Arctic Fox - A new web browser for old Macs

Arctic Fox is a new Pale Moon-based web browser for older Intel Mac computers running Mac OS X 10.6 or newer. Download it here: github.com/wic...
Discussion thread about it: forums.macrumo...

[@KOSMOS1701A]

The moment I saw "10.6 or newer" I went into my room, turned on my old iMac, downloaded this, went to youtube and played a 720p 30FPS video without any problems, it didn't like full screen but it ran a lot better than the last supported version of firefox, I hope these devs keep this browser going. By the by, its an iMac from 2006 with a core duo running 10.6.8.

[@andymadden8183]

*by the way

[@seanconnathon]

It's not even funny how much better 10.6.8 is than any revision of Mac OSX since. One word sums up why I think 10.6.8 is the best... spaces.

[@ThePeckAtTech]

KOSMOS1701A I’m in the same boat. I put Mountain Lion on my Core Duo iMac though. It’s surprisingly easy if you wanted to give that a shot. I have to say though I do prefer the older aesthetic of Snow Leopard

[@KOSMOS1701A]

@@ThePeckAtTech Yeah I tried it once, but i want the full 10.8.5 experience, not a pre-release beta that seems to be floating around the internet.

[@ThePeckAtTech]

KOSMOS1701A I’ll have to check in a bit but I’m almost certain I’m on the release stream. Not sure if it’s 10.8.5 but not a beta

[@S.0.K.]

Battery temperature -273.1 degrees Celsius. And I thought an Absolute Zero cannot be achieved.

[@20035079]

it's always a good day when vwestlife uploads. thank you!!

[@talesfromthelotuspodcast]

Agreed

[@the7thstranger939]

I just tried this out on my boyfriend's computer. This is such a major step up from the old version of Chrome he was running.

[@HobertMcFarlandtechandcargeek]

Loved that ending. Also, great to see older computers seeing use they wouldn't have if programs didn't support it.

[@DimensionDude]

I'm glad there are a few people who try to keep the old hardware going in today's "throwaway" world. I guess I'm lucky that my 2010 MacBook Pro can still run the latest MacOS release as it's my "daily driver." It'll even run for about 2 hours on the original battery. There was something about that Twitter page that looked familiar, just can't quite put my finger on it... ;)

[@kainhumphries]

you're right on the edge of full support too! If I want to run Mojave on my Mac Mini I'll need to grab a 2010 Macbook Pro WiFi card for it.

[@sburton015]

I have the latest version of Google Chrome running in Linux Mint 19 on a Sony Vaio desktop PC from 2005 with a Pentium D 820 2.8 ghz with 3 gb ram and it runs fine even for watching KZbin videos. For some reason, I actually like collecting old PCs. I even still have a Toshiba Satellite laptop from 1998 with Windows 98 second edition with a 266 mhz Pentium MMx cpu and still works fine at least with old software and even some (very limited) web browsing.

[@AttilaSVK]

I ran into the same problem on my 1st generation Mac Pro, which I firmware upgraded to 2.1, replaced the two dual core Xeons with 4 quad core ones, and the factory Radeon HD2600XT was replaced for a HD5850 (not flashed, so no boot screen). I was able to hack El Capitan on it, but Autodesk Fusion 360 would crash after about 5 minutes, and Cities: Skylines wouldn't start at all. I ended up installing Windows 10 on it, which gave this machine a whole new life. All the latest programs can run, Fusion 360 is stable and Cities: Skylines runs just fine. Shame on Apple that I have to turn to a Microsoft product in order to keep my Mac usable for my everyday activities.

[@jamiemarchant]

There is 'TenFourFox', which is a port of Firefox that runs on a Mac OS X.4 PowerPC. I am not sure if I would use it day-to-day(it's slow) but if you need an up to date browser, it is there. There was also Classilla for Mac OS 9, which was an attempt to get a modern browser on that system but I think it's no longer maintained.

[@windowsxp4853]

Classilla was sadly left abandoned for macOS 9. It still holds up to some extent though.

