New Incredible Findings 3 Years After Tonga Volcano Explosion

[@keithscoles3000]

I was in Tonga during the eruption and was watching when the explosions came through the noise was immense and pressure wave from it you could feel on your face...

[@johnfreeborn979]

My friends who live on a hillside at Kaikoura on the north east side of the South Island of NZ, heard that explosion and their windows got a good shaking.

[@SiberCatLP]

Stuff like this most recent paper remids me why improving sensors and logging data are so important. New brains keep looking at it and finding new stuff for a long time to come.

[@JasonKing-m6m]

The alarmists ignored this and kept quiet and blamed the volcanic atmospheric effects on "climate change".....

[@supertornadogun1690]

it's very hard to have too much data

[@malcolmyoung7866]

It helps if those sensors are actually watching a specific volcano at a specific time too. BTW.. not just ‘new’ brains are out there crackin this stuff.

[@AxoiTanner]

⁠@@JasonKing-m6mbut… it is climate change. previous volcanos didn’t have such effect, so blaming vulcanos doesn’t make sense.

[@valcurtis5572]

We had unusually heavy rain for months after in New Zealand

[@johncheresna]

Yet the C02 agenda are covering up the largest climatic event in 200 years, in order to push the C02 agenda. I am not a climate denier, but I do not follow agendas. Adding over 10% moisture to the world in a matter of weeks, has to have an effect! Meant will all respect to Anton!

[@mattrolfs8951]

Yep. Weird in Aus as well.

[@DMack6464]

It wouldn't stop raining for like 2 weeks a couple times

[@ryanj9364]

Males you wonder if all the crazy floods in odd locations around the planet the last 3 years might be an aftereffect of all the water blasted into the upper atmosphere. Males more sense than cow farts.

[@lauroralei]

Yeah they're pretty sure it dialled up all the weather systems in western pacific to 11 for months when that stratospheric water vapour moved in a big lump down to Antarctica. The circulating polar winds stayed tightened up instead of expanding out, so a lot more tropical moisture came south

[@Shacthulhu]

Brilliant upload, Anton! You set the bar, and you keep it there.

[@NowFail205]

The rain in New Zealand was unusually heavy for months after-something we hadn’t seen in years.

[@adammillwardart7831]

Nonsense, that was because of idiots who insist climate change isn't largely due to their own selfish habits.

[@NanaWilson-px9ij]

The lightning produced is phenomenal. Wow!

[@deborahferguson1163]

Would have been cool to see…..or terrifying!

[@andrewn7365]

I wonder how we collect that data. My guess is satellites detecting light flashes? Whatever it is I bet it'll be cool to learn about.

[@SacredOwl]

I believe it's a natural nuclear explosion; the belief that a volcano is from pressure is so ridiculous, almost as bad as the belief that our oceans came from meteors... this was bigger than Washington and Oregon put together, the EMP and lightning says it all.

[@robguyatt9602]

@@andrewn7365 As I understand it, lightening produces radio waves. Don't ask what frequency though LOL. There are thousands of sensors around the world that detect these frequencies and by triangulation, the location is determined. Cool stuff.

[@thatampguy]

It’s a dry heat

[@danoblue]

Very interesting video. I live in Peru, a country with both active volcanos and many earthquakes, so these discoveries are of particular interest to me.

[@ausnorman8050]

Live in Tasmania Australia, heard the boom and we are 1000's of km's away!

[@WillArtie]

did you really? I'm in Sydney and if you heard it maybe we could have, but the inner-city has such a large background signal with engines and construction booms/bangs, not to mention constant aircraft noise (and my house is under the flight path!) - there would have been little chance differentiating it.

[@mindripperful]

Same in auckland nz

[@FOSS-For-All]

i heard it in South East Queensland, Australia. i thought it was a bomb until i saw Antons video

[@ausnorman8050]

@@WillArtie It was late afternoon heard the 'boooommm' low rumble for 15secs after that. Had no idea until next day when GeologyHub posted a video lol

[@malcolmyoung7866]

Alaska too..

