Excellent and informative. No hyperbole. Thank you.
@channelwarhorse33674 жыл бұрын
Block Blue Ocean Event Make ice thick with open ended capped pipes, ait temperature is cheap and we layer nice down to the ocean floor....thermo couple by Alaska...Make deep ice there? Cools ocean depth? Lower sea level. Does this stabilize jet streams. How people do we need!
@Campaigner824 жыл бұрын
Great video as most times! I really like the animations you use with the text. Makes it a lot easier than listening.
@b.h.76615 жыл бұрын
What an excellent summary of this very complicated topic. Truly a great job. Thank you
@cecilhenry99085 жыл бұрын
“Climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.” - Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC’s fourth report. Speaking in 2010: 2hiwrx1aljcd3ryc7x1vkkah.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/ottmar.png
@Lorne.Mccuaig5 жыл бұрын
Another top notch video touching on the most important themes of our time whether we know it or not! Keep 'em coming Dave, well done.
@MrFinlandssvensk5 жыл бұрын
I like this informative video.The media has a militant attitude to the subject I can't take. Good work!
@allroundalpha14344 жыл бұрын
RIP Conrad Steffen
@donfields12345 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always, your doing a great service to humanity...the sane ones anyhow. ✌
@allroundalpha14344 жыл бұрын
Conrad Steffen RIP
@IIVVBlues5 жыл бұрын
Interesting food for thought. Expansion of industrial scale commercial fishing is perhaps the worst prediction for the ocean ecosystem.
@hightechredneck85875 жыл бұрын
I just found your Channel. I have to say you have a great format, very informative and interesting.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Theo. Much appreciated. All the best. Dave
@ronhenneberry14965 жыл бұрын
Also note that there are massive amounts of ice off Nova Scotia and Newfoundland that was not there last year. So you have less arctic ice but more ice in the more Southern latitudes.
@wannahockaloogiewannahocka10405 жыл бұрын
Just came across this video, very easy to listen too, well done fella. Will be watching more...
@ramblerandy23975 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Clear and informative. Congratulations on 5K+.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Much appreciated :-)
@mhappy015 жыл бұрын
You must be joking?? Emotive language, subjective tone and biased language from an amateur who has already decided the outcome. Why is he just looking at the Arctic? Whats happening in the Antarctic at the same time?
@ramblerandy23975 жыл бұрын
@@mhappy01 Because the Antarctic has different characteristics. It is largely land. It would require its own video.
@3rdrock5 жыл бұрын
@@mhappy01 You must be a denier. Right?
@mhappy015 жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@TheShootist5 жыл бұрын
you know there were Vikings in Greenland raising barley, wheat and cattle? And they did so for -~400 years between 850 CE and 1250 CE. Then it got cold. it is still too cold. Northern Europe used to produce wine as fine as anything from France. Then, in ~1300 CE they stop growing grapes. Why? It became too cold (Little Ice Age), and it still too cold. Oh, btw, grape vines take decades to grow large enough to be useful. That means it has to be WARM enough for DECADES to grow vines large enough for commerical application. Hasn't been and gives no sign that it will. When it is warm enough for cattle and barley on Greenland and has been for 300 years or so, call me.
@droverholt5 жыл бұрын
how about hundreds of thousands of Wolly Mammoths inside the artice circle grazing on tons of green stuff every day. We can adapt.
@davecarlson90885 жыл бұрын
In Minnesota, on the years we had early snow, it blanketed the ice preventing it from getting 3-4' deep. Parts of the lakes being unsafe to drive our semis and Monster Trucks across... 😁 Each degree C rise the atmosphere has 7% more humidity causing bigger storms. The record snows like this year are bad for ice growth in the Arctic.
@christinearmington5 жыл бұрын
Dave Carlson It’s taken this Florida girl awhile to appreciate the differences between snow and ice, especially how much tougher ice is to melt! 🥶
@channelwarhorse33674 жыл бұрын
Block Blue Ocean Event stabilize the jet streams? Make ice this year and thicken the ice cao...Just Have a Think!
@channelwarhorse33674 жыл бұрын
@@christinearmington lower sea level, Block Blue Ocean Event. What does Florida do with more land?
@EnvironmentalCoffeehouse5 жыл бұрын
Chock full of information on this topic.... one of the most important of our lives. Shared to our FB. 👍👍
@midlandernc74035 жыл бұрын
Usually northerly winds have shifted to southerly winds driving ice further north instead of South. Look it up. Wind patterns and jet stream decade oscillations are changing, entering the Eddy Minimum.
@petermartin94945 жыл бұрын
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@rovertrobert31805 жыл бұрын
this is the most noticeable change I have seen since I was a in my 20's. Winds have changed direction on the east coast of canada and we are having longer wind events and many more days over 50kph winds just in the past 5 years. I lived in the western end of Canada for 8 years, but was blocked in my mountains so the weather was relatively stable from the first time in went out west until a I left. Upon returning home the weather on the east coast was much different and more erratic than I had remembered. Winter with little snow then winter with 18 feet of snow ( a record). I see the jet stream slowing and oscillating to the north more and carrying warm air into the ice zones. This happened in the mid west US years ago. That event had people leaving once rich farm lands and former oasis' drying up and becoming environmental disasters (this is still a problem with air quality in the region today) This change was brought on by Jet stream changes. No one wants to consider this because there is no correlation with increased CO2 and jet stream change. Also humans dont know shit about this planet anyways so why do we listen to government agencies and paid propaganda campaigns forcing us to pay for a natural non man made problem.
@christinearmington5 жыл бұрын
Rovert Robert Jennifer Francis from Rutgers University has predicted for the last decade that increasing temperatures in the arctic will cause deep waves or amplitude in the jet stream. This is caused by the decrease in temperature difference between the equator and the North Pole. The lower gradient in temperature causes the jet stream to slow down so that not only are the troughs and ridges deeper (that amplitude), but they linger longer , keeping weather patterns in place longer. Since CO2 raises temperatures, there’s the connection to the jet stream.
@mralekito3 жыл бұрын
Wow, so in 2019 you had 5,000 subscribers. You've come a long way since then.
@aquaponics80125 жыл бұрын
Clear, concise facts presented in a calm non-fear mongering way. I wish you could give this presentation at the upcoming 2020 presidential debates. It would wake up the voters and the canidates. Bravo and thanks
@andersmatte5 жыл бұрын
Its natural ice decrease caused by global warming since last iceage.
@noergelstein5 жыл бұрын
@@andersmatte The earth has been cooling for 6000 years before starting to warm 120 years ago.
@aquaponics80125 жыл бұрын
exactly! I Would hope @Anders Mattson wouldn't deny the basics of chemistry and math?
@aquaponics80125 жыл бұрын
where exactly do you believe the chemical biproducts of co2 and methane from burning 88 million barrels of oil every day go?
@damienpol52155 жыл бұрын
Great news! Arctic sea ice extent is back to normal this year.
@swiftlytiltingplanet84815 жыл бұрын
Meaningless. The long-term trend is down, down, down. Same with ice volume.
@damienpol52155 жыл бұрын
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Nope. Sorry to burst your bubble of totalitarian, communist excitement.
@swiftlytiltingplanet84815 жыл бұрын
@@damienpol5215 Here's a short tutorial and reality check for you on where the icecaps are now in terms of melting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/np25iYJ5a8Zmg6c landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/antarctica-losing-six-times-more-ice-mass-annually-now-than-40-years-ago/ www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7556 www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/08/glaciers-melting-ice-melts-due-global-warming-sea-levels-rise/3405569002/
@braeburn23335 жыл бұрын
Really well done. Thanks!
@teekay8745 жыл бұрын
Compared to what?
@kirstinstrand62925 жыл бұрын
Yes, it appears that each of these climate channels has their unique interest. I have 4 favorites, now that I've added Just Have a THINK.
@braeburn23335 жыл бұрын
@@kirstinstrand6292 Thanks for your reply. I like Black bear news and paul beck withs channels; two of my favorite places to get environmental news. Alex Smith's podcast called 'radio ecoshock' is another great source of news and interviews. Many of the worlds top climate scientists and activists were interviewed over the years. Its really informative if you are interested in the nitty gritty details.
@owlnationlegal42285 жыл бұрын
Everyday for 20 years I wake and check the latest reports on the Arctic, the Amazon, Africa, the Middle East, Asia, Australia, Antarctica and more, plugging data into 150 websites I run, many on climate and renewable energy solutions. You did a great job with this one, clearly explaining the latency heat problem, loss of cooling and the likelihood of scorching temperatures across the northern hemisphere i just a year or two, perhaps five or ten if we're lucky, though that's doubtful. More likely an ice-free Arctic in 2019 or 2020 guarantees an abrupt spike in global temperatures, more record heat waves and wildfires, crop losses already down 20% to 30% worldwide in 2018, record famine, riots, collapse and Extinction when skilled labor stops maintaining 1600 nuclear facilities and toxic plants all around the world already leaking and destroying habitats, rivers and oceans. Our precious Plankton levels are already down 50%. Our primary oxygen machine is broken and our backup oxygen machine the Amazon, is being mowed flat by Brazil Bolsonaro. We have months, not years or decades to take aggressive action and try to retain the polar ice cap. We won't, and the change that will come in the next few months will be shocking as an exponentially accelerating pandemic of heat, famine, disease and violence capped by industrial Hazmat and radioactive ionizing gas sterilizing the entire surface of the Earth sweeps through civilization erasing 8 billion people almost overnight.
@danasaylor20175 жыл бұрын
OwlNation Legal m
@owlnationlegal42285 жыл бұрын
Well Veronica as long as you've got a couple of cases of wine before it goes to $500 a bottle, you can keep the mood a little more cheerful at your place. Don't forget a couple of solar panels on the roof and a small air conditioning unit in the window can keep at least one room cool while it's 120 to 130 degrees Fahrenheit outside. You'll become the hit of the neighborhood with that rig. Add wine, and ice maker, perhaps a water filter, since that infrastructure will likely collapse also and you'll be a lot more than a party. It'll be like a damn hospital triage unit with booze. How cool is that?
@owlnationlegal42285 жыл бұрын
Well I spent 20 years buying Beachside homes in Southern California, and finally threw it all away to move into a school bus and travel the coast, then made the transition to a sailboat at anchor where I make all my own power, as much water as I want, and I'm building my little garden onboard. It'll be enough food for me and I highly recommend everybody follows that pass. You can get a sailboat big enough for a family of 5 for a couple hundred bucks at any Marine Harbor lien sale auction. If you're on the west coast there's a magazine called Latitude 38, but anyone near a coastline can make a list of 20-50 Harbors, call each one and ask when their next lien sale will be. Go there with $500 in your pocket and someone who knows how to sail, walk away with a home that will last you for the rest of your life. Make sure it has good rigging and sales and a Rudder. You can always fix the engine and the electrical components later. Slap an outboard on the back and Away you go. Stock it with a year or two of food, build a water maker or two that works entirely off solar, then put the rest of your money into small solar panels and eventually larger ones and a small wind generator rig with some spare brushes and bearings. That will give you power for the next 10 to 20 years. And when temperatures go off the charts you can take your new home down to the southern hemisphere where you'll be close to the last ice on Earth that exist, and unlike your Northern Hemisphere Neighbors, you won't boil your brains out on a lazy summer day.