[@subbrian773]

When my obsolete 2009 iMac was out of commission, I was able to surf on my antique 800 mhz 2003 iLamp using TenFourFox. Of course many sites would not let me in with such an out of date OS.

[@guyjin788]

Just an FYI: Arctic Fox 27.10.1 is up at GitHub and it appears to have corrected the OSX crash bug. Currently only the 32 bit version is up, but it works on my Mac running OSX 10.6.

[@WaybackTECH]

Beatin' the devil out of that brush.

[@princeplotena]

Wow! Thanks, totally breathes new life into my old MacBook.

[@Vynncent]

6:13 Brand-new, **free** Acer gaming laptop? Was somebody getting revenge on their ex by giving away their stuff? On a more related note, I really wish more people would support old hardware like this. A majority of it is still useful and works perfectly, even after 10 years of use.

[@awesomeferret]

Microsoft does, credit where credit is due. They support Macs longer than Apple does (boot camp).

[@elkidgaming]

Thanks for sharing. Just downloaded to my macbook black (late 2008) and it's working so far. Love it when developers do projects for older computers and operating systems. New subscriber.

[@synchro505]

Many thanks for letting us know about this! My dear old Mac Pro pro audio setup running 10.6.8 has been in need of a more modern browser for years now. Long live legacy Macs!!

[@thinkindifferent]

Thank you for posting this! Works very well on my upgraded 2006 Mac minis

[@MacintoshMen]

Nice, thanks for sharing. I’ll give it a try on my 2007 iMac

[@mitchelvalentino1569]

I’m glad this exists. Thanks for the video!

[@para_dies8071]

Thank you for the information, its impressive how old macs can still be usable

[@AngelSonevski]

the fan thing also has the plus of working as planned obsolescence

[@justinb1384]

Thank you!. I was hoping something like this would work. Now I can used the web perfectly and working on 10.7.5

[@peterremke]

Installed and happy. Also managed to get iMovie 9 working to capture all those old DV tapes.

[@somegreenguy]

Oh my god this is amazing, about time considering TenFourFox is completely unsupported. I have a CD iMac so this is the best thing that could ever happen, props to the dev team

[@pspslimicesilver]

Still using my black MacBook from 2007 running Mojave. I love the classic design

[@LightTheUnicorn]

There is still TenFourFox around for PowerPC Macs too! Always great to hear about projects like Arctic Fox, there's still thousands of old machines out there with plenty of life left in them abandoned by the modern web.

[@maineboy1979]

Thanks for this! I have a friend who uses an older MacBook (about the same age as yours) as his sole computer and he has been running into problems lately because his MacBook can only run Firefox 48 or older. Arctic Fox could be a huge help for him. I will send him the link to your video.

[@SubstituteRealitiesChannel]

I recently obtain a 2007ish Macbook 2.1 and has been upgrading it. Web browser is a bit of a problem but this Artic Fox browser should solve my problems. Thanks for this video.

[@benkleinberg97]

Installed this on my Late 2006 Core 2 Duo education model iMac. Worked like a charm, except I can't play KZbin videos for some reason. It's good to see that you can still use old tech in the modern world, though.

[@antoniocruz4459]

What a wonderful machine, no matter its age... And enjoying another fantastic video

[@bigpaw01]

I have a 2010 white unibody MacBook. High Sierra is the last official build for mine. Still running it’s same battery that came with it.

[@AbandonedMaine]

Nice to see that it still runs OK. Someone abandoned one of those at the office because the main processor became unsoldered and required you to push down on it in order to make it work which seems to have been a common design flaw according to other people complaining about the same issue.

[@bavideomaker29]

Happy New Year! I loved seeing the Automatic For The People disc. I will throw ArticFox on my old MacBook. Thanks

[@MinoTheShow]

I’m glad to see this exists and as a variant of my preferred browser, Firefox. My first gen Mac Pro has had the necessary graphics upgrades to run OS X 10.11, which is a few versions newer than it officially supports, and new versions of application generally still run on it (at least much more reliably than when stuck on 10.7.5) but as time marches on this will definitely be needed. I use it as a media server primarily and I don’t see myself ditching it until it dies

[@TheComputerGuy96]

I have Mac OS X 10.11 El Capitan on my 2009 MacBook Pro with an SSD, but I still have the older hard drive with 10.6 Snow Leopard, which I can boot from via USB. Now I have a reason to try it out again!