[@URBANGALLERY.PHOTOGRAPHY]

Anton is amazing thank you for your hard work and inspiration ❤

[@ComaDave]

This was coupled with an extended La Nina and produced a large increase in rainfall across most of Australia.

[@vumba1331]

You dump that much extra moisture into the atmosphere without expecting it to then fall as rain before once again achieving balance, unrealistic expectation.

[@lauroralei]

@@vumba1331 the water vapour went into the stratosphere, it didn't fall as rain, but it did have some effects on local weather systems that very likely exacerbated existing la nina conditions

[@vumba1331]

@lauroralei Very likely? Record floods in New Zealand, roads, bridges and houses washed away, power grid damaged and entire valley filled with vineyards and orchards covered in 1.5 m of silt, you think!

[@richardjackson8221]

Great summary Anton. When you talked about the huge number of lightening strikes during the eruption, the thought occurred to me that this could be a potential source of lightening energy needed billions of years ago, to jump start organic life on earth. Early earth must have had numerous volcanic eruptions and if lightening super events occurred in the vicinity of these eruptions, then perhaps organic life could have been kick started by one or more of these events...

[@ProfessorJayTee]

Current theory points more at undersea hot water vents as the source of first life. Continuous available energy, both thermal and chemical. You're thinking of the old Miller-Urey experiments making organics from inorganics, which is now known to be largely pointless. At the time we were quite wrong, and thought organics were only produced by life. We know KNOW that pre-life Earth would have been covered by organics from fallen asteroids and comets.

[@davidb1933]

Which current theory is this?

[@EdPheil]

Also possible from the thousands of natural nuclear reactors back then as radiation also allows chemical reactions to go both directions, and higher energy input as lightning, but the difference being continuous energy input, instead of intermittent. But, both are viable causes.

[@MyraSeavy]

Way CooL information we're learning from this event! Thanks Anton! ✨️

[@zachwilson768]

Total ecological destruction underwater. Not surprising but still chilling.

[@psynurse]

Yes as if it's been occurring for 1000s of years

[@AH-lw2bj]

It will come back stronger than ever... Just look up pictures of Mount St Helen's from after eruption to now, quite remarkable what nature can do

[@ericmaclaurin8525]

​@@AH-lw2bjI wonder of any of the animals that died would have cared.

[@AH-lw2bj]

@@ericmaclaurin8525 i don't know, does a mouse care when it gets snatched by an eagle?

[@RodneyGraves]

We heard/felt the shockwave here in South Georgia and had no idea what it was until we saw your video about the shockwave.

[@WynnofThule]

"Tonga" just rolls off the tongue so well

[@mylaughinghog]

Bulbous bouffant, macadamia, gazebo

[@mylaughinghog]

Galoshes, blubber, beluga

[@WynnofThule]

@@mylaughinghog Macadamia? Ain't that where Alexander the Great is from?

[@artor9175]

Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai is a bit of a mouthful though.

[@weswarren5987]

I woke up at about 3:30 in the morning to pee camping in Ketchikan AK and I heard this volcano. Got into the coffee shop at 6:00 and it was all over Facebook

[@psynurse]

What a beautiful area

[@weswarren5987]

@ indeed, I spent almost four years there

[@derd3]

What did it sound like? What sound would you compare it to?

[@weswarren5987]

@ I thought a large fishing boat fell off of hanging straps as they’ll pull boats out and clean underneath. They use huge lifts and massive straps. Also reminded me of a pallet of plywood falling flat, I was confused and looking down near the water for lights but no one was awake and no lights were on.

[@Nefville]

@@weswarren5987 I stock at Costco, I am _intimately_ familiar with wood pallets falling flat on the ground. Now I know what Tonga sounded like, interesting. Good analogy.

[@jimcurtis9052]

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙂

[@thejollysatan]

The stratospheric water vapour content dramatically increased after the eruption. This area is typically very dry. It had an impact on temperature. There are papers that talk to this but of course that's not a popular topic.