@droverholt5 жыл бұрын
nut case.
@owlnationlegal42285 жыл бұрын
I have yet to meet an American, rich or poor, in Congress or wishing to hang them all, who are NOT a "nut case", MOST of them tortured daily by the FACT a child moleater is in the White House. It even drives Republican politicians crazy they have to bow to that psychotic nut knowing if they blow him out 28% of Americans are so crazy they'll attack such a Republican for showing up with balls and brains. A man with ethics and balls would say "Ya know, we probably don't want a child molester President" but they don't exist and the Libtards lack nuts as well. The only people with balls are chasing AOC, who is the best/smartest bullwhip tongue in Congress and Americans are pouring their hope and prayer faith she can make a dent in that dysfunctional org.
@richarddobreny66645 жыл бұрын
And what happened to the water level in that glass, once the ice melted? Did the level go down? Hmmm
@magnamentis5 жыл бұрын
this is the way thing need to be presented while in fact those who should inform average people, the main media only throw around with buzzwords and half truth that can easily provide enough room for dispute while this kind of presentation is speaking for itself. can't tell how much i appreciate this and how glad i'd be if i could keep so cool while talking to those who close their eyes and prefer to stick to illusions.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Magna Mentis. Thank you for your feedback. I very much appreciate your kind words. I hope you continue to enjoy the programmes. All the best. Dave
@dogphlap67495 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another informative video. It is unfortunate that you are preaching to the choir but that is the nature of it I guess. It is staggering that in the face of such evidence we continue to head to the cliff edge at an ever increasing pace. Logically even if the evidence were less compelling I'd have thought it would be prudent to cut back on the greenhouse gases we are emitting but they continue to rise year on year. For the first time ever the dominant species had the knowledge to head off an extinction event and yet we continue to behave in the same suicidal way (and unfairly it won't just be our species that pays the ultimate price).
@joskojansa12355 жыл бұрын
Well, my friend... I guess you dont know what 7.5 billion ppl are all about. And I guess, you dont know how human psychopathy works. Good for you. Naive idiot..
@dogphlap67495 жыл бұрын
@@joskojansa1235 You are correct in as much as I don't know how human psychopathy works but I do know it is a human personality disorder which you appear to be suffering from. Get well soon.
@dogphlap67495 жыл бұрын
@therealnightwriter So I assume you believe that the whole of the qualified scientific community is involved in a conspiracy to fool me and others. Have you any idea how impossible it would be to maintain that lie with the literally tens of thousands of individuals that would have to be involved (and for what purpose) ? If you expect to live for another decade the odds are you will live to see the end of ice in the Arctic, at least in September, followed by year round blue water within the following decade so that should be a clue. If that fails to happen we will both be really pleased.
@enerzise31615 жыл бұрын
Real Science; #1 It is not as warm in this 50,000 year inter-glacial period as some in the past before humans. #2 The Co2 is only about 410 PPM and it at it's known height was 4,000 PPM. 100 times higher. #3 Most of the earths inter-glacial periods melted all earth ice in the oceans during summers. #4 The last two 50,000 Year Warming Peaks were warmer than this current one. #5 Earth Temperature Records have been recorded in the ice core samples taken by humans. This means the human records go back millions and millions of years. It is dishonest to imply humans only have started taking records in recent history. If humans take ice cores from millions of years ago, then records have been made for millions of years. #6 The 50,000 year warming cycle ended around 1998 to 2000 and the current energy is bleeding off for thousands of years and it is possible for the ice to melt off naturally(as it did many times in the past before humans were on earth). Though a 50,000 year glacial period is already started because the earth has passed the closest point it gets to the sun and as you read this, it is moving away from the sun. #6 If anyone looks at all the scientific data from the last several billions of years, they will see the planet is overall cooling. This is why the 50,000 year warming peaks will get progressively weaker. #7 NEVER in the past has the Co2 stopped the earth from cooling back into an ice age over the 50,000 year glacial period cycles. Not even when the Co2 was 1,000 PPM and it is only a measly 410 PPM. #8 If you take the top 4,000 PPM and estimate an average from the known low of 250 PPM during World War II, the current 400+ PPM of Co2 is considered low for earth. LOW, not HIGH. Recap; A. The Co2 is low, not high for 400+ PPM B. This warming is weaker than in the past 50,000 year warming cycles. C. Co2 does not stop the 50,000 year glacial cycles. D. The warming over the last 250 years is part of the 50,000 year inter-glacial cycle. E. No, it is not a threat, it is 100% natural and remember it is weaker. F. Satellite Data does not show the billions of years of KNOWN data on climate cycles. G. The 50,000 year warming cycle ended about 20 year ago. H. A 50,000 year glacial cycle is starting and this is why the earth is experiencing the shifts. I. There could be up to 8,000 years of energy built up in the earth that needs to bleed off. J. The Oceans will not rise from sea ice melting because it is already in the ocean. That glass could be filled with ice and then top it off with water and if all that ice melts, the water will not rise. That is known scientific fact. K. The current climate conditions are not out of the ordinary for a 50,000 year inter-glacial period, at the peak of a warming period, for earth. There have been millions and millions of them that were warmer than this and the Co2 was higher than this. L. The ice sheet was over a mile thick and covered most of Canada and some of the North East states of the USA, back 45,000 years ago. Where is it now? It has been warming for the last 50,000 years,not just 250 as the Science Deniers claim. This is how Real Science is Presented.
@dogphlap67495 жыл бұрын
@@enerzise3161 I've yet to see anybody deny the validity of ice cores for telling us the CO2 content of the air all the way back to 2.7 million years, a thousand times longer than humans have been around but not very far when it comes to the age of the earth. I've yet to see anybody claim the melting of sea ice will raise sea level. There are 3 rising sea level arguments (1), the melting of land supported ice e.g. Greenland ice, Antarctic land ice (2) thermal expansion of sea water (3) the rising of land that has been relieved of the weight of ice it once supported. We have entered into what would be a cooling phase of our present Milankovitch Cycle and indeed temperatures were slowly falling prior to the industrial revolution that got underway around 1750, they have been steadily rising since and at ten times the rate they were falling. Too much other stuff to comment on other than to say temperatures are rising at a rate evolution cannot cope with and that is before you factor in the methane bomb (which may not happen but probably will) from shallow Arctic seas and thawing Tundra (methane already counts for a third of the warming with CO2 and some trace gases accounting for the rest).
@veronicahaits52335 жыл бұрын
Scary stuff (but I'd rather know than not know). Thanks for the clear concise information.
@islandaerial34145 жыл бұрын
Coulda' swore 10 years ago, Al Gore said that there wasn't going to be ANY sea ice. What happened? Or, didn't happen? What about those Polar Bears? There are a lot more and Al Gore said they were in danger. Why is a warmer earth disastrous? We haven't been able to golf for over a month now... What happened to those Russian Icebreakers that got stuck last season? Was that thin ice too? NOAA: The gov't agency that has changed and manipulated data sets? Hmmm
@kymvanderkaag14745 жыл бұрын
Back then according to Al Gore, at a population of 35000 polar bears were all going to face extinction by drowning and starvation without sea ice. The polar bear population is now above 50000.
@salvadorhardin26445 жыл бұрын
@Vince if you google "Canada polar bear hunting quota" you will find out that Canada allows the killing of SIX HUNDRED polar bears per year, out of a population of about 20,000. And this is not new in any way.
@brooksanderson25995 жыл бұрын
Island Aerial: Al Gore is NOT a scientist. His Nobel prize was the Peace prize. I know of no peer-reviewed journal nor climatologist that cite Al Gore as an authority. Why not cite Dr. Peter Wadhams' book A Farewell to Ice. He has conducted more than 50 expeditions to the Arctic and Antarctic, most in nuclear submarines to measure Arctic sea ice thickness and aerial extent. Only a few of the posts on this thread are by qualified people. old geologist
@islandaerial34145 жыл бұрын
@@brooksanderson2599 Duh. The purpose of the video is education. Or, indoctrination if you are a catastrophe proponent. Of which I am not.
@brooksanderson25995 жыл бұрын
@@islandaerial3414 We already are in the, documented, Sixth Extinction. Since you, obviously, are not a scientist of any kind, you are not qualified to judge the matter of climate change. Also, I am much worse than indoctrinated, I am an advocate for attempting to cope, probably unsuccessfully, with climate change. Ref. my website: www.ciclicoahuila.com here in Mexico.
@Bra-a-ains5 жыл бұрын
Why are our stations in Antarctica keep getting buried by increased ice? By the way, after having their first 5 Antarctic bases buried by ice (Halley I, II, III, IV, V) since 1956, they built their 6th one (Halley VI)on skis. COOL!!! Now, as snow/ice accumulates in Antarctica and the skis get buried, like it has for decades, they just tow the base a few hundred feet and the skis rise to the to of the snow/ice as it is being towed. The British have learned to adapt.
@roberthogue48885 жыл бұрын
Michael Sanchez these fact you site are exactly why I started doubting AGW.i learned what you state form a program on tv about a new replacement facility being built at the South Pole. This didn’t seem to correlate with what I was hearing and reading from the media.about polar ice disappearing. That’s when I starting researching this matter and the research brought me to conclude there’s really nothing serious or dire going on here. Sure the models predicts their should be, but the actual temperature data doesn’t indicate that. Unless of course you believe the last El Niño being 0.01 degrees centigrade higher than the 1997 El Niño means we’re all going to burn to death soon.
@bencoad84925 жыл бұрын
yea its the solar cycles seem to be control our climate more than any other factor
@Nhoj7375 жыл бұрын
@@roberthogue4888 Not burn, starve.
@lewisticknor28005 жыл бұрын
Robert Hogue It hasn’t happened yet. It will happen though but my suffering will not be as bad as the constant lecturing. Hopefully 600 meters of water will knock out the internet first.
@christinearmington5 жыл бұрын
The station has recently been moved because the Brunt ice shelf is cracking off.
@mikeharrington55935 жыл бұрын
Excellent communication & info. Thanks.
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
sure, if you like to absorb and believe incomplete presentation of data and facts that climate change propagandists love to spew.
@mikeharrington55935 жыл бұрын
@@yousurf374 You're on your own pal.
@peterjohnstaples5 жыл бұрын
@@mikeharrington5593 YouSurf is at least not with sheeple
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@@mikeharrington5593 which is perfect and MOST reasonable.... I do not "hang with lemmings as with the "man made climate change" crowd"
@GoWestYoungMan4 жыл бұрын
Could call this channel 'Science for Dummies'. It breaks things down into bite sized chunks in terms regular people can understand. In this sense, this channel is invaluable. The masses do need to understand these things. I'm not suggesting you change the name of the channel though. I like what it's called.
@jmuld15 жыл бұрын
But Al quoting the scientists said artic ice would be gone by now, why do you fail to address this?
@jmuld15 жыл бұрын
@Donald McCarthyNo evidence and in your religion insults are science?