[@vidmaker208]

Arcticfox Web Browser now supports Mac OS X Tiger and Leopard

[@brandonleon3772]

My ibook g4 when I bought it last year only had 14 cycles on the battery :) It still browses the internet just fine with a updated browser along with many other things.

[@CassandraCarter]

Now we just need a good web browser for Mac OS 9.

[@a4e69636b]

Please try Classilla.

[@FlintG]

I currently still use my first mac which was the mac mini from 2012. It works great still on the new mac os. I also use it as my plex server.

[@PlaidDin]

I'd love a version of Arctic Fox for Windows 98SE. It would be awesome browsing today's internet with HTML5 and correct formatting. And maybe even KZbin playback, because since Summer 2018, KZbin dropped support for some legacy codecs.

[@Gravarty]

KernelEx and Pale Moon for XP might work on Windows 98

[@PlaidDin]

@@Gravarty Woooosh, I totally forgot about Pale Moon. Version 26.5 allegedly works under Windows 2000, however I'm not sure if that might work under Windows 9x and KernelEx. Might try that out during the weekdays with my Athlon XP machine.

[@kp3wombat]

That’s a pretty cool browser. I’m going to have to try it on my old MacBook later.

[@johnroberts2905]

The connection error in Safari is for sites that require TLS v1.1. The payment card industry people require it for compliance nowadays, and Safari pre OS X 10.9 doesn't support it. Same for old versions of IE on Windows.

[@connorm955]

I love running these types of browsers in XP and Vista. I set my useragent to make sites think i'm running Windows 10 and the newest version of Firefox. Haven't had any problems displaying webpages or anything.

[@aegonthedragon7303]

I downloaded it and it’s great. Everyone should download. Let me do 720p hd on KZbin with no problems (except that for my macbook runs hot and loud)

[@pianokeyjoe]

LOL! Priceless! German Chocolate CDROM! Do not let Homer Simpson see that!

[@DodgerFanAD_23]

pianokeyjoe I heard his voice say “German Chocolate CD-ROM”

[@thundercloud2982]

Especially if he might think it's some kind of futuristic space doughnut. "Mmm... Space doughnuts..."

[@pianokeyjoe]

@@thundercloud2982 lol! amen! Priceless!

[@kathrynradonich3982]

Oh nice hadn’t heard of Arctic Fox. Been running 45 ESR when in 10.6.8 but most of the time I’m booted into Windows 8.1 on my Mac Pro

[@kbhasi]

To be honest, I was wanting to test the unstable port of Pale Moon to Mac OS, but the only Mac I had at the time was a 2006 model, so it was a 32 bit system, and the developer did not show interest for compiling the Mac OS builds for x86 32 bit, only 64 bit. However, assuming that works on 32 bit Macs, it looks like I'll have something better to use than Firefox ESR 45, as I already use Pale Moon as my primary web browser, except on Android where I use Firefox Focus and DDG Privacy Browser instead. 4:29 Yeah, I've had that error quite a number of times on my 2006 Mac Mini, which, as it's a 32 bit system, is stuck on 10.6. 2007 and 2008 Macs, on the other hand, tended to have 64 bit processors with 32 bit firmware, which results in them getting officially stuck on 10.7, however, I remember there was a guide on how to hack 10.8 onto one of them. 5:00 Ah, I see, it's a fork of the Pale Moon 27 series, and I assume they used that as they couldn't get the new Moonchild Productions UXP (which Pale Moon 28 and Basilisk use) to work on these older versions.

[@TimurTripp2]

The download page shows a 32-bit build available. But the Core Duo Mac mini can be upgraded to 64-bit, as Apple used a socketed processor in the 2006-2007 Mac minis.

[@morganrussman]

Didn't realize initially that you meant litterally on the chocolate cd, thought you just were just talking figuratively. With the artic fox logo, it kinda just looks like the Firefox logo that froze.

