Are Any Poncho Pikachu Boxes Not Resealed?!

[@Pokestoptcg]

Hey guys, just wanted to clarify that the people behind the table in the second video of the Rayquaza box had NOTHING to do with the resealed box. Saw tons of comments on my own video about them but the seller who opened the box for some reason decided he wanted to open it there.

[@jamesw9873]

I really dont get the logic of tracking a box back to it's original owner. The chain will always end with someone buying the box from a legitimate source. Any one person in the chain could've opened and resealed the box... I really dont get the logic that it must be the first person in the chain who's the guilty party

[@Faber0k]

The reason it's good to know the chain, is becauze usually each person takes pictures of their new grail that's acquired. Eventually the pictures are going to look different. Its just about having as much info as possible to be able to find out where the weak link is.

[@INHUMANENATION]

I think it's logical to begin at the beginning is all. Then you can follow the provenance up until you got it. I do fully appreciate your point but I also appreciate that these are typical hot takes off the cuff that don't exactly follow along a linear path of reason. Usually when asked though, people would take the time to better elaborate that they don't mean to imply the only weak spot would be the first person. Just that they were the person to introduce the product into the sealed market.

[@jeannedark94]

Because there were 2 resealed items together, so if they trace it back to who was the first person who bought both items, that's very likely the person who resealed them. Otherwise it would have to mean someone bought 2 resealed boxes from other, separate people then sold them again, together, which is unlikely

[@CoreyFromMinnesota]

It's literally a paper trail. It starts with one person noticing that there is something wrong with the product. Say you paid $1,000 for an advertised factory sealed box of cards. But you don't want to open it. You want to resell it locally or online to make a few dollars. Nothing wrong with that at all. That is actually one of the biggest reason this is an issue. So, let's go to the resell. I don't care if you are an eBay seller with 10k 5 star reviews, or this may be one of your first items you put up for sale. It doesn't matter. If you sell a fake it will come back to you in the chain of possession, and if you don't have any reason for why that box was fake and can't come up with who you purchased it from...it's going to be a bad look for you... and you're more than likely going to have to give the money back and ultimately be the one who swallows the loss. Then the flip side. This is more obvious and immediate, but I think it is a worthy point. Say you just spent $1,000 on a box you were planning on breaking open on a stream, with some friends, hell even by yourself. You start smelling glue, the wrap is too thick, the box pulls ways didn't give with the usual cripness. There's something wrong. Oops, you bought a tampered and resealed pack. This was described as a "factory sealed" box. Oh no what do I doooo? Oh. I have proof of who I purchased it from. I am going to put the process in place to correct this. I have proof of who I received the product from. Does this prove that they were the ones that tampered with the product? No, not at all. But now the ball is in their court, the heat is on them, and they should easily be able to provide the previous seller's info and that ball of heat is now in another court. And so on until things get pinpointed. Nobody wants to lose money on something they thought was out of their life weeks, months, or maybe years ago. They will dig deep to gather records and provide their source. So yeah it is pretty important. I mostly buy just online a lot nowadays. I live in the third biggest city in my state and we only have one actual TCG shop that is on it's last leg. Go figure. So, I have all of my receipts logged conveniently in my emails, and the few singles that I have picked up I have asked for separate receipts to conveniently slip into my toploaders outside the sleeve. Ask for separate receipts while purchasing singles of anything toploader worthy from a shop, really. Any shop worth walking into should be used to that request. Some people may not have an understanding of Pokemon, the hobby, or the investment. Regardless, fraud is fraud, and laws are laws. These scams cost honest people thousands of dollars and deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent and at least have the long arm of the law to slap them with misdemeanor or felony that they deserve. Keep your receipts, and keep collecting. Most importantly, keep it honest, and keep it fun. 👍

[@RobertLee-wi5kc]

@@Faber0k Really? I have bought cards.coins.stamps, papermoney and have never taken a photo. I would consider taking a photo if I were to send it through the mail to prove it was in fact mailed.