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
I presume you mean Al Gore? A non-scientist politician (mis)quoting or being (mis)quoted about what a few scientists may have said isn't very interesting. I'd recommending sticking with actual quotes of what the scientists said, in context, rather than regurgitations from ignorance.
@sumhavefun5 жыл бұрын
Because he does not have any facts just assumptions.
@sumhavefun5 жыл бұрын
@@ArchaeanDragon Al is the same person that came up with the 90ish consensus. What a bunch of morons.
@jmuld15 жыл бұрын
@Donald McCarthyWhen you have no evidence insult but I remember writing that it must have jogged on.
@radtech51785 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and please make more!
@channelwarhorse33674 жыл бұрын
Make Block Blue Ocean Event Make ice this year before is to late and dump heat to space!
@majorpayne83735 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know what the Artic icepack was like in the 1920's and 30's. The hottest world-wide temperatures of the last century occurred then. And, to be sure, that was NOT caused by any increase in co2.
@Nhoj7375 жыл бұрын
“For climate change, there are many scientific organizations that study the climate. These alphabet soup of organizations include NASA, NOAA, JMA, WMO, NSIDC, IPCC, UK Met Office, and others. Click on the names for links to their climate-related sites. There are also climate research organizations associated with universities. These are all legitimate scientific sources. If you have to dismiss all of these scientific organizations to reach your opinion, then you are by definition denying the science. If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition. So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.” thedakepage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/how-to-assess-climate-change.html
@enerzise31615 жыл бұрын
@@Nhoj737 Real Science; #1 It is not as warm in this 50,000 year inter-glacial period as some in the past before humans. #2 The Co2 is only about 410 PPM and at it's known height max was 4,000 PPM. 10 times higher than nowadays. #3 Most of the earths inter-glacial periods melted all earth ice in the oceans during summers. #4 The last two 50,000 Year Warming Peaks were warmer than this current one. #5 Earth Temperature Records have been recorded in the ice core samples taken by humans. This means the human records go back millions and millions of years. It is dishonest to imply humans only have started taking records in recent history. If humans take ice cores from millions of years ago, then records have been made for millions of years. #6 The 50,000 year warming cycle ended around 1998 to 2000 and the current energy is bleeding off for thousands of years and it is possible for the ice to melt off naturally(as it did many times in the past before humans were on earth). Though a 50,000 year glacial period is already started because the earth has passed the closest point it gets to the sun and as you read this, it is moving away from the sun. #6 If anyone looks at all the scientific data from the last several billions of years, they will see the planet is overall cooling. This is why the 50,000 year warming peaks will get progressively weaker. #7 NEVER in the past has the Co2 stopped the earth from cooling back into an ice age over the 50,000 year glacial period cycles. Not even when the Co2 was 1,000 PPM and it is only a measly 410+ PPM. #8 If you take the top 4,000 PPM and estimate an average from the known low of 250 PPM during World War II, the current 400+ PPM of Co2 is considered low for earth. LOW, not HIGH. Recap; A. The Co2 is low, not high for 400+ PPM B. This warming is weaker than in the past 50,000 year warming cycles. C. Co2 does not stop the 50,000 year glacial cycles. D. The warming over the last 250 years is part of the 50,000 year inter-glacial cycle. E. No, it is not a threat, it is 100% natural and remember it is weaker. F. Satellite Data does not show the billions of years of KNOWN data on climate cycles. G. The 50,000 year warming cycle ended about 20 year ago. H. A 50,000 year glacial cycle is starting and this is why the earth is experiencing the shifts. I. There could be up to 8,000 years of energy built up in the earth that needs to bleed off. J. The Oceans will not rise from sea ice melting because it is already in the ocean. That glass could be filled with ice and then top it off with water and if all that ice melts, the water will not rise. That is known scientific fact. K. The current climate conditions are not out of the ordinary for a 50,000 year inter-glacial period, at the peak of a warming period, for earth. There have been millions and millions of them that were warmer than this and the Co2 was higher than this. L. The ice sheet was over a mile thick and covered most of Canada and some of the North East states of the USA, back 45,000 years ago. Where is it now? It has been warming for the last 50,000 years,not just 250 as the Science Deniers claim. This is how Real Science is Presented. I am a retired Science and History teacher. The speaker in the video is the Science Denier. Satellite Data does not show the true millions and millions of years of known data on earth climate cycles. This means his presentation is Cult Preaching form a Cult Religion based on fake SKYence. Yes, all those agencies have it wrong because they are all going off from the same original Cult Religion SKYence data that denies real Science. That is how it snowballs. Go back over my post to refresh the real science into your brain. You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. Free from what? SKYence Lies of their Cult Religion that Denies Real Science. By the way, the 413 PPM Co2 is an average. It is not 413 PPM all over the earth. Some places it is higher and some places it is lower. Co2 moves around in pockets and then there is the overall average. It must stay above 149 PPM or all live on earth will start to die because the trees, grass and plants need it to be above that or they start to die. Then everyone and all the animals start to die because the trees, grass and plants converts Co2 into Oxygen. Skyence is fake and Denies Real Science.
@myra72735 жыл бұрын
Gee, Tim, if you took 5 minutes of your own time, you should be able to locate that information all by yourself, instead of asking about it here. Do you require assistance with the search?
@enerzise31615 жыл бұрын
@@myra7273 Tim is being sarcastic. He knows it was warm because the Jet Stream went south as it does from time to time. During the last great ice age, the same area was warm, while there was a 1+ mile thick ice sheet covering most of Canada and the North East USA. The Jet Stream goes south and eventually north again and it does that no matter what the Co2 is doing. Droughts are worst during an ice age and flooding is worst in an ice age and freezing long term unending winters are worst in an ice age and they are in specific locations on earth all at the same time. The ocean is about 400 foot lower than it is now and sometimes the Co2 is higher than it is now. The Co2 is about 410 PPM and has been up to 4,000 PPM in the past. The Co2 has never in history prevented the 50,000 year glacial period from starting. No matter how high is has been. 400+ PPM Co2 is not high, it is low for the earths history of Co2. Co2 in the 1930's was about 300 PPM, yet the North ice was melting and the USA thought an Ice Age was starting. You can read it in the 1930's papers of the time. The most EF-4 and EF-5 Tornadoes in American history in the 1930's also and the most expensive hurricane to hit the USA was in the 1930's also(Miami, Florida). The most bridges lost to flooding and storm surges damaging cities and killing people in the 1930's. All in the papers of the 1930's. In 1926 the volcanic activity in Hawaii were erupting just like it had been for the last few years. These eruptions in 2017 and 2018 were considered worst than the 19026 eruptions. So we might guess the next ten years or in 6 to 7 years the same cycle would hit, though it could have started a couple years ago because these cycles are not exact. They can vary by ten to twelve years either direction.
@myra72735 жыл бұрын
@@enerzise3161 Thank you for your response. I see nothing to indicate that Tim is being sarcastic. Please explain how you arrived at that conclusion.
@richardabrahams5853 жыл бұрын
The real truth about science!!! Excellent bravo lots to learn from this channel!!! The truth!!!
@latitudetwentyfive5 жыл бұрын
Lets just limit our analysis to last 170 years ( less than 6 plot points on a climate chart) since weather started warming after the Little Ice Age and the Arctic. Never mind the Antarctic is gaining ice and there are times in history the Arctic was ice free when humanity enjoyed prosperous times. Lets hope the cooling event we are now starting to see is mitigated by our CO2 emissions but alas I think it won't be sufficient.
@69yahwhatever5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to read something by someone that actually thinks..... As a society we are corrupt, even when we are confident we are correct we generally find out we are wrong. That being said, many of us know this is true-may as well cash in on our corruption. There is no way to know weather or climate
@flotsiepotsie5 жыл бұрын
Luckely you mentioned EXACTLY what I was thinking through this biased video.
@huitzilopochtli46555 жыл бұрын
Guess, some people need to wait till their kids have nothing to eat to actually believe the science. You ignorant people don't have any clue about this, do you? If you had any idea about the gravity of the situation, you would start running now. Once the arctic sea ice is gone, it would take as little as ONE year for the crops to fail by more than 50% globally, to reach the point of no return. All those idiotic movies you watch about zombies, viruses, nuclear wars and alien invasions are nothing compared to how bad the reality will turn in just a few years. And no, it's not just gonna affect some far away 3rd world countries (which happen to produce most of the stuff you consume), it's gonna hit you right here. All the past recessions, hunger and wars can't compare to the scale of impact we are in for. Our economy is not built to deal with an accelerating crop loss as well as exponential intensity and frequency of extreme weather events. It's not a temporary event that can be waited out and gonna fix itself somehow. This is real, big, and happening now. The 6th mass extinction, accelerated 10-fold by homo sapiens. And no, it won't take thousands or hundreds of years to unfold. A decade at best, but I wouldn't count of the second part of this decade as livable anywhere on this planet. Once we start losing crops, we will start losing people, and once we lose 20-30% of the population, we will start losing the nuclear and chemical plants around the world. We have over a thousand nuclear facilities that need 24/7 maintenance and monitoring. To safely decommission even a single one takes millions to billions of US dollars! I will live it to your imagination from this point...
@salvadorhardin26445 жыл бұрын
@@huitzilopochtli4655 Buddy, get a clue. The famine shit has been already predicted - most of us were supposed to starve by 2000. Arctic ice isn't going anywhere. NASA said 2016 to 2018 was the greatest global temperature drop on record at 0.56 Deg Celsius.How's that for global warming?
@latitudetwentyfive5 жыл бұрын
@ Huitzilo Pochtli.... Hmmmm nice rant and no facts. Please visit today " Trading Economics" Commodities section and check out the agricultural section which shows how prices are moving and check out history of grain price movements as climate has changed. You will find during cooling episodes (Dark Age) grain prices soared and empires imploded and during warm periods (Medieval Warm Period) grain prices declined and humanity thrived along with empires. Please review history of humanity. We should be celebrating the warm times we now experience and the incredible advancement of humanity in the last 200 years because these times will not last. The next cooling event is with us now and will become more apparent in the next twenty to thirty years. Please do some proper climate research over at least the last 100,000 years and study the long term cycles instead of what has happened in the last 170 years. A good place to start would be with reviewing some you tube video's of the late professor Bob Carter formerly of James Cook University and look into the East Anglia climate email scandal and the infamous Michael Mann hockey stick scandal. Nobody doubts that there has been warming since The Little Ice Age ended and humanity has via CO2 emissions made a small contribution to warming but it has not been proven to be dangerous global warming. You should be skeptical of the IPCC which is an instrument of governments and who can trust governments these days. Unfortunately governments have their global warming narrative now tarted up as "climate change" so they can tax the air we breathe and big business can profit from green energy. The climate scientists rely on government grants so they can eat too and their skewed findings are further manufactured to fit the narrative when compiling the IPCC reports. It should be noted that I am personally against emissions of actual particulate pollutants, and agree fossil fuels should be left in the ground. Unfortunately, there is too much money to be made in the fossil fuel industry and alternative sources of free energy are being suppressed. Good luck with your research. Cheers from OD
@michaelmeehan55055 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode. Terrifying. But excellent. Can you let us know what is the footage from 1:45 to 2:00 from? Thanks
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael. Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated. The footage is from a BBC documentary that you can watch on You Tube at this link kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnapZ2l9h8qWh8k
@nickelbrille15 жыл бұрын
Although I am not a native English speaker. It is very easy to follow your explanations. Thank you for your great work. Alfred from Munich
@annieo27665 жыл бұрын
A very simple experiment illustrates his point very effectively: Take a beaker of ice cubes, and fill with water. Put in a thermometer. Then heat slowly with a Bunsen Burner. Plot the temperature every 30 seconds or so. The graph will stay at 32 degrees until the ice melts, then rise rapidly.