[@olik136]

this is kind of paradox- so much single board computers and cheap compact computers are sold today- when in theory we could just use a lot of old high end stuff... I guess planned obsolescence is the way manufacturers are "solving" that problem...

[@Charlesb88]

Oli K for some uses an older retro computer might work fine over single board or other cheap compact, but there are particular uses where a newer hardware is the only way to go. Single board computers like the RaspberryPi have the advantage of being very compact for uses where size matters. They are also better suited for use as part of a larger project such as building a robotic device, advanced weather station, retro-gaming system, etc. Any task where your writing all sorts of sensors, motors, switches, cameras, etc. They are just much better hobbyist computers then old PPC Macs or 32bit x86 PC’s/Macs. They also can somewhat cheaper then a suitable old computer for some use cases. As for the cheap compact PC, depending on the model, benefits can include a much smaller size, faster processor, ability to run a modern OS, modern IO like USB 3, or the ability to run modern apps not available or capable on the older computers. For some things though where space, speed, modern software, etc. is not so much the issue then using an older Mac or PC might work fine for a hobbyist project as you can get usb to serial adaptors for old usb only Macs, and DVI to HDMI cables for modern HD TV’s. With OS X Macs you have the Unix command line/subsystem to run Unix software and do programming in Python, Perl, etc. and with 32 bit X86 you can run Linux and mimic Raspbian, the Linux distribution made for the RasberryPi. So it all really depends on wha5 your trying to do.

[@oledcrt]

Using old high end stuff isn't practical due to its excessive size and power consumption, as well as its lack of support for modern instruction sets. Also, that isn't a paradox.

[@olik136]

@@oledcrt I know that it is no paradox- that is why I wrote kind of. The lack of support is exactly what the problem is- and the slightly worse power consumption is far far far outweighed by not needing to develop, make, buy and ship new tech. Of course that does not mean we should all use old Macbooks- but seemingly obsolete technology could be efficiently used as a resource- or at least the life span of products should not be intentionally shortened to make you buy new stuff- like when you have an older smartphone that still would do everything it needs to do- but doesn't get an update (not for technical reasons) and is now useless- there is no money in it- that is the reason

[@pessolanostudios]

I didn’t even know the cd at the end was chocolate until you said 😂, I was like wtf just happened lmao.

[@sugarbunify]

Thank you so much for this video! This is exactly what I was looking for. 😊 My husband gifted me a black 2007 Macbook for my birthday yesterday (one I had coveted when it was released and never was able to buy/enjoy, unfortunately), and I was trying to find a browser that would still work on it. :) Are there any other bits of software you'd recommend to play around with? I have a new Macbook Pro too so I don't necessarily need anything for like power-housing, but just some software rec's I may wanna play with or that I forgot existed?

[@m333x]

You really should get a battery for it as it relys on one to keep the CPU running at maximum power. Without one it just throttles to half speed.

[@elyzsabethahne2116]

One thing that I found does not work: trying to search in online Outlook mail for a specific email. All I get is an icon of a magnifying glass over two envelopes, under which it says "Searching..." This function does work in TenSixFox for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard for late 2008 Core2Duo Aluminum Unibody Macbook.

[@ShyMagpie]

When I saw all the Al Stewart albums I looked through the whole screen to see if you perhaps had a CD copy of Between the Wars

[@vwestlife]

I don't have that album, but I do have this which has several songs from it: www.discogs.com/Al-Stewart-On-The-Border/release/3389670

[@Thegirlisazombie]

That's cool! Going to be trying out on my old laptop that I still have Windows XP on it! Thanks for sharing! 👍

[@tomwarabino6943]

Thank you so much for your information

[@Jurtaani]

apple's hate for working computers (ones with actual cooling) didn't stop with the passing of steve jobs. they seem to keep doing this "let's keep cpu and gpu fans off, until they are throttling down and have reached 100c at least 5 seconds ago" bs with their current laptops as well. then to top this thermal nightmare off, they keep chasing thinner and thinner designs year after year. making the thermal issues worse with every new model. and yet people keep wasting their money, after their old apple devise dies.

