Possible Total War:Warhammer Factions The Tomb Kings Army

[@yetipotato8567]

After all these years its relaxing to return these vids before the game

[@seflame8786]

Arch, i really love your lore videos, i'm Glad You love the source material , and it's interesting your reasonably crusade againts GW , loving their world, and being crudelly dissapointed by their dubious actions

[@perkele2845]

Immediately came here after the tomb kings DLC trailer

[@Kmwallace90]

greetings and salutations friends

[@SeraphimKnight]

Man creative assembly should be paying you to come up with this shit for their game... Some real good insight in these videos.

[@Jaggerjaw99]

they have the guy that made warhammer lol

[@snkhuong]

lol they probably don't need some random guy on youtube to help them if they have the fucking creator himself lul

[@jgtogi6839]

None of the original creators work their anymore. The last to leave Rick Priestley whom left in 2010 because of the corporate culture of the company. Most of them honestly sold out and had various success with other companies or thier own businesses. The most notable was Andy Chambers who is now a high ranking man at Blizzard which is why World of Warcraft is essentially a rip off Warhammmer.

[@Nidhoggrr]

You forgot to mention about the casket that upon being successfully cast it will bounce to any unit within 6 inches of its target up to once per new target. So if the enemy keeps tons of units packed together... aka orcs and skaven the spell can literally hit every unit that is withing 6 inches of each other. I personally used this against a skaven player and was hitting his entire army every turn. Needless to say he lost very fast.

[@bobbygill9533]

Thanks arch. I can't do music anymore. I've heard every thing I like and just am over it lol, political shows are akin to throwing ones soul into an abyss, on account of where we are "collectively" heading... then, there's Arch. And baldrmort admittedly, but Arch, you give me countless hours of utter enjoyment at work, thank you... I mean that

[@preferredpronoun3689]

Since they're doing a three part series, you'd expect Tomb Kings to be playable eventually, and eventually dumbed down too. Really excited to see game play and what the new studio is doing.

[@runningwiththirmite]

For the sake of maintaining the army, you could always have the main hierophant be attached to a unit of your choosing and it would not show up on the unit screen. That way the only way that the enemy knows where the hierophant is, is by trying to attack a unit and hope its there.

[@thebrucolac256]

I think an upkeep mechanic for the Tomb Kings could be tied directly to your number of priests. Since they keep the many skeletons and constructs animated, you need more to have big armies. Mausoleum complexes and temples could increase your maximum number of priests, and thus prayer/spell power. It would also be a good opportunity to flesh out the pantheon a little with specialized temples.

[@LyricalDJ]

+Matthew Shelbourn Something like that, or magical upkeep in general, command upkeep (to keep your units under control and keep them from breaking away or becoming lifeless) or perhaps something like upkeep for units/buildings which make sure your units remain preserved and can be resurrected.

[@andrewscruggs4298]

I wish they added descendent units that are on the surface meatshelds but get a powerful morality effect when next to basic skeleton Warriors ,because you don't want to let possible family down. They should have traditional Arabic and Egyptian clothes on.

[@CantusTropus]

Arch, did you forget about the bit in the new army book where a Tomb King or Prince's presence in a unit allows them to use his Weapon Skill as if it were their own (essentially doubling their odds of hitting)?

[@beaubanhagel9658]

My favorite tw faction and fantasy warhammer. I love the way they play. Settra rules!

[@CantusTropus]

Your Tomb King could always increase his prestige in the good 'ol fashioned way - by smacking around some Orcs or recovering stolen treasures from Bretonnian or Imperial collectors.

[@ExileTwilight]

Oy, did you seriously forget about the Necrosphinx!? It's the (In lore) supreme Monster Killer of the Tomb Kings forces! (Even if it doesn't quite have the strength to do it in the tabletop... But it's a real good assassin :P)

[@ronnibech3376]

Sorry for the late reply but I wanted to answer this ;) Arch did say (I think...) in his earliest videos that the army speculations video's are just the unit he though could be implemented successfully and how he would implement them. It does not mean of cause that he did not forget about them though ;)

[@alvarobianconi3455]

Mann coming back to this amazing lore videos that made me love the universe. Hope he makes more lore videos on fantasy.