[@mikuz210]

It is so risky to buy such expensive sealed product for collection. Imagine keeping it for 5+ years and then finding out it is fake when selling/trading it, after the scammer is long gone.

[@David-ue7vv]

Only 5 years 😅

[@adamcogan211]

I think sealed stuff that’s this expensive needs to have be packaged inside a tamper proof case or seal or something that the person can sign by

[@Tungchu92]

Yeahhh...I don't ever want to deal with "Vintage" stuff anymore. It's insane that there are still unopened packs and boxes and people hoard and value them to INSANE amounts. Went to collect a con in houston and someone was selling an entire case of the Pokemon Legendary collection..for 450k. INSANE. Insane prices leads to so much resealing and scamming.

[@spamtonto]

Insane prices are the prices people are willing to pay. They're not totally arbitrary.

[@GrapesAuto]

Yeah especially “the Pokemon Network” and “Loose packs” worst fucking ppl i’ve seen in the tcg. Can’t stand them. eric khabbaz and kenli lin, Tyler miller, jack clark and “flockas” are the Ultimate Poke grifters

[@ArtFiendz]

Yea unfortunately where there is "value" there will be scammers

[@GrapesAuto]

Whoever deleted my comment can eat a turd, i’ll say it again, Kenli lin, Jack clark, Tyler miller, Loose packs co and flocka are the biggest pos and a big reason why vintage is getting harder and more expensive. Biggest vintage scalpers i’ve ever seen

[@ShmurkyDurky]

@@spamtontoAgreed. Also, classic unopened product just leads to a small populous of people being able to set the market.

[@Djsonley]

You can't tell with these unless it's X-rayed. Even then they can still replace items inside for lower condition versions. It's a mess and as a seller and collector scares me off these days. People want super premium prices and want you taking on all the risk. Avoid.

[@JustMeMiguell]

It’s sad to see stuff like this happen so often

[@skillzsquar3dgaming]

I kinda wish the worst for people that decide to reseal and scam people in this economy. Or run any collectible scam. It ruins it for us true collectors. Scalpers can get meshed in there as well.

[@Whoareyoucalling]

This has been an issue since skyridge. People caught on very quickly about resealing shit. It’s only gotten bad since gen 6/7, and now anything worth a a grand sealed has a very high likelihood of being faked or resealed or both. Your only odds at proven unsealed packs is pre 2000 graded base set first edition packs. Before 2000 people didn’t weigh packs. If you don’t want to gamble on the authenticity then don’t buy it.

[@lifestyle936]

Scalpers will do anything for a dollar or two.

[@M.arif-nl5ow6yy6d]

I mean there's a lot of pokemon & yugioh seller only selling the box to get their money back. Just imagine how many seller do this kind of stuff and the buyer is evil thinking they can resealed it and sell it online

[@Pokebattleleague]

That fact Pokemon doesn't have a special security seal with a serial number is nuts. Wouldn't be that hard for collectors to document what they buy and sell and have a online log book or something

[@zacharyrohrs2619]

@rattlepokemon Keep up the good work! I’ve been enjoying the content a lot lately. I’ve not been able to support the channel lately because of the shitstorm down here in America but I still rock the OG Black Rattle hat every day man. Keep on rocking!

[@Whoareyoucalling]

Sealed products are something you have to buy with caution. Even retail stores explicitly state TCG cards are a final sale item because of this very issue. It doesn’t matter who you bought the pack or box from, the fact of the matter is you cannot prove who exactly opening the box and resealed it, therefore your request for a refund is denied. If you don’t like it then don’t buy old sealed products it’s that simple. The way to minimize this going forward is to buy from the Pokémon center. Anyone who’s been selling in TCG space for more than a few years understands this, this is why old expensive vintage boxes rarely change hands because there is to much money on the line for the chances of it being opened and sorted.