[@damian9303]

You should of gotten those little plastic circle things, and put it in the middle so it could spin up the chocolate disc

[@TheMetalCrafter]

How can I download Acrtic fox to a Macbook Pro when Safari or Firefox cant's access the github site ? do you have a video for that, I'm trying to figure out how to download it to a thumb drive from one system to put it on the Macbook pro

[@georgesenda1952]

Tried it on my early 2008 Imac and got a message it was missing files so it would not work.

[@caswurms5370]

Hello, i have this browser, but i was unable to video chat on microsoft teams. It said something like i was not using the right tool to run your webcam and microphone.

[@KurisuYamato]

Oh snap, just what I could use for my 2007 Core Duo Mac Mini. Granted I just use that machine as a local server but it / when I replace it, it would be nice to have a current enough browser available for it, to use it as a low power writing station or something similar. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@KurisuYamato]

Oh, and regarding PowerPC and MacOS, there's always trusty TenFourFox. ;)

[@bramvandenbroeck5060]

I have found another browser that works with those old macs, its called new moon, which is also a fork of pale moon, it works a bit different but i prefer arctic fox

[@TdTSimonBE]

10.7.5 is hardly old, is it? Windows XP was released in 2001, 10.7.5 in 2012. Meanwhile Windows 7 was released in 2009 and all software still runs on that.

[@vwestlife]

Windows XP had its last major update with Service Pack 3 in 2008, including a new kernel.

[@dibyamartandasamanta583]

@@vwestlife XP has better browser than this mac . msfn.org/board/topic/180462-my-browser-builds-part-2/ github.com/Feodor2/Mypal Potplayer , Openoffice and ported Audacity, SumatraPDF latest one works , so

[@velvetpilot2008]

Thank you!!

[@smbu]

Thank you for the info about Arctic Fox. I was trying to find something useful for my early 2008 24" iMac to use with Snow Leopard. I couldn't at the time and ended up installing El Capitan. I'd like to move it back to Snow Leopard though and this would definitely help me out!

[@dave4shmups]

Great video!

[@kirillium439]

I used Waterfox on my Early 2008 MacBook before it began developing issues. Similar Firefox fork, but uses the modern layout instead of the classic "Pale Moon" style one in Arctic Fox. I've never seen a chocolate CD before, but I suppose that there is a first time for everything!

[@NJRoadfan]

Older unsupported Intel Macs can run the latest software still..... just under Windows 10 or Linux.

[@jamesd7195]

I’m going to try this out. I’ve been running Ubuntu Mate on my 2007 MacBook which supports the current version of Firefox, but I miss using my MacBook with its intended operating system.

[@NGOTB]

You should check out SeaMonkey for win xp or older. Note that you're gonna have to look for the individual os you're looking for. There's also a build of SeaMonkey for the 9x platform (mainly for 98 and ME).

[@ArielASMR]

Amazing. Thank you. Seems such a waste discarding a laptop to the heap just because the os no longer is supported. Very frustrating esp when like in my case my laptop still works well.

[@r0b0hobo]

I still use an old Mac to edit videos in FCP7 and almost every website is broken in some way. I'll have to check this out.

[@tremolux13]

This is great thanks a million!

[@Tall_Order]

I just wish Classilla was updated because TenFourFox runs seriously slow on my iBook G3 9000. I maxed out my ram on it too so there's nothing I can do hardware-wise.

[@illegalsmirf]

Is it possible/feasible to replace the unibody materials on a 2007 unibody Mac? I have one badly beaten up but it still works

[@retrogamerfoxxie]

Where is the download for it? Just got my old macbook working and I need a working browser.

[@Kramer7969]

I thought OLD meant PowerPC. It's crazy that they have been intel for so long that a Core 2 DUO is an OLD mac when macs have been around for over 30 years. So this is a dumb question, but do you only use old technology? Archiving all your music onto a computer that is possibly going to die soon seems like a risk. I'd guess it's a mechanical hard drive. I'm sure you could build a decent computer for real cheap and end up with better day to day usability than an early Mac Book.