@69yahwhatever5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, maybe you should try this yourself-not going to work like you say. Floating ice will not effect the water level in the glass. Only if tge ice is anchored to land and rises above the water level will sea level rise....guess what? Arctic is a floater. It could dissapear- water level. Will stay the same.
@Nhoj7375 жыл бұрын
@@69yahwhatever L.O.L. S/he is talking about the change in temperature, not the level of the water!
@69yahwhatever5 жыл бұрын
@@Nhoj737 ice requires 340btu/lb to change state from ice to water.this is not news, self evident. I did miss the context ...but so did she. If its floating ice its irrelevant, its also irrelevant as noone knows what is normal in the Arctic. In the 1970's nasa thought we were going into an ice age because thr ice in the arctic eas too large(
@Nhoj7375 жыл бұрын
@@69yahwhatever "In the 1970's nasa thought we were going into an ice age because thr ice in the arctic eas too large". You have a reference, not just an assertion?
Thank you. I absolutely appreciate the excellent way you present information. I seem to always have an 'ah-ha' moment where I more clearly understand some aspect of this whole complex climate change thingy.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Marcia. Thanks, as always, for your very kind comments. It really does make it all worth while to hear that the videos are helpful or informative in some way or another. Have great week. Dave
@samlair33425 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you introducing the concept of “latent heat of fusion”. (and more material, in such an actual factual way). Truly, I’d had no idea about this. The more I read about the particulars of global warming, the more I realize how complicated the overall ‘artificially induced climate change’ situation is. Your raising all of our levels of consciousness is a valuable contribution towards mitigating global warming. If I understand correctly, the amount of heat energy that is needed to melt ice in contact with water (sea ice) is the same amount of heat energy that would be required to raise that newly melted ‘0 degree Celsius water’ to ‘79 degrees Celsius’ (scalding hot water). Thus, when sea ice is no longer acting as a heat sink, the ocean water takes on the full thermal warming effect of the sun (plus, the reflectivity of the ice is gone). Here’s some sites I visited to help understand it better: Heat of fusion - example problem - melting of ice: www.thoughtco.com/heat-of-fusion-melting-ice-problem-609498 Enthalpy: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy How to measure heat of fusion of ice: sciencing.com/measure-heat-fusion-ice-8097648.html Latent heat: www.britannica.com/science/latent-heat
@samlair33425 жыл бұрын
Note: I shared this something ‘new to me’ with my middle aged daughter knew all about it already. She’d learned about latent heat of fusion during her freshman year in high school. She admitted, though, that she hadn’t thought about it in relation to climate change. Thus, she says that she appreciates your sensible approach to bringing scientific knowledge to bear on the subject of climate change.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. Yep. I think you nailed it. Thanks for your feedback, and I'm delighted to also hear feedback from your daughter too. The generation who are in school right now are the ones I worry about most though. They have a world of challenge ahead of them, and none of it is their fault. I don't blame them for being angry at us!
@9squares5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is the crux of the issue.
@joskojansa12355 жыл бұрын
You're almost on it
@kevingrove43795 жыл бұрын
Have you been monitoring the sea ice personally for the last 120 yrs? If so,kudos, I salute you .
@Don-kr5tp5 жыл бұрын
He uses data from a specific point in 2018. Since then the ice thickness is at very high levels. Be wary of selective data.
@Opitman5 жыл бұрын
Can you please site where he uses only "uses data from a specific point in 2018"? From what I can see he presented data of both sea ice extent and thickness/volume at winter maximum and summer minimums for a range of years dating back to the beginning of accurate measurements. If you would like to make your own video showing the same data but for all 12-months of the year - or indeed all 365 days of the year then your are most welcome - I for one will all certainly watch with interest. Please post a link here when you do. But I suppose that you will not do this because you know as well as I do that the trend will be the same regardless of the "specific points" in a year that you choose.
@konic405 жыл бұрын
if he showed the graph of the annual fluctuation of the ice volume through the years it would have been better. the mins happen in September at it seems to be pretty consistent, always melting down to about 5000km^3.
@ttmallard5 жыл бұрын
It's a heat-balance equation, the 2007 minimum gained 95,000-Terawatt hours of heat that year, closing all steam plants 250Mwh and larger is a one•time save of 36,000-Twh. That's the deal, we require zeroering emissions and actual cold-forcing, the heat radiated retains 1.4-watts/sq.m now so 36k-Twh retains 50.4k-Twh of heat. As the homeless epitaph goes, "Good Luck!" ...
@robertgallacher72145 жыл бұрын
You ever wonder how much energy is lost to space through reduced ice cover in winter ?
@ttmallard5 жыл бұрын
@@robertgallacher7214 Heat is transferring through the ice presently, it's so thin it conducts and unfortunately fresher water is at the surface so melts it from below, so, the water isn't getting cold enough to freeze saltwater at -2C/28.4F, melting is going on all year now, big change. On earth.nullschool.net ... the pale orange is thin ice, black is freezing, the thin extent is huge; earth.nullschool.net/#2018/11/13/0600Z/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=-168.54,82.33,832
@patrickmcnulty8485 жыл бұрын
Truly spectacular video David..
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
too bad it leaves out most relevant facts that global warming propagandists have ignored to make their "MODELS" show a conclusion (false) that THEY want to portray.
@biggav74345 жыл бұрын
YouSurf - Dude ur just an idiot
@peterjohnstaples5 жыл бұрын
@@biggav7434 That shows your intelligence. Insults are worth ZERO
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@@biggav7434 actually, DUDE... I am in very superior range of IQ.... YOU, I am sure are not. Typical idiot liberal I bet...
@biggav74345 жыл бұрын
Do you believe the greenhouse effect exists ?
@PeaceBee685 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I knew there had to be a British person out there following this stuff! (Not that the nationality of other vloggers stops me watching them.) I'm only astonished it's taken so long for you to come up in my KZbin suggestions!
@biggav74345 жыл бұрын
Fairly upbeat demeanour of the host, considering the implications. Great stuff tho. So clear, concise, factual.
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
his upbeat demeanour causes you to believe this is clear, consise and "FACTUAL" like all the facts are presented... Man propaganda is so easily pushed onto the masses via social media and lazy recipients. MY God... this is sad.
@biggav74345 жыл бұрын
What facts in the video did you have a problem with and why ?
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@@biggav7434 ....actual IMPORTANT factors/facts/influential items he FAILS to mention... all being natural in the universe, that truly affect out globe/environment to a high degree but where idiots make believe it is man made issues. For instance, I posted a link here in this thread to a video that does explain more/most but still not all. You can find the link in a post of mine in this thread as a reply to an idiot or two.
@biggav74345 жыл бұрын
Louix, the world IS ending, it's already underway. Checkout the floods in Idaho, Nebraska. In Australia we have 2 powerful cyclones hitting the coast this weekend. The true retards are those that can't see the obvious.
@dnboro5 жыл бұрын
@@skydivekrazy76 You state: "Is the climate changing? Yes, just as it has for 4 BILLION years." WOW - that's amazing. None the climate scientist would know that the climate has changed before would they! No, no no, they would have no idea that the climate has changed before. Do you really believe that the worlds climate scientists don't now that the climate has changed before. Really??? Just maybe they have studied previous climate changes. Maybe the have more understanding of the natural drivers than you! Maybe they know that right now, the natural drivers should be COOLING the planet slowly!!! But we are warming fast! But if you know more than them, then please publish your evidence that this warming is natural. Make sure you show what natural driver is causing the upper atmosphere to cool whilst the lower warms - hint: it is a signature of the enhanced greenhouse effect! BTW - Its role not roll.
@thetruth47915 жыл бұрын
Thanks Buddy for the great Video ,would love to see an update......
@JW-nh5or5 жыл бұрын
Excellent information. Not widely discussed at all but very important.
@djbrettell5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, enjoyed the video. I'm interested in the declassified submarine ice thickness data you mentioned. Is it in the public domain? Took a quick visit to Ocean Tunnels FB page but didn't see it there. Discussed that long comment from the previous video over beers on Friday, but was too busy with work over the weekend to address it. A video idea might be to look at how fast extreme changes in temperature (hot to cold to hot in a matter of days) and also rainfall (downpour - sunny/dry - downpour) affects city infrastructure as well as crops and wildlife. I wonder to what extent infrastructure can become damaged by quick variations of temperature and rainfall.
@steve.schatz5 жыл бұрын
If Arctic sea ice extent and thickness increases after the two years of El Nino events, what is the correlation with CO2?
@WhirledPublishing5 жыл бұрын
The correlation is to the massive heat rising up from seafloor volcanoes. Fake experts fail to notice the true correlation because they're programmed to point the blame on CO2 www.google.com/search?q=gakkel+ridge+volcanoes+heat+temperatures&rlz=1CAPPDO_enUS819&oq=gakke&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j0l3.2708j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
@alexjackson18635 жыл бұрын
Nope. Ice melt is correlated to the steaming hot bullshit expounded by @@WhirledPublishing.
@alexjackson18635 жыл бұрын
Everything. Two years is rarely a correlation. The ice has been melting for DECADES. Human emitted CO2 has been increasing for DECADES. Back to statistics class for you Steve.
@WhirledPublishing5 жыл бұрын
@@alexjackson1863 Let's see if I'm understanding you: You haven't been monitoring glacial melt for nearly 20 years - like I have, you haven't tracked it back over 600 years using historic documents, translated from over a dozen languages - like I have, you haven't studied chemistry and physics for decades - like I have, you haven't studied geological formations, cataclysms and wave propagation for decades - like I have... You're unaware of the 8,000 glacial lakes that suddenly appeared on the West Antarctic ice sheet, and you don't know why the thousands of glacial lakes appeared, you haven't tracked the activity of the Antarctic eruptions, going back over 300 years like I have, you haven't compiled dozens and dozens of reports on the glacial melt - like I have, you haven't compiled numerous videos that verify the rapid melting - like I have, you're not a Doctoral Scholar like I am, you haven't served as an expert witness for the court judges like I have, you're not a member of an international research group like I am - but your one great accomplishment in life is deluding yourself into imagining that you're in a position to launch an attempt at an insult in my direction - have I got that right or did I leave something out? Yes, of course, I left out the part where I've studied the reports on the Antarctic ice in the captain's logs going back hundreds of years, I've studied the reports on the early Antarctic expeditions going back over 100 years ago, I've studied the reports on the Magellan Strait, Drake Passage, the Eltanin cataclysm, etc. Those that believe the lies and lunacy from the fake experts that are propped up by the billionaires to intentionally mislead the public are the ones blowing hot air - the public is lied to about the timeline for the Antarctic mountains, the Antarctic glaciers, the Antarctic ice shelves and the eruptions of the Antarctic volcanoes - those that are satisfied with their "lab results" and their idiotic theories are free to go back to what you were doing - you can forget I mentioned it.