[@PavelDatsyuk-ui4qv]

It's sp frustrating lol, but not surprising

[@finwefingolfin7113]

anything not anthropogenic is strictly verboten!

[@117simracing8]

Laughable troll parade above. There are dozens of scientific papers and loads of books who deal with the effects of volcanic eruptions on climate. Now put ur head underground again.

[@desmcharris]

Thank you Anton for this new information. We here in Lismore NSW had a flood , that resulted in the largest natural disaster in modern Australian history. 14 m + water level's through the CBD and surrounding districts. Landslides, lost of at least 10,000 homes and businesses. All linked to a rain bomb associated with the eruption.

[@lesbendo6363]

A lot of "I never knew" facts. Thank you! 👍👍🇨🇦

[@wilcofaber9863]

Very nice video Anton!

[@Snoopyzell]

Great follow-up. Thanks

[@annaczgli2983]

Thanks, Anton. This looks interesting.

[@samyouel4596]

we had the worst flooding and rain in Australia after that eruption

[@SirBoden]

Hello wonderful Anton 🙂

[@neverlistentome]

I see you slipped a shot of Yavin 4 in @ 4:12...

[@phillyskyguy9535]

I instantly noticed too lol

[@davidc5191]

Or this could be the Mayan Highlands.

[@coyotej4895]

Humm What this seismic detection brings to mind for me is the bay off of Naples. Whare that caldera (Campi Flegrei caldera), is under the Mediterranean. If that cracks it will launch that entire city in to orbit.

[@heinzwerner]

Jes, Your right decision to summarize actual findouts now.Very interesting and well reported 🙂

[@MCsCreations]

Fascinating!

[@arealassassin]

Queensland, Australia. Did it affect the climate here? Hell, yea it did! '23-'24; monsoonal downpours as far south as Brisbane, we had a rain event that lasted for 3 days straight- non stop! Now, even 3 years later, that moisture is still coming back down.

[@quackyduck1499]

Here on the sunny coast, the red dawns didn't happen for at least a year. Everything was kind of whitewashed at dawn. 1980 was our biggest year for rain with an 800 mm average. Now or as of last year, 510 mm. 1920. 375 mm. Makes me think that dust that is the nuclei of a raindrop is co2. And the earth is a lot smarter than science. And self regulating.

[@deevnn]

Quackers…”a lot smarter than science” you make me laugh and laugh. You know nothing.

[@LiamRedmill]

Fascinating smoke stack colonisation,thanks

[@Spotcats]

Don't feel like 3 years. It feels like that eruption happened just a few months ago. Time is goin so fast.

[@Damacles9]

I heard it in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. I thought there was a bad accident within 50 yards of my house that I physically ran outside to look for the "accident". I was stunned when there was nothing there and wondered how I heard something so loud.

[@AH-lw2bj]

I don't think so

[@dougg1075]

No, the heat waves were caused by my 1995 Chevrolet Silverado

[@AH-lw2bj]

More likely global air travel but you're 95 truck helped 😂

[@idiotidiot5821]

3000+ nuclear tests. Blame the layman and his gas stove and mower. Logiccccc

[@Vernon-gn9wb]

And the damage caused to the ocean floor by that reliable old truck was because of the gross negligence of oil companies, despite what they say about caring about people and the environment.

[@malcolmyoung7866]

More than likely… :-)

[@malcolmyoung7866]

I think the immediate effects of the HTH eruption put the oil and gas industry to shame.

[@SixtySixHundred-1982]

Every time I watch one of your videos, I learn something. And you call me wonderful! 👍

[@paulmicks7097]

Thank you Anton , always a great topic , geology tells the story

[@erinmac4750]

Hunga Tonga Hunga A'pai was an amazing eruption on so many levels. One day I'm going to make a collection of all the different papers for my own library. Until then I can count on you to keep us updated on the latest fascinating discoveries. 💜👋

[@kx4532]

That lightning is pretty dangerous in the middle of that huge explosion.

[@ericmaclaurin8525]

😂 Pyroclastic flows laugh at lightning.