[@TechMaxWare]

Just for the record, I just tested smcFanControl on my 2014 Macbook Pro, doesn't really work and even displays a message stating that it hasn't been properly tested with my machine. Kind of like you said though, I am not to worried about it with this machine, built-in fan control seems to work great. My 2009 Macbook Pro has never seemed to have much of an issue either.

[@smbu]

Have you tried Macs Fan Control? (an alternative fan control program to smcFanControl) I've been using that for years now without any problems on any of my Macs. I have tried it on my older 2008 iMac, but it's working fine on my 2018 Mini and my 2015 15" MBP.

[@TechMaxWare]

@@smbu Interesting, I might give that one a shot. Usually with what I do fan control hasn't been too much of a problem.

[@Gravarty]

Oh nice! Glad to see that people still support the best macOS release ever, Snow Leopard.

[@AAwArchie]

This may be very useful for my old MacBook pro

[@battra92]

I have a Core Duo Macbook (a year older than that) and unfortunately it only goes up to Snow Leopard. I actually haven't used it in a while. What's a shame is these were easy to repair and had a decent sound card with a Line input.

[@prabhathbandara]

Thanks man! You saved my ass

[@volvo09]

Very cool! Now I'm waiting for someone to somehow get a more modern browser working on win 3.1... Although that mac is MUCH newer than that. Good thing to see that running, the older macs were nice machines. I'll have to try that out on my P2 XP machine and see if it at least works, I know youtube wouldn't work!

[@irtbmtind89]

You should still be able to compile ffmpeg on that system to do video encoding stuff (though you'll have to compile nasm and at least x264 as well to do anything useful with it).

[@pijussimkevicius6149]

Cool! And a great video!!

[@stevesibaja3123]

The Apple Store will not work for downloading apps on a older Mac Desktop or Laptop the best way is downloading apps from a Windows PC to save it and copy it to a USB Flash Drive and bring the USB Flash Drive to a MAC Desktop or Laptop to install the new App or Software

[@andriealinsangao613]

Hey, @VWestlife, I don't know if you're aware, but WESTLIFE IS BACK!!

[@raafmaat]

You can just use a add-ons that changes your User Agent , this way you can make websites believe you are using the newest chrome/firefox , even tho you use some shabby old version

[@leonw1710]

It's a nice idea, but it won't let me log onto ebay or many other websites. Does anyone out there have a solution? Is there another browser that will work correctly?

[@UnleashedDan]

the icon is supposed to resemble Firefox

[@4clive]

I've just done an LED backlight conversion to an old A1181, it will keep it going for a few more years.

[@4clive]

@@TStudiosInc It certainly is.

[@KadMac25]

How? I would love to do something like this. Any tutorials that you can link?

[@leavingnormal88]

I downloaded it (for my Mac 10.6), but everytime I try an open it, it crashes and I get a "ArcticFox quit unexpectedly" message. Does anyone have any idea how to proceed?

[@vwestlife]

The developers are aware of that problem with the latest version. Just keep trying and eventually it will work: "If you get startup crashes with this release (27.9.19) on OS X, keep force reopening it 5-10 times until a dialog box pops up. Selecting 'reset preferences to arctic fox defaults' will fix it. Sorry for inconvenience. We are looking in to the cause."

[@leavingnormal88]

@@vwestlife Thanks for replying! I tried to reopen it quite a bit, to no avail. It's also saying "zero kb" so I will try and clear up some space on my computer. I tried to leave a comment/question in github's forum, but apparently I need an updated browser to get an account and leave comments haha.

[@guyjin788]

Yeah, I got this same problem on my 10.6 Mac. The reopen a bajillion times thing doesn't work at all. Anyone know where you can get an older version of this 'updated' (the irony) browser? I assume this bug is just in the latest release.

[@leavingnormal88]

@@guyjin788 Please let me know if you figure it out!

[@guyjin788]

I"ve just been visiting the Arctic Fox download page regularly to see if they got it fixed. I got no solution on my end.