@alexjackson18635 жыл бұрын
@@WhirledPublishing , I took your comment as a joke. So let me get your assertion correct. You assert that the current warming on Earth is due to undersea volcanoes? And you are trying to assert this based on your time "studying" and your "credentials"? Just take a moment from your unbelievable arrogance and think about the tens of thousands of real scientists who are much more qualified than you, with much more experience than you with hard scientific evidence that have a different theory to you (not an hypothesis like yours - you would understand the difference - sarcasm). If you have got repeatable, reliable scientific evidence to support your hypothesis then write a scientific paper, get it reviewed and get it published in a scientific journal. Then you can reference it when trolling on YT. Oh, and for the record, the dribble you have on your channel is NOT scientific evidence. As the saying goes, 'either put up, or shut up". Also, for the record I am 55 and have been studying human affects on Earth since I was 23. That calculates to 32 years. I also have a postgraduate education. Furthermore, if you think the current billionaires want to promote climate change and therefore have to change their current business models which are currently earning them billions of dollars, then Sir, you are clueless about humanity.
@kurtrawson30685 жыл бұрын
Very Scary, thanks for your video!
@barry76085 жыл бұрын
well explained look forward to more
@johnberbatis70312 жыл бұрын
Peter Wadhams is an emeritus professor of Ocean Physics, and Head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group in the Department of Applied. Dear Sam, This is utterly frightening. I have seen you write before about the 1200 ppm cloud tipping point, and have always been aware of it because of its potential link with an Arctic methane burst as per Shakhova. But like so much in climate one tends to forget it and focus on the familiar questions of CO2 and methane considered individually. If the cloud tipping point is passed, an 8C temperature rise will certainly wipe out the human race, and pretty quickly. Why then is the human race not flagging this as the direst and most immediate threat that we face? 4 August 2022 World leaders and policymakers are meeting in the Scottish city of Glasgow.“If we lose the Arctic, we lose the globe,” World leaders and policymakers are meeting in the Scottish city of Glasgow to expedite climate commitments.3 Nov 2021 As of 2/8/22, the Arctic ice has retreated allowing the sun's rays to penetrate their way to the coastal sea floor and subsequently, melt the methane clathrates. It has been posited that a 20 gigaton burst of methane would seriously disrupt global weather patterns ruining food production. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paTQq4eJjrd9gKc
@sumhavefun5 жыл бұрын
100 mile radios more Article sea ice today than in the 70s, don't figure.
@jamespyke67645 жыл бұрын
Your post makes no sense. Do you want to try again in English?
@kenrose90655 жыл бұрын
"Melting sea ice will cause the oceans to rise and flood coastal cities." The next time your full glass of water and ice melts, your glass will not overflow and flood your dinner table. Trust me... for all those who didn't get past grade 3, try it for yourselves...
@scottekoontz5 жыл бұрын
I doubt this was said in this video, but melting ice on land can and does cause sea level rise. Also, the simple warming of existing water makes it less dense.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ken. It's of interest that your first sentence is in quotation marks. It would be helpful to know where that quote is from, because it is not from the video that you are commenting on. All the best. Dave
@bigJovialJon5 жыл бұрын
This question was answered well before Trevor Noah became host of The Daily Show. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooHKi5meo6h0mqs
@bencoad84925 жыл бұрын
what were the ice like in the 1930s that was well known to to be much more hotter than now, how about the 1970s which was much colder than now?
@mwhearn15 жыл бұрын
1930s was hotter than average only in the USA. During the same time it was colder than ave here in Australia. The global temperature in the 1930s were significantly lower than today. 1970s was colder because of all the sulphate and nitrate aerosol pollution from burning coal. these aerosols reflect solar radiation back out into space but also dissolve in water to create acid rain. by late 70s governments around the world mandated coal fired power stations remove the aerosols. this is why the 80s saw a huge spike in global temperatures because the cooling effects of the aerosols were no longer there.
@bencoad84925 жыл бұрын
sigh only the USA has had for most of last century had good amount of temperature stations most countries had none or little, there is simply little to no data to back up your claim, and the 1970s dip was causes by the sun spots being the lowest they had been in that century aka it was the sun that caused it, everytime there has been low or no solar sunspots its has been cold on Earth.
@walther71475 жыл бұрын
Look around, there is Not only USA and Australia! In Europe It was also signifikantly warmer in the 30s. And today we have probably more coal burning Even without Filter if you think of China and india.
@bencoad84925 жыл бұрын
yea seems like weather this year and last its opposite usa/euro cold aust warm >_>
@mwhearn15 жыл бұрын
@@walther7147 1930 were not significantly warmer in Australia. Infact it was colder than the 1910s & 1920s. www.bom.gov.au/climate/updates/articles/a004-sep-2012-aug-2013-temperature.shtml
@duncanmckeown12925 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation...extremely informative!
@richjnev705 жыл бұрын
This is a fantsatic new channel, cutting through all the climate denial bs that clogs up you tube. the public need more quality channels on this subjuect up til now it's just been Paul Beckwith educating us on the effects of climate change hallelujah we another. keep up the good work Dave.
@azlittlebear5 жыл бұрын
Paul is a liar he even makes up words that not science thats fear mongering sad for you ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php nothing wrong with the Arctic nothing wrong with Greenland polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/ these are facts based in facts no fear or blame on anyone sad antihumans
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. Thanks for your feedback. Very much appreciated. I will keep going with programmes each week, which I hope will be informative and useful. All the best. Dave
@christinearmington5 жыл бұрын
michael beck Paul Beckwith is not a liar, he is a very fine educator. Baseless slander mongering. Satellite images reveal the steady decrease in sea ice.
@outlierz17965 жыл бұрын
Using the median ice extent or thickness from 1980 or so is flawed. This begins at the start of the warming trend that followed the 70s cooling. Every year should be below the median in a warming period. It's like taking an ice cube out of the freezer, then comparing its current size to the median of size measurements taken at each minute. Why would you do this and pretend it has meaning?
@Lorne.Mccuaig5 жыл бұрын
The reason why 1980 is chosen as a year is because of satellite records. They didn't exist before 1979.
@outlierz17965 жыл бұрын
Yes I know, but this doesn't make the use of the median any more appropriate. @@Lorne.Mccuaig
@Emperor99920015 жыл бұрын
Didn't the artic ice grow more in January 2019 than any other month in the last 50 years?
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Is easy enough to check from the nsidc.org data. Even if it was, though, it wouldn't be massively out of the norm, and it wouldn't mean anything to the long-term trend of decline. That signal is clear, impressive, and hugely significant.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Emperor - you may be thinking about the land based ice sheet? That's coming up in this Sunday's programme.
@patrickchong79845 жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the video the old ice is gone which is the thickest
@patrickchong79845 жыл бұрын
There is new ice growth but it is worthless because it is thinner and just melts
@bigJovialJon5 жыл бұрын
Not from what I've seen. woodfortrees.org/plot/nsidc-seaice-n It looks like it grew 1.7 million square km in January . I see a lot of months when over 2 million square km.
@kirkbrown79165 жыл бұрын
When the north west passage becomes a shipping lane, that will be clear evidence of less ice. Until then, it is just minor fluctuations up and down.
@paulsmith19815 жыл бұрын
If you make your starting date 1979 a record cold year in Iceland then your graph will show rapid warming.
@meeksde5 жыл бұрын
Time 5:09 seems to be saying thicker ice melts slower than thinner ice. I can’t wait to tell all my friends. Continuing lecture.
@ginod22795 жыл бұрын
Loool
@starleyshelton22455 жыл бұрын
Probably true as the underlying ice would pull some heat away from surface ice.
@johnegan65795 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great work
@dalenedaylean35555 жыл бұрын
No one gets the information across like you do 😂 As always, thank you for your work-take care
@enerzise31615 жыл бұрын
Real Science; #1 It is not as warm in this 50,000 year inter-glacial period as some in the past before humans. #2 The Co2 is only about 410 PPM and it at it's known height was 4,000 PPM. 100 times higher. #3 Most of the earths inter-glacial periods melted all earth ice in the oceans during summers. #4 The last two 50,000 Year Warming Peaks were warmer than this current one. #5 Earth Temperature Records have been recorded in the ice core samples taken by humans. This means the human records go back millions and millions of years. It is dishonest to imply humans only have started taking records in recent history. If humans take ice cores from millions of years ago, then records have been made for millions of years. #6 The 50,000 year warming cycle ended around 1998 to 2000 and the current energy is bleeding off for thousands of years and it is possible for the ice to melt off naturally(as it did many times in the past before humans were on earth). Though a 50,000 year glacial period is already started because the earth has passed the closest point it gets to the sun and as you read this, it is moving away from the sun. #6 If anyone looks at all the scientific data from the last several billions of years, they will see the planet is overall cooling. This is why the 50,000 year warming peaks will get progressively weaker. #7 NEVER in the past has the Co2 stopped the earth from cooling back into an ice age over the 50,000 year glacial period cycles. Not even when the Co2 was 1,000 PPM and it is only a measly 410 PPM. #8 If you take the top 4,000 PPM and estimate an average from the known low of 250 PPM during World War II, the current 400+ PPM of Co2 is considered low for earth. LOW, not HIGH. Recap; A. The Co2 is low, not high for 400+ PPM B. This warming is weaker than in the past 50,000 year warming cycles. C. Co2 does not stop the 50,000 year glacial cycles. D. The warming over the last 250 years is part of the 50,000 year inter-glacial cycle. E. No, it is not a threat, it is 100% natural and remember it is weaker. F. Satellite Data does not show the billions of years of KNOWN data on climate cycles. G. The 50,000 year warming cycle ended about 20 year ago. H. A 50,000 year glacial cycle is starting and this is why the earth is experiencing the shifts. I. There could be up to 8,000 years of energy built up in the earth that needs to bleed off. J. The Oceans will not rise from sea ice melting because it is already in the ocean. That glass could be filled with ice and then top it off with water and if all that ice melts, the water will not rise. That is known scientific fact. K. The current climate conditions are not out of the ordinary for a 50,000 year inter-glacial period, at the peak of a warming period, for earth. There have been millions and millions of them that were warmer than this and the Co2 was higher than this. L. The ice sheet was over a mile thick and covered most of Canada and some of the North East states of the USA, back 45,000 years ago. Where is it now? It has been warming for the last 50,000 years,not just 250 as the Science Deniers claim. This is how Real Science is Presented. The video is Cult Religion SKYence teaching. Science Deniers are dishonest and disgusting. Their followers are sad people set up for disappointment.
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
you mean propagandizes like he does? You are so gullible to think this is correct and all facts? OMG.