[@Vinkabbeats]

I found a giant bit of pumice in nz that floated over from the volcano

[@antonj9209]

The tropical regions often produce outstanding lighting and thunder, but what you have described Anton is completely "NUTS ", always well presented and explained thankyou

[@petepanteraman]

1:44 those lightning strikes must have been traveling through the saltwater, man I'd be happy to get a sample to see if it split atoms or some indication of electralysis, since the ash would have also been in contact with the saltwater.

[@tonynagy2042]

This was really lucky to be caught from Space. I'm sure there are plenty of undersea volcanos erupting we don't see, here and there, that we don't see. Cheers Anton. Always a 👍.

[@JSTRM4N]

Lightening is interesting to me, it's a deadly beautiful phenomena. By chance could you do a vid on the subject sometime in the future?

[@erinmac4750]

Pecos Hank did an excellent explainer you might want to check out.

[@yvonnemiezis5199]

Great video ,l really enjoyed it,thanks Anton👍❤

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

It's Tonga time! Anton: Tonga time was 3 years ago. Me: ...oh. That's been awhile. Man. Where does the time go?

[@johnebuckle]

Something is not right here. While CO2 contributes 12% to effective greenhouse gases water vapor contributes 70% of effective green house gases. So a 10 % increase in water vapor would mean a 7% increase in effective greenhouse gases which more than have that of all the CO2 contribution. So how is it possible that the warming effect was so minimal?

[@AH-lw2bj]

Maybe because the greenhouse gas effect is being overstated to impose a new world order??

[@Terran.Marine.2]

Amateur Opinion? Phase change of H2O and lack of phase change in gaseous CO2.

[@WillArtie]

hmmm yeah - I'd like to know that as well. And 10% increase in world-wide H2O from a single event - that's huge. Wonder if that's 10% for like a few hours but then drops off quickly due to precipitation. Maybe you need a permanent or at least extended period 10% to have the full effect. It has to be something like that otherwise the values are way off.

[@AH-lw2bj]

@@johnebuckle maybe the greenhouse gas effect is being overstated to sell us things

[@WillArtie]

​@@Terran.Marine.2I replied to you but misread your comment completely!! My apologies for what I hope you didn't get to read!

[@gregknipe8772]

fascinating. thank you.

[@SBImNotWritingMyNameHere]

Goddamnit man I thought i was first but the P bots spammed even earlier

[@mrdwets8952]

At the very least they are easy to detect.

[@andycordy5190]

So much to learn here. More on the lightning / plasma thing please, Anton.

[@Stubbies2003]

Well much like Chernobyl liquid water flashing to steam expands very fast and takes up a ton more room than the liquid water it started as does. The magma was the trigger to this explosion. A good portion of the power of this eruption was just water flashing to steam.

[@kryptoknightkid]

Absolutely fascinating information I'll have to look up the rest of the videos and get the lowdown on the rest of it

[@MikkellTheImmortal]

I've been patiently waiting for this video. I wasn't sure what long term effect it would have on the planet but I wasn't expecting nothing.

[@andrewdavis6012]

in Perth Australia it rained every time a cloud crossed the coast for 18months and a grey stain was left when it dried

[@johndavis6119]

Good stuff here Anton. Thanks.

[@bijenkoningin_]

…fascinating updates. The number of lightning strikes was unexpected.

[@johannageisel5390]

0:15 On that violet simulation of whatever (clouds???) you can see the circular eruption, but there is also another circle, seemingly emerging at the same time. It's right of the eruption. Does anybody know what that is?

[@LoganPEade]

I see it, looks like another eruption miles away doesn't it? I wonder if it's an artifact from combining separate images of the Tonga event?

[@johannageisel5390]

@@LoganPEade RIGHT? I was also thinking of another eruption first, but that would be THOUSANDS of miles. And would be a weird coincidence. Then I thought of a kind of echo or, as you say, an artifact. I really want to know what it actually is.