[@m3chan1zr]

I always use TenFourFox for my PowerPC Macs but I’ve been in need for something in those early intel Macs. I have a 2006 MacBook Pro with the 32 bit intel core duo.

[@elyzsabethahne2116]

Try TenFiveFox for Leopard or TenSixFox for Snow Leopard. Re TenSixFox--download and install the 32-bit version for CoreDuo or the 64-bit version for Core2Duo.

[@m3chan1zr]

@@elyzsabethahne2116 Wow I didn't know about TenSix fox. I'll check it out, thanks!

[@urzu117]

>PowerPC macs aren't usable on the web my Powerbook G4 running TenFourFox would beg to differ, although it is true that youtube does not work on the single core G4. It will run on the dual or quad core G5 power mac however. You should give it a shot.

[@smbu]

Yeah, I tried youtube on my 12" Powerbook G4 not too long ago with TFF and it was not pretty. Sound seemed okay, but I was getting like 1 frame per 2 or 3 seconds! It's the fastest 12" 1.5Ghz model, but I'm sure the video card is much weaker compared to the 15"/17" models.

[@urzu117]

@@smbu there's no support for video decoding even on the newer pb g4s. If there is, I haven't found a way to get it working, stuff like QuickTime enabler and mactubes doesn't work for whatever reason. Might be because I'm stuck on 10.4 instead of using 10.5 but I don't see why any of those solutions wouldn't work.

[@urzu117]

Video decoding via graphics card*

[@HBC101TVStudios]

Do you have any plans to upgrade your 2008 MacBook Pro to the latest MacOS using OpenCore Legacy Patcher?

[@vwestlife]

No.

[@pokeclaws9349]

Does Arctic fox still work for KZbin? I was still getting denied access after I uploaded and try to utilize KZbin. I’m gonna give it another go, right now.

[@pokeclaws9349]

I’m trying to use a g5 iMac I upgrade to 2gig ram. I still am getting a bar through the icons to upgrade google chrome and safari.

[@pokeclaws9349]

Alright, I got it to work! Thank you so much for this video.

[@connorm955]

I used Firefox Legacy 68 on my MAc.

[@JonnyInfinite]

Opera is still supported on XP I believe. Not sure if it has an ESR for Mac

[@vwestlife]

Opera never announced ending support for Windows XP, however the last update they did for it was in 2016, so I don't think they will be updating it anymore.

[@JonnyInfinite]

@@vwestlife I thought they were still providing security updates for the last version supported.

[@vwestlife]

They were (for Opera 36), but the last update was in 2016.

[@foodandart5808]

You forgot to mention that SeaMonkey 2.40 is fully compatible with Snow Leopard and with a modest bit of digging, you can put in uBlock Origin, User Agent Switcher (with it's full list of systems as a download from a second site), noScript, and True Fullscreen in KZbin add-ons that will keep you as secure as you can be, and with the exception of online banking and broker sites like Scottrade or e-Trade, you can use any site. The ONE sole caveat that is non-finance related is Instagram, which is accessed with the User Agent Switcher add-on set to an iPhone 3 browser. With the UAS set to Firefox 55, SeaMonkey will even run the youtube in dark mode, which is nice. BUT, I will definitely put this in my MacPro3,1 - and put it through the add-on paces and see what works and doesn't - as I use Snow Leopard as my daily driver as I can't stand the way El Capitan runs with all the iCloud-enabled fooferaw. Thank you SO much for making this video!

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

the title says "old Macs" but I was hoping that included PowerPC machines but I guess we have TenFourFox and Classillica for that

[@vwestlife]

As I mentioned in the video, there is a version of Arctic Fox for PowerPC, but only for Linux. But they plan on making a Mac OS version as well.

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

+VWestlife ok

[@themaritimegirl]

Despite a clear view of the Nutrition Facts, it wasn't until 9:44 that I realized it wasn't a real CD 😂 Also, you're not very good at keeping up on your social media notifications :P My email inbox is the same.

[@EastAngliaUK]

It would be cool to test this on an XP install though have no slow pcs right now. I could try it on my dell 380 q9650 one.