[@cakekilla101]

Arch reminds me of the talking computer from "Courage the Cowardly Dog"

[@Morec0]

You twit.

[@OneOnOne1162]

Wouldn't it be better for the tomb guards to increase with the tomb king's prestige? Like, originally you have only your own guards but as you gain influence over the other tomb kings you can use some of their guard. Or you have a large army of them, but as you level up you gain more magical prowess so you can have more of them up at the same time.

[@philipboardman1357]

18:33 I can't see CA keeping any rules that ignore cover. It's likely that the game won't play like Warhammer at all, in rule terms. It will probably be much closer to total war; just my prediction.

[@TheBonzobonzo]

Philip Boardman yer what im thinking but im okay with that :P

[@kbritu]

Philip Boardman That's my fear!

[@edgydave577]

Philip Boardman I would think it would be a hybrid of the two, some Warhammer fluff will just be to hard to make work. No dice to roll in Multi-player so hopefully will be less luck and more skill.

[@magemaatikko]

Philip Boardman I agree with you. It's really sad but I think they cant translate Warhammer units straight to simple binary code. I assume CA goes where the hedge is smaller and becouse they own the copyright, they can certainly do it. All we warhammer fans would boycott CA so they really need to take care original Warhammer lore. Definitely no more germanic unit paste nightmare.

[@lesROKnoobz]

+magemaatikko all two of you Warhammer fans. I'm one of the many TW fans that knows absolutely nothing about Warhammer and don't plan on wasting my time reading wikipedia pages about boring ass lore like I did with other similar franchises like Lord of the Rings and Warcraft. Nope. It's quite infuriating that they'd make a game that most people don't know shit about. They should have done something more universally appealing.

[@magemaatikko]

Tomb Guards are my best units in Warhammer Bloodbowl. I just smash the opponent into oblivion with my massive Tomb Guards. I really wish I could see some Tomb King faction in the upcoming TW.

[@BVargas78]

Chariots turned out pretty good in warhammer total war :)

[@shadowolfnara4749]

In 2021 and thinking of making this an army

[@hereiam4016]

How I missed the bgm in his recent videos

[@neb9213]

this could be a really interesting unit.

[@andreasservan9545]

There were chariots in the first Total War: Rome 12 years ago. Egyptian ones, even. So chariots shouldn't be a problem! The sphinx would work like the O&G Arachnarok spider shown in gameplay videos already published. Restrictions on stronger units could work like it always has in Total War; early vs late game and cost/upkeep represented in one way or another. The game designers at CA with assistance from GW would most likely find an elegant solution to the problem. :) btw, heia Norge! Genialt at du lager disse videoene! Sett på dem i timesvis nå, og kommer til å se mye mer!

[@rhemorigher]

+Andreas Servan Briton and Seleucid chariots too, chariots were awesome.

[@foreveralone9201]

you've got to remember the horses will be stronger as they won't care about pain and also won't break also, so the cavalry will be lethal and ubreakable and pretty much invincible to missiles unless sustained fire, they would just keep running with arrows sticking out of them, and the bone giants would be stronger than regualr giants surely because they're unbreakable and don't care about pain, plus yoou have some great ideas you should try to send your videos over to CA somehow.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

its little things like these tomb kings that makes me think ''damit..should have got engaged in this shit back in school'' i mean.. a undead version of alexander the great that basicly got awakend and smacked the brawlingthird tier so called kings that ahde come after him over the head '' ge tin line ,guard the kingdom and its people morron'' ^^... its so often in fantasy games aka worlds that undeath just have no stable state to coexist with living even when being sentient

[@lucasbeck1391]

What?

[@andrewa700]

the picture on 16:10 it's a skeleton wearing a skull lol

[@magemaatikko]

I would like to see one episode of your Medieval 2 Warhammer mod per day, plz! It's really interesting series and it keeps me so excited. You, Sir are master story teller, keep up the good work >>^^>>!!

[@thememe986]

the tomb kings are probably going to be playable, as CA did say they were going to be adding all the important factions at one point or another

[@yuripantyhose4973]

The Blob strategy I think will look amazing With TK in Total War, especially sense they don't have fear and in total will not really care that much about encirclement since they are unbreakable. That would also leave one open to micro the chariots mid and late game in the battle

[@T0biOrNotToBe]

well done arch... you were right

[@Firefly200001222]

Finally Tomb Kings

[@tictcha612]

Great video !