[@LoganPEade]

@johannageisel5390 Indeed, I wish I knew how to find out exactly but I'm at a loss for now 🤗!

[@willythemailboy2]

@@johannageisel5390 There were several other active volcanoes erupting along the west coast of South America. It could have been a less violent eruption in Chile or something.

[@erinmac4750]

I believe there was a least one intense tropical storm in the vicinity. If you're into the deep dive, I would try to find satellite data for the eruption that lines up with view. If I remember correctly, at least one storm seemed to intensify when the energy of the eruption hit it. There was so much energy released in the ocean and atmosphere with this eruption.

[@MihzvolWuriar]

This eruption is becoming the 2nd Soufriere Hills, where many discoveries were made, and possibly, more lives will be saved in the future because of them.

[@charlesstockings663]

I'm from Australia and you can still see the haze in the air from the eruption coursing red sunsets and sunrises. the summers here have been slightly colder and wetter since the eruption. maybe the heating affect you were speaking of may start to take affect after the haze causing particles have settled down.

[@filmbuffo5616]

the rayleigh wave may be what animals sense when they react before an earthquake happens

[@Isaac-gh5ku]

From Malaysia here, I remembered that there was a sound of thunder when that happened. Not a loud one. Oddly for me, the sky was bright and clear, and no thick rain cloud covering it. Not knowing there was a volcanic eruption of the Tonga volcano happened many miles away.

[@thatampguy]

The footage of the blast was fascinating and terrifying.

[@Spasiboy]

ANTON'S THE MAN!

[@leonardgibney2997]

Central Scotland was hit by an electrical storm in July 1961. 2600 lightning strikes a second in that one if you ask me. 200 years of statically charged industrial pollution in that one. It lasted 30 hours.

[@serversurfer6169]

1:48 That shockwave is crazy. 😲

[@The1redman2]

What about all the extra rain the week have gotten out of that eruption

[@johnnash5118]

Geologically speaking, how common is the Tonga-type eruption? Oregon has an oceanic volcano off its coast Wiki: "Axial Seamount (also Coaxial Seamount or Axial Volcano) is a seamount, submarine volcano, and underwater shield volcano in the Pacific Ocean, located on the Juan de Fuca Ridge, approximately 480 km (298 mi) west of Cannon Beach, Oregon. Standing 1,100 m (3,609 ft) high, Axial Seamount is the youngest volcano and current eruptive center of the Cobb-Eickelberg Seamount chain. Located at the center of both a geological hotspot and a mid-ocean ridge, the seamount is geologically complex, and its origins are still poorly understood. Axial Seamount is set on a long, low-lying plateau, with two large rift zones trending 50 km (31 mi) to the northeast and southwest of its center. The volcano features an unusual rectangular caldera, and its flanks are pockmarked by fissures, vents, sheet flows, and pit craters up to 100 m (328 ft) deep; its geology is further complicated by its intersection with several smaller seamounts surrounding it. Axial Seamount was first detected in the 1970s by satellite altimetry, and mapped and explored by Pisces IV, DSV Alvin, and others through the 1980s. A large package of sensors was dropped on the seamount through 1992, and the New Millennium Observatory was established on its flanks in 1996. Axial Seamount received significant scientific attention following the seismic detection of a submarine eruption at the volcano in January 1998, the first time a submarine eruption had been detected and followed in situ. Subsequent cruises and analysis showed that the volcano had generated lava flows up to 13 m (43 ft) thick, and the total eruptive volume was found to be 0.018-0.076 km3 (0.0043-0.0182 cu mi). Axial Seamount erupted again in April 2011, producing a mile-wide lava flow. There was another eruption in 2015 and another is expected in 2025."

[@CagedInSilence]

I have to order kava through new suppliers since this eruption. I hope they are able to recover.

[@dannyobrian5957]

I wonder how life under the sea is now and how fast it come back

[@Berg-ft5xb]

I wonder if I get a Ig Nobel prize for a proposal to send b.e.c antimatter to 🌞 jst to see if it triggers a premature solar flare

[@davidc5191]

Excellent article, but graphic at 4:37 is wrong, showing ozone hole at the North Pole, not Antarctica, and dates are wrong too.

