but an *improvement*. I'm not sure why you're pointing out a non-issue.
@Sohave
@Sohave 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. I live in Odense where modernism has tried its hardest to push the cars out of the center of town and create cozy places.- But it ultimatley failed. All the bars, all the crowds, night-live and attention are at the old parts of town. Non of the new areas has been able to draw crowds. The same goes for the new harbor front builds. They have had flea markets and all sorts of festivities planned from above to make the new development seem lively but as soon as the market or festivity packs down the whole development is dead and deserted rows of modern housing. There actually exist a neoclassical equivalent of a strip mall. I visited that in Milan. look up "Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II" It was gorgeous.
@miguelags9514
@miguelags9514 3 ай бұрын
The area around the harbour fails because it is a low density area and car oriented.
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