[@geronimowirth4477]

so many hit and run units .. micro managment of doom ^^ I hope they come out really fast , its my favorite race

[@nicholasmenzel201]

did he say they have arrows of the arse?

[@thegreatskinkpriest8104]

Pretty sure it's "Arrows of the Asp", like Aspen Dental. Lol obviously not aspen dental.

[@AJ-happydad]

Love your videos

[@Kuippana]

How I miss this army. Just sucks they stopped selling them =(

[@jeremiasastorga8399]

You can do that "pass through, come back" thingy in TW, but it requires a bit of micromanaging.

[@CantusTropus]

Maybe each unit has an agility stat, and the Stalkers fire ridiculously powerful shots, the damage of which is reduced by the target's agility? So Elephants take a ton of damage, but Elves are barely scratched by it.

[@davidtownsend6092]

Hi I'ma. Historian. The Greeks used chariots as taxis. The Egyptians absolutely used them in combat. Mostly mobile archers. They fought their mobile 2 man archer and driver chariots at kadesh vs the enemies heavy melee 3 anchariot and ran circles around them

[@xlamcx]

Hope they become available in tww 2. Was happy to see the lizardmen & high elves are coming BUT. I really want to see tomb kings or dark elves. Mostly tomb kings... I always played these guys on tabletop and I also played warriors of chaos mostly and even tried VC but they were NOT nearly as fun as my little tomb king army. The original model for Negash is pretty damn funny to, supposed to be one of the most insane badass antagonists of warhammer and he's literally a big boned skellington lmao his oldest model looks absolutly hilarious.

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

Well, you wanted them. Now they're announced. Wish granted. Now to survive the hype.

[@jrodowens]

What's to stop every single army the Tomb King faces from just throwing every projectile and unit at the LIche Priest (or whatever Mage/Necromancer/General/Hero/etc that is keeping army from crumbling)? That would seem to be the best strategy for every single battle no matter what.. I mean, eventually something will get through to the character and kill it. Wouldn't matter about all the units sacrificed so long as they win the battle...

[@ArchYouTube]

Ted Brasy we dont know yett.

[@edgydave577]

Ted Brasy I am sure of 2 things 1-TWW will not play like table top.........2.Something will be broken on release.....but look at Attila lose your General and you normally lose the match (in MP). Possibly you can have more than 1 hierophant, plus a couple of Necromancer types , this would help a lot i think, obviously with some limit on the frequency of spell use.

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

Ted Brasy I guess CA it´s going to have to get creative. i don´t think it´s impossible specially since we don´t really know that much about how they are going to aproach other things difficult to implement. But if we take the current engine and features you could for example make hierophants a special kind of agent. It won´t take part in battle directly (you could justify it by him being hidden in a safe place nearby and protected by magic or something) so it won´t be an obvious, squishy target But, since it is an agent it could still killed by an assasin. And if an army withouth a hierophant is attacked all manners of debuffs take place. That, but much more detailed and balanced would be a way to do it. Or, if they create a good magic system they could make the hierophant have different "modes" or "stances" like a defensive stance, while not casting spells, let´s say he is casting a powerful magic barrier focused on himself making him pretty safe. Then if you want to buff your units and such you have to change your stance, making your units stronger at the risk of making your hierophant vulnerable. That would be pretty interesting-

[@jrodowens]

Yeah after giving it some thought, it seems doable. Particularly when I remembered how impossible to kill the General's Bodyguard of the Byzantines in SS could be.. particularly if you had more than one Hierophant and give them a tough retinue..

[@CantusTropus]

Ted Brasy Might work. However, the destruction of the Hierophant isn't and *instant* loss, if you sacrifice most of your army to kill the hierophant, the TK player will probably be able to finish you off before his army falls to bits. You should of course protect your Hierophant well. Lots depends on how they choose to implement magic and magic items - there's an item called the Cloak of the Dunes, which allows the wearer to fly around the map as a cloud of dust. Stuff like that, plus ward saves and magic amulets, could help your Hierophant's survivability very greatly.