[@VinnyDoesLife]

Sealed investor's will have such a hard time selling the hoards of product in the future just because of buyers being skeptical. Anytime an item hits $2k+ the buyer pool becomes a lot smaller and selling becomes a headache. All the sealed hoarders say *"I plan on holding for 5-10 years"...* lmao.

[@mech0p]

ep only way i would consider buying a vintage pack is in person and im opening it on the spot.

[@spamtonto]

You expect a massive paradigm shift away from sealed collecting? Sealed collecting is replacing binder collecting. You're going to be waiting for a generational shift.

[@GrapesAuto]

@@spamtontoSealed collecting is dead. Go buy a vintage pack and you’ll sit on it for months

[@GrapesAuto]

Vintage that is

[@HammerStudioGames]

​@@GrapesAuto your argument has no rationale. Just because something is illiquid doesn't mean it's dead.

[@ProfessorPokeDon]

Thank you for all your hard work and information 🙏

[@sholl_poke]

No, everything is resealed 😂☠️

[@andrewmosley2588]

There are companies who can CET scan whole packs and booster boxes nowadays. For about $400-$500 you can have a whole booster box scanned for the contents. Seems like a steep price but compared to the cost of some boxes its nothing.

[@SkinnyVinnie]

Tracing back means nothing someone could buy from multiple people and sell the, and have no idea which one came from which person. The people in chain can blame the wrong people trying to cover, it’s not that hard to do.

[@HIMITHY-HIM18]

I have a bunch a fakes I have 😩…. For 2 booster boxes 😭. It was crazy how they resealed them people need to do right… all that time doing right they would have full careers in life lol but they scam people…

[@mech0p]

more money involved in scamming as you get the original stuff to sell and then the box/pack your gaining 100% value on. Problem is your gonna screw the wrong person one day. Like id always buy this stuff in person so id know who im dealing with and if came to be fake im getting a refund ior were having a huge issue. me personally my reputation would be more important.

[@ja5435]

He was expecting a guy not to look at the seals

[@poke_hoard422]

Is the red and white box like a pokeball the limited edition pokemon watch from Seiko I wonder? I have the jade green Pikachu one and curious what he has it posted for

[@yujirohanma1025]

@Pokerev with all these scams going around. If you yourself wanted to buy a Vintage pack or an expensive box, what source would you use without any thoughts coming to mind that they may scam you?

[@CDBIII]

Why are you @Pokerev…? This isn’t Twitter/X, lol.

[@jDDignity]

This surely was lighter cause nearly nothing was inside

[@Derekd77111]

8:38 I'm scared too Rattle! The tension is real...😬

[@AccesAce]

This is why I don’t buy vintage or rare collection pokemon boxes because it could be fake and the seller probably bought it and kept it sealed not knowing it’s fake

[@Chimeratech8]

Too many scammers out there. Even if I had the money, I wouldn't feel comfortable making these types of deals because it's so easy to get burned. At least this guy opened the boxes at the show and was able to get his money back. The worst part of this video is that the resealer could have been the guy in the video, or it could be any number of people who had the box before him. Even if you play detective and find the culprit, what are you going to do? Call the cops? Spam them on Instagram? Not a high chance you'll be able to do anything about it.

[@mech0p]

i wish they would do an english print of these. Also this is why i hate the sealed market and think its so dumb. I wish we would move past it as thats how 99% of scams happen in this community. Like i get sealed vintage packs being a thing but this stuff is dumb.

[@HammerStudioGames]

Complaints like this are just so childish. What is the alternative that you can suggest?

[@JT-sp4io]

i have a evolving skies booster that i purchased last year and moving the bottom plastic tore a little but do you think that will hurt future selling like people will think its tampered?

[@DankDaHerbalist]

If you know it’s not tampered just stand on business

[@Faber0k]

​@DankDaHerbalist i have a paldea evolved booster box with the smallest piece of plastic missing. (My kid grabbed it as I took it out of the package lol) it is fine though. Slight damage is usually exactly what you want to see when buying stuff like that. Pristine just doesn't exist for that stuff.