[@svabl4de]

could you please provide links or references to the publications you are talking about? I always have a hard time finding them...

[@miikalewandowski7765]

What is the name of the animation @0:19 ?

[@carolgebert7833]

According to the satellite measurements of UAH, the last three years had a major temperature rise, now dropping. So the volcano may have affected temperatures. Not sure where your data came from. (I suggest ignoring land-based temperature records.)

[@aWitty]

Australia has had 2 unusually bad ski seasons in a row since that volcano erupted.

[@AH-lw2bj]

The sun is at a peak in its activity cycles, so in other words it's pumping out way more heat these last couple of years, I would expect good skiing in about 5 years when the sun is at a low again

[@user-kn4it6zr9o]

Interesting stuff

[@andrewnorgrove6487]

Living in tasmania We have noticed short outings in the sun mean well burnt skin Noticeable Hotter ! even though its been open over the state for years

[@AH-lw2bj]

The sun is also at a peak of its activity cycles so much more radiation is being created by the sun and beaming down to earth

[@busybillyb33]

6:51 "Don't buy real estate on volcanic islands." I guess Hawaii is out of question for Anton.

[@jeffnelson4489]

California coast had coldest yr in a very long time 80 degrees was not seen till July and we only had 1 week of 90 degrees. Winter was long with temps between 40 to 60 . May we finally reached 70 degrees

[@craigroaring]

We got huge amounts of rain in Brisbane Australia after the eruption.

[@mercifulmerc]

Expect to see a new company coming out with 1000s of boats that shoot down missile probe's with long life-times into the sea bed's by volcanic locations to relay early Rayleigh wave signs. Guaranteed. Awsome new advancement that I feel like should've been discovered long ago... This was a slow one. But nonetheless a great discovery

[@russellpurdie]

There is a theory that the water vapour migrated to the south pole causing some cooling in the region and thereby contracting the southern ocean oscillation thereby there was less of an opposing force to la nina in australia hence the higher rainfalls further south. The Indian ocean dipole was also favorable for this at the time.

[@petepanteraman]

6:22 real quick curiosity: has the been studies for bacteria in places like Hawaii? Have they found similar properties or bacteria any where else other than ocean floor vents?

[@Winterfur1]

Too bad he avoided talking about the volcano dramatically affected weather patterns. It didn’t affected temperatures but it did affected weather patterns. Like how 2021 had the most rain for Australia and California. And as of 2024/2025 Pacific Northwest is supposed to be having a La Niña winter but ended up getting a mild winter.

[@mahbriggs]

Because it is unknowable! We can postulate it had an effect, but not what it was! Weather is far to complex!

[@mickrivard8344]

That might be a result of general climate change also

[@Winterfur1]

@@mickrivard8344 you do historically that the earth nearly had glaciers near the equator millions years ago is one of our great die offs to. Also was a lot warmer during the age of the dinosaurs. The earth has ways off changing its own weather patterns that humans can’t control we are just a long for the ride. I would like to point at there was a beach in Australia that people said it would be under water in 100 years. Guess what the beach is still there the water levels hasn’t changed yet. Yes I know we are flooding but the reason why we are flooding in costal areas is because we are affecting the local area that makes flooding worse. Like dredging a coastal river to allow bigger ships to navigate which in effect has more tidal flooding do the increase of water from the deeper river.

[@rongenise7006]

Yep, man made climate change is a hoax. Got it.

[@AH-lw2bj]

​@@mickrivard8344 yes the climate is always changing

[@richardharris8538]

At 6:48, I heard Anton say, "... only lasted for seven years, with the island becoming ziss afterwards." Does anyone know what he was really saying?

[@ryanfulton8421]

I remember it got very windy for just a few seconds that evening.