[@QuestingTruck]

those necropolis knights look really cool.

[@DoctorM42]

Wait. Ushabti aren't constructs, but a holly analogue of Chaos Warriors - humans, changed by the god's magic. Then they got embalmed and resurrected to serve as a holly warriors once more.

[@sawyermifsud852]

tomb guards should work like on TT. Effective but overpriced heavy infantry if unsupported but godly death machines with proper buffs. Tomb Kings are all about using magic effectively to support your below average units that come with nice abilities.

[@Thrazzon]

What is the music you use for these videos? :O

[@sjoerddz]

the archer blessing could be inplemented just by giving them a X amount of accuracy.

[@carstein7797]

Which faction is next?

[@ArchYouTube]

SimmaLungt324 high elves

[@donraccoonisoverlordofther9341]

The Necroclitcollosi faction

[@andreaslund8398]

Should most of the unit's not be immune to arrow fire? Can't really see the logic in how arrow's can do damage to bones..? It's not like they have flesh and bleed's.

[@andreaslund8398]

***** Yeah i can see it with longbow's and ofc bolt's from crossbows. But i just don't see it have that big of and impact if they are not fleshy units. But okay its trying to imply logic to fantasy stuff.. Pretty hard to do..

[@andreaslund8398]

Namoth Yeah. But we will see what they do with the Vampire Counts. I just hope to see some form of damage reduction when it skeletons and that type of units

[@andreaslund8398]

***** Let's hope for that. But I don't have high hope regarding CA.

[@christophhofland8890]

+Andreas Lund I guess it matters on the arrow? A heavy blunt arrow could probably wreck a skelly pretty hard since there is no meat or anything else to "pad" the blow and bones are relatively brittle.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

Christoph Hofland on the other hand bones a hell of a smaller target compared to a big puffy sack of meat and..bio based machinery , hit ratio vs dammage bonuses for munition alternatives ?

[@caseyplays5132]

For the carrion I would like if it got a buff in range of the tomb king, and when there out of the range they are week

[@bragesteffensen3038]

what is your hair color; height, eye color and shoulder width? just curious:)

[@GunRunner106]

in reality charriots werent used to charge head on into enemy formation but circle them endlessly and "hunger" them out.... thats why they had archers on it... and people moving along them and attack what ever got close enough to them...

[@willmitchell2450]

Darius had his chariots charge straight at the Macedonian phalanx at gaugamela

[@GunRunner106]

Cool... no idea tbh - I had seen a docu about Egyptian armies just around the time I had made that comment - there were a large part of em talking how the Egypt's used their chariots - so while I have no clue how the Persians used theirs - they said (and showed) that the Egypt's used in the described grindy way - tomb kings are inspired by them Egypt, yes? I don't really have problem if they are used just like cavalry the whole circling would be fairly complicated to design and all after all anyway...

[@willmitchell2450]

nuub3d The fact is that almost all civilisations used chariots to fight and as a product of that there is going to be more than one way to use them. Also whilst the documentary you watched is technically correct not every Egyptian warrior would have followed the rule book in every scenario ever so there will have been moments where Egyptian chariots charged. Also the whole ideas of scythed chariots is true as well where blades were placed on the sides of chariots and used a shock cavalry, these particular chariots had up to and above 5 men in wielding spears etc. If you dont know about a topic it is advisable to not make wide sweeping comments until you have done at least a couple of minutes of reading to make sure you are not wrong. :)

[@TheHahanicevideo]

Weapon maintenance as upkeep? Maybe they need dosh to get people to clean them :D?

[@kylevidauri4869]

Arch could you PLEASE do Beastmen? They are one of my favorite factions and would kick ass in a Total War game.

[@hammersmith76ify]

Think the necrons are the war hammer 40k variant of the Tomb Kings?

[@timothyedward6147]

no necrospinx ?

[@chezratte1357]

you forgot the Necrosphinx and the Crypt Swarms

[@nickrohrer2892]

question arch, are the necrons based on the tomb king because, you know, ancient people who rose as a un-dead army, skeletal structure for the models, use of tombs to make more soldiers, has pyramid structure as a command building.