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@@enerzise3161 Stop making so much sense.. the CLIMATE CHANGE/GLOBAL WARMING Chicken Little Sky is Falling fear mongering types may cry from your posts. Millennial types and brainwashed youth cannot take such facts due to their MAL-education and chronic brainwashing of fake science and pure adulteration of science and facts and REASONING ability over the past 30 yrs concerning this POLITICAL POWER GRAB matter. No telling them otherwise, otherwise they will call you a Fox News Watching Liar... LOL. Stop trying to cure their purely emotional knee jerk sponge brain reactions as this is THEIR religion.. Pure evil intent pushing it through their little brains. Oh, for #6, do not forget the Canada to Siberia crust temperature rise and massive magma flow toward Siberia which causes the degree Celsius dense water buffer layer (stable) to become heated/destabilized, and with currents/upward warm water flow causing ice cap melt being more extensive in summer in Arctic. It does have a massive causative effect.
@jeffgold30912 жыл бұрын
a couple years ago norway’s newest and largest ice breaker had to return to port after damage sustained in an area reported not to have thick ice
@salvadorhardin26445 жыл бұрын
So this will be a bad year in the Arctic? Yeah, right. Today, Arctic ice is at it's highest level in 5 years and very close to the 30 years average. (see DMI) Northern Hemisphere snow is also at record levels, while sun spots are at ZERO. Stop the fear mongering.
@bigJovialJon5 жыл бұрын
When I look at the 30 year trend from DMI, it says we are well below average. ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php If you are referring to their ice thickness model, it only goes back to 2004 (less than 30 years ago).
@rowdydude9575 жыл бұрын
Milankovitch cycles?
@mikeharrington55935 жыл бұрын
Google it, Wikipedia etc
@jamesantolik57345 жыл бұрын
This guy's making stuff up to fit a narrative. History shows us a different record. I believe my eyes not this guy. The DMI has shown growth.
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
I presume you're an avid reader of realclimatescience/Tony Heller. He clearly and obviously cherry-picks and distorts the data. It is so obvious, it is laughable. If anyone is "making stuff up to fit a narrative", it's Tony. The actual data (all of it, not a couple of cherry-picked examples) definitely does not show what you claim. At all.
@buzz38665 жыл бұрын
We do need ground verification that the NOAA measurements of ice thickness are accurate. Thicknesses over 50cm have big errors, but how big is the question. You can’t measure anything from space without having ground validation of what you are really looking at.
@Lorne.Mccuaig5 жыл бұрын
Search David Barber, videos. He's been up there confirming everything here.
@buzz38665 жыл бұрын
Crazyfoxification Will do, thanks.
@sailonx5 жыл бұрын
@@buzz3866 The US military also measures it from below in U-boats using sonar. These more direct measurements are used to calibrate the satellite measurements :)
@tanfoglio15 жыл бұрын
In 1922 the artic was nearly ice free, so it is a false statement to compare it to 1958.
coleorum yes...the good old 70's, when scientists was expecting a new ice age and concidered to spray ash on the arctic ice to try and slow the ice growth? You cannot use this data for prooving anyting, climatic cycles are slow and span over thousands of years. So your link only proves my point to some degree.
@jacdale5 жыл бұрын
@@tanfoglio1 In the 1970's science was 6:1 warming:cooling. The MSM got it really wrong. journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1
@sumhavefun5 жыл бұрын
@@jacdale BS, 1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970) 1970 - Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970) 1970 - New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970) 1970 - Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (Owosso Argus-Press, January 26, 1970) 1970 - Pollution’s 2-way ‘Freeze’ On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970) 1970 - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970) 1970 - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970) 1970 - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970) 1970 - Dirt Will .Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970) 1971 - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (The Montreal Gazette, February 17, 1971 1971 - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971) 1971 - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971) 1971 - New Ice Age Coming - It’s Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971) 1971 - Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971) 1971 - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971) 1972 - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972) 1972 - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972) 1972 - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972) 1972 - British expert on Climate Change says Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972) 1972 - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (Portsmouth Times, September 11, 1972) 1972 - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (Press-Courier, September 11, 1972) 1972 - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972) 1972 - Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, September 12, 1972) 1972 - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972) 1972 - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972) 1972 - Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972) 1973 - The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973) 1973 - Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)
@jacdale5 жыл бұрын
@@sumhavefun What aprt of "The MSM got it really wrong." do you not understand? The MSM got it really wrong.
@ronhenneberry14965 жыл бұрын
At around 13 minute mark you are concerned about the thin summer sea ice. However, with the ice gone from previous years , how can you have multiyear ice? BUT, there appears to be a new layer forming. If it last multiple years, you will again have multiyear ice.
@jamesantolik57345 жыл бұрын
On!y climate scientists feel worried. Real scientist don't worry because of facts that we see with our eyes.
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
With respect to climate science, climate scientists *are* the "real" scientists. That said, there are plenty of "real" non-climate scientists who partially to fully agree with the climate science as presented by said climate scientists. Somehow, I don't think you're being very genuine in your arguments, but.. *shrug*
@johnrooney14255 жыл бұрын
@@ArchaeanDragon Climate scientists are very good at data manipulation because their paycheck totally depends on keeping the lie alive.
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
@@johnrooney1425The exact opposite is true. Their paycheck depends on them being as intellectually honest, accurate, and thorough as they can be. Unless they work for conservative thinktanks or the petroleum industry (after working in the tobacco industry). Then their paycheck doesn't depend on anything other than rubberstamping thoroughly-debunked dogma.
@johnrooney14255 жыл бұрын
@@ArchaeanDragon I believe you are being naive. How many "climate scientists" would receive grant funding studying solar forcing models which could go against the current CO2 climate forcing holy grail? NONE!! They all know this very simple fact so they don"t try because the game is rigged by IPCC and all the BIllions of research dollars. Can you honestly state that current research knows all the solar radiation effects on our planet thermal cycle? Realize that only 0.01 % increase or decrease in total solar radiation would invalidate any climate model. The sun's energy and ALL frequencies of energy transport to the earth is still not fully understood even though all the energy comes from the sun for heating/cooling "climate change". Yet, "climate scientists" state that CO2 is the ONLY reason for any "climate change". Any thinking person realizes this is total nonsense to ignore the lack of understanding of solar forcing for ALL frequencies (x-ray, gamma, etc etc) and then tell everyone to spend Trillions of dollars per year (which most proposals will ultimately cost) says only CO2 levels are to blame for climate change and the solar minimum/maximum have nothing to do with perceived global warming. UV solar forcing used by "climate scientists" is a total joke and shows just how biased the IPPC in ALL climate models. They do not even try to use ionospheric plasma coupling or many other methods of none UV solar radiation/earth energy coupling. A total joke of lazy stupid idiots telling the world how to run things.
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
@@johnrooney1425 >I believe you are being naive. Am I? Well, let's see.. >How many "climate scientists" would receive grant funding studying solar forcing models which could go against the current CO2 climate forcing holy grail? NONE!! The fact is, solar forcing models HAVE been studied, to death. Every climate model worth its salt is tested against all kinds of forcings, including solar. If there was any one which showed a significant correlation signal, we'd know about it. More importantly, those studying it would get all the funding they needed to do so. >They all know this very simple fact so they don"t try because the game is rigged by IPCC and all the BIllions of research dollars. The IPCC has no control over any funding whatsoever. That is controlled by national governments and both public and private institutions. You seem to have a misunderstanding as to how science works. People don't get grants and research dollars for rediscovering the same thing over and over again. They get money for things that upset the applecart of the norm. Yes, I know it doesn't always work out that way, but most of the time, human behavior and capacity for screwing up being what it is, the incidence of its effects in the pursuit of science shows it has the least effect overall. If someone comes along and publishes research which shows that current climate science has it all wrong, and their explanation of the evidence is provably better than what currently exists, they'd be lauded. Nobel Prize material. It may take years or even decades for it to be thoroughly reviewed and tested to the same degree as current theories, but that's what should and does happen. >Can you honestly state that current research knows all the solar radiation effects on our planet thermal cycle? ALL of it? No. Science never assumes it knows ALL of anything. That's what makes the scientific method so powerful. People (scientists) can go back to review things that were previously researched and find new evidence and postulate different or even better theories that fit ALL of the evidence better. They can also improve the methodologies as technology to do so advances, improving the quality and accuracy of the data. There are Nobel Prizes and grants a-plenty for ANY scientist who comes up with better research and explanations for how the world works. That said, the question then becomes "Do we know it well enough?". You (and others) argue that we don't. The thing is, radiation and its effects has been researched by thousands upon thousands of scientists for hundreds of years. I think that we know it well enough to make useful and accurate measurements and postulate theories about its effects upon the natural world, even on the grand scale of the entire planet's energy budget. Is it going to be accurate down to the 20 9s degree? No, but it doesn't have to be, because that level of accuracy isn't necessary to make useful models and predictions. >Realize that only 0.01 % increase or decrease in total solar radiation would invalidate any climate model. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. The 11-year solar cycle causes TSI to vary by 0.1% by itself, and variations in Milankovich cycles can be up to 25% locally over long periods, though global averages are much smaller. Climate models are /specifically designed/ to take into account TSI and observed variations in it, but even the real data doesn't show a correlation signal for values less than what the solar cycle causes for its length. TSI has been measured for decades now, and there is no evidence that it is increasing sufficiently to be a significant contributor to climate change. However, if you have some evidence to the contrary (that you actually understand which is relevant, and not cherry-picked garbage from denier blogs), please do share it. >The sun's energy and ALL frequencies of energy transport to the earth is still not fully understood even though all the energy comes from the sun for heating/cooling "climate change". Nothing is ever "fully" (read: absolutely, 100%) understood. The question is whether or not it is understood "well enough". The research is showing, after many decades now, that is indeed the case. >Yet, "climate scientists" state that CO2 is the ONLY reason for any "climate change". No they don't. They say that GHG (not just CO2, btw) emissions from human activity are the *most likely* cause of the current shift to warmer temperatures. Literally thousands of lines of evidence seem to back it up. No other explanation that has been tested has shown anywhere near as strong a correlation as CO2 and other GHGs. You can't just hand-wave it all away, unless you have some SERIOUS evidence or testable hypothesis to back it up, and you don't. >Any thinking person realizes this is total nonsense to ignore the lack of understanding of solar forcing for ALL frequencies (x-ray, gamma, etc etc) Yet, they *HAVE* been studied, REPEATEDLY. Their effects are understood well enough to know what their effect is on a warming atmosphere. The vast majority of the Earth's heat budget comes from a very small part of the EM spectrum, specifically in the UV and infrared regions. They absolutely dwarf other sources by many orders of magnitude. Variances in those other sources are far too small to contribute significantly to the observed warming. It's a simple matter of physics. >and then tell everyone to spend Trillions of dollars per year (which most proposals will ultimately cost) says only CO2 levels are to blame for climate change Again, NO ONE says CO2 is the "only" source of global warming. It *IS* the most significant contributor, and GHG increases contribute to the vast majority of it. It is the single most effective one we can address, too. Sure, it will cost a lot, but it will also create jobs, contribute to the economy, and we're going to have to do it eventually anyway, because fossil fuels WILL be used up at some point. Might as well get started now, EVEN IF climate change from global warming is all a hoax, as you and other deniers claim, we'll have created a better world for "nothing". >and the solar minimum/maximum have nothing to do with perceived global warming. Solar output has been in minima for quite a number of years now, and solar cycles have been measured for decades. Highs and lows. Yet, the signal shows a consistent and increasing rise in temperature. Variance in solar activity isn't the primary driver of climate change. Period. >UV solar forcing used by "climate scientists" is a total joke and shows just how biased the IPPC in ALL climate models. They do not even try to use ionospheric plasma coupling or many other methods of UV solar radiation/earth energy coupling. Looks pretty well-researched to me: www.hindawi.com/journals/ijge/2011/971302/ - Electrodynamical Coupling of Earth's Atmosphere and Ionosphere: An Overview citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.501.8452&rep=rep1&type=pdf - Coupling from below as a sourceof ionospheric variability: a review agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2012JA018018 - The global thermospheric and ionospheric response to the 2008 minor sudden stratospheric warming event agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2016JA022971 - Ionospheric ion temperature climate and upper atmospheric long-term cooling www.researchgate.net/publication/252326619_Coupling_of_a_Global_Ionosphere-Plasmasphere_Module_to_an_Extended_Global_Atmosphere_Model - Coupling of a Global Ionosphere-Plasmasphere Module to an Extended Global Atmosphere Model ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/RoR_WWW/workshops/2002/presentations/Burns.pdf - Coupling between the thermosphere and the ionosphere and with other regions There's plenty more where those came from, too. I severely doubt you have enough experience or knowledge of the subject on your own for your comments to be a real critique, so I imagine you creatively "borrowed" your opinion from some denier blog, yes? >A total joke of lazy stupid idiots telling the world how to run things. No scientist is "telling the world how to run things". Scientists are telling the world what is going on and why, and what will likely come to pass on our current course. They might make suggestions about what to do about it when asked, but they certainly aren't "telling" us how to run things. That's the government and corporations. You know, the ones with power and money.. and plenty of corruption to go along with it. If scientists had the power you ascribe to them, we'd already be well on the path to a future with minimal impact from climate change. Sounds great to me; maybe we should put them in charge!