[@spamtonto]

​@@Faber0kPristine Paldea Evolved exists in significant numbers. People absolutely do not "like" to see box damage when buying expensive collectible boosters. You will always have to take less than market for this.

[@spamtonto]

They won't necessarily think it's tampered with. It's just damaged.

[@GrapesAuto]

@@spamtontoMlady pfp is goated

[@maxim9461]

Definitely high suspicion on the seller… that’s 2 box from him now… who knows how many others that people didn’t notice because they’re sitting in storage? It doesn’t matter if the boxes were re-sealed differently , he may just be using what ever plastic he had available for the job , and using different products to put inside (as long as they match the weight) Definitely keep an eye on that person

[@atvman12]

The seller opened the 2nd box of his own volition because he found out his first one was fake. He wasnt trying to sell it. So no, hes not under any suspicion. He even got a refund. You should really pay more attention

[@INHUMANENATION]

Can these boxes be graded for authentication? I appreciate that could be expensive with shipping costs perhaps but this us a community that grades $2 cards.

[@brenttirwin6737]

Why doesn’t Pokemon use a special seal? U would think they could do something by now to prevent resealing

[@TheBlackyoshi5000]

nice shirt!

[@amp2425]

Goated pullz got scared 4500 on one of these boxes last month ...

[@ShmurkyDurky]

Where’d you get the hoodie?

[@decoratings5198]

unc wearing the hooks up hoodie🔥 didn’t know you were a vintage head as well💯💯

[@larryleqend]

Pokemon needs security seals/tape on their boxed products.

[@rafaelroman8837]

This is why I never buy stuff like that because if I find out it’s fake I’m going to jail

[@KostikSaint]

What a cool guy lmao!

[@ja5435]

The kids said that he never took the bubble wrap off, unless I’m mistaken

[@tallywhacker1]

Rich people ruined card collecting.

[@deliwtz]

Name one thing rich people *haven’t* ruined.

[@CDBIII]

Top true. Especially once the sports collectors (you know, the useless non game pieces) came in, it was over. It’s all a money laundering front now, akin to paintings. As long as NFTs don’t make it mainstream though, I’ll be thankful. “1/1” digital items just fails on its foundation logically, lmfao.

[@ShmurkyDurky]

What you want them to do just not enter any hobbies/collectibles lmao

[@Mjmtcg656]

I saw when this happen this happen I wanna say a few months back

[@GGFonz303]

Will is an incredible guy, and he's a Whatnot seller Rattle ;) lol

[@Fang_Face]

First of all I don’t care what you do with it, I want so much $, buy it and burn it for all I care, lol. Secondly, I have one that I bought from a reputable dealer, so I hope it’s legit.

[@shakascloset1700]

That dude resealed it.

[@NinjaStroll]

Sealed collecting/investing is such a dumb and greedy idea. You must know where theres a lot of money involved, scummy things are gonna take place

[@3_x_plus_1]

From now on I’m going to reseal everything but put bangas in so people make bank…

[@messaih217]

This is why CT scanning is going to become more prevalent and the price of vintage product will drop massively

[@CoreyFromMinnesota]

The whole Schrodinger's cat paradox applies way too hard to all resold sealed products in my eyes. I don't trust it, and I dont want it.

[@Mirsa09]

you already showed this video or is this an other sell of this box ?

[@TheMagista88]

Outter wrap should be ELASTIC not crinkley.

[@_BELMONT_]

the psychological warfare this wages on one's mind. imagine keeping this and taking pride in this piece only to find it was fake all along. absolute mental terror.

[@laurencechien]

That looks too fresh you can tell it’s reseller no wrinkles

[@drew8235]

RIP anyone who has invested heavily in any of this stuff, thinking that it's going to be easy to sell in the future.