[@Lalle524]

+Nick Rohrer After the newer Necron Codexes, they're basically confirmed space Tomb Kings

[@nickrohrer2892]

that is what I thought

[@gr4692]

+Nick Rohrer no necrons was more sooner tomb kings is the newest army in whf books they didnt even have a proper background lore till 2006 and the necrons first published in around 2000

[@nickrohrer2892]

+richárd gombály so... Tomb kings are weaker necron ripoffs

[@gr4692]

basicly yeah but its totally different stlye army than the necrons

[@edgydave577]

June 16th Warhammer TW will be at E3, maybe more info????

[@gentleorchishman84]

Yep they are playable now

[@ebenezer1690]

Love your stuff

[@sickhadas6772]

Is leadership in Fantasy/AOS the opposite of how it works in 40k? In 40k if your leadership is 10 and you roll a 5, you should have passed your leadership test, so you want to roll within your leadership.

[@captainteutonica5474]

It's no longer Friday, where's my video Arch?

[@MyrdinAnnoth]

Forgot that Ushabti can use bows and have also the Arrow of Asap special rule. And more importantly - forgot about Necrosphynx - which I was looking forward to a lot actually just to forgotten. Kinda displeasing in all honesty.

[@papazoulou9326]

Will CA change their new horrendous way to select units in custom battle?

[@jrodowens]

PapaZoulou we can only hope

[@jrodowens]

PapaZoulou I want to be able to select exactly the army I want, within only the confines of a point system agreed upon by players. actually, we should be allowed to use our own custom 'painted' and hand-picked army that we have created in our own time and not in a rush just trying to counter the opponent on a timer

[@NeoYgdrassyl]

Stalkers... those are... Whraits!!!!

[@STEFAN9484]

what would be the suply limit in the game?

[@Belial1125]

didnt they get rid of tomb kings

[@gustavgreveback8562]

They are not heavy or light then they are medium not a strange mix

[@devoman203]

why arent you the head designer for CA?

[@stopmotiongarage220]

FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!!!

[@TheToki101]

Hi, cool vids although.... "finite" is pronounced like "Fy - night"

[@zeddtakashi671]

More vids!

[@jhafemeister0]

*Settra Does not Serve!*

[@LooneyPoliticsTunes]

Ever taken on a pure tomb king chariot army not fun yikes 😳

[@riv4lm4n]

it's coup de grass not gra omfg

[@DoddyIshamel]

I do wonder sometimes about what you come out with. Rolling 5 for a leadership test at Ld 10 is a pass, you roll under leadership not over it, surely you know that. I don't get why you think killing blow units would be good against large either, when on the tabletop large units are immune to killing blow (you need heroic killing blow for them).

[@gomspalt]

that repetitive muzak melody is melting my brain.

[@Lalle524]

3:06 WTF

[@justinwainwright5069]

FREE VARG!!!!!!

[@papazoulou9326]

3 votes for the dwarf faction on...

[@ShaunHaynam]

Rip Warhammer fantasy

[@scartioantolare5825]

you need to stop suggesting they limit how many of each unit they can have in each army that isnt a good idea and has never been a good idea outside of elephants whenever they do it.

[@Stoic_Zoomer]

First :D

[@Stoic_Zoomer]

Faderife of Mordheim bullshit!

[@aishakhan2841]

I think this army is shit to be honest... the Warhammer fantasy lore of them is complete garbage, I hope Total War doesn't follow the Warhammer version of these units. The infantry is weak and pretty fucking useless except as missle fodder, the cavalry is light and pretty much pointless, the monster units are defective and have too many negatives to be of greater use. Why don't the Tomb Kings have the undead, demonic armies of an Anubis-style? immortal demons that are masters of combat and veterans of countless battles. Where are the mummified guardians, that were also extremely high class masters of combat. Where are the massive scarabs and statue guardians, the hordes of undead slave warriors and champions? The Tomb Kings are similar to the Egyptians of earth, who were masters of combat, elite trained and insanely skilled... it's commanders were very intelligent and cunning. Similarly, the Tomb Kings should not be so weak, if they are without armor... understandable, but they should have increased armor penetration and weapon skill, more than armored foes.