@terencefield32045 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation; needed. I use this now alongside the asuper Paul Beckwith and the data from what was Apollo Gaia. There are many very good sources of data - raw - from other websites to develop a good picture of this dreadful reality, hidden from the mass of the populations of the globe. This is a noble effort. Keep at it!
@harrydecker87315 жыл бұрын
Considering that the artic consists of less than one percent of the world's ice, it sounds like you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
@droverholt5 жыл бұрын
and it is sea ice...floating. No big deal.
@willdehne15 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Please keep going.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wilfried. i will indeed. All the best. Dave
@greysilverback39245 жыл бұрын
Gonna be an interesting summer in the Arctic
@lindalannon20395 жыл бұрын
I just found you and subscribed... Thank you for the great video and information.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Linda. Thanks for your feedback. Very much appreciated. Welcome to the channel and many thanks for subscribing. All the best. Dave
@michaelcunningham39875 жыл бұрын
Why do you start you graph in 1979?
@jimmckee22585 жыл бұрын
So as to fit his propaganda my friend.
@starleyshelton22455 жыл бұрын
Simple. Satellite observations became available. Before that it was best guess. However, you must also consider that it was the end of a bottom of a Cooling period going back to the mid 1930 period of high temperatures. So 1979 would have been peak ice from the cooling in the temperature decline from high of heat of the 1930's to the bottom of cold in the 1970's. But his record simply is from the bottom to the next peak in about 2010.
@bigJovialJon5 жыл бұрын
@@starleyshelton2245 can I ask what source says 1979 was peak-ice in the Arctic? The data I've found disagrees. nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/sea_ice.html
@starleyshelton22455 жыл бұрын
@@bigJovialJon I notice the graph before 1979 of samples of ice thickness is folded into satellite measurements. That is a no no. Before 1979 was a sample. After 1979 is complete of the entire region. That is like saying the Dow is the entire economy when it is really just a small sample of a few select companies. I am talking a peak of increasing ice reversing to a period of warming and decreasing ice. The Cycle appears to reach each apex of cold or warm about every 35 to 40 years. The warming since the late 1970's and accompanying decrease in sea ice seems not just natural but predictable. Your link appear to agree with me. Ice was at max around the 1970's. Measurements used after 1979 are satellites and pretty much complete and show decrease from the peak of the 1970's as cooling reversed to increased warming. Even the measurement before that of which are averages of samples and not of the entire arctic show increased freezing into the 1970's with decline after a low temperature period ended and heads into a natural warming.
@bigJovialJon5 жыл бұрын
@@starleyshelton2245 who says mixing data from different sources is a "no no"? Do you have any expertise in data analysis? As some who gets paid to work with data from non-homogeneous sources, it happens every day all over the world. It's complicated, and you need to document your assumptions and decisions, but it's an essential cornerstone of science. I disagree with your claim that 1970 (1969?) and 1979 are essentially the same when you are talking about 1930 to 1979. More importantly, you still haven't cited any evidence to back up you claim that Arctic ice levels in the 1930s we're similar to today. Here's more evidence that says otherwise media.nature.com/original/nature-assets/nature/journal/v479/n7374/extref/nature10581-s1.pdf From this paper: www.nature.com/articles/nature10581 If you can cite some better sources, I would love to see them.
@acxezknightnite13775 жыл бұрын
Bering sea ice is the lowest it’s been since 1850....so, it was lower in 1850? What caused that?
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
1850 is, I believe, when they first started measuring the ice, so it may have been more accurate to say "since records began" Here's a link oceanservice.noaa.gov/news/mar14/alaska-sea-ice.html
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
before I watch your video, I HOPE you do mention the massive sub-crust magma movement from Canada area toward Siberia, causing the Arctic ocean floor to be heated... and thus heating the waters with deep water currents caused. This is not some man made event... blame cosmic ray energy input and including the SUN.... and NOT the Ultra Violet content only. I see at 3:00, they fail to mention Earth core warming effects and other cosmic ray energy inputs. Sad but this is an incomplete discussion. Man Made Global Warming/Climate Change advocates ALWAYS conveniently fail to be totally honest.
@-LightningRod-5 жыл бұрын
Google "sub-rust magma movement" tell me that this is a likely candidate for the reason that Flat Earth is real. It's a free country and you are allowed to believe what you want to. However when it comes to LIFE or DEATH scenario's that are being played out right now, Your "honesty and Intelligence" are questionable. I will NOT comment further on your moral dilemma. Will full ignorance is a trait to be ignored at my own peril. Wake up and get ready
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@@-LightningRod- Sorry I caused pain to your pea-brain... I typed so fast the "C" was left out....OK with you spellchecker idiot?...oh what will dupes like you do when you realize (or admit) to the false, incomplete and "directed" "Models" used by bogu$ climate change $cientists. Now go do some homework. And realize this MMGW shit and now MMCC shit is just long term globalist political types using this to fool the masses and cause control of them through subjugation. Money and research money with pre-set directives/goal are not only corrupt, but an evil errand. Paid-for scientists doing such are evil... and not scientific. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIrSgJaXpqitrtE
@3rdrock5 жыл бұрын
@@yousurf374 What are you going on about ? It's pretty obvious to anyone of at least average intelligence that all the lying scientists and evil money are part of the fossil fuel industry. Let me guess, you're a christian and you love Trump ?
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@@3rdrock no... THE LYING scientists leave out x-rays, sun effects are attributed to man and also leave out cosmic effects on the Earths Core and more. I have been telling fools all this shit for over a decade or two... now THE LINK I provided spells it out quite well for you idiots who LOVE fake MMGW junk-science and does it much better than I would waste time on your ilk... BUT he still does leave out two major aspects of natural long-cycle and short event causation. Too deep for sheeple like you. Now go subjugate yourself to God Obama... LOL
@yousurf3745 жыл бұрын
@World Coming Down 5778 do not worry... we shall survive... short of a massive asteroid strike.
@mjpucher5 жыл бұрын
Changes in ice volume at the poles and in land-based glaciers over time are a normal effect of cyclical changes in climate. No one can dispute that. The theory that human made CO2 is the cause of it lacks any kind of proof if you are serious about science. There are just two models. One calculates the global temperature anomaly (HADCRUT4) and the other (35 of them) calculate a climate response to greenhouse gases. None of these models correlate with real measured temperatures. The hottest year on record is when the calculated anomaly is 0,05 degrees warmer. When that does not work they call it the hottest decade meaning they average out temperatures even more. But all this information does not prove in any way that the change that we see now is in any way going to be a catastrophic change. It is proven that GREENland was much warmer in the middle ages and the climate did not catastrophically collapse. The climate models all use a guess of water vapour feedback forcing that is not observed. They constantly have to adjust the parameters for areosols and have no clue how they influence the climate. The human emissions of CO2 have risen dramatically but the rise in global CO2 every year is completely steady. This proves that the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is not proportional to human emissions and therefore not causal for temperature change. The Bern model simply assumes that human made CO2 will stay in the atmosphere for 200 years while the C14 measurements prove it is for sure less than 20 years. So the proposed accumulation of human CO2 is simply nonsense. The effect of the Milankovich cycles in solar radiation is in the range of 100W while CO2 can be at most 3W. The Milankovich cycles correlate perfectly with the speed of change in ice mass. The temperature changes over thousand of years correlate closely in the Fourier analysis with the cycles of the planetary motions of the largest planets that cause a change in the suns internal plasma flows and as such the suns radiative energy. All that has to be taken into account and clarified before we start to kill our energy production and thus our prosperity. Everyone knows that humans will not manage to reduce CO2 in any effective way as long as the population grows. So now they talk about humans having to stop to have children. And the Western youth has been indoctrinated to believe that. The rest of the World does not know and does not care. So what will be the consequence of CO2 reduction in the West???
@JohnSmith-ci2vu5 жыл бұрын
Could it be the sun?
@proudhon1005 жыл бұрын
No. Solar output varies too little. Even in the deeepest maunder minimum, solar output varies by no more than 1/400th, or 0.025%.
@JohnSmith-ci2vu5 жыл бұрын
Donald McCarthy Just asking. No need for abuse! Why don’t you go back to digging your doomsday bunker asshole!!
@JohnSmith-ci2vu5 жыл бұрын
proudhon100 . Thanks for the reply mate 👍
@ArchaeanDragon5 жыл бұрын
Oh, it most definitely is the sun as the ultimate cause of warming, but I don't think that is what you are asking. Is there some variance in the sun that is a significant cause of the current warming? No. It's been studied for decades, and there is no correlation with solar output and the current situation of climate change due to global warming of any significance.
@JohnSmith-ci2vu5 жыл бұрын
@@ArchaeanDragon Cheers mate. Looking at both sides of the argument before form an opinion.
@WyattMullin5 жыл бұрын
Great video. So what's the likelihood of a blue ocean event this year (2019)? 50% chance?
@kymvanderkaag14745 жыл бұрын
LoL!