[@BillieandRubixPokemon]

Hes back!

[@EllaFallecio]

People need to realize Pokémon is getting real lucrative as of lately. More than ever before. Just like there are people who actually have a passion for Pokémon. There’s also those who have a passion to scam and steal from the pokemon community. Be very vigilant about what you buy and who you buy from. It’s only gonna get worse.

[@cookiemang4128]

Always open these I'm the vendors presence that way if it's resealed you get your money back

[@timehathtcg]

can... anyone help what app is it that they are referring to?

[@himynameisnotmark1]

nice hoodie

[@glocohernandez3386]

That was the same kid right

[@edvt2316]

It’s not illegal if you don’t get caught 😂🎉

[@ja5435]

Is it possession 9/10 of the law?

[@ADHD_Dolan]

Hell naw. Vendors are too nice. If that was me we would’ve reversed that. And if he knew he was going to open it he could’ve made dude guarantee the contents or the deal is off.

[@LeftKing]

Buy them off me, I bought mine from the Pokemon Center in Japan 🤭 !! Just kidding !! They're Not For Sale 😜

[@akawumpus]

Isn’t this video hella old?

[@Zaee718]

Yea Rattle had no content to release today

[@beexiong2171]

i'm not in to these stuffs but how much is really for a box Pikachu Poncho? any one can reply tell me please thanks. p.s. i don't collect any kinds of cards at all but i think its cool i know cards can cost a lot when psa graded lol.

[@fidelramirez7256]

Dude could’ve walked away with a graded as card with money and his big ass mouth/ego betrayed him re saying to open it🤣🤡

[@laurencechien]

I would not buy these for 500 bucks

[@danzdribble]

↪↪hello, thanks for sharing the video. anyways, do you need a graphic artist to work on your YT logo and banner? update and redesign logo? for a cheap price...

[@dissraps]

Lol from you? Your logo is shit looks like a 12 year old with mspaint

[@CDBIII]

He literally just had it redone a few months back, lmao.

[@danzdribble]

Let me show you my idea for your logo and banner. Thanks

[@scottgeene1770]

This new generation is really killing the Hobby..

[@NickHuber]

Is this guy out of the money for the bad box?

[@FelixgreenYT]

This video is old as hell now.

[@hundredhandedbandit]

dealer is annoying

[@gatspilla2916]

Dude in beige sounds like a scammer lol

[@custum18]

Everything about this feels skeezy on both sides. Too much risk for the money whether its real or not. It seems like its rarely real anymore. Cant trust anyone.

[@mephisto40]

The guys mannerisms and prices seem all kind of off as well, i wouldnt buy anything off him

[@nkbd1048]

hes definitely scamming haha hes just hoping they don't open it, theres already 3 videos of him selling fake poncho boxes

[@nirvanna305]

ok. give back the 2 slabs then and you take back your fake resealed box and bye bye

[@swpo1]

Did the scammer give the guy his graded cards back? I didn't see him give them back.

[@Dylan-kz1ps]

New meta is gonna be authenticated and notarized CT scans of sealed product lol

[@CrispyEggrollTCG]

Honestly ppl should show there face, we as collector need to know who this person is so we can stay away from them

[@ambassador724]

First

[@aaronscott2278]

We are all very proud of you

[@ambassador724]

@@aaronscott2278 mad Aaron is MAD!

[@dissraps]

​@@ambassador724imagine waking up and deciding to be cringe

[@PaulC07A]

I understand the clickbait title game but Pokestop has a video of him opening and buying a legit poncho box.

[@nah4215]

It’s not a clickbait title, he’s asking a question

[@maxim9461]

What part was clickbait?

[@DOPECARDS]

Old news

[@1life889]

Fuk me u do go on

[@Keepone11]

Did he just get a refund from who he bought it on the spot?

[@BroncosSUCK1980]

tracing doesnt make any sense just pay with a cc