[@finncog3759]

We had 3 weter than normal years and 3 cooler summers here in the south eastern part of Australia

[@Velereonics]

Well, good thing that the navy is developing underwater drones, because we'll have an overabundance of those and they can maybe use them to I don't know, create currents or just pick up some of the stuff in the water and clean it up faster

[@Guadmengistu]

Greatt...content .pls make some video about dofen and fentale volcano in ethiopia

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

I remember the ionosphere from high school. I also remember getting a C- grade in that class which put an end to my dreams of being the next Einstein.

[@keletohiko4305]

We here in Tonga have not yet face any strong cyclone yet since 2022.

[@tristanmelling410]

Shook the house and rattled the windows in Auckland. I thought the navy was doing exercises in the harbour, but then my mate who lives 300km away asked if I’d heard the booming too. Then it became obvious it was something rare indeed

[@NancyRode-u9i]

🙋🏽‍♀️anton everyday

[@mattrolfs8951]

Very weird weather for 2 years in Southern Australia. Non Summers and vast frost killing vineyards. No mainstream warning or news.

[@rcane6842]

7:16 no other signs prior to this? I doubt anyone can do anything within that 15-minute period if I'm within the vicinity of such calamity 🤔

[@waylonbreaux2366]

David dubyne from Adapt2030 was the first to talk about this right after it happened

[@garretteckhart8079]

Thank you.

[@bigjake2061]

Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai. You can't come past the name like this and not have fun saying it. Hun ga Ton ga Hun ga Haʻ a pa i

[@larrywhittaker9901]

I guess the HEAT AND CONCUSSION killed all the LOCAL LIFE !!😮😢

[@johannageisel5390]

I thought it was the ash falling down and suffocating everything.

[@cynhanrahan4012]

Always interesting, but this contained so much new info! Thank you, Anton.

[@artor9175]

Even a colossal eruption like the Tonga event is a tiny blip compared to the effects of human industry on the climate.

[@beedoox5613]

But human industrialisation hasn't been going on for 4.6 billion years; volcanic eruptions, floods, meteorite impacts and anything else you care to imagine, has. I'll clue you in, that's 4,600,000,000 vs 250 give or take for industrialisation that had to ramp up to noticeable levels. I'll also counter by saying that the human population should never have been able to grow from around 770m to 8bn, because every one of those people requires Earth's resources. Cause and effect.

[@stargazer5784]

​@@beedoox5613So... What point are you trying to make? I would tend to agree with the original thought that typical volcanic eruptions, and even large ones like this, do represent only a blip, per se, when compared to the ongoing destruction of the environment that's being wrought by human industrialization.

[@beedoox5613]

@@stargazer5784 I don't disagree with the idea that this volcanic eruption could represent a mere blip but I have no way to measure that - and frankly, I don't care either. If the numbers are to be believed and today our collective emissions are in the region of 100x that of all the volcanic eruptions on Earth - then we should acknowledge it's not been consistently 100x for the entirety of the human industrialisation era, as we started with a fraction of the population and a tiny amount of industrialisation that would likely not even have registered. On the flip-side, 250 years of so-called industrialisation (if we yield to that time period) doesn't even register vs the age of the Earth, and the fact that it started as an inhospitable molten ball of rock, cooled, warmed cooled, warmed, had ice that covered most of the planet, had high oxygen levels, became saturated with CO2, had a well known medieval warm period, natural forest fires, dealt with continental shift (affecting climate), Earth's position in the solar system and galaxy, Solar cycles etc. etc. All without human industrialisation. The list of data-points is massive and endless! Now, do think it's shitty that we've cut down so much rain-forest? Yes, and I also think it's shitty that we've allowed the population to explode from 770m to 8bn in such a short amount of time. I also think it's shitty that the big polluters can't capture and store their soot and other pollutants - but the data scientist in me also refuses to believe that in less than 200 years, we've done more damage to the Earth (climate-wise) than it has suffered through all the natural events that have occurred during its 4.6bn years.

[@MrKago1]

It was so powerful it affected gps satellites, but it didn't really affect the weather. Now consider the Franklin LIP basalt flood eruption turned the whole planet into snowball earth.