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Wyatt. I tend to steer towards the view of Professor Peter Wadhams, with whom I had a quite comprehensive conversation across four programmes back in November of last year. Peter spent decades in the arctic measuring the decline of ice. His view is that a blue ocean event will most likely not happen this year, but is very possible indeed before 2030.
@kymvanderkaag14745 жыл бұрын
@@JustHaveaThink It's always another 10 years away which is the standard response; an elusive event that never seems to happen.
@jimwilson48765 жыл бұрын
its mother nature's world, always was & always will be. ADAPT
@BlahBlooBlee42055 жыл бұрын
That sea ice thickness difference between 2017 and 2018 says it all; GG
@BlahBlooBlee42055 жыл бұрын
@@skydivekrazy76 Do you know nothing about Arctic Amplification? It's been changing dramatically on a scale of years since the late 80's/early 90's; not thousands of years lol. Save the ad hominem attacks for when ur actually right about something ya dingus.
@randyrapaport28064 жыл бұрын
It sure looks like a blue ocean event is gonna happen this decade.
@TheGodlessGuitarist5 жыл бұрын
Great digest. Subbed.
@howardpearson62815 жыл бұрын
Great work Thank you for your time and effect
@jk352603 жыл бұрын
Here is the "good news". Latent heat of vaporisation is 2260kJ/kg. That is 6.8 times more energy required than latent heat of fusion. So evaporation will help slow down the rate of heating at the surface. But that is going to cause air to be more humid which will condense once it reaches the higher atmosphere. That also means the upper atmosphere will heat up faster than any other region. Mountain glacier especially those at the Himalayas as rate of melting will increase due to an increasingly warmer atmosphere. Other effect includes more severe storm, flood and hurricanes.
@wlhgmk5 жыл бұрын
This is a rare instance in which mixing in old imperial measurements make it easier to follow that using SI units. By definition the heat to raise the temperature of one gram of ice by one degree is one calorie (small 'c'). So the heat to melt a gram of ice is 79 calories or as he said the same heat as it would take to heat that water up to scalding. Now here is the real kicker. The heat to evaporate that gram of water is enough to raise it 5 times from zero to 100 degrees C and then, in addition, from freezing to 40 degrees C. Think of the implications of this.
@MiniLuv-19845 жыл бұрын
Thanks, excellent info, well presented as usual. I was blown away by the fact of the latent heat of fusion, were it be used to heat liquid water from 0oC would raise its temperature to 79oC. I knew of the effect, but had no idea of the scale. I wonder if you could also do a similar flip-side report - the state of the Antarctic sea ice?
@batzing5 жыл бұрын
The problem is the lack of long term data. 150 years makes it statistically impossible to derive conclusions from this short term pattern. We also have historical sources that document transits between coasts in summer as early as 1904 (and older). This indicates open water in the arctic in the near past.
@davecan11035 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. Moreover I would really like to see a detailed analysis showing what effect would there be on naturally occurring climate change if every single provision of the Paris Accord were met by every nation. What you say is very true though, the extent to which CO2 is affecting the course of naturally occurring climate change is vastly exaggerated in the current climate models which has been shown to be true by the very scientists that created this model in the first place. I sincerely have my doubts that currently existing climate models are close to being any kind of valid or proven working predictive model. It's a start but I think there's many many years to go before we have a really truly robust model of our climate system. Of course we all know that Greenland used to be completely ice-free, and it will one day again be ice-free. Naturally occurring climate change is not in any way completely understood, the role of CO2 in anthropogenic warming is vastly exaggerated in the currently existing models. I would be much more interested in seeing studies of the model itself such a sensitivity analysis and predictive accuracy, rather than a bunch of data about melting ice caps that simply presumes that it is man-made inputs that are causing it. This video merely shows what is happening in the current state of climate change, but by no means does it show any correlation whatsoever between man-made CO2 production and climate change. Perhaps for the more scientifically educated folks I'm much more interesting and valid discussion would be centered on the models themselves, their validity, the data that was used to derive the models, their predictive accuracy, and the remaining factors that do not even get accounted for in the current sparsely derived climate models from very limited data. I realize that many may find this boring and prefer to just automatically believe that man is making the ice caps melt, but more time spent on discussing the climate model and how we can improve it would be much more productive in my opinion
@alexjackson18635 жыл бұрын
@@davecan1103 You can already observe how bad a predictor the climate models are. Just take the early IPCC arctic ice predictions and compare it to actual arctic ice. The models vastly UNDERSTATE the actual ice loss. This is because the models do not take into account the albedo effect (loss of), methane releases, water vapour etc etc. The IPCC mainly focused on CO2 and did not include other warming positive feedbacks. In essence the IPCC vastly understates global warming, that is why their prenouncements are coming out more frequently with more dire implications. The IPCC is playing catch up with reality.
@batzing5 жыл бұрын
@@alexjackson1863 In 2018 we saw an increase in Arctic sea ice. This year is colder so we expect even more growth. Regardless evidence exists that suggests this may be a natural cycle unrelated to global warming. Hard to make a call due to small data set. We've only been tracking it a short time. Keep in mind CO2 emissions have been steadily increasing since the mid 1940's. Yet we are seeing a cooling period. The Alarm in this case is very likely unwarranted.
@HushemFlupskluk5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the arctic sea ice volume is well within the 2004 - 2013 median polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/sea/CICE_curve_thick_LA_EN_20190314.png and the sea ice extent is getting into the 1981 - 2000 median polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/sea/SICE_curve_extent_LA_EN_20190313.png
@bigJovialJon5 жыл бұрын
When I look at the ice volume graph, the first thing that I notice is that it has been below average almost all of the several years, and the ice extent graph has been below two standard deviations almost all of the last several years. Neither of these are good. The latter is like your kid's teacher saying, "If they work *really hard* the could get get their grade up to a D." The DMI's trend graph makes it pretty clear that we are well below historical values. ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover_30y.uk.php
@OldScientist Жыл бұрын
This isn't aging well. NOAA (2022 Arctic Report Card) show winter (March) ice coverage has hardly changed since '79, and the summer (September) coverage trend had stopped declining since 2007. In September 2022, sea ice reached a minimum extent of 4.87 million square kilometers in the Arctic. This is higher than the extent in 2007, which means the Arctic summer sea ice trend is zero for the past 16 years. It was almost as high as 1995. Summer 2023 is one of the coldest in several decades, and May 2023 was the coldest on record in the Arctic.
@ggg148g5 жыл бұрын
"Just have a think", thank you very much for your great work. While it's great to speak with open people that have a radically different opinion on controversial issues, the kind of quarreling of the kind I see plentiful in this section, is a waste of time. If nobody is learning anything in a conversation, then quit it.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Giancarlo. Thanks for your feedback. I haven't noticed the quarrelling to be honest. I don't actually bother to read the comments from the industry sponsored deniers. They are pointless, and I haven't got the time or the interest. I hope you continue to enjoy the videos anyway. All the best. Dave
@ggg148g5 жыл бұрын
@@JustHaveaThink , I thought it could help to warn people that are tempted by these useless arguments and then get "sucked" by them. It happened to me so many times ... until I learned (I hope). You bet I will enjoy all of your videos!! Keep up with your remarkable job.
@Bananananamann5 жыл бұрын
Hey. How do you stay positive? Any tips?
@dnboro5 жыл бұрын
Great question. The more you know about feedbacks and consequences, the more depressing it is. But knowing that we actually have lots of solutions and they have good ROI may help... www.drawdown.org/
@owlnationlegal42285 жыл бұрын
Simple. I ran for President since I have designed national infrastructure plans and have the only practical plan for getting us out of this mess. It's a long shot but I have nothing to lose. Neither do you since there isn't a presidential candidate in the field who really has a clue about how horrific the near-term future is today.
@owlnationlegal42285 жыл бұрын
Mead2020 (0rg) in 2020 if you want to see 2024 ... helluva slogan
@cbgregoire95 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Just want to acknowledge what an amazing job you’ve been doing on these videos to educate the public about the various facets of the Climate crisis. I also wanted to let you know I’m a volunteer with Scientistswarning.org working on the website and we essentially are doing a similar project but in the form of a wiki where we cover many of the same topics. It’d be great to get a chance to chat with you about what we’re each doing and see if we can help each other in some way. Let me if you’re interested. Regards, Charles.
@annemarieroth1955 жыл бұрын
Great video? I would like to know what the correlation between the movement of the magnetic north and south poles have on the ice fields and climate change.
@brucewilliams21065 жыл бұрын
imperceptible.
@terenceiutzi40033 жыл бұрын
And yet the Arctic ice sheets are growing! The first ship to try to cross the north west passage is still frozen in the ice after 200 years and 5 years ago they took special laser drilling equipment to remove seal pelts and a case of scotch that were left there 200 years ago and were buried under 100 feet of ice,
@chrysalicechristopheranderson5 жыл бұрын
Any point in making the following suggestion? Use Graphene, Graphene Nanotubes and Aerogel made in a vaccuum. Build billions of billions of (billions of...) micro sunlight-reflecting umbrellas (say, sub-mm). Each has top surface near-flat to reflect, a weighted handle to make the top stay floating horizontally and the say 45deg cone body filled with the Aerogel, sealed with low pressure air (maybe all GHG filtered out...) so each "sunbrella" has a very accurate overall density to float up to a set altitude when/where released. These would be released from Spring through Fall/Autumn around the shores of the Arctic Ocean whenever the winds are northerly. Someone-else can decide the best altitude for these, but airplanes should survive flying through these things but should avoid doing so... Objective is of course to shield the Arctic to halt temperature rise there, to halt melting of permafrost and heating of the Arctic seabed to prevent tripping any mass-release of GHG there - while we buy time to wind back the upper atmosphere GHG concentrations to pre-1960 levels ( or lower...). Might work, eh...
@fightapathy4165 жыл бұрын
Where's the NOAA study on stratospheric aerosol injection and it's effects on global climate?
@axeman26385 жыл бұрын
SSShhhh , your tin foil hat is showing.
@timmyterd83545 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that very informative video. I have been pondering on the climate lately as I grow my own organic food . I never use chemicals and encourage beneficial predators such as ladybirds lace wings hover flies predatory spider mite and parasitic wasps, to control the pests such as greenfly,thrifts, 2spoted spider mite, caterpillars etc .So I'm extremely use to stepping outside and spotting a insect in seconds. But that is not the case this year. They have all vanished. I can honestly say I have knot seen one ladybird, lace wings or parasitic wasps all summer (I am in the southern hemisphere 11 march 2019 ) even the porch light has no moths beetles or lacewings.I real fear this is knot looking good.
@JustHaveaThink5 жыл бұрын
Hi Timmy. Your hands on experience chimes quite well with the conclusions in the report I looked at last week from the Institute of Public Policy Research here in the UK. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3uqn4x3n7prhbs Not a very optimistic picture for insects I'm afraid. And of course that has the inevitable knock-on effect for all species, including us.
@dennismitchell52765 жыл бұрын
Same here in North America. I’m surrounded by farm fields, but have not seen any butterflies. Just a few years ago I had to scrape dead bugs of my truck windows. Not any longer. Hate to think what it will be like in